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Truthster013
25th August 2016, 14:03
So I am in my 40's and my entire life I have "heard" things of a paranormal nature and occasionally see things too. For example, I have heard whispering that I can't quite make out, I have heard living people's voices I know talking as if from the other side of a wall so it's muffled and I can't make it out but I recognize the voice, I've heard my dog growl or scratch around in his dog crate when he's sleeping on the floor at my feet etc. In nearly every case they are sounds that are naturally occurring for that area but they occur as unnatural times. I've kind of coined a term for it too of "mimics" because whatever it is it seems to mimic sounds it has heard before. The strange thing is, it happens in different locations (i.e. not just my house and not just indoors) and others who are with me hear it too. I have had numerous friends or family members who only hear odd things when they are with me. I can see their reaction and know they heard it too so I'll "test" them and myself by asking, "did you hear that?" and if they say yes I'll ask, "What did you hear?" They will tell me something like "I heard your dog change positions in his dog crate". Then I will point out to them that the dog is not in his crate and you can see the look of fear creep into their face. For me, I no longer fear these noises and in fact I tell my friends to stop being afraid because whatever it is has never hurt anyone. I feel fear is a really bad way to respond to it for some reason, BUT....

For the life of me I can't see how any of these experiences are beneficial to me. I have numerous times tried to "make contact" in some way with an intelligence that I think could be making the sounds but every time I try to make contact it just goes away for long periods. It is as if my actively trying to contact it makes it go away. The events are so far between that they offer no benefit to me (once or twice every few months or every day for a few days then nothing for months). What is the use of hearing a strange sound every few months? What benefit is it to me? So far, none.

I'd like to understand what is happening and I dabble in different things now trying to understand (meditation, dream analysis, tarot, etc, etc) and nothing seems to open my mind to a deeper understanding. I am hoping someone who reads this might know a great book, video, or resource that can maybe take my understanding to the next level so I can actually BENEFIT in some way from these experiences and understand my world a little better. I have read and studied a lot of THEORIES about what is out there but none of that helps me make contact. How do I actually make contact either with a spiritual type being or my own higher conciousness whatever it is? Theory is great, but how is it beneficial to me? I'm not really learning anything other than to find possible explanations for what it MIGHT be.

shadowstalker
25th August 2016, 15:53
Keep experimenting with YOUR PERSONAL WORK and things will come to you. the benefits should be awesome in the end.
Theories are for folks who don't have the answers just yet, you will find YOUR OWN KNOWINGS soon enough.
Experiment with what suits YOU.
Write them down if you wish, this helps in keeping track of YOUR PERSONAL progress.
Always listen to YOUR INNER SOUL first before anything else.
There are tons of vids and books on the subject.

Just use key works for your search.
Spirituality
Spiritual Growth
Meditation
Remote Viewing.
3rd eye opening.

And the like.

amor
25th August 2016, 16:00
Dear Shadowstalker: How is your mother doing? Hope all is well.

amor
25th August 2016, 16:06
Dear Truthster013: We are all frequencies or combinations of same in the zero field. Our brainwaves can sometimes be heard or received by others, whether animal or human, deceased or demonic. Personally, I pick up pictures of faces and personalities but realize that making contact, which you may not be able to break, with unknown quantities or mentalities can range all the way from being personally unpleasant and invasive to demonic attack; therefore, I protect myself by withdrawing my attention from the person viewed quickly.

Sueanne47
25th August 2016, 17:28
Hi Truthster013 :welcome:

If there is a person in spirit in your home trying to make contact, they do it by subtle signs such as light bulbs going on, pictures on the walls being nudged, floors creaking, doors opening, objects moving, or coming to you in dreams. Was there someone you know has just passed away that you were close to? generally there has to be a bond of love between the person still alive and the person passed on for their energy to come through. My mum had her lamp in the living room come on the same time every night at 01.00, it was Dad doing it (as he had just passed over) and someone told her "tell Les to stop turning the light on..as its giving you the creeps!" well she did that....and it stopped. :) hopefully you can say the same ~ and see what happens!

shadowstalker
25th August 2016, 17:34
Dear Shadowstalker: How is your mother doing? Hope all is well.

doing well, nothing slows that girl down, thank goodness.

Truthster013
25th August 2016, 17:50
Thanks, my "fear" is that I've been hearing this for so long and making no progress that I'm afraid there isn't really anything else to it. i am looking for something more to give me hope that there is more than just "bumps in the night" (which by the way it doesn't always happen at night).

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Dear Truthster013: We are all frequencies or combinations of same in the zero field. Our brainwaves can sometimes be heard or received by others, whether animal or human, deceased or demonic. Personally, I pick up pictures of faces and personalities but realize that making contact, which you may not be able to break, with unknown quantities or mentalities can range all the way from being personally unpleasant and invasive to demonic attack; therefore, I protect myself by withdrawing my attention from the person viewed quickly.

I appreciate the advice. For me, I feel like withdrawing is a reason why we wouldn't see more. Our minds want to reject what we see so we tend to make up excuses and things our conscious mind can accept. I feel like if I'm to make progress I got to stop withdrawing and embrace it or open up to it. Those with religious viewpoints usually shy away from "opening up" to anything as opening up to demonic. I tend not to think that's what this is.

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Hi Truthster013 :welcome:

If there is a person in spirit in your home trying to make contact, they do it by subtle signs such as light bulbs going on, pictures on the walls being nudged, floors creaking, doors opening, objects moving, or coming to you in dreams. Was there someone you know has just passed away that you were close to? generally there has to be a bond of love between the person still alive and the person passed on for their energy to come through. My mum had her lamp in the living room come on the same time every night at 01.00, it was Dad doing it (as he had just passed over) and someone told her "tell Les to stop turning the light on..as its giving you the creeps!" well she did that....and it stopped. :) hopefully you can say the same ~ and see what happens!

Thanks. A lot of what you mention has happened too. I have seen flashes of light in my room just instantly there and gone that look like a ball of light. I have seen light bulbs suddenly burst bright light and go out when discussing things, etc. HOWEVER, this has been over many, many years and no deceased person fits the bill. While my father passed away 7 years ago or so, these events were happening before that too so i'm not finding the common link/thread yet.

petra
25th August 2016, 18:08
I have some similar things going on, and so far I have not benefited either, unless getting more suspicious is beneficial!

I get the impression that these "sounds that make no sense" could be what people refer to as "glitches in the matrix", because really if something is trying to communicate, you'd think the sound would at least have some meaning to you. I know it sounds kind of weird to think of the world as being glitchy, but in my case some of it is such nonsense the only conclusion I can feel safe making is that something is amiss.

Truthster013
25th August 2016, 18:31
I have some similar things going on, and so far I have not benefited either, unless getting more suspicious is beneficial!

I get the impression that these "sounds that make no sense" could be what people refer to as "glitches in the matrix", because really if something is trying to communicate, you'd think the sound would at least have some meaning to you. I know it sounds kind of weird to think of the world as being glitchy, but in my case some of it is such nonsense the only conclusion I can feel safe making is that something is amiss.

Actually a writer I once read a bit from who wrote Modern Magick referred to this sort of thing as "astral junk" and said he didn't know what it was but it doesn't harm you. He basically made it sound like it was images and sound floating around in the astral plane or something that sometimes glitch though (I'm putting my spin on what he said).

Almost always when I hear and see things it is out of the corner of the eye or when I'm doing something distracting my mind like watching television. When I stop everything to "listen and pay attention" nothing happens. To me that's a lot like the pre-dream state right where you are between being conscious and unconcious. Maybe this is a time things can bleed through?

I did have one dream (and I'm not big into dreams) which was very bizaare and felt spiritual. In my dream I was being taught by a being "secrets" of the universe. The voice had me contemplate a city by the ocean and watching the waves crash in on the shore. There were barriers put up to make the waves dissappate as it came toward the city so the city wasn't washed away in a tital wave. The voice told me "that is how magic works". Since then I have been reading about energy as waves and such and learning lots of interesting stuff but that is the only thing I felt I really "learned" from spiritual stuff and I'm not even convinced that was a real spirit guide or anything. Who knows? I'm trying to keep my mind open and want to learn things though.

Juschi
26th August 2016, 18:37
Hi,

I have heard vibrations lately. There is never complete silence in my head, and when I go to sleep, there are like different sounds in my ears, like ringings. I have had checked my audition, everything is fine. I have had these sounds since I can remember, as a child even. What I noticed is that I hear like a "hum" when somebody is angry close to me. Sometimes this very low vibration is so disturbing that I get a tooth ache and pain in my ear, always on the left side.

Is there a use to it? Well, everyone has to find that out on its own, as Shadowstalker has pointed out well. I have grown more empathic with people, and have even noticed that animals come closer. These are small steps in your personal awareness growth, you are awakening.

Truthster013
26th August 2016, 19:12
Hi,

I have heard vibrations lately. There is never complete silence in my head, and when I go to sleep, there are like different sounds in my ears, like ringings. I have had checked my audition, everything is fine. I have had these sounds since I can remember, as a child even. What I noticed is that I hear like a "hum" when somebody is angry close to me. Sometimes this very low vibration is so disturbing that I get a tooth ache and pain in my ear, always on the left side.

Is there a use to it? Well, everyone has to find that out on its own, as Shadowstalker has pointed out well. I have grown more empathic with people, and have even noticed that animals come closer. These are small steps in your personal awareness growth, you are awakening.

Thanks Juschi. My problem is that I feel all of my experiences have not really awakened me to much of anything other than the fact that things happen that I don't understand. I came to that realization long ago and my life hasn't improved knowing that things happen that I can't explain. I think part of me always hoped that maybe I was more tuned into the right frequency so to speak and that eventually someone or something would contact me and we'd have a nice long conversation and I'd have a profound change in my life and understanding. Instead all I get is more "yeah, things happen you can't explain" and that's it. I can't see any future value unless someone can explain steps I can take to increase it, communicate with it, or have some sort of intelligent conversation with it.

greybeard
26th August 2016, 19:32
So I am in my 40's and my entire life I have "heard" things of a paranormal nature and occasionally see things too. For example, I have heard whispering that I can't quite make out, I have heard living people's voices I know talking as if from the other side of a wall so it's muffled and I can't make it out but I recognize the voice, I've heard my dog growl or scratch around in his dog crate when he's sleeping on the floor at my feet etc. In nearly every case they are sounds that are naturally occurring for that area but they occur as unnatural times. I've kind of coined a term for it too of "mimics" because whatever it is it seems to mimic sounds it has heard before. The strange thing is, it happens in different locations (i.e. not just my house and not just indoors) and others who are with me hear it too. I have had numerous friends or family members who only hear odd things when they are with me. I can see their reaction and know they heard it too so I'll "test" them and myself by asking, "did you hear that?" and if they say yes I'll ask, "What did you hear?" They will tell me something like "I heard your dog change positions in his dog crate". Then I will point out to them that the dog is not in his crate and you can see the look of fear creep into their face. For me, I no longer fear these noises and in fact I tell my friends to stop being afraid because whatever it is has never hurt anyone. I feel fear is a really bad way to respond to it for some reason, BUT....

For the life of me I can't see how any of these experiences are beneficial to me. I have numerous times tried to "make contact" in some way with an intelligence that I think could be making the sounds but every time I try to make contact it just goes away for long periods. It is as if my actively trying to contact it makes it go away. The events are so far between that they offer no benefit to me (once or twice every few months or every day for a few days then nothing for months). What is the use of hearing a strange sound every few months? What benefit is it to me? So far, none.

I'd like to understand what is happening and I dabble in different things now trying to understand (meditation, dream analysis, tarot, etc, etc) and nothing seems to open my mind to a deeper understanding. I am hoping someone who reads this might know a great book, video, or resource that can maybe take my understanding to the next level so I can actually BENEFIT in some way from these experiences and understand my world a little better. I have read and studied a lot of THEORIES about what is out there but none of that helps me make contact. How do I actually make contact either with a spiritual type being or my own higher conciousness whatever it is? Theory is great, but how is it beneficial to me? I'm not really learning anything other than to find possible explanations for what it MIGHT be.

If you can let go of the need to know.
From a spiritual point of view experiences are just phenomena of no consequence they come they go.
Find out who is observing these --that is the standard advice of Enlightened Mystics.
What you are is eternal.
Who -what were you before birth?
The standard question sujested by Ramana Maharshi one of the most respected sages was "Who am /"

Virtually everyone who gets interested in spirituality will experience similar to what you have mentioned---there is no meaning to it--it just is.

Best wishes
Chris
Ps
Added link to a video about him which you might find to be a pointer.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1093110&viewfull=1#post1093110

Truthster013
26th August 2016, 19:43
If you can let go of the need to know.
From a spiritual point of view experiences are just phenomena of no consequence they come they go.
Find out who is observing these --that is the standard advice of Enlightened Mystics.
What you are is eternal.
Who -what were you before birth?
The standard question sujested by Ramana Maharshi one of the most respected sages was "Who am /"

Virtually everyone who gets interested in spirituality will experience similar to what you have mentioned---there is no meaning to it--it just is.

Best wishes
Chris
Ps
Added link to a video about him which you might find to be a pointer.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1093110&viewfull=1#post1093110

Thanks for the advice and video. I'll try and work that in this weekend and watch. On a fundamental level I know my analytical conscious mind is getting in the way of just "letting go". Having said that, I used to be "Christian" and always hated the logic "you just have to take it on faith". Spiritualism all seems to be the same. In the end nothing can be proved and you just have to decide for yourself what you want to believe and have faith in it. I'm rambling....

greybeard
26th August 2016, 20:24
Your not rambling Truthster013
Been there--- Spirituality and spiritualism are two entirely different things.
Enlightenment is the removal of ignorance--(lack of knowledge)
Spirituality as in the path to enlightenment has nothing to do with any religion.
Its soul purpose is to discover ones true identity beyond persona whichis ever changing---the Self does not change---that is provable by your self with just a little investigation.
Think of your awareness--you cant switch it on or off it is always there---it is not changed by anything that happens--its constant.
Awareness is what you are.

This might be easier for you than the other link its a short guided meditation
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3CrZ7g3dyc

raff
26th August 2016, 21:28
It would seem that if your hearing things that are non physical then that door of your mind is opening. Don't be agitated that you don't know the answers now but be patient. This is a learning curve for you and it takes a lifetime of awakening and training to deal with this other world stuff. The one meditation you could begin with is stilling your mind. Once you get there you can listen (with some questions) the answers that you are looking for. It takes time but knowledge on its own is not enough. What comes with an opening awareness of the other side is the good stuff as well as the downright f#cking scary stuff. Once that door opens any one on the other side can see that you are open so the dangers are real. Those spirit guides obviously know this so no doubt are taking you on a gentle path according to the strength of your psyche.

Those doors of perception are not just for idle knowledge but with this awakening perception comes responsibility and service. How compassionate, how understanding are you of the nature of the souls journey and the foibles of the human appetite, it's perversions, propensity for its self destructiveness and yet still serve with a sincere, honest and compassionate heart (I say this because once you realise the source of these drives, these manipulations the enormity of this esoteric knowledge is both discomforting and extremely challenging)

The old adage from temple training that "many are willing but few are chosen" isn't what it means at face value. Rather that many once they realise the enormity of the journey and the trials it takes to conquer the self are not disposed to undertake the hardships and renounce the pleasures this training of the deeper senses requires.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss and forgetting about paranormal or psychic happenings is the best way to live a happy, peaceful life.

Sorry for the strictness of this message but experience can sometimes be a really awful bitch.

Truthster013
26th August 2016, 21:47
Thanks to everyone who is taking the time to offer words of encouragement. It's refreshingly different the type of people I find here as opposed to other sites I've visited. I do believe I'm keeping an open mind and I'm trying to just let things happen in their own time. It's just as I get older I am dealing with how short our physical lives are and unfortunately I don't take a lot of comfort in the notion that I might learn more in a future life or something. It seems if your conscious memory of yourself ends with your physical existence then essentially you "died". It doesn't really matter if we continue on in a spiritual form much if we have no memory of that does it? I know I'm kind of going off base here but again, my hope and dream was to learn something in THIS life that isn't just a guess. I'd like to actually KNOW something not just "feel" like it might be this or that. Again, thanks to everyone providing tips and suggestions.

raff
26th August 2016, 22:53
The remembering of who we are, where we've been and what we've done can be fun and interesting but is essentially irrelevant (not to mention distracting and tearing you away from what you essentially came here to do) The only thing that you will care about after you have "passed over" is whether you lived a good life. Did you choose love and kindness especially when it was dark, horrible and nasty. Did i follow my heart, that same heart that is at the centre of all creation. Did I honour that most blessed and loving sacred spirit in my daily life. Did I strive to awaken/remember that heaven in myself and plant those same seeds into this beautiful, nurturing, life giving earth. Did I honour my ancestors spirit by being an honest, upright and righteous human being (not necessarily in a religious sense) even when it was uncomfortable to do so.
Did I bring happiness to others and appreciated all that was given in whatever form that was experienced. Did I live a virtuous life. Did I follow and live the loving law of the One.

There is nothing that needs to be known other than this. You won't find it in a book, you won't find it in a video. You won't find it in a foreign religion on the other side of the world. Only will you find it in the last place that you can ever imagine.

amor
27th August 2016, 01:33
On the subject of "the other side of life which we cannot see," last night deep into a long read on Avalon re a UFO engineer, his wife was mysteriously about to die and the U.S. Govt. sent for a high military man who was also a Jesuit Priest to administer the last rights to his wife. As he was reading the last part, he suddenly stopped and ordered THE DEMON to come out of her. It immediately did and she got up as whole as ever and served them all tea. I have viewed the Catholic Church with suspicion and given them a wide berth, but I must say that they do have some special knowledge used by their psychic priests. Evil spirits are felt psychically.

My beloved cat Tiger recently disappeared. I have prayed to know what happened to him and asked God to help him whether alive or dead. I was sent this dream from Tiger. He showed that something with a large Beak bit his tail. I took this to mean a predator bird from the sky got him. From God, I was shown that he was now Golden and sitting at peace like the sphinx. Recently, in the dark, something sprang off of my bed and landed on the floor with a thump. I turned on the light. There was nothing there. On another night, I heard something scraping at the window screen (the window was closed and vertical blinds were on the other side of the screen so nothing physical could have got to the screen; Tiger used to stand on the table and claw at the screen.) Years ago when my pet cat died, it came to me in a dream, stood on my chest and looked down into my eyes. He let me know he was all right. Hope this helps someone.

greybeard
27th August 2016, 09:47
The remembering of who we are, where we've been and what we've done can be fun and interesting but is essentially irrelevant (not to mention distracting and tearing you away from what you essentially came here to do) The only thing that you will care about after you have "passed over" is whether you lived a good life. Did you choose love and kindness especially when it was dark, horrible and nasty. Did i follow my heart, that same heart that is at the centre of all creation. Did I honour that most blessed and loving sacred spirit in my daily life. Did I strive to awaken/remember that heaven in myself and plant those same seeds into this beautiful, nurturing, life giving earth. Did I honour my ancestors spirit by being an honest, upright and righteous human being (not necessarily in a religious sense) even when it was uncomfortable to do so.
Did I bring happiness to others and appreciated all that was given in whatever form that was experienced. Did I live a virtuous life. Did I follow and live the loving law of the One.

There is nothing that needs to be known other than this. You won't find it in a book, you won't find it in a video. You won't find it in a foreign religion on the other side of the world. Only will you find it in the last place that you can ever imagine.

Yes raff thats basically what Ramana Maharshi taught --Eckhart Tolle and others who discovered their True nature (The One Self) are active in the world helping others--that is their purpose in being here. They make a huge difference to the quality of life for many.
Phenomena are seen as distractions they are temporary--Self is permanent and limitless and found within.


Best wishes
Chris

jimrich
28th August 2016, 19:31
I too have had and continue to have some esoteric experiences especially since my late wife crossed over a few months ago.

BUT....For the life of me I can't see how any of these experiences are beneficial to me. ..... What is the use of hearing a strange sound every few months? What benefit is it to me? So far, none.
I'd like to understand what is happening and I dabble in different things now trying to understand (meditation, dream analysis, tarot, etc, etc) and nothing seems to open my mind to a deeper understanding. I am hoping someone who reads this might know a great book, video, or resource that can maybe take my understanding to the next level so I can actually BENEFIT in some way from these experiences and understand my world a little better. I have read and studied a lot of THEORIES about what is out there but none of that helps me make contact. How do I actually make contact either with a spiritual type being or my own higher conciousness whatever it is? How do I actually make contact either with a spiritual type being
I will mention two things that have done me some good.
1st, I have visited a few psychics before and after my late (psychic) wife transitioned and am completely happy to personally know that we don't die - we just move into another and way better dimension very near our physical one. So, having the knowledge that my late wife is not only still alive and well and able to come visit me anytime is quite comforting.

...or my own higher conciousness whatever it is?
I studied Indian/Eastern teachings and Advaita and arrived at the question: Who/What am I? This has led to the realization that I am not a little, isolated, frightened and lonely person in a very scary world. This has taken away a lot of my fears and concerns such as the ones you mentioned above because I am not the little, helpless victim of "noises, visitations, spirits, ghosts, aberrations, mysterious effects, etc." but I am something quite different and way better than a vulnerable little egoic person.
This may seem strange to someone who believes they are just a little person and that's all so I am offering a link to a video which might help you see and understand exactly who/what you are and then get some relief from these troubling things plus come to know exactly who and what this "higher consciousness/awareness" really is. Good luck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVdsVwiRTvI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxgl4NONbaY
While there are many other Advaitic teachers who can address the issue of who/what are we, this man may be the best of them, IMO. Once you get started looking into "who" is bothered, afraid, worried, angry, sad, mystified and other personal dramas, you might discover that "who" you really are can NEVER BE bothered by troubling stuff such as: strange noises, weird sights, bad dreams, bizarre feelings, etc. I wish you well, jim :sun:

greybeard
28th August 2016, 19:44
Well said Jimrich, could not have put it better--Welcome to Avalon
I have put the video your recommended below for easy access.

Best wishes
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVdsVwiRTvI

jimrich
28th August 2016, 19:49
It seems if your conscious memory of yourself ends with your physical existence then essentially you "died". It doesn't really matter if we continue on in a spiritual form much if we have no memory of that does it?
Those that I personally know, such as my late wife, who are "over there" (the afterlife) are just as aware, conscious and have retained all their knowledge and memories plus a lot of stuff that they did not or could not have had while over "here" so, they did not "die" nor loose anything other than their very run down or seriously damaged bodies. That is what I now know but could not "prove" to anyone. IMO, visiting a good psychic/medium could "prove" it to someone who is open to what is revealed.


I know I'm kind of going off base here but again, my hope and dream was to learn something in THIS life that isn't just a guess. I'd like to actually KNOW something not just "feel" like it might be this or that. Again, thanks to everyone providing tips and suggestions.
I'd go with those "who/what am I?" teachings and processes to find the answers and Reality. good luck, jim:bigsmile:

Rich
28th August 2016, 21:15
It doesn't really matter if we continue on in a spiritual form much if we have no memory of that does it?
What will we need the memory for?


I know I'm kind of going off base here but again, my hope and dream was to learn something in THIS life that isn't just a guess. I'd like to actually KNOW something not just "feel" like it might be this or that.
Yes this is really important just trust that what you will for will be given,
in fact it has already been given but we have to accept it, for most of us this is a process
because it would be too scary to get shaken out of the dream so suddenly I guess.

mojo
28th August 2016, 21:34
Some people might be gifted to have ESP and your hearing might be in that category. OP might consider using a recording device for collecting evidence like EVPs which can also be a way of validating.

petra
29th August 2016, 15:32
The voice told me "that is how magic works". Since then I have been reading about energy as waves and such and learning lots of interesting stuff but that is the only thing I felt I really "learned" from spiritual stuff and I'm not even convinced that was a real spirit guide or anything. Who knows? I'm trying to keep my mind open and want to learn things though.

That sounds like a nice dream to me!

The statement above would make me dubious though, because to me "magic" is just a word for that which we cannot understand. So loosely translated, this would mean "this is how stuff that makes no sense works". When you think if it that way it becomes a bit of an oxymoron, because how can you explain how nonsense works!

I'm not saying I don't believe in things of that sort - there's plenty going on we don't understand - I just don't like the word "magic", especially when it's being used for teaching.

Imagine for a moment if you were to realize you had such a power to set up barriers like was demonstrated to you in your dream. Do you think you'd be happy about that, or suspicious?

In my case, I'm just suspicious of everything. I like to joke that my will is more of a "will not" :)

Truthster013
29th August 2016, 18:43
Its soul purpose is to discover ones true identity beyond persona whichis ever changing---the Self does not change---that is provable by your self with just a little investigation.
Think of your awareness--you cant switch it on or off it is always there---it is not changed by anything that happens--its constant.
Awareness is what you are.

Thanks for the video suggestion. I watched it and found the guys voice very commanding. I enjoyed the meditation and thought I had an epiphany for a moment. Although he was NOT talking about this type of 'noise' or sound specifically there was a point where he said something like the noise is not for you. It is just noise. Be aware of it. Observe it. For a moment I thought what if that's it? I hear all these noises my whole life from time to time but maybe nothing is trying to communicate with me. Maybe it's just noise and maybe I'm just aware of it. It isn't FOR me. It's just noise. And I admit, I have pondered this before. What if the noises I hear are just echoes or something. Like maybe sounds are always bouncing around in the universe and maybe sometimes we hear them like an echo. That would explain why I think they are "mimics" because I hear sounds that are "natural" for the area. Maybe it's just like an echo off of a valley wall. It was a sound made before and just echoing and I'm picking up on it from time to time. It would certainly explain why any attempts to communicate with it have failed. You can't communicate with an echo. There is no intelligence behind an echo. But then.....

My problem with accepting this as an answer is that others with me hear it too. If MY consciousness is raised and I'm hearing things others normally do not hear that's one thing. But when I hear things and others hear it too, how do I explain that? These people with me often ONLY have these experiences when they have been with me. I have several friends who tell stories about this type of thing and the only stories they can relate are when they were with me. So, if THEIR consciousness is raised so that they hear it, why is it still not raised when they are away from me?

Lastly, PLEASE understand that I'm not trying to assert I'm "special". I'm perfectly ok with the idea that nothing is trying to communicate with me and I'm just perceiving things others sometimes dont perceive. But again, why is it that people with me hear the same things? Why also do they not hear them when they are not with me?

Truthster013
29th August 2016, 18:51
Some people might be gifted to have ESP and your hearing might be in that category. OP might consider using a recording device for collecting evidence like EVPs which can also be a way of validating.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried that actually and have very limited results. Nothing definitive for sure. Different rooms of the house, outdoor environments, etc.

Truthster013
29th August 2016, 19:13
The voice told me "that is how magic works". Since then I have been reading about energy as waves and such and learning lots of interesting stuff but that is the only thing I felt I really "learned" from spiritual stuff and I'm not even convinced that was a real spirit guide or anything. Who knows? I'm trying to keep my mind open and want to learn things though.

That sounds like a nice dream to me!

The statement above would make me dubious though, because to me "magic" is just a word for that which we cannot understand. So loosely translated, this would mean "this is how stuff that makes no sense works". When you think if it that way it becomes a bit of an oxymoron, because how can you explain how nonsense works!

I'm not saying I don't believe in things of that sort - there's plenty going on we don't understand - I just don't like the word "magic", especially when it's being used for teaching.

Imagine for a moment if you were to realize you had such a power to set up barriers like was demonstrated to you in your dream. Do you think you'd be happy about that, or suspicious?

In my case, I'm just suspicious of everything. I like to joke that my will is more of a "will not" :)

LOL. To be fair, I remember the dream was really talking about "energy". At the time I was reading a book on cerimonial magic as a way to try and understand things. It seemed to me the point of the barriers had to do with resistance, riptides and another word that's slipping my mind right now. When I was studying a bit about fluid dynamics there was a term used to explain how the "frequency" of a wave or "amplitude" of a wave is effected when it comes into a cove or inlet and how backward waves cancel out waves, etc. It was confusing because I'm not a big science geek but I remember feeling like this was a big key. Problem is, while I consider myself fairly bright, I didn't "get it". I'm still waiting for lesson two! lol

petra
29th August 2016, 21:19
To be fair, I remember the dream was really talking about "energy". At the time I was reading a book on cerimonial magic as a way to try and understand things. It seemed to me the point of the barriers had to do with resistance, riptides and another word that's slipping my mind right now. When I was studying a bit about fluid dynamics there was a term used to explain how the "frequency" of a wave or "amplitude" of a wave is effected when it comes into a cove or inlet and how backward waves cancel out waves, etc. It was confusing because I'm not a big science geek but I remember feeling like this was a big key. Problem is, while I consider myself fairly bright, I didn't "get it". I'm still waiting for lesson two! lol

The word you might be missing is "vibration", because I keep hearing people say that everything is a vibration. I can sort of understand - but like you said, it just doesn't feel like I "get it". You might want to look into FRV too (frequency resonance vibration)

I've felt like I've understood things before, and then "lost it" so to speak. Being suspicious-minded I wonder, where did that go, is my higher-self hiding it, assuming I even have one? Theoretically if we have all had past lives, there's plenty we'd know - but just not be able to access.

I highly suggest keeping lots of notes for just in case, especially when you feel like you understand something new! In my case I use pen and paper, I'm so suspicious I don't even trust my computer :)

petra
29th August 2016, 21:36
That would explain why I think they are "mimics" because I hear sounds that are "natural" for the area. Maybe it's just like an echo off of a valley wall. It was a sound made before and just echoing and I'm picking up on it from time to time.

You said "echo" and I think that is probably really close to what it is! I have weird problems writing, I call it "shifty writing" haha, anyway I remember once when it took me three tries to write the word "echoes".... that word was just very hard to write, as if my mind would not let me.

I get those same kind of "fake sounds" but I get that they must come from somewhere, so I can only guess, possibly another time/dimension/reality

Truthster013
29th August 2016, 23:07
That would explain why I think they are "mimics" because I hear sounds that are "natural" for the area. Maybe it's just like an echo off of a valley wall. It was a sound made before and just echoing and I'm picking up on it from time to time.

You said "echo" and I think that is probably really close to what it is! I have weird problems writing, I call it "shifty writing" haha, anyway I remember once when it took me three tries to write the word "echoes".... that word was just very hard to write, as if my mind would not let me.

I get those same kind of "fake sounds" but I get that they must come from somewhere, so I can only guess, possibly another time/dimension/reality

Sounds like we have a lot of the same thoughts and processes. :)