What is the consensus on Alex Collier??

[Spellbound]

I find myself getting back into Alex Collier in recent weeks. Overall, I like his message, though to be honest...awhile back there was a video on You Tube of him getting drunk while laughing about his message (filmed 20 years ago thereabouts). Admittedly, that video put me off of him for awhile (I can't seem to find it anymore..perhaps it's been taken down). His recent videos have been impressive though. Just wondering what the Avalon consensus on Alex Collier is??

Dave - Toronto

[syrwong]

He could be the first to expose the existence of reptilians, their eating humans etc. Great whistleblower, but slightly undermined by some needless false predictions, example, coming of Nibiru last April.

[mojo]

Recently went back to watch his early 90s video lectures posted on youtube, as a way to verify his predictions. When first hearing of Alex I was amazed at his testimony but in all the years he hasnt offered any supporting evidence. And not to paint Alex as a statistical outlier or storyteller because there are many other people that share some incredible ET contact as a testimony only. People like Corey Goode but also other well know names. Many folks believe Billy Meier was a hoaxer yet at least he provides some form of supporting documentation. Alex seems like a nice guy but with amazing testimony its best to have something more...

[Spellbound]

He could be the first to expose the existence of reptilians, their eating humans etc. Great whistleblower, but slightly undermined by some needless false predictions, example, coming of Nibiru last April.

I remember him at Camelot's 1st (??) Awake And Aware conference and he spoke about the children and was almost brought to tears. All he would say was the children but wouldn't elaborate. I always thought he was referring to ET's (Reptilians??) abducting and eating children.

Dave - Toronto

[amor]

When I sent for "The Biggest Secret" I received a separate package containing several booklets. One told a story about Reptiliansunder the Earth, somewhere in the mantel, who kidnapped children, worked them as slaves, and ate them alive in the presence of the other children. The story teller said the children said their parents did not want them. This is all I can remember, since I read it many years ago. The location may have been deep under the Denver DUMB.

[Olaf]

One of his predictions was: Planet X is clearly seen from March / April 2016 in the sky.

[Matina]

Alex Collier and Jim Sparks are my favorites.I think they are really honest and authentic.

[Ziky]

He could be the first to expose the existence of reptilians, their eating humans etc. Great whistleblower, but slightly undermined by some needless false predictions, example, coming of Nibiru last April.

Alex stated in a couple webinars after he made the prediction of Nibiru passing earth in late Mar early Apr. That Nibiru had stopped. In webinar 14, he said that Nibiru is moving again and when we do see it, it will be here within 2 to 3 weeks.

[robinr1]

I always thought that also dave.... referring to the ets and children.

[6pounder]

idk why but i cant get connected to this nibiru prophecy... there have been too many so called "predictions" about it ariving in our solar system and yet for a second sun its still not visible (even if its a brown dwarf). i mean how come people talk about it over and over for years but still not a single prediction to be correct... idk guys... for me all this nibiru thing sounds like a huge psyop. and all the people that take those lanse flare pictures claiming they have found nibiru. im sure if it was that close to us the first thing that would happen is that every amature astronomer could see it and the you tube would be flooded with true evidance. second thing since all the panic TPTB would have probably pull the kill switch of the internet to shut down the informatino flow. and ofc martial law in every country.
but thats just my thoughts.
if there is a good remote viewer among us, please provide us some info about where nibiru is and how far is it from us.

what do you think about it guys? (sorry for being out of topic here)

[ghostrider]

His real name is Ralph, he was the one to give Michael Horn the edward meier contact notes that were translated into english from german ...

[DNA]

I'm not a fan of Collier. He's been wrong far too many times. His information feels gathered from other sources and the Meier haters can have their say, but a lot of Collier's material feels like regurgitated Billy Meier stuff.
Except for his predictions that have been wrong. So there seems to be very little to hold sway over me here.

[prc]

It seems weird to me that ETs only talk to Anglo-saxon or European people. The day an ET talks to me will be the day I will start believing in Alex Collier and others that professed this stories. Some years ago I received an email inviting to listen to an Alex Collier radio interview and I spent some 1 or 2 hours listening to it and he gave a vague answer to several objective questions. After this interview I decided I would no longer lose my time with him anymore.
Avalonians, be aware of someone that tells prophecies, sometime ago, by the year 2012, there was a guy on internet called Pane Andov, nicknamed astral Walker. He said that the World would end at the end of 2012 and gave the exact date and the only place you could scape doom's day was a certain region in Australia where he lives.
We all know now that this was a big lie.

[EvoAwa]

I think is very brave for Alex (Pane Andov, etc) to talk about these subjects (e.g. ETs, timelines, others things that cannot be explained by Science/Logic/Evolution, etc :confused:). And I feel that they do want the best for Humanity.:bearhug::flower:

Also it will be very hard to confirm and prove what they are saying, unless they have another person/source that can backup and prove their claims.:happy dog:

It will be very hard to believe anyone unless you see it for yourself, so 'Seeing is believe'! This is why if you want to confirm for yourself, you first have to keep an open-mind and practice yourself.

For example, I know that Astral Projection/OBEs (maybe travelling to other dimensions) is possible (but is very hard) and I have family member who have done it at the same time and can confirm and prove about it.:star:

Yeah, so there are many things that we cannot see but it is actually very real. :dog::cat:

I majored in Science, so I should be sceptical about things that still cannot be explained by the current scientific knowledge and technology. But after having actual unexplainable physical experiences myself, now I truly know that the Universe is definitely much more than it meets the eyes.:sun:

[DNA]

It seems weird to me that ETs only talk to Anglo-saxon or European people.


Come on now, you've never heard of Prophet Yeweh?
The only man I've ever heard of who could summon UFO's at will?
From what I know, no one has disproved him or found out he's a fraud.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBEygrZAAw
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You know, I just remembered my first thread on Avalon was about Alex Collier.
It stirred up some controversy and in my opinion some folks left some pretty emotionally charged posts on the subject.
Billy Meir vs Alex Collier http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20827-Billy-Meier-VS-Alex-Collier

[Sueanne47]

Phil Schneider, Bob Dean and Clifford Stone are the people I trust and beleive in...especially Bob Dean, love that man!

[Spellbound]

Phil Schneider, Bob Dean and Clifford Stone are the people I trust and beleive in...especially Bob Dean, love that man!

I used to think Bob Dean was the bees knees. However, after awhile I think he started developing what's called UFO disease in that he kept trying to come up with new material to keep the masses intrigued. Once he stated that he met Jesus Christ in a past life, that's when I started tuning him out.

Dave - Toronto

[RunningDeer]

...of him getting drunk while laughing about his message (filmed 20 years ago thereabouts). Admittedly, that video put me off of him for awhile (I can't seem to find it anymore..perhaps it's been taken down).
I’m on a mini-hiatus with all the so called know-its and saw-its and experienced-its and color-its with blue.


****

The goofing around begins around one minute, and this line: Anything’s possible, but the more you drink the more aliens you’ll see is @ 2:00 (https://youtu.be/awIYPKZSvR4?t=2m).


Alex Collier 14 Years After The Ground Breaking 1994 Interview
awIYPKZSvR4

Uploaded on Feb 20, 2011

Keep up-to-date on Alex Collier's latest interviews at
http://www.AlexCollier.org

UFO Hypotheses featuring Alex Collier, Volume Three

In the tenth DVD of the "UFO Hypotheses" series, Alex Collier, after fourteen years, again sits down with Rick Keefe for a discussion including inspired conversation on the current state of affairs in the United States, ET intervention on Earth, future challenges we are beginning to face now, the history of Atlantis, and individual purpose.

[DNA]

Phil Schneider, Bob Dean and Clifford Stone are the people I trust and beleive in...especially Bob Dean, love that man!

I used to think Bob Dean was the bees knees. However, after awhile I think he started developing what's called UFO disease in that he kept trying to come up with new material to keep the masses intrigued. Once he stated that he met Jesus Christ in a past life, that's when I started tuning him out.

Dave - Toronto


Hey Sueanne and Spellbound
I was going to keep my 2 cents to myself on this, but seeing how Spellbound opened the door I'm going to go ahead and comment.


I do not trust Bob Dean. :no: :no:
Bob Dean's charisma in so far as I can tell comes from him being a classic sociopath.
The most charismatic of folks are usually sociopaths.
But this was not what turned me off to Bob Dean.
No one here would know who Bob Dean was if it wasn't for Wendelle Stevens, the most knowledgeable man on the planet when it comes to UFO contacts, that is actual beings from other planets contacting and communicating with human beings.


Wendelle was unique in so far as UFO buffs coming out of the seventies and eighties in that he joined no groups and mostly kept his own company.
He spent his retirement seeking out the most substantial UFO stories in the world, then he jumped in a jet and interviewed everyone involved on location.
After compiling his notes and the notes of the person who had the experience he would come back home to Tuscan AZ, and he would write a book of the experience, at his own expense. He would self publish usually in increments of 2000-3000 copies. I read somewhere that Wendelle had written 53 of these books, and he put no small effort into them.
Wendelle in his own right was the number one source for the most difficult to find information.


So enter Bob Dean.
Where do you think Wendelle Stevens met Bob Dean?
At a UFO conference? At a speaking engagement? In the library where they were both checking out UFO books and happened to start talking on the subject?
No.
Wendelle Stevens met Bob Dean, because Bob Dean moved into the house right next door to Wendelle Stevens, becoming Wendelle Stevens neighbor, and after Bob layed on his world class charm, the two became best buddies.
Bob Dean shared a few of the stories about working for the Army in the intelligence sector and Wendelle made the introductions and next thing you know Bob Dean is speaking at UFO conferences.


I don't buy it.
Bob Dean just happened to have been working for the intelligence community his whole life and then he just HAPPENS to move next door to the worlds most active researcher in close encounters of the fourth kind?
Nope, there is no way I'm buying that.
Too much of a coincidence.
And who is to say Bob Dean ever stopped working for the intelligence community?
I'm convinced the intelligence community planted him there, so they could keep tabs on Wendelle and have someone to influence him should the need arise.


And for the record, Bob Dean has never stated ANYTHING I haven't already heard.
Bob Dean has given the UFO community NOTHING, ZERO, NADA. No relevant information what so ever.
Bob Dean is a fixture in the UFO community because of his charisma and his excellent story telling, but mind you, there is no relevant data what so ever in any of those stories.


I will stop with that.
Have a good day. :happy dog: :flower:

[Spellbound]

...of him getting drunk while laughing about his message (filmed 20 years ago thereabouts). Admittedly, that video put me off of him for awhile (I can't seem to find it anymore..perhaps it's been taken down).
I’m on a mini-hiatus with all the so called know-its and saw-its and experienced-its and color-its with blue.


****

The goofing around begins around one minute, and this line: Anything’s possible, but the more you drink the more aliens you’ll see is @ 2:00 (https://youtu.be/awIYPKZSvR4?t=2m).


Alex Collier 14 Years After The Ground Breaking 1994 Interview
awIYPKZSvR4

Uploaded on Feb 20, 2011

Keep up-to-date on Alex Collier's latest interviews at
http://www.AlexCollier.org

UFO Hypotheses featuring Alex Collier, Volume Three

In the tenth DVD of the "UFO Hypotheses" series, Alex Collier, after fourteen years, again sits down with Rick Keefe for a discussion including inspired conversation on the current state of affairs in the United States, ET intervention on Earth, future challenges we are beginning to face now, the history of Atlantis, and individual purpose.

Yes, that's the video I was referring to. It put me off to see him drinking and joking about his message.

Dave - Toronto

[RunningDeer]

Yes, that's the video I was referring to. It put me off to see him drinking and joking about his message.

Dave - Toronto

Me too. It's a visual that doesn't quit.
Years ago, I donated to him a couple of times for his kids than his scotch.

[Sueanne47]

I watched a 2012 video with Alex Collier and Project Camelot that had been updated to July 2016. He was presenting himself in a very agitated way with a nervous voice, and making me and the audience very nervous, thinking....any moment now its going to be an all out ET invasion!. Also he said there are definately hybrid 'super soldiers', all of us should be stockpiling (nothing has happened to Germany yet has it??!!) and we should get ready to fight to stop us becoming slaves.

I watched another doom merchant who had worked in the underground tunnels, and he said we are very soon going straight to hell with Nibiru heading straight for us :gaah:

I am REALLY AND TRULY SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS BS all these people (Bob Dean, John Lear, Wendell Stevens, Clifford Stone, and anyone else on the list hasnt got a shred of evidence to back up their claims - they just give lectures and show faraway black & white out of focus pictures of spaceships/structures to go on. Its a big deal to be invaded by ET's, 4 years down the line ~ and we are all still here ~ and I havent come across a single ET yet have you...? :cantina:

[Spellbound]

I am REALLY AND TRULY SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS BS all these people (Bob Dean, John Lear, Wendell Stevens, Clifford Stone, and anyone else on the list hasnt got a shred of evidence to back up their claims - they just give lectures and show faraway black & white out of focus pictures of spaceships/structures to go on. Its a big deal to be invaded by ET's, 4 years down the line ~ and we are all still here ~ and I havent come across a single ET yet have you...? :cantina:

One thing I truly do appreciate about John Lear is the notion that our souls come back repeatedly to try and learn to live one's life with integrity and without envy, hate, or greed. That line has always resonated with me.

Dave - Toronto

[Sueanne47]

I agree Spellbound, for the last couple of days I've loved listening to John's videos, I think he's a good man...it was interesting to hear that bit about souls going to the moon. I think its just me having a rant really about Alex Collier.

Everything is all smoke & mirrors ~ "I think this guy is telling the truth" - "errr...no actually he's a liar & a hoax" ...that's all I've heard about every single whistleblower.

[7alon]

I watched a 2012 video with Alex Collier and Project Camelot that had been updated to July 2016. He was presenting himself in a very agitated way with a nervous voice, and making me and the audience very nervous, thinking....any moment now its going to be an all out ET invasion!. Also he said there are definately hybrid 'super soldiers', all of us should be stockpiling (nothing has happened to Germany yet has it??!!) and we should get ready to fight to stop us becoming slaves.

I watched another doom merchant who had worked in the underground tunnels, and he said we are very soon going straight to hell with Nibiru heading straight for us :gaah:

I am REALLY AND TRULY SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS BS all these people (Bob Dean, John Lear, Wendell Stevens, Clifford Stone, and anyone else on the list hasnt got a shred of evidence to back up their claims - they just give lectures and show faraway black & white out of focus pictures of spaceships/structures to go on. Its a big deal to be invaded by ET's, 4 years down the line ~ and we are all still here ~ and I havent come across a single ET yet have you...? :cantina:

Yep lol, I don't pay any attention to them. You can tell who the people that are telling the truth are, because they get undesired attention (Pete Peterson, Phil Schneider etc).

Phil was murdered and Pete spoke out once and headed for the hills lol.

[RunningDeer]

Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend: "He's (Alex Collier) making this all up."

More from the same video.




1:35:00 Lori: …this woman walks up to the table and she says are you Lori? and we're talking away and she says (I’m not gonna tell you her name) she says I am Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend…

Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend: I heard you on your radio show week or two ago
saying that you were thinking about bringing Alex 20 Year Conferences and that you were trying your best to give him some money because you had heard he was living in a car in Denver and he was cold and starving to death…

[snip]
and
[snip some more]

He's making this all up. You know how I know? He had every book he could steal from every library from LA to who-knows-where about ET contact and …


Corey Goode says, “I need to be famous.” https://i.imgur.com/CIEhvsN.gif

Note: I’m not far into this video. Bill Ryan’s name and the Corey Goode reveal piqued my interest.


Live On The Fenton Perspective (Lorien Fenton)




@3:13 - I did a lot with targeted individuals. I did a lot of things but having said that when I was back doing those conferences I was getting phone calls from guys all the time and everybody here knows on the show now because I finally revealed it about two months ago…

3:48 …at one point I was dealing with Kerry and Bill quite a bit in the beginning. Yeah Bill Ryan, I loved him dearly and I think since Bill put me on that hit you know, the Dark Alliance hit list or whatever it was that came out… the very first one that came out. Bill created it and it was I was number four on the it. And here's the reason why it took me years to figure this out.

@ 4:25 …meeting Corey Goode like three times to figure this out. Somebody called me from Texas with two kids and a wife back in the time when he was living in Texas. Back in the old Avalon days. And said, “Hey, I'm a super soldier and I did this and I did that and I remembered something about being taken in time and being put back.” And you know this whole story right?

And at the very end of the story CW (CW Chanter) this is where I have this has absolutely happened. Okay and I don't know for sure it was Corey Goode, but I can tell you now, I know it probably was because he won't talk to me, won't look at me, he won't have anything to do with me. And I'm pretty sure this is why and what he said to me, at the last part of this and last part is a conversation which really got me like okay, I can't ever talk to this guy again. He says, “I need to be famous.”

@ 6:04…two years later, I'm at a conference and I go up to Corey Goode with a friend trying to introduce myself to him and he won't look me in the eye. He refuses to look me in the eye, refuses to basically talk to me. Kind of ignores me and uh grunts at me and then turns around and walks the other direction.

@ 7:13 - He did say something about time travel that piqued my interest and that was it. It wasn’t much and then he got into how he lost his job at a computer or IP company. And then all these things are going on. They didn't have any money and then I want to be famous.



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[DNA]

Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend: "He's (Alex Collier) making this all up."

More from the same video.[INDENT][INDENT]1:35:00 Lori: …this woman walks up to the table and she says are you Lori? and we're talking away and she says (I’m not gonna tell you her name) she says I am Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend…

Alex Collier’s ex-girl friend: I heard you on your radio show week or two ago
saying that you were thinking about bringing Alex 20 Year Conferences and that you were trying your best to give him some money because you had heard he was living in a car in Denver and he was cold and starving to death…

[snip]
and
[snip some more]

He's making this all up. You know how I know? He had every book he could steal from every library from LA to who-knows-where about ET contact and …


I think it is worth noting that Michael Horn of the Billy Meier camp knew Alex Collier back when he was still Ralph Amagran and stated that his first introduction to Billy Meier was Ralph giving him (Michael Horn) a copy of Wendelle Stevens "UFO CONTACT FROM THE PLIEADIES". Michael Horn makes a good argument for Ralph I mean Alex Collier being a fraud and making his living by ripping off stories from Billy Meier, on a personal note, I've never believed Alex Collier as he has sets off all of my built in lie detectors.

Note that the below is Michael Horn's take on Alex Collier.




Alex Collier's Stupid Stuff (http://www.theyfly.com/articles/Alex%20Collier.html)
The Delusional Writing of the Imaginary “Alex Collier” (http://www.theyfly.com/articles/Alex%20Collier.html)
“Alex Collier”, who claims to be a “genuine, life-long, Andromedan contactee”, wrote the following “predictions”. This in itself is a nice trick since this fifty or sixty-something year-old fellow has only existed since about the early 1990s. Do the math.
Before then he was known as Ralph Amagran, a former IRS agent, who, at the time that I first met him (http://theyfly.com/UFO_Mag_Article.htm) in 1986, was also unemployed and searching for something to do, or perhaps become. (He apparently found both in the creation of a new identity as “Alex Collier”.) It was Amagran who first presented me with the Contact Notes of Billy Meier, for which I remain grateful to this day.
However, it is apparently this same amazing information of Meier’s that he plagiarized, in some cases, and that he based part of his false identity and life story on in order to make money and create a following…of very gullible people.
Among these gullible, as well as overly ambitious, people is Dr. Michael Salla, one of the “leaders” of an equally fictitious area of study known as “exopolitics”. Salla himself is distinguished by having lost his academic status, job and work standing in the U.S. – according to information proudly provided by his cohorts at “exopolitics”. (No explanation is provided for why academia gave Salla such an unambiguous boot in the butt. Nor is there an explanation as to why his unequivocal expulsion warranted exopolitics’ bestowing on Salla an [I]award for “Intellectual Courage”, based on the kind of professional denouncement that is usually, dare I say normally, considered shameful rather than praiseworthy.)
Seemingly oblivious to the inconsistencies in “Collier’s” story, several years ago Salla defiantly offered the predictions below, as evidence of this same “Collier’s” genuineness. To this day, despite my numerous requests for him to either substantiate or defend this information, or admit that he was wrong to promote such an obviously delusional lunatic, Salla has stubbornly refused, perhaps in order to demonstrate the kind of irrationality, and/or incompetence, that resulted in his being not only unceremoniously expelled from an actually credible educational institution but also denied further employment in the field.
Michael Horn

[RunningDeer]

on a personal note, I've never believed Alex Collier as he has sets off all of my built in lie detectors.

https://i.imgur.com/AkFnFCY.gif
Thanks, DNA. I’ll check it out. :wave:

I was taken in by Alex Collier and donated twice, maybe * three times. My wake up call was when I saw him in an interview with a glass of liquor. My donations were to put food on the table for his kids.

(she naively exclaimed) https://i.imgur.com/wTlYXrZ.gif

*Third time was later when I caved because he was living out of a van.


Alex Collier 14 Years After The Ground Breaking 1994 Interview
awIYPKZSvR4

[Spellbound]

on a personal note, I've never believed Alex Collier as he has sets off all of my built in lie detectors.

https://i.imgur.com/AkFnFCY.gif
Thanks, DNA. I’ll check it out. :wave:

I was taken in by Alex Collier and donated twice, maybe * three times. My wake up call was when I saw him in an interview with a glass of liquor. [/CENTER]

Exactly. I was never able to get past that video of him drinking and making a mockery of things (imo).

Dave - Toronto

[DeeMetrios]

I find myself getting back into Alex Collier in recent weeks. Overall, I like his message, though to be honest...awhile back there was a video on You Tube of him getting drunk while laughing about his message (filmed 20 years ago thereabouts). Admittedly, that video put me off of him for awhile (I can't seem to find it anymore..perhaps it's been taken down). His recent videos have been impressive though. Just wondering what the Avalon consensus on Alex Collier is??

Dave - Toronto

Worthless info .... wether its made up , stolen or re-hashed .
Im glad i never wasted my time & money buying & reading book .