Law of Attraction and the Conspiracy Theorists Conundrum (Optimistic or Naive?)

[Truthster013]

In the past few years I have really began to accept the principles of the Law of Attraction (LOA), Neurolinguistic Programing (NLP), and various spiritual philosophies which all teach essentially that we all create our own reality by what we chose to focus on. I want to briefly explain the differences of LOA vs. NLP as I see it and then explain my conundrum being a long time conspiracy theorist.

The Law of Attraction might be summed up this way. What we focus on sends a thought vibration out into the universe and attracts or "resonates" with those things that match our frequency vibration. Thus the universe is always bringing toward us those things that resonate with our thoughts. We are not always vibrating what we think we are. For example, I might wish for world peace because I constantly see war and evil in the world. I might THINK my vibration is asking for peace when in reality my thoughts are focused on the evil of the world and thus I only attract more evil.

NLP might be summed up this way. If I act, do and say things to myself over and over again my brain is forced to respond and make me actually FEEL the way I am acting and saying because the brain is incapable of being in disharmony. For example, if I constantly tell myself I'm happy, wake up every morning and force a smile on my face, my brain will be FORCED to conclude that I am happy. So in the world peace scenario above we might say that if I act, say and do all the things people who experience great peace do I myself will experience great peace.

Now enters my conundrum. I am a life long truth seeker and am fascinated by conspiracy theories and independent investigative research. I love uncovering hidden truths. I love finding out the so called REAL motivations behind things the masses are lied to about. But then it dawned on me. Do I live in a world where the power elite abuse the masses because that's really what is happening or did I simply CREATE that reality for myself because that's what I choose to focus on? In Law of Attraction language, do I see injustice in the world because I'm drawing unjust things towards me by focusing on it all the time? Or in NLP language, is it BECAUSE I tell myself the world is corrupt that I believe it's corrupt? Can I simply change the world by telling myself the world is perfect and that everything is wonderful? If I tell myself that repeatedly will NLP be proven true and I'll come to believe the world is nothing but sunshine and roses? Or, will being positive and changing my focus only make me naive? My brain tells me the elite will still abuse the masses, corruption will still go on, and murder will still happen. My choosing not to look it at doesn't make it go away. It makes me naive.

So, is being a conspiracy theorist incompatible with being an optimist and being truly happy in life?

[Rich]

My choosing not to look it at doesn't make it go away. It makes me naive.
We can't choose for others, if we think others are suffering then best we can do is be at peace, eventually they'll follow your example.

I used to feel sorry for people but now I know this does not help them get out of their suffering, rather it affirms their belief that life is cruel and that Love does not exist.

[Enola]

Isn't it more that you need a balance, like shadow work and positive thinking? Life is complex.

[Truthster013]

My choosing not to look it at doesn't make it go away. It makes me naive.
We can't choose for others, if we think others are suffering then best we can do is be at peace, eventually they'll follow your example.

I used to feel sorry for people but now I know this does not help them get out of their suffering, rather it affirms their belief that life is cruel and that Love does not exist.

Along this line I also struggle with the fact that I really enjoy teaching and sharing with other what I learn. I enjoy uncovering things and then watching the lightbulb go off for others when I share something with someone that suddenly "gets it". I like it because I too love that feeling when the light bulb goes off and like to share that feeling. I don't know if that's pure ego or not. But my point to this is should I be trying to share what I learn about abuses and the truth of matters as I see them or should I let people be happy where they are? I would enjoy writing but not if people will become disillusioned if they are happy with life as it is. Some people need to believe in things that make them happy whether it's true or not. Others want the truth whether it makes them happy or not. For example, if my wife is cheating on me I want to know rather than live the lie. Would I be happier not knowing? Maybe. Would it not be accurate that what I don't know wont hurt me? But for some people the truth is more important than "happiness".

[Rich]

So in the world peace scenario above we might say that if I act, say and do all the things people who experience great peace do I myself will experience great peace.

Yeah, we don't really see our brothers and sisters we see our own projections of them. If you see suffering it might be just your own suffering that you see reflected.

[christian]

There is a law of attraction. But it's not the only law there is. There is also a law of intention. Therefore not everything that happens to you happens because you attracted it, it can just be due to some other sovereign being's free will decisions.

The following is from Messages for the Groundcrew (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_messagesgroundcrew.htm). It's an attempt to describe the essential forces on the current human plane of existence:

1. The Law of Attraction:
like attracts like

2. The Law of Deliberate Intent:
what is intended and held resolutely within thought, word and deed manifests

3. The Law of Allowance:
allowing what is intended to manifest while using the observer mode to be awake and aware while continuing to hold the focus without being rigid as to the outcome
(allowing thought to think!)

4. The Law of Balance:
applying the first 3 laws and focusing within the present moment

[Builder]

So, is being a conspiracy theorist incompatible with being an optimist and being truly happy in life?

Happiness is a one sided emotion. Nobody can be happy all the time, not even the Dalai Lama.

Seek fulfillment instead of happiness by following what you feel is important in this life.

[Truthster013]

The following is from Messages for the Groundcrew (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_messagesgroundcrew.htm). It's an attempt to describe the essential forces on the current human plane of existence:


Intriguing addition to the discussion. Thanks! I'll try and read it soon!

[boutreality]

The principle at play does is not enacted by thought alone- that is a psyop. Intent, focused throughout the physiological body has a greater affect and in all cases there is a network of machinations in place to keep favored outcomes in the hands of the planet's rulers. As a general understanding the Law of Attraction is known because of an unconscious perception misinterpreted by the necessary step of conscious awareness ascertaining it in a communicable form.

Check my opening post in below thread if interested in the physical properties at play and the prima facie case for an intervening construct that usurps this natural tendency of the field as a whole, lending the world's elite more favorable outcomes.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90925-The-Unified-Field

[KiwiElf]

I am curious, have any readers experienced the exact opposite of what they were trying to attract OR, using say... intense anger/negative emotions to actually create a positive result?

[ulli]

With evolving consciousness come discoveries of higher and higher marvels.

Discovering conspiracies is a mind event, and it is easy to get stuck there, as the mind loves to be fascinated.
But if consciousness can reach higher, or probe beyond the darkness of hidden secrets and evil plots, there one can enter another level, another world.
And to maintain contact with that world fascination is just not enough. A new attitude is needed, and the best way I know to describe is is AWE. AWE mixed with WONDER, with GRATITUDE. Other virtues can be helpful as well, like humility and honesty.
Because the mind can no longer grasp the laws that govern that domain. So here the mind has to be placed on hold. Others who havent been there may judge one as naive, but never mind. It's their loss.

The fact that a simple wish can be fulfilled, not just randomly once in a while, but consistently, means we have reached a level beyond the smartest psy-ops. Worth cherishing every moment.

[KiwiElf]

Thank you ulli - the reason I asked involves a delightful young lady I worked with who was our front office receptionist. She was "pure" in as much as she possessed the most genuinely positive personality you could ever imagine. She was killed in a tragic and needless accident (trying to retrieve a bracelet from a conveyor belt on a rock crusher - I don't think I need to elaborate).

I'm sure we can all relate to similar situations. How can genuinely positive people attract such negative... "experiences"?

[ulli]

Thank you ulli - the reason I asked involves a delightful young lady I worked with who was our front office receptionist. She was "pure" in as much as she possessed the most genuinely positive personality you could ever imagine. She was killed in a tragic and needless accident (trying to retrieve a bracelet from a conveyor belt on a rock crusher - I don't think I need to elaborate).

I'm sure we can all relate to similar situations. How can genuinely positive people attract such negative... "experiences"?

That sounds truly tragic. Tragic for the bereaved.
And I have heard of similar cases, and the first thing I ask the grieving parent if the child was in any way special, highly virtuous, or more loving than other kids or youth at that age.
And the answer is always, "Yes, absolutely".
One case of a five year old who died of leukemia, who from an early age would bring mummy breakfast in bed. Also cases like the one you described.

So this is what I concluded- that for some souls when the moment of perfection is reached, they are free to go.
No more reincarnation...they go straight to heaven.
Heaven being a higher dimension, without the suffering of this place.
I don't care if someone wants to come in here with a psy-ops comment...

I have lived too many experiences that are proof that the universe is not ruled by evil forces.

[Rich]

I'm sure we can all relate to similar situations. How can genuinely positive people attract such negative... "experiences"?
They don't. If you think only "positive" you will manifest only positive situations.
Also for her it might have been a positive experience it always depends on the perspective taken.

However we might think we are being positive all the while denying our underlying negativity that's why it can seem like it doesn't work.
Like imagining that you have something you wish for but underlying opposing thought telling you it is not possible the stronger belief/thought wins out on what will manifest.

[shaberon]

Or in NLP language, is it BECAUSE I tell myself the world is corrupt that I believe it's corrupt? Can I simply change the world by telling myself the world is perfect and that everything is wonderful? If I tell myself that repeatedly will NLP be proven true and I'll come to believe the world is nothing but sunshine and roses? Or, will being positive and changing my focus only make me naive?

There really is a lot of corruption, and you and I are not going to affect it much.

With the right re-programming, you can become indifferent and carefree about it all, and this can lead to liberation.

I place more value in the bodhisattva vow, i. e. you taste the wonderfulness of this liberation, but refuse to accept it, and continue to appear on this miserable ball of dust for the benefit of its dwellers. Sometimes, righteous anger is a valid tool (Jesus vs. Pharisees), and horrible things happen to nice people simply from previous karma. In that sense, our rich oppressors can be pitied, as that kind of karma has not yet even started for them.

Agree that the universe is not ruled by evil, but it is often more powerful in this world.

In my experience of having interfered with fights and criminal activity, I would not describe a minute of it as a particularly happy time. It may have spared a few victims, but did not scratch the surface of war or criminal institutions, let alone that dross of human nature that causes them. Have to be content doing what I can, and not get too upset about the rest of the stuff that's out there that's way bigger than me.

[AutumnW]

Truthster,

I think you are on the right track. We can't hope to improve and change the world, or love with deep intensity, if we refuse to look at the ugly. For the sake of balance, it's probably not a good idea to steep oneself in the negative, all of the time. When righteous indignation about all of life's injustice segues into despair, cynicism or a deep distrust of humanity, THAT can undercut connection and compassion. So, as another poster mentioned, balance is the key.

I have another take on the laws of attraction. It should be augmented by the laws of repression. If you are repressing 'dark negative thoughts,' all of the time and with all of your might, you are doing what nearly everybody in positions of power does. And injustices we don't address, because we refuse to even look at them, persist. Or, "what you resist, persists."

Life has a magic element, for sure. But we can't make a strict ideology out of that magic. We have to accept it and love it when it happens but not try to control it.

[Truthster013]

Truthster,

I think you are on the right track. We can't hope to improve and change the world, or love with deep intensity, if we refuse to look at the ugly. For the sake of balance, it's probably not a good idea to steep oneself in the negative, all of the time. When righteous indignation about all of life's injustice segues into despair, cynicism or a deep distrust of humanity, THAT can undercut connection and compassion. So, as another poster mentioned, balance is the key.

I have another take on the laws of attraction. It should be augmented by the laws of repression. If you are repressing 'dark negative thoughts,' all of the time and with all of your might, you are doing what nearly everybody in positions of power does. And injustices we don't address, because we refuse to even look at them, persist. Or, "what you resist, persists."

Life has a magic element, for sure. But we can't make a strict ideology out of that magic. We have to accept it and love it when it happens but not try to control it.

A couple of you have said things like this but I'm going to rephrase it in my own words. What I try to do is not get emotionally invested in the negative much. I OBSERVE it. I can report on it. I can study it. I can explain it to others, but I try not to DWELL on it or give it emotional power. I think ignoring the injustices of the world would make someone naive and possible a victim. However, one also does not need to FEAR and dwell on negative. Be aware, but also be aware of the good in life. As many say, BALANCE

[jimrich]

I can only speak for my self and my reality here.

In the past few years I have really began to accept the principles of the Law of Attraction (LOA), Neurolinguistic Programing (NLP), and various spiritual philosophies which all teach essentially that we all create our own reality by what we chose to focus on. I want to briefly explain the differences of LOA vs. NLP as I see it and then explain my conundrum being a long time conspiracy theorist.
I'd begin by determining who/what this 'I', 'we', 'my', etc. is. Who am I that is a "conspiracy theorist" or has a need to: create, learn, teach, etc.? In my case, it will often turn out to be my very limited and temporary ego so that just about puts and end to most of my 'issues' since I, the Source, can see that everything is going along just as it is supposed to in my living dream and I, the Source, am not disturbed by any of it. It's just the play of Life, life-ing or automatically happening just the way I, the Source, want it to happen. The ego can be very upset by conspiracies, murder, crime, government lies, shadow governments, plots, aliens, big foot, Karma, Sin, evil, etc. but the Source of all of it is not all that concerned over the perfection that it is expressing in it's cosmic dramas.


The Law of Attraction might be summed up this way. What we focus on sends a thought vibration out into the universe and attracts or "resonates" with those things that match our frequency vibration. Thus the universe is always bringing toward us those things that resonate with our thoughts. We are not always vibrating what we think we are. For example, I might wish for world peace because I constantly see war and evil in the world. I might THINK my vibration is asking for peace when in reality my thoughts are focused on the evil of the world and thus I only attract more evil.
And from the Source's perspective all of that is exactly what Source wants and is projecting in its dream.


NLP might be summed up this way. If I act, do and say things to myself over and over again my brain is forced to respond and make me actually FEEL the way I am acting and saying because the brain is incapable of being in disharmony. For example, if I constantly tell myself I'm happy, wake up every morning and force a smile on my face, my brain will be FORCED to conclude that I am happy. So in the world peace scenario above we might say that if I act, say and do all the things people who experience great peace do I myself will experience great peace.
Again, the Source, which is you behind the needy ego, is making, doing and BEING all of that.


Now enters my conundrum.
Who's conundrum? Who/what are you? Is this the ego's conundrum or the Source's conundrum? Are you the ego, with a conundrum or the Source which never has a conundrum?


I am a life long truth seeker and am fascinated by conspiracy theories and independent investigative research.
Who/what is this 'I' that is a truth seeker?


But then it dawned on me.
Who/what is this 'me'?


So, is being a conspiracy theorist incompatible with being an optimist and being truly happy in life?
I'd say that being lost in one's ego is what makes life so painful and unhappy whereas, being the Source, which you are anyway, will make anyone happy without ever having to change the "world", although that's OK too.
Gandhi "changed" the world by coming from the Source rather than his ego but the Source was always in charge of the show anyway, IMO. I'd say do or be whatever you like or think is right - it's still the Source doing and being you and everything for its own unique reasons and purpose. The Source is all that there is so have a ball in your life dream of conspiracy theorist or optimist, etc. "Life is but a dream" (from the song). :heart:

[jimrich]

I don't know if that's pure ego or not.
IMO, it is but the point is - are you an ego or are you something more Real than the limited ego?


But for some people the truth is more important than "happiness".
I'd say the truth of my identity is the most important one of all. Once I know I'm not a limited, blind, reactive, unhappy, FEARFUL ego, most of life becomes manageable or acceptable for me, the Source.:bearhug:

[jimrich]

What I try to do is not get emotionally invested in the negative much.
Who is this 'I' that is doing such and such?
If that 'I' or you is the ego, it/you cannot help being emotionally invested in the negative, whereas, if that 'I' is the Source, you will be in it but NOT OF IT. The Source can enter and enjoy the play of its life because it IS the play but will never be "of it" (lost in it) whereas the ego is ALWAYS lost in and "of" the play.

I OBSERVE it. I can report on it. I can study it. I can explain it to others, but I try not to DWELL on it or give it emotional power.
Only the Source (you) can do any of that but not the ego.

I think ignoring the injustices of the world would make someone naive and possible a victim. However, one also does not need to FEAR and dwell on negative. Be aware, but also be aware of the good in life. As many say, BALANCE
If and when this 'one' is the Source and not the ego, balance and other positive things can happen in life since you are in it but NOT OF IT. :Party:

[jimrich]

How can genuinely positive people attract such negative... "experiences"?
IMHO, its all up to Source and I assume that Source has its own, special reasons and purposes for all that "happens" in its life play, like taking my late wife over to the after life where she is extremely happy now - but comes back here quite often to enjoy chocolate ice cream with and in me. I could not explain why things happen as they do but can only assume that Source had a "good" reason for what happened to the "genuinely positive" girl and to my late wife. What I notice is that those in the afterlife seem to understand what their life was about and for, have no regrets and seem to be VERY HAPPY over there. :heart: