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Sueanne47
31st August 2016, 01:44
A video John Lear did on 26th Aug 2016, forgive him, his mind is running a bit slower now he is 74 and has trouble remembering & hearing stuff, but its interesting listening about the moon and what's going on with the aliens..
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I found a so called 'leaked' photo of the moon with a spider like structure on it:
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lucidity
31st August 2016, 14:38
Hi Sueanne47,
The moon picture you've posted, doesn't look like it's from the moon.
1. Bottom right corner.. that's vegetation, isn't it ?
2. Centre right, that looks like a pond or lake ... a body of water.
Are you _really_ sure this is a moon shot ?
Could it not be a pic of somewhere in Mexico, or the middle east ?
Sueanne47
31st August 2016, 14:54
I dont know if anyone has put this video on before, but he tell more revealing facts ~ Isreali's put an atomic bomb on Fukoshima because the Japanese were doing a secret deal with Iran to supply them with Plutonium. There are 300 types of aliens living in the Sun (WOWW! the giant cube by the sun is an alien 'way' station for transit round the galaxy.
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Sueanne47
31st August 2016, 14:58
Lucidity ~ could be photoshopped, just found the pic when I did a search of the moon surface, I must say the land doesnt look very moon like!
Bill Ryan
31st August 2016, 14:59
Hi Sueanne47,
The moon picture you've posted, doesn't look like it's from the moon.
1. Bottom right corner.. that's vegetation, isn't it ?
2. Centre right, that looks like a pond or lake ... a body of water.
Are you _really_ sure this is a moon shot ?
Could it not be a pic of somewhere in Mexico, or the middle east ?
It's in Iran. :)
See this video (and turn down the music if it's not to your taste!) -- the photo is at 1:52.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-b43dBgss
ghostrider
31st August 2016, 17:50
John is right about one thing , reincarnation ... we live out millions of lifetimes, until we reach half spirit half material, then millions of more lifetimes, until we no longer need a material body to learn ...reaching the level of arahat arasata, then the next level of Petale ... it keeps going until one day we merge back with creation from where we came, it is said Enoch in another time space was called Nokodmjon and completed this process 12 billion years ago ... his peoples fell away from spirit teaching and he chose a second set of incarnations to teach the peoples , we in our epoch know him a enoch, isaiah, elijah, jeremiah, immanuel, muhammad, and beam , according to what iive read, i cannot prove anything... its up to the individual to work through it at your own pace, on your own terms, in your own time ...
lucidity
1st September 2016, 04:35
Hi Sueanne47,
The moon picture you've posted, doesn't look like it's from the moon.
1. Bottom right corner.. that's vegetation, isn't it ?
2. Centre right, that looks like a pond or lake ... a body of water.
Are you _really_ sure this is a moon shot ?
Could it not be a pic of somewhere in Mexico, or the middle east ?
It's in Iran. :)
See this video (and turn down the music if it's not to your taste!) -- the photo is at 1:52.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-b43dBgss
This moon shot might be a place in Iran...
but not the place they're claiming in the video.
That's a failed Debunk attempt.
Actually.. not convincing at all.
The debunk relies on the suggestion that this
prospective moon Pic is actually Ardeshir Palace in Iran.
Skip to 2:23 in the video for a side by side comparison.
The comparison doesn't work.
Several reasons:
1. There's a body of water next to the buildings....
But it's clearly not the same body of water shown in the moon shot:
1.a. - It's the wrong shape.
1.b. - Notice the orientation of the buildings... The water is on the wrong side of the buildings.
2. There's no canal running laterally to the buildings
3. The structures themselves are simply NOT the same.
3.a. - The outer perimeters are not the same.
3.b. - The internal walls are not the same.
The people that produced this video:
4th Phase Of Malaise = DEBUNK FAIL.
The fact that someone's gone to such lengths, creating a video,
to debunk this picture... makes me doubt my original doubt.
I have two questions:
1. Has John Lear said this pic is genuine ?
2. Where exactly did this picture come from ?
be happy :-)
lucidity
Citizen No2
1st September 2016, 05:38
This image first appeared on the internet on 4th March 2012 from this youtube account:
https://www.youtube.com/user/orbitaltechnical
User has standard conspiracy-type videos. Can't find any reference of the picture before that.
TinEye is your friend.
R
Sueanne47
1st September 2016, 06:02
Because John was talking about the moon in the first video, I decided to look and find objects on the moon from google images.
Here's another video from John about the moon and its structures, Et's, this was published 2 months ago: he knows such a lot about the solar system.
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John has a website that has a WEALTH of data on every subject!, such as planets, ET's, 9/11 etc. *so much to read*
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html
KiwiElf
1st September 2016, 06:44
I wouldn't go so far as to say everything that NASA says is a lie, but a lot of things yeah ;)
Citizen No2
1st September 2016, 14:13
@Sueanne47
If you spent a fair bit of time just using Avalon as a resource, like a library, you'll find a wealth of info on a vast amount of subjects. Many of the answers that you seek are within this very site......... Just takes a little diggin'. :bigsmile:
Regards.
Sueanne47
1st September 2016, 15:13
@Sueanne47
If you spent a fair bit of time just using Avalon as a resource, like a library, you'll find a wealth of info on a vast amount of subjects. Many of the answers that you seek are within this very site......... Just takes a little diggin'. :bigsmile:
Regards.
Ahh yes Citizen No 2, Avalon does have a vast library, but its *very, very difficult* now to know fact from fiction. If someone like John speaks of 'integrity' and is fully aware of what happens to us in the afterlife if we tell lies, then that is someone I can say I can trust. Also Bill & Kerry wouldnt have interviewed him if his facts were fake. There is lots of information about Billy Meier and Simon Parkes, all the time it's 'is this person for real?? can I believe what he says? and it does get on your nerves after a while, after going through so much info...only to have someone come along and debunk them and say its all trash and a scam.
Having said that, on my 'learning travels' I dont think all of what Billy Meier stated was a lie, his ex-wife didnt help his case by saying he used dustbin lids as flying saucers in his film..
Bill Ryan
1st September 2016, 17:16
Also Bill & Kerry wouldnt have interviewed him [John Lear] if his facts were fake.
No, not exactly true. :)
John Lear is one of the most significant characters in Ufology, and did a huge amount back in the late 80s and early 90s to alert us all on what was (or might be) really going on.
Henry Deacon (Art Newmann) wrote to me privately quite a while back (after we'd published our major 4-part interview with him) that John Lear's info was about 80% accurate. I'd agree with that, personally.
lake
1st September 2016, 19:01
@Sueanne47
If you spent a fair bit of time just using Avalon as a resource, like a library, you'll find a wealth of info on a vast amount of subjects. Many of the answers that you seek are within this very site......... Just takes a little diggin'. :bigsmile:
Regards.
This is what I do....have done.......I search and read all the posts by a member if they have posted information which I consider 'of value'.
Sometimes its many thousands of posts....but I consider it worth-whiled.
This is not to say that I read and believe, I do not, the words have to have value.
Value to me can be defined as:
expanding my thoughts via another's considered opinions which have been experienced and are subsequently perceived by that entity as being correct.
Thus I can then personally consider if that experience can integrate its nature within my selfs considerations, so as to fund a 'movement' of my selfishness towards another me!
I am always 'open' to anything I read.
I have just began to 'read' the old forum....looking for clues...... :bigsmile:
This forum is a huge library....you just need to find the correct paragraphs!
Its quite a mystery.......have fun looking
Sueanne47
2nd September 2016, 06:33
There are two things John said that I'd like to investigate further ~ firstly, he said there isnt a god...only a 'force'. Another thing is about the Hadron Collider, John said "Hadron's dont exist, its a scam. Et's shut down the facility as it was liable to blow up the earth. (has it really shut down? I do believe him about the 9/11 planes being a hologram or video fakery.
lucidity
2nd September 2016, 18:43
This image first appeared on the internet on 4th March 2012 from this youtube account:
https://www.youtube.com/user/orbitaltechnical
User has standard conspiracy-type videos. Can't find any reference of the picture before that.
TinEye is your friend.
R
Hi No 2 :)
It's always nice to make new friends.
Who or what is TinEye ?
be happy
playground
Sunny-side-up
2nd September 2016, 20:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-b43dBgss
The building image, is different to my picture post here, it dose still remind me of the/a 'Zaggurat'
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFNwNyr5_gsnwLTySJcO-ZqtyK6aDjNGpgYkuVKB81GDZAlq7rkA
Side note to the main OP, had to say this:
First few mins of this vid, quite shocking, that the interviewer in this vid dosent know his 'Contrails' from his 'chemtrails' and he thinks it's all just down to the fuel in normal planes, it has been shown that on some planes the chemtrails dont come from the engines but extra nozels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGnUYstfMjM
Thx for posting it btw Sueanne47 :)
7alon
3rd September 2016, 03:30
Something doesn't sit right with me about John Lear. Does anybody else feel the same way? I have been listening to the first video posted in this thread, along with another of him being visible in a video interview. William Cooper talked about him as if he is the real deal, but as a highly intuitive person, I just get these vibes that he isn't telling the truth.
Spellbound
3rd September 2016, 03:58
Something doesn't sit right with me about John Lear. Does anybody else feel the same way? I have been listening to the first video posted in this thread, along with another of him being visible in a video interview. William Cooper talked about him as if he is the real deal, but as a highly intuitive person, I just get these vibes that he isn't telling the truth.
I like John Lear. In fact it was watching an episode of Alien Hunters and seeing Bob Lazar mentioned that led me to Project Camelot interviewing John Lear (which led me to all the other Camelot videos which awakened me to what what really going on out there). Anyways, in regards to John Lear, I do find his stories fascinating but I also think that only about half of what he says is true and the other half with a grain of salt. Still though, that half that is true is mindblowing. I was intrigued to see Richard D Hall take him to task a couple years back. That being said, I could listen to John Lear for hours and drift down the rabbit hole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMJqhf-AKn4
Dave - Toronto
7alon
3rd September 2016, 04:30
Thanks for your thoughts :) I find it interesting how you can appreciate him whilst feeling deceived at the same time. When I say that, I don't mean anything bad by it, I mean that it actually fascinates me how differently we can think to one another. I lose interest in anybody that lies to me unless I feel I can compel them to reveal the truth.
Thanks again for sharing :)
Spellbound
3rd September 2016, 04:44
I don't think John is deliberately lying about anything. I think he believes everything he says. However, I don't think 100% of it is true.
Dave - Toronto
Sueanne47
3rd September 2016, 06:59
There is a 'pilots for 9/11 truth.org forum' some people are discrediting John Lear, but he gave them good replies :
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17842
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