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Atlas
5th September 2016, 12:03
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The people of the world should know what is going on.

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Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87765-Christmas-and-reality-in-a-divided-society&p=1032248&viewfull=1#post1032248

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 14:42
Senator Mike Gravel: Citizen Hearing Closing Thoughts

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Published on 5 May 2013
Senator Mike Gravel reflects on the week-long hearing and the amount
of information that has been presented to the committee of congressional
members and how it has made his views change over the week.

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US Senator Mike Gravel on UFO Cover-up at the Citizen Hearing

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Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 14:52
White House Covering up Galactic Federation of Light -Fmr Sen Mike Gravel speaks out

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Published on 18 Jul 2013


Fmr Sen Mike Gravel speaks out to the Mass Media on the Truth of Disclosure. - May 2013

Spellbound
5th September 2016, 15:00
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice. Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - Toronto

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 15:15
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm
us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's
(service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice.
Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans
for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.
Dave - Toronto



Those were my thoughts , but I think he did not want to bring it up ? as he was
told about mutilations and abductions at the hearing by Linda Moulton -Howe and
others I'm pretty sure if my memory is correct.

(edit)
Linda does tell them about mutilations in part one of the hearings in post
below....
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Senator Mike Gravel - Why Do We Need ET Secrecy?

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Published on 1 Nov 2015
Citizens Hearing on Disclosure - Senator Mike Gravel (AK) asks,
Why do we need this [ET] secrecy? Is this secrecy warranted?

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 15:22
Citizen Hearing on Disclosure Highlights Part 1 - Mac's UFO News (Special Edition)

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Published on 5 May 2013

The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure (April 29 - May 3, 2013) brought 40+ researchers
and government/agency witnesses to Washington DC to testify before six former
members of the U.S. Congress on events and evidence supporting the truth of an
extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race and a government policy to
embargo that truth. As seen on the Mac's UFO News Blog. For information
regarding the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure contact:

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 15:27
Citizen Hearing on Disclosure Highlights Part 2 - Mac's UFO News (Special Edition)

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Published on 10 May

Spellbound
5th September 2016, 15:38
Linda Moulton Howe will never admit to human mutilations (only cattle mutilations). I think she's been threatened not to pursue human mutilations.

Dave - Toronto

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 15:54
Linda Moulton Howe will never admit to human mutilations (only cattle
mutilations). I think she's been threatened not to pursue human mutilations.
Dave - Toronto

De ja vous ..........This conversation is familiar ....and you could be right ?

John Lear Alien Abductions and Human Mutilations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3JqglAPVs

Montana Sheriffs speak out on UFOs
interview with Montana sheriffs Keith Wolverton and Pete Howard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_hKWv45OY

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92904-Montana-Sheriffs-speak-out-on-UFOs&p=1093810&viewfull=1#post1093810
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RICHPLANET TV : UFOs & NATO Human Mutilation Cover Up
& 2015 UPDATE ....Some Strong content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E_67F87gpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZXuQOeq_1Q

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91062-Linda-Moulton-Howe-human-mutilations-by-ET-s&p=1072115&viewfull=1#post1072115

Spellbound
5th September 2016, 16:18
yes, Richard D Hall goes into human mutilations (as does Butch Witkowski). Interesting in the first Hall video above, he tells of Linda attributing the Brazil case as agent orange.

Dave - Toronto

Shannon
5th September 2016, 16:42
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice. Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - Toronto

Well, I don't think he is looking to cause any panic or fear. Let's look at it like this, if we want disclosure we are going to do have to do it. Like he said at the end, the power needs to be in the people's hands not the politicans. There's more evidence that we have an ET presence than there is that there is about a faction of ET that is eating or mutilating humans.
One thing at a time. Let's deal with the ET presence being disclosed and then we can get ourselves all crazy about dirty details. :)

Carmody
5th September 2016, 16:46
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice. Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - Toronto

It is very likely that the human race, as a group, can move to protecting the group from mutilation, abduction, eating, whatever, without going 'full retard genocidal fascist tribal' on other galactic races.

If we go full retard and whatnot, it is possible we might find ourselves being preemptively shut down and de-evolved via whatever means and ways necessary to get the job done.

Thus, IMO, the idea of human abduction and whatnot is probably more viciously held secret than other aspects of human/et involvement... as... in the end, the human race must learn of peaceful interaction and knowing, BEFORE the bad side comes out.

The elite of this world are trapped between a rock and a hardplace.

Their end is fully predictable and fated no matter the outcome of the present and possible scenarios. They have everything to lose. They fight a delaying game and the excuse used is that we are not ready for it. We have zero to lose and everything to gain. In that your actions are pre-fated and held in check solely via fears and desires.

They (elite hidden, etc) desire to be as far advanced in these technologies as is possible in order to safeguard their position. Their control of the human population with the population's consent (the reason they have to announce all things) creates the basis for non-intervention in human affairs. Also that some uniformity in human behavior and reaction ...is fundamentally required in any given analysis of any possible future scenario.

Since most galactic species are suspected of being more organized, tiered, controlled (self or whatnot) or even segregated into intelligence and purpose layers/levels....that such a thing might come to the human race, is not an immediate issue for an outside observer or group that desires galactic peace... as opposed to potential for the addition of another war-like group of non-uniform/splayed and unpredictable 'human' asshats.

We've got intelligent straightforward capable people here on this planet who can handle the advanced technology and ET integration..running all the way down to human forms that are so messed up and degraded that they'd shoot aliens and eat them, or worse, all while thumping the equivalent of simpleton's bibles.

It should be obvious that humanity is a sprawling mess, and the elite types in the know and inside the machine are definitely slowing things down.

The opening of this situation will never be top down, it must be a lateral mass shift into the state of knowing, as according to how humans function, it will never work any other way.

What this means is that if we don't individually get involved and contribute to fundamental change... as a mass act, it will never happen. We'll be torn into hive minded degraded and segregated intelligence and physical levels, or we'll be de-evolved en-masse.

Regardless of the nature of the transition, it will be messy, at best.

So roll you sleeves up and get out there, and kick ass, as..in the end..this is all there is. Just this motion and our lives and futures within it.

Disclosure will have to be forced form their living or cold dead grey hands, whatever way it happens..... but it's all on you, individually and collectively.

Shannon
5th September 2016, 16:57
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice. Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - Toronto

It is very likely that the human race, as a group, can move to protecting the group from mutilation, abduction, eating, whatever, without going 'full retard genocidal fascist tribal' on other galactic races.

If we go full retard and whatnot, it is possible we might find ourselves being preemptively shut down and de-evolved via whatever means and ways necessary to get the job done.

Thus, IMO, the idea of human abduction and whatnot is probably more viciously held secret than other aspects of human/et involvement... as... in the end, the human race must learn of peaceful interaction and knowing, BEFORE the bad side comes out.

The elite of this world are trapped between a rock and a hardplace.

Their end is fully predictable and fated no matter the outcome of the present and possible scenarios. They have everything to lose. They fight a delaying game and the excuse used is that we are not ready for it. We have zero to lose and everything to gain. In that your actions are pre-fated and held in check solely via fears and desires.

They (elite hidden, etc) desire to be as far advanced in these technologies as is possible in order to safeguard their position. Their control of the human population with the population's consent (the reason they have to announce all things) creates the basis for non-intervention in human affairs. Also that some uniformity in human behavior and reaction ...is fundamentally required in any given analysis of any possible future scenario.

Since most galactic species are suspected of being more organized, tiered, controlled (self or whatnot) or even segregated into intelligence and purpose layers/levels....that such a thing might come to the human race, is not an immediate issue for an outside observer or group that desires galactic peace... as opposed to potential for the addition of another war-like group of non-uniform/splayed and unpredictable 'human' asshats.

We've got intelligent straightforward capable people here on this planet who can handle the advanced technology and ET integration..running all the way down to human forms that are so messed up and degraded that they'd shoot aliens and eat them, or worse, all while thumping the equivalent of simpleton's bibles.

It should be obvious that humanity is a sprawling mess, and the elite types in the know and inside the machine are definitely slowing things down.

The opening of this situation will never be top down, it must be a lateral mass shift into the state of knowing, as according to how humans function, it will never work any other way.

What this means is that if we don't individually get involved and contribute to fundamental change... as a mass act, it will never happen. We'll be torn into hive minded degraded and segregated intelligence and physical levels, or we'll be de-evolved en-masse.

Regardless of the nature of the transition, it will be messy, at best.

So roll you sleeves up and get out there, and kick ass, as..in the end..this is all there is. Just this motion and our lives and futures within it.

Disclosure will have to be forced form their living or cold dead grey hands, whatever way it happens..... but it's all on you, individually and collectively.


Great post, carmody ...

I couldn't resist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q

lake
5th September 2016, 17:07
Same as that Shannon....this made me spit my beer out laughing


It is very likely that the human race, as a group, can move to protecting the group from mutilation, abduction, eating, whatever, without going 'full retard genocidal fascist tribal' on other galactic races.


Good post

Spellbound
5th September 2016, 17:13
I disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent ET's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all ET's play nice. Some ET's mutilate humans....some ET's eat humans....some ET's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - Toronto

Well, I don't think he is looking to cause any panic or fear. Let's look at it like this, if we want disclosure we are going to do have to do it. Like he said at the end, the power needs to be in the people's hands not the politicans. There's more evidence that we have an ET presence than there is that there is about a faction of ET that is eating or mutilating humans.
One thing at a time. Let's deal with the ET presence being disclosed and then we can get ourselves all crazy about dirty details. :)

Point noted. Just sayin'.....it ain't all warm and fuzzy. But yes, one step at a time.

Dave - Toronto

onawah
5th September 2016, 17:21
Building a little more on what Carmody wrote, some thoughts from Jon Rappaport:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/09/03/old-life-new-life-entrances-and-exits-4/

Old life, new life: entrances and exits
by Jon Rappoport
September 3, 2016
Dreams come and go. Some are forgotten, others remain. The practical side says, "You must do this, you must do that," but the dreams that hold on say something else:

You can leave an old life and begin a new one.

This is more than hope. It's a kind of vision composed of past moments in which the cup of joy is filled to the brim.

Nothing in this universe can wipe out those memories forever.

They come back.

And when they do, they bring energy, belief, and confidence.

A person can refuse to see the suggestions and the implications, he can pretend he's merely floating in a brief reverie, and he can then trample on through the garden and continue his way to a bleak outpost. But still he doesn't entirely forget.

Because he doesn't want to.

The memories are distillations of the best of the past, and they point to a new future.

The shape of that future may be vague, but the emotions and sensations are vivid.

These feelings can rise again, if one can discover what actions will recover them. Actions, which taken together, create the substance of the years ahead.

For a baby learning what this world is, there is no tangible past. His entire thrust is discovering delight. Which reminds us that the psyche, the spirit, wants joy, naturally---and if unimpeded, will find it. Hour by hour, day by day.

Only much later, when the baby has "grown up," does he realize he has left something behind.

Then, unfortunately, he comes to believe he can't go back. He comes to believe that some rigid set of principles should be his North Star: through this compass setting, the best of what is possible will be his, given that limits are more important than possibilities.

But every human knows, in a part of himself that is often shielded from sight, that possibilities ring more true than limits.

When a small child paints a picture, no matter what it looks like, he can tell you a story about it. And he invests this story with a vision that is more powerful, in some mysterious way, than all of society.

Centuries from now, when historians look back on this time, no matter what they find, they will still need this lesson. They will need to know that in the soul of every person, there are colors of visions which, when acted upon, make new lives, new delight, joy, ecstasy. And the alternative is always less.

The simple compounding of these lessers, without the need for mathematical sophistication, explains the root cause of the decline of civilizations.

Cidersomerset
5th September 2016, 17:31
I should point I think there are all sorts of life out there from light beings
to '50 shades of Greys ' and 101 species in between so by definition
there must be 'good bad and the ugly '.....Sorry about the clichés ...LOL

So from Steven Greer to John Lear there is an awful lot of speculation
going on which drives my basic questions what is the meaning of life ?
and are we alone ? etc , etc.....

http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/08aug/images/promoasmith.jpg

ghostrider
5th September 2016, 18:38
Yes, for 13,500 years they have been watching us ... four groups , one is permanently based here , one is a future us , one is from 5 light years years away from a planet called Akart with a population of 23 billion a planet the size of earth...the fourth group is the plejaen federation ... they have an extensive history recorded about us , as our forefathers are their forefathers, they offered open contact with the Carter administration in 1979 , it was turned down ... you can read the letter sent at theyfly.com just type 1979 letter in the search box ...

boja
6th September 2016, 07:38
Several valid points have been raised in this thread.
Each one of us here has our own perspective on things.
Sen. Gravel's interview in the original post sums up the situation very well.

A minor point where he COULD be wrong is that SOME ETs may not have travelled from afar, and may be residing here on Earth, either underground or under the sea or even interdimensionally. Nevertheless, their technology is much superior to ours.
Another point he made was that the recent White House statement was obviously complete CRAP - spot on !

Regarding politicians, we have (or had) Sen. Gravel in USA, Hon. Paul Hellyer in Canada, Rauni Meena Kilde in Finland, and PM. Medvedev in Russia, to name a few,
who all are aware of the subject and are speaking out about it.

Sadly, many of the population are just not paying attention.
I know someone who (when I showed them how obvious it was with all the military and high level witnesses at Rendlesham and Malmstrom AFB etc),
quite openly admitted "Don't tell me any more, I can't handle it" - then went back to watching their "soap operas" & "reality TV" ???????

Sunny-side-up
6th September 2016, 16:25
A minor point where he COULD be wrong is that SOME ETs may not have travelled from afar, and may be residing here on Earth, either underground or under the sea or even interdimensionally
Why do you think that boja
The small greys to my knowledge have been here thousands of years and where known as the odd jobbing caretakers (drones) part job to keep us from finding installed equipment.


Sadly, many of the population are just not paying attention.
I know someone who (when I showed them how obvious it was with all the military and high level witnesses at Rendlesham and Malmstrom AFB etc),
quite openly admitted "Don't tell me any more, I can't handle it" - then went back to watching their "soap operas" & "reality TV" ???????

Yup for sure, I come up against, and see that response every day.
Those who just won't or cant handle it are not raising their frequency's and staying in the paddock :(
Not saying they couldn't raise their frequency's though, they are held in the paddock under hypnoses and mass mind control, they haven't had the life experience to open their eyes/mind yet

Kindred
6th September 2016, 17:17
"They" actually refers to many benevolent races and some malevolent races. The Primary benevolent race has been Watching Earth for a VERY long time - Millions of years - and they have tried to help but Universal Law prevents overt interference.

In some places, they are known as "The Watchers", but they've been 'assigned' various names throughout Earth's history.

http://www.lanuovaumanita.net/files/tp-typeset.pdf

I'll also suggest checking out the Fatima and Garabandal apparitions.

And then there's this site: http://space.galactic.to/linkmap.html

In Unity, Peace and Love

For All There IS, in All of Creation, is LOVE

mkscarola
7th September 2016, 01:33
i disagree that there is no reason for panic or fear....or that if they wanted to harm us that they would have done it by now. There most certainly are malevolent et's (service to self) who are most certainly harming humans. Not all et's play nice. Some et's mutilate humans....some et's eat humans....some et's abduct humans for experiments. Unfortunately, that side of things is swept under the rug.

Dave - toronto

it is very likely that the human race, as a group, can move to protecting the group from mutilation, abduction, eating, whatever, without going 'full retard genocidal fascist tribal' on other galactic races.

If we go full retard and whatnot, it is possible we might find ourselves being preemptively shut down and de-evolved via whatever means and ways necessary to get the job done.

Thus, imo, the idea of human abduction and whatnot is probably more viciously held secret than other aspects of human/et involvement... As... In the end, the human race must learn of peaceful interaction and knowing, before the bad side comes out.

The elite of this world are trapped between a rock and a hardplace.

Their end is fully predictable and fated no matter the outcome of the present and possible scenarios. They have everything to lose. They fight a delaying game and the excuse used is that we are not ready for it. We have zero to lose and everything to gain. In that your actions are pre-fated and held in check solely via fears and desires.

They (elite hidden, etc) desire to be as far advanced in these technologies as is possible in order to safeguard their position. Their control of the human population with the population's consent (the reason they have to announce all things) creates the basis for non-intervention in human affairs. Also that some uniformity in human behavior and reaction ...is fundamentally required in any given analysis of any possible future scenario.

Since most galactic species are suspected of being more organized, tiered, controlled (self or whatnot) or even segregated into intelligence and purpose layers/levels....that such a thing might come to the human race, is not an immediate issue for an outside observer or group that desires galactic peace... As opposed to potential for the addition of another war-like group of non-uniform/splayed and unpredictable 'human' asshats.

We've got intelligent straightforward capable people here on this planet who can handle the advanced technology and et integration..running all the way down to human forms that are so messed up and degraded that they'd shoot aliens and eat them, or worse, all while thumping the equivalent of simpleton's bibles.

It should be obvious that humanity is a sprawling mess, and the elite types in the know and inside the machine are definitely slowing things down.

The opening of this situation will never be top down, it must be a lateral mass shift into the state of knowing, as according to how humans function, it will never work any other way.

What this means is that if we don't individually get involved and contribute to fundamental change... As a mass act, it will never happen. We'll be torn into hive minded degraded and segregated intelligence and physical levels, or we'll be de-evolved en-masse.

Regardless of the nature of the transition, it will be messy, at best.

So roll you sleeves up and get out there, and kick ass, as..in the end..this is all there is. Just this motion and our lives and futures within it.

Disclosure will have to be forced form their living or cold dead grey hands, whatever way it happens..... But it's all on you, individually and collectively.



this is by far the greatest post on project avalon

Lifebringer
7th September 2016, 10:32
I'm about to try a "grassroots" media outlet that's not afraid to ask or publish/televise this info. I don't know how I forgot about them, but if you hear it on MSM within the next few days, just know Lifebringer is "linking virally and spreading the word to ask questions in this century about the visitors. NOT to let up and NOT to be rediculed. I'm gonna keep the site on the down low for now, as many have been killed trying, and we've not as reputable a site as this one in grassroots to the point where the site's "word is bond/truthful/researched."
Wish me luck? Nah, wish "us" luck on revealing what was hidden by sounding the alarm, or tweaking one's curiosity strings.

mojo
7th September 2016, 21:50
Just imagine there are some highly evolved entities that are still unknown to tptb? Sometimes the veil they hide behind becomes a little more transparent and incredible diversity of so called life is observed, even challenging our idea of what living organism means... And watching throughout countless centuries. Ancient cultures spoke of them...

Cidersomerset
8th September 2016, 12:53
Bump ~........Richard is sharing some of personal experience told to him...V Good Inter.

Richard Dolan - Are ET's Walking Among Us Right Now? (FULL INTERVIEW - Exclusive!)

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Published on 9 Aug 2016
Listen to this exclusive episode as UFO researcher and historian
Richard Dolan discusses several individual accounts of ET encounters
that have a strange human dimension!

Justplain
12th September 2016, 00:01
I am not sure that putting caution aside with disclosure is necessarily a good thing. The link below is to a vid on the smersh kgb book on aliens, in which a good percentage of them are not benevolent. Given the complexity of the situation, and the dangers involved, and the ongoing abuses earth humans are subject to, in forcing disclosure it is a very good idea that we find ways to communicate the whole picture of whats going on, for the benefit of developing a mature response to the enormous problem that the alien presence here represents.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xenkCgf2860

Atlas
12th September 2016, 00:19
Alien Hoax Invasion - Project Blue Beam, Uniting the Planet under an Alien Deception
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Bill Ryan
4th October 2016, 19:35
Linda Moulton Howe will never admit to human mutilations (only cattle mutilations). I think she's been threatened not to pursue human mutilations.


In this recent (Sept 2016) interview, starting at 1:30:43, Linda discusses human mutilation in quite some detail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG8KAvWIrJE

Shannon
4th October 2016, 21:07
Linda Moulton Howe will never admit to human mutilations (only cattle mutilations). I think she's been threatened not to pursue human mutilations.


In this recent (Sept 2016) interview, starting at 1:30:43, Linda discusses human mutilation in quite some detail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG8KAvWIrJE


She's is all class. I wouldn't have commented on the way the pictures were presented either. She's a true journalist with integrity and some may have her pegged as some holly hobby nancy Drew but I have no doubt she has seen evidence most would faint on the spot.

Basically she saying is she needs to see evidence of it not a crime scene photo of woman that was presented in such a fashion.