Animal flashes in and out of UFO video

[RunningDeer]

What caught my eye is @ 1:01 (https://youtu.be/Tndoplu2ZRg?t=1m1s). There’s an animal that flashed in and out. The passing clouds seems be congruent. It could just be how the film was sliced together.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/animal_zpsisswx3kv.GIF

OVNI - UFO filmed by Zantiago in Piriapolis Uruguay
Tndoplu2ZRg

Published on Sep 7, 2016
Filmed by a student, Zantiago on 04SEP2016 in the sea port of Piriapolis Uruguay.

[Olam]

Its a time lapse, with one frame every few seconds, so the cat was caught one one frame and moved in and out when the camera was not filming..

[mojo]

very interesting video, did you notice there were reflections above it (UFO)?

[RunningDeer]

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[EFO]

@RunningDeer
Amazing low altitude EFO and very long compared with the land masses in the distance.About the cat,I don't what to say.Cool footage!

@mojo
I noticed the reflections above the EFO even in the no clouds zones,but could be a reflection of camera's lens of the EFO like in my this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91166-UFO-drops-orb-over-former-alma-mater...&p=1073822&viewfull=1#post1073822) (2nd and 3rd photos) on mojo's thread.

[mojo]

what would cause it to be above unless it is reflecting on something behind on a glass surface?

[EFO]

@mojo

Could be an hypothesis,why not?

What if the craft have ionized the zone above it?Or a sort of static electricity?

[mojo]

... still dont understand how the true image centered between a reflection top and bottom could be made. Maybe an acrylic dome covers the camera? Where are all the prognosticators on the forum? lol...

[EFO]

@mojo

Watching a documentary about Jonathan Reed it hit me an other question:Where is the reflection of the above zone (in the clouds) in the water as is seen of the object reflecting in the water - reflection of reflection-?

IMHO if there was an acrylic dome on the camera it would reflect and other lights,especially from the pier.

Regarding your second question,perhaps they are tired and they are sleeping :) but we are waiting them to enlightening us as usual.

[DeDukshyn]

I think it's a boat (with lights) slowly moving through the scene on the water :) If you look closely you can see the waves it makes. The camera settings just made it look that way, in a similar way it caused a "cat" anomaly. It's a night scene so shutter is opened for a very extended amount of time, and it is a timelapse made of a number of images taken at those settings. The open shutter length has the effect of disregarding movement - the cat sat still for some time, the boat moved continuously - thus one got recorded and the other did not (except the boat's lights which cast enough photons to register on the cameras CCD even at very low light). The background is always there or slow changing so it gets picked up well. This is how you do night or evening photography -- with a long open shutter - but you may get these weird artifacts if things move in front of the camera. :)

I do camera timelapse and am semi-pro photographer / videographer.

[RunningDeer]

Here's a question and a follow-up comment from the one that uploaded the video, PrognatusSeptem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tndoplu2ZRg).

Question: So, this is a time-lapsed video recording a much slower lighted object than what we're viewing? I'd like to see it in real time, but it's interesting!

PrognatusSeptem: this is a timelapse taken by a student here in Uruguay. whatever is illuminated was moving quite slowly which begs many questions. i viewed the clip very closely and have to say that I do not think it is a solid (boat) object. the illumination of the water is astounding. you can always view the original clip portion in slow-mo to get a better idea. thanks for your comment and viewing.


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There are waves in the water @ 57 seconds (https://youtu.be/Tndoplu2ZRg?t=57s), but I don’t see waves in the water coming from the light source.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/waves_zpsp5agcows.GIF

This maybe noteworthy, there’s a pattern change in 7 of the 26 frames. I’ve slowed it down.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/pattern-change-enlarged_zpsetkpv5bz.GIF


Five frames blown up.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/blown-up_zpsn2dyjadh.GIF

[DeDukshyn]

It's a sailboat with two lights on the mast (sail down) :) Here's a further analysis ...

Look at this screen grab of a night timelapse on the street -- this example has plenty of light so the shutter isn't open as long but it still works if you extrapolate the effect a little ...

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There is a bus directly in half of this frame but because the shutter is open you can only see the lights that are on the side of the bus - these show up as moving light streaks, but in the frame above a "bus" cannot be seen, but it's lights can ... and they show up as moving streaks.

Here is the same video 1 frame later ... as the bus moves away from the camera and slows to the stop sign it takes up more time in the frame and then begins to "materialize" - you can now see the bus shape, but the lights are still rather just streaks.

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And here is the video so you all can practice pausing at various spots and watch things be invisible or visible based on their rate of speed. Note that lights cast enough photons that they can quickly saturate a slow shutter, and thus they show up as streaks. Pause at all various points in the video, then note the exact same type of camera effects in the OP video. There are some difference between the videos though - the OP's video framerate is about 1 per minute, the video I posted above is about 30 frames per second - low speed to catch slow moving things like sunset, clouds, etc. and the higher rate captures a busy street. Long shutter on both due to night scene, but much longer on the OP video - long enough to make a slow sailboat show up as streaks.

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The object in the OP video is floating on the water with a reflection that extends from the bottom most streak. If it were above the water, this streak and the reflection would not connect ... but they do. Special thanks to Paula's screen grab above that really shows this :)

I hope that makes sense ... :)

[RunningDeer]

I hope that makes sense ... :)
Yes, that does make sense. Thanks, Mike. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/happy0158_zpsunvwduof.GIF The visuals really helped.

[mojo]

if you follow the blur it goes right off the screen on the left, it could be something really close to the camera like an antenna on a vehicle?

[RunningDeer]

if you follow the blur it goes right off the screen on the left, it could be something really close to the camera like an antenna on a vehicle?

I didn't catch it, Mojo. Time for me to let all this go. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/fish-gold_zpsa94cuw08.GIF


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[EFO]

RunningDeer made a very good job with gif images.It helps a lot for the topic to clarify in a way this video.
mojo have an impressive experience with EFOs.
DeDukshyn as a semi-pro photographer gave a good explanations how to take a evening/night photo and how to make a time lapse photo.

If there was a boat,according to SOLAS,it would have a red light on the top of the mast to be easily recognized by low altitude flying air crafts.In the video as well as in RunningDeer's gifs there is no red light above on any,reflected or not,white light.
More than that in the second gif,3rd,4th and 5th frames shows a sort of bump made by the "light" and is reflected different in the sky.Sea doesn't made so short waves able to move a ship/boat in such a manner on a such short distance.

[RunningDeer]

Cognitive dissonance. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/im-ok_zpsfmqbteib.GIF This OBG song popped in my head. Good points, tooo, EFO.


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[DeDukshyn]

if you follow the blur it goes right off the screen on the left, it could be something really close to the camera like an antenna on a vehicle?

There is water all the way to the left - the boat moves through the water - the water continues between the land from where the photos where taken and the far piece of land - like a channel.

[DeDukshyn]

RunningDeer made a very good job with gif images.It helps a lot for the topic to clarify in a way this video.
mojo have an impressive experience with EFOs.
DeDukshyn as a semi-pro photographer gave a good explanations how to take a evening/night photo and how to make a time lapse photo.

If there was a boat,according to SOLAS,it would have a red light on the top of the mast to be easily recognized by low altitude flying air crafts.In the video as well as in RunningDeer's gifs there is no red light above on any,reflected or not,white light.
More than that in the second gif,3rd,4th and 5th frames shows a sort of bump made by the "light" and is reflected different in the sky.Sea doesn't made so short waves able to move a ship/boat in such a manner on a such short distance.

Whoever "SOLAS" is he doesn't know much about boat lighting, conducting internet searches for boat light regulations, or is lying. The only coloured lights required on pleasure boat under 65 feet are the standard red/green - starboard / port lights. So in the OP video we should see that the lights on the boat (not the mast) should be slightly greenish or blue -- and it is, while the mast light is white, as required by boat lighting standards, and the boat itself is casting yellowish lights out of it's cabin that looks also like a wide streak; (look at the original video, not Paula's screens (but if she's bored maybe she could clip one more from the original unzoomed part of the clip and enhance the colours for us :)) Do note though I have a very high end monitor and can see colour contrasts not able to be seen on cheap monitors), just like a boat would have. The red light would be hidden - on the other side.

http://www.boatus.org/guide/navigation_16.html
http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/content/general/4_2_b.htm

Keep note that in very low light conditions colours tend to get washed out hence the blue/green port light is a bit faint to see the colour, but is clearly more green/blue than the other lights on the boat.

If you took the details I laid out of how timelapse and slow shutter effects video, and thought how it might apply further than being instructions, you would see the very clear connection to this video, and the effects you see in this video.

[EFO]

Whoever "SOLAS" is he doesn't know much about boat lighting, conducting internet searches for boat light regulations, or is lying.

"Safety Of Life At Sea" and is also COLREGs "Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea" as well as many other maritime regulations in force on national and international waters.Standard means how a vessel is equipped by the manufacturer or shipyard,but is mandatory for every ship to have a red continuous or intermittent red light on its highest point above the water. If the owner of the vessel want or not to equip its vessel according to regulations in force is its decision how will handle the situation in case of an accident.

From your first link:

Welcome to the Boating Safety Study Guide Pages

The information found in these pages was developed by the BoatU.S. Foundation in partnership with the National Safe Boating Council, and many boating professionals. The information is considered to be current and accurate. As many boating situations can be handled differently, the information found in these pages may not be consistent with other boating guides.
You are required to display the appropriate lights at night or during times of reduced visibility.
From your second link:

The U.S. Inland Rules apply inside the demarcation lines at the entrances to inlets, bays, rivers, etc. The demarcation lines are shown on coastal charts as magenta dashed lines. Once outside of the demarcation lines, International Rules apply.

Does the US Coast Guard have jurisdiction over the sea port of Piriapolis from Uruguay?What about BoatU.S. Foundation in partnership with the National Safe Boating Council, and many boating professionals?

Let's try to stay on topic instead try disentangling the Gordian knot.

[DeDukshyn]

Whoever "SOLAS" is he doesn't know much about boat lighting, conducting internet searches for boat light regulations, or is lying.

"Safety Of Life At Sea" and is also COLREGs "Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea" as well as many other maritime regulations in force on national and international waters.Standard means how a vessel is equipped by the manufacturer or shipyard,but is mandatory for every ship to have a red continuous or intermittent red light on its highest point above the water. If the owner of the vessel want or not to equip its vessel according to regulations in force is its decision how will handle the situation in case of an accident.

From your first link:

Welcome to the Boating Safety Study Guide Pages

The information found in these pages was developed by the BoatU.S. Foundation in partnership with the National Safe Boating Council, and many boating professionals. The information is considered to be current and accurate. As many boating situations can be handled differently, the information found in these pages may not be consistent with other boating guides.
You are required to display the appropriate lights at night or during times of reduced visibility.
From your second link:

The U.S. Inland Rules apply inside the demarcation lines at the entrances to inlets, bays, rivers, etc. The demarcation lines are shown on coastal charts as magenta dashed lines. Once outside of the demarcation lines, International Rules apply.

Does the US Coast Guard have jurisdiction over the sea port of Piriapolis from Uruguay?What about BoatU.S. Foundation in partnership with the National Safe Boating Council, and many boating professionals?

Let's try to stay on topic instead try disentangling the Gordian knot.

Prove me otherwise. Till then, it's a boat. :) The exact camera settings would cause a boat to appear the way it does, the boat moves at the speed and consistent pace expected of a small - med sailboat, with the sail down, running on small engine power. The lighting scheme is consistent with all US standards for boating, which I believe are general international standards - you offering a speculation that they are not, without evidence, does not forward the discussion. The broad part of the streak in size and colour would be consistent with cabin lights, while the streak light above that would be consistent with a port light and the light above that would be consistent with a white mast light. The reflection on the water from the cabin lights is consistent with with an object being ON the water, not the air, like a boat. Everything is 100% consistent with the craft being a boat, and I have presented tonnes of verifiable evidence. I do know of another photographer on the forum I could invite to this thread to give their opinion as well - with confidence they will discover the same as I did.

Since the two links I posted on boat lighting regulations for small pleasure craft seem in stark contradiction with "SOLAS" "standards" (which you actually presented no evidence for - I looked and could not find their regulations on boat lights), I think it is safe to assume that at very least, in non-international waters, their "standards" DO NOT APPLY - I can verify for Canada as well. What are the boating regulations in Uruguay? And clearly, this was not recorded in international waters. We also have to consider that this is a small pleasure craft, and appears be following lighting conventions that I have provided from USA for that type of craft, which matches Canada's exactly, and I assume is relatively standard across countries (until shown otherwise).

Is topic proving this is UFO and not questioning the "fact" that it absolutely is one, or is topic finding the truth? :) Oh wait, topic was about a cat ... :)

It's still a boat and always will be :) Think about it, that time lapse likely covered about 15-20 minutes. No one else saw this massive UFO slowly hovering across the sky on a busy port area for 20+ minutes? Nothing about trying to prove this is a UFO adds up, yet everything proving it is not, does add up and is cross supportive (camera settings causing effects, and all the other consistencies I laid out above all support "boat". :)

You don't have to believe me though, there's no requirement for that. :)

[mojo]

This was a good learning experience for us at least for me and not an effort in futility to analyze something as a group. When first looking it seemed impressive but after all the reviews it falls into something more of earthly origin...cheers and ty

[EFO]

@DeDukshyn

I will no longer discuss in contradiction with you on this thread and as I said before you gave very good POVs regarding imagery.

mojo has pointed very well in his last post

This was a good learning experience for us at least for me and not an effort in futility to analyze something as a group. When first looking it seemed impressive but after all the reviews it falls into something more of earthly origin...cheers and ty

mojo's prophecy from two day ago has fulfilled. :) D#}n! :)