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Spellbound
10th September 2016, 19:39
I was recently turned on to Ted Gunderson from a friend and must admit, I've become rather intrigued here. Gunderson, a retired former Los Angeles bureau chief of the FBI, has quite a few videos / presentations where he exposes the inner workings of the FBI/CIA/various other gov't alphabetical names....black ops....satanism within the USA (and worldwide)...pedophilia (USA and worldwide)...etc. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago from cancer rather suddenly (I'm unsure if TPTB can give a person cancer to kill them....I've often wondered the same thing about Jack Ruby when he wanted to talk). Anyways, I'm curious to know what Avalonians think about Gunderson. Was he the real deal and spilling the real beans....was he taken out by TPTB??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_jWWIS_hE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DSUxq8Yr0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgPHsLEGuE

Dave - Toronto

Atlas
10th September 2016, 22:30
Related threads:


projectavalon.net/Former-FBI-Chief-Ted-Gunderson-Says-Chemtrail-Death-Dumps-Must-Be-Stopped (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11514-Former-FBI-Chief-Ted-Gunderson-Says-Chemtrail-Death-Dumps-Must-Be-Stopped)
projectavalon.net/Ted-Gunderson-Former-FBI-Chief-Most-Terror-Attacks-Are-Committed-By-Our-CIA-FBI (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22494-Ted-Gunderson-Former-FBI-Chief-Most-Terror-Attacks-Are-Committed-By-Our-CIA-FBI)
projectavalon.net/Former-FBI-Chief-Ted-Gunderson-Says-Chemtrail-Death-Dumps-Must-Be-Stopped (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25749-Former-FBI-Chief-Ted-Gunderson-Says-Chemtrail-Death-Dumps-Must-Be-Stopped)
projectavalon.net/Ted-L.-Gunderson-Passed-Away-on-Sunday-July-31-2011-at-Age-82 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26700-Ted-L.-Gunderson-Passed-Away-on-Sunday-July-31-2011-at-Age-82)
projectavalon.net/Ted-Gunderson-WhistleBlower-FBI-veteran-tells-all-from-NWO (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60993-Ted-Gunderson-WhistleBlower-FBI-veteran-tells-all-from-NWO)

Yetti
11th September 2016, 00:09
what the regular folk as one could do about ? besides to spread the new,,,, the ones with the power to do anything , are in bed w/ the bastards..

Satori
11th September 2016, 00:59
I listened to and read of and about Ted Gunderson more than ten years ago. Like most I was intrigued (and appalled) but what he was reporting so matter of factually and with apparent detail. Being an FBI agent gave him a certain credibility in the eyes of many, and made him suspect in the eyes of others. If what he said is true we are in a world of **** on that score alone. However, what he was saying, as is often the case with others as well, was hearsay and often hearsay upon hearsay. Hearsay is typically unreliable. Double or triple hearsay is most likely if not always unreliable. Not necessarily because the declarant/speaker is lying, but because details and facts get lost in translation and communication from the first source to the second source and then to the person who is relaying what so-and-so said, that another so-and-so then told the person who you are listening to or reading of or about. It's very difficult to say if Gunderson was the real deal or a shill. At least for me it is. And that is part of the control-the-debate paradigm that the powers-that-be use to keep us divided and conquered. If we never agree on what the details are and thus what the problem is, we will never become unified to do anything about our perceived but inchoate problems.

Spellbound
11th September 2016, 01:04
I listened to and read of and about Ted Gunderson more than ten years ago. Like most I was intrigued (and appalled) but what he was reporting so matter of factually and with apparent detail. Being an FBI agent gave him a certain credibility in the eyes of many, and made him suspect in the eyes of others. If what he said is true we are in a world of **** on that score alone. However, what he was saying, as is often the case with others as well, was hearsay and often hearsay upon hearsay. Hearsay is typically unreliable. Double or triple hearsay is most likely if not always unreliable. Not necessarily because the declarant/speaker is lying, but because details and facts get lost in translation and communication from the first source to the second source and then to the person who is relaying what so-and-so said, that another so-and-so then told the person who you are listening to or reading of or about. It's very difficult to say if Gunderson was the real deal or a shill. At least for me it is. And that is part of the control-the-debate paradigm that the powers-that-be use to keep us divided and conquered. If we never agree on what the details are and thus what the problem is, we will never become unified to do anything about our perceived but inchoate problems.

Hi Satori, thx for your thoughts. I must say, on the subject of satanism in the USA, Gunderson had extensive 1st hand knowledge having worked on several cases thereby gaining the understanding that there is a vast network of satanists here in N. America as well as the world as a whole.

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound
11th September 2016, 02:32
Question - Is it possible for TPTB (in any regard) to poison a person thereby giving them cancer to shut them up?? There have been a few so called whistle blowers who suddenly came down with cancer and died shortly thereafter. Is it physically possible to do this?? Can cancer be forced upon someone??

Dave - Toronto

Domp4547
11th September 2016, 02:54
There was a smear campaign against him, stating that he was some sort of practicing satanist.
Obviously it's total garbage. How could a man of his degree exposing the nasty corrupt system be apart of it?
I was a member of other forums online and any time a Ted forum came up, if would be flooded with troll posts spewing disinformation. The powers that be knew he was a dangerous man exposing the deepest layers of this conspiracy.
Thanks to Ted for all of his hard work, May he rest in peace

boutreality
13th September 2016, 17:32
what the regular folk as one could do about ? besides to spread the new,,,, the ones with the power to do anything , are in bed w/ the bastards..

Engage a personal discipline, get familiar with your own physiologic capacity to dwell in stillness and draw upon your own power. The actual mechanism keeping man from our potential can be known, they are not meant o be discovered. Knowing them is a step in the right direction, fitting them into the context of their global power structure is helpful but will do little to free the individual. Even if it's simply meditation avoiding any colored light/astral plane/OBE/chakra system- it helps.

Otherwise the fact that 95% of the world (probably more) are basically decent people that want nothing more than the best for themselves and those they know is encouraging.

Check out the info in my Nazis/NWO/New Age thread and if interested my threads that can be accessed I that thread- a over-arching paradigm is communicated. Everyone doing their best based on their own knowledge and skill set is required, recognizing that an orchestrated effort is continually working against our ability to accomplish this is important as well; but I feel that has been proven.

-I know that especially the last bit sounded like sentimental drivel but there is value in the statement. Anyway check the link if you haven't already and would like to give the info consideration.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92604-NAZIS-NWO-the-NEW-AGE

Was it Gunderson that said, "They (Owner in the network) call their life (as slaves) the "freedom train" and tell them that the freedom train ends when they are killed"?

I think it's possible that the system is so sick that they tell sex slave that their life being trafficked and serving as slaves is called "the freedom train". I've found that in some cases, where manned positions are required in the inter-dimesnional/out-of-phase/and space based control system that people completely broken and forced in to a condition of perpetual servitude are used to fill those posts, which would give a different meaning to the term.