Hillary collapses at 9-11 ceremony [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 15:04

Hillary does have an ambulance as part of her travel cade , but it would be to
conspicuous at an event like this.....

BREAKING: Hillary Clinton left 9/11 memorial ceremony in New York after medical episode 11.09.2016

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Published on 11 Sep 2016

Hillary Clinton has left a 9/11 ceremony early after she reportedly suffered from a
medical episode and faintedAccording to eyewitnesses, Hillary Clinton started to
leave early when she stumbled off the curb and her knees buckled.
Clinton had to be helped into the van by her protective detail and lost a shoe during
her episode.Sources also confirmed with the journalist that she was clearly having
some sort of medical episode.Her current location and condition are not known at
this time.

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Carmody

11th September 2016, 15:18

So what we're saying here.... is that all oligarchial dark channel pressure is to be on Mike Pence, as trump might get JFK'd after the election so as to provide for a false flag.

And Mike can step in and be the next Lyndon Johnson, but totally blocked off, and groomed and controlled.

And that is probably a scenario that the Oligarchy is working hard on trying to set into place.

As it may be the only game, in their mind, that they've got... which they might be able to run with.

Watch for it.

mgray

11th September 2016, 15:22

Clinton campaign says HRC became overheated at 9-11 event. NYC weather is 75 degrees and overcast.

She was taken to her daughter's apartment and is said to be resting comfortably.

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 15:22

I just looked at the BBC ,CNN ,ABC ,CBS , RT , France 24 , channel 4 and the
first with a report I can find is Fox . Others probably have it on their web pages. No
official comment from her team yet.

Report: Clinton has 'medical episode' at 9/11 ceremony

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
Democratic candidate leaves Ground Zero earlier than expected

norman

11th September 2016, 15:24

According to , wait for it ( drum roll ), Ben Fullford, her backers have decided not to shoe-horn her into the Whitehouse after all.

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 15:30

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 15:38

Its O'kay folks she just over heated....What is amusing is its the CIA NN news
covering the defence , while the Trump Fox supporters were first with the
the report. I just went through all the mainstream U'tube news channels
again and still no reports.....Looks like good cop bad cop reporting to me..LOL

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton left the 9/11 commemoration ceremony early after she
felt overheated and went to her daughter's apartment, the Clinton campaign said

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Hillary Clinton 'felt unwell' at 9/11 ceremony
11 minutes ago

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US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton felt unwell at a 9/11 ceremony
in New York but is now better, her campaign says.

She had "felt overheated so departed to go to her daughter's apartment", the
campaign said.

read more..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37332106

mgray

11th September 2016, 15:48

Joe Biden has already sh!t, showered and shaved and is waiting by the phone.

sunwings

11th September 2016, 16:22

She told waiting reporters: 'I'm feeling great, it's a beautiful day in New York'.

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Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 16:42

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Was Hillarys clone malfunctioning again.......:confused:

What's up with Hilary Clinton? Clone Malfunction?

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CNN : Clinton News Network ...Damage control team for her comments on Trump supporters.

Campaign ceasefire for 9/11? Yes, but not for long.

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
It wasn't politics as usual as the Clinton and Trump campaigns went quiet on 9/11.
The 'Inside Politics' panel weighs in on how long that will last.

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mojo

11th September 2016, 17:11

This is definitely serious. Also she needs a medical check to let the American people know shes even capable of the office. In a way its a nicer way out if she wished rather than the true corruption hanging over her.

TargeT

11th September 2016, 17:35

She told waiting reporters: 'I'm feeling great, it's a beautiful day in New York'.

flZeHc-jKtw

yeah... that's pretty bad.

sheme

11th September 2016, 17:36

The right side of her face looked a little drooped perhaps she has had a stroke?

bearcow

11th September 2016, 17:54

the footage is undeniable, this is definitely something that will have people who believe the mainstream media think twice about Hillary's health.

Chester

11th September 2016, 18:20

She told waiting reporters: 'I'm feeling great, it's a beautiful day in New York'.

flZeHc-jKtw

This clearly looks really bad. How long can the democrats and their media sycophants avoid and deflect reality?

Spellbound

11th September 2016, 18:28

The US gov't has been avoiding and deflecting reality for decades. Nothing new there.

Dave - Toronto

AutumnW

11th September 2016, 18:29

I saw that flick where her head bobbed uncontrollably. Very strange. She could be seizing up from stress alone. Julian Assange, hovering in the background, with a new data dump, can't be good for her nerves, either. A 75 degree day isn't responsible.

Bill Ryan

11th September 2016, 18:42

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Another short clip of exactly the same scene, shot with a smartphone. (Yes, looks bad: it almost seems as if she was forced into the vehicle)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddfTRgZ2JY

Spellbound

11th September 2016, 18:50

Something strange going on here, imo. 75 F weather doesn't cause this.

Dave - Toronto

mojo

11th September 2016, 18:51

Checked youtube for video on this event with nothing yet showing of Hillary before she headed away from the scene. Something maybe closeup of her in the crowd before she started feeling ill... That way maybe clues to her condition will be noticed Things like facial droop or some other presentation of feature on her face.

PS wanted to add that at her next public appearance she is asked twice by the press, "What happened Hillary?" She totally avoids the question but says I feel fine!

TargeT

11th September 2016, 18:52

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Another short clip of exactly the same scene, shot with a smartphone. (Yes, looks bad: it almost seems as if she was forced into the vehicle)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddfTRgZ2JY

Watch her feet, she's not forced into it, she is completely lifted and carried into the vehicle.. her feet leave the ground and the toes drag before she even takes a step.

watch her right shoe... she was leaning against that metal column and had no control over her own motor functions at that point.

Chester

11th September 2016, 19:02

never mind... apologies...

It is pretty silly of me to even think that the president might matter much...

Sierra

11th September 2016, 19:03

Something strange going on here, imo. 75 F weather doesn't cause this.

Dave - Toronto

Actually I think it could. At her age, she is going to be more sensitive to heat, and I noticed she looked very flushed.

But I agree, heat is not the issue. Her health is really bad, and they are not telling us what her issue is. JFK's ill health was hidden his entire presidency (Addison's disease?) except for the cute rocking chair stories for his bad back.

Althena

11th September 2016, 19:28

That evil creature will never make it to November, God willing.

Payback is a finicky bitch and her stripper name es Karma...

Satori

11th September 2016, 19:34

How much more proof is required to convince even the most die-hard Clinton supporter that she is chronically and seriously ill and thus not qualified for the office of pResident of the USA? I reiterate a comment/question I made on another post: why are her handlers forcing her upon this country knowing she is not qualified on several levels? Answer: she would be yet another puppet placed in the Whitehouse to be controlled by the puppet masters. (Generally, the central bankers at the highest level.). No one would be easier to control than a person who not only has skeletons in her closet to be used for blackmail and control, but who is also physically and mentally infirm. It's that simple folks.

Ps. Trump is older than Clinton and you do not see him hacking and hewing, taking extended breaks from public view and falling on his face in public.

James Newell

11th September 2016, 19:43

I agree and here is a few more clips. What is that strange metal thing coming out of her pants?

https://twitter.com/Conservative_VW/status/775040932471189504

Spellbound

11th September 2016, 19:51

This was interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM

Dave - Toronto

Matina

11th September 2016, 20:09

It's really disturbing to watch.Seems she has a neurological problem.Is it true that american media tried to cover it up?Who is going to take her place?

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 20:23

Well its all over the web now...This one shows her approaching the car before the
stumble being slightly guided but still chatting.

BBC WORLD NEWS

Hillary Clinton sways and falls into van after 'overheating' at 9/11 memorial service
Aides try to cover up.....

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton has been taken ill due to 'overheating' during the 9/11 memorial service in New York.
She had joined President Barack Obama and other dignitaries at the 15th anniversary of the the
2001 attacks where a recital of the names of the dead was read out.The Democrat presidential
candidate is reported to have felt ill during the service and was rushed to her daughter Chelsea's
apartment to recover.

Hillary Clinton calls 'half' of Donald Trump supporters 'basket of deplorables', instantly regrets it

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Hillary Clinton 'rushed from 9 /11 memorial service following medical episode'

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Published on 11 Sep 2016

Video has surfaced of Hillary Clinton appearing to collapse as she was led into a van
after suffering a 'medical episode' during the 9/11 memorial service.
The Democratic presidential candidate is seen standing on a curb near the World
Trade Center when she suddenly appeared unable to stand.She seems to nearly fall
to the ground before she is caught by her aides, who hold her up. Her security
detail then had to help her into the van by grabbing each of her arms.

The former Secretary of State then appears to fall forward towards the door of the
van before being bundled inside. She appears to lose a shoe under the vehicle in
the struggle before being driven to daughter Chelsea's apartment in Manhattan.
Despite the concerning footage, she emerged from the home at 11:45 on Sunday
saying she was fine. She told waiting reporters: 'I'm feeling great, it's a beautiful
day in New York'.

Hillary Clinton stumbles leaving the 9/11 memorial

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGrA1juQzcWnwDh9XuBsaA

Matina

11th September 2016, 20:33

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 20:39

Damage control this seems to show Hillary has recovered after
visiting her daughter. Maybe a cup of tea or a blood transfusion
or battery recharge ???

Clinton: 'Much Better' After Leaving 9/11 Event

Published on 11 Sep 2016

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Hillary Clinton unexpectedly left Sunday's 9/11 anniversary ceremony in New
York after feeling "overheated" and retreated to her daughter's nearby apartment.
As she exited the apartment shortly before noon, Clinton said, "I'm feeling great." (Sept. 11)

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Video shows Clinton leaving her daughters apartment after leaving 9/11 event early

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Published on 11 Sep 2016

Hillary Clinton left the 9/11 commemoration ceremony early after she felt
overheated and went to her daughter's apartment, the Clinton campaign said

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Alert: Hillary Clinton not feeling well; leaves 9/11 event early. CIA NN debate
health concerns and defend their girl.

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
BREAKING NEWS: Hillary Clinton not feeling well; leaves 9/11 event early.

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This should have been CIA NN pro war hawkes Hillary Clintons big 9/11 interview ....

Luckily it will be overshadowed by her stumble because it is a propaganda piece....

We will sort out North Korea , Trump does not know Putin invaded Crimea.
He did not Hillary Crimea seceded , and voted to rejoin Russia where it had been
since 1783. It was transferred to the Ukraine in 1954 as part of the Soviet Union ,
not expecting what happened in 1990. The population is largely ethnic Russian
as with much of East Ukraine so it is not as simple as you are trying to say.
Putin apparently is also encouraging ISIS. She counts on that most people have no
idea what she is talking about....

Clinton remembers 9/11 in exlusive CNN interview

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Published on 11 Sep 2016

Democratic Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton remembers 9/11, talks national

security and terror with CNN's Chris Cuomo.

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CNN Admits to Being "the Biggest Ones Promoting" Hillary Clinton's Campaign

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RunningDeer

11th September 2016, 20:58

This was interesting...

Mysterious piece of metal flings out of Hillary's pant leg
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It doesn’t appear that it comes out of her pant leg. Maybe an emergency something, something juice to keep her coherent?

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Tangri

11th September 2016, 21:01

According to , wait for it ( drum roll ), Ben Fullford, her backers have
decided not to shoe-horn her into the Whitehouse after all.

If Hillary had to back out , Would Bernie become the candidate or
would they have to re run the democratic candidacy ?

Trump has seemed to tone down some issue over the past few days
saying he would listen to his advisors etc , etc.....

Probably everything running smoothly:facepalm:to make Tim Kaine next unelected president like Gerald Ford.

It is sad that % 56 americans still believe only 2 political party raising for election.

I want to remind them, there are 4 political parties running for election.

Althena

11th September 2016, 21:54

[QUOTE=Cidersomerset;1097718]Damage control this seems to show Hillary has recovered after
visiting her daughter. Maybe a cup of tea or a blood transfusion
or battery recharge ???

Clinton: 'Much Better' After Leaving 9/11 Event

It really does remind me of the movie "Weekend at Bernie's"

http://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Hillary_Weekend_At_Hillarys.jpg

Ascension

11th September 2016, 22:11

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html

Ah, CNN comes up with the quick save...pneumonia!!!

Soup

11th September 2016, 22:20

butt-plug?

Tesseract

11th September 2016, 22:20

So, heat-stroke, pneumonia - both? Close up footage shows her foot being completely dragged along the ground, as if she was unconscious when she was being handled into the van. The neo-liberal media has been in overdrive propping this woman up for months - the bizarre head rolling was, perhaps, open to interpretation, but this is clear cause for concern.

Apparently CNN have used on-screen text to cover up the bottom of the clip that shows her foot dragging along the ground for some distance. Maybe they'll have a doctor on to tell the people that this is completely normal behaviour.

Some quotes from CNN's front page article:

Clinton told reporters she was "feeling great."

But Michael Morell, the former CIA deputy director, told CNN's Jake Tapper Sunday he was with Clinton Friday for a national security meeting and "she looked fantastic. She had high energy."

Clinton's physician -- the only person to speak on the record who has actually examined her -- has repeatedly affirmed the former secretary of state's health and fitness for the highest office in the land.

…she is in good health now, according to a statement from her doctor that Clinton's campaign released in July 2015.

Clinton has no known drug allergies, does not smoke, use tobacco products or illicit drugs and drinks occasionally, according to Bardack, who also details her exercise regime: yoga, swimming, walking and weight training.

Clinton is up to date on health tests, including a colonoscopy and a few other tests not often seen in a presidential candidate's health disclosure

Who do they think they are convincing?

Cidersomerset

11th September 2016, 22:41

I just listened to Trump saying proudly that his building is the tallest in lower Manhattan
after fall of twin towers.Clinton and Trump are dangerous not only for USA but unfortunately for
the rest of the planet..Sad

Bring Back Bernie .......Trump would not be as different as Clinton in the White house as
Obama has proven. There may be some differences but on the whole the agenda will go on....

Joseph Farrell has a very good take on the race from an alternate angle.....

Thread posted today by giovonni...

Dark Journalist & Dr. Joseph Farrell: Deep State Occult Election 2016

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93266-Dark-Journalist-Dr.-Joseph-Farrell-Deep-State-Occult-Election-2016

ghostrider

11th September 2016, 23:06

No wonder she has many clones, if she gets sick they just roll out the clone ...

Limor Wolf

11th September 2016, 23:20

Many supportive energies are coming to our planet, which is not so convenient to those guys and their overlords (who try to pull everything quite fast now)

ozmirage

12th September 2016, 00:18

Bizarre, Inexplicable Behavior may have a medical excuse
Hillary Clinton < = Parkinson’s Disease?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr1IDQ2V1eM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a60kchXkiAI

Althena

12th September 2016, 00:25

Check out her body double, wouldn't be the first one either.

http://i.imgur.com/8uVtUxN.jpg

She lost about 50 pounds all of sudden, that baby blood works wonders.

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Daozen

12th September 2016, 00:48

No wonder she has many clones, if she gets sick they just roll out the clone ...

She may have clones, but the fact that we are consistently seeing her ill in public shows me that the technology is not working so well any more. As Limor Wolf says, positive energy is interfering with their plans.

This is not to say I support Trump.

I think people should turn away from the whole circus and start building their own fate.

TargeT

12th September 2016, 01:10

Daozen

12th September 2016, 01:19

She may have clones, but the fact that we are consistently seeing her ill in public shows me that the technology is not working so well any more. As Limor Wolf says, positive energy is interfering with their plans.

This is not to say I support Trump.

I think people should turn away from the whole circus and start building their own fate.

Occam's razor disagrees, strongly.

much more likely that the "clone" thing is BS, and we have 1 sick lady who is leveraging a cocktail of pharmaceuticals to keep stable.

Occam's Razor does not work so well in a high-technology sci-fi conflict.

This company is real, as far as I know:

http://www.clonaid.com/page.php?18

They have their own wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonaid

It could well be just one single sick lady, for sure. Whether there's one person, or there are clones, her physical body is not holding up.

Cognitive Dissident

12th September 2016, 01:44

The media coverage is very interesting.

When the public didn't buy the "overheating" explanation they did a retcon to "pneumonia" which they kept secret all weekend.

That's implausible too, obviously.

I think this is one of those rare moments where the yawning gap between reality and illusion becomes so apparent it's hard to ignore. I doubt we'll hear the last of this either, Trump will be all over this.

Big picture, my sense is that these moments of awakening are becoming more frequent, but maybe I'm just being am optimist.

Daozen

12th September 2016, 02:05

TargeT

12th September 2016, 02:25

Retcon, never saw that word before, but they are doing it more and more.

1. Float unbelievable story.
2. Public doesn't buy it.
3. Retroactively change story.

It's only going to get weirder from here on in.

RETCON:
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Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, her doctor has finally admitted, after she was seen fainting and collapsing and had to leave the fifteen year memorial in New York City early. Media analyst Mark Dice has the story.

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norman

12th September 2016, 02:36

If Hillary asked her minders to take her to her daughter's apartment, she may have thought she was dying.

In her situation, I'd probably do that.

Clones..... I don't know. That's a subject I struggle with, a bit like I struggle with multiple timelines stuff.

By 'struggle' I mean, I don't really believe in such things. I really don't think our world "leaders" are being replicated with instant same-age clones. That, to me is pure science fantasy, and gives conspiracy theorist bashers a couple of home goals even before we get onto the tangible stuff of investigations into who's screwing our world up.

onawah

12th September 2016, 03:33

BREAKING: Emergency DNC Meeting ‘Hillary to be Replaced’
https://truthkings.com/breaking-emergeny-dnc-meeting-hillary-replaced/#

The question now will be if Joe Biden would accept, or even be eligible seeing he isn’t on any ballots across the nation. Would the DNC opt for current Vice Presidential nominee, Tim Kaine? This news is will serve as a toxic blow to a Democratic campaign which is already beaten up.

The DNC has long denied all allegations that Clinton’s health should be subject of any scrutiny. They’ve kept with the narrative that she’s perfectly healthy, until this afternoon when they have conveniently stated that she officially has pneumonia and was subject to dehydration in today’s mild conditions in New York City.

The Democratic party will have to scramble for replacement options likely lend Republican Presidential nominee, Donald Trump, a huge favorable swing among independent voters who will likely see this as the last straw.

SOURCE:
https://twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/775093724363784192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

David ShusterVerified account
‏@DavidShuster
Clarification from dem operatives @HillaryClinton pneumonia: Expect emergency DNC meeting to CONSIDER replacement. #HillarysHealth
3:08 PM - 11 Sep 2016
DNC Could Pass On Bernie, ‘Delay Election,’ According To Bylaws
https://truthkings.com/dnc-pass-bernie-delay-election-according-bylaws/

Hillary’s fading health has become a national issue. While only a few weeks ago the subject was considered a rouse by conspiracy theorist, a cold hard reality set in this afternoon when Clinton collapsed on the streets outside of the 9-11 memorial in New York City. The DNC, as reported by Emmy Award-winning journalist David Shuster, are moving to hold an emergency meeting to consider a replacement for Clinton.

Clinton’s inability to walk will be almost impossible for the Democrats to sustain. In an election that’s already considerably close in the polls and facing a motivated group of Trump voters who will go to the polls on election day, the DNC must act now and replace her. But replacing her would seem a complicated matter. Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine wouldn’t likely be the choice. He has no real following, no star power to carry him past an energized Trump. Joe Biden formerly turned down the offer, though it doesn’t mean he’d turn it down again. He’s the only likely choice at this juncture. Clinton saying she “feels great” does little to help her party. She will likely field calls to formally resign from the election. And the media (who is currently banned from seeing her) will swarm in on this story as the tide has turned.

Bakari Sellers, a Hillary Clinton surrogate and CNN political contributor is now questioning if Hillary should be forced to reveal her medical records in light of today’s events. The Washington Post even turned on Hillary writing “Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the Presidential campaign.”

But what about Bernie Sanders? The DNC doesn’t want him, that was shown in countless emails exposed by Wikileaks several weeks back. The DNC could infact pass on Sanders completely and push election day. Strategically possibly?

Democratic Party bylaws stipulate that in the event that a major party’s presidential nominee dies or drops out, the party can hold a special meeting to find an appropriate replacement. It is further possible that Congress could delay election day if such an event were to occur too close to election day.

As it stands, a nominee for a major party has never dropped out or died prior to a major election. And pushing election day might not be the sanest move by Democrats, but the fact is, they are desperate to remedy a series of vile mistakes: 1) They were proven to have pushed Sanders out. 2) They helped conceal Hillary’s email scandal. 3) They’ve clearly concealed Hillary’s health demise. All of this has been shown to be a coordinated effort on the part of the DNC. And now they could actually attempt to manipulate election day.

The DNC moving to replace Hillary is a fantasy idea. It won’t happen. The DNC does not want Sanders as the nominee. They’ve currently provided the party with a sick, corrupt candidate over him. They aren’t about to have a change of heart anytime soon.

Here is Bernie running to the elevator, seeming the picture of perfect health, which is now making the rounds on social media.
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Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 05:54

HillarysHealth: Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia, cancels trip to California

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
The health of 68-year-old Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton
has again fallen under the media spotlight, but this time due to a serious
health issue. Less than two months from elections, Clinton has been
confirmed to be suffering from pneumonia.

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Hillary Clinton Pneumonia Diagnosis Revealed

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Published on 11 Sep 2016

Clinton campaign says she felt "overheated" so she left to go to her daughter Chelsea's apartment.

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Hillary Clinton's doctor says she has pneumonia

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton has been diagnosed with pneumonia, her doctor says. This comes
just after video surfaced of the candidate stumbling out of the September 11th
memorial event in New York City. CBS News political editor Steve Chaggaris, CBS
News chief medical correspondent Dr. John LaPook and CBS News correspondent
Nancy Cordes join CBSN to discuss.

phillipbbg

12th September 2016, 06:07

I would not be surprised if there was an announcement within 72 hours advising of her passing. She may well be wired up on life support to allow family to come to her side. They are already reports of emergency meetings behind closed doors surfacing as to replacements etc.

Its actually sad they have been forcing an obviously very sick woman to parade and sprook in public as directed. It actually shows what a charade the election process has become in the USA also by the manner in which the current president has been treated recently the office has no world respect any more.

Even Trump has gone quiet this time, lets hope some dignity and respect prevails

sweety

12th September 2016, 07:33

Clearly unfit for office.

Could be staged too.
A trick.
She could not beat trump anyway.

If she can step out the race without the loss of face...
These kind of people are prepared to do anything.
Anything goes as long they can get away with it.

And personally, I wouldn't mind if Obama stayed for a third term.
With Hillary we can expect war.
Obama kept us us out of war.

I am afraid Trump can be blackmailed,
( as all presidents have dirt.)
And will be blackmailed.

Turning in a playing-ball in someone else his hands.
Rich billionaire hands I am afraid.
Wallstreet , bankers-hands.
War-hands.

I would vote for Obama !

Star Tsar

12th September 2016, 07:44

Could this be a ploy to get out the up coming debates?

Matt P

12th September 2016, 10:56

Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 11:51

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Clinton cancels California trip after pneumonia diagnosis

5 minutes ago

US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has cancelled
a campaign trip to California after being diagnosed with pneumonia.
Mrs Clinton was taken ill on Sunday at a 9/11 memorial ceremony
and was seen stumbling as she left the event early.

Her doctor said she was now re-hydrated and "recovering nicely".

Her Republican rival Donald Trump wished her a speedy recovery
and promised to release details on his own health later this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37336164

Frankie Pancakes

12th September 2016, 12:51

http://82.221.129.208/basepagec4.html

NOT A HEALTH ISSUE, WATCH FOR THE BODY DOUBLE NOW

WHAT APPEARS TO BE HAND CUFFS CLEARLY VISIBLE

Was she or wasn't she. Be interesting to see where this goes.

PurpleLama

12th September 2016, 13:27

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/11/11/3627864400000578-3684267-Barnwell_left_said_Clinton_was_really_lovely_when_they_meet_at_a-a-95_1468232512744.jpg

Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 13:34

TargeT

12th September 2016, 13:38

Published on 11 Sep 2016
Mysterious piece of metal flings out of Hillary's pant
leg while she is being dragged into her van passed out

I think one of the guys that grabbed her as she started to collapse dropped that.. it didn't come out of her pant leg...

possibly the bald white guy had a coin in his hand when he realized he had to grab her.. the timing is pretty good for that.

sunwings

12th September 2016, 13:39

Just another normal day....move along everyone!

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Breaking News Hilary is dead! :peep:

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Her hands are strangely being held behind her back but I don´t see what would appear to be any handcuffs?

TargeT

12th September 2016, 13:45

Hillary's hands are behind her because she's trying to hang onto that Bollard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard) because she cannot stand up on her own..

in other videos you can see her move her arms, she's definitely not handcuffed.

RunningDeer

12th September 2016, 13:49

I don't know what this is ? if genuine....I just saw it on D.Ickes headline page...

Mysterious Piece of Metal Falls out of Hillary's Pant Leg

By David on 12 September 2016 GMT

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Published on 11 Sep 2016
Mysterious piece of metal flings out of Hillary's pant
leg while she is being dragged into her van passed out

It doesn’t comes out of her pant leg. To prove it, I took a series of snapshots from the video and created a 'gif graphic'. Here's the repost #34 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93262-Hillary-collapses-at-9-11-ceremony&p=1097724&viewfull=1#post1097724)

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/pant-leg2_zps6gansilr.gif

pyrangello

12th September 2016, 13:51

Boy , I watched that video a few times and I go down the rabbit hole quite a bit but not buying arrest thing. One thing is clear she would have collapsed right there before the vehicle got there had that person next to her not been holding her up the entire time. Watched when Hillary bobs down the first time, so does that lady holding her up and then there's the mysterious doc opening up the van, Pictures of her looked very bad prior to all of this, temperature was 75 degrees that day, not buying the overheat thing either. She's exhausted and unhealthy and probably has some very very serious health issues. Just my 2 cents

TargeT

12th September 2016, 13:56

not buying arrest thing

This is a better angle. you can see her right arm come from behind her back and move forward, no handcuffs.
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this arrest thing REEKS of disinfo & BS..

Bob

12th September 2016, 14:14

Her doc's are saying it is Bacterial Pneumonia and that she has been advised to cool it for a few days, take antibiotics. It is interesting that CHF (chronic congestive heart failure) can also create pneumonia, and it is known that chemicals or fine particles (sprayed/inhaled) can induce such inflammations. So the 'source' of the pneumonia claim.. was she vaccinated 'against' pneumonia, or what? There is still room for conspiracy as to why and what.. But no doesn't look like 'arrest' scenario but someone with a serious medical issue..

RunningDeer

12th September 2016, 14:23

Her hands are strangely being held behind her back but I don´t see what would appear to be any handcuffs?
No handcuffs. I agree, sunwigs. The man’s hand is under her extended arm leading Hillary into the van, while the woman guides her.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/help3_zpsoupbz7fo.gif

Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 14:33

I think one of the guys that grabbed her as she started to collapse dropped that.. it didn't come out of her pant leg...

possibly the bald white guy had a coin in his hand when he realized he had to grab her.. the timing is pretty good for that.

It doesn’t comes out of her pant leg. To prove it, I took a series of snapshots from the video and created a 'gif graphic'. Here's the repost #34

Good work guys that clears that up nice and quick .....

ulli

12th September 2016, 14:50

When she reappeared from Chelsea's apartment she embraced a child, potentially passing on her contagious pneumonia.

Jantje

12th September 2016, 15:02

If this woman was really gonna be arrested she would be in jail already

pyrangello

12th September 2016, 15:49

Calz

12th September 2016, 15:59

When she reappeared from Chelsea's apartment she embraced a child, potentially passing on her contagious pneumonia.

Hmmm ... possible ... :noidea:

So ... how much integrity has the Clinton machine brought since ... ummm ... forever???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPq7JiU7Bms

onawah

12th September 2016, 16:03

Unless that was her double--she seemed a lot slimmer in that vid, so it seems likely.

Chester

12th September 2016, 16:20

Edit - I should read ahead before I post... the handcuff theory has been proven false via video evidence.

I noted that Dr. Ted Noel has many times sited that it is quite possible she is a long term sufferer of Parkinson's disease.

Note here (https://www.michaeljfox.org/understanding-parkinsons/living-with-pd/topic.php?prognosis) -

Most doctors say that Parkinson’s disease itself is not fatal. You die with Parkinson's disease, notfrom it. However, as symptoms worsen they can cause incidents that result in death. For example, in advanced cases, difficulty swallowing can cause Parkinson’s patients to aspirate food into the lungs, leading to pneumonia or other pulmonary conditions. Loss of balance can cause falls that result in serious injuries or death. The seriousness of these incidents depends greatly on the patient's age, overall health and disease stage.

Cidersomerset

12th September 2016, 16:25

When she reappeared from Chelsea's apartment she embraced
a child, potentially passing on her contagious pneumonia.

You just reminded me if I remember right she went to her daughter
and her children to recoup for a bit. How many hugs there ?

Shannon

12th September 2016, 16:27

ulli

12th September 2016, 17:02

Unless that was her double--she seemed a lot slimmer in that vid, so it seems likely.

I saw that video as well, but also noticed that others looked extremely slim.
Like the screen had been squeezed sideways.

Sueanne47

12th September 2016, 17:09

If its true that the dark side have killary clones...then how come there hasnt been a clone 'sub'? or are all the part machine/part reptillian clones malfunctioning at the same time? :clock: :girl_wacko:

Michi

12th September 2016, 17:56

Inside the German Metro (News TV) (Hamburg) it said today that Hillary has pneumonia.:silent:

Sean

12th September 2016, 18:13

Hey all. I'm living in NYC these days, and I was at ground zero about an hour before HRC was(had to go to work). the day was NOT HOT. It was actually on the "cool" side, compared to other days this week, so don't believe it about "overheating". that's BS. I believe she has advanced Parkinson's disease; This man here lays out a solid case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8

Althena

12th September 2016, 18:32

https://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/humpty_hillary_rgb_ben_garrison_web.jpg?w=640&h=437

Althena

12th September 2016, 19:06

http://i.imgur.com/203w1R9.jpg

:idea:MAGIC!!! ;)

TargeT

12th September 2016, 19:15

http://i.imgur.com/203w1R9.jpg

:idea:MAGIC!!! ;)

Camera lens... look at this angle:

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Chester

12th September 2016, 20:20

How long does it take to get Hillary's double out there?

70 minutes to get to Chelsea's apartment.

5 minutes to get into her clothes.

13 minutes to get hair and makeup right.

2 minutes to get downstairs and out on the street.

Sueanne47

12th September 2016, 21:32

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Flash

12th September 2016, 21:37

http://i.imgur.com/203w1R9.jpg

:idea:MAGIC!!! ;)

the left pic is photoshoped, so blatantly obvious. I would get slimmer too with such photoshoping - wait.... i am slimmer in my pics! lollllllllll

Very funny though

bearcow

12th September 2016, 21:42

interesting hypothesis with about hillary wearing blue sunglasses to counteract effects of parkinsons.

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youtube removed the video. here it is one liveleak

http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=fb7168ac97ec

RunningDeer

12th September 2016, 21:48

the left pic is photoshoped, so blatantly obvious. I would get slimmer too with such photoshoping - wait.... i am slimmer in my pics! lollllllllll
Very funny though

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/skinny_zps0qz3htsm.JPG

Spellbound

12th September 2016, 23:04

Pneumonia is pretty serious though, I just had a friend pass away Saturday of double pneumonia and she was septic, she was 48 years old. Very sad . I also had a buddy of mine pass away of pneumonia 20 years ago in his 40's , he survived 3 tours in Vietnam and caught pneumonia out duck hunting, didn't go to the docs quick enough and could not get fluid out of his lungs fast enough and passed away.

I'm guessing Hillary's so exhausted now and full of meds just to keep her going and if she has something serious going on this is much worse than anyone is saying and pneumonia is the last thing she needs right now.

Middle aged adults can die from pneumonia in their late 40's?? That's a bit strange, no?? Hell, I'm 48 and I'd like to think I could beat it. I can understand elderly people not being able to beat it and end up succumbing to it. My condolences for your friends. I just found that a bit odd. Not saying it can't happen....but it's rare, I'd imagine. As for Hillary, I'm not buying heat stroke or pneumonia....something definitely off here. Can't put a person with a situation like that into power.

Dave - Toronto

Flash

12th September 2016, 23:07

We are in Canada Spellbound and very lucky to have free medicare, so that when really sick, we do not hesitate to see the md for lack of money. The rest of the planet, except for Europe which is like us, does not have such a chance. So, in most countries, people hesitate to get treatment if not insured. However, it would not be the case for Clinton.

Pneumonia is pretty serious though, I just had a friend pass away Saturday of double pneumonia and she was septic, she was 48 years old. Very sad . I also had a buddy of mine pass away of pneumonia 20 years ago in his 40's , he survived 3 tours in Vietnam and caught pneumonia out duck hunting, didn't go to the docs quick enough and could not get fluid out of his lungs fast enough and passed away.

I'm guessing Hillary's so exhausted now and full of meds just to keep her going and if she has something serious going on this is much worse than anyone is saying and pneumonia is the last thing she needs right now.

Middle aged adults can die from pneumonia in their late 40's?? That's a bit strange, no?? Hell, I'm 48 and I'd like to think I could beat it. I can understand elderly people not being able to beat it and end up succumbing to it. My condolences for your friends. I just found that a bit odd. Not saying it can't happen....but it's rare, I'd imagine. As for Hillary, I'm not buying heat stroke or pneumonia....something definitely off here. Can't put a person with a situation like that into power.

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound

12th September 2016, 23:55

PurpleLama

13th September 2016, 02:27

http://www.govtslaves.info/chelseas-apt-has-same-address-as-a-medical-facility-hillarys-secret-hospital/

Interesting, if this info could be vetted.

onawah

13th September 2016, 03:38

Hillary's aid has been identified as Dr. Okunola
http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/hillary-clinton-ec322b55-9d25-45ff-ad8a-8bb6f4c1d6bc.jpg
http://neurosciencecenternj.com/physicians.shtml#okunola

Oladotun A. Okunola, M.D.
http://neurosciencecenternj.com/okunola.jpg

Dr. Okunola joins the prestigious Neurology group, Neuroscience Center of Northern New Jersey, to provide a variety of specialized care. He specializes in epilepsy, clinical neurophysiology, and sleep medicine.

Dr. Okunola completed medical school at Howard University College of Medicine. He stayed and completed his internship and neurology residency at Howard University Hospital, Washington, DC. He received fellowship training in epilepsy and clinical neurophysiology at Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC. He also completed a sleep medicine fellowship at Norwalk Hospital, Connecticut.

As part of his fellowship training in clinical neurophysiology/epilepsy, he focused on intraoperative and epilepsy monitoring; EEG and EMG. As a sleep specialist, he diagnoses and treats sleep related disorders such as daytime sleepiness (hypersomnolence), insomnia, narcolepsy, obstructive, central, and complex sleep apnea, etc.

Dr. Okunola is board-certified in both adult neurology and clinical neurophysiology. He is a diplomate of the American Board of Neurology.

To see the relationship between neurophysiology and Parkinson's see:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3832295

Abstract
Clinical Neurophysiology brings about 2 major contributions in the study of Parkinson's disease: on the one hand, it makes it possible to measure the motor troubles; on the other, it enables their pathophysiological analysis. The 3 classical signs must be studied separately. Tremor can easily be recorded by electromyography. Moreover, its parkinsonian nature can be specified by studying the resetting of EMG bursts following electrical stimulation of the motor nerve. A pace maker has been demonstrated in the thalamus from where rhythmic messages are first sent to motor cortex and thereafter reverberated to spinal motoneurons. Rigidity can be assessed by sophisticated but not generalized methods. It is easier to evaluate it by long-loop responses evoked by proprioceptive or exteroceptive stimulations. These responses reflect activity in pathways relaying in supraspinal structures. Contrary to spasticity, rigidity is not basically due to dysfunctions in segmentary spinal circuits. It is more likely that it depends on hyperactive and hyperexcitable long loop pathways. This hypothesis is in agreement with well established facts showing that parkinsonian hypertonia vanishes after dorsal root section. Akinesia is complex semeiologically. It is made of various components some of which can be measured. Reaction times and movement times provide interesting data which however are not strictly correlated with the motor handicap. Motor programmes are assembled in normal delays but they are not "called upon" correctly, reflecting a disturbance in the motor planning. A lack of "energetization" of the motor cortex and the pyramidal tract is likely. A functional disconnection between the motor program/plan side and the execution side can be hypothesized to explain the 3 major signs; on the one hand, neural messages are not correctly transferred to the pyramidal system, on the other, spinoencephalospinal loops on the execution side become more active as they escape from the control normally exerted by the plan/program side where basal ganglia play a prominent role.

Citizen No2

13th September 2016, 05:38

@ Purple Lama:

Some due diligence, amongst other things, performed here:- http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1136493/pg1

Regards.

Napping

13th September 2016, 05:55

Dehydrated? I don't buy it. It was mid-70's and you're telling me one of the wealthiest criminals in the world can't afford to have a couple handlers carry some water bottles to all these events?
I don't buy the pneumonia bit either. My nurse practitioner wife tells me it's very odd that a doctor would come to private residence, diagnose pneumonia and then give powerful antibiotics. Pneumonia is confirmed by a chest x-ray. I don't think Chelsea had one in her apartment.
I personally think it's not Hillary at all. That's Nagini that crawled into her skin and, as you know, snakes don't walk so well. :bigsmile:

Matt

Just an fyi...A good doctor can hear pneumonia in the lower lungs with a stethoscope ...

No doctor I've come across has been brave enough to distinguish a nasty chest infection, vs pneumonia simply via auscultation (listening to their chest with a stethoscope). Confirmation is needed with chest X-rays and then further blood tests to confirm pneumonia and then specifically what type of pneumonia. Fluid in the base of the lungs can be lots of things, even to the trained ear.

A very compelling find for mine is that that the overweight African American doctor who virtually hasn't left her side at every public outing has been identified as a neurophysiologist. This doesn't necessarily confirm Parkinson's per se, but at the very least it confirms that she is still suffering ill effects of blood clots and contusions on the brain which can induce epilepsy.

It's undeniable now, Hillary is unlikely to be fit for president unless she makes a remarkable recovery from whatever has been troubling her for several years. I think we all know that's unlikely.

In steps Jo Biden. I drove past him a couple of months ago when he was visiting our Prime Minister.....I wonder what they were really discussing?

Cheers,

Matt

avid

13th September 2016, 08:47

Cidersomerset

13th September 2016, 10:20

Body double tweets hinting in NYC and puts up photo of Chelsea Clintons apt,
is this fake or could it be true?

I think this has been dismissed ? But would explain touching little girl
though it did present a good PR shot for the cameras in the moment.
In hindsight was a bit reckless if she knew she was suffering from pneumonia.

Three articles by Jeff Rense......

Did A Hillary Body Double Walk Out Of 'Chelsea's Apartment Building'?

By David on 13 September 2016 GMT

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‘Hillary’ comes out of ‘Chelsea’s apartment building higher than a kite, there are
no Secret Service agents protecting her, a little girl just happens to be there to
run up for a cute photo op, ‘Hillary’ spews ‘pneumonia’ all over the little girl,
waves, to the media and strides off to the right to find her Secret Service
protection. What’s wrong with this story?’

Read More........
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Rence.com....

Did A Hillary Body Double Walk
Out Of 'Chelsea's Apt Building'?

http://www.rense.com/general96/hill_ltltgirl.jpg

Did A Hillary Body Double Walk Out Of 'Chelsea's Apt Building'?9-12-16'Hillary'
comes out of 'Chelsea's apartment building higher than a kite, there are no Secret
Service agents protecting her, a little girl just happens to be there to run up for a
cute photo op, 'Hillary' spews 'pneumonia' all over the little girl, waves, to the media
and strides off to the right to find her Secret Service protection. What's wrong with
this story? - See more at: http://www.rense.com/general96/hillbodydoub.htm#sthash.RVM4ehUl.dpuf

http://www.rense.com/general96/hillarymult.jpg

Who Is The Woman On The Left?

http://www.rense.com/general96/2hills.jpg

That Does Not Appear To Be Hillary Clinton...

http://www.rense.com/general96/HillaryClinton2.jpg

Read more: Did A Hillary Body Double Walk Out Of ‘Chelsea’s Apartment Building’

http://www.rense.com/general96/hillbodydoub.htm

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This article is about the ring finger , still does not look as clear as they suggest to
me.....

rensecom

The Ring Finger PROVES A Body
Double Left The Apt Building

There is absolutely NO QUESTION that the woman leaving Chelsea's apartment
building was NOT Hillary Clinton. The woman is a body double. This explains why
there were no Secret Service agents with her.

First photo is Hillary Clinton. Look at her RING FINGER...

http://www.rense.com/general96/ringerfing.htm

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Yet a third article to ponder.....

rence.com..
Damning Observations Of The
Body Double Leaving The Apt

Jeff Rense
9-12-16

Note - We are following the breaking story of Hillary Clinton's Body Double. Our
source sent the following regarding the video of 'Hillary' leaving Chelsea's apt
building...

"My big question is - Where is the footage of Hillary arriving at Chelsea's
apartment building? She did arrive there. There is a sidewalk cafe just next to it
and nobody got footage of Hillary arriving!? The was no entourage entering? She
slipped in unnoticed?!

(It is highly doubtful Hillary, in possibly critical condition, was taken to Chelsea's
apartment 'to rest.' She was likely taken to the nearest hospital and given
emergency care. If that was the case, is she still hospitalized? Is she still alive?
WABC-TV said she had died. That is one of America's top stations and that would
be a monumental error to make. We don't know for certain if Hillary Clinton is alive
or where she is. - JR)

read more and photos on link.....

http://www.rense.com/general96/damningobsv.htm

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ulli

13th September 2016, 12:22

Here is your daily reality snack. (Warning...gossip gossip)
If you scroll down to the comments you will get the impression that the readers get their info from this thread
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/hillarys-glass-hurling-cursing-fit-rage-and-dangling-noose-allusion/ri16391

http://victuruslibertas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Hillary-tantrum-smaller.jpg

But I meant to stay on topic. This website concludes that she had a grand mal epilepsy attack, and is still in hospital.
http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/09/was-hillarys-latest-ill-health-episode-really-a-grand-mal-seizure/

ThePythonicCow

13th September 2016, 12:29

http://www.govtslaves.info/chelseas-apt-has-same-address-as-a-medical-facility-hillarys-secret-hospital/

Interesting, if this info could be vetted.

@ Purple Lama:

Some due diligence, amongst other things, performed here:- http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1136493/pg1

Regards.
I've dealt with home health care services in the U.S., when assisting my sister a couple of times in past years. Their business office is little more than a place for record keeping and coordinating a mobile staff of nurses and attendants via phone, email, text messages and such. It would be entirely reasonable to operate a home health care service out of an apartment. Patients don't see the office, rather the nurses and such on call go to the patient's homes.

If I were rich, I'd have no interest in home health care services, just as I'd have no interest in a small Taxi-Cab company's services. I'd have my own medical staff, and own limosuines, or hire the services of higher end businesses for such needs.

If I were filthy rich, I'd not own nor hire any such. Corporations (whether political or economic or financial) that I control would handle those details and provide me such services.

If I were a prominent minion of the filthy rich (for example, a Clinton, who I would guess answers to whomever the Rockefellers also answer to), then corporations (be that the United States of America or JPMorgan Chase or ...) that my bosses control would provide such services.

In short: My impression is that it is not significant that a (now defunct) home health care service once had its business address at Chelsea's apartment complex.

bearcow

13th September 2016, 12:51

forget the body double theory, it is clear she has Parkinson's and is hiding it.

http://www.colorglasses.com/Color-Therapy-Medical-Benefits/Parkinsons-Disease-Blue-Glasses/

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ThePythonicCow

13th September 2016, 12:57

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996
Some interesting info on body doubles further on in this article, different wedding rings, different finger lengths etc. Wearing bag on different side than normal.
Hmmm.....?
Body double tweets hinting in NYC and puts up photo of Chelsea Clintons apt, is this fake or could it be true?

It rings true to me ... that the person who waved and smiled and put her arm around a small girl, outside of Chelsea's apartment, was a body double for Hillary.

Whether Hillary is dead, or just becoming too obviously ill to carry on the charade, is entirely unknown to me. But such a use of a body double would buy them some more time, to deal with the situation.

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forget the body double theory, it is clear she has Parkinson's and is hiding it. The pervasive use of blue lenses and the fact that this Okunola Oladotun fellow is a member of her staff pretty much seals the deal that she is hiding her illness.

http://www.colorglasses.com/Color-Therapy-Medical-Benefits/Parkinsons-Disease-Blue-Glasses/

http://neurosciencecenternj.com/physicians.shtml#okunola

I agree - Parkinson's or some such disease or complex of diseases - yes.

Whether or not that was a body double waving to the onlookers outside Chelsea's apartment is a minor (albeit somewhat amusing to me) detail.

Citizen No2

13th September 2016, 14:36

@ Paul:

If you read through the thread at ATS you'll see that it started off with the usual conspiracy hi-jinks, with cries of "private facility just for the Hildebeast". As it progressed, someone got the phone number and called the place, spoke to a woman who told them it was pretty much what the place was...... A small, home-care place that had since moved, IIRC, still housed some paper records. Then a guy posted who had lived a block down from the address. The conclusion seems to be that no, it is not a private, top-end, super-secret facility for Hildebeast. It was quite an interesting read and to see how it developed from an all screaming "Conspiracy, Conspiracy!!" thread to a well followed through and researched conclusion.

Regards.

Flash

13th September 2016, 14:59

We have here a very clear pic of hand lines. If we could see the deemed double handlines, when she came back from her daughter's appartment, we could know for sure that is a double or not. If they are the same, it is not a double, if they are different, then we have the proof. This cannot be faked unless it is a clone.

Paula?? can you get that for us?

I tend to agree with Paul and others, it looks like a double. However, the pic was photoshop in my views anyhow (one would photoshop the regular Hilary just to make the conspiracist go nut, but the party could photoshop a double too, to make sure we believe the story)

forget the body double theory, it is clear she has Parkinson's and is hiding it. The pervasive use of blue lenses and the fact that this Okunola Oladotun fellow is a member of her staff pretty much seals the deal that she is hiding her illness.

http://www.colorglasses.com/Color-Therapy-Medical-Benefits/Parkinsons-Disease-Blue-Glasses/

http://neurosciencecenternj.com/physicians.shtml#okunola

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ThePythonicCow

13th September 2016, 15:26

I am noticing that the body double discussion is being accompanied in some forums by a "Hillary is dead theory". That will make us alternative analysts look like fools, once again, when Hillary shows up alive and very much Hillary, in a few days.

I am also noticing that the "super-secret super-duper medical facility at Chelsea's address" meme supports the notion that Hillary actually went to that address. I doubt that. I suspect rather that Hillary went to a medical facility that was closer to being "super-secret super-duper", and that the whole Chelsea address thing began as just a way to throw the untrusted people and reporters off the trail, and to setup a substitution of Hillary for a double.

Typical ... in both these ways ... partially false memes are introduced into the alternative media discussion, with some enticing element of conspiracy in them, and with some grain(s) of truth, that either (1) support a more important element of the primary "public story" (for example claiming that Hillary went to Chelsea's, in this present example), or (2) will make fools of us all, a few days hence, when disproven and debunked (at least in the view of most ordinary people who took some interest in the matter.)

ThePythonicCow

13th September 2016, 15:32

We have here a very clear pic of hand lines. If we could see the deemed double handlines, when she came back from her daughter's appartment, we could know for sure that is a double or not. If they are the same, it is not a double, if they are different, then we have the proof. This cannot be faked unless it is a clone.

Paula?? can you get that for us?
I was thinking along the same lines, perhaps an hour ago, and went looking for clear shots of the palms of [A] the (more likely real) Hillary and of [B] the (more likely body double) Hillary in front of Chelsea's apartment on 9/11.

I found [A], in such as the image that shows for the Youtube video you posted.

I didn't find any images of [B], the "body double" Hillary's palms, with useful resolution.

Have you or anyone else found [B]?

Cardillac

13th September 2016, 15:43

Hi all,

I know this is a difficult, shocking subject; supposedly Clinton has been suffering for years from a neurological disorder-

her coughing jags have been reported as being due to pneumonia but she has a dry cough and pneumonia sufferers (I had this affliction, thank God, only once) have a deep cough (take my word for it- I had a lung-wracking cough)-

I certainly don't believe everything that is posted at Rense.com but there have been many other sources who have reported on the fact that H. Clinton has had for yrs. a severe neurological disorder and is terminaly ill-

anyway, if you're interested do check out Rense.com latest headlines and I found it extremely interesting thanks to linked sources that H: Clinton has a Doppelgänger/double (gosh!)-

all top Nazis had doubles (Hitler had 6); the person they hanged in Iraq was Saddam H's double; even Saddam H's sons had doubles (too much to go into now) among countless others...

here in Germany it was announced yesterday that H. Clinton has a double- WHY?

all I can say is check out Rense.com newest headlines then form your own opinion on this topic-

please be well all (wouldn't want it any other way)-

Larry :-)

ThePythonicCow

13th September 2016, 15:56

anyway, if you're interested do check out Rense.com latest headlines and I found it extremely interesting thanks to linked sources that H: Clinton has a Doppelgänger/double (gosh!)-
I just merged your new thread "is Hilary Clinton dead?- check out Rense.com" in with this Hillary collapses at 9-11 ceremony (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93262-Hillary-collapses-at-9-11-ceremony/page6) thread, where we're discussing such matters.

Satori

13th September 2016, 16:14

Good news! The MSM reports that HLC only has pneumonia and that people who think she has serious health problems are conspiracy theorists. Nothing to look at here. I'm so relieved. We can all go back to sleep now.

Citizen No2

13th September 2016, 16:31

pyrangello

13th September 2016, 16:31

Good One Satori , LOL Main Stream Minions MSM deflectors of the truth , preserving the criminal element , and manipulators of the people Main Stream Minions at your service!

Cardillac

13th September 2016, 16:47

Hi all,

for some strange reason I was thrown out of PCamelot and had to re-loggin once I first tried to initiate this thread- it supposedly didn't go through so if I repeat myself I have no explaination for this whatsoever-

[Mod-edit: See post # 109 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93262-Hillary-collapses-at-9-11-ceremony&p=1098265&viewfull=1#post1098265), above; Hervé]

if one is interested do check out Jeff Rense's newest headlines (one of many sources) about H. Clinton's rapidly failing health and her possible subsequent demise;

now all of a sudden it's being publicised everywhere (even here in Germany) that H. Clinton has a Doppelgänger/double!- gosh!- who wouldv'e guessed (all top Nazis amongst many others afterwards had doubles- long story)-

all I can say is check out Rense.com and the latest headlines then draw your own opinion-

Larry :-)

Flash

13th September 2016, 17:12

What I find quite interesting is that it seems that RViewers are very right this time around for the month of September:

"A secret group meeting having heavy discussions about something related to politics or money or...

A more public group having meeting as well

where in both meeting things are being investigated and controlled

The first target was international involving Putin and Kerry and bombers

The second target was people talking, clean cut well groomed people - 1 not recorded not reported secret meeting, one more open with observers, than the people outside (us) - he even seen to be drawing what looks like the capitol, saying possibly related to the target

"texture of concrete or rock and big structure" he is literally describing 9/11 memorial, with flat stones etc.....plus a vehicle arriving, somebody escorted out "

wow, congratulations Alguire and the Farsight institute, spot on

Look at it again, this is captivating

Bargaining and deals, I bet anything they are dealing her departure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UYfs1gAzK0

He is later talking of something that looks like the UN building with people discussing about something that has happened, causing a cascade of other things to happen, speaking in their own language (not English) - records kept, not videotaped, do not want it public.

I bet Hilary is going down, Trump is not to be elected, a putchs of some kind will happen ini the US and the UN will try to take decisions on the aftermath

A group with testimonies and subpeonad people, like a court proceeding or testimonies, this is public, videotaped

Then he talks about Hilary clinton vs Benghazi feeling and related to Washington with interlocking stuff - deals within deals

then he sees people around a coffee table, in a big nice office with living room field, - I think it looks like the oval office personnally, vut it could be any large corporation president's office (like Trump's lol)
he says this meeting is very private and effect all the other things, hearings, meeting of multinational groups, they are the one making the decision, they are the real power brokers - it causes outside some kind of protests (not like black life matters, not racially motivated), angry, frustrated, fed up, shouting

Economic, political, military related affecting a lot of people who in turn are shocked,
multinational, worldwide, hearings about it, court cases, investigations press conferences, meetings upon meetings, ultimately something decided by people that we do not know or see, that filters down to the men in the street wanting to hold up signs - will go on throughout many months

Seeds being sown, and going on for months

bearcow

13th September 2016, 17:20

@ Paul:

From the MSM no less:

Hand Comparison:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3787428/Does-Hillary-BODY-DOUBLE-Bizarre-conspiracy-theory-claims-pneumonia-stricken-candidate-replaced-lookalike.html

Regards.

This is the cover story to muddy the waters and marginalize the opposition. They are giving it legs to take people off the scent that she has a serious health condition. don't fall for it.

onawah

13th September 2016, 17:51

Hillary dropping out of the race no longer a fantasy 9/12/16
by Jon Rappoport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/hillary-dropping-out-of-the-race-no-longer-a-fantasy/

Hillary buckled and fainted at the 9/11 memorial. The video available here at InfoWars, tells the story.

I’ve written about her health problems before, including the blood-thinning Coumadin she’s taking. And the blood clots. And the advisory against flying, because new life-threatening blood clots can occur.

I wrote—and I still say—Democrat power players would go along with electing her even if she was dragged into the Oval Office dead on arrival. They don’t care.

After Hillary’s fainting spell at the 9/11 memorial, the Washington Post, that organ of unquestioned truth, grants that it’s now acceptable to ask polite questions about her health. Well done, boys. You’re really going out on a limb. Thanks so much.

I think it’s time for major media to take an overt stand about Hillary: “She may be very sick, dangerously so, but it’s still a crime to emphasize that because it’s sexist, and besides, untoward publicity could allow Trump to slip into the White House, and besides, our news organization has donated to the Clinton Foundation, and besides, she’s Hillary and we all know and love her and we don’t want to think about something bad happening to her because then we would cry.”

I would accept that statement.

—Hillary’s public coughing fits. The physical instability. The fainting. The handler, Todd Madison, walking out on stage, putting his hand on her, telling her to keep talking, as if she’s forgotten what’s going on. You have to conclude her doctors have tried everything they can to keep her upright and functioning, and if this is best they can do, she’s in bad shape.

Hillary dropping out of the race for the Oval Office is no longer a fantasy. It could happen. If it does, the media will swing into gear and try to demand a delay in the election.

There is no basis for such a demand, because both major Parties can pick their candidate on their own terms. The Democrats, for example, as we’ve seen, can rig the vote and secretly back Hillary from the beginning and cook up propaganda to defeat Bernie Sanders. They can choose a slew of so-called super-delegates who owe nothing to the voters and, instead, support whoever they want to (Hillary). So if she drops out, the Democrat leaders can simply decide, again, without consulting voters, who the substitute is. Kaine? Biden? Sanders? Elizabeth Warren? Michelle Obama? Rachel Maddow? Karl Marx?

No doubt, some progressive pundit will suggest Obama should stay in office for a while, because he has the experience, he’s Presidential, he’s done such a magnificent job in his two terms, his mission is unfinished (he must get the TPP treaty ratified), we need him to continue the dialogue on race in the post-racial society, he knows how to bypass Congress with a blizzard of executive orders, he can figure out a way to admit millions more illegal immigrants to these shores, he backs Black Lives Matter, and he knows how to talk about fake employment numbers and pretend they’re real.

The Democrats and their supporters will go on a victim binge: woe is us, Hillary our leader has fallen, we’re crippled (differently abled), we need time to regroup, we can’t be expected to make a snap judgment, who cares about constitutional rules governing elections, this is really serious, we have to decide what’s best for The People—and we have to find a way to pay off Bernie Sanders so he stays in hiding and keeps his big mouth shut.

I, for one, would like to see Trump vs. Bernie. Socialist vs. Capitalist. They could do three debates on Globalism and its horrendous effects on America, at which point the public would realize they both claim to perceive the gargantuan threat, albeit from different angles.Hillary was the unabashed queen bee of Globalism.

At any rate, you can bet that, as we speak, media giants are taking private briefings on how the election season would proceed if she drops out. They’re preparing their talking points and tall stories and outright lies. All somehow culminating in a Democrat Party victory this November, come hell or high water.

“After Congressional leaders begged President Obama to stay on for several months, he reluctantly agreed, saying: ‘Well, I do have sixty or seventy executive orders drawn up and ready to go, so perhaps I could bring the country a little closer to the future we envision. We’re all in this together.’”

Jon Rappoport

Wind

13th September 2016, 18:14

It's undeniable now, Hillary is unlikely to be fit for president unless she makes a remarkable recovery from whatever has been troubling her for several years. I think we all know that's unlikely.

Also it's highly unlikely that they could cure psychopathy.

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Cidersomerset

13th September 2016, 18:53

US media accused of burying concerns over Clinton health

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton reportedly kept her pneumonia diagnosis secret from most of her staff,
thinking it may have been used against her by opponents. The Democratic nominee
was diagnosed on Friday, however the issue only came to light two days later after
she fell ill at 9/11 ceremony in New York. Speaking on Monday Clinton confessed that
she didn't expect it to be such a big deal.

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This is a question I raised earlier in the thread ?

In wake of health scare, is Clinton replaceable?

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Published on 13 Sep 2016

Strategy Room: David Mercer and Brad Blakeman discuss Hillary Clinton's health
and whether the DNC will consider replacing her as their Presidential candidate

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Ill or not Trump benefits:...Clinton camp doubles down on Hillary's 'deplorable' comment

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
Press secretary Brian Fallon says Donald Trump continues to court support
from 'deplorable elements of society'

Trump Invites 'Deplorables' on Stage at North Carolina Rally
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Citizen No2

13th September 2016, 18:59

@ bearcow:

This is the cover story to muddy the waters and marginalize the opposition. They are giving it legs to take people off the scent that she has a serious health condition. don't fall for it.

Oh I don't doubt it. I was posting merely for the hand comparison, nothing else.

Regards.

Cidersomerset

13th September 2016, 19:18

Hillary Clinton takes another day off the campaign trail for pneumonia

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton is spending another day at home recovering from pneumonia,
but says she didn't think her diagnosis was "that big a deal." CBS News'
Nancy Cordes has the latest from Chappaqua, New York.

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Here comes the Cavalry.......Courtesy of CIA NN

I'm surprised they have not raised the prospect of a third term ......Yet ....LOL ,
There were conspiracy theory about this back along.

Obama hits campaign trail as Clinton recovers

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
President Obama is preparing to hit the campaign trail for Hillary Clinton as
she recovers from pneumonia. CNN's Athena Jones has the latest.

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Obama: I am really into electing Hillary Clinton

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
President Barack Obama hits the campaign trail for Democratic nominee Hillary
Clinton in Philadelphia, stating that he isn't going through the motions and wants
to see Clinton elected.

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Well anything goes in US elections , shortly after calling Hillary a liar in a national
campaign add he invited her into his cabinet. Of course this goes on all over the
place and is what turns many off politics , especially the hypocrisy afterwards.

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Published on 6 Mar 2016

ALSO WATCH: Hillary Clinton is UNELECTABLE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpu3K...
Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected... and change nothing.

Cidersomerset

13th September 2016, 19:27

This is from the same U'tube link and sums up politics.Since 2008 the list has only
got worse Libya , e mails,Clinton foundation , lies corruption and attempted
medical deception. Granted not all illegal but certainly morally questionable and
there are probably crimes in there somewhere that no one will prosecute.....

Obama reminds us of Hillary Clinton's Track Record - 2008

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Published on 31 Mar 2016
Then Senator Obama stump speech to Pennsylvania voters in 2008.
Reminds us of Hillary's greatest consistency, inconsistency.

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The ' FAMILY' rallies around......The Don....

Former President: 'Billy Liar'....Hillary Clinton 'Doing Fine'

" The same thing has happened to her before , when she has been ..... "

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton told PBS' Charlie Rose that Hillary Clinton
was "doing fine" after a good night's sleep. He also said that if she has any serious
health problems, it's a mystery to him and to her doctors. (Sept. 13)

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Chelsea Clinton Touts Mother's Education Plans ( not asked about mothers health in this clip )

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Published on 13 Sep 2016
Chelsea Clinton returned to North Carolina on Tuesday to lead discussions on her
mother's economic platform at Wake Forest University. (Sept. 13)

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Longer version and commentary....

" She's worked like a demon as you know " http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V7rKuvJL85k/R96u8gS39GI/AAAAAAAAADE/GDpbSJAyYu0/S230/Hillary+Demon.jpg

Bill Clinton addresses Hillary Clinton's health

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Published on 12 Sep 2016
Former President Bill Clinton sat down with Charlie Rose to discuss Hillary's health.
CBS News congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes takes a look at the interview.

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Bill Clinton addresses Clinton foundation controversy

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Published on 12 Sep 2016
Former president Bill Clinton sat down in an interview with Charlie Rose, and
addressed the transparency of the Clinton Foundation. He said the foundation is
as "transparent as it can be." See the interview clip here.

MorningSong

13th September 2016, 20:28

Here is a vid by Doug Hagmann ( of The Hagmann & Hagmann Report ) presenting his analysis of HC's recent health issues and advises us to look beyond the distraction and try to forsee what might happen if the election in November is called off or how HC could be replaced by another candidate...

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MorningSong

13th September 2016, 21:07

,,,back to topic....

I just found this interesting article, trying to get all the doubts and info in one place. Here's a snippet:

It Gets Even Stranger!

A few months ago, the London Daily Mail Newspaper did a story about a woman who earns $10,000 a month as a Hillary Clinton Impersonator. The woman’s name is Teresa Barnswell. Here’s a photo of Ms. Barnswell:

http://i0.wp.com/www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/HillaryBodyDouble.jpg?w=306

The London Daily Mail, one of the oldest, largest and most well-respected newspapers in London, England, called her “greatest Hillary lookalike in the world” and you can still read their story HERE

Teresa Barnswell has her own Twitter feed, and guess what she Tweeted late Sunday afternoon? Get a load of this:

http://i0.wp.com/www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/HillaryImpersonatorTweet.png?resize=560%2C371

Yes, she’s hinting that she’s in New York City . . . and what is the building in the background? Chelsea Clinton’s Home on East 26th St!

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wabc-tv-ch-7-in-nyc-reports-hillary-clintons-death-and-body-double/170072

sunwings

13th September 2016, 21:52

After watching the Bill Clinton interview I feel he has put the alternative media community at ease! (except for when he referred to Hilary as a Demon and talked about Martians coming to earth from outer space) But apart from that...it was a normal 80 second interview.

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Satori

14th September 2016, 01:31

I'm going to say something that is on my mind and have stated or alluded to in other posts.

No reasonable minds can dispute that HRC is suffering from a chronic illness. Even the DNC is considering contingency plans. Her poor and declining health makes her legally and constitutionally unqualified for the office of President. Yet, the shadow powers continue to force her upon the American public. Why? (Further, why, if she is a true American patriot, does she not graciously step aside?). Like 9/11/01 when the WTC buildings were destroyed etc..., we are now being told by MSM not to believe what we saw with our own eyes on 9/11/16 when HRC was wobbling, unable to take any steps and essentially dragged into the SUV. We are being told, again, to also ignore our independent research and judgement and our own personal experiences about such illnesses as Parkinson's, just like we have been and are being told to ignore what we have studied and learned about 9/11.

Let there be no mistake or denying, based upon your own observations and numerous credible medical opinions, Clinton is very ill. Thus, legally, she is not qualified for this high office or any other office of such responsibility and trust. Yet, she is being pushed upon us. Again, why?

Given her medical history, not only is it fair and reasonable to question and challenge her qualifications, on medical grounds alone, to be President of the USA, it is fair and reasonable to again consider her email security breaches and other aspects of her role as Secretary of State--such as Benghazi. Her medical condition did not develop over night or in the past few months. Who closest to Clinton was then and is now calling the shots? Who will be calling the shots if she is in the Whitehouse? The FBI knows more about these matters than those in control will let on. Treasonous it all is.

Yes, all presidents have there confidants and handlers. Trump will too. But Trump is not disqualified from the office of president due to health issues. Clinton will, among other things, be easily manipulated due the her poor health. Trump won't.

Ask yourself: If Clinton is in the Whitehouse, who will for all intends and purposes be the President? Are you cool with that?

mojo

14th September 2016, 01:35

wonder if anyone knew this?

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James Newell

14th September 2016, 03:50

I find this video interesting about the catheter in Hillary's pantsuit.
On the video of her falling into the car on 9/11 something came out of her pant leg. It was probably that. It must of broke when she fell.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM

TargeT

14th September 2016, 03:54

So... This is an interesting take on the whole situation... Hillary collapse: Another False Flag?

mr9w9EocvOY

Cidersomerset

14th September 2016, 06:33

So... This is an interesting take on the whole situation... Hillary collapse: Another False Flag?

Good little vid was the " Basket of deplorables " a final PR straw ?
Among a pile of other problems her team and backers are finding
harder to cover up.

bluestflame

14th September 2016, 08:19

yeah dunno , any motives for falking a vid or is an edited version of the original been made up to descredit the original ? the lengths some people go to YXbTgAmplhM

TargeT

14th September 2016, 12:36

yeah dunno , any motives for falking a vid or is an edited version of the original been made up to descredit the original ? the lengths some people go to YXbTgAmplhM

I wonder if that can be explained by a digital sensor?

But like the video I posted before said.. this shot is so steady it seems like it's a shoulder rig, or something on a gimbal system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal) not just a random person with a smartphone.

so the lead Security (or handler, or doctor.. what ever he may actually be) guy having half his face disappear when he bends over to open the door is pretty weird.

Flash

14th September 2016, 13:48

this is very interesting, it sounds somewhat true, absolutely crazy but true. If it is the case, elite has fallen on their head, going that far was not necessary. If it is the truth and she refuses to go, they will get rid of her, and she knows it, they are covering the tracks right now because she must have a whole lot of information they do not want the public to know.

Whatever it is, it is very clumsy because about everyone can now see something is fishy somewhere.

Watch Farsight video for September, they tell the rest of the story as well (they were spot on this month), this will lead to an international event, how will they spin it to their war like advantage, I do not know yet.

So... This is an interesting take on the whole situation... Hillary collapse: Another False Flag?

mr9w9EocvOY

Cidersomerset

14th September 2016, 15:09

A couple of interesting articles from todays headline page the second vid is
speculating what happens if Hillary had to step down, included bizarrely is Chelsea
Clinton ? He explains in the vid which was posted before Chelsea did a interview
yesterday . Seems very unlikely though .... Also would openly be dynasty building
just like North Korea...LOL

In some respects the 2016 US election is straight out of a 1970/80's power elite
soap opera certainly with the Clintons and the Trumps... Following in the footsteps
of those lovable Dallas oil rogues 'JR' no G W Bush senior and junior , with various
supporting villainous cast members and some good guys & gals making up the
various administrations.....

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Though recently the race has started resembling the Clantons & the Mc Coys...

US...North Korea political dynasties ...LOL.....over 300 million people in the US
and they still come up with scenario's of George , George , Jeb. Bill , Hill, Chelsea ?
and most of the other inbred's are related , ultimately to King John of England
of Robin Hood fame. Which brings us to the Windsors , no we will leave that for
now......

http://media.i24news.tv/upload/cache/medium_image/upload/image/afp-885317f6ebfdca6c6bf030ecf42b593d3cd591f8.jpg

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Chelsea's Apartment has same address as a medical facility - Hillary's secret hospital?

By David on 14 September 2016 GMT

‘A Presidential candidate collapses at a ceremony in NYC…and is shoved,
unconscious, by SS into a van like a side of beef and rushed off…not to
one of the many world-class hospitals and clinics nearby…but to her
daughter’s $11M apartment.

Sound odd? It did to me.

So I looked up a bit about Chelsea’s new apt.:
THE WHITMAN, 21 EAST 26TH STREET, 4 – FLATIRON DISTRICT, NEW YORK
[link to www.elliman.com]

I discovered that it exactly shares an address with:

METROCARE HOME SERVICES, INC.
21 East 26th Street, 4th Fl
New York, NY 10010
[link to profiles.health.ny.gov ]

SAME address..SAME Floor…only One Apt. per floor.

For a woman very secretive about her ambiguous medical conditions…
whom avoids hospitals like the plague, it occurred to me that when the
Clinton’s bought this incredibly expensive apt. for their daughter in 2013
…they may have also purchased it with the intent of using it as a secret
private medical treatment facility for Hillary to use during her anticipated
campaign.’

Read more: Chelsea’s Apartment has same address as a medical facility
– Hillary’s secret hospital?

http://www.govtslaves.info/chelseas-apt-has-same-address-as-a-medical-facility-hillarys-secret-hospital/

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Still Report #1185 – Are Clinton’s Replacement Talks Underway?

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12 sept

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CIA NN......

Poll: Trump holds narrow lead over Clinton in Ohio

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Republican nominee Donald Trump has opened up a five-point lead over
Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in Ohio, according to a new Bloomberg poll.

Dems fighting back....

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Cidersomerset

14th September 2016, 20:07

A word from James Corbett.....

Yes, Mainstream Media Bias is Getting Ridiculous...But Why?

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Have you noticed how over-the-top ridiculous the mainstream propaganda is
getting during this (s)election cycle? Of course you have. And so have most of your
mainstream-believing friends and co-workers. So why is the MSM pushing this in
the public's face? Is there an agenda at play here?

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Flu.....When CIA NN are 'dissing you ' you know summits up......Yes I'm bored...LOL

Bill Clinton flubs Hillary diagnosis at campaign event

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Bill Clinton may have caused his ailing wife another political headache when
he said Wednesday she was suffering from the flu, not pneumonia.

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Hillary Clinton releases detailed medical documents

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Hillary Clinton's campaign released new information updating the public on her
health including a detailed list of medications, vaccinations and lab test results.
CNN's Sanjay Gupta reports.

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First clip released of Donald Trump on 'Dr. Oz'

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Donald Trump appeared on "The Dr. Oz Show" and released the results of a recent
physical exam. CNN's Brooke Baldwin reports.

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New details about Hillary Clinton's health released

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Campaign: Clinton being treated for noncontagious bacterial pneumonia

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Ed Klein: Not the first time Clinton has collapsed

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Published on 14 Sep 2016
Journalist and author explains how Hillary's health issues go years back

Eram

14th September 2016, 21:03

So... This is an interesting take on the whole situation... Hillary collapse: Another False Flag?

mr9w9EocvOY

Mehh,

Clinton does not seem like a person who will ever give up her dream of becoming prez. Even if it will kill her.

IF it's staged (which I don't think is the case), then I would rather think that it will act as a pretext to avoid the debates with Trump, because those debated with likely ruin any chance left to win the race.

Carmody

14th September 2016, 21:35

Last gasps are all about pulling out all the stops. When the win is so unlikely, that's when the 'over the top' chances are taken.

Or, conversely, when the win is so assured, that nothing can stop the outcome, then the chances are taken.

In both cases, exposure of position and agenda can and does take place.

The media has, or is, running in a mode of EXTREME exposure, extreme visibility of their bias, to the point that it is suspected that the media system will NEVER regain their prior position, all from this level of bias shown, this level of exposure of their bias and controlled structure.

This means it is looking like an END MOVE scenario. Maximum chances taken, cover stories thrown away, running down the street naked, full exposure of agenda and self. The kind of scenario where the final ending point is all that matters for their given desires and to hell with any other potential outcome.

All of this means ....the situation is very dangerous. For if the entire mainstream media DOES NOT CARE about the fallout for their future, then..what the hell is she bringing to the world in the aftermath of her winning the election? What exactly would it be, in a world where the near total destruction of the media's position is a thing they don't care about at all? This is what should be horrifying you, alarming you, awakening you...all arm bells possible should be going off.

Think about it. Mainstream media is the hypnotic for the USA masses and they just thew all of mainstream media under the bus, where it will be crushed, no matter the outcome of this election.

So, what exactly is going on out there, that no-one is telling the public about?

Bob

14th September 2016, 21:52

Hillary Clinton was on Levaquin (Levofloxacin).

Just pointing out that and CIPRO (Ciprofloxacin) is used to treat inhalation anthrax.. Which can present as pneumonia..

Just more food for thought about how/what she is being treated for..
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190044/)
Levofloxacin is a MORE potent antibiotic.. That and Cipro can have some pretty severe side effects..

(But I suppose inhalation anthrax has as well) :nerd:

references:
Levofloxacin should be used only when treatment with first-line therapies is hampered by patient drug tolerance issues or antimicrobial resistance patterns (Stern et al., 2008).

Weaponized Anthrax would qualify as "antibiotic resistant", spores cultured to be antibiotic resistant.. Gee.. who out there (russianz) would have weaponized anthrax..

above post by Carmody, a question:
So, what exactly is going on out there, that no-one is telling the public about?

dohh..

bluestflame

14th September 2016, 23:46

carmody is right

PurpleLama

15th September 2016, 00:30

bluestflame

15th September 2016, 00:32

PurpleLama

15th September 2016, 00:37

James Newell

15th September 2016, 01:37

According to Roger Stone on an infowars segment, some of his high level dem contacts say Michelle Obama (formerly known as Michael) is being considered for her replacement.

Sierra

15th September 2016, 01:46

can only hope .. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/29/22/a7/2922a752754bdc69c347aa1f8a6cf386.jpg and yet while the current hydra system remains, one head lost will only grow another to take its place

Two or three will grow, at least, if Carmody is correct.

Can they cancel an election just because one party effed up with their candidate? Not according to the law of the land, methinks?

According to the video Cider posted, Bill has put together a team to address just that issue, can they put in another candidate if Hilary collapses again? The video states no one knows what is really wrong with Hilary, because she refuses to go to a doctor, frightened the results would come out to the public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsShzXR3dbI

AutumnW

15th September 2016, 02:15

OMG, that pic of Hillary as Oz witch is funny! I'm sure elections can be delayed? I suppose it would be precedent setting. Obama shouldn't start dusting his gold clubs off any time soon.

bluestflame

15th September 2016, 02:36

waiting on confirmation for this one PHQLQ1Rc_Js

Flash

15th September 2016, 03:53

Psychopathy evaluation of Trump and Clinton by Oxford professor: Trump higher than Hitler and Hilary higher than the psychopaths of the Roman Empire. They both rate as very high psychopaths on the psychopatic scale.

Donald Trump has more psychopathic traits than Adolf Hitler, according to a a new study.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-psychopath-researcher-oxford-university-kevin-dutton-a7204706.html

Using a standard psychometric tool, Dr Kevin Dutton of Oxford University ranked both presidential candidates and a series of historical world figures.

Trump scored 171, achieving two more points than Adolf Hitler, after experts gave their suggestions on how each individual would have scored against a series of questions.

Saddam Hussein topped the list, scoring 189, while presidential hopeful Hilary Clinton received a score of 152, placing her in the top 20 per cent.

The method, known as the Psychopathtic Personality Inventory – Revised (PPI-R), scores candidates based on eight traits, including fearlessness, stress immunity and cold-heartedness

onawah

15th September 2016, 04:01

Leaked Colin Powell emails reveal Clinton's apparent disdain for Obama
Jake Novak, CNBC 9/14/16
All is probably not so well behind the scenes on the DNC campaign trail
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Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama in Beijing, China in 2009.

When news broke that former Secretary of State Colin Powell's emails were hacked, just about every mainstream media headline read: "Colin Powell calls Donald Trump a 'national disgrace.'"

I get the punch that headline packs. But it misses the bigger takeaway from those leaked emails: They are far more damaging to Hillary Clinton than to Donald Trump.

The "revelation" that Powell has disdain for Trump can't be much of a surprise given his past endorsement of President Barack Obama and the fact that so many of his fellow generals and national security peers have publicly pushed back against the Republican nominee for months. Plus, seeing Trump being called a national disgrace or worse in the news media is pretty much an hourly occurrence in America these days and he's still surging in the polls.

Far more damaging are the emails where Powell discusses Clinton, her email scandal, her health, and her apparent hatred of President Obama. I suspect each of these suddenly very current topics, and not the slam on Trump, are the real reason why the alleged hacking outfit, DCLeaks.com chose to publish the emails now.

With Clinton's email scandal still very much in the news, it's disastrous that several of the hacked Powell emails contain his strong explanation of how his use of private email was fully legal and Clinton's was not. He also expresses serious anger at the Clinton campaign's attempts to compare her conduct and email server use to his own while he was Secretary of State. The emails show Powell has been concerned about this issue for more than a year and expressed frustrations with how Clinton has approached the scandal and his own relationship to it. And based on his anger over how the Clinton campaign handled the issue, the emails make it seem like Powell would have otherwise publicly endorsed Clinton over Trump by now. That endorsement is something one of Powell's Democratic email correspondents says would be a "knockout blow."

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Even more timely are the references Powell makes to Clinton's health in a series of emails with Jeffrey Leeds, who heads the Leeds Equity Partners investment firm and is also a top Democratic party donor. Powell is a member of the Leeds Partners advisory board. In one email to Leeds, Powell writes that Clinton "does not look good" and is "working herself to death." Leeds also weighs in on the Clinton email scandal and added that "nobody likes her."

But the truly most damaging thing for the Clinton campaign in this pile of hacked emails are the discussions about President Obama and how Clinton apparently feels about him personally. Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's liberal supporters will clearly forgive her for almost anything — from lying to the FBI to lying to everyone else about her health. But any evidence that shows she does not like their untouchable hero in President Obama will be the toughest pill to swallow.

In several emails from Leeds to Powell, Leeds says that Clinton hates and envies the president in the extreme. Leeds adds that she will sometimes refer to President Obama as "that man." Finally, Leeds tells Powell that the Obama team wouldn't mind seeing Clinton lose. The timing on this couldn't be more devastating — it comes just as President Obama is taking to the campaign trail to help Clinton while she recovers from her medical problems.

To be clear, this is secondhand information — it's according to Leeds (and from his hacked emails, no less), not from Clinton herself. However, if you ask me, it's still pretty damaging.

Remember when Republican infighting and questions about Trump's fitness to serve were the big issues in this election? There's nothing like seeing your opponent have to face the same challenges from her own camp to level the playing field. The downward spiral for Clinton that began with the release of her FBI questioning transcript and continued with her public medical episode and questionable explanations for it, is now spinning at full speed with these hacked Powell emails.

You can focus on those "national disgrace" headlines all you want, but the damaging trend for the Clinton campaign has just been given yet another serious push.

Commentary by Jake Novak, CNBC.com senior columnist. Follow him on Twitter @jakejakeny.

Chester

15th September 2016, 14:39

It was Hillary's folks who started the "birther" movement (2008) which most (even Trump's folks) seems to have forgotten... probably something Obama hasn't.

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Psychopathy evaluation of Trump and Clinton by Oxford professor: Trump higher than Hitler and Hilary higher than the psychopaths of the Roman Empire. They both rate as very high psychopaths on the psychopatic scale.

Donald Trump has more psychopathic traits than Adolf Hitler, according to a a new study.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-psychopath-researcher-oxford-university-kevin-dutton-a7204706.html

Using a standard psychometric tool, Dr Kevin Dutton of Oxford University ranked both presidential candidates and a series of historical world figures.

Trump scored 171, achieving two more points than Adolf Hitler, after experts gave their suggestions on how each individual would have scored against a series of questions.

Saddam Hussein topped the list, scoring 189, while presidential hopeful Hilary Clinton received a score of 152, placing her in the top 20 per cent.

The method, known as the Psychopathtic Personality Inventory – Revised (PPI-R), scores candidates based on eight traits, including fearlessness, stress immunity and cold-heartedness

as for what we can expect from "The Independent" -

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1562617

These days it's important to examine information in light of the inherent bias emanating from the information source... nothing new to most readers here. When we do that, we are able to see the agenda is driving the information.

Cidersomerset

15th September 2016, 15:13

CIA NN.....The Witch is not dead......

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Clinton: Trump runs 'deplorable campaign'

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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton says Donald Trump is running a "deplorable campaign."

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Closer Look at the Health of Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump
ABC News

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Published on 15 Sep 2016
ABC News' chief health and medical editor, Dr. Richard Besser, discusses both
candidates' recently released medical information.

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Zaya

15th September 2016, 17:47

Hillary just made her first public appearance since her strange publicity stunt outside of Chelsea's apartment. she was boarding a plane to North Carolina to get back on the campaign trail and did a short on camera interview.

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Cidersomerset

15th September 2016, 18:46

Congress Subpoenaed FBI Live on TV! Is This The End For Hillary?

By David on 15 September 2016

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Published on 12 Sep 2016

BOOM!!! The FBI was just served papers in front of the whole world! Who's
head is going to roll? Director Comey? Hillary? Huma?

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ABC NEWS...

Lawmaker Issues Subpoena to FBI for Clinton Probe Records
By richard lardner, associated press

WASHINGTON — Sep 12, 2016, 7:13 PM ET

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Jason Herring, Acting Assistant Director for Congressional Affairs at the FBI, is served
a subpoena to provide the FBI's full investigative file during the House Oversight and
Government Reform Committee hearing on classifications and redactions in FBI's
investigative file of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in Washington, Monday,
Sept. 12, 2016, (AP Photo/Molly Riley)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/gop-led-panel-question-officials-fbi-probe-clinton-42038164

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Roger Stone: ‘If Hillary’s Too Sick, the DNC Will Replace Her with Michelle Obama’

By David on 15 September 2016 GMT

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Published on 13 Sep 2016

Roger Stone joins Steve to discuss Hillary’s health & her describing Trump supporters as ‘Deplorables’