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ThePythonicCow
17th September 2016, 06:56
According to the main stream news, Hillary Clinton returns -- and not a moment too soon (CNN) (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/hillary-clinton-greensboro-north-carolina/):

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Greensboro, North Carolina (CNN)

Hillary Clinton returned to the campaign trail Thursday, four days after her near fainting spell, with little room for another misstep.

The moment she took the stage, Clinton addressed the topic that has overwhelmed headlines since Sunday: Her health. She acknowledged to the Greensboro, North Carolina, crowd that being forced to stay at home following her pneumonia diagnosis at such a crucial moment in the election wasn't easy to stomach.

"As you may know, I recently had a cough that turned out to be pneumonia. I tried to power through it but even I had to admit that maybe a few days of rest would do me good," Clinton said, after walking out into a school gymnasium to James Brown's "I Got You (I Feel Good)." "I'm not great at taking it easy even under ordinary circumstances, but with just two months to go until Election Day, sitting at home was pretty much the last place I wanted to be."
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Here's the video of her 15 Sept 2016 speech in Greensboro, North Carolina:
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If you go frame by frame, starting at 20:51 into the speech, you will see the following 30 frames:

http://thepythoniccow.us/hillary_green_screen.png
Thanks to Jim Stone, at jimstone.is (http://82.221.129.208/basepaged3.html) for pointing this out.

Jim reports that there were two instances in this video in which the background persisted, but the overlay of Hillary Clinton flickered in and out, with the other instance being at 21:14.

This is not a simple flickering in and out of the ordinary video stream from the event ... it is strong proof that the video of Hillary was being overlayed (called green screening) and that the real Hillary was likely somewhere else.

More fake news.

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P.S. -- Amazing: While I was preparing this post, they changed the Youtube video. Now the portion with the troubling video, from 21:25 to 23:08 shows dual video images, side by side - one with the flickering Hillary overlay, and one with Hillary's image remaining solid, as in this frame:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Dual_Hillary_Screenshot_2016-09-15.png

sunwings
17th September 2016, 08:21
In a sometimes bizarre speech, GOP nominee went off-script to call for his rival’s bodyguards to ‘disarm immediately’ – adding, ‘Let’s see what happens to her’

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shaberon
17th September 2016, 11:59
Bizarre. Why does it look like a zipper as soon as she disappears?

I thought about trucking up there to see if she was really there, had a train of clones, robots, or a scarecrow, and then realized I didn't care enough to wake up. Sorry to drop the vigil.

And if you were going to edit the thing, why wouldn't you just put in the still picture?!?

Also from article--says phone screens do not match the environment:

http://82.221.129.208/hillarysgone.jpg

Akasha
17th September 2016, 12:47
Not 100% convinced. could be broadcast scrambling? Carmody??

ThePythonicCow
17th September 2016, 14:31
P.S. -- Amazing: While I was preparing this post, they changed the Youtube video. Now the portion with the troubling video, from 21:25 to 23:08 shows dual video images, side by side - one with the flickering Hillary overlay, and one with Hillary's image remaining solid, as in this frame:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Dual_Hillary_Screenshot_2016-09-15.png

And if you were going to edit the thing, why wouldn't you just put in the still picture?!?
Perhaps they did the dual video images, side by side, in their edit, because they wanted us (the "conspiracy theory inclined" amongst us, which would include myself) to see that this might have been green screened.

Rense has an intriguing bit of analysis and speculation at Hillary's Body Double…It's All In The Nose!
They Are Gambling People Won't Notice (http://rense.com/general96/doublefnl.htm).

Rense is noticing a difference in the tip of the nose of the "Hillary" who spoke on Greensboro, North Carolina on 15 Sep 2016, and the "real Hillary". Rense figures that the Greensboro Hillary is a clone. I suspect he's right, but I can't be sure. If her Greensboro appearance was green-screened, then having us conspiracy theorists arguing over whether or not Hillary was actually present in Greensboro, or whether they used video trickery to make it appear she was there, distracts from what might be the next layer of the lie -- that it wasn't the "real" Hillary at all.

Or, perhaps, the hidden layers go even deeper. Perhaps "they" intend for Hillary's campaign to be deeply discredited, in the eyes of some of us, while others are left raging over (what they see as) the sabatoging of her campaign by the "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it, ... deplorables," (http://www.vox.com/2016/9/10/12872596/hillary-clinton-trump-deplorables) including Putin and Trump (and which no doubt includes in the view of Hillary supporters, "right wing conspiracy theory nut jobs" ... such as myself.)

If Job Number One, regarding Americans, on the agenda of the elite bastards, is to get as many Americans as possible totally disallusioned with their government ... the elite are doing a fine job, very fine.

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In any case, I suspect that all the chatter about Hillary being dead, or Hillary dropping out, or Hillary being forced out, and about who might replace her, whether that be her Vice Presidential (VP) nominee Tim Kaine, or current VP Joe Biden, or the defeated Democrat party candidate Bernie Sanders, or the current first lady Michelle Obama ... perhaps that's all part of the drama.

Perhaps the real replacement for the ailing Hillary is (are) Hillary's double(s).

Carmody
17th September 2016, 15:20
If such a thing be true, then.....

It could be that the stitching together of the video, frame by frame, was a problem.... due to the choice of backdrop vs the choice of clothing (colors). Too close together in the color palette.

Research would have to be done on the aspect of how the exact potential software -- discriminates. And what it then does, in a discrimination issue. We're talking about software routines, and how they might conduct a separation or fill. There is a difference between a live green screen effort vs that of a studio/film green screen effort.

In the case of a major film, it can be very well controlled. In the case of a live production, or done quickly, it has to be trusted to automated software, self discriminating software, and potential glitches and small errors have to be accepted.

Bill Ryan
17th September 2016, 15:25
If such a thing be true, then.....

It could be that the stitching together of the video, frame by frame, was a problem.... due to the choice of backdrop vs the choice of clothing(colors). Too close together in the color palette.

Research would have to be done on the aspect of how the exact potential software -- discriminates. And what it then does, in a discrimination issue. We're talking about software routines, and how they might conduct a separation or fill.

FWIW -- I'm hardly a professional, but I do have quite a lot of amateur video editing experience, as of course do quite a few other members here -- I know of absolutely no way that a person could disappear from a sequence of frames against a background, unless it was a composite from two separate layers.

PurpleLama
17th September 2016, 15:27
There is also the impersonation software, face2face (http://www.graphics.stanford.edu/~niessner/thies2016face.html), to consider. I wonder if it's use would produce a similar phenomenon.

kerrielea
17th September 2016, 15:48
Speaking of body doubles... check out this video comparing these two hands.

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MorningSong
17th September 2016, 16:50
Now the Triad area (NC) is where I grew up and where a lot of my family has always lived....and if there's anything a home boy or girl knows is the name of the local newspapers... so I went and had had a peek...

This pict is from the article in the Winston-Salem Journal which I thought had the best selection....

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/journalnow.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/19/9199290e-e009-5619-94ec-580f12304a17/57dc009eb8eb3.image.jpg?resize=937%2C620

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/journalnow.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/cf/5cf01718-16d5-5819-b8c3-86e6deb1bc1b/57dc009f8edb6.image.jpg?resize=1022%2C620

I don't see any red and white stripes on a backdrop, do you?

But here, I do see something that looks like flag stripes back in the background...

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/journalnow.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/85/b857ca78-d3b3-5468-991c-73e48554f01c/57dc009cc6f23.image.jpg?resize=945%2C620

There are lots of picts to chose from...

http://www.journalnow.com/gallery/news/hillary-clinton-at-uncg/collection_538120ff-2d68-517f-853f-6537a80b7886.html

And if I may..... According to Wiki, "The Piedmont Triad (or simply the Triad) is a north-central region of the U.S. state of North Carolina that consists of the area within and surrounding the three major cities of Greensboro, Winston-Salem, and High Point. This close group or "triad" of cities lies in the Piedmont geographical region of the United States and forms the basis of the Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point CSA. The area of the triad is approximately 5,954 square miles.[citation needed] The metropolitan area is connected by Interstates 40, 85, 73, & 74 and is served by the Piedmont Triad International Airport. Long known as one of the primary manufacturing and transportation hubs of the southeastern United States, the Triad is also an important educational and cultural region and occupies a prominent place in the history of the American Civil Rights Movement. The Triad is not to be confused with the "Triangle" region (Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill), directly to the east. As of 2012, the Piedmont Triad has an estimated population of 1,611,243 making it the 33rd largest CSA metropolitan area in the United States. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Triad

The University of North Carolina at Greensboro is considered a cultural hub, let's say... and yet only about 500 people were at her fling... THAT says a lot (to me) about how her fans in the area ae waning. I don't believe that they left 1000 standing ourside either.. there were certainly lots af space still in that comons area where the rally was held (just look at other fotos in the links below.



There were varying estimates Thursday on just how many people came, ranging from 500 to 1,500.

More than 1,000 remained outside the UNCG venue, waiting to see the Democratic nominee for president, when officials deemed the hall filled and closed the door.

At one point, the line stretched about half a mile.


http://www.greensboro.com/news/government/elections/hillary-clinton-talks-health-run-for-president-in-greensboro-video/article_5fd1ed1e-c7d0-5abe-9136-f90de198e327.html

http://www.greensboro.com/news/hillary-clinton-to-campaign-at-uncg-thursday-afternoon/article_5fd1ed1e-c7d0-5abe-9136-f90de198e327.html


Hillary Clinton’s Greensboro, North Carolina Rally: The Photos You Need to See

Published 4:37 pm EDT, September 15, 2016 Updated 4:51 pm EDT, September 15, 2016

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/hillary-clinton-greensboro-north-carolina-rally-photos-returns-after-pneumonia-pictures-health-speech-how-is-she-protests-crowd-pics/5/

ThePythonicCow
17th September 2016, 17:04
It could be that the stitching together of the video, frame by frame, was a problem.... due to the choice of backdrop vs the choice of clothing (colors). Too close together in the color palette.
When someone green screen's, what matters is that they aren't wearing clothes the same color as, or similar to, the (usually green, for being far from skin color) video taped background. Then the inserted fake background, that replaces the green background during editing, can be any dang image or color you want, including closely matching the speaker or their clothes.

(does that mean that green Martians use a "pink screen" technique? :))

ThePythonicCow
17th September 2016, 17:09
This pict is from the article in the Winston-Salem Journal which I thought had the best selection....

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I don't see any red and white stripes on a backdrop, do you?

Yes! (I mean no, I don't see the red and white striped backdrop, in the newspaper pictures you posted.)

This suggests to me another wild theory - there were two Hillary's speaking - one live, and one for release on Youtube and the network media. I've yet to concoct a persuasive explanation for why they'd do such a thing ... perhaps giving one of her doubles some "live practice."

Excellent observation ... whatever it means.

Hervé
17th September 2016, 17:41
...

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/GettyImages-605903224-640x480.jpg

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screen-shot-2016-09-15-at-3-17-44-pm.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780


Talk to da hand (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93394-Hillary-phones-another-one-in-her-15-Sept-North-Carolina-speech-was-green-screened.&p=1099486&viewfull=1#post1099486)...

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/wabc/images/cms/automation/vod/1507048_1280x720.jpg

http://media.salemwebnetwork.com/saleminteractivemedia/ap/data/photos/2016%5C259%5C3333a175-56a1-4bee-a579-68147aa99c5f.jpg

http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/995/12/2200x/12995033-kvinden-af-kd-og-blod---1.jpg


So... which is the real witch?

Cardillac
17th September 2016, 20:07
it could be H. Clinton has more than one Doppelgänger (we shouldn't rule this out)- H. Clinton is a very mundane-looking person so it wouldn't be difficult to find several look-alikes for her-

I believe her 1st publicaly announced double Theresa Bramwell (thanks MSM) is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that maybe another imposter (looking even more like the real H. Clinton) has taken her MSM role-

I read yrs. ago that H. Clinton had a double; this is nothing new on the high political level; all top Nazis had a least 1 double- Hitler had 6- it goes much, much farther- the person they hanged in Iraq was S. Hussein's double- even S. Husseins sons had doubles; a long story)-

I just find the timing of T. Bramwells existence to be very strange (as the saying goes "the Devil is in the details")-

the biggest difference in the Clinton/Bramwell photos is the wideness of the hips: Hillary has the widest-

I just think we will experience a lot of 'weirdness' in the coming election (if they will even take place- that's another chapter)-

Larry

Magnus
17th September 2016, 20:34
Even considering a disturbance in rendering the overlay in case of "green screening" / "Chroma key", the horizontal segments in a progressive frame would imo likely be widthwise consistent between segments being repeated due to the discontinued video stream of the overlay. The video offers abundant examples where repeated segments are all but widthwise consistent between each other. For example, @ 22:45 a segment showing the top of her head is being repeated all the way down to the bottom of the image, while her right hand and arm to the left in the image seem to run by a separate set of logic, which I personally find rather strange. In my mind there is no doubt it's an overlay and there are so many different types of inconsistencies that it's difficult to know where to start describing them. My understanding of this is all in layman's terms.

onawah
17th September 2016, 20:44
I think it's harder for someone to impersonate another person's voice, isn't it?
Although it would no doubt be easier to interject Hillary lip synching to her double's speech. and harder to trace that as a hoax.

Ernie Nemeth
17th September 2016, 20:46
Very easy to tell the difference when it comes to the fore for scrutiny, isn't it? That last pic is pretty obvious.

neutronstar
17th September 2016, 23:34
Speaking of body doubles... check out this video comparing these two hands.

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What you need to look at is the center of the hand at the lines, they are pretty close as far as I can tell. My hands look different depending on how dried out they get, but the major lines will be the same.

shaberon
18th September 2016, 03:44
Hmm well...I can tell there's a flag in the background, and the video shoot could be framed to capture the middle five of seven red stripes (the outer two each have shadows on them), and be low enough to miss the blue star field, and...eh....good enough to make a flag fifty feet behind her, look like a plastic wall at ten feet. And thus the cell phone shots could also be shots of what's really there.

Not so sure how she and her podium can blink out and turn into a zipper.

I would pretty much expect her to use as many human double stand-ins as they can muster. After all, Ben Fulford's goons could be anywhere.

The ABC bar thing is an overlay. Could that be the source of the glitch? Was it on any non-ABC camera? Or the bullet shields could cause it?

Weird...it looks like she was really there, while an impossible video thing happened...

Atlas
18th September 2016, 10:43
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/people/hillary-green-screen.jpg

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2016/02/063_510456232.jpg
Source: http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-used-green-screen-to-make-a-fake-crowd-in-nevada/

meat suit
18th September 2016, 12:20
have we considered if she is a hologram in that OP video?
surely they could do this much better than the below..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TCJ4N1LpJA

Althena
18th September 2016, 14:02
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onawah
18th September 2016, 16:58
From Forbidden Knowledge
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cgi-nominee/
I've been trying to stay away
from this dreadful topic but this
technical breakdown is impossible
to ignore.
If the Mainstream Media weren't
already in a free-fall collapse, in
terms of its credibility, it should
have a crash landing once people
analyze this video and understand
what's going on.
This is the "pool camera" feed that
went out to the TV networks on
September 15th, covering Hillary
Clinton's alleged campaign rally in
Greensboro, North Carolina. It
comes from from the official
YouTube account of the ABC affiliate
station, ABC15 Arizona.
Anyone can verify this. Take the
original YouTube URL:
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and put it into the field at:
http://rowvid.com
This is a website which enables you to
watch videos at various speeds. Scroll
up to just before minute 20:51 in the
video and play back at 0.25 speed.
You will see very clearly that this shot
is a composite of two video feeds and
one or more graphics feeds.
This becomes very clear, because the
video feed of Hillary's angle drops out,
completely for a moment and all we
see is the background.
If you look at the beginning of the clip,
you will also see cellphone cameras
recording a totally different background,
which strongly suggests that the "crowd"
is yet another composited element of
this video production.
Other feeds of this same event posted to
YouTube, such as that of FOXNEWS
appear to have had a solid connection
with the pool video feed and do not
show this disruption of elements, which
are so easily distinguishable in the
composite that went out to ABC's
Arizona affiliate station.
Apparently, ABC15 Arizona had a
dodgy satellite connection.
These observations are not partisan.
The implications are very disturbing.
That a presidential nominee is staging
false rallies using paid attendees, with
the collusion of the big television news
networks needs to be publicly outed.
Video: (1 and a half mins):
CGI Nominee
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cgi-nominee/

Magnus
18th September 2016, 17:16
have we considered if she is a hologram in that OP video?
surely they could do this much better than the below..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TCJ4N1LpJA

This may be it (or not), the deception is overwhelming at this point.

Magic Leap (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-schkolne/magic-leaps-biggest-secre_b_9423992.html)
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ThePythonicCow
18th September 2016, 21:17
From Forbidden Knowledge
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cgi-nominee/

If you look at the beginning of the clip,
you will also see cellphone cameras
recording a totally different background,
which strongly suggests that the "crowd"
is yet another composited element of
this video production.


This video examines in more detail the video, in slow speed, showing those cellphone cameras at the beginning.

It's just 3 min 17 sec long. I find it further compelling evidence that the various flag backgrounds behind Hillary were NOT in the same place as the crowd apparently watching Hillary.
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Since the folks putting on these Clinton rallies dog and pony shows have been called out before about cell phone cameras showing the wrong thing (my memory is clear on this, though I haven't gone back to find references - sorry), therefore they are either IDIOTS, or else they WANT us (just some of us, perhaps to divide the uppity sheep from the docile sheep) to notice.

turiya
19th September 2016, 00:37
EDIT: Not saying that Hillary's NC speech was a projected Holographic event, but just be aware that this thing could be used in such a way.

CROSS-POSTED ON ANOTHER THREAD (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1099887&viewfull=1#post1099887)...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDR3hSeQ8pk

Journalist Erin Burnett: "What other applications do you foresee with this techinology?"

Founder Alki David: "Education, Military, Politics... it can be applied across the board... the technology has improved so much that you can, in fact, today project a hologram in daytime without the need for darkened spaces."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhl5afLEKdo

HOLOGRAM MALFUNCTION HILLARY CLINTON 2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlHQSkqq__c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwbNdWd7PiM

The World's Largest Election Is Being
Led By A Holographic Politician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSZE3K0wS4

Tv9 Gujarat: After 3D Modi's Hi-Tech campaign
will make his presence felt at 26 places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfIOqYxvmQE

TargeT
19th September 2016, 01:57
even Info wars is in on it
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kerrielea
19th September 2016, 15:06
Here's another take on it:
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kerrielea
19th September 2016, 15:20
This guy has an another viewpoint:
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Zaya
19th September 2016, 16:06
I am not denying the weirdness from the videos posted in the top of the thread. I am a video editor by trade, and I can't quite explain the artifacting you see in that original video, but I also do not work with live stream compressions so I am limited in knowledge in that particular area. It may be possible that that part of the image stays with the stripes because of a weird overlay situation, but it does seem unlikely. I am wondering it it is just repeating the pattern? Probably not, but I don't know. The whole thing seems fishy...

EDIT TO ADD BELOW: I just read an explanation of how Hillary could disappear in the frame yet the stripes still be there over in reddit, and I think it is a really good read, so for those of you willing to examine alternate ideas to the green screen theory, here ya go. I will still leave my alternate video angle below though for further reference for why I still don't think this was a green screen event. As the user on reddit put it:


Notice the frame where it takes a slice of her face and copies it all the way down to the bottom of the screen? If that happened in the tiny area above her head, that could potentially happen. But that is only possible is the background is perfectly straight, if there's any slight angle it would be noticeable.

Edit: I just watched the video properly looking for this. It appears this is what happened. Theres a noticeable change in the able of the background between the frames.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/53a8yv/proof_of_hillarys_speech_being_faked_with_a_green/d7rgr4c


BACK TO ORIGINAL POSTING:
How can you explain away the alternate angle in the video below? (Jump ahead to 55:03 in the video for Hillary's entrance, but you can see the entire arena in wide angle and all the speakers before her and everything before she enters. This would be VERY HARD to green screen like this especially with all the zooming going on, and this was supposedly live, though admittedly I did not watch it live.)

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To me, this second video makes the event seem a lot more likely to have actually happened, but of course most people are ignoring this video. What are your thoughts?

turiya
19th September 2016, 17:50
Thanks for providing this video, Zaya.

I for one, was wanting to see a different angle on when Clinton finished her speech, waived & then pointed to what looked like the back wall with the American flag on it. In this video, it clearly shows she was pointing at the woman holding the sign "Love Trump's Hate."

This puts to bed all the rest of the electronic video glitches that were previously seen to take place - leading to the notion that her speech had been green-screen-room created.

EDIT: Nice avatar, YoYoYo.

Matthew
19th September 2016, 17:53
Not sure about the conclusions so far in the thread. I'm reluctant to voice my opinion to the contrary but I might as well.. because I join those here in saying I'm no expect in the subject too. With such a strong background, and if Killary moved suddenly its feasible in my head the compression or uncompression or rendering glitched. The background is stationary so the uncompression and/or rendering etc is on safe ground to use that. That was my first assumption when I saw the video. Thank you for letting me share my humble point of view, even though it is contrary to the general opinion.

Atlas
19th September 2016, 18:15
I suspect some sort of special effects are involved..
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Hervé
19th September 2016, 18:50
Your clue is displayed with this video display frame:


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A horizontal slice is repeated down in a loop... if that slice contains only the vertical stripes of the flag and is repeated down... one only sees and assumed fixed background without Hillary... if the slice includes Hillary's head top... it gets repeated down giving off the zipper effect... and so on.

turiya
19th September 2016, 19:53
Here's another video... The conclusion this individual came to was that the pictures on the smart phones were showing a different scene.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97j5j7ildw

However, I find that if you focus on an obvious distinctive (bright blue) colored object in the widescreen shot, and then look for it displayed within the screens of the individual cell phones, I've come to find that (for most) they all show the same distinctive colored object - In this case it was the brighter blue sign that says "Stonger Together".


http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/AVALON/TRUMP/HILLARY_GREENSBORO_NC_1_and_2.png

uzn
19th September 2016, 21:35
Herve is right on. I work with digitised footage on a daily Basis. The disappearing act of Hillary is just a glitch in the compression codec used in the broadcast. One has to understand how These compression algorithms work. The Codec seperates the static parts of a video from the moving parts. If there is a Little part not broadcasted the codec will try to compensate and fills the rest of the static part of the Video with parts that Kind of fit. After a second the codec has gotten enough new info to get the moving parts and the static ones sync again. Thats what you are seeing in the Hillary Video. To tell it in a few words: The broadcast got interupted for a tiny bit, and the codec first tries to do the best of the Situation and then get it together again. Different codecs produce different effects if they are disrupted. Anyway, the crowd seems to be a Composite layer since the Phones Show a different Scene.

shaberon
19th September 2016, 23:30
Codec theory makes sense, i. e. a software solution vs. a hardware one. Sort of like how a good program can compensate for a dropped internet packet instead of freezing or crashing. Wonder if there were any analog videos, or if they even use those any more.

Dianamar
20th September 2016, 00:53
I am not denying the weirdness from the videos posted in the top of the thread. I am a video editor by trade, and I can't quite explain the artifacting you see in that original video, but I also do not work with live stream compressions so I am limited in knowledge in that particular area. It may be possible that that part of the image stays with the stripes because of a weird overlay situation, but it does seem unlikely. I am wondering it it is just repeating the pattern? Probably not, but I don't know. The whole thing seems fishy...

EDIT TO ADD BELOW: I just read an explanation of how Hillary could disappear in the frame yet the stripes still be there over in reddit, and I think it is a really good read, so for those of you willing to examine alternate ideas to the green screen theory, here ya go. I will still leave my alternate video angle below though for further reference for why I still don't think this was a green screen event. As the user on reddit put it:


Notice the frame where it takes a slice of her face and copies it all the way down to the bottom of the screen? If that happened in the tiny area above her head, that could potentially happen. But that is only possible is the background is perfectly straight, if there's any slight angle it would be noticeable.

Edit: I just watched the video properly looking for this. It appears this is what happened. Theres a noticeable change in the able of the background between the frames.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/53a8yv/proof_of_hillarys_speech_being_faked_with_a_green/d7rgr4c


BACK TO ORIGINAL POSTING:
How can you explain away the alternate angle in the video below? (Jump ahead to 55:03 in the video for Hillary's entrance, but you can see the entire arena in wide angle and all the speakers before her and everything before she enters. This would be VERY HARD to green screen like this especially with all the zooming going on, and this was supposedly live, though admittedly I did not watch it live.)

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To me, this second video makes the event seem a lot more likely to have actually happened, but of course most people are ignoring this video. What are your thoughts?

In the above video you see at 53;30 the entire quality of the screen go from clear to fuzzy. just as Clingon enters. What i think has happened is the foreground has been taken from a completely different event so it looks like there is a vast crowd to see her but in fact i believe the room was empty except for the actors behind her ... in the rafters behind the speaker at 52 mins you see a perfect spread of racial demographic. Asian , African, Hispanic , Caucasian , and in both male and female. This is to me the most telling sign this is a hoax.

So while i dont think she was green screened i do think the foreground was put in from a different event , hence the cameras not showing CLINGON OR THE FLAGS.

And another thing i just noticed watching it again ... not one person in the crowd in the foreground has a banner, placard, or poster !? not one ! yet the rent a crowd behind her does ... why is that ? Even the people up in the rafters behind her don't have any Clingon support memorabilia.

this is most definitely a crowd from another event.

Hervé
20th September 2016, 01:46
Right... most are holding up cellphones:



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http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/GettyImages-605903224-640x480.jpg

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screen-shot-2016-09-15-at-3-17-44-pm.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780


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