Rense interview with Jim Fetzer re Hillary Clinton (and her possible double)

[Cardillac]

Hi all-

please check out the following:

https://s102.podbean.com/pb/7359822d67bf4aeffab63786be63b898/57dea138/data4/fs101/824160/uploads/Rense_Radio_Network_Studio_on_2016-09-15_at_23_06_002.mp3

ca. 51 min.

the plot thickens-

I know this subject has been covered to a certain extent on this forum but there is constantly more and more info emerging and to merge this into previous forums/threads would completely bury the new info (who researches older threads?- very few)-

stay well all-

Larry

[neutronstar]

I am beginning to question J. Fetzer. Whether he is a disinformation agent or just puts out BS unknowingly, I don't know.

He attacked Rebecka Roth's identity which made me question her. Recently I saw her on Caravan to Midnight, the John B Wells show. They talked about all the attacks on her identity and they are unfounded. He writes a lot for Veterans Today and my opinion, that is that is a CIA propaganda site.

By the way her new book Methodical Conclusion is very interesting. I haven't read it all yet, but people keep contacting her with new information about what happened that day 9 11 01. It's quite eye opening. I can't link you to the interview, it's paid membership only. Sorry. I dropped C2C, and went over to his program which is so much better in my opinion.

[Cardillac]

@neutronstar

I don't think Jim Fetzer is purposely a dis-info agent; he's been so right about so many things in the past but he may not have had his facts completely straight about Rebecka Roth's background-

"By the way her new book Methodical Conclusion is very interesting. I haven't read it all yet"- well, read it to its finish and then draw your conclusions-

I read her book "Methodical Illusion"; it explains so many things about so many things (like 9/ll highjackers using box-cutters/plastic knives on 9/ll, etc.)-

let alone the BOGUS, completely illogical explaination about a suicidal co-pilot locking the pilot out of the cockpit when he went to the loo to cause the German Wings air disaster about 1 yr. ago- what a piece of propaganda BS-

as you stated: "They talked about all the attacks on her identity and they are unfounded. He writes a lot for Veterans Today and my opinion, that is that is a CIA propaganda site"-

to a certain extent I would agree with you about Veterans Today but much of what is published there just might be the truth; but it's like most websites: separating the wheat from the chaff (like the National Enquierer and Britain's "The Sun", Germany's BILD Zeitung, etc.)-

my final point being: I don't doubt Fetzer's sincerety for one second and there is most DEFINITELY something mysterious going on about H. Clinton's health and we all need to deal with that issue-

please stay well-

Larry

P.S: C2C is also NOT always a beacon of truth

[neutronstar]

I don't disagree about something is wrong with Hillary. The problem is Fetzer. Disinformation mixes truth with fiction. You purposely put out something about her health that is wrong, people run with it. Then later they can come back and show that the information was wrong and people look like idiots. Then when you bring up anything about her health being bad you're just a conspiracy nut and no one believes you.

It is alright if people on this board or on other sites are wrong sometimes. We are not doing this for a living. We are trying to wade through all the crap to get to the truth. But Fetzer puts himself out there as a expert researcher, shaping public opinion. He needs to be held to a higher standard. The stuff he put out about Rebecka Roth was sloppy research. He was doing it on purpose or he has contacts that are feeding him disinfo. Either way I can't trust what he says. There are a lot of other researchers out there that I rather spend my time listening to.

That is one of the reasons I like this site. There are people on this forum that separates the good researchers from the bad researchers. It's our only way of fighting the disinfo. people.

[bettye198]

Jim Fetzer seems to be very well informed, I found his Sandy Hook Hoax incredibly compelling.

What we need is someone like him who can connect the dots that sound logical. This is where we make better decisions about what to belief because we cannot know all the details of any story.

[neutronstar]

P.S: C2C is also NOT always a beacon of truth

That is why I switched. John was fired there because of what he was talking about. That told me all I needed to know about C2C.

[neutronstar]

Jim Fetzer seems to be very well informed, I found his Sandy Hook Hoax incredibly compelling.

What we need is someone like him who can connect the dots that sound logical. This is where we make better decisions about what to belief because we cannot know all the details of any story.

Good disinfo sounds good. I not saying for 100% certainty that he is. But the images and information about Rebecka Roth that he put out was done by someone with a certain amount of skill. The bottom line is what he said about her was wrong and I am 100% sure about that. How can I trust anything else he says. It doesn't matter how good it sounds. The info on Rebecka sounded good at the time to.

[Bill Ryan]

:focus:

Back to topic here: the interview is actually very interesting.
(The link again: http://s102.podbean.com/pb/7359822d67bf4aeffab63786be63b898/57dea138/data4/fs101/824160/uploads/Rense_Radio_Network_Studio_on_2016-09-15_at_23_06_002.mp3)

Whatever one's opinion might be of Jim Fetzer, he and Jeff Rense are discussing what may be compelling evidence that Hillary has a double (articulate, skilled, vital, energetic, shorter, younger and not so heavy -- and, tellingly, with a mole that the real Hillary does not have), who's made repeated public appearances all this year.

Rense gave it a 30% chance that the real Hillary may be dead (possibly after the 9/11 ceremony), and Fetzer agreed. My own view is that the 'double' hypothesis can't be ignored. It's even possible -- material for any kind of movie -- that a Hillary stand-in double could be voted into office, and be fully accepted without question by the American people.

[Bill Ryan]

Rense gave it a 30% chance that the real Hillary may be dead (possibly after the 9/11 ceremony), and Fetzer agreed.

Here's the very short clip of the ABC breaking news announcement that Hillary had died. Not a fake video... ABC really did put this out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RYTGS-3bUg

[Bill Ryan]

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Hillary and her double? -->


http://projectavalon.net/Hillary_and_her_double.jpg

^^ That's a screenshot.

Here's the Jeff Rense interview on the subject (the day after the one with Jim Fetzer that Cardillac posted to start this thread):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJXSd-RPDSU

[neutronstar]

I do have to admit that WABC TV news report is very strange.

[neutronstar]

Hillary has a double (articulate, skilled, vital, energetic, shorter, younger and not so heavy -- and, tellingly, with a mole that the real Hillary does not have), who's made repeated public appearances all this year.



I am not a hand expert by any means, but when I compared the two hands, the major lines in the center of the hands are the same. One hand looks really dry but easily fixed with lotion. That I know from my hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz05mAt4Fv0

[Bill Ryan]

I do have to admit that WABC TV news report is very strange.

In this video, which plays more of the actual 6 pm news announcement, there's some strong contextual evidence that the WABC anchor, Joe Torres, meant to say 'health', and that 'death' was a slip of the tongue. (The story goes on to report the diagnosis of pneumonia.) Listen, and make up your own mind. Curious stuff.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qObZh3r2as8

[neutronstar]

I do have to admit that WABC TV news report is very strange.

In this video, which plays more of the actual 6 pm news announcement, there's some strong contextual evidence that the WABC anchor, Joe Torres, meant to say 'health', and that 'death' was a slip of the tongue. (The story goes on to report the diagnosis of pneumonia.) Listen, and make up your own mind. Curious stuff.



Bill all you are doing is supporting my suspicion of Fetzer spreading disinfo. When I listened to the video that is what makes sense. If she had really died there is no way they report that without confirming it, and if they wanted to cover it up, it wouldn't have been reported.

[Bill Ryan]

I do have to admit that WABC TV news report is very strange.

In this video, which plays more of the actual 6 pm news announcement, there's some strong contextual evidence that the WABC anchor, Joe Torres, meant to say 'health', and that 'death' was a slip of the tongue. (The story goes on to report the diagnosis of pneumonia.) Listen, and make up your own mind. Curious stuff.



Bill all you are doing is supporting my suspicion of Fetzer spreading disinfo. When I listened to the video that is what makes sense. If she had really died there is no way they report that without confirming it, and if they wanted to cover it up, it wouldn't have been reported.

I don't disagree. The entire situation is weirder than weird. One possibility that has to be at least theoretically on the cards is that Hillary might be pulled from the candidacy at the very last moment (whoever she is!) -- leaving constitutional lawyers having to decide whether it'd be legally permissible to reschedule the election. (--> Continuity of Government, etc etc)

[neutronstar]

I do have to admit that WABC TV news report is very strange.

In this video, which plays more of the actual 6 pm news announcement, there's some strong contextual evidence that the WABC anchor, Joe Torres, meant to say 'health', and that 'death' was a slip of the tongue. (The story goes on to report the diagnosis of pneumonia.) Listen, and make up your own mind. Curious stuff.



Bill all you are doing is supporting my suspicion of Fetzer spreading disinfo. When I listened to the video that is what makes sense. If she had really died there is no way they report that without confirming it, and if they wanted to cover it up, it wouldn't have been reported.

I don't disagree. The entire situation is weirder than weird. One possibility that has to be at least theoretically on the cards is that Hillary might be pulled from the candidacy at the very last moment (whoever she is!) -- leaving constitutional lawyers having to decide whether it'd be legally permissible to reschedule the election. (--> Continuity of Government, etc etc)

I have heard from quite a few Doctors that say there is something seriously wrong with her. Those spasms she has are really disturbing. Whatever happens wont surprise me. This Gov. is so dysfunctional.

[Satori]

Hillary dead? No. Hillary double? Maybe. Hillary very ill? Yes. Hillary in the Whitehouse(again)? Hell no.

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't disagree. The entire situation is weirder than weird. One possibility that has to be at least theoretically on the cards is that Hillary might be pulled from the candidacy at the very last moment (whoever she is!) -- leaving constitutional lawyers having to decide whether it'd be legally permissible to reschedule the election. (--> Continuity of Government, etc etc)
What happens if a US Presidential candidate drops out before the election isn't a major Constitutional question, even if the Constitution still applied, except pro forma. The election still goes on, and the same electors are voted on for the Electoral College, which then votes on who will be the next President. If the Electoral College fails to deliver a decision to the President of the US Senate by the December date set forth in US law, then the US Senate decides the election.

The practical politics would rest with the political party, Republican or Democrat, which needed to replace their Presidential candidate. As when Thomas Eagleton was replaed by Sargent Shriver as the Vice Presidential candidate under George McGovern in 1972, it's the party (aka guys in smoked filled rooms) that has the practical power to select the replacement. The political parties (or their controllers) selected and controlled the electors, and the electors would continue to do their bidding.

However ... in this day of clones, body doubles, holograms, smoke, mirrors, lies, and damn lies, any semblance of what actually happens with what is supposed to happen above is probably a fairy tale.

[Jean-Luc]

I appreciate the non sensational and factual tone of this piece of news / comment reported on voltairenet.org (http://www.voltairenet.org/article193334.html)



The two Hillary

Hillary Clinton suffered a malaise during the commemoration ceremony of the attack of September 11 in New York. An hour later, she left her apartment wearing sunglasses to greet the crowd and say she was in good shape.

Examination of photographs certifies that the person leaving the apartment is not Mrs. Clinton. If we can discuss at length -- despite the black glasses -- the wrinkles of her face, the size of the pelvis does not match at all.

http://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L400xH250/arton193334-5e0f5.jpg

[Cardillac]

I just think we all need to come to terms with the fact that H. Clinton has multiple doubes; period; end of discussion-

many important people in the past have had multiple doubles (like start with NAZIs); why should it be different nowadays?!

"the only thing that is ever new in the world is the history you don't know"- President Harry S. Truman

Larry

[Matt P]

I thought it was interesting how many people just assumed it was Hillary that collapsed at the 9/11 memorial event. Perhaps that was one of her body doubles.

Matt

[TrumanCash]

Rense gave it a 30% chance that the real Hillary may be dead (possibly after the 9/11 ceremony), and Fetzer agreed.

Here's the very short clip of the ABC breaking news announcement that Hillary had died. Not a fake video... ABC really did put this out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RYTGS-3bUg

Has anyone contacted WABC in NY city to see if anyone got fired or why this aired and have they reported what the response was?

[Cardillac]

@mpennery

Hi Matt- hope you are well- this scenario continues to get weirder and bizarrer by the day-

and we're not living in a world of deception?

Larry

[ulli]

The interview page was working earlier today, but not now. It says 403 Forbidden

[bettye198]

I agree with the distortion of real Hillary vs Fake Hillary. From Alberino and Springmeier's interview, I am now entertaining a possible theory behind all this.

Hillary chose Tim Kaine as a running mate. In her book ( possibly ghostwritten) she said he was a terrible possible choice back in 2008. Now she switched. But the fascination of his back story is that he is a Pope Francis Jesuit Catholic and has strong ties with that. Is it possible that the whole agenda is to allow Kaine to step in and be the connection to the Pope and the NWO agenda in a more intimate way?