Research paper on The Mandela Effect: strong statistical evidence

[BMJ]

13 Sept 2016 - Moses has horns and Hillary has Syphilis

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Published on 14 Sep 2016

OH Hillary ! IS it Syphilis? Or has she been arrested?
Mandela effect -
Moses now has horns, 4 American Presidents assassinated and Mandela quizzes

Dreams have stepped up again with 2 distinct themes, the moon/planets and water/tidal waves

Lots of links at :
http://www.lisamharrison.com/2016/09/15/one-people-round-table-13-sept-2016-moses-has-horns-and-hillary-has-syphilis-maybe/

[RunningDeer]

In the OP video, Dr. Blair Reich joins in the conversation with Lisa and Dani @1:24:20 (https://youtu.be/rPRz5vXHkOs?t=1h24m20s).




Dr. Blair Reich Phd put together several quizzes/polls about the "Mandela/Toto Effect. One of the Polls is over 100 questions long, and now has over 30,000 responses. We discussed his research paper that he wrote on this questionnaire in depth, and Blair gives his definition of "Mandela Effect" vs "Toto Effect”.


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The last video is where Dr. Blair Reich shares findings and includes links to the quizz(es)/survey(s).

This video of the Moses horns was referenced by Lisa and Dani and the second part is an overview of Dr. Blair Reich poll with 30,000 responses.


Mandela Effect MAILBAG #4 | Moses now has HORNS? And more! |#MandelaEffect
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Mandela Effect Report- 25K responses- Ruling out memory as the cause
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Published on Sep 6, 2016

The Mandela Effect is the difference between recollection for a large group of people and recorded history. Mandela Effect is for small changes like movie lines and titles of media. The Toto Effect is for more tangible changes such as religion, geography, physical products, history etc. Before continuing, if you haven't taken the quiz that is part of this study please do so! http://www.quiz-maker.com/QRVR3A

25k people took this quiz: http://www.quiz-maker.com/QRVR3A. Their results have been analyzed and guesses have been removed. Control experiments were included that indicate people who are extremely confident in their answers are likely to get them right 95% of the time or more. This study mostly rules out memory and mishearing as the likely cause of the Mandela Effect. The actual cause remains unknown and worthy of further study.

Additional quizes have been compiled that focus on more of the substantial changes that are observed:
Here’s a short quiz: http://www.quiz-maker.com/QYN1BOG
Here’s a long and in depth quiz that covers the most topics: http://www.quiz-maker.com/Q6G9ZLT

[Bill Ryan]

Mandela Effect Report- 25K responses- Ruling out memory as the cause
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Published on Sep 6, 2016

The Mandela Effect is the difference between recollection for a large group of people and recorded history. Mandela Effect is for small changes like movie lines and titles of media. The Toto Effect is for more tangible changes such as religion, geography, physical products, history etc. Before continuing, if you haven't taken the quiz that is part of this study please do so! http://www.quiz-maker.com/QRVR3A

25k people took this quiz: http://www.quiz-maker.com/QRVR3A. Their results have been analyzed and guesses have been removed. Control experiments were included that indicate people who are extremely confident in their answers are likely to get them right 95% of the time or more. This study mostly rules out memory and mishearing as the likely cause of the Mandela Effect. The actual cause remains unknown and worthy of further study.

Additional quizes have been compiled that focus on more of the substantial changes that are observed:
Here’s a short quiz: http://www.quiz-maker.com/QYN1BOG
Here’s a long and in depth quiz that covers the most topics: http://www.quiz-maker.com/Q6G9ZLT


WOW.

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:)

Fascinating video. A real stab at careful research, using statistical analysis on quite a large sample of people (over 20,000). His one-take 90-minute ad-libbed commentary was a little loose, but the paper is not.

Highly, highly recommended, and may well need a thread of its own.

(And, WTF?? Our Solar System is on the Sagittarius Arm of the Galaxy...... isn't it? :facepalm: )

[RunningDeer]

(And, WTF?? Our Solar System is on the Sagittarius Arm of the Galaxy...... isn't it? :facepalm: )

9-1-1 Ulli…........ http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/bliss_zpstdsixjgz.GIF
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/ulli_zpsvwuh5gnl.JPG


Dear Bill,

My antiquated GPS goes wonky when I take it out that far. Heck, it doesn’t even work where I live. So my pretend that I know answer is…it’s between the Sagittarius and Perseus Arms of the Milky Way.

And…I’ve included a map with arrows to make it look like I know what I’m talking about. Even better, I’ve added animation to REA-l-l-y make it look like I know what I am talking about.

Pauler :heart:

P.S. The geeky me did watch both videos to the end. I've forgotten most of it now, cuz, 10 days ago seems like two months ago. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/emoticon-0136-giggle_zpszv27yaue.GIF


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/Orion_Spur_sun_zpsv6obghgi.GIF




We live in an island of stars called the Milky Way, and many know that our Milky Way is a spiral galaxy. In fact, it’s a barred spiral galaxy, which means that our galaxy probably has just two major spiral arms, plus a central bar that astronomers are only now beginning to understand. But where within this vast spiral structure do our sun and its planets reside? Our galaxy is about 100,000 light-years wide. We’re about 25,000 light-years from the center of the galaxy. It turns out we’re not located in one of the Milky Way’s two primary spiral arms. Instead, we’re located in a minor arm of the galaxy. Our local spiral arm is sometimes Orion Arm, or sometimes the Orion Spur. It’s between the Sagittarius and Perseus Arms of the Milky Way.

[article (http://earthsky.org/space/does-our-sun-reside-in-a-spiral-arm-of-the-milky-way-galaxy)]

[Star Tsar]

We call it the Orion Spur or The Orion Cynus Arm!

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/620057main_milkyway_full.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

Highly, highly recommended, and may well need a thread of its own.



I looked carefully to see if the thread should be split: the Mandela Effect research paper, as a standalone topic, is potentially really important, and more than fascinating -- at least, to me. :)

But, despite some experimentation, it seems impossible... so I took the liberty of changing the thread title to (a) make this more searchable, and (b) reflect accurately what I think the focus of the discussion may be.

If anyone has a link to Dr. Blair Reich's research paper itself, I'd most appreciate if it could be posted here.


Note @ BMJ: Not at all wanting to wreck your party here. if you'd like a separate thread devoted to all of Lisa and Dani's interviews (on a wide range of subjects, not just this), then we can easily fix that up. Mods can move or copy posts around simply, and our intent here is just to be good librarians, if we can, with the material all in the best sections where it can be found.

[RunningDeer]

If anyone has a link to Dr. Blair Reich's research paper itself, I'd most appreciate if it could be posted here.

Snippet of article (http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2016/07/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-a-Research-Paper-by-Jesse-Reich-Memory-Recall-Divergence-Explained-by-Timeline-Jumping.html):




Before reading further if you haven’t taken the quiz I implore you do so by visiting this webpage: http://goo.gl/6tXMNM. It doesn’t take very long to complete and will give you a better frame of reference to explore the results.


Read or download complete paper in PDF format here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pBgJY_76s7Vk1pcmVCQTlmdGs/view).

Read or download complete paper in DOC format here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pBgJY_76s7UmJXSGpLcFQ1Q1k/view).

Review or download spreadsheet of survey results here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0pBgJY_76s7RmZ5VlZGbEFJR1U/view).


UPDATE: It's not Dr. Blair Reich's research paper itself... still looking.

[RunningDeer]

Here’s contact information. No luck finding the research paper and I don’t have a Facebook account:

Dr. Reich can be reached on facebook through the name blair reich, youtube through aggroed.lighthacker, and steemit as @aggroed.  If you find new effects the youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsaJ7pKncIORbzne_qmc6Lg/videos), Facebook, and in answer spaces provided in the quizzes is an excellent way to contact him about them.

Part of the article (http://www.grooviebean.com/single-post/2016/09/09/Sept-29th-6pm-pst-9pm-est-MANDELA-EFFECT-Dr-Blair-Reich):




While the general population demonstrated memory loss on the control experiments those who reported being extremely confident were between 95-98.8% accurate on the controls.  The controls are based on a show from the 90s and an historic event that was in the news from the 90s.  The point of having older experiences was to provide enough time to verify that if memory was a problem 20+ years should have been long enough.
 
The Mandela Effect questions were viewed through the lens of expecting an approximate 5% error tolerance due to memory gap even among the extremely confident quiz takers.  Overall, all of the Mandela Effects in questions came in well past the 5% memory loss threshold and numerous personal testimonials were included.  
 
Berenstein Bears is probably the most famous of the Mandela Effects.  Here we see that more than 80% of the population remember it as Berenstein as opposed to the "actual" name Berenstain.  Quiz takers have vibrant memories of learning it both ways.  Those that heard it as stain are quick to think of stains on a shirt.  Those that learned it as stein often cite the debate of is it pronounced "steen" or "stine?"  While the creators are decedents of Ukrainian Jews whose slavic language is known to be difficult for Americans to pronounce their pronunciation is perfectly clear as "stain" and would not be the source of the difference.  Some evidence has been gathered that Stein used to be the answer in the form of a limited number of official products that have both names on the VHS tape as well as internet archives that have use Stein.
 
In essence it is highly unlikely that memory or simple collective mishearing is the cause of the Mandela Effect.  What is the cause of the Mandela Effect remains unknown and further research is suggested for both Mandela Effects and Toto Effects (which cover more substantial changes such as History, geography, physical products, religion, and anatomy).
 
Lastly, timing of when people started experiencing this effect was studied using Google Analytics that show most searches for terms that have undergone the Mandela Effect begin in earnest on or about July 2015.

[RunningDeer]

FFT: If it's an ongoing An Ongoing Investigation then the paper is not available.


Experienced and Recalled Reality for 4,782 survey respondents versus Current Recorded History
An Ongoing Investigation
Blair Reich, PhD; Independent Investigator

NOTE: Feel free to delete any and all of my above posts. :wave:

[Bill Ryan]

UPDATE: It's not Dr. Blair Reich's research paper itself... still looking.

Okay, I found it.. on Scribd:
http://scribd.com/document/323817055/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-Experienced-and-Recalled-Reality-for-25-210-survey-respondents-versus-Current-Recorded-History

It's a free download, but one has to have an account. I've re-uploaded it to the Avalon server, here:
http://projectavalon.net/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-Experienced-and-Recalled-Reality-for-25210-survey-respondents-versus-Current-Recorded-History.pdf

http://projectavalon.net/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-Experienced-and-Recalled-Reality-for-25210-survey-respondents-versus-Current-Recorded-History.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

I've re-uploaded it to the Avalon server, here:
http://projectavalon.net/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-Experienced-and-Recalled-Reality-for-25210-survey-respondents-versus-Current-Recorded-History.pdf
I'd highly recommend browsing the 'testimonials' (quiz-taker comments) section... which runs for 27 pages, from p.26 to p.53. Some of the comments are fascinating, from people with excellent memories who handled these items (like movie posters) professionally at first hand -- enough to make you stop and stare out of the window for quite a long time. :)

* One very brief extract only (p.35) -- there's much more like this! -- that had me laughing (in sympathy with, not at, the poor guy, who was so perplexed he couldn't stop swearing http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0103%20Big%20smile.gif )
It was the first time in my life I EVER had a ""sinking feeling"" in my stomach... [snip...] ...the first time in my life I felt like I would throw up from a combination of disorientation and nauseousness because my perception of reality was completely shattered. Then comes the entire Berenstein bears (What the f*ck my Auto-correct wants to use Berenstain?) and that let me know something was very, very wrong with this entire situation. I still don't understand it, and honestly I don't want to understand it.I do think now Dr Reich slightly messed up the 'NASA manned missions' and the 'Universal blood donor' questions (which can both be argued to be ambiguous or easily misunderstood). But overall, this is compelling evidence for something extremely odd going on. It can clearly be built on and improved/expanded -- but that's what scientific method research is all about.

[bluestflame]

remember the moonraker ( james bond) movie where one of the villians henchmen "jaws" http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamesbond/images/0/06/Jaws_%28Richard_Kiel%29_-_Profile.png/revision/latest?cb=20160625221943falls off the ski lift into the arms of a buxom blonde thick glassed woman with braces ( that's the connection cos it adds to the " love at first site" thing )

now she doesn't have braces ( no i don't mean she outgrew them ) she never had them !

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[Bill Ryan]

remember the moonraker ( james bond) movie where one of the villians henchmen "jaws" falls off the ski lift into the arms of a buxom blonde thick glassed woman with braces ( that's the connection cos it adds to the " love at first site" thing )

now she doesn't have braces ( no i don't mean she outgrew them ) she never had them !

Really! I distinctly remember the girl's braces. (It was a perfect little cinematic touch, to match Jaws' metal teeth. :) ) I suspect there are many more anomalies like this... what's coming to view and discussion right now are just those which are most easily noticed.

One that was rather more worrying was a story (I think this was recounted by Dr Reich in his commentary: it's not in the paper) of a couple, who had been together a while, who were eating sandwiches. The woman had carefully prepared the man a sandwich in a very particular way. But he told her he didn't like it very much that way... something to do with the mayonnaise, if I remember. (Reference, please, from someone who has a little time to find the timestamp on the video!) The woman, baffled, pointed out that she had always made his sandwiches that way, every time. He had no recall of that -- at all. (Wow)

[Hervé]

[...]
It was the first time in my life I EVER had a ""sinking feeling"" in my stomach... [snip...] ...the first time in my life I felt like I would throw up from a combination of disorientation and nauseousness because my perception of reality was completely shattered. Then comes the entire Berenstein bears (What the f*ck my Auto-correct wants to use Berenstain?) and that let me know something was very, very wrong with this entire situation. I still don't understand it, and honestly I don't want to understand it.[...]

I think this commentator inadvertently put his finger onto the very phenomenon when mentioning "my Auto-correct"... :

Some sort of pareidolia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia) which would encompass all types of memories and replacing "what's there" with something else one holds in one's mind, whatever that is, whether "filters," implants,"brainwashing," post-hypnotic overlays, natural or electronic telepathic suggestions or plain vacuum filling fantasies... which, on another hand, could be an indication of how successful the "overlaying" of the "false" memory/knowledge program has been...

[sunwings]

Really! I distinctly remember the girl's braces. (It was a perfect little cinematic touch, to match Jaws' metal teeth. :) ) I suspect there are many more anomalies like this... what's coming to view and discussion right now are just those which are most easily noticed.

One that was rather more worrying was a story (I think this was recounted by Dr Reich in his commentary: it's not in the paper) of a couple, who had been together a while, who were eating sandwiches. The woman had carefully prepared the man a sandwich in a very particular way. But he told her he didn't like it very much that way... something to do with the mayonnaise, if I remember. (Reference, please, from someone who has a little time to find the timestamp on the video!) The woman, baffled, pointed out that she had always made his sandwiches that way, every time. He had no recall of that -- at all. (Wow)

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This one is new to me thanks! Also this is a Physical M.E. as supposed to a verbal M.E.. One question I would like to throw into the mix is do we think there is a positive or negative force behind this? I´m pretty sure they are malevolent forces pulling their hair out as the masses are being woken up and reality is appearing to be easily altered and far from physical as we have always been told!

[RunningDeer]

I've re-uploaded it to the Avalon server, here

Link correction:

Exploring the Mandela Effect - Experienced and Recalled Reality for 25,210 survey respondents versus Current Recorded History (http://www.projectavalon.net/Exploring-the-Mandela-Effect-Experienced-and-Recalled-Reality-for-25210-survey-respondents-versus-Current-Recorded-History.pdf) :wave:






Note from Bill: THX, and fixed :thumbsup:

[RunningDeer]

I'd highly recommend browsing the 'testimonials' (quiz-taker comments) section

I have proof of one of the example from the 'testimonials' pdf survey:



I started researching the mandela effect when someone told me about C3PO's silver leg. Ive watched star wars more times than I can remember and NEVER did he have the silver leg.


Here’s a picture of my son (#10), brother, sisters
and myself in the early 1980's.

http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/General/starwars_zpsmekv5szl.JPG

[Hervé]

Examples of "Auto-correct" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36333-A-817-0F-Fun&p=373621&viewfull=1#post373621) pareidolia filling in for what's NOT there:

7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15.

PL3453 F0RW4RD 1F U C4N R34D 7H15.

and:

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

[RunningDeer]

If you plan to take the survey, I'd suggest you wait on these links:

Google page with examples (https://www.google.com/search?q=jif+peanut+butter&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixoqy91LTPAhVMmR4KHYcFCFUQ_AUICCgB&biw=1112&bih=541#tbm=isch&q=jiffy+peanut+butter+mandela+effect&imgrc=-8u11vw_6k9ZbM%3A) of The Mandela Effect

Site with videos and Q&A test (http://crytonchronicles.com/ijak/2016/7/20/concerning-the-mandela-effect-part-one)

[Bill Ryan]

I'd highly recommend browsing the 'testimonials' (quiz-taker comments) section

I have proof of one of the example from the 'testimonials' pdf survey:



I started researching the mandela effect when someone told me about C3PO's silver leg. Ive watched star wars more times than I can remember and NEVER did he have the silver leg.


Here’s a picture of my son (#10), brother, sisters
and myself in the early 1980's.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/starwars_zpsmekv5szl.JPG


Lovely photo!!

This article is hilarious (and interesting)
http://theshiznit.co.uk/feature/fu ck-off-did-c3po-have-a-silver-leg.php
(^^ to get this link to work, remove the added space in the URL (this is an Avalon software auto-censor problem :facepalm: )

But, a serious question... shouldn't your photo have magically changed, as well? My first encounter with the Mandela Effect (not even called that then) was several years ago, when I was copied in on an e-mail conversation between Mars image researchers. One swore blind that a certain feature was present, and the other agreed, but then when they went to check their printed hard-copy photos, the photos had changed. They were dumbfounded.

[RunningDeer]

Lovely photo!!
But, a serious question... shouldn't your photo have magically changed, as well?

Thanks, Bill. The photo wouldn’t change if I’m on a different time line from those that recall silver. My understanding is that time-lines are merging.

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This link works (http://theshiznit.co.uk/feature/****-off-did-c3po-have-a-silver-leg.php) - The problem was there was a space between fu AND ck. I closed that space on the address.

UPDATE: Oh, I see what you mean. The fu*ck auto corrects in the link address.


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C3PO HAS A SILVER FU@KING LEG.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/c3po_zpso1bfbtna.JPG




Today I made a most unsettling discovery and now I'm sharing it with you in the vain hope that it'll make the madness I'm currently feeling feel less intense. I still almost can't believe it's true, despite photo evidence that appears to confirm it. No. It can't be right. It just can't be. I've seen Star Wars about 25 times and I never noticed this. **** off does C3PO have one silver leg.
While browsing through the new set of Entertainment Weekly photos from Star Wars: The Force Awakens on Reddit, I happened across the new pic of C3PO with a striking red arm, a very cool addition to his gold plating.

Then I read the comments. "His silver leg got promoted to gold," said one user. I ignored it: clearly the ravings of a madman. Then, further down the page: "What happened to 3PO's silver leg?" Was this a meme I didn't understand? Is this 'Internet Humour'? C3PO never had a silver leg, did he? Of course he didn't. I'd have noticed.



http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/media/2015/August/silver2.jpg

http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/media/2015/August/silver1.jpg

Clearly this is one of those bull****, 'The dress is blue and black', 'The ballerina is spinning the other way'-type Derren Brown mind games. It's a colour palette issue. It's George Lucas dicking about with the Special Editions again. The entire world has lost its marbles. But no.

C3PO has a silver leg.

And he always has. Ever since 1977, he's been walking around on 50% AG, 50% AU. HOW DEEP DOES THIS THING GO? What else have I missed in my favourite movies? Does Marty McFly have a tattoo of a Leprechaun on his neck? Does the T-Rex in Jurassic Park wear a bowtie? Is John McClane in Die Hard actually Welsh? I genuinely have no idea how I could have missed something as significant as the colour of a character's leg in the most famous, most well-loved and most watched movie in cinematic history.

[Savannah]

(And, WTF?? Our Solar System is on the Sagittarius Arm of the Galaxy...... isn't it? :facepalm: )

9-1-1 Ulli…........ http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/bliss_zpstdsixjgz.GIF
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/ulli_zpsvwuh5gnl.JPG


Dear Bill,

My antiquated GPS goes wonky when I take it out that far. Heck, it doesn’t even work where I live. So my pretend that I know answer is…it’s between the Sagittarius and Perseus Arms of the Milky Way.

And…I’ve included a map with arrows to make it look like I know what I’m talking about. Even better, I’ve added animation to REA-l-l-y make it look like I know what I am talking about.

Pauler :heart:

P.S. The geeky me did watch both videos to the end. I've forgotten most of it now, cuz, 10 days ago seems like two months ago. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/emoticon-0136-giggle_zpszv27yaue.GIF


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/Orion_Spur_sun_zpsv6obghgi.GIF




We live in an island of stars called the Milky Way, and many know that our Milky Way is a spiral galaxy. In fact, it’s a barred spiral galaxy, which means that our galaxy probably has just two major spiral arms, plus a central bar that astronomers are only now beginning to understand. But where within this vast spiral structure do our sun and its planets reside? Our galaxy is about 100,000 light-years wide. We’re about 25,000 light-years from the center of the galaxy. It turns out we’re not located in one of the Milky Way’s two primary spiral arms. Instead, we’re located in a minor arm of the galaxy. Our local spiral arm is sometimes Orion Arm, or sometimes the Orion Spur. It’s between the Sagittarius and Perseus Arms of the Milky Way.

[article (http://earthsky.org/space/does-our-sun-reside-in-a-spiral-arm-of-the-milky-way-galaxy)]


I had read about the changes in the placement of the Earth within the Milky Way galaxy a few months ago. At that time I wondered if there is any truth to the idea of ascension of the earth/souls by the Earth going into the center of Universe where energies change could this explain the Mandela effect. Its been proposed that as we enter a different part of the galaxy we will awaken and thus we cant be controlled and possible AI will be needed. Could it be that they moved he Earth in order to keep us asleep and the effects we are seeing is a consequence of that move? Just a wild theory. Lately I think everything is psyop and I question the whole ascension thing.

[RunningDeer]

I had read about the changes in the placement of the Earth within the Milky Way galaxy a few months ago. At that time I wondered if there is any truth to the idea of ascension of the earth/souls by the Earth going into the center of Universe where energies change could this explain the Mandela effect. Its been proposed that as we enter a different part of the galaxy we will awaken and thus we cant be controlled and possible AI will be needed. Could it be that they moved he Earth in order to keep us asleep and the effects we are seeing is a consequence of that move? Just a wild theory. Lately I think everything is psyop and I question the whole ascension thing.

I’m at a point where rather than so much of my time is spent on speculation, my focus is mainly on raising consciousness through knowledge, questioning, experience, attention, intention and action of doing. I can't change out there, but I can change in here. Eventually it'll contribute to the larger perspective.

At this time, [my] spirit is here to experience material world without the limitation that were put upon us eons ago. I’m here to dismantle what makes this body a prison, restore it, and merge it with higher frequency spirit. I am here to become adept at spirit-within-a-vessel experiences.

It’s hard to say if the Mandela effect is a symptom of merging timelines. For now, that’s what I’m thinking. What I do know is I ain’t going no where. No ascension as I understand it from the new agey propaganda. I boarded up that vortex that I use to get sucked into.

I’m hitchin' a ride on the natural progression of energetics where AI and minions will naturally implode.

♡

[Hervé]

Star Wars Episode 3 (Revenge.of.the.Sith.2005) C3PO is all golden color by movie end... Episode 4 (A.New.Hope.1977) and the movie starts with C3PO having a "silver" right lower leg... I guess they couldn't find a matching spare part after its last clean up and hard drive reformatting :)

[Bill Ryan]

Could it be that they moved he Earth in order to keep us asleep and the effects we are seeing is a consequence of that move?.

That's one thing that's not possible... we'd have seen the stars moving around (drastically!) as the solar system was towed elsewhere. Like moving your house to another city with you still inside it, and not noticing the landscape moving past your window. :)

[BMJ]

Note @ BMJ: Not at all wanting to wreck your party here. if you'd like a separate thread devoted to all of Lisa and Dani's interviews (on a wide range of subjects, not just this), then we can easily fix that up. Mods can move or copy posts around simply, and our intent here is just to be good librarians, if we can, with the material all in the best sections where it can be found.
[/LIST]


You did not wreck my party Bill, if you can seperate the two threads when you can that would be nice, thank you.





Note from Bill: done. :thumbsup: The Lisa and Dani interview thread is now
One People Round Table with Lisa and Dani (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93663-One-People-Round-Table-with-Lisa-and-Dani)

[Tangri]

Thanks God , I finally relieved . I was asking my family 2 years, where the second sun was.

I was thinking it could be a working memory dyslexia or ignorance's trick on me, but now, I am convinced.

I have only one question to my situation which I couldn't resolved, How did my conscious transport my memory in this reality. Does conscious has a memory?
I need an another universal statistical test for this, I believe.

I am trying a new game as below it helped to remember some old memory.

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[Rex]

Thanks God , I finally relieved . I was asking my family 2 years, where the second sun was.

I was thinking it could be a working memory dyslexia or ignorance's trick on me, but now, I am convinced.
...


Wait, you remember a time when we had a 2nd sun? Kind of like in 2010: The Year We Make Contact?

For what it's worth, I don't remember any silver leg on C3PO, and Jaws girlfriend definitely had braces!

[Star Tsar]

Groovie Bean

Dr. Blair Reich - The Mandela Effect

Published 30th September 2016

In this interview we are not drawing doodles of Mendelas! No we are talking THE MANDELA EFFECT with Dr Blair Reich.
He shares his theory of parallel universes, based in the idea that because large groups of people have similar alternative memories about past events.

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[Savannah]

I used to feel that way as well however the more I opened up I experienced out of body states and channeling. I was not intellectually prepared for the lower astral/ djinn I encountered and there were some nasty consequences in my life as a result. Thus I feel now like I need a better intellectual understanding before I open up again. I also highly doubt the whole accession paradigm that I think is psyop to induce passivity. Why fight the system when were all going to be saved and there is nothing we need to do but soak up the energy rays. ya sure:sun:

[A Voice from the Mountains]

25k people took this quiz: http://www.quiz-maker.com/QRVR3A. Their results have been analyzed and guesses have been removed. Control experiments were included that indicate people who are extremely confident in their answers are likely to get them right 95% of the time or more. This study mostly rules out memory and mishearing as the likely cause of the Mandela Effect. The actual cause remains unknown and worthy of further study.

To me this is only measuring the ignorance of most people. It's like when, on July 4th, reporters went to the beach and asked people what the July 4th celebration was about. Too many people knew embarrassingly little about it. One person thought it was independence from Canada. Lots didn't know it had anything to do with independence at all.

That's not because all of reality just went through a wormhole or any woo-woo stuff like that. It's because people are ignorant and have bad memories on top of that. And it is possible to be wrong and very confident at the same time.

Too much fluoride and heavy metals in the water supply.

[Bill Ryan]

.
Here's a hypothesis, and it's a very serious one.

It's very wild, and I'm not urging anyone to believe this. I do think there's something odd happening here which needs explaining. The statistics show that the phenomenon seems highly unlikely to be caused just by flaws in memory.

(Some of the examples cited I do think are erroneous, and can be explained by normal means. But others are highly strange indeed, and seem very compelling. I've experienced the 'filled with cognitive dissonance' feeling, well described by others, several times now.)

***

Now, please read this carefully and slowly. :)

Just supposing there was a black ops project, with highly classified advanced technology at their disposal, that was experimenting with changing timelines retrospectively.

I don't think this is impossible. See, for example, the important Project Camelot page http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html. There is compelling witness evidence to indicate that there have been research projects in existence for quite a while now that have been messing with time, maybe since the inception of the Montauk Projects in the 1950s.

In the field of remote viewing, the next logical step is remote influencing -- taking it all one major step further. Not just observing and perceiving, but actually changing stuff at a distance.

With time portal research -- q.v. the Looking Glass, the Yellow Book, the Orion Cube, and the Chronovisor: whether or not some of these names refer to the same device, or whether they're all different -- it makes sense that the researchers, having got a good grip on time perception (i.e. peering into the future or the past), would next be pretty interested in time influencing.

Now, with something like that, they'd have to go very carefully. The Butterfly Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butterfly_Effect), etc... as in Ray Bradbury's classic Sci-Fi short story A Sound of Thunder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sound_of_Thunder).

Suppose retroactive time influencing was possible. In other words, changing the past to cause a deliberate influence on the present.

Smart black ops human scientists, unless irresponsibly stupid (and I don't think these guys are that stupid), would proceed with great caution by changing tiny things (small butterflies!) ... to see what happened. (And, of course, as a by-product, seeing who would notice, and how intelligent they might be about it all.)


So: this may be simply the first phase of a time-manipulation experiment.

I'm utterly serious.

Just imagine: supposing you COULD do this. But you were smart enough to know that there were many unknowns, and that messing with time could have unknown consequences. What experiment would you conduct?

Answer: Exactly what we have seen... tiny things that don't matter at all, like the Berenstein Bears, Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, and C3PIO's silver leg.. That's hardly going to make the whole Earth split apart, or fall into the sun. :)

***

Now, any hypothesis should be able to make predictions, to test the hypothesis. That's the heart of the scientific method.

My prediction: the initial experiment would have been be deemed a success... and the next stage will be changing larger things.


Why do this at all?

Well, the current timeline may not be to the elite controllers' liking. They may feel things are headed in a direction they don't want to go in... like, maybe, losing control.

Their goal would be to reclaim power. But to do that, they'd have to change a few pivotal events in the past.


First, the Berenstein Bears (etc). That's just to see if it works.
And next...............?

[Zampano]

And I swear, when this thread was started-it was called The Mandala Effect. I posted it as well.
I thought to myself, hmmm...Mandala is a nice geometric picture, what does it have to do with this phenomena?
A day later it was The Mandela Effect
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure for myself. Unfortunately I didnt make a screenshot. Who thinks about that in this moment






Note from Bill: it could easily have been a simple typo that was quickly corrected by one of the mods. We often do that, to make sure that searches work properly (spelling mistakes and typos always sabotage searches)

[Zampano]

Please do a simple forum search-the small square under the "How to Donate" button.
Type "Mandala" and see the Search Results
I had also the thought chain...oh we also have a member with the name of Mandala.
And suddenly it was Mandela

[RunningDeer]

And I swear, when this thread was started-it was called The Mandala Effect. I posted it as well.
I thought to myself, hmmm...Mandala is a nice geometric picture, what does it have to do with this phenomena?
A day later it was The Mandela Effect
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure for myself. Unfortunately I didnt make a screenshot. Who thinks about that in this moment
FYI: You posted on DNA’s thread, called "The Mandela Effect. Is this CERN? Project Pegasus? The Montauk Project? The Philadelphia Experiment?" post #72 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91282-The-Mandela-Effect.-Is-this-CERN-Project-Pegasus-The-Montauk-Project-The-Philadelphia-Experiment&p=1075472&viewfull=1#post1075472)

UPDATE: feel free to delete this post.

:offtopic:

[Zampano]

Yes thanks Paula! I meant DNAs thread actually.

[bluestflame]

BILL ! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167720/


An ex-CIA is the point man for a government organization dedicated to time traveling to correct errors that occurred in the previous week.

from a tv series " seven days "

[A Voice from the Mountains]

And I swear, when this thread was started-it was called The Mandala Effect. I posted it as well.
I thought to myself, hmmm...Mandala is a nice geometric picture, what does it have to do with this phenomena?
A day later it was The Mandela Effect
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure for myself. Unfortunately I didnt make a screenshot. Who thinks about that in this moment

I used to call former CIA director James Woolsey "James Woosley." I even saw other people spelling it this way too.

Then I learned that it's actually spelled "Woolsey."

What is the first conclusion you jump to when I tell you that? That all of reality just completely transformed itself and the only residual evidence I have is that I thought his name was spelled otherwise? That's the reasoning I'm seeing here.

How do you know when to apply this kind of radical explanation, or when people just are ignorant and/or not paying very close attention, as often occurs? Even the study cited in this thread seems to arbitrarily determine how likely they think it is that something is just a memory problem or not.

[Tangri]

My first quick reflex to this thread for a respond was the "Research Paper" chocolate covering.

If title was a " Questionnaire for North Americans" , I wouldn't need a :boink: smilies. (Nominal-polytomous, data )

The problem associated with return rates in questionnaire is that often the people that do return the questionnaire are those that have a really positive or a really negative viewpoint and want their opinion heard. The people that are most likely unbiased either way typically don't respond because it is not worth their time.


If you do same questionnaire in South Africa you would have a different data in 2 distinguish subjects (Mandela's death- Waco siege details) after that, if you have done same test in China your outcome would have been totally different than previous 2.

I am not against to have argue on Time travelling , time shifting, conscious memory capacities but starting a subjective argument with limited(geographically- culturally) questionnaire would pull us a bias or manipulated thought conditioning. This gives me a feeling that this kind of social influence, aims to change the behavior or perception of others through , deceptive, or underhanded tactics.(which could be deliberately or or unintentionally).

We can debate on every esoteric subject(even Flat earth) but without pointing other possibilities as an intend or facts it would turn to The process of manipulation which involves bringing an unknowing victim under the domination of the manipulator and his/her conditioning.

Can we allow to the idea of Memory dyslexia or ignorance of daily life with this test?

Ignorance can be occur lack of facts or awareness.

[Rex]

BILL ! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167720/


An ex-CIA is the point man for a government organization dedicated to time traveling to correct errors that occurred in the previous week.

from a tv series " seven days "

I watched this whole series. It started right around the time I was losing interest in the X-Files. It was my favorite at the time, and nobody I knew was watching it (or even heard of it). I'm surprised to see it went for 3 seasons. As I remember back, there were lots of nuggets of info there.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Yes thanks Paula! I meant DNAs thread actually.

One more example of the "Mandela effect" involving a case of poor memory.

On TOT we renamed a thread and another member was claiming Mandela effect over that too, saying he remembered that the thread used to be named something else, as if this were evidence that he had been living in a parallel universe. :doh:

[AuCo]

I have read a similar story when the Chinese showed photos of the moon landscape their orbiter took for the first time and a NASA scientist called out that those photos were exactly their own. The scientist was surprised however to find one picture missing a rock in the bottom right corner. Since he recalled studying these pics pretty thoroughly and still remembered so, he went back to the originals and was dumbfounded that there was no rock there either.

[araucaria]

.
Here's a hypothesis, and it's a very serious one.
This seems a good time and place to try and tie together a few strands of things I have been saying over a period of time. There are too many links below for anyone to follow: I am not trying to submerge people, it is simply the best way to make my point, namely that this many connections can be made, and that is what makes this subject so fascinating.

The Hillary Clinton business is certainly very strange. Bill suggested somewhere that 2016 was possibly an attempt to get back on track with the negative timeline after her 2008 campaign was derailed. We seem to be running simultaneously through a whole string of different timelines, where she wins, she loses, she drops out, she dies... Someone seems to be clutching at a lot of straws, or rummaging through a bunch of keys and still unable to open a door.

We also still have the case of the missing MH370. I suggested at the time that it may have disappeared into another dimension (in what amounts to a Bermuda triangle event). See here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809466&viewfull=1#post809466). Now we have an “explanation” of the mystery of the Bermuda triangle. While colleagues at the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/shortcuts/2016/mar/14/giant-gas-bubbles-mystery-bermuda-triangle)recently ridiculed the very idea of a mystery (a “phantom mystery”), The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-suggest-new-theory-behind-mystery-bermuda-triangle-meteorologists-columbia-a7375671.html) reported in the last week:

Scientists have now claimed that hexagonal clouds creating “air-bombs” with winds of up to 170mph could be responsible for hundreds of unsolved incidents at sea. This is no explanation: people survive 300 mph storms and there is always plenty of debris as well. I would suppose that a hexagon is merely a 2D projection from above of a 3D phenomenon, a hexahedron in which people get caught up: but where do they go? We still don’t know. For more on the idea that MH370 began “behaving less like a particle than a probability wave” see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85903-Anomalies-in-The-Ruiner-s-material&p=1009380&viewfull=1#post1009380).
I report here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86211-Of-great-importance-Dave-Hodges-revelations-about-the-Secret-Space-Program&p=1013399&viewfull=1#post1013399)how, according to mainstream science (Michio Kaku), “collapsing the wave function is no longer necessary”.

The real mystery will only be solved when these hexagonal clouds are combined with the mother of all hexagonal clouds at the north pole on Saturn, aka Cronus the crow, hence Chronos, Father Time. This brings us to David Talbott’s theory (corroborated by the electric universe theory) of Earth and Venus formerly belonging to a Saturn system. I have looked in a number of posts into how this might actually work – the circumstances needed for these planets to get from that configuration to their presentday one – and into some of the consequences then and now – notably the beginning of time, and the co-existence of two different clocks, a slow one on Saturn way out from the Sun, a much faster one here on Earth. This would of course create a major discrepancy between long-lived creatures seen down here as immortal gods, and us ephemeral creatures seen from up there as little more than fruit flies. Any Saturnian interference would certainly appear to us very clumsy once we began to observe notice it. Notice how the above scenario creates an intermediate race between ET per se and earthlings per se, in a sense a “parent” race, but operating like a dysfunctional family and reaching a make-or-break point, as families do. For my posts on this subject, start here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91918-Saturn-is-not-as-it-looks.&p=1082523&viewfull=1#post1082523).

Bill’s point about remote viewing turning at some stage into remote influencing obviously makes a great deal of sense even if we see it as an entirely passive process. Remote viewers have indeed reported having been detected and told to get out, which means you do have this possibly interfering presence when you remote view. I have suggested elsewhere that the JFK assassination would be a prime target for remote viewers. They may include some of the many witnesses who “died” shortly afterwards. They may include some of the numerous possible assassins all interfering in the process and giving rise to the utter mess of conspiracy theories trying to make sense of it all. See here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84692-Proof-of-time-travel-by-Jane-Tripp&p=996365&viewfull=1#post996365).

I recently (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93755-Multi-dimensionality-lecture&p=1105090&viewfull=1#post1105090)mentioned a situation where we all become remote viewers of a sort – when we visit an art museum – and what happens when an artist like Manet reacts to our presence.

Then you have the matrix view of reality. I have debated the negative aspect of this issue (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86791-Road-to-world-peace&p=1021706&viewfull=1#post1021706) with former member observer, notably here:
I have also mentioned Stephen King’s novel Under the Dome in a number of posts:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81835-My-experience-of-meeting-Bill-Ryan-many-years-ago&p=958325&viewfull=1#post958325
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72796-Carl-Sagan-on-Alien-Abduction&p=851811&viewfull=1#post851811
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=756603&viewfull=1#post756603
The last of these is part of a discussion on other lifetimes in connection with time travel. The idea is that if you are having a nonlinear experience of linear time, then it is not only past lives: you might equally be popping in from a later lifetime. This fits in with Dan Burisch’s material. See point 16 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88839-Nibiru-Will-Pass-Earth-Before-November-2017-The-Evidence-w-Investigator-David-Meade&p=1053507&viewfull=1#post1053507). See also this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63740-Does-anyone-have-any-details-of-an-altered-Napoleon-timeline&p=736817&viewfull=1#post736817).

All the above suggests the following thought experiment. Imagine you want to redecorate your living-room, which over time has turned into a dirty dark gray. Right now it is no colour, and it is every colour because you are at the stage where you have a colour chart from the paint store and are consulting various people. Some remember your house from way back, when it was a beautiful sky blue. Others recall various more recent stages when it was nice in a homely sort of way, i.e. far from ideal, but it brings back happy memories. Then you start getting visitors who last saw it next year, or the year after, and they are saying, “I remember, it’s going to be sky blue”! Then more time travellers come in – ordinary people whose last lifetime was in our future – and a consensus is gradually reached over some shade of luminous sky blue. However, a few people, who know this is the actual future colour, nevertheless call for black, or failing that a very deep blue, because they remember how in their future lifetimes they couldn’t cope with all the brightness.

What I have just described corresponds to a background consensus reality for a given period of time. Of course it is not really like a paint job, with choice followed by execution; it is more like adjusting the brightness on a screen, where choice and execution are parts of the same process. But, from any given personal viewpoint, what you will see is a naturally occurring Mandela effect. If your past or future memory of the particular shade is not spot on (and for most people it won’t be that precise), then you will be more aware of the fast changing reality. The simple fact is that reality is changing too quickly for our own perceptions. If I try explaining to a youngster what life was like in the 1950s, or how dead their now busy town was in the 1970s, they will wonder what planet I am from, and understandably, because that is also how it seems to me :)

So the Mandela effect may be just the tip of the iceberg which Dolores Cannon called the two earths. Hillary Clinton will disappear from the history books even before they are written, and indeed history books as we know them will themselves fade away into the distance. We won’t be needing the winner’s story (actually the loser’s) any more, once we reach the point when there are no winners and losers, any more than we need to remember how ugly the house had got before we redecorated. You don’t need to imagine the earth literally splitting into two. Hence, when for Michio Kaku we live in a reality where “collapsing the wave function is no longer necessary”, what we are talking about is likely this limbo, this instant of hesitation when collapsing the wave function is still necessary, but actually caught in the moment of collapsing. They say this is the planet of choice. We can theorize about a decor that is every colour of the rainbow, but meanwhile pragmatism dictates that we make a collective choice and live with it for a while, see what a difference it makes.

[Cartomancer]

History to some degree is many times different than what you will read from any given source. It is inexorably tied to political opinions and the shaping of society. You can discern the truth via genealogy and personal correspondance of historical figures many times. In addition the by product of any psy-op or intentional clouding of the waters includes a vast amount of exaggeration often leaving the subject overwhelmed and unable to really understand what is going on. In other words yes there are things different then efforts are made to exaggerate and cover up the what ever they wish to hide. For instance if you really look the U.S. was really created by a small group of Jesuit Catholics who had been kicked out of England over a seventy year period. No one talks about that but we are given a homogonized version of what happened that kind of sticks to a loosely organized narrative. So these kinds of things contribute to people having different memories about history and what they may have been taught when they were young and in school I have misquoted historical facts in interviews I have done so this kind of thing could contribute as well.

Could this be because of some interdimensional distrubance. I guess that is possible but would lean more towards people causing things to be viewed differently. Could some of this be explained by something like people remembering the words to a song or the concept of "Chinese Whispers?"

[BMJ]

We also still have the case of the missing MH370. I suggested at the time that it may have disappeared into another dimension (in what amounts to a Bermuda triangle event).

Relevant to your post. It might be stretching it a bit, but I thought it could have been a bermuda triangle type event also or a shift in timelines which either saw MH370 shifting into another reality or being destroyed by the event.

Looking at the screen shot in the youtube video showing this land mass of Western Australia which is not there as we know it, also being approximately in the same location as the last known position of MH370. Who knows how large an area such an event could have encompassed.

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Below from wikipedia. Map of MH370 flight path with GEOMAR calculations of wing flaperon origin. Note the stated last known position of MH370 being in the same region as this land mass.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/MH370_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_map_GEOMAR_calculation_01_EN.png/800px-MH370_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_map_GEOMAR_calculation_01_EN.png

[Patient]

A few months ago I listened to a radio show (recorded on you tube) and right now i feel like an idiot for not posting it. At the time I was looking for an answer to the Mandela effect just like everyone here. There was a scientist who apparently use to work at cern(?) and he was talking about the Mandela effect and how it was created. I will continue to search, but I am afraid it was taken down.

Basically what I recall;
D-wave computer connected to google gathering all info of the entire world.
Another D-wave computer more powerful sentient artificial intelligent computer - located somewhere but connected to google and to the computers at the Haldron collider.
This computer uses the collider to do experiments to see how these changes to our reality affects the populace - but to what end?

Considering all that I have researched and the worlds' current events, I see the major "dumbing down" of the people has really been effective. The amount of people that don't seem to care at all about the mandela effects - even those that go "hey! that's weird!" and then they don't care. I know toy collectors who specialize in star wars toys - "C 3PO has a silver leg? No! Look, I have one that is all gold." Then their face changes to no emotion and they move in with their life - where did the passion go? Sorry, I am starting to rant! (I still have passion! LOL)

I am going to try to find that show - whoever that scientists was, I recall hearing anxiety in his voice - his theory, if it was just a theory - really connected the dots.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

While writing that post, I started to get a headache - and now it has turned into a good one with loud ringing in my ears - all I want to do is lay down. I have never really beleived that I could be remotely affected but now I am starting to wonder.

[Hervé]

Star Wars Episode 3 (Revenge.of.the.Sith.2005) C3PO is all golden color by movie end... Episode 4 (A.New.Hope.1977) and the movie starts with C3PO having a "silver" right lower leg... I guess they couldn't find a matching spare part after its last clean up and hard drive reformatting :)
From Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/baasepagek1.html):
Mandela effect Star Wars

Anonymous sent:

Interesting Madela effect - tmz article about Fisher death. Slide show has pic with the 2 robots and others and one leg on 3PO is silver. I saw all the flicks when they came out and he never had a silver leg; he was all gold, every film. Bastards..."
My response:

I figured out what happened with the silver leg. Here it is: Star Wars was completely remastered in the 1990's. And at that time, they decided to turn the leg silver. Disney further totally screwed up Return Of The Jedi by totally changing the end of the movie. The beautiful Ewok song has been replaced with a stupid New Age flute, their celebration is totally watered down, and Darth is no longer at the end projected by the force with Obie one, it is instead that stupid turd from the add on episode (I forgot his name, but the next villain). Totally infuriating useless stupid tweaks that had no place and should not have been done. I guess Disney wanted to establish continuity when I really think all they did was anger people who knew what it was before. Since the new stuff is re-hashed old themes I guess they figured the kiddies would not notice.

That's right folks, it is not Mandela effect, it was tampering with the movie and I was completely turned off when they wiped out the Ewok song and replaced it with that stupid new age flute. That just chapped me.

[the_real_dave-id]

I have DVD copies of the original Star Wars films made from the Laserdisc editions (remember Laserdiscs?) that were released BEOFRE Lucas "tampered" with them adding in more monsters, fixing sfx problems and changing whether Boba Fett shot first or not.

In these versions C3PO does indeed have a silver lower right leg. So I believe it was NOT added in when they rejiggered the films.

However, I saw all 3 in the theater when they were released originally and watched them on VHS when they came out and do not remember ever seeing a silver lower right leg. But there it is on early copies before the "upgrade" was done. Hmmmm?

A quick scan of ebay shows early versions of the toy, both vintage and the 1995 re-release editions sporting a completely gold CP3O right leg, while later versions of the action figure have a silver or steel colored one. The midsection of the 1995 toys was done with small amounts of red and blue paint to make the wiring look right... so I doubt they would just leave the right leg all gold if they knew it was supposed to be silver. What could this mean?


While I think Bill's theory of someone experimenting with changing tiny things in the past and watching the results before moving onto changing big things is interesting, it seems to me that if anything was changed in the past there would be no memory or physical evidence of the original in our present. Nobody'd notice, and no toys would be both ways.

I'm leaning towards some kind of dimensional/timeline merge which would possibly allow for people still having both experiences --- Some remembering "stein" and some "stain" as the last part of the name of the bears, for instance.

Maybe all these Mandela Effects are the result of something someone did in the past, rather than them actually messing with these things directly. Dunno. So wish I did.

[Patient]

I have my personal piece of evidence - found a Berenstein Bear story book (as it use to be spelled 'Berenstein'), and my entire family remembers it being spelled that way, however in this old book it has changed to 'Berenstain'. This book has been in our possession - no one came and swapped it out. This isn't something someone switched on the internet. This is something in our hands. Just brings it into your reality that much stronger! (I no longer have my old VHS tapes of Star Wars or I would have reviewed those already.)

[Flash]

Is the Mandela effect worldwide, or is it only in the anglo-saxon world?

If we changed timelines, or anything alike, even so slightly, the Mandela effect should be worldwide, irrespective of languages and local history right?

However, if the effect is only in the Anglo-Saxon world, than we may presume it is either non existent, or the manipulation of memories is being implemented in the Anglo-Saxon world only, the secret test would be in English only, and the history for the English speaking world only.

To start with, Nelson Mandela is part of the Anglo-Saxon world.

Second, is the Mandela effect found in other cultures and other languages?

So, I looked at Snow White, in French. I have one book here with Snow White story, in French, where it is said that the mirror is a magic one in the prose of the text.

However, when the bad Queen ask the mirror, she ask - Mirror, nice Mirror, tell me who is the prettiest - in a web version, the word nice mirror is changed for pretty mirror.

But never is the mirror hanging on the wall or addressed to as hanging on the wall nor addressed as being magic. My memory is with the nice mirror: Miroir, gentil miroir, dis-moi qui est la plus belle!

Therefore, the Mandela effect for Snow White does not exist in French.

So, Hervé and other French people, have you noticed anything that is like the Mandela effect but in French and in our respective cultures?

Same for Spanish speaking people, have you noticed any Mandela effect?

This would give a totally different dimension to the Mandela effect.

On devrait tous faire un rapide tour de table dans nos langues et cultures respectives. À date, je n'en trouve pas en français, ni au Québec.

Porque no buscar a palabras o publicidades con el Mandela effect en espanol o en su cultura propia?

[seehas]

Is the Mandela effect worldwide, or is it only in the anglo-saxon world?

If we changed timelines, or anything alike, even so slightly, the Mandela effect should be worldwide, irrespective of languages and local history right?

However, if the effect is only in the Anglo-Saxon world, than we may presume it is either non existent, or the manipulation of memories is being implemented in the Anglo-Saxon world only, the secret test would be in English only, and the history for the English speaking world only.

To start with, Nelson Mandela is part of the Anglo-Saxon world.

Second, is the Mandela effect found in other cultures and other languages?

So, I looked at Snow White, in French. I have one book here with Snow White story, in French, where it is said that the mirror is a magic one in the prose of the text.

However, when the bad Queen ask the mirror, she ask - Mirror, nice Mirror, tell me who is the prettiest - in a web version, the word nice mirror is changed for pretty mirror.

But never is the mirror hanging on the wall or addressed to as hanging on the wall nor addressed as being magic. My memory is with the nice mirror: Miroir, gentil miroir, dis-moi qui est la plus belle!

Therefore, the Mandela effect for Snow White does not exist in French.

So, Hervé and other French people, have you noticed anything that is like the Mandela effect but in French and in our respective cultures?

Same for Spanish speaking people, have you noticed any Mandela effect?

This would give a totally different dimension to the Mandela effect.

On devrait tous faire un rapide tour de table dans nos langues et cultures respectives. À date, je n'en trouve pas en français, ni au Québec.

Porque no buscar a palabras o publicidades con el Mandela effect en espanol o en su cultura propia?

the changes in the bible should indicate that this is a world wide phenomenon, ive just learned about it a few days ago and im still a little shocked :)

what i found out so far is that there seem to be every month new "effects" seems to be an interesting year.

did you guys see the mona lisa? for me this looks like a fake and not the one i remember or maybe im going crazy?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Mona_Lisa%2C_by_Leonardo_da_Vinci%2C_from_C2RMF_retouched.jpg/800px-Mona_Lisa%2C_by_Leonardo_da_Vinci%2C_from_C2RMF_retouched.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

I have my personal piece of evidence - found a Berenstein Bear story book (as it use to be spelled 'Berenstein'), and my entire family remembers it being spelled that way, however in this old book it has changed to 'Berenstain'. This book has been in our possession - no one came and swapped it out. This isn't something someone switched on the internet. This is something in our hands. Just brings it into your reality that much stronger! (I no longer have my old VHS tapes of Star Wars or I would have reviewed those already.)

Yes... see my post #20, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93458-Research-paper-on-The-Mandela-Effect-strong-statistical-evidence&p=1102601&viewfull=1#post1102601):


My first encounter with the Mandela Effect (not even called that then) was several years ago, when I was copied in on an e-mail conversation between Mars image researchers. One swore blind that a certain feature was present, and the other agreed, but then when they went to check their printed hard-copy photos, the photos had changed. They were dumbfounded.

Memories aren't actually in the physical universe, per se. The past changes... but the non-physical traces (memories) don't.

[bluestflame]

the ultimate way to cleanup evidence of high level criminal activity

[seehas]

i just found a realy interesting comment in youtube and i will post it for you all, tell me what you think about it.

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170107/fzl9l4fc.jpg

[Smell the Roses]

Does anyone remember with certainty what was going on in your life when you heard the news about the government attack on Waco. Without looking it up, what year was it for you?

[Smell the Roses]

i just found a realy interesting comment in youtube and i will post it for you all, tell me what you think about it.



This YouTube comment is a plausible hypothesis. It is clear that many humans have fully bought in to the mass-media promoted false reality. I like the idea of a covert coded whistleblower.

[Honesty]

..........

[Bill Ryan]

I do not recall there being a large land mass west of Australia...



No kidding. :facepalm:

That isn't there, never was there, and never will be there. :)

And if you play the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCzkfIvnuE), to see the globe spinning, I can't see New Zealand...

I'm downloading a 1080p version of Dazed and Confused, and I'll post a high-resolution freeze frame or clip to see what the strange object on the globe looks like.

[Bill Ryan]

.
Here's the 3 second video clip of the spinning globe, 1080p BluRay, very high resolution:


http://projectavalon.net/Dazed_and_Confused_1993_1080p_BluRay_Spinning_Globe_clip.mov (14.5 Mb)

or


http://projectavalon.net/Dazed_and_Confused_1993_1080p_BluRay_Spinning_Globe_clip.mp4 (1.9 Mb, smaller file)

(New Zealand is there, if you nudge it forward frame by frame and look very closely.)

[Hervé]

It's just a warning to adventurers that: "There Be Monsters!" :bigsmile:

You know... like so:

https://www.georgeglazer.com/globes/archive-table20/images/rm12glassbase.jpg

https://www.georgeglazer.com/globes/archive-table20/images/rm12glassbasecart.jpg
Rand McNally & Company
12-Inch Art Deco Terrestrial Table Globe
Chicago: c. 1940
https://www.georgeglazer.com/globes/archive-table20/rm12glassbase.html

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5840889/il_570xN.148970308.jpg

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Yes a possibility that it's some sort of legend imprinted on the side of the globe, like this still from another clip:

34801

[Bill Ryan]

Look at this :)


http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons" (http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons")


http://projectavalon.net/Looney_Toons_Christianity_Today_search.gif

[Ewan]

Look at this :)


http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons" (http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons")





Sorry, I don't understand. I'm looking at spelling mistakes*, or is this an example of how one word can replace another and forty years from now people will be saying I remember it was Looney Tunes?

A search on same website for "looney tunes" returns 11 results.

*assumes said authors never saw a Looney Tunes cartoon in their life and are just guessing based on a more modern parlance of 'toons

I'm missing something here aren't I?

[Bill Ryan]

Look at this :)


http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons" (http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons")



Sorry, I don't understand. I'm looking at spelling mistakes*, or is this an example of how one word can replace another and forty years from now people will be saying I remember it was Looney Tunes?

A search on same website for "looney tunes" returns 11 results.

*assumes said authors never saw a Looney Tunes cartoon in their life and are just guessing based on a more modern parlance of 'toons

I'm missing something here aren't I?

Yes. It used to be Looney Toons. (As in cartoons.) Now, it's changed.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It could be that people mis-remember this sort of thing, and replace the actual name with a construct of their own that, though it may logically fit, is not accurate. At least it's possible. Personally I remember 'Looney Tunes', not toons.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0_ynVlwAg9U/RdyisVL21cI/AAAAAAAAA8Q/wVrkfLLfNZ8/s320/lttaf.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Yes. It used to be Looney Toons. (As in cartoons.) Now, it's changed.

Looney Tunes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes)




"Looney Tunes is an American animated series of comedy short films produced by Warner Bros. from 1930 to 1969 during the golden age of American animation, alongside its sister series Merrie Melodies.[2] It was known for introducing such famous cartoon characters as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Elmer Fudd, Tweety Bird, Sylvester the Cat, Yosemite Sam, Foghorn Leghorn, Marvin the Martian, Pepé Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner, the Tasmanian Devil, and many others. These characters themselves are commonly referred to as the "Looney Tunes”."


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Clampett-Porky.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Looney_tunes_careta.png


The Looney Tunes Show
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looney_Tunes_Show)



"The Looney Tunes Show premiered in the United States on May 3, 2011, through August 31, 2014, on Cartoon Network. In Australia, the first two seasons of the series began airing on 9Go!. And Foxtel channel on Cartoon Network."

"The Looney Tunes Show is an American animated sitcom that ran from May 3, 2011, through August 31, 2014, on Cartoon Network. The show features characters from the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies theatrical cartoons updated for the 21st century. It is produced by Warner Bros. Animation. On July 29, 2014, producer Tony Cervone confirmed that the series would not be renewed for a third season in light of Wabbit.[1] Looney Tunes: Rabbits Run is an animated direct-to-video spin-off film released on August 4, 2015.[2]"

Warner's cartoons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros.#Warner.27s_cartoons)




"Warner's cartoon unit had its roots in the independent Harman and Ising studio. From 1930 to 1933, Disney alumni Hugh Harman and Rudolf Ising produced musical cartoons for Leon Schlesinger, who sold them to Warner. Harman and Ising introduced their character Bosko in the first Looney Tunes cartoon, Sinkin' in the Bathtub, and created a sister series, Merrie Melodies, in 1931.[110]"

"In 1935, Avery directed cartoons starring Porky Pig, which established the character as the studio's first animated star.[111] In addition to Porky, Warner Bros. cartoon characters Daffy Duck (who debuted in the 1937 short Porky's Duck Hunt), Elmer Fudd (who debuted in the 1940 short Elmer's Candid Camera), Bugs Bunny (who debuted in the 1940 short A Wild Hare), and Tweety (who debuted in the 1942 short A Tale of Two Kitties) achieved star power.[112] By 1942, the Schlesinger studio had surpassed Walt Disney Studios as the most successful producer of animated shorts.[113]"

"Warner Bros. eventually bought Schlesinger's cartoon unit in 1944 and renamed it Warner Bros. Cartoons. Unfortunately, the unit was indifferently treated by senior management, beginning with the installation of Edward Selzer as senior producer, whom the creative staff considered an interfering incompetent. Jack had little regard for the company's short film product and reputedly was so ignorant about the animation division of the studio that he was mistakenly convinced that the unit produced cartoons of Mickey Mouse, Walt Disney Productions' flagship character.[114] He sold off the unit's pre-August 1948 library for $3,000 each, which proved a shortsighted transaction in light of its eventual value.[114]"

"Warner Bros. Cartoons continued, with intermittent interruptions, until 1969 when it was dissolved as the parent company ceased film shorts entirely. Characters such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Tweety Bird, Sylvester, and Porky Pig became central to the company's image in subsequent decades…"

[sunwings]

Looney Toons is a poplular Mandela effect. I certainly remember Toons not Tunes.

As Bill pointed out the Name is a play on cartoons , while Tunes just doesn´t make sense and never will.

In 1990 Warner Brothers and Spielberg created Tiny Toons. A Spin off from Looney Toons using baby versions of the famous Looney toons characters.

Why didn't they call it Tiny Tunes?

https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/32/96/875653c65af61dd095db599209c0fb38.jpg

[Innocent Warrior]

An interesting resource to use when seeing whether a presented Mandela effect is a construct of their own mind, as Star Mariner suggests, or a legit Mandela effect is eBay. The items will show the changed version, while the seller lists it as per their memory of it, and if a search returns a significant number of results, it's reasonable to suggest it's a legit ME. In that case, the differing memories between individuals may suggest they remember different timelines. Looney Toons returns 3,013 results (that includes some Tiny Toons listings) - http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?isRefine=false&_nkw=looney+toons&_blrs=spell_check

[Satori]

My last name is Looney. Two of my brothers and I played guitar most of our lives, for ****s and giggles mostly. We used to joke that if we ever performed together we would call ourselves "Looney Tunes" because we remembered what is now "Looney Tunes" as "Looney Toons" and by using the name "Looney Tunes", a play of words on music, that we would not be sued for trade name or copyright infringement. I guess we were wrong and we would have been sued if we had followed up on that and if we didn't suck as musicians.

[Bob]

For what it's worth - as the logo/trademark for Warner Bros. was legally registered with the trademark/patent office (see below), doing a search for historical reference there provides this:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3Atmt1dr.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=looney+tunes&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query


http://chanlo.com/images/tunes-search.jpg

from a 1940's era trademark

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/4/4c/House_Hunting_Mouse_Original_Titles_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20141103214310

and

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/7/7f/House_Hunting_Mouse_Original_Titles_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20141103214337

(title: House Hunting Mouse")

I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:tmt1dr.2.31

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ImageAgent/ImageAgentProxy?getImage=73079999

[sunwings]

An interesting resource to use when seeing whether a presented Mandela effect is a construct of their own mind, as Star Mariner suggests, or a legit Mandela effect is eBay. The items will show the changed version, while the seller lists it as per their memory of it, and if a search returns a significant number of results, it's reasonable to suggest it's a legit ME. In that case, the differing memories between individuals may suggest they remember different timelines. Looney Toons returns 3,013 results (that includes some Tiny Toons listings) - http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?isRefine=false&_nkw=looney+toons&_blrs=spell_check

The Sex in the city Ebay page is another great example of peoples memories not matching up with reality.

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw=looney+toons&isRefine=false&_blrs=spell_check&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xsex+in+the+city.TRS0&_nkw=sex+in+the+city&_sacat=0

[Innocent Warrior]

I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...05:tmt1dr.2.31


Very cool because I vividly remember Looney Toons, I can still see the image of it in my mind and Looney Tunes looks wrong. The next thought you typically have is, well maybe they changed it, but evidently not.

I've noticed two ways the ME is experienced that's convincing. One being the old version is a vivid memory and the change can't be dismissed. The other being I notice it first, before it's on the internet as a ME, and I think to myself something like, "how odd, I'm sure it was such and such, they must have changed it" and then you see it online and all the others who remember it exactly the same as you did. Some you can dismiss by thinking, well maybe we all sang the lyrics wrong, that happens a lot, but there are all sorts of different changes, so after a few that reasoning doesn't stick so well. Looney Toons is a good one, because we saw it so many times, so I imagine it's quite vivid for a lot of people.

[Ewan]

Of course it was Toons, I don't know what happened to me yesterday. For some reason I thought Tunes was right, nothing odd about it, hence my query to Bill's post. But once I saw the image(s) posted by RunningDeer I knew it was 'wrong'.

The film with Bob Hoskins as the private-eye, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, it was all about Toon Town, it has always been Toons. Looney Toons makes sense, tunes does not really.

It is as though these changes are being done by an AI that doesn't have a full grasp of the language. Interview with the Vampire made a degree of sense, but Interview with A Vampire made more in connection with the actual film. Sex and the City never made much kind of sense, Sex in the City does.

Has the matrix got a virus?

[meat suit]

Of course it was Toons, I don't know what happened to me yesterday. For some reason I thought Tunes was right, nothing odd about it, hence my query to Bill's post. But once I saw the image(s) posted by RunningDeer I knew it was 'wrong'.

The film with Bob Hoskins as the private-eye, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, it was all about Toon Town, it has always been Toons. Looney Toons makes sense, tunes does not really.

It is as though these changes are being done by an AI that doesn't have a full grasp of the language. Interview with the Vampire made a degree of sense, but Interview with A Vampire made more in connection with the actual film. Sex and the City never made much kind of sense, Sex in the City does.

Has the matrix got a virus?

maybe we are on a dodgy 'backup'

[Flash]

I remember looney toons as well, the cartoon title was in English (not translated), but the cartoon itself was translated into French and I did listen to it when little.

However, curiously, I still fail to find any Mandela Effect in French itself and I find it very odd. Why wouldn't the Mandela effect be in every language?

And it is as often found in pictures (like the warlike robot sometimes with a silver leg and sometimes with a gold leg)?




I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...05:tmt1dr.2.31


Very cool because I vividly remember Looney Toons, I can still see the image of it in my mind and Looney Tunes looks wrong. The next thought you typically have is, well maybe they changed it, but evidently not.

I've noticed two ways the ME is experienced that's convincing. One being the old version is a vivid memory and the change can't be dismissed. The other being I notice it first, before it's on the internet as a ME, and I think to myself something like, "how odd, I'm sure it was such and such, they must have changed it" and then you see it online and all the others who remember it exactly the same as you did. Some you can dismiss by thinking, well maybe we all sang the lyrics wrong, that happens a lot, but there are all sorts of different changes, so after a few that reasoning doesn't stick so well. Looney Toons is a good one, because we saw it so many times, so I imagine it's quite vivid for a lot of people.

[AuCo]

I my memory serves me right. I once was watching "Looney Toons" and thought they could have played with words and named it "Looney Tunes" because the sound track was so "funky".

The focal point is how is a product called reality defined?

[7alon]

Look at this :)


http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons" (http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons")



Sorry, I don't understand. I'm looking at spelling mistakes*, or is this an example of how one word can replace another and forty years from now people will be saying I remember it was Looney Tunes?

A search on same website for "looney tunes" returns 11 results.

*assumes said authors never saw a Looney Tunes cartoon in their life and are just guessing based on a more modern parlance of 'toons

I'm missing something here aren't I?

Yes. It used to be Looney Toons. (As in cartoons.) Now, it's changed.

Wait.. it is Looney Tunes now?

This is gonna sound a little weird btw, but I noticed a moderator here called 'Rachel'. Before I start to forget, in case I do; until today there was no Rachel for me. She isn't the only one either. Marianne was never there either for me.

Just wanted to say that because I've never experienced something like this just appear to me before (no offense to the people I named, just really shocked). I've had visions of other timelines recently, and somehow I knew what they were and started feeling really sad. I was going to post about it sooner, but it just seemed odd to me and I didn't feel ready to share it, until the above happened today.






Mod comment from Bill: Rachel used to be Innocent Warrior... see her Avatar, which still shows her old name, to avoid confusion (if possible!). We changed it when she rejoined the mods team a short while ago. It's a core part of the Avalon tradition that all mods have 'real' names, to present a human face to the community at all times.

[Bob]

Searched the patent/trademark database again today, searched on "Looney Toons" - this was the database reply

No TESS records were found to match the criteria of your query.

Then searched the patent/trademark database for "Looney Tunes" - this was the database reply

32 Records(s) found (This page: 1 ~ 32)


The records are as follows (no change from yesterday's search)

http://chanlo.com/images/tunes-search.jpg

Another "Looney Tunes" image frequently used
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ImageAgent/ImageAgentProxy?getImage=75235775

In 1953 this was registered with the US trademark/patent office

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/img/71647671/large?1492701342161

I am familiar with the concept of "quantum track slide". My belief is there is not enough quantum alteration happening atm to induce such slides. I do believe an event horizon matrix opening (not a virus) can appear only during hydrogen bomb explosions, or supernova events. I don't believe we have been near by any supernova events. For what its worth.

[Flash]

I remember looney toons as well, the cartoon title was in English (not translated), but the cartoon itself was translated into French and I did listen to it when little.

However, curiously, I still fail to find any Mandela Effect in French itself and I find it very odd. Why wouldn't the Mandela effect be in every language?

And it is as often found in pictures (like the warlike robot sometimes with a silver leg and sometimes with a gold leg)?




I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...05:tmt1dr.2.31


Very cool because I vividly remember Looney Toons, I can still see the image of it in my mind and Looney Tunes looks wrong. The next thought you typically have is, well maybe they changed it, but evidently not.

I've noticed two ways the ME is experienced that's convincing. One being the old version is a vivid memory and the change can't be dismissed. The other being I notice it first, before it's on the internet as a ME, and I think to myself something like, "how odd, I'm sure it was such and such, they must have changed it" and then you see it online and all the others who remember it exactly the same as you did. Some you can dismiss by thinking, well maybe we all sang the lyrics wrong, that happens a lot, but there are all sorts of different changes, so after a few that reasoning doesn't stick so well. Looney Toons is a good one, because we saw it so many times, so I imagine it's quite vivid for a lot of people.

I must add something else to this post of mine above.

This morning , i decided to search for Looney toones but in the French google search, and felt on a site for the most likes cartoons. I punch in 50's and 60's and got l
Looney toones in it. I thought "wow, just got it, with the original wording, I will post it on avalon, since the French side has not Mandela effect". I came, wrote the post, went back to get the 50's and 60's add for Looney toones and it had become Looney tunes. I truly thought I had crossed eyes, or something, in fact I thought it was the unconscious infuence of this thread that made me see it as Looney Toons at first. I thought "am I going nuts?". I did not dare writing up what I had seen at first, because I really thought I had been influenced and that the actual French add was for Looney Tunes all along, but wishing to see Toons, i had seen it, instead of the real stuff.

But thinking it over, maybe we are actually creating reality as we go along, changing stuff, therefore the Mandela effect, which is now becoming transparent and fast how creative/reality creating we are.

To tell the truth, I am confused about this since this morning.

[Bob]

An original audio track plus the video track, how it opened. It hasn't change for me for as long as I can remember, Tunes, not Toons.. is what continues to come up. I just can't get into the "slide" and experience it as "toons", sorry.. maybe the audio will re-que the original track. The idea of sliding onto the "other track" is intriguing, I will say that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jTHNBKjMBU

[7alon]

Look at this :)


http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons" (http://christianitytoday.com/ct/search/?x=0&y=0&query="Looney+Toons")



Sorry, I don't understand. I'm looking at spelling mistakes*, or is this an example of how one word can replace another and forty years from now people will be saying I remember it was Looney Tunes?

A search on same website for "looney tunes" returns 11 results.

*assumes said authors never saw a Looney Tunes cartoon in their life and are just guessing based on a more modern parlance of 'toons

I'm missing something here aren't I?

Yes. It used to be Looney Toons. (As in cartoons.) Now, it's changed.

Wait.. it is Looney Tunes now?

This is gonna sound a little weird btw, but I noticed a moderator here called 'Rachel'. Before I start to forget, in case I do; until today I there was no Rachel for me. She isn't the only one either. Marianne was never there either for me.

Just wanted to say that because I've never experienced something like this just appear to me before (no offense to the people I named, just really shocked). I've had visions of other timelines recently, and somehow I knew what they were and started feeling really sad. I was going to post about it sooner, but it just seemed odd to me and I didn't feel ready to share it, until the above happened today.



Mod comment from Bill: Rachel used to be Innocent Warrior... see her Avatar, which still shows her old name, to avoid confusion (if possible!). We changed it when she rejoined the mods team a short while ago. It's a core part of the Avalon tradition that all mods have 'real' names, to present a human face to the community at all times.


Oh man, this can get really confusing LOL.:facepalm:

By any chance is this the case with Marianne too? I regularly look at the list of moderators and they were never there before. I remember things like a war that never happened. I think it was between Russia and the US. I definitely remember Putin being president, but I don't remember who the US president was. Strangely I don't believe it was either Trump OR Hillary. It was a man with lighter hair, old.. I don't know if it was Bernie Sanders. I'm not trying to play games here, I would never do that, just sharing my experiences.






From Bill: No, Marianne's been a mod forever, and her name has never changed.

[7alon]

I remember looney toons as well, the cartoon title was in English (not translated), but the cartoon itself was translated into French and I did listen to it when little.

However, curiously, I still fail to find any Mandela Effect in French itself and I find it very odd. Why wouldn't the Mandela effect be in every language?

And it is as often found in pictures (like the warlike robot sometimes with a silver leg and sometimes with a gold leg)?




I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...05:tmt1dr.2.31


Very cool because I vividly remember Looney Toons, I can still see the image of it in my mind and Looney Tunes looks wrong. The next thought you typically have is, well maybe they changed it, but evidently not.

I've noticed two ways the ME is experienced that's convincing. One being the old version is a vivid memory and the change can't be dismissed. The other being I notice it first, before it's on the internet as a ME, and I think to myself something like, "how odd, I'm sure it was such and such, they must have changed it" and then you see it online and all the others who remember it exactly the same as you did. Some you can dismiss by thinking, well maybe we all sang the lyrics wrong, that happens a lot, but there are all sorts of different changes, so after a few that reasoning doesn't stick so well. Looney Toons is a good one, because we saw it so many times, so I imagine it's quite vivid for a lot of people.

I must add something else to this post of mine above.

This morning , i decided to search for loony toones but in the French google search, and felt on a site for the most likes cartoons. I punch in 50's and 60's and got loony toones in it. I taught "wow, just got it, with the original wording, I will post it on avalon, since the French side has not Mandela effect". I came, wrote the post, went back to get the 50's and 60's add for Looney toones and it had become Looney tunes. I truly taught I had crossed eyes, or something, in fact I thought it was the unconscious infuence of this thread that made me see it as Looney Toons at first. I tought "am I going nuts?". I did not dare writing up what I had seen at first, because I really thought I had been influenced and that the actual French add was for Looney Tunes all along, but wishing to see Toons, i had seen it, instead of the real stuff.

But thinking it over, maybe we are actually creating reality as we go along, changing stuff, therefore the Mandela effect, which is now becoming transparent and fast how creative/reality creating we are.

To tell the truth, I am confused about this since this morning.

No this kind of thing happens to me too, you're not going nuts :P.

It is hard to describe, it is like my mind slips between two realities almost. Then you just think you were imagining it. Just minutes ago I received another shock because in a thread Omnisense made, they were talking about Stanley Kubrick's death after Eyes Wide Shut. I was sitting there thinking.. Umm no Stanley Kubrick died in 2010 at 82. I went to search to prove them wrong.. and yeah apparently I'm wrong :P

[kanishk]

What about this SHAZAM movie footage. I never saw this movie, but one friend told me saw it when he was kid. I showed him this clip. He says he remembers little bit.

If this Video is of real SHAZAM movie which was never been made then this clip may have been brought by a time traveler. And if is a fake footage made in studio, then its just the culdesac for those who are new to this Madela Effect topic thinking that its just a Bogus theory.

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Here is the original Footage. This footage is recently uploaded on Internet, most probably 1st April
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Here is the original Footage. This footage is recently uploaded on Internet, most probably 1st April

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Good find, kanishk. :happythumbsup: Two for the price of one… in the video you provided, there’s a commercial for Fruit Loops @ 36 sec (https://youtu.be/tD0rchvuoMU?t=36s).


screen shot from video
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/fruit-loops_zpsvlc8pk7k.JPG

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/two-fruits_zpsree697ow.JPG


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What does Sinbad say (http://www.inquisitr.com/3849514/shazam-movie-sinbad-comments-on-playing-a-genie-in-a-movie-people-remember-but-cant-find-anymore/) about Shazam?


Sinbad’s Tweet
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/tweet_zpsf2xbfn8m.JPG





Sinbad recently took to Twitter to comment on playing a genie in a movie called Shazam (also commonly spelled Shazaam) that people say they remember but apparently can’t find anymore.

The Shazam movie “Mandela Effect” has taken the internet community by storm. Fans say they vividly remember watching a Sinbad genie movie dating back to the early 90s but finding tangible proof the Shazam movie ever existed is impossible. People have now resorted to calling out Sinbad on social media for an explanation of what happened to the Shazam movie. So, starting late last month, Sinbad decided to address the whole Shazam movie phenomenon in a series of tweets and finally put to rest whether he really did play a genie in a movie.


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Video footage on Imdb.com registers Shazam, but when he clicks on it the link it goes to somewhere else. @ 1:22 (https://youtu.be/hKp4voEG8zA?t=1m22s). It's too bad he didn't refresh the page to see if the Shazam link still comes up.



NEW 2017 Mandela Effect? Shazam (1994) Movie with Sinbad Proof?!? REAL OR HOAX??
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Published on Feb 20, 2017

This is my first video, I made this channel for this, and I will make more!
I was sent this video by a friend, and I wanted to share this with people out there. I don't know where he recieved this video, but please, Check this out!! IS THIS REAL OR A HOAX? Please Subscribe below!! Thanks~!
Comment, like and share!!


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Side note: It doesn’t show when I looked it up (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005435/).


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/sinbad-show_zpssisfjtc1.JPG

[jms2112]

I have always thought that there were several SONGS that had changed from what I remember them as when I was younger. I was always puzzled by this but never could put my finger on it until all this Mandela Effect stuff started surfacing.

Just for yucks it was 'Frankenstein' by Edgar Winter and 'Man on the Silver Mountain' by Rainbow. From a kid I always remember the weird part in Frankenstein a little different. And the Rainbow song had a different voice inflection in the chorus. Who knows!

[araucaria]

I remember looney toons as well, the cartoon title was in English (not translated), but the cartoon itself was translated into French and I did listen to it when little.

However, curiously, I still fail to find any Mandela Effect in French itself and I find it very odd. Why wouldn't the Mandela effect be in every language?

And it is as often found in pictures (like the warlike robot sometimes with a silver leg and sometimes with a gold leg)?




I recall "tunes", not toons, as also apparently so does the patent/trademark database..

trademark database with original picture:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...05:tmt1dr.2.31
Very cool because I vividly remember Looney Toons, I can still see the image of it in my mind and Looney Tunes looks wrong. The next thought you typically have is, well maybe they changed it, but evidently not.

I've noticed two ways the ME is experienced that's convincing. One being the old version is a vivid memory and the change can't be dismissed. The other being I notice it first, before it's on the internet as a ME, and I think to myself something like, "how odd, I'm sure it was such and such, they must have changed it" and then you see it online and all the others who remember it exactly the same as you did. Some you can dismiss by thinking, well maybe we all sang the lyrics wrong, that happens a lot, but there are all sorts of different changes, so after a few that reasoning doesn't stick so well. Looney Toons is a good one, because we saw it so many times, so I imagine it's quite vivid for a lot of people.

I must add something else to this post of mine above.

This morning , i decided to search for loony toones but in the French google search, and felt on a site for the most likes cartoons. I punch in 50's and 60's and got loony toones in it. I taught "wow, just got it, with the original wording, I will post it on avalon, since the French side has not Mandela effect". I came, wrote the post, went back to get the 50's and 60's add for Looney toones and it had become Looney tunes. I truly taught I had crossed eyes, or something, in fact I thought it was the unconscious infuence of this thread that made me see it as Looney Toons at first. I tought "am I going nuts?". I did not dare writing up what I had seen at first, because I really thought I had been influenced and that the actual French add was for Looney Tunes all along, but wishing to see Toons, i had seen it, instead of the real stuff.

But thinking it over, maybe we are actually creating reality as we go along, changing stuff, therefore the Mandela effect, which is now becoming transparent and fast how creative/reality creating we are.

To tell the truth, I am confused about this since this morning.

No this kind of thing happens to me too, you're not going nuts :P.

It is hard to describe, it is like my mind slips between two realities almost. Then you just think you were imagining it. Just minutes ago I received another shock because in a thread Omnisense made, they were talking about Stanley Kubrick's death after Eyes Wide Shut. I was sitting there thinking.. Umm no Stanley Kubrick died in 2010 at 82. I went to search to prove them wrong.. and yeah apparently I'm wrong :P

When looking at the Mandela effect, we need to eliminate purely linguistic effects whereby alternative realities are created, whether deliberately (poetically) or accidentally. For example, the phrase ‘to toe the line’ is based on the image of runners lining up at the start of the race, and not reducing the distance by stepping onto the course. Hence the dictionary meaning, ‘to conform rigorously to a rule or standard’. However, someone who has only ever heard the phrase and doesn’t know the origin of the expression may start writing ‘tow the line’. The image now becomes one of sailors pulling a hawser or people in a tug of war. Even though the correct meaning may persist, this may change over time: as more people write ‘tow the line’, it may come to mean something very different, I’m not quite sure what. Whether or not it does is irrelevant: what has been created is a forking path in the language, a tiny event to be sure, but whichever way the cookie crumbles it has nothing to do with the Mandela effect.

This may be what is happening with Loony Tunes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_and_Merrie_Melodies_filmography_(1929%E2%80%9339))/Toons.
Loony Tunes started in 1930, to be joined by Merrie Melodies in 1931. This establishes the spelling Tunes as original since clearly ‘Merrie Melodies’ is a rewrite of ‘Loony Tunes’ (with an aliteration Me- Me- replacing the rhyme), whereas ‘Loony Toons’ would be only a transcription of the US pronunciation misspelt, whether deliberately or otherwise, in the context of cartoons; I would say it was deliberate, not only on the basis that it reduplicates the sequence -oon-: Loony Toons, but also because it is poetically effective, where the above example of toe/tow is simply a possibly irritating mistake. What makes a rhyme sublime is that it brings together an unlikely pair and makes them coalesce into a single concept: more like a chemical compound than a chemical mixture. The interesting thing in this case is that this single concept of the (car)toon tune was already in place in 1929:

In the film, a cartoonist (portrayed in live action by Rudolph Ising) draws Bosko, who comes to life. Bosko speaks, sings, dances and plays the piano before the cartoonist sucks him into his ink pen and pours him back into the inkwell.It should be remembered that sound movies were a brand new phenomenon at the time. The first feature film originally presented as a talkie, The Jazz Singer, was released in October 1927. Hence the marriage of picture and sound was much newer then than taking selfies with a smartphone is today. This is cutting-edge film-making, so the ‘toon-tune thing is more than just a fun pun.

Another aspect of this is evident in the ending: ‘the cartoonist sucks him into his ink pen and pours him back into the inkwell’. This is clearly based on the specifics of film, whereby a film can be played backwards. Since this is also applicable to a piece of music, I expect they played the toon backwards too. I occasionally catch at BBC Radio 3 programme when they play a piece of classical music backwards and the listener tries to identify it (a musical version of reverse speech): it is amazing how little difference it sometimes makes!

This whole story leads us in at least two directions. One is the Pinocchio effect of artificial life, which I discuss here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81124-Miles-W.-Mathis-Theories-about-Engineered-Events-in-History&p=1143037&viewfull=1#post1143037)in another context. The other is the retrograde effect of linear time, which I discuss here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=773285&viewfull=1#post773285)(and in the post before it) in yet another context.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I'm in agreement with that. The more I am exposed to examples of the Mandela Effect, the less convinced I am. 'Merrie Melodies' is an excellent point, I'd totally forgotten about that spin-off. Merrie - Loony / Melodies - Tunes. So of course Melodies only makes contextual sense when married to its forerunner Tunes, so it could never have been Toons. Consider also the musical fanfare that starts playing when those titles come up. That I presume IS the 'looney tune'.

I think Loony Toons has become another mythical buzzphrase, one that is easy for the mind to fasten onto if it is only casually familiar with the material, rather than being a die hard fan. A casual Star Trek fan will believe in "Beam me up Scotty", when a die hard will chuckle to himself, knowing full well for years and years that that phrase was never ever said.

[Atlas]

Not sure exactly why but I get a Mandala effect with Marty and Biff:

Back to the Future - Biff's World (1989)
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[sunwings]

Have I got news for you Time 15:45

Discusses the Mandela effect.

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Dr. Tarrin Lupo, a chiropractor compares physiological changes in the human anatomy between the new and old reality. Dr. Lupo finished his training in 2000 and it matches current reality. He explains that something shifted in the 1990’s.

I’ve added quick links to the specific topics. Note: Dani Arnold McKenny uses strong language.




”Tarrin and I took an in depth look at the physiological changes to our human anatomy, from the "new" skeletal structure to size and placement of various organs in the human body, and discussed what the physical ramifications to these changes could be. From body pain that has developed without any previous injury or accident, to visual and auditory changes.”

4:50 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=4m50s) - Universal donor blood type
7:53 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=7m53s) - Kidneys
11:36 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=11m36s) - other health professionals concur on the old reality.
16:22 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=16m22s) - floating ribs, ribcage
24:20 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=24m20s) - In the new reality the body is subpar and skull @ 25:45
39:54 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=39m54s) - pelvis, coccyx, sacrum
53:50 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=53m50s) - kidneys
1:20:13 (https://youtu.be/KNmFimcNSls?t=1h20m13s) - stomach, liver & subpar intestine



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Published on May 17, 2017

Sorry for the mix up with the previous video upload!!

On Transpicuous Views last night, I was joined by Dr. Tarrin Lupo in a continuation of our epic discussion that started the previous evening when I was invited onto his show "Tarrin it up", (link below).

To continue reading and for further links, please go to rts.earth HERE:
http://www.rts.earth/2017/05/transpicuous-views-may-14-2017-with-dr-tarrin-lupo/