Jesus' father 'not human' ?

[Sueanne47]

When Israeli scientists tested the 2000 year old dried blood, & analyising the DNA, they found the mother had 23 chromosomes and the father had 1.

The dried blood and the Arc of the Covenant were discovered simultaneously, Jesus the Messiah is the genetic offspring of the God of Israel, his father is proven to be non-human. The precious blood of Jesus spilled onto the mercy seat of the Arc. During the crucifixion, is evidence of the skillful blood ritual enacted by the father Yahuveh, to dissolve the negative Karma in order to save us from rebirth into the hell realms.

I know its difficult to get your head around this, but see it to the end and let me know what you think..!

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[AriG]

Sueanne,

This sounds really interesting, but I cannot get through the video. Too much propaganda. Can you tell us at what point in the video the claim is substantiated?

I did look up chromosome counts for all species. The only life form that i could find that has only one chromosome is a jack juniper ant. Guessing it is more likely that sperm from a donor was genetically modified to only pass on the sex chromosome of the donor (if that Jesus story is even true). Wonder if they have jack juniper ants at Golgatha. (meaning absolutely no disrespect to believers.. I am just not one).

[Bill Ryan]

Sueanne,

This sounds really interesting, but I cannot get through the video. Too much propaganda.

Yep. I watched the part where the guy was recounting how he found 'The Ark of the Covenant'. I have to say, it would make any trained archeologist rotate in his grave (or in his tent, or his office chair). Talk about irresponsible. :facepalm:

I don't know what he found (and neither do any of us, based on the skimpy testimony), but I'd not trust him to carefully dig up the ground in my garden around a buried drainpipe. :)

[Baby Steps]

Hi,
Forgive me Suanne, you are going to get tired of me!

For the sake of this video I am going to categorise people into 4 sections
- Proper Christians who are likely to buy whatever story the Church pumps out
- Atheists, and victims of other Religions who will reject this info
- Conspiracy types who think religions are manipulation by a sinister force
- People who think there may be some merit to parts of our religions, (universal truths),but it is also spiked with lies from either Humans or something else.

We have here a story that fits with the conventional New Testament story and much of the previous prophecies. The Ark has finally been found, and it is spattered with the blood of a human who only carries the Genetic material of his mother, plus a mystery Y chromosome. This is not a clone, and is impossible according to our primitive genetic science. It does not explain why that Y chromosome is deemed ‘non human’. From here forward the most likely progression is that this story will remain another you tube curiosity, and will gently push some Christians into this ‘End-Times’ construct that we are hearing, but will not have any great effect in itself.

What we need to remember about the Christian institutions ,as they stand, is that they are a great impediment to human progress and are in fact criminal.
1. The idea that ‘God’ controls everything and we need to wait for him to come and sort out our collapsing civilisation is very dangerous for us , because it dis-empowers us by discouraging us from trying to improve matters here ourselves. This is what we desperately need.
2. The idea that some evil force external to us, that we have no power to resist, is ruining our reality, but – don’t worry – the Messiah/Christ/Mahdi/Kalki etc is shortly coming back to confront this evil and save us – is EVEN MORE DIS-EMPOWERING. Humans are destroying our civilisation now and they urgently need to be resisted in a human way by us without further delay!
3. The institutions themselves are criminal. We have the Catholic church that has built up wealth by dealing with drugs/money laundering/cosa nostra etc. It is the home of rampant Paedophilia and is GUILTY of dodging the responsibility. Guilty priests are moved, victims silenced, and the institution continues as the abuse does. The INSTITUTION is guilty because it is protecting those of its number who are guilty of heinous crimes.
4. The idea that ‘God’ would demand the death of his only Son as a trade to get Humans off the hook for their sins is silly. The real God does not judge or punish, nor require anything from us. I believe that this awful idea was invented in the third century as a way of answering those who asked of the Church ‘If Jesus is God, why would he, or his dad, allow himself to be killed, if he is all-powerful?’ The answer helped the Church both to deify Jesus and to protect Rome from the blame for killing him.

So my problem with this video’s information is not that it is some irrelevant story that will have little impact- or that it is a psi-op. My problem is THAT IT MIGHT BE TRUE AND IT MAY PRESENT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR INCUMBENT ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS TO CONTINUE AND RE-ENFORCE THE DIS-EMPOWERING PSI-OP.

Most people are turning away from Religions or the stricter versions. This story has the power, if they embrace it, to re-invigorate these odious institutions.

So if you are more conspiracy minded you might suspect that this true story is the long planned reveal of a psi-op planned for thousands of years. It is a way for our flagging religions to regain influence, and with it, the power of the ‘Christ returning’ and ‘end times’ psi ops. I think these two are the key dark-side components.

Again it is now that we are living through an era where, having had the scientific enlightenment and attendant economic & technological boom, we are seeing collapse & chaos everywhere. Manipulated wars and technologically created diseases and environmental catastrophes such as Fukushima. We humans are in a lot of trouble. As this process, plus tyranny, increases we become more and more vulnerable to unhealthy , non-terrestrial dark-side influence. (including AI)

For more understanding of colonisation, just look at what Humans have done to weaker societies on Earth in order to colonise them. Corrupt the establishment (British bought off the Maharajahs), disease (example- drop smallpox contaminated blankets to grateful Amazonians), destroy the spirituality (look up how the Romans destroyed the druidic centre of Anglesey as a key strategy for colonising ALL of Celtic Europe), Genocide, etc etc.

In this case the colonisers are not destroying the spirituality, they instead are activating age-old myths embedded in our religions to establish a control agenda. It is end-times and the return of Christ. If my speculation is right, then the Church will endorse this genetic discovery. Outlandish as this may sound, once this is endorsed, it opens the possibility for the Church to talk about ET Genetic manipulation of Humans. Even the return of a physical Christ who’s genes can be scientifically confirmed.(alien- MASTER)

My gut feeling is that we must step away from dis-empowering ideas, anything that creates apathy towards our predicament, or the idea that it is too difficult to fix.We do not need more masters, we need NO MASTERS, we need cooperative co-creative renewal of our civilisation. If we cannot even do away with an institution that protects paedophiles we have much to do!

[Sueanne47]

Here is a link to Ron Wyatt's experience about finding the Ark in Jerusalem:

http://www.covenantkeepers.co.uk/

[greybeard]

Sueanne,

This sounds really interesting, but I cannot get through the video. Too much propaganda.

Yep. I watched the part where the guy was recounting how he found 'The Ark of the Covenant'. I have to say, it would make any trained archeologist rotate in his grave (or in his tent, or his office chair). Talk about irresponsible. :facepalm:

I don't know what he found (and neither do any of us, based on the skimpy testimony), but I'd not trust him to carefully dig up the ground in my garden around a buried drainpipe. :)

You gave me the laugh of the day Bill

Thanks
Chris

[wondering]

Baby Steps, Thank you for the clarity of your response.👏👏👏 Very well said, IMO! ✌ ❤️, Diane (aka wondering)!

[Sueanne47]

For the sake of this video I am going to categorise people into 4 sections
- Proper Christians who are likely to buy whatever story the Church pumps out
- Atheists, and victims of other Religions who will reject this info
- Conspiracy types who think religions are manipulation by a sinister force
- People who think there may be some merit to parts of our religions, (universal truths),but it is also spiked with lies from either Humans or something else.

Hi Baby,

Everyone thought David Icke was one sandwich short of a picnic ~ time has moved on and now people are not so sure he is a nutcase about the reptillian thing.

*My* faith in God & Jesus is unwavering, yes...the Christians have probably been criminals, but they are not ALL criminals!!! I believe there is a GOOD SIDE, and all of us humans were put here to learn a huge lesson on school earth, now we must evolve and look after her....and give thanks to the Creator for our beautiful planet.

If we dont believe there is a good side then we are all completely F****D! the goodness in God & Jesus is NOT part of a psy ops or control agenda!

We will just have to agree to disagree my friend, as this world is just so full of athiest opinion, I know (especially on the forum) that I am in the minority here, but why should I be silenced? :)

Sue

[Atlas]

Yep. I watched the part where the guy was recounting how he found 'The Ark of the Covenant' [...]
Wyatt Museum Artifacts

Showing giant bones, petrified deck timber from Noah's ark and the cross hole plug from the crucifixion site. Also the stalactite that was at the entrance to the ark of the covenant chamber.

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Ark of the Covenant Actually Found in Ethiopia:
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[Baby Steps]

http://www.globalchurchofgod.co.uk/q-a-11720/



Were Joshua and Caleb, of all the Israelites who left Egypt, the only ones allowed to enter the Promised Land?
The Israelites endured many tests and trials after leaving Egypt and often fell short of what was required of them. One test was to have serious consequences that would affect so many. That was when the spies were sent into Canaan.

In Numbers 13:1-2, we read: “And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, ‘Send men to spy out the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the children of Israel; from each tribe of their fathers you shall send a man, every one a leader among them.’” In the following verses, Moses “sent them from the Wilderness of Paran according to the command of the Lord, all of the men who were heads of the children of Israel.” Their task was to spy out the land and to “see what the land is like: whether the people who dwell in it are strong or weak, few or many; whether the land they dwell in is good or bad; whether the cities they inhabit are like camps or strongholds; whether the land is rich or poor; and whether there are forests there or not” (verses 18-20).
At first sight, this passage might imply that all the tribes, including the tribe of Levi, send out one man from each tribe to spy out the land. However, note the following comments by Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible, regarding Numbers 13:2:
“Send thou men… of every tribe of their fathers shall ye send a man; excepting the tribe of Levi; the reason of which was because they were to have no inheritance in the land, [Deuteronomy] 10:9; but then, to make up the number twelve, the two sons of Joseph, Ephraim and Manasseh, are reckoned as two tribes…”
We will address Gill’s rationale, excluding the Levites from the spying mission and God’s subsequent punishment, throughout this Q&A. The outcome of this spying mission was that the spies returned after 40 days (verse 25) and reported on their findings. Of the twelve spies, ten reported that “the people who dwell in the land are strong; the cities are fortified and very large; moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there” (verse 28). In spite of Caleb wanting to go and take immediate possession, the spies (except for Joshua and Caleb) were fearful: “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we. And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, ‘The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.’”
Then we read, in Numbers 14:1-3, that all the congregation “lifted up their voices and cried, and the people wept that night. And all the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron, and the whole congregation said to them, ‘If only we had died in the land of Egypt! Or if only we had died in this wilderness! Would it not be better for us to return to Egypt?’” Joshua was, like Caleb, positive about what they could achieve with God’s help (verses 6-9), but the congregation “said to stone them with stones” (verse 10). Moses then interceded for the people (verses 11-19), and God said: “I have pardoned according to your word” (verse 20), but with the proviso that “they certainly shall not see the land of which I swore to their fathers, nor shall any of those who rejected Me see it” (verse 23).

[Baby Steps]

For the sake of this video I am going to categorise people into 4 sections
- Proper Christians who are likely to buy whatever story the Church pumps out
- Atheists, and victims of other Religions who will reject this info
- Conspiracy types who think religions are manipulation by a sinister force
- People who think there may be some merit to parts of our religions, (universal truths),but it is also spiked with lies from either Humans or something else.

Hi Baby,

Everyone thought David Icke was one sandwich short of a picnic ~ time has moved on and now people are not so sure he is a nutcase about the reptillian thing.

*My* faith in God & Jesus is unwavering, yes...the Christians have probably been criminals, but they are not ALL criminals!!! I believe there is a GOOD SIDE, and all of us humans were put here to learn a huge lesson on school earth, now we must evolve and look after her....and give thanks to the Creator for our beautiful planet.

If we dont believe there is a good side then we are all completely F****D! the goodness in God & Jesus is NOT part of a psy ops or control agenda!

We will just have to agree to disagree my friend, as this world is just so full of athiest opinion, I know (especially on the forum) that I am in the minority here, but why should I be silenced? :)

Sue

Hi,
I totally agree with you! I personally think a good part of the Jesus story is good-and true.He advocated peace and love & was killed for it!

[greybeard]

For the sake of this video I am going to categorise people into 4 sections
- Proper Christians who are likely to buy whatever story the Church pumps out
- Atheists, and victims of other Religions who will reject this info
- Conspiracy types who think religions are manipulation by a sinister force
- People who think there may be some merit to parts of our religions, (universal truths),but it is also spiked with lies from either Humans or something else.

Hi Baby,

Everyone thought David Icke was one sandwich short of a picnic ~ time has moved on and now people are not so sure he is a nutcase about the reptillian thing.

*My* faith in God & Jesus is unwavering, yes...the Christians have probably been criminals, but they are not ALL criminals!!! I believe there is a GOOD SIDE, and all of us humans were put here to learn a huge lesson on school earth, now we must evolve and look after her....and give thanks to the Creator for our beautiful planet.

If we dont believe there is a good side then we are all completely F****D! the goodness in God & Jesus is NOT part of a psy ops or control agenda!

We will just have to agree to disagree my friend, as this world is just so full of athiest opinion, I know (especially on the forum) that I am in the minority here, but why should I be silenced? :)

Sue

Sue ---Im not sure that you are in a minority.
I believe there was/is a Christ.

While the Bible has been "Modified" certain truth remain--I believe Jesus was Enlightened from sayings like"The Father and I are One" "Of my self I do nothing, it is the Father within" ---Krishna and Mystics said much the same thing.

Jesus taught forgiveness and love--I believe in that.
He would be horrified as to how his teaching have been distorted and there are thousands of different churches all claiming to be the only one that got his teaching correct.
All very divisive.

A Course in Miracles is said to be channeled from Jesus.
Well worth a look.

There is a thread on this here.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93445-What-God-wills-is-so&p=1099865&viewfull=1#post1099865

What God Wills is so is the title of the thread
Chris

[Matthew]

The King James bible (with slightly differing editions) is one of many sources about Jesus. Why be constrained to one source? Couple of thousand years later best we compare and contrast available sources to unravel what truth we can. The Quran has plenty about Mary and Jesus, as does the Nag Hammadi Library (http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html).

[Sueanne47]

Yes Yoyoyo, there's much studying to be done in all those sources, King James (and Francis bacon) altered the bible to a protestant version to control people and make them fear god though.

Atlas ~ Thanks very much for those videos! its strange why people pay homage to a shrine in Ethiopia...when they are not allowed to see it. Ron Wyatt said he shone his flashlight down a crack in the rock in Jerusalem, to see a chest of beaten gold ~ I believe him more I think..

[Atlas]

Fascinating story. Graham Hancock and David Wilcock as they discuss the lost Ark:
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[Sueanne47]

Here a Jewish man called Benny Hinn said the Ark was hidden and not lost because it would have been destroyed. The Arc is hidden in the caves in Temple Mount in Jerusalem. When Christ was crucified, the Roman soldier put his sword into his side, and the blood dripped down the crack to where the Ark was situated underneath.

NaMhoEaIVuE

The 10 commandments and the blood of Christ will be shown to the whole world as a witness. After the US replicate the papacy's behaviour throughout history (makes an image of the beast) and passes a mark of the beast law. A religious law which opposes God's 4th commandment. People will be faced with a choice before the 2nd coming of Jesus.

I just wanted to tell Babysteps also that satan copies everything in God's image, including Christianity & the church, this is why the church priests do nothing. But the real God is there...dont lose your faith!. :heart:

[Cidersomerset]

Has Someone moved it ?

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I have been watching/listening to a couple of vids by Brian Foerster and an ancient
alien vid about the possible cone head skeletons and alien intervention . I can
remember when I was still at school the theory that Jesus could have been a
ET , it made sense to me and explained the virgin birth better than the being
visited by the holy ghost. Which sounded like a metaphor for abduction and
impregnation to me.


http://www.newagegod.com/ENKImedia/createadama.jpg
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I cannot find the clip I was looking for, there is definitely something in Ethiopia,
and there was a ancient Jewish population that were possible refugees in the many
turmoil's in the Holy land. The keeper of the church where the relic is kept ,once
selected its a death sentence through some kind of radiation exposure and they
do not last very long, aprox 3 years Graham says in the doc below........


The Chapel where the aledged ark is kept.....

http://www.wnd.com/images/colmz1.jpg



Ark of the Covenant lecture by Graham Hancock - 2014

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Published on 18 Apr 2014

Graham Hancock, international bestseller author, whose unconventional ideas had
raised controversial questions about humanity's past. Here he's giving a lecture on
the Ark of Coventant, with a 10 minute introduction on underwater ruins near
Japan for some of his readers in India.

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Though it could be somewhere else ? or still in Jerusalem ?

The Ark of the Covenant | Power in a Box

https://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/the-ark-of-covenant-power-in-box.html

[Sueanne47]

Brilliant Cidersomerset!! ...well someone is telling fibbers, surely TPTB could take out one guy guarding the Ark, after all that is the only evidence there is a God. There was a rumour that Mugabe stole the Ark but I dont beleive that, so the one in Ethiopia might be a replica?

So if the Ark is brought out in the light of day and placed into the new 3rd temple because the freemasons require it to be there, and they take the lid off...... it could be the same freaky thing what happened in raiders of the lost Ark ~ all the baddies get toasted! :amen: :flame:

I found an interesting tidbit on the Great Pyramid:

The dimensions of the Ark are the same as the stone chest coffer in the king's chamber in the great pyramid. The Ark was the only object in the temple (when it was there), so was the coffer in the king's chamber. The pyramid was built & sealed before the days of Moses.

The Bible says:

"And there I will meet thee, and I will speak with thee from above the Ark-cover, from between the two Cherubim which are upon the Ark of the Testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel. Ex. 25:22

That was interesting about the megalith stone structure underwater in Japan..again a stone circle.

[Lifebringer]

You know Bill, with all the darkside's experimentation and revivving of Mammoths and genetic experimentation, "who's to stop them from manufacturing a "Jesus" from the blood with another woman of Mary's blood? Then they would control a God who wouldn't know the truth because of all the twists/lies inserted about the true story. There's only ONE over all, TMH Creator and Father of Christ, that will NOT let this be, and has never failed when the times were just as dire, to wipe them off the face of the earth or under it. I have faith that this will happen, otherwise, why a whole book of life experiences and prophecy that have come true through the Hebrew bible, when all other revisionist books can't claim the same? Where some tell of what happened, they never tell the reason connected to God/Creator as Bible tells before Eng, Rome, and Government with held all the books that made the book make sense. So the sifting or separating of "wheat from chafe" so necessary to find our Creator. They rush to try to control God's seed and if they get that blood alive and kicking, the powers multiplied through armies of the future, may prove to be a problem. Just tossing the issue further down the line of full thought in all directions for a solution, Bill. Just tossing it around a little. Anything is possible with "Christ?"

[Baby Steps]

You know Bill, with all the darkside's experimentation and revivving of Mammoths and genetic experimentation, "who's to stop them from manufacturing a "Jesus" from the blood with another woman of Mary's blood? Then they would control a God who wouldn't know the truth because of all the twists/lies inserted about the true story. There's only ONE over all, TMH Creator and Father of Christ, that will NOT let this be, and has never failed when the times were just as dire, to wipe them off the face of the earth or under it. I have faith that this will happen, otherwise, why a whole book of life experiences and prophecy that have come true through the Hebrew bible, when all other revisionist books can't claim the same? Where some tell of what happened, they never tell the reason connected to God/Creator as Bible tells before Eng, Rome, and Government with held all the books that made the book make sense. So the sifting or separating of "wheat from chafe" so necessary to find our Creator. They rush to try to control God's seed and if they get that blood alive and kicking, the powers multiplied through armies of the future, may prove to be a problem. Just tossing the issue further down the line of full thought in all directions for a solution, Bill. Just tossing it around a little. Anything is possible with "Christ?"

Not that God is a sadist, but I think he WILL permit the pollution and subversion of the message. He will not obviously step in shouting: 'GUYS! you got me all wrong!'. Why? because we are here in a soul growth scenario, where we individually and collectively grow by puzzling this stuff out ourselves.Guidance is given. We asked to come here and sort out the illusion because we wanted a challenge! Really its a role-play game....I don't buy into the wheat/chaff scenario. Timelines change and people go on different journeys, but telling people they might be 'chaff' is too fearful for me...

the blood thing is fascinating. A friend shaman living in France says that the whole 'Holy Grail/bloodline/Jesus had kids in France' stuff is true, and the Cathars were wiped out for carrying this knowledge.

God bless

[Sueanne47]

So people in France now, have their bloodline going back to Jesus? if anywhere, they would be in the Chartres Cathedral region where there are holy grail statues around it. Can you tell us more on that BabySteps?

[Baby Steps]

So people in France now, have their bloodline going back to Jesus? if anywhere, they would be in the Chartres Cathedral region where there are holy grail statues around it. Can you tell us more on that BabySteps?

I went to Chartres with my Sister in law, there is a spiral walkway on the floor with a constant flow of Christian mystics walking through it. It is a healing thing. For me it was clearing, there was an Angel entity with me, who cut away a lot of 'stuff' , then I got a visualisaton of torrents of clearing & healing water, then light and wisdom in the middle. Chartres is an old power point. There are secret groups of Christian mystics holding knowledge there. The Building is full of symbology, and the Dan Brown stories are built on this.

Among these mystics, it is believed that He came to the south of France with Mary & had kids there, and started a bloodline. I think he may have died in Kashmir, but had a spell in France. the energies in Chartres are gorgeous, my suster in law took the most awesome orb photos, these are not like a few grapefruit flying around, more like a room full of big detailed structures.Don't ask me for them, the reveals I think are by some kind of higher authority....

[Sueanne47]

We have passports, I'd like to have a trip to Chartres next year,..thank you BabySteps

[Flash]

The shroud of Turin findings I was not aware of

They did find traces of blood on the shroud. Interesting, although the research dates a bit and would be much more efficient with 2016 technologies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7adCIBhu-s

[Sueanne47]

Thank you Flash,

I saw a TV programme recently about the Shroud of Turin, they decided to take samples from another part of the cloth...and found the cloth and blood genuine of the time period.

[Flash]

You know, when I listened to that video about the shroud, it made sense that it could be from Jesus time. They say that in Spain, there is a face cloth that could have covered the face printed in the shroud and when they put both together, the shroud and the cloth, both correspond.

When we know history and the moving of people around, we know that the shroud may have been taken by Jesus mother and John. We also know that John took Mary with him and went to the Orient (which was gong towards constantinople/Byzance region, namely more precisely Ephesus, now in Turkey, therefore the epistle of Ephisus). There, in Ephesus, John gave many speeches in the Roman arena of the city. The first mini church was built there as well, there is still trace of the foundations of the building (not much larger than my house).

Furthermore, it is said that Mary died in a small house in the mountain about 20 km from Ephesus. She finished her life there.

In 1996, when I visited the site, John tombs was right outside Ephesus and very well kept for the Christians to visit.

When I returned in 2001, the Turkish government was changed pushed by the religious Muslims and the tomb was all unkept, starting to crumble with all kind of nature's growth around. I was flabberghasted. How come Muslim would not take care of the reliqs of great prophets even if from another religion - they would be screaming desecration and bad bad bad if we were to do the same to anything Muslim or doing cartoons of Muhamed. Moreso since Jesus IS in the Kuran and IS one of the prophet from the Kuran. Same they did with the Buddha statues in Afghanistan when they blew them up. Anyhow....

I am far from being religious at all, I think all religions are for brainwashing the masses and create divide.

But I am sure great beings existed, prophet of some kind, that worth our thorough respect (Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed, Krishna, modern ones as well, and some others more hidden or unknown).

To come back to the topic, it make sense that John or Mary would have taken the shroud with them (as a mother, I would have taken my daughter' shroud if it existed), then the shroud to be transfered where the first Christians were, namely Spain, Southern France and Italy.

By the way, I went to one of the last concert in the Roman Auditorium in Ephesus (after it was forbiden because the sound would pull the stones apart). This was incredible! a view on the whole biblical city at night, lit with torches, while hearing music as if you were in the orchestra itself. So John could go on stage and speak to the 2,000 people audience as if he was sitting beside them, the voices being so clear. A few centuries later Paul gave speeches there as well. Incredible archichectural and sound geniuses who built this.

Addition: they also found out that the probable way the shroud was imprinted with a face and body is through the soudden emission of light in many waves. Interesting ain't it!??

[Sueanne47]

Thank you Flash,

Yes I'm definately a believer, even more now that evidence from the past is coming forth, there was a crop circle of Jesus's face at the time the Shroud of Turin was made to be genuine. I now want to find out more about Mary & Joseph now that you mentioned Ephesus! :heart:

[Ines]

Sueanne,

This sounds really interesting, but I cannot get through the video. Too much propaganda. Can you tell us at what point in the video the claim is substantiated?

I did look up chromosome counts for all species. The only life form that i could find that has only one chromosome is a jack juniper ant. Guessing it is more likely that sperm from a donor was genetically modified to only pass on the sex chromosome of the donor (if that Jesus story is even true). Wonder if they have jack juniper ants at Golgatha. (meaning absolutely no disrespect to believers.. I am just not one).

You don´t have to be a "believer" to understand the importance of this Arqueologic discoveries, it isn´t even about religion or believe system. You can found what this is all about in this web site:

http://wyattmuseum.com/

[Enola]

I think Christianity is just an imperfect way to describe what is reality but the bible has great truths in it. The problem is that these kind of truths are hard on the ego. The ego doesn't want to humble itself before Christ, it wants to do its own thing, etc.

[Sueanne47]

Did Jesus die on the cross? more mystery..

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[Cidersomerset]

I'm listening to F2B interview below and aprox 1hr 54 mins in Jason mentions that
the Ark may have powered the great pyramid......

http://www.crystalinks.com/arkpyramid.gif

http://www.crystalinks.com/arkpyramid.jpg

by Gerry Cannon

The word ark comes from the Hebrew word aron, which means a chest, box. Its
dimensions are described by the bible as 2.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits (45
inches by 27 inches by 27 inches). Curiously, this is the exact volume of the stone
chest or porphyry coffer in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid in Egypt. This
coffer was the only object within the King's Chamber, as the Ark was the single
sacred object within the Holy of Holies, in the Temple. Also the laver, or basin, that
the priests used to wash their feet had the identical cubit dimensions.

In addition, the cubit dimensions of the inner chamber of the Temple, the Holy of
Holies, are precisely identical in size to the King's Chamber in the Pyramid and the
same volume as the molten sea of water on the Temple Mount as prepared by King
Solomon. Since the Pyramid was built and sealed long before the days of Moses,
when he built the Ark and the Holy of Holies, and had remained sealed for over
twenty-five centuries until the ninth century after Christ, there is no natural
explanation for the phenomenon of both structures having identical volume
measurements.


http://www.crystalinks.com/gparc.html



Ep. 531 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Jason Martell : Precession of Time

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
Jason Martell has been featured on Ancient Aliens since the very beginning...and he has
been a leading researcher of Precession and ancient technology for over 15 years...and
tonight we fully cover the subject...the cycles of time, light and dark periods of history
and where we are right now: heading into the Age of Aquarius.

[Sueanne47]

Yes, the coffer is the same dimensions as the Ark, I'm finding out though Cidersomerset that the further down the rabbit hole I go...the more I find all this egyptian/annunaki/hopi/stonehenge/elongated skulls/giants is all about the occult & paganism!!! all of it, the only part that is god is the book of revelations (most of which is coming true) and the book of Genesis.

What do you think..

[Cidersomerset]

Yes, the coffer is the same dimensions as the Ark, I'm finding out though Cidersomerset
that the further down the rabbit hole I go...the more I find all this egyptian/annunaki/hopi/stonehenge/
elongated skulls/giants is all about the occult & paganism!!! all of it, the only part that is god is the book
of revelations (most of which is coming true) and the book of Genesis.

What do you think..

That's a complicated question and is an on going project...LOL

Synchronicity I think there's a thread about that..LOL There are several ways to
answer the question one of which is I tend to believe we are all gods connected to
source/astral plane by our greater non -physical self and this experience is a reality
we created to experience the physical realm and the senses ,and that goes into a
larger meme.

Then there is the question of ET's egyptian/annunaki/hopi/Stonehenge etc. Jason
and Jimmy touch on that as well , but I just saw this article which is inspiring and
and is where the synchronicity comes in ,who wouldn't be looking down on creation
from up there ? almost heavenly like.

I don't think there is one simple answer....

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Harvard Goes to the Himalayas – Monks with ‘Superhuman’ Abilities Show Scientists What We Can All Do

By David on 28 September 2016 GMT What is Reality?

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Harvard Goes to the Himalayas – Monks with ‘Superhuman’ Abilities Show Scientists What We Can All Do

By Waking Times Media 

Posted on September 26, 2016

The existence of advanced powers is readily acknowledged; in fact, Buddha
expected his disciples to be able to attain these abilities, but also to not become
distracted by them.

Arjun Walia, Collective-Evolution
Waking Times Media

‘It’s fascinating to consider just how many ancient teachings tell us that humans
have the capacity to gain extraordinary powers through various techniques. Some
of these techniques, known as siddhis in the yoga tradition (from the Sanskrit,
meaning “perfection”), include meditation, static dancing, drumming, praying,
fasting, psychedelics, and more.

In Buddhism, for example, the existence of advanced powers is readily
acknowledged; in fact, Buddha expected his disciples to be able to attain these
abilities, but also to not become distracted by them.’

Read more: Harvard Goes to the Himalayas – Monks with ‘Superhuman’ Abilities Show Scientists What We Can All Do

http://wakingtimesmedia.com/harvard-goes-himalayas-monks-superhuman-abilities-show-scientists-can/

[greybeard]

Nassim Haramein

The Ark of the Covenant - 1,2 - Full


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DEmom3TCg

[greybeard]

Nassim Haramein on Egyptology - Who Built The Pyramids? FULL

Who built the Pyramids? Nassim Haramein presents copious extensive evidence that the traditional view is false,

Was there a pre-ice age civilization?

This is a reupload of a series that was place on youtube in parts when the limit for videos was 10 minutes. I thought it would be good to collect it all together.


I cant find the specific video I want but these are interesting.
Nasssim in the one I wanted gave the measurements of the storage place of the Ark in Pyramids.

Chris




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N7eARbAJmA

[Cidersomerset]

Nassim Haramein on Egyptology - Who Built The Pyramids? FULL

Thats maybe what Jason and Jimmy were referencing as Jason says in the
F2B interview ..." no wonder the Pharaoh was desperate to stop Moses ".
para phrasing him.Not the escaping jew's but what thay had carried off with
them " .....


From the most recent Moses movie....Hollywood interpretation of history , but gives a feel.......
t-8YsulfxVI

[Sueanne47]

I'm trying to figure out what the zionists are up to today with this Ark. Now, its a holy object with 'alleged' magic powers.....so why would the zionists want to build the 3rd temple now (and it looks like they are, they have appointed a high priest) and place this Ark in this new temple ~ knowing it is the covenent from god?

There is newly translated text called 'treatise' of the vessels (Massekhet Kelim), it says "treasures were concealed by a number of Levites & Prophets, some of them hidden in various locations in Israel and Babylonia, (USA?) others given to angels Shamshiel, Michael, Gabriel, and perhaps Sariel". The text leaves the exact location of the Ark unclear and states that it and other treasures shall not be revealed until the day of the coming of the Messiah.

Livescience link: (many ads!) http://www.livescience.com/42398-ark-of-covenant-fate-revealed-in-hebrew-text.html

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This bas relief image showing the Ark being carried, is from the Auch Cathedral in France.

So this is why I recently started a thread under 'new world order' Prince William ~ the antichrist? because it looks very likely that he is the 'false messiah' to bring in the new world order upon the world and make people 'obey' just like king Solomon did. King Soloman turned from God to idolatry & witchcraft/occult, and married pagan wives, he wrote the ancient book of Goetia about witchcraft, and he tortured the demon spirits and forced them to serve Soloman.

Prince William's geneology from the spencer family is deeply illuminati (rothchilds & goldsmith) his birth was induced to coincide with the summer solstice and pagan rituals went on a long time for this. Princess Diana was used deliberatly as a broodmare to marry charles.. to bring in this bloodline.

Something to think about.....

Link to thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93635-Prince-William-the-antichrist&p=1102240&viewfull=1#post1102240

[bluestflame]

91F_EseiPkU lots of interesting info

[Sueanne47]

Thank you Bluestflame, the video was fascinating, but a tiny bit complicated! I've got stellarium software, so I'd be interested to see on sept 23rd 2017 the alignment that he's speaking about. What does the 12th revelation mean by feast of trumpets?

[Atlas]

[...] Jesus the Messiah [..]
Jesus [...] was [...] a carpenter in the era before power tools. Think of that! [...] “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’”

Source: Jesus was a man's man. (http://philleng.blogspot.com/2011/03/jesus-was-mans-man.html)

[Bluegreen]

Some research indicates that the original word associated with Jesus' job, tekton, meant 'craftsman who works with hard materials'. Jesus himself never referred to woodworking but did, however, reveal a knowledge of stonework on more than one occasion, which would suggest that he was by profession, wait for it, a mason ...

Edit: Thank you for correcting my language Sueanne
It is, after all, Greek to me
;)

[Sueanne47]

When you said that Bluegreen, I found this after a search, apparently his father Joseph was a builder :

http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/4896/what-evidence-is-there-that-jesus-was-a-carpenter