Bottled water...is it really better than tap water??

[Spellbound]

I've been buying a lot of bottled water lately, for myself and for my cats, when it struck me to look at the actual label to see fluoride listed (Nestle Pure Spring). I thought that was rather odd, as it was my understanding that bottled water was better than tap water in that it should not contain fluoride. Is there any benefit to buying bottled water if actually does contain fluoride?? Is all bottled water created equal?? Water is water, no??

Dave - Toronto

[greybeard]

My thought is that you would be better buying and installing a quality water filter to the tap.
It would eventually work out cheaper than buying bottled water which is relatively dead by the time you get it.

Chris

[PurpleLama]

The best part about bottled water, you can't even taste the dissolved plastics in it!

After getting off the bottled water (we use a Berkey at my house) bottled water does taste like plastic, and such is at least as bad for you as any amount of fluoride or any other chemical contaminants. I can't even drink the (drip pot) coffee at work anymore for the plastic taste. We try to keep it all glass and stainless steel.

[WhiteLove]

This is a duplication of a post I made in a different thread.

About a year ago I was suddenly noticing unexpected overall health improvements. This caught my interest because I had not actively done anything special I thought, in fact I thought I was living not that healthy and should have been at a much worse overall health condition. So what had happened?

After having ruled out a number of reasons I finally traced this back to the fact that I had started drinking Evian bottled water. This water is so clean that even if you would live totally off the grid and live as naturally as possible out in the woods, you will drink less clean, less healthy water. In the French Alps, rain and melting snow filters through glacial sand and clay for more than 15 years and surges upward, emerging from the Cachat Spring in the town of Evian-Les-Bains in France before reaching Evian's aquifer. The company taps the aquifer and funnels the water directly into bottles without touching or altering it in anyway. It has an excellent pH at 7.9 and is totally naturally purified without the use of chemicals. It also contains minerals, including sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium, bicarbonates, and more.

15 years of natural water purification is good for you...

[Creedence]

Evian is naive backwards.

[Lifebringer]

They've found out that awakened people don't drink their water without distilling it first. Lots and lots of people are waking up to that fact since Flint. Crystal Spring Water is what the NOI are selling they have a very large spring of water and bottle it to help pay for the land and farms that help feed our people on the streets and print their newspapers the Final Call. There was a 3 year plan back in the 90's where anyone can contribute to make a financial strike against not owning land or being able to build schools with good teachers. To teach what others won't teach in school. True history from a biblical and historical facts.
WE have nothing since reconstruction and NOI is the only African American success thus far, where all contribute to the many to ease the pain of poverty. They grow organic and "all natural products" for decades. ONe thing I can say for Farrakhan is he is a visionary and has been awake and aware since early 80's. Like Bill leading here, Farrakhan leads our people who want to live in peace, but are NOT pushovers. NOI accepts all the Christians because they use both books for the Hebrew populations of slavery here in America. Before it was death to read about us in the bible, NOT anymore. WE live it breathe it, love it and welcome it. Truth is the true spring of life, but the body must be cleansed and pure earth water is the best.

[Lifebringer]

Our waters have been poisoned since the beginning of the industrial age over hundred years ago. Many have become sick and die, not knowing the toxicity of the metals and chemicals that caused cancer. But this generation that must soon take the lead/reigns, stay on top of everything. The nerds I mean and most of them are so good of heart, and no ill intent, just the "need" to bring the solution to solve the world's, man's problems. The old codgers of greed over life, are standing in the way.

[delfine]

Bottled water (plastic bottles) contains BPA which is a known carcinogen. + it´s expensive. So I´ll recommend getting a water distiller. Water, as you probably know, has memory, and a way to delete this memory is by distillation. The memory of tap-water is not something you´d want to retain. After distillation, run it through a vortexer, which gives life and energy to the water:
https://www.panosun.org/products.php?cat=15

[NeedleThreader]

Poland Springs is one of the last good ones.

[Mike Gorman]

Bottled water is largely a scam - it is in fact tap water which has been passed through a reverse osmosis filter-which alas does not remove fluoride. Some brands are genuine spring water, but these often contain a lot of sodium, potassium and other minerals which could be harmful to folks on diets for their health-that Italian one from the Alps is nice. Water, it seems it is actually very hard to get just plain, 100% H20 without additives these days- which is my biggest beef concerning fluoride, the basic right to have pure drinking water!

[RunningDeer]

If money is tight a good alternative is the Sport Berkey Water Bottle (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/sport-berkey.html). Besides money, the sports bottle saves shopping time and lugging the bottles home.

I also use the Berkey (http://www.berkeyfilters.com) system with the additional fluoride filters (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/fluoride.html). To prepare the filters, I purchased the primer (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/black-berkey-primer.html).

Berkey Fluoride Water Filter (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/fluoride.html) effectively reduces the following water contaminants
• Fluoride
• Pre-oxidized Arsenic III and Arsenic V
• MTBE
• Other heavy metal ions

The Black Berkey Filter (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/black-berkey.html) Elements have been tested and confirmed to remove or greatly reduce the contaminants:

Viruses:  99.999% reduction
 MS2 - Fr Coliphage
*Exceeds purification standards
 
Pathogenic Bacteria, Parasites, and Cysts:  Removed to non-detectable levels - 100% reduction E. coli, Klebsiella terrigena, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Giardia, Cryptosporidium
*Exceeds purification standards
 
Trihalomethanes:   Removed to below detectable limits - 99.99999% reduction
Bromodichloromethane, Bromofore, Chloroform, Dibromochloromethane 
 
Inorganic Minerals:  Removed to non-detectable levels - 99.9999999% reduction
Chlorine
 
Heavy Metals:  Greater than 95% reduction
Lead, Mercury, Aluminum, Cadmium, Chromium, Copper
 
Volatile Organic Compounds:  Removed to below detectable limits - 99.9999999% reduction

 Alachlor, Atrazine, Benzene, Carbofuran, Carbon Tetrachloride, Chlorine, Chlorobenzene, Chloroform, 2 4-D, DBCP, p-Dichlorobenzene, o-Dichlorobenzene, 1 1-Dichloroethane 1 2-Dichlorpethane, 1 1-Dichloroethylene, Cis-1 2-Dichloroethyiene Trans-1 2-Dichloroethylene, 1 2-Dichloropropane Cis-l 3-Dichloropropylene, Dinoseb, Endrin, Ethylbenzene Ethylene Dibromide (EDB), Heptachlor, Heptachlor Epoxide Hexachlorobutodlene, Hexachloro-, Cyclopentadlene, Lindane Methoxychlor, MTBE, Pentachlorophenol, Simazine, Styrene 1,1,2,2-Tetrachloroethane, Tetrachloroethylene, Toluene 2,4,5-TP (Silvex), 1 2 4-trichlorobenzene, 1 1 1-trichloroethane 1 1 2-trichloroethane, Trichloroethylene, o-Xylene, m-Xylene

[6pounder]

in israel there arent much bottled watter companies so i just look for those that do not contain floride in them. some does and some doesnt, just look on the label.

[Michi]

Fortunately over here in Germany you still can can swallow water when taking a shower without having to go to a hospital. :facepalm:
Certainly - the water isn't really completely clean either.
I am using myself em-pipes to handle the tap water and using a stainless steel pendulum (rotating clock-wise) to confirm whether or not the water has it's proper information.
A friend of mine uses additionally moringa seeds to clean up the water.
I even tested with that with bottled water from the local store and local water bottling company and found the water to be good.

[uzn]

Take it from the Roman Empire, they only drank Spring Water via their Aqueducts. They had 3 seperate Spring Water Systems going in to Rome. Whatever you drink check it if it has Chlor(id) od Flour(id) in it. If, don´t drink it !!! The Nazi´s figured out that Flour lowers the will and Chor makes sick. Go figure. If you force water out of the ground you have to do something to it because it is not ready and will turn bad really fast, usually they but in Carbon Oxyd and Chlor to make it last a bit longer. But it´s crappy water.
If you want to know more check Peter Ferreira, he devoted his whole life to water and salt and explains it wonderfully.
Here one lecture of him in german:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK4bUcqQ62U

The Romans had a Minister just for their Waterquality, one was named Fontanius after which Fountains are named.
Springwater rules, Mineral Water is close to toilet water ;)

And if you buy Spring Water buy it in Glassbottles and not Plastic, Plastic releases a whole bunch of Hormones in any fluid inside.

[pyrangello]

Its bad enough with the BPA's in the plastic but when the bottle is set in the sunlight it accelerates the decomposition of the plastic releasing more BPA, s in the liquid. I like pelligrino carbonated water and of course well water from a good well.

[Justplain]

Hi Spellbound, if your bottled water has fluoride it means its just tapwater (filtered or otherwise), cuz fluoridation doesnt happen to spring water.

We just installed a countertop metropure2 waterfilter system that filters fluoride, chlorine, lead,voc, etc. The water tastes noticeably better. This unit cost $110 cdn from gtawater (link below). The filters are good for a year.

Distillers (big horn brand) are available on amazon.ca starting at $130 cdn + tax. We got one but have yet to set it up.

Good luck!

http://www.gtawater.com/?gclid=COjj7_KgqM8CFYEkhgodc6wHfg

[DeDukshyn]

Hi Spellbound, if your bottled water has fluoride it means its just tapwater (filtered or otherwise), cuz fluoridation doesnt happen to spring water.
...


This isn't true. Fluoride is also a mineral that occurs naturally on earth and is quite often (but not always) found in artesian spring water in small amounts. Mind you this form of fluoride is not the same as what is added to drinking water, that stuff is actually industrial waste.

[Clear Light]

My thought is that you would be better buying and installing a quality water filter to the tap.
It would eventually work out cheaper than buying bottled water which is relatively dead by the time you get it.

Chris

Oh, yeah, I've been using Brita filters for years now :)

[RunningDeer]

Oh, yeah, I've been using Brita filters for years now :)

I purchased a bunch of Brita filters back when it was suggested to have preparation for food, water, medicines and such. Now I use the Berkey (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93555-Bottled-water...is-it-really-better-than-tap-water&p=1101238&viewfull=1#post1101238) filter system. I pour the contents from the Brita into the Berkey. Brita is limited in what it filters out, but it is certainly much better than water from the tap. I have an artisan well and still feel it's important to filter the water for drinking and cooking.

[greybeard]

I use Aquasana which fits directly to the cold water supply--the filters last at least 6 month.

The water here from the tap is fluoride free and may not need a filter.
Good Scottish Highland water.

Chris

[Spellbound]

My thought is that you would be better buying and installing a quality water filter to the tap.
It would eventually work out cheaper than buying bottled water which is relatively dead by the time you get it.

Chris

Oh, yeah, I've been using Brita filters for years now :)

I've been using a Brita for years as well, but it's a pain in the ass having to constantly refill.

Dave - Toronto

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
I have drank alot of different water in my life! It's interesting how everyone believes bottled water to be better than the water out of the tap! Over the years I have tried water filters, water distillers ( commercial units ) and water ionizers.
From my use I have come to believe if you want really good water that is the best for you it would be hands down...WATER IONIZED

You can put the machine to what water PH you would like and use the excess water that is acidic on your plants. ( there is two hoses coming out of the unit. One is alkaline and the other is acidic ) It fits easily to your kitchen sink tap and the filter lasts for upto 6000 litres of tap water.

After drinking distilled water for 20 years I came to the conclusion that there had to be something better and there was...IONIZED WATER.

I have no interest in water ionizers but know from testing the water of filtered, bottled, distilled and ionized that ionized is simply spot on.

When you test distilled water you would think it's alkaline but it's acidic even just after making it. You can put it through a carbon filter to get it more alkaline but it's not perfect.

Water ionized water makes you wonder why you drank any other type of water.

Here is a link of the ionizer I use but I am definitely not trying to advertise for any company or anything but information to anyone that wants to research water ionizers.

link:
http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/10070192/Water_Ionizer.html

Good luck and keep healthy.
chancy

[toppy]

I am using a Berkey system for the last 2 years and I am very, very pleased so I bought another one for my kids (moved away from home). Since then I can´t drink tap water or any other kind of water - even if I¨m living in Denmark and the water is supposed to be very good.

[Justplain]

Hi Spellbound, if your bottled water has fluoride it means its just tapwater (filtered or otherwise), cuz fluoridation doesnt happen to spring water.
...


This isn't true. Fluoride is also a mineral that occurs naturally on earth and is quite often (but not always) found in artesian spring water in small amounts...

Ok, Dedukshen, if you want to get technical about it, the fluoride levels in natural spring water, particularly that in bottled water should be negligible, as per:

“Thankfully, most fresh water supplies contain very low levels of fluoride. The average level of fluoride in unpolluted fresh water is less than 0.1 ppm, which is about 10 times less than the levels added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7 to 1.2 ppm). The frequent claim, therefore, that “nature thought of fluoridation first” does not withstand scrutiny.”

Source: http://fluoridealert.org/faq/

I knew a girl who once worked in a local water bottling facility, and she claimed that they often used tap water. I’m not sure that it was all the time, but frequently when the regular water supply didnt provide enough. That’s where i suspect Spellbound’s bottled water got its fluoride from.

[amor]

I lived on an Island where the water was supplied with chlorine which was only evident in the dry season when water table levels were low. On two occasions I was forced through thirst to purchase water in a plastic bottle. It was BITTER and undrinkable, probably from the plastic of the bottle. Anyway, who would drink water supplied by the eugenic manufacturers plotting your early death. Very similar are the
American manufacturing plants that deliberately pour their poisonous runoff into rivers from which the towns downstream get their water. Force Rockefeller to drink it.

[enigma3]

The only plastic bottled water that does not contain BPA's or BPB's is Fiji. I only drink that on trips. Glass bottles are fine. Perrier or Evian, Evian is the best as others have pointed out.
At home I installed a whole house filter fed from the cold water line. That is filtered with a .5 micron filter good for 500 gallons. Your local hardware store will have them. Then the water goes to a separate faucet installed in the corner of the sink where the soap dispenser usually goes. Cooking water and drinking water come from that faucet. I change the filter twice a year. A .5 micron filter takes out almost all baddies. Lead, flouride, cryptosporidium (sp?) and lots more. And we get our water from one of the Finger Lakes in Upstate NY. They put flouride and bromide in it. No thanks.
Flouride is a neurotoxin and a dumb downer. More than one study has shown that flouride depresses IQ by up to 5 points. The lithium sprayed into the air is designed to dumb us down too. I go inside when they are spraying.
One hint here. If you buy an air conditioner, only buy one that has recirculation on it. That way if they are spraying you don't pull in outside air full of lithium and aluminum particles.

[enigma3]

Forgot to add - Brita doesn't do a good job at all on water. Spellbound, use a better one. Lots to choose from now.
A brita filter is good for making cheap alcohol taste better. That's about it. Does a good job at that!

[ghostrider]

I went to trade school in 1991 for HVACR , been doing it now for almost 25 years , bottled water has a 72 hr shelf life, after that its no diffeent than water out of the tap... to keep bacteria at bay, there are different tempatures for fruits , veggies, beverages, milk, cheese, there are charts that give the exact temps for every product... water whether refrigerated or on the shelf, only keeps bacteria free for 72hrs, about three days ...

[RunningDeer]

I went to trade school in 1991 for HVACR , been doing it now for almost 25 years , bottled water has a 72 hr shelf life, after that its no diffeent than water out of the tap... to keep bacteria at bay, there are different tempatures for fruits , veggies, beverages, milk, cheese, there are charts that give the exact temps for every product... water whether refrigerated or on the shelf, only keeps bacteria free for 72hrs, about three days ...

That fits with my experience. Back in the 1980’s, my sister had a Polar Springs cooler in her home. She insisted it was pure water and there was a quick turn over in the stock sold. Yet, whenever I drank it, the roof of my mouth got itchy and I’d experience asthmatic breathing. It was the same symptoms I’d get from mold that I was allergic to with certain foods and places like old, damp cellars.

[Mike]

Slighlty ionized and properly ph balanced water is just as important as filtering out contaminants imo. Chancy spelled it all out pretty well.

And even the bottled water that claims alkaline ph levels isnt always telling the truth. Ive tested a few with ph strips and they were either neutral or acidic. So the best way to go is home filtered.

[DeDukshyn]

Hi Spellbound, if your bottled water has fluoride it means its just tapwater (filtered or otherwise), cuz fluoridation doesnt happen to spring water.
...


This isn't true. Fluoride is also a mineral that occurs naturally on earth and is quite often (but not always) found in artesian spring water in small amounts...

Ok, Dedukshen, if you want to get technical about it, the fluoride levels in natural spring water, particularly that in bottled water should be negligible, as per:

“Thankfully, most fresh water supplies contain very low levels of fluoride. The average level of fluoride in unpolluted fresh water is less than 0.1 ppm, which is about 10 times less than the levels added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7 to 1.2 ppm). The frequent claim, therefore, that “nature thought of fluoridation first” does not withstand scrutiny.”

Source: http://fluoridealert.org/faq/

I knew a girl who once worked in a local water bottling facility, and she claimed that they often used tap water. I’m not sure that it was all the time, but frequently when the regular water supply didnt provide enough. That’s where i suspect Spellbound’s bottled water got its fluoride from.

Sure. My point was just about your statement "if it has fluoride it is tap water ..." - I was just clarifying that that statement was false. Almost all natural spring water will have some amounts of fluoride as well - so that is not an indicator of whether it is tap water or not. That was my clarification and indication - nothing more.

[ghostrider]

At room tempature after three days i would not drink bottled water ... i have not had bottled water in at least ten years ... i think there is tiny things in natural water that our bodies need , and manufactured water companies take those things out of water thinking they are helping, when the human body needs a little bit to force the immune system to always be on guard ... just like old days when doctors would tell mothers let your child go play in the dirt , nature does the rest ...

[Althena]

There's no fluoride in the tap water down here, but I've noticed they've started adding bleach after the volcano erupted in 2011, damn shame because the pumice rock that fell in the lakes was deemed unharmful.

And for me there's nothing like glass to store water.

[EFO]

I have this kind of fountain on my yard.I bought the house together with it.It's an old on with walls of stone have a depth of 15 meters (45 feet) with 10 meters (30 feet) below the surface waters in the region and on her bottom I have three springs.It have the most tasteful water I ever tasted excepting the Romanians mountains water which is more sweet and colder than mine. :) I avoid as much as possible any kind of tap or bottled water. :)
http://a1.ro/uploads/modules/news/0/2016/5/25/493226/146415703944f01ab0.jpg

[DeDukshyn]

At room tempature after three days i would not drink bottled water ...

Consider that probably all bottled water, since it requires no temperature control, has sat in a hot warehouse, transport crate, or trailer and has been exposed to 30C + temperatures for extended times inside their plastic bottles before it even gets to the store shelves. This thought alone turns me right off bottled water.

[ghostrider]

Look at the money they make on something mother nature gives us in abundance for free, there is more water than land ...

[raff]

I purchased a water distiller from H2o labs and once I cleaned the kettle completely no calcium deposit has returned using the distilled water. None whatsoever (I used to use a britta filter but that does very little and still leaves a lot of calcium build up in your kettle.)
Once I distill the water I put it in glass jars and stick them out in the sun to energize. Distillation as far as I'm aware is the only process that removes fluoride and any and all impurities. Taste is good as well.

[ThePythonicCow]

Once I distill the water I put it in glass jars and stick them out in the sun to energize. Distillation as far as I'm aware is the only process that removes fluoride and any and all impurities. Taste is good as well.
I would not expect distillation to remove certain dissolved volatile gases in the water, for they too will boil off with the water, and condense into the collection jar. For such gases, some sort of carbon filter (such as the Brita, or many other variants) works well.

[Czarek]

I highly encourage you all my avalon friends to locate your local source of free spring water. Here is a link to help you find one

http://www.findaspring.com/

My time dedicated into the water issue has lead me to the flowing conclusion; spring water is the best source of water. It makes very little difference if you bottle that spring water. Yes, given the opportunity to have it bottled in glass bottle is desirable, but if you have a body that is well mineralized and nourished, polluting metals will leave with time. You don't have to do anything. The body will do it on its own given proper nutrition.
Give it a try.

[LoneWolf76]

I've been buying a lot of bottled water lately, for myself and for my cats, when it struck me to look at the actual label to see fluoride listed (Nestle Pure Spring).

Dave - Toronto

Dave, do you think paying Nestle for water is a good idea? Even if it was the most pure water on Earth?

Since I became aware of what kind of company Nestle is, and it's history of evil deeds, I have stopped buying their products - full stop. Not easy, when you LOVE Milkybar, Caramac, condensed milk, and so many other of their goodies, but we gotta stop feeding the monster.

Have a closer look at Nestle - and this is only just what they're doing now...

http://theantimedia.org/nestle-pays-only-524-to-exract-27000000-gallons-of-california-drinking-water/


http://www.bottledlifefilm.com/index.php/the-story.html


Change starts with each one of us individually.



Bottled water (plastic bottles) contains BPA which is a known carcinogen. + it´s expensive. So I´ll recommend getting a water distiller. Water, as you probably know, has memory, and a way to delete this memory is by distillation.


As far as I can recall, even BPA-free plastics contain endocrine disrupters, so basically, drinking from ANY plastic bottle is bad for you. (Don't have links to back that up right now). I'm not perfect, and I still drink from plastic occasionally, but trying to change - requires some organisation and preparation.




I purchased a water distiller from H2o labs and once I cleaned the kettle completely no calcium deposit has returned using the distilled water. None whatsoever (I used to use a britta filter but that does very little and still leaves a lot of calcium build up in your kettle.)





Once I distill the water I put it in glass jars and stick them out in the sun to energize. Distillation as far as I'm aware is the only process that removes fluoride and any and all impurities. Taste is good as well.
I would not expect distillation to remove certain dissolved volatile gases in the water, for they too will boil off with the water, and condense into the collection jar. For such gases, some sort of carbon filter (such as the Brita, or many other variants) works well.


Thanks for the product review raff! Planning on getting one of those next month as part of my lifestyle upgrade (getting my **** together).

Paul, as far as I am aware, these particular distillers come with carbon filters.




After drinking distilled water for 20 years I came to the conclusion that there had to be something better and there was...IONIZED WATER.

...

When you test distilled water you would think it's alkaline but it's acidic even just after making it. You can put it through a carbon filter to get it more alkaline but it's not perfect.

Water ionized water makes you wonder why you drank any other type of water.

chancy


Well that is news to me. Thanks for the info chancy, always something new to learn. I'll have to look into what else can be done after removing impurities.
I am aware of other things like structured water, ionisation etc, but don't know much about them.

I believe the Spooky2 (http://www.spooky2.com/) can also have a role to play here, as the functionality of this system is expanding exponentially it seems.

That's the next lifestyle upgrade!

- LoneWolf

[East Sun]

First avoid tap water, then plastic bottles. invest in a water purifier filter. if you buy bottled water get glass bottles
and have it tested.

that's my advice in a nutshell.

[ThePythonicCow]

Once I distill the water I put it in glass jars and stick them out in the sun to energize. Distillation as far as I'm aware is the only process that removes fluoride and any and all impurities. Taste is good as well.
I would not expect distillation to remove certain dissolved volatile gases in the water, for they too will boil off with the water, and condense into the collection jar. For such gases, some sort of carbon filter (such as the Brita, or many other variants) works well.


Thanks for the product review raff! Planning on getting one of those next month as part of my lifestyle upgrade (getting my **** together).

Paul, as far as I am aware, these particular distillers come with carbon filters.
My Megahome distiller came with a carbon filter, yes.

But it was a dinky little envelope of carbon that sat in the output spout. I doubt the water going over the carbon was exposed to enough carbon to take out much of the volatile compounds.

There are a variety of convenient counter top or refrigerator carbon filters, such as Brita, PUR, or Zero, many available for a fairly modest cost, that will do quite a bit better job of filtering the volatiles.

[Carmody]

First avoid tap water, then plastic bottles. invest in a water purifier filter. if you buy bottled water get glass bottles
and have it tested.

that's my advice in a nutshell.


It's what I've been drinking for about 11 years now:

https://www.ocado.com/productImages/162/16260011_0_640x640.jpg?identifier=13109c434fabd387912ca5ec3adf90db

No booze, no beer, just glass bottled water... as an evening treat.

[Andrew]

First avoid tap water, then plastic bottles. invest in a water purifier filter. if you buy bottled water get glass bottles
and have it tested.

that's my advice in a nutshell.


It's what I've been drinking for about 11 years now:

https://www.ocado.com/productImages/162/16260011_0_640x640.jpg?identifier=13109c434fabd387912ca5ec3adf90db

No booze, no beer, just glass bottled water... as an evening treat.

I thought I'd try this brand of water once then read the ingredients and so put it back.

Country Italy
Source San Pellegrino Terme
Type Sparkling
pH 7.6
Calcium (Ca) 160
Chloride (Cl−) 47
Bicarbonate (HCO3) 238.0
Fluoride (Fl) 0.44
Lithium (Li) 0.2
Magnesium (Mg) 53
Nitrate (NO3) 0.68
Potassium (K) 2.5
Silica (SiO2) 7.5
Sodium (Na) 32
Strontium (Sr2) 3.2
Sulfates (SO4) 430

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pellegrino

[BMJ]

Hi Spellbound,
Berkey system filters all impurties and flouride from water we use it for cooking and drinking, coffee and tea taste so much better.

One clay and one carbon filter lasts about a year and half for us and costs about $80.00AUD. Initial purchase of large jug was about $300.00AUD we have been using it for about 4 years at least.

Berkey
Link: http://www.berkeyshop.com/index.php?main_page=index

Link: https://www.aussieberkeyshop.com.au/

[LoneWolf76]

Oh, and to my dismay, I recently found out that Nestle own San Pellegrino also. Pity, I liked that stuff.
Oh well, gotta stop feeding the monster.
We ALL gotta stop feeding the monster!

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Anyway, after I get another Spooky2, I'll get a distiller. Then I can start brewing Kombucha!