Capitol Hill overrides Obama's veto on 'Sue the Saudis' 9/11 bill

[Cidersomerset]

Capitol Hill overrides Obama's veto on 'Sue the Saudis' 9/11 bill

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
Congress overwhelmingly voted to override President Barack Obama’s veto of the bill that
would allow Americans to potentially sue Saudi Arabia for 9/11. This is the first veto override
during the Obama presidency.

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Different vid from one above.......

Congress overrides Obama’s JASTA veto

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
Congress overwhelmingly voted to override President Barack Obama’s veto of the
bill that would allow Americans to potentially sue Saudi Arabia for 9/11. This is the
first veto override during Obama’s presidency. RT America’s Manuel Rapalo reports
from the Capitol.

[Foxie Loxie]

About time!!! :blackwidow:

[Cidersomerset]

BREAKING: All Of Congress Votes To Override Obama’s Veto Of 9/11 Bill

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Published on 28 Sep 2016

Video Transcript:

CHAD PERGRAM: The Senate voted 97 to 1 early this afternoon. It went to the House,
the vote there was 348 to 77. You need a two-thirds vote in both bodies and they were
well above that threshold in both bodies here.

President Obama argued this decision to override could be dangerous.

OBAMA: So this is a dangerous precedent and its an example of why sometimes you have
to do what’s hard. And frankly, I wish Congress here had done what’s hard. I didn’t expect
it because if you’re perceived as voting against 9/11 families right before an election, not
surprisingly that’s a hard vote for people take. But it would have been the right thing to do.

This Democrat senator disagrees arguing they closed a loophole established by the courts.

RICHARD BLUMENTHAL: What we’ve done here is provide justice or at least the opportunity
for justice, a day in court to the victims of terrorism and we’ve closed a loophole that was
open by the courts, not by Congress in a decision made by the second circuit court of appeals
that said in effect that foreign state sponsors of terrorism can aid and abet killing Americans
in this country as long as they do it outside our borders. I think that kind of loophole should
be closed. I read the court decisions and the bill and I am satisfied it’s the right thing to do.

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Rep. Franks on Congress’ vote to override Obama’s 9/11 bill veto
Fox Business

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
Rep. Trent Franks, (R-AZ), on Congress’ vote to reject President Obama’s veto of the 9/11 bill.

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Obama: Congress veto override of 9/11 lawsuits bill 'a mistake'
19 minutes ago
From the section US & Canada

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US President Barack Obama has said Congress made a "mistake" by overriding his veto and
pushing through a bill that allows legal action against Saudi Arabia over the 9/11 attacks.
He said the bill would set a "dangerous precedent" for individuals around the world to sue
the US government.Wednesday's vote was the first time Mr Obama's veto power was overruled.

CIA Director John Brennan agreed that the bill carried "grave implications" for national security.

He added: "The downside is potentially huge."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37503224

[uzn]

There is a first time for everything Mr Obama. Go to your Saudi Friends and cry.
I hope the American People sue the Saudis to the bottom of their wallets.
I have been to a lot of Arab countries like Oman, VAE (Dubai, Katar and stuff) they were nice. Only Saudi Arabia is like a Hell on Earth. I was warned that as soon as I would enter there they would put me and my Girlfriend in prison. You are not allowed to drive a car with a women in there if you are not married to that woman!!!

[Cidersomerset]

The Most Embarrassing and Lowest Point Of Obama's Presidency JUST HAPPENED

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
In this video Luke Rudkowski covers the breaking news of how Congress over turned Barack Obama's
veto allowing victims family members to sue Saudi Arabia. This is major news with huge geo political
repercussions that we will cover on this channel, for more go to http://wearechange.org/donate/ and
invest in us so we can grow our operations being the media that we need in the world.

[Carmody]

This breaks the back of the TPP and TTIP agreements that corporate globalism has been trying to sneak in through the back door.

Those agreements would have allowed corporate control of the globe, with no local, national, or individual response.

This veto creates the pathway for that recourse to emerge, in the form of law and legal precedent. Which is how things work in the US justice system.

[Cidersomerset]

What’s Really Behind the Senate’s Override of Obama Veto of Saudi 9/11 Lawsuit Bill?

By David on 29 September 2016

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What’s Really Behind the Senate’s Override of Obama Veto of Saudi 9/11 Lawsuit Bill?

September 28, 2016 By 21wire



‘While the US media follows the red herring of this legislative drama which is Saudi Arabia,
the real point of this bill – and why President Obama is so vehemently opposing it – is going
completely unnoticed.

If any case was brought to court by 9/11 families to sue Saudi Arabia for ‘state-sponsored terror’
regarding the attacks in New York City on September 11, 2001, the court would find there is no
real forensic case proving Saudi involvement in this event. Other problems will crop up too. For
starters, at least 7 of alleged hijackers were actually found to be alive after their faces were
plastered on US TV screens after 9/11. ‘

Read more: What’s Really Behind the Senate’s Override of Obama Veto of Saudi 9/11 Lawsuit Bill?

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/28/whats-behind-the-senates-override-obamas-veto-on-saudi-911-lawsuit-bill/

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[Sueanne47]

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Promising change, progressionism is tyranny in sheep's clothing.

Dont be fooled by false promises.

[eagle0027]

.....how much longer can prending not to know go on???
This should get real interesting as to how the now upcoming forced mass awakening i hope will happen following the probable widespread release of info caused by this.
Rather unlikely obviously that the Saudies are forever going to be blamed for or pay victoms for this.Bush and his bunch will be running for ratholes.To bad they arent to be sent to that country for their punishment.

[Cidersomerset]

US Congress Overrides Obama Veto of 9/11 Bill

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
The U.S. Congress has voted to override President Barack Obama’s veto of a
bill that would allow lawsuits against Saudi Arabia for the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001. As VOA’s Michael Bowman reports, Wednesday’s tallies
in both houses of Congress were overwhelming and marked the first time an
Obama veto has been overturned.

[Dianamar]

So if that is passed the entire planet can sue the US for its actions ?

i get the feeling this is a diversion , the actual events of 9 eleven were not committed as its being reported.

[eagle0027]

Thats how i read it...but the u.s. plays by its own set of rules...as in printing endless amounts of money.....seems to be the only country that can do that...the big kid playing field tilt..do as i say not as i do

[eagle0027]

Should clarify that a bit Dianamar...with all of the prep required to take down those buildings and all of the people that knew beforehand logic would say it was u.s. based.
There are tons of books and video taking apart moment by moment what happened by very intellegent people of many fields of expertise.
Sacrificing a few thousand lives being a small price to pay for some to have far more control of inhabitants of this planet.
Small airports in northern b.c. now quite often have more people on the ground checking passangers than there are passengers as a result of 911...many more freedoms taken away.
Long overdue this was exposed to the people who still dont belive it.The ironic part being congress may well have tipped the first domino in that direction.

[Cidersomerset]

While the Hillary hearings are still going on , people are trying to bring these war
hawks to book....I know this is not connected to 9/11 and the Republicans have
there own agendas , but it is all part of the 'cess pool' politics by the elites
around the globe imo .....

Chaffetz, Gowdy, Issa, Jordan, Ratcliffe! Comey Says That Was "O S-H-I-T" Moment! Comey Rattled!

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Published on 28 Sep 2016
FBI Comey testifies again as a result of the recent document releases from the FBI.
He appears much more defensive than I have ever seen him before. Ratcliffe is
brutal. Issa catches Comey in a lie about the immunity agreements. Jordan,
Chaffetz, and Gowdy once again just can’t believe how an indictment wasn’t
warranted.

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People are trying for justice , if only the UN were so ethical.....


Lawsuits against the Neocons: Hillary's DNC, George W. Bush Et Al

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Published on 27 Sep 2016

The neocon war hawks have embroiled the United States in illegal wars of
aggression around the globe, and with the possibility of a Clinton presidency,
that reign of terror looks set to continue. But a series of lawsuits are challenging
the neocons in the courts and threatening to derail that agenda. This is the GRTV
Backgrounder on Global Research TV.

[Sierra]

If we can sue the Saudis, can we sue Mossad as well?

[Cidersomerset]

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If we can sue the Saudis, can we sue Mossad as well?

The Saudis are only a piece of the puzzle , there are traitors in
the US that have gotten away so far and many others who are
unaware of the parts they played thru compartmentalisation
and following orders. There is no way the towers could have
fallen and the whole neo - con agenda that has been played
out since 1990 without planning and execution by parties
in the highest powers of the mil ind corporate states of America.

Yes mossad and other agencies must have helped knowingly or
not . The only persons that definitely had nothing to do with it
are Bin Laden , Saddam , Gaddafi and millions of others who
are all dead , injured , maimed , homeless in war torn Afghanistan
and the Middle east due to the neo -con and others plan for the
new American century project that needed a 'new pearl harbour event'
ie. 9/11 to set all this motion.

This in itself may at least get the mainstream press to get their
heads out of their :censored: , and do some proper 9/11 research,
follow the money , political agendas and who profited out of
all this . It certainly was not any of the people the government
told us it was........I know you know this and I have many posts
and threads on the subject , just venting steam....LOL....:horn:

[Cidersomerset]

If Saudi has nothing to do with 9/11 and nothing to hide what's the problem ?

JASTA blowback: Saudis threaten to pull billions from US economy, could restrict airspace

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Published on 29 Sep 2016
Congress recently overturned President Obama’s veto of the Justice Against Sponsors of
Terrorism Act (JASTA), which would allow terrorism victims’ families to sue nations
responsible for the attacks. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia would likely be one of the countries
hardest hit by this legislation and it is threatening to sell more than $700 billion in US Treasury
securities and restrict use of their airspace as a result of JASTA. RT America’s Alexey Yaroshevsky
has the report.

[eagle0027]

They AREbeing blamed for it.possibly they did fund training pilots who thought they were going to be piloting planes but were used as scape goats.
Obama was obviously trying to avert lawsuits resulting from losses of people in countrys that were invaded and trashed for no provable good reason..like Iraq

[Selene]

If we can sue the Saudis, can we sue Mossad as well?

The precedent this law creates for Americans to sue sovereign governments for terrorism is indeed intriguing.

And dear old Israel sits right in the crosshairs now.

There are a number of well-informed people in high places who have a serious beef with Mossad – Israel’s official terrorist agency. And – even better – they’ve got the evidence. There’s at least one other American death in another case that can be directly linked to Mossad activity.

So Congress’s action represents a rather clever maneuver to bring Zionist terrorist activity to heel. No wonder Obama was forced (by his masters) to veto the bill.

Interesting times, these.

Cheers,

Selene

[Cidersomerset]

Related ~

World War III and the Gross Hypocrisy of Britain and America - David Icke Videocast

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Published on 30 Sep 2016

[ghostrider]

All smoke and mirrors, nothing will come of it ... too many are bribed easily... when the love of humanity is more than the love of money , progress will be made ...

[Cidersomerset]

This is what Obama and officials are really worried about....not the 9/11 victims.

The opening up of a huge....http://blog.b92.net/arhiva/files/images/can%20of%20worms.thumbnail.jpg


‘They kill people in their homes’: Pakistani to sue CIA for drone strike that killed relatives

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Published on 30 Sep 2016


A Pakistani journalist, who lost relatives in a U.S. drone strike, has won permission to
sue the people who ordered the attack - after almost seven years of struggle.

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[Fellow Aspirant]

Clearly, those among us who revile everything President Obama does - everything - have, like the members of Congress, fallen victim to the emotional campaign of the victims' families. So quick were they to gleefully take advantage of a perceived victory over "Obummer" that they failed to think through the ramifications of the veto. i.e. Americans overseas will now be subject to the laws of other countries, regardless of their 'immunity' status. They will be imprisoned for whatever charges foreign governments deem appropriate.

Now that emotions have cooled, the Republican leadership is having an "Oh sh*t" moment and are already back tracking on what they did.

Predictably, their go-to defence is to blame Obama for not stopping them. How's THAT for accepting personal responsibility for your mistakes? What part of the word "Veto" did they not understand?

So far, Obama has resisted the impulse to say :" I told you so." although he would have every right to do so. He has more class than that.

B.

[6pounder]

so i guess the veto was declared in the first place because every body knows that saudi arebia is not the one responsible for the 9/11.

[Cidersomerset]

The end of the cold war , 9/11 , the middle East , Afghanistan , North Korea ,
China , Ukraine , Russia are all linked and part of the neo -con continuation
of divide and rule , order out of chaos to stay in their eyes in control and
create a 'New World Order' also to benefit Israel , Saudi and other client
states in the disputed geo - political areas. This is mainly thru covert means
with Saudi money and Israeli intelligences and many more assets and allies
led by the Pentagon and the alphabet agencies, using NATO allies and assets
and most importantly al Qaeda ( the data base ) of freedom fighters/terrorists
complied during the Afghan wars against the soviets , Bosnia and other theatres.
This is an age old way of fighting wars usually termed mercenaries , which there
are still many some under the direct pay of the Pentagon and other sovereign states.

There is obviously a lot more detail in what I just wrote , but it leads into
this news item and shows Saudi and others links in the funding of rebels
and terrorist groups in Syria and also shows the type of thing that has
always gone on behind the scenes of these events. Thus to connect to
this thread Saudi probably had a large role with others funding the covert
side of the 9/11 inside job......Don't forget the neo - cons are all backing
Hillary to keep this agenda going.


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Kerry: ‘I argued for use of force in Syria, and I’ve lost the argument’

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Published on 1 Oct 2016


John Kerry frustrated with inability to use forces in Syria - leaked recording

[Fellow Aspirant]

so i guess the veto was declared in the first place because every body knows that saudi arebia is not the one responsible for the 9/11.

No, Obama vetoed the bill in order to protect American citizens from being sued or prosecuted by foreign interests. It has nothing to do with 911.

B.

[Cidersomerset]

Donald Trump: Only Explosives Could Have Brought Down World Trade Towers

By David on 2 October 2016 GMT


GLOBAL RESEARCH.....

Donald Trump: Only Explosives Could Have Brought Down World Trade Towers

Major media 'memory hole' regarding US presidential candidate's expert opinion on WTC
By James F. Tracy

Global Research, October 01, 2016

In an interview on September 11, 2001 swaggering-real estate mogul Donald Trump and
present Republican presidential candidate remarked that the World Trade Center Twin
Towers were likely brought down through controlled demolition.This prescient observation
has been intentionally overlooked by major media in the wake of 9/11′s fifteenth anniversary.

Many corporate news outlets chose instead to single out a off-handed comment by Trump
early on in the exchange where he momentarily ‘bragged’ that he ‘owned the tallest building’
in Manhattan next to the WTC– while failing to recognize and highlight his much more
important expert opinion a few moments later concerning the World Trade Center’s fate
alongside those of its inhabitants.

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read more.....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trump-only-explosives-could-have-brought-down-world-trade-towers/5546017

[Selene]

Incoming…. That didn’t take long, did it?

Iraq Will Use Sept 11 Bill To Sue US Government For 2003 Invasion, Demand Compensation


“In an unexpected twist, over the weekend following the passage of JASTA, it was citizens of Iraq who asked their parliament to demand compensation for the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. As Al-Arabiya news channel reported on Saturday, an Iraqi group has requested parliament to prepare a lawsuit seeking compensation from the US for the invasion of Iraq. The "Arab Project in Iraq" lobby group "sees their opportunity to ask for compensation from the United States over violations by the US forces following the US invasion that saw the toppling of late President Saddam Hussein in 2003."
Full story here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/iraq-will-use-sept-11-bill-sue-us-government-demand-compensation-2003-invasion

:popcorn:, anyone?

Cheers,
Selene

[Cidersomerset]

Congress Overrides Obama’s Veto To Sue Saudi Arabia

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Published on 2 Oct 2016
In a shocking display of bipartisan unity, the Senate has overruled President
Obama’s veto of a 9/11 bill which would allow victims of the terrorist attack to
directly sue the Saudi Arabian government. Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio and Sam
Seder discuss this. SUBSCRIBE to Ring Of Fire:
https://www.youtube.com/user/golefttv

[Cidersomerset]

Incoming…. That didn’t take long, did it?

You reminded me of this article I saw earlier and forgot ...LOL


1st lawsuit against Saudi Arabia over 9/11 attacks filed

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Published on 3 Oct 2016
Congress produced its first override of a presidential veto since Barack
Obama took office, effectively turned the Justice Against Sponsors of
Terror Act into law and allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue the
government in Saudi Arabia for its role in the attacks. Now, the first
complaint has been filed as RT America’s Alexey Yaroshevsky reports.

[Dianamar]

Incoming…. That didn’t take long, did it?

Iraq Will Use Sept 11 Bill To Sue US Government For 2003 Invasion, Demand Compensation


“In an unexpected twist, over the weekend following the passage of JASTA, it was citizens of Iraq who asked their parliament to demand compensation for the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. As Al-Arabiya news channel reported on Saturday, an Iraqi group has requested parliament to prepare a lawsuit seeking compensation from the US for the invasion of Iraq. The "Arab Project in Iraq" lobby group "sees their opportunity to ask for compensation from the United States over violations by the US forces following the US invasion that saw the toppling of late President Saddam Hussein in 2003."
Full story here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/iraq-will-use-sept-11-bill-sue-us-government-demand-compensation-2003-invasion

:popcorn:, anyone?

Cheers,
Selene

But " they've got the bombs " don't they ?

[Cidersomerset]

This Is What They Were Afraid Of — Iraqis Use 'Sue The Saudis' 9/11 Bill To Sue US
For 2003 Invasion

By David on 4 October 2016 GMT

ACTIVIST POST.....

This Is What They Were Afraid Of — Iraqis Use “Sue the Saudis” 9/11 Bill To Sue US For 2003 Invasion

TOPICS:Human RightsIraqMatt AgoristMilitarySeptember 11th.
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October 3, 2016

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By Matt Agorist

‘The warmongers in the US government have just had their fears realized as Iraq
plans to use the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), aka Sue the
Saudis Bill, to demand compensation for the US invasion of Iraq.

Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives, following the lead of the Senate,
passed a bill allowing Americans to sue Saudi Arabia over 9/11. When the bill made
it to the President’s desk, however, Obama quickly showed his loyalty to Saudi
Arabia and vetoed it. However, that was only the beginning of the rollercoaster.

Days after his despicable veto, the Senate stepped up and overwhelmingly voted to
override it.’

Read more: This Is What They Were Afraid Of — Iraqis Use ‘Sue The Saudis’ 9/11
Bill To Sue US For 2003 Invasion

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/afraid-iraqis-use-sue-saudis-911-bill-sue-us-2003-invasion.html

[shaberon]

Haven't seen the final version of this law yet.

Not sure what kind of brilliant strategy it takes to veto something that was unanimously passed.

If it extends towards other countries, and reflexively towards Americans, that sounds pretty fair. Bush and some of the others have immunity from criminal prosecution related to the events, but I don't think that includes civil lawsuits. Even if this results in a lot of out-of-court settlements--which is fairly normal for many suits vs. large entities--it sounds like a progressive twist to the mix. Saudi Arabia is going to "run out of gas" pretty quick as they get deeper into financial woes and pulled apart like a wishbone by Yemen.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Clearly, those among us who revile everything President Obama does - everything - have, like the members of Congress, fallen victim to the emotional campaign of the victims' families. So quick were they to gleefully take advantage of a perceived victory over "Obummer" that they failed to think through the ramifications of the veto. i.e. Americans overseas will now be subject to the laws of other countries, regardless of their 'immunity' status. They will be imprisoned for whatever charges foreign governments deem appropriate.

Good. Maybe then we won't take it so lightly to just barge across another sovereign nation's borders and take their fate into our hands.

[Cidersomerset]

The US , its agencies and other countries have been disregarding the rules of war for decades , and covertly longer.

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Ex-CIA Detainees Describe ‘Terrifying’ Unreported Torture Techniques

By David on 5 October 2016 GMT War and Terror

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Published on Monday, October 03, 2016
byCommon Dreams
Ex-CIA Detainees Describe 'Terrifying' Unreported Torture Techniques

New reports from Human Rights Watch shed further light on program
the government fought for years to keep hidden from public
byNadia Prupis, staff writer

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One of the methods involved being threatened with a makeshift electric
chair. (Photo: Human Rights Watch)

‘In a new Human Rights Watch (HRW) report released Monday, two former
CIA detainees described previously unreported torture techniques used in
secret U.S. prisons overseas, shedding new light on the program the
government fought for years to keep hidden.

Ridha al-Najjar, 51, and Lotfi al-Arabi El Gherissi, 52, both Tunisian men
recently repatriated after being in CIA custody for 13 years without charge,
independently described being threatened with a makeshift electric chair,
deprived of sleep, subject to multiple forms of water torture, chained by
their wrists to the ceilings of their cells for extended periods of time, and
severely beaten.The executive summary of the U.S. Senate Intelligence
Committee’s still-classified torture report makes no mention of electric chairs.’

Read more: Ex-CIA Detainees Describe ‘Terrifying’ Unreported Torture Techniques

http://commondreams.org/news/2016/10/03/ex-cia-detainees-describe-terrifying-unreported-torture-techniques

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Obama: US may end up with leader waging perpetual wars worldwide

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Published on 4 Oct 2016

Barack Obama has warned the next US president against engaging in perpetual
wars with little accountability. As his own presidency nears its end, he's admitted in
his latest interview that his drone legacy troubles him. RT's Caleb Maupin has more
on the story.