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Leon55

1st October 2016, 00:21

Professor David Jacobs says he has discovered that hybrids are integrating in our society (with the help of abductees) and also that they're preparing for some kind of event.

I was wondering if other abduction researchers support his findings? I can't really find any good info on that.

mojo

1st October 2016, 04:47

can you share a link about his statement? thanks...

CurEus

1st October 2016, 05:09

Linda Moulton Howe interviewed a woman whose blind daughter went to university and shared an apt with a hybrid.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/howe-linda-moulton/5699

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

Bill Ryan

1st October 2016, 11:31

can you share a link about his statement? thanks...

The summary is correct... it's a core theme presented in all David Jacobs' recent interviews and books.

He's an extremely solid, careful researcher, and I do think he's on to something maybe very important indeed. Linda Howe supports his work, and (ironically!) Dr Karla Turner certainly would be supporting it if she were still alive... she was on the same track, years earlier.

Linda Moulton Howe interviewed a woman whose blind daughter went to university and shared an apt with a hybrid.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/howe-linda-moulton/5699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

The book about this is Raechel's Eyes, by Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux.

http://5thworld.com/Raechel

http://www.5thworld.com/Raechel/RE.combo.cover3x4.jpg

eagle0027

1st October 2016, 14:36

Bill...if you are following this thread would you please comment in if or not the Linda M.H. interview subject is from serpo and part of that exchange.
Thanx Ed

Bill Ryan

1st October 2016, 14:45

Bill...if you are following this thread would you please comment in if or not the Linda M.H. interview subject is from serpo and part of that exchange.
Thanx Ed

Happy to comment, but please rephrase that so the question is a little clearer! I apologize, but I didn't understand at all what you were asking me.

eagle0027

1st October 2016, 16:35

Sorry Bill...in Lindas interview the explanation of where the apparent hybred was from i thought possibly could have been Serpo...and possibly part of that past exchange program that from my understanding you knew much about.Do you think there is any connection with the hybred program and serpo would be the most direct question.Although i do not recall any mention in the serpo material of their eyes having vertical slits.
Thanx again

mojo

1st October 2016, 17:42

Here's a recent link that makes mention...
"First and foremost, the abductees are not allowed to remember what happened to them." ~ Dr. David Jacobs

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Bill Ryan

1st October 2016, 17:47

mojo

1st October 2016, 17:49

Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

Flash

1st October 2016, 18:47

Bill Ryan

1st October 2016, 18:56

Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression?Only extremely rarely, unless the ETs want the person to remember. Memory-wipe (or memory-block, to be more accurate) is the normal operation. (And even then, when the memory is recovered, it could be a false 'screen' memory, as an extra 'protective' layer over what actually happened.

Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction? Absolutely. David Jacobs (and others agree) states that a person could be a long-time, repeated abductee, and have absolutely no idea any of this has even happened.

His research also indicates that if an abductee recovers one memory, say -- that's only the tip of the iceberg. He says that most abductees, if they've been abducted once, have been abducted many dozens or even hundreds of times.

Leon55

1st October 2016, 23:25

This is what is mentioned on wikipedia:

Criticism

Jacobs's hypotheses have been criticised as unsupportably dire by those who take a more positive view of the alien abduction experience such as John E. Mack; Jacobs labels these critics as "positivists" in his writings.[6] Details of alien abductions reported by Jacobs and so-called "positivist" researchers may not differ to any great extent; criticism of Jacobs by such peers therefore focuses on Jacobs's interpretations - e.g., where Jacobs sees "infiltration" (a negative), others may see "integration" (a positive).

Where differences in reports are more substantial (extending beyond the interpretive to actual distinctions between the alleged events reported by those who Jacobs interviews versus those interviewed by others), Jacobs has explained that elements not matching his own perspective are what he terms "confabulations."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Jacobs

Does Jacobs have a particular method that makes sure there are no confabulations?

And how many serious alien abduction researchers are out there and how many of them have found what Jacobs has found...

neutronstar

2nd October 2016, 01:21

This is what is mentioned on wikipedia:

Criticism

Jacobs's hypotheses have been criticised as unsupportably dire by those who take a more positive view of the alien abduction experience such as John E. Mack; Jacobs labels these critics as "positivists" in his writings.

I don't necessarily see Jacobs's findings as being negative. They could be, but I can also make an argument that it is positive. I have heard many of his interviews and I don't think he has enought information to determine whether they are positive or negative.

He needs to take a step back and look objectively at the human race. We are pretty dysfunctional. We are a danger to ET's and ourselves. I believe we were tinkered with from the beginning and there is still more work to be done for us to be considered a sane species.

He takes the view that any manipulation is bad. I look at it as if they are doing it to make us a better species, than it's probably for the better. I don't think anybody knows though.

boja

2nd October 2016, 06:48

It's well worth remembering that......

Many Abductees take years to realise it
Many Abductees take years to admit it.
Many Abductees NEVER realise it.
Many Abductees NEVER admit it.

But that's all quite understandable.

It may also be worth mentioning that Wikipedia is only a guide, -
It CANNOT be relied upon 100%

mojo

2nd October 2016, 07:00

Can a person put themselves in a state to recall memories? Meditation for example? I'm 100% sure of having not even a hint of being taken or examined yet at the same time 100% sure of visitation and daylight disk taking off outside my bedroom window.

Curious77

2nd October 2016, 14:31

Leon --
Don't know about researchers -- and don't know if Prof. John Mack had reached any final conclusions about the abductions before his death. I do think he was in some part trying to consider different aspects of abductions than had been considered previously - in spiritual realm, perhaps?

However, it makes sense that the abduction program may have been about sustaining their own lives - therefore, HYBRID would be one step toward doing that. Presumably the HYBRID is dumbed down because it is part human, but perhaps also retains enough intelligence where -- along with other HYBRIDS -- they might at some point be able to offer solutions to us. That's taking a positive view. Too often, however, we seem to see not simply species more intelligent than us, but betraying that intelligence in collaborating with elites here, perhaps. And, even in long ago wars using nuclear weapons?

If this planet was coming to an end -- as they seemed to have been warning some of the abductees about (at least into the 1960's) then they would have known they'd be wasting their time. And from all signs, we are approaching desperate times with increasing Global Warming.

Meanwhile, for those who might watch "Ancient Aliens" -- and I think it is also clear from what survives of communication from much older societies on this planet -- visitors from outer space seem to have always taken control of populations by becoming "Royalty" among them. I think that also gives question to whether the Putin rumors might be true about the "Royal Family" in UK being reptilians.

PS: Loved Prof. John Mack and was very saddened by his death. But, although I tried to stay tuned to his exploration of abductions and aliens -- and I did read at least one of his books, perhaps more? -- all I can really remember is one incident experienced by an abductee reported in one of his books: She woke up and at the foot of her bed, in front of her dresser, was an alien. And he was trying on her high heels.

mojo

2nd October 2016, 16:58

Thought this might be a good case to examine.

video description: Throughout her life Lisa recalls experiences with Extraterrestrial beings on many different levels of contact. Some are of a physical, 3-Dimensional level, experienced through her physical senses when awake and fully conscious. Others are experienced more on an energetic plain of consciousness, while still others can be described as multi-dimensional communications.

Lisa feels a strong kinship and sense of community with these ET beings, so much so that she describes them like family.

While it may be difficult for many people to distinguish between one's own thinking and imagination, or that of a conscious connection to more subtle levels of consciousness and life, let alone extraterrestrial and inter-dimensional beings, Lisa has made it her life work to open up to these possibilities and communicate them to others.

Says Lisa, "I want people to know its alright to talk about this and to stop being afraid of the stigma of; 'you're crazy'... This is more normal than people want to admit."

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Sunny-side-up

2nd October 2016, 17:18

Verdilac

3rd October 2016, 01:54

Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

I would say, Yes mojo

Probably most of the worlds population has been and is totally unaware they have been.
and or
is programmed to shun the mear mention of the subject/s
Sleepers all

Can a person put themselves in a state to recall memories? Meditation for example? I'm 100% sure of having not even a hint of being taken or examined yet at the same time 100% sure of visitation and daylight disk taking off outside my bedroom windo
Same here mojo, seen many quite near craft now, one of which (A masive blimp shaped pulsating/coloured ship (Cuttlefish craft)) was going to slowly pass over me an a friend, no more that 200 feet up, but then no memories of it passing over me or of my journey home? some for my friend!

I strongly think there is a trigger, and if the person never gets the trigger they may be oblivious to everything that has happened to them.

For example, 2 total unconnected people I have spoken too in the past year remember being locked in metal boxes as children by people they cannot explain or understand . The only similarity in there background was that they were born within 3 miles of each other and a year apart.

There were no loaded questions, the mentioning of these matters were completely spontaneous and came up in open converstation .

Was this kind of thing part of the deal when we incarnated here, as In ; the group that secured the body to incarnate into comes to collect DNA etc as it was agreed prior to arrival . And if so, is it acceptable or against some code of conduct and so is done covertly, as arriving at a location & putting people in boxes almost seems like smuggling as if the abductee were contraband.

A further question would be is this harvested material being used to grow specimens for food and sport for an off world race.

This ancient depiction is it is very disturbing in my humble opinion and seems to show a reptile headed hunter being give a gift for something from a female with what appears to be a large knife in her left hand. And yes that does also appear to be a human head on a serving tray

Sunny-side-up

3rd October 2016, 08:44

Reality (what the H dose that word mean?) is just not as portrayed by the majority of humans, they are clinging onto the safe picture that suites them, that keeps them from giving up or just running around in panic circles. (an insane person is someone outside of the majority, that majority is shifting fast)

Awake, open minded people do have a very different vision of reality, do see things and or remember things that have gone on, going on.
We are multidimensional so we are multi-realities all rolled into one.
I think there have been many different speeches interacting with us from way back and way forwards for that matter, they are all part of this show, it's all a massive intertwined existence we have, or it might just be a dream :)

If you consider and believe we are immortal souls, well how do a immortal consciousness handle that, it puts in place schools and distractions, places like this mad house planet, but first it wipes it's memory so that it dose not know the score any-more, bang a whole new party to explore.

Then depending on your level of remembering (and or the actions of the higher self/s looking over)
you begin to have more and more versions to play in, more and more options/limitations and concepts. Concepts like seeing Aliens, like thinking your on soul contract missions, the higher your awayness you start believing in higher beings etc or you go down the opposite route/path and experience the smaller box-reality and hopefully just have fun.
That's the key, have fun if you can but keep onto the concept of LOVE, that one is a worthy true reality.

This is a weird school for immortals :sun:

Bill Ryan

3rd October 2016, 11:38

.
Here's a personal anecdote, from 2010, about hybrid training... one of the interesting things reported by David Jacobs (but I don't think by anyone else).

I was contacted back in 2010 by a longtime Project Camelot supporter, a woman who lived at that time in Belleville, Ontario. I'll call her Jane (not her real name). Jane was a well-educated businesswoman, with her own knowledge of and interest in the UFO phenomenon.

Jane was in the Belleville Starbucks one day, and got talking to another woman drinking coffee there, with whom she struck up a friendly conversation over a period of an hour or more.

The two women were chatting about very regular things... movies, shopping, current affairs, and so on. Jane described the other woman as intelligent, articulate, maybe in her 40s, well-presented, and clearly well-educated.

When Jane asked the other woman about her job, she said she worked at the local Canadian Military base (I cannot remember if it was Army or Air Force). By now, they had established really quite a strong ‘instant friendship’. Jane stressed how they got along exceptionally well, and she liked this other woman very much, a feeling that seemed to be reciprocated.

The other woman then pointed out three men, who were sitting at tables, separately, in the restaurant. She said they were her trainees, and they were ETs who lived at the military base. They were sitting in Starbucks to observe and assimilate normal human behavior. (Surely a perfect place!)

Jane could see them all. She said their heads were slightly large and round, and they had some (but not a lot of) hair. She described them as ‘Charlie Brown’ heads. But they were all within the normal human range, and were normally dressed. No-one around them gave them a second thought. They were each sitting on their own, behaving quietly and normally.

The woman gave Jane her name and e-mail address, and said she would be happy to meet again. Jane did indeed try to contact her, but never heard from her again. She returned to the Starbucks after that many times, but never saw her again, or the three unusual men. I asked Jane if she felt there was any chance that the woman might have been joking, but Jane’s certain judgment was that she was absolutely not.

I was so curious about this that I flew to meet her, and sat in that Starbucks myself for many hours (with my camera in my pocket!). But nothing unusual transpired.

That’s where the story ends. Jane has now canceled all her e-mail addresses I had for her, and is not returning any messages.

The other interesting thing here, of course, is that there is the implication that the [human] military is involved in these programs at least in some way. That was also a core part of the very extraordinary Raechel's Eyes story, recounted by myself here in post #4. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93680-Which-researchers-support-the-conclusions-of-David-Jacobs-on-alien-abductions&p=1102972&viewfull=1#post1102972)

CurEus

4th October 2016, 06:06

The instant empathic bonding suggests to me that the "trainer" was employing more than just charm and personal magnetism...perhaps SHE was Hybrid conducting socialization scenarios?

Okay, perhaps I am projecting a bit too much but I tend to try to reject what immediately forcibly draws my attention be it magic tricks, optical illusions., or the "obvious". Canadians tend not to push our governments too hard on matters relating to the military, special/black/secret projects. I tend to think we're not really invited to play in the "big leagues" with the "big boys" ...we can;t even get the UK to sell up working submarines....although I am aware of some university level research for decades into mind control ( U of Ottawa). UNTIL 2010 when this officer was accused and convicted of some VERY bizarre behaviours. Namely running around stealing women's underwear and murdering. He was one of the most rapidly promoted officers in Canadian History and then BOOM in jail almost overnight. Is it not the modus operandi of the gatekeepers to power to always have dirt on their proteges? Apparently this is done in music, Hollywood, politics, business...military would be obvious?

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/10/18/the_secret_life_of_col_russell_williams_exposed.html

In Rachel's Eyes I believe Rachel's handler/ in loco parentis? was an officer from a nearby military base? She "failed" her integration as she apparently had MANY startling traits suck as enormous green eyes with slit iris, some bizarre food requirements and other unusual behaviours IIRC. She was also able to somehow ameliorate the blindness of her room mate before she was removed ( by the military officer) from the living arrangements.

As it relates to abduction and hybridization projects I see nothing benign about it at all with a few caveats:.
People are taken against their will, procedures are performed including impregnation in order to produce some intensely psychic hybrids (abominations?) that can exercise near absolute control over the minds and psyche of Earth's human indigenous population. Either militaries/governments desire this or they can do little to prevent it. WHOM in their right minds that are sworn to "protect" their nations just submit to this kind of pogrom of colonisation and perhaps extermination?

Does it mean humanity becomes an advanced super-psychic space faring race in a few generations or are we to be forever subsumed to the will of others? or worse...eliminated?
I am aware that many aliens have "stated" that humans are a mix of several different species or that we were genetically compromised by some races to keep us essentially handicapped ( lowered intelligence, life span, awareness, psychic ability) so I can see that some would want those advantages back so we can effectively compete with other intelligent species...perhaps some of humanity is playing a game hoping that we can "humanize" the hybrids at some point or adapt some of their DNA to bolster ourselves into a defensible position through gene therapies or co-opt some of their technologies?

If the greys that are engaging this hybrid plan are actually just automated husks/bio droids or somesuch who leads/commands them?
Many abductees that reclaim some true memories speak of experiencing horrible pain and trauma...will hybrids change this? Or do we end up with unstable human emotions in the housing of intergalatic sociopaths? Hybrids having psycholtic episodes with tech thousands of years ahead of our own....not a comforting thought.
Abductees also assert that at times they have been given new "clone bodies" and had their consciousness transferred to the "new model" seems intriguing and very disturbing. I don't want to end up in a jar.....stuck on a "shelf"

I am left wondering just how "intelligent" ( apart from raw processing speed/power ) the abductors actually are. Seriously, most major cities have sperm and ova banks. Our DNA is not too difficult to acquire...run a fertility clinic, is that really so hard? Run a vaccine company or blood testing lab...LOTS of DNA that route. Considering we as a species present more than 3000 genetic defects that lead to disease states they may want to help clean up our DNA....

It seems if this scenario is accurate and correct we as Dr Jacobs asserts are very much under threat. I am VERY aware that Linda Moulton Howe specifically does not report on certain phenomena principally human mutilations ( as opposed to cows and cats) as she was purportedly told ( to put it nicely) to steer clear of that topic. She certainly does "intimate" as much by what she doesn't say noting I have a tremendous amount of respect for her and her work.

I would like to see Bill, Linda, Richard Dolan and a few others sit down and have a candid chat with a FULLY REALIZED "hubrid" or hybrid and watch them ask 1000 questions.

Dr. Jacobs was threatened by what he refers to as "enforcers/security" hybrids/hubrids as were some of his patients. I do note that there are also some accusations about his less than professional conduct towards patients. I am not familiar with them but google brings them up quickly. Unclear if it a smear campaign though.

In closing, as " depressing" as this scenario is I am reminded of the Amicizia Project and researcher Timothy Good's investigations that purport to chronicle the VERY friendly and amicable contact of several human like alien species that met with select humans around the world for many years and were opposed to the malevolent "cyborgs" race ( greys I assume) hybridizing and abducting us.

http://hybridsrising.com/Articles/Hybrids-Rising-Alien-Enterprise-Art.html

Bill Ryan

4th October 2016, 15:35

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Here's an interview with Linda Howe on exactly this subject. (And the extraordinary Raechel's Eyes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93680-Which-researchers-support-the-conclusions-of-David-Jacobs-on-alien-abductions&p=1102972&viewfull=1#post1102972) story is discussed as well)

Linda Moulton Howe: a New Human Alien Species

The YouTube text (emphasis is mine)

Linda Moulton Howe asks could it be that the human race is being replaced by a new human-alien species, without our knowing it? Howe reports on an individual who believes that she is an alien-human hybrid. Linda interviews Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux about Helen's daughter's relationship with a college roommate who they came to understand was an alien-human hybrid after she was observed to have avocado-green eyes with vertical black slits rather than human eyes. (She normally kept them covered with dark glasses, but they slipped off at one point.)

This is the most amazing and sobering story of this strange possibility ever told. Are there alien-human hybrids? The answer appears to be yes, but the larger answer could be absolutely incredible: it could be that the human species that is here now is being replaced by them and that, over time, Earth will no longer belong to mankind as we understand ourselves now, but by a new species, created out of a mixture of us and the very mysterious beings who are engaged in this immense, decades-long project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

Flash

4th October 2016, 17:14

For your info
Belleville Ontario has the Trenton military based managed by the Canadian Air Force. Re: hubrids in Starbuck in Belleville
If it makes any difference!??

I remember Simon Parkes telling me that up to a few years ago, hybrids program was well under way, for 2 purposes: to give a chance to dracs and mantids souls to be able to incarnate in bodies that could evolve towards spiritual development(the piggy backing theory) abd to have some beings able to live on the planet if humans were to destroy themselves.

He also told me that they had difficulties with their hybrids. They would go crazy before hitting 20 years old. They would have to be destroyed. And this had to be solved.

On the other hand, i read A report on the apfn.org site ( i cannot find the exact quote) that some abductees were telling of teenage hybrids that were very violent, raping women and girls, sometimes group rapes, sone being very possessive of their abductee match, etc In a few words hybrids going nuts.

So, there might be hybrids getting more and more human looking in appearance and behaviors

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Here's an interview with Linda Howe on exactly this subject. (And the extraordinary Raechel's Eyes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93680-Which-researchers-support-the-conclusions-of-David-Jacobs-on-alien-abductions&p=1102972&viewfull=1#post1102972) story is discussed as well)

Linda Moulton Howe: a New Human Alien Species

The YouTube text (emphasis is mine)

Linda Moulton Howe asks could it be that the human race is being replaced by a new human-alien species, without our knowing it? Howe reports on an individual who believes that she is an alien-human hybrid. Linda interviews Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux about Helen's daughter's relationship with a college roommate who they came to understand was an alien-human hybrid after she was observed to have avocado-green eyes with vertical black slits rather than human eyes. (She normally kept them covered with dark glasses, but they slipped off at one point.)

This is the most amazing and sobering story of this strange possibility ever told. Are there alien-human hybrids? The answer appears to be yes, but the larger answer could be absolutely incredible: it could be that the human species that is here now is being replaced by them and that, over time, Earth will no longer belong to mankind as we understand ourselves now, but by a new species, created out of a mixture of us and the very mysterious beings who are engaged in this immense, decades-long project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

CurEus

5th October 2016, 02:58

Flash, it does seem to make a good deal of sense that hybrids are not able to integrate themselves mentally or physically. I recall abductees recounting the need for them to hug and "nurture" the little abominations as infants and small children else they would whither away and die. We are aware orphan babies during ww2 would suffer greatly if not held, rocked nurtured and played with.

Imagine that sad scenario compounded by years of emotional neglect from emotionally dead android greys. May as well as ask my laptop to raise children... ( TV and now Ipads are) they'll never really develop any means by which to be social I expect. Compound that with the demands of puberty, hormonal changes and WHATEVER the hybrid DNA brings into the mix and I would expect serious complications. In my previous post I raised a concern of super-psychotic hybrids having psychotic breakdowns.....with access to tech and weaponry millennia ahead of our own.

It would be interesting to see what happens when a hybrid is raised by a kind, loving and nurturing family. Could we ever hide one from the greys? Are secret projects attempting just that scenario?

Does anyone know if they greys are just on autopilot plodding along until they can resurrect their extinct masters?

WhiteLove

5th October 2016, 19:17

David Jacobs could be tapping into something remarkable, but there are aspects to his stories, like totally dumb questions, having no answer. Like, if he knows hybrids are among us and they also have some ability we don't have, where are they? Just 1 hybrid on camera demonstrating what David says, that's enough for me. So on one hand in deed the theories are on the professor/doctor level, but the evidence and the kinds of questions left unanswered makes it appear thin. So the question then becomes, does it only appear thin and is not, or maybe it is as thin as it appears? That's the question and that question has to be answered before you delve into the depths of this stuff. At least that's what I feel. Like for me it's problematic to listen for hours about this stuff especially when drama is added to the theories, while at the same time a bunch of dumb questions remain unanswered in the background. On one hand mankind is doomed by a superior alien race flooding earth and on the other hand there is not a single piece of evidence that a single hybrid being actually exists. It is an extreme unbalance. I think it would help to reduce all of the information down to a single thing, like "hybrids are among us". Where are they?! Just 1 hybrid presented on camera by David, that would instantly shift all of this into something serious. Before that it is kind of not so serious, it appears serious but it's not. Before so, it could be true, who knows, but David should be the person with the best chances to prove it, due to his experience and claims.

I think what we know is this: We don't know are there hybrids among us, because we and David cannot prove there are. So it is a neutral position, with or without information added to this phenomenon, both David and we end up with the same conclusion - we lack proof and hence we don't know.

Bill Ryan

5th October 2016, 19:40

Just 1 hybrid presented on camera

Well, here's one.

I've posted this elsewhere (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85977-Don-t-Date-An-Abductee&p=1009598&viewfull=1#post1009598) and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86088-Alien-Abduction-and-Extraterrestrial-Human-Hybrids&p=1010763&viewfull=1#post1010763)) but here's a photo, that I have to say looks pretty real, of a supposed actual hybrid. (Look at the eyes!)

The page of text in the image below is from a book by multiple experiencer Stan Romanek. The girl, named Suri, may be one of his own children.

http://projectavalon.net/Suri_1.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Suri_2.jpg

WhiteLove

5th October 2016, 19:58

Interesting Bill, the eyes look like they could be alien, but who knows, could also be a photoshop work. But here is the question. Why was this the only photo captured, why not a zoomed in picture on the three fingers. Always something missing and that's the sign to pay attention to.

I think there are some indications that hybrids might exist, but we simply need much better and stronger evidence.

Bill, when you watch closely on the color picture the neck section appears flawed by some software editing. That particular photo appears to have been photoshopped. It appears that a layer has been placed on top of the original photo with the aim to make the picture appear to present a hybrid.

Melatonin

15th October 2016, 10:22

Budd Hopkins supports this hypotesis as well.

Flowerpunkchip

17th October 2016, 19:52

I absolutely love and respect Linda Moulton Howe.

I don't feel the same way about Stan Romanek.
I don't want to offend. I hope I'm wrong about him.
But this quote comes to mind when I post negativity about someone.

"A time comes when silence is betrayal."
- Martin Luther King

TrumanCash

7th November 2016, 04:19

In my research that I did over twenty years ago with numerous abductees (myself included) I never found any evidence or even a hint that abductees were being programmed to act in any certain way against fellow Earth humans vis a vis some future event orchestrated by ETs. This could be propaganda to create distrust of abductees.

I've always been suspicious about this and Budd Hopkins has participated in disinformation dissemination as evidenced by the so-called documentary hosted by Mike Farrell (and ostensibly the CIA) in 1988. Don't you just love them folks at the CIA!

mojo

7th November 2016, 07:52

Budd Hopkins has participated in disinformation dissemination

Hi, Saying disinfo as "evidenced" please help me find the source. I have respected the man for helping people and trying to find answers. I found an 1988 hour and half Mike Farrell video with many other interviewees but couldnt find Budd part in it? Here are some short videos about Budd for others to decide. Also thanks for your experience of 20 years in the field ...

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