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Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 14:56
The US globalists continue to prod the bear in Syria, and this guy says we can be wiped out within 1/2 an hour if Russia wants to.

This situation is getting extremely worrying, and I wonder what Mr Putin is going to do about it...

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GaelVictor
2nd October 2016, 15:40
This guy is an idiot, he is clueless and got al his facts wrong.
Surely, you can't be serious about this video message.

Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 16:05
In the last video I put on, Mr Donnelly speaks to General Hyten about sureing up the US security system....because he is *WORRIED* about the ability of the US to repond to outside forces.

Baby Steps
2nd October 2016, 17:05
Hi,
yes this IS extremely worrying ! The signals are all pointing one way- escalation. I think/hope its all bluster, but why take these silly risks? If we could prevail on those pouring arms and ammo into Syria to STOP, Russia + Syria would be able to mop up ISIS, Nusra etc in six months.

Our job in the west is to use diplomacy to close any leaky borders into ISIS land locked territories.

Newsflash for these psychos- there is no 'bomb deficit' or 'plane deficit' in Syria that we need to redress!

All the big powers carry the capability to EMP their opponents. That is let off a strong H bomb in near space above the opponent, that will burn out all the electronics. PCs, Power lines, transformers, generators, all micro electronics including engine management systems etc.

This could also be an option for North Korea, so really its well overdue for us to start learning to live together in peace.

In today's paper Putin was quoted quite strangely in his threats towards the USA. He said that USA aggression could be answered with a 'tectonic' response. I wonder if that was a mis-translation. Possibly not. There are so many prophecies regarding California. Destabilising a tectonic fault line with a nuke (or other tech) is not sci-fi. Think Fukushima.

I do not think this threat is intended to be opaque. I think Putin wishes tptb to know exactly what is is store if they persist with the slaughter. Such an event would trigger a financial shock too. Let's leave Syria and the Bear alone.

It's not rocket science!

Sunny-side-up
2nd October 2016, 17:11
Mr Eric Dolard keeps saying, how the USA power grid is built as if to include a total weakness, is defenceless to very simple EMF strikes, he says even small ones would just rip through the grid. So just doing that would demolish most of the USA.
I'm sure Mr Putins forces would know this aswell.

greybeard
2nd October 2016, 17:16
There will be NO war between USA and Russia.
Neither are that stupid.
There would not be on human being left alive if such an event happened.
Why worry.

Chris

Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 17:18
*THANK YOU* so much for that information BabySteps, because of the disinformation plastered about now, people have become 'switched off' at believing...or taking notice of what could happen to them.

God bless...

ghostrider
2nd October 2016, 21:38
. too much saber rattling is not good ... they never consider Love , peace, freedom, and harmony where every one wins... inwar no one truely wins, it only brings suffering, death, and hatred ...

Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 22:14
Neither are that stupid.

The US government certainly is Chris.

greybeard
2nd October 2016, 22:20
Neither are that stupid.

The US government certainly is Chris.

May be so but they dont make the big decisions--smiling

Chris

Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 22:42
I've got 12 new rose bushes in my garden, I hope I get to smell them again next year.. :flower:

Baby Steps
2nd October 2016, 22:46
I've got 12 new rose bushes in my garden, I hope I get to smell them again next year.. :flower:

of course you will! dont forget " the russians will be the death of us all" fear meme is another psi op. they love it when we are fearful, let's not give them the satisfaction

Bob
2nd October 2016, 23:27
This is hilarious in my opinion - everyone forget about biowar being able to be carried out by a kid with a germ kit? Yet alone a skilled bioterrorism group run by any country, or skilled group planetwide? Russian, how about anyone with the bugs can take out the planet for the most part with an incident. (see the Ebola thread in Alt Medical in PA for the background).. forget missiles, ICBM's..

Sueanne47
2nd October 2016, 23:45
This is hilarious in my opinion - everyone forget about biowar being able to be carried out by a kid with a germ kit? Yet alone a skilled bioterrorism group run by any country, or skilled group planetwide? Russian, how about anyone with the bugs can take out the planet for the most part with an incident. (see the Ebola thread in Alt Medical in PA for the background).. forget missiles, ICBM's..

Well the dark side will find any way to decrease a population. I feel like I'm joining in with all the doom porn, but I'm praying that we will make it through these dreadful times.

wnlight
3rd October 2016, 02:01
Graybeard, I must tell you that Hillary IS that stupid. Because she does not care how much American would suffer in a full-blown WWIII. And tptb plan to demolish both countries.

Yetti
3rd October 2016, 03:20
Yes is very worrying but.... anyone has made the 62000 penny question here? WHAT A HELL WE DO IN SYRIA? IS VERY FAR AWAY FROM OUR BORDERS. PROTECTING SOME BIG CORPORATION INTEREST MAY BE? IT SUCKS ! Fix the house first ! later perhaps, go elsewhere to " help" some other nation is just my tough......

Mike Gorman
3rd October 2016, 05:14
The Clinton faction is well enmeshed with the Pentagon idiots who seem intent on playing these brinkmanship games, and messing about with terrorist creation-ISIS is a direct results of all that Libya nonsense when 'We Came We Saw, He Died' occurred - that was an outrage - Clinton is stupid and hostile, Putin is the voice of reason in comparison - They are so obsessed with getting Assad out that they might just trigger an incident-this is B.S! We need to remove these people from their military industrial complex-dismantle the damned thing!

Sueanne47
3rd October 2016, 12:47
I know some folks think that the Donald is the lesser of 2 evils, but he is sending out mixed messages. First, he said he would "bomb the sh*t out of Isis, they are taking the oil out of Syria and selling it in Turkey. Donald's friend Mr Murdoch who's part of Genie oil, is one of the Freemason's apart from Cheney and the Rothchild's pushing the middle east genocide for oil and gas, this is what Donald said about Mobil oil...so is he just as bad as Rupert Murdoch, wanting to take out Syria's oil?

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Sunny-side-up
3rd October 2016, 12:57
There will be NO war between USA and Russia.
Neither are that stupid.
There would not be on human being left alive if such an event happened.
Why worry.

Chris

They aren't that stupid, highly egotistic yes, demonic yes, in full knowledge of their games plan (That's all of them together as one).

The real problem here, if you consider things like 'DUMBS' to be real, is that there are many in all countries, manned by the elite and the chosen.
Then there is the, in my view hi possibility of colonies out side of Earth, again manned by the elite and chosen.
Then there is the possibility that those who really are pulling the strings aren't humans and we as MK XYZ?-Humans of their ongoing experiment are running out of time/usefulness!

We as a population are far more awake now to the above normal way of looking at this so called reality. we see them now and that triggers the time for them to flush!

I don't think they can flush this time round though, they and their occulted energies are fazing out.

But they, unless we get higher help, will make it very rough for many of us here.

I really do believe we are going to make it through this part of our evolution.
Golden times are coming/here

:sun:

Sueanne47
3rd October 2016, 13:30
I hope too that we have divine protection, I worry though that we will all have to pay because of the elite's greed of oil & gas and wanting to forge ahead with this damned NWO. Also they want the WW3 to happen to destroy the Golden domed mosque..to put the 3rd temple on the site where solomons 1st temple was. They cant put their 3rd temple up until the mosque is destroyed. Then they will make Israel the centre of the world of the NWO.

I wonder how thing's are going to pan out, and we can cut out this cancer spreading over our earth.

Sueanne47
3rd October 2016, 13:38
More about the internal rot of American culture ~ NWO

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Sueanne47
3rd October 2016, 15:18
The west are trying to justify their intervention in Syria by giving us false media propaganda:

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(pub. 2nd oct)

TargeT
3rd October 2016, 18:31
Well this isnt a step in the right direction...


Putin suspends nuclear pact, raising stakes in row with Washington

http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20161003&t=2&i=1155899871&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXNPEC920J8
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday suspended a treaty with Washington on cleaning up weapons-grade plutonium, signaling he is willing to use nuclear disarmament as a new bargaining chip in disputes with the United States over Ukraine and Syria.

Starting in the last years of the Cold War, Russia and the United States signed a series of accords to reduce the size of their nuclear arsenals, agreements that have so far survived intact despite a souring of U.S.-Russian relations under Putin.

But on Monday, Putin issued a decree suspending an agreement, concluded in 2000, which bound the two sides to dispose of surplus plutonium originally intended for use in nuclear weapons.

The Kremlin said it was taking that action in response to unfriendly acts by Washington. It made the announcement shortly before Washington said it was suspending talks with Russia on trying to end the violence in Syria.

The plutonium accord is not the cornerstone of post-Cold War U.S.-Russia disarmament, and the practical implications from the suspension will be limited. But the suspension, and the linkage to disagreements on other issues, carries powerful symbolism.

"Putin's decree could signal that other nuclear disarmament cooperation deals between the United States and Russia are at risk of being undermined," Stratfor, a U.S.-based consultancy, said in a commentary.

"The decision is likely an attempt to convey to Washington the price of cutting off dialogue on Syria and other issues."

U.S. State Department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement on Monday that bilateral contacts with Moscow over Syria were being suspended. Kirby said Russia had failed to live up to its commitments under a ceasefire agreement.

Western diplomats say an end to the Syria talks leaves Moscow free to pursue its military operation in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but without a way to disentangle itself from a conflict which shows no sign of ending.

Russia and the United States are also at loggerheads over Ukraine. Washington, along with Europe, imposed sanctions on Russia after it annexed Ukraine's Crimea region in 2014 and backed pro-Moscow rebels in eastern Ukraine.

LIST OF GRIEVANCES

Putin submitted a draft law to parliament setting out under what conditions work under the plutonium accord could be resumed. Those conditions were a laundry list of Russian grievances towards the United States.

They included Washington lifting the sanctions imposed on Russia over Ukraine, paying compensation to Moscow for the sanctions, and reducing the U.S. military presence in NATO member state in eastern Europe to the levels they were 16 years ago.

Any of those steps would involve a complete U-turn in long-standing U.S. policy.
"The Obama administration has done everything in its power to destroy the atmosphere of trust which could have encouraged cooperation," the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement on the treaty's suspension.

"The step Russia has been forced to take is not intended to worsen relations with the United States. We want Washington to understand that you cannot, with one hand, introduce sanctions against us where it can be done fairly painlessly for the Americans, and with the other hand continue selective cooperation in areas where it suits them."

The 2010 agreement, signed by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and then-U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, called on each side to dispose of 34 tonnes of plutonium by burning it in nuclear reactors.

Clinton said at the time that there was enough of the material to make almost 17,000 nuclear weapons. Both sides back then viewed the deal as a sign of increased cooperation between the two former Cold War adversaries.

Russian officials alleged on Monday that Washington had failed to honor its side of the agreement. The Kremlin decree stated that, despite the suspension, Russia's surplus weapons-grade plutonium would not be put to military use.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-nuclear-idUSKCN1230YN

Maia Gabrial
3rd October 2016, 18:56
I've had enough of wars. The Pentagon is only trying to show Americans how much we need them; which isn't that much. Well, not until all the wars have stopped. They provoke other countries so badly into responding, so that they (the Pentagon) is justified getting unlimited funding and weapons. And let's face it, some people love getting their murder on! They don't seem like peacekeepers at all.

There are so many good soldiers and veterans and civilians who have gotten sucked into the lies of "fighting for God and Country". We're continually discovering how America was pulled into EVERY war by lies to benefit someone's bank account. So ask, who's the real enemy there?

And then, people need to realize the other part of that "fight for God and Country" slogan. If God is supposedly this UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING BEING, then why would IT want anyone to kill other people who are just as much loved as us? Who is the real enemy in that kind of thinking?

I used to be a complete Putin fan. Even now, he still has more honor that anyone in the US govt; but I had to ask myself what is really going on? If it's truly about freeing us from our corrupted, monstrous, out-of-control govt, then I'd gladly cheer him on. Except that so many Americans still don't know how corrupt the govt is....

But I suspect that it's all about who controls the next financial system; and that isn't going to solve anything. I'd rather see all money eliminated and wars become illegal.

And let the filthy rich suffer for a change....

Sorry, I just got carried away a bit.....:becky:

Sueanne47
4th October 2016, 07:23
Dont you think its kinda weird how the book of revelations is being played out for real? I feel that its out of anyone's control 'cos its been prophesised from years ago exactly how things will pan out...the only part I'm not looking forward to is the end bit.

greybeard
4th October 2016, 08:07
Sueanne47 according to the late Dr David Hawkins the Book of Revelations was channeled from the lower astral and calibrates very low on the scale of consciousness.
Apart from being enlightened he used kinesology to test and calibrate many things.
Assuming him to be correct Revelations is not going to happen.

Some Christian "religions" are heavy into fire and brimstone ---they seem to ignore the core teaching of Jesus-- Love and forgiveness, non judgmental.
Revelations is far removed from what Jesus taught.
Anything that promotes fear is not of God.

Chris

Sueanne47
4th October 2016, 08:18
Thanks for bringing that up Chris, we are all very worried though, especially now 40 million russians are doing a nuclear drill..

Baby Steps
4th October 2016, 09:07
Interesting , fear being ramped up. I think the Russians view the us establishment in a kind of pre collapse state, they are concerned as to what desperate actions they may take as the size of the distraction needed keeps increasing....

Distraction from what?


Hard to say but the establishment candidate ,HC is losing credibility fast.

Also the Saudis are threatening to release 9-11 information. If it is released, Russia loses one of the holds that they have over the bad guys. Russia has threatened to release before and not followed through.

So keep the distractions going, they are signs of great revelations to come

greybeard
4th October 2016, 11:10
Maybe its my age---but I have heard it all before and believed it back then.
AND here we are breathing in and breathing out.

If we stopped listening to the news on TV--most of which is hype--would we not feel at ease?
Who profits from keeping the populace in fear?

Who makes big bucks from producing weapons?
Follow the money---who then justifies bigger and better weapons of mass destruction to "Keep us safe"----from what exactly?

If Nuclear war started you would be dead before you had a chance to think about it.
Everything in the world would be devastated, no way of producing atomic radiation free food and water.
Underground shelter/city would not be immune to after effects.

There is an amazing amount of good things happening but thats not dramatic--not news worthy, not scary.

There seems to be something in the human nature that need some thing out there to be scared off---its called ego.
Them and us is an ego mind function.
The ego needs an enemy--to maintain its hold on the individual.

Ch

Sueanne47
4th October 2016, 16:20
Them and us is an ego mind function.

Err, no ...more like a saudi/us ego! they want oil & gas control over the entire region and weakening of Russia & Iran, because they want to flood the world with cheap oil. This is what they are doing in Venezuela.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/5410130

Really I cant for the life of me understand why they are pushing this agenda with gas & oil, ~ if there's a war there wont be anyone left on earth to use it! :wacko2:

greybeard
4th October 2016, 16:33
Nothing is as it seems to be Sueanne.
Control is also an ego function--smiling

Ch

Sunny-side-up
4th October 2016, 19:34
Maybe its my age---but I have heard it all before and believed it back then.
AND here we are breathing in and breathing out.

If we stopped listening to the news on TV--most of which is hype--would we not feel at ease?
Who profits from keeping the populace in fear?

Who makes big bucks from producing weapons?
Follow the money---who then justifies bigger and better weapons of mass destruction to "Keep us safe"----from what exactly?

If Nuclear war started you would be dead before you had a chance to think about it.
Everything in the world would be devastated, no way of producing atomic radiation free food and water.
Underground shelter/city would not be immune to after effects.

There is an amazing amount of good things happening but thats not dramatic--not news worthy, not scary.

There seems to be something in the human nature that need some thing out there to be scared off---its called ego.
Them and us is an ego mind function.
The ego needs an enemy--to maintain its hold on the individual.

Ch
The film trailer below fits into to your above comment, which I agree with greybeard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZ7O-RrATY

This is a great film and has a great deal of 'Truth-Seekers-Subjects' (Breakaway Civilisations, Tesla, Time-travel, Teleportation, Human-Robotics etc) and it comes from 'Disney'! I won't say more than that, don't want to spoil for those not seen yet.

shaberon
4th October 2016, 22:01
I have pretty serious doubts anyone really wants to trigger a nuclear war.

Conventional is a different story. Considering the recent U. S. strike on Syrian forces; and the seven or more bases they have opened in the country; that Syria intercepted U. S. - ISIS communications directing their attack; and Syrian Arab Army is now resolved to confront the U. S. military--any country directly attacking Syria triggers a mutual defense pact with Iran. In conventional terms, Iran can reduce all 35 or so American bases in the mideast to dust in about half an hour.

Most of the American weapons are obsolete or ineffective, and the national power grid is certainly very vulnerable. Heck, just a few days ago, heavy rain washed out the soil under one of the main highways going to the military base (one used by a fair number of off base soldiers).

This is aside from anything Russia would do; bear in mind the military's own scenarios predict that a conventional confrontation with them would result in annihilation of the U. S. military.

They have one strength: Air Force bombing someone with no significant air defense. The rest of it is a "paper tiger".

TargeT
5th October 2016, 15:05
Russian state newspapers predict ‘direct military conflict’ with US as it compares Syria stalemate to Cuban missile crisis
'Third World War' fears have been voiced by the newspapers over the growing tensions between the USA and Syria
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1913898/russian-state-newspapers-predict-direct-military-conflict-with-us-as-it-compares-syria-stalemate-to-cuban-missile-crisis/

Sueanne47
5th October 2016, 15:49
Iran can reduce all 35 or so American bases in the mideast to dust in about half an hour

Which is precisely why the US & Saudi Arabia are so determined to keep up the pressure. There is so much testosterone in the middle east...its inevitable something very serious will happen one of these days, *hopefully* nuclear weapons wont be used.

shaberon
5th October 2016, 17:48
Eep...so the White House, opposed to directly striking Syrian forces...cannot control the CIA, which it's supposed to. Due to the eminent "fall of Aleppo", the CIA want to defy: the White House, the Congress, the lack of a U. N. mandate, and the illegality of any Americans in Syria...to directly attack the Syrians, in order to prevent them from cleansing their own city, since apparently providing the proxies with missile launchers hasn't helped them much.

If they start pulling triggers themselves, i. e. the seven new American bases in Syria, the 200 drones filling up Incirlik, or from any other of those ships, bases, or other assets...well, they might wind up roasted in about thirty minutes. Talk about being "part of the problem"!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/10/04/obama-administration-considering-strikes-on-assad-again/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Post is of course full of inaccurate propaganda, but includes the tasty little tidbit confessing to (no longer) covert strikes that nobody approves of.

xion
5th October 2016, 19:14
This fits nicely in this narrative:

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Sueanne47
5th October 2016, 19:39
He is one of many under the delta nazi mind control programme, 'subjects are devoid of fear, and very systematic in carrying out their assignment.'

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm

shaberon
6th October 2016, 16:02
Ironically, an Israeli F-16's engines caught fire after a pass at the hapless Gaza.

Elsewhere in the air, US and Turkish Air Forces are starting to kill 25-60 Syrian civilians per go round, with the US demolishing all the bridges on the Euphrates so the Syrian Army can't advance towards Raqqa, the nest of ISIS.

So Russia just pretty much gave them the tip that if they do bomb Syrian Army again, they may expect a taste of the Russian air defense system. That's something the US hasn't encountered in a long time: someone shooting back, particularly with equipment that can do the job. From what I recall, some of those missiles can make a right angle turn at Mach 5.

US coalition has been given plenty of chances to show how useful it is, and, after a year of Russian presence, I can't think of anything that bad the Russians did, likewise, can't think of a good thing from the US, after helping the Kurds at Kobani.

Daozen
6th October 2016, 16:09
Children rattling sabres to keep everyone scared. They are virtually actors.

Sueanne47
6th October 2016, 16:20
Children rattling sabres to keep everyone scared. They are virtually actors.

D*ick measuring more like...

shaberon
6th October 2016, 16:26
Haha well, that's kind of true, especially in terms of nuclear war/outright invasion of US.

In the smaller, conventional conflicts, it's getting a lot closer to some American forces kissing the ground, at the hands of Russia, Syria, Iraq, maybe others.

ozmirage
6th October 2016, 18:35
The secret rule of all government is to continually grow, which means to find excuses to spend more, tax more, and deny liberty - for the good of the people.
(No government wants static or shrinking budgets - loss of jobs, positions, and power!)
. . .
All governments want two things: your obedience and your wealth. Deny either, and it becomes wroth.
. . .
Fomenting wars is "good for business," for governments -and- for usurers who lend the money / extend credit for such noble purposes. [Sarcasm flag off]
Plus, any opposition can be demonized as an enemy of the people.

Althena
6th October 2016, 20:58
The secret rule of all government is to continually grow, which means to find excuses to spend more, tax more, and deny liberty - for the good of the people.
(No government wants static or shrinking budgets - loss of jobs, positions, and power!)
. . .
All governments want two things: your obedience and your wealth. Deny either, and it becomes wroth.
. . .
Fomenting wars is "good for business," for governments -and- for usurers who lend the money / extend credit for such noble purposes. [Sarcasm flag off]
Plus, any opposition can be demonized as an enemy of the people.

There's nothing that stimulates the economy like a good old war. Sad but true.

shaberon
28th November 2016, 23:35
Kerry is out there rattling sabers as much as he can now--record number of calls going from U. S. State Dept. to Russian ministers.

But, this is how it's winding down. Egypt has mostly ditched the Saudi coalition and switched to Syrian side. Only a tiny sliver of Aleppo is left in the wrong hands, and that is vanishing fast. Damascus (countryside) is almost fully retaken. After these, it's just some mop-up in the provinces and along the borders. If Turkey decides to stand in the fire, let them.

I still believe that Syria will dust itself off and keep rolling, whereas it will be the Gulf monarchies who reap dissolution (no need of a Soros-funded uprising for that).

rgray222
29th November 2016, 02:32
If you let fear of death dominate your life you will be miserable and think of nothing else, death and life are only different (albeit it very similar) steps in the same process.

“Like the child being born, we have no choice but to yield ourselves to the unknown.” You can choose to view your body and your contribution to this world as an honor. We have had the privilege of living; so, let’s be grateful and accept death when it eventually comes.....Norman Van Rooy

Mecklenburger
14th January 2017, 15:04
The fact is, President Putin and his political parties may once have been Communists, but they have shifted their ground since 1991. Having admitted the failure of Communism, they have embraced a totalitarian ideology known as Eurasianism.

The roots of Eurasianism extend back to Czarist emigrés interacting with French and German Fascists between the wars. Its most recent leading exponent has been the political theorist Aleksandre Dugin (b.1962) whose ideas have had a major influence of Kremlin thinking.

Dugin's core idea is that Western liberalism is an assault on the traditional hierarchical organization of the world. It must be overthrown, and can only be re-imposed by National Socialist methods. Therefore his version of Eurasianism is a combination of the best points of Communism with the major contribution coming from Nazism. The third and fourth bases are Traditionalism and Ecologism.

The doctrine is opposed to free enterprise although the Marxist commitment to technological progress is dropped to appeal to environmentalists opposed to industrialism and modernity. Religious freedom is preached although the Christianity of President Putin is based on the dogma of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The aim is a consistent "fascist Fascism" (the adjective here being necessary to emphasize that it is not racist). Also adopted from Nazism are ideas about the origins of the Aryan race of technologically and cerebrally advanced beings at the poles. These would be the forces which ushered Admiral Byrd out of Antarctica in March 1947 and with which a pact may have already been forged.

If as has been proposed, President Putin accepts the vacant chair of Royal Czar this year, his powers would be the equivalent of those of Hitler at his peak, and ruling a Federation aiming for a Greater Russia with major re-annexations from the Channel to the Bering Straits. The principal acquisitions would be Germany and the Ukraine.