We live in a completely fake world

[Sueanne47]

This video says it all ~ synthetic reality, but they cant take our soul..

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[sunwings]

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[Sueanne47]

Thanks Sunwings, the 2nd one upset me with the animal farming, but the message is SO profound.

Can we stop this hamster wheel I wonder? will it always be like this? we gotta start caring in the real world.. :heart:

This one could make anyone go vegan:

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[TargeT]

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Claim: 70% of grain goes to animals... Vegans & logical fallacies are just peas in a pod!

NOPE! at least 25% goes JUST to ethanol production (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jan/22/quarter-us-grain-biofuels-food) (fuel for cars, which is actually bad for cars.. haha)
https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/maps_and_graphs/2010/01/22/USGrainBiofuel.gif

Corn is a good example to work with:

Today’s corn crop is mainly used for biofuels (roughly 40 percent of U.S. corn is used for ethanol) and as animal feed (roughly 36 percent of U.S. corn, plus distillers grains left over from ethanol production, is fed to cattle, pigs and chickens). Much of the rest is exported. Only a tiny fraction of the national corn crop is directly used for food for Americans, much of that for high-fructose corn syrup.

It claims we are polluting and destroying the planet... NOPE!

We definitely do regionally make mistakes, but the earth don't give a ****! Look at the Exxon oil spill... the area recovered in less than a decade... Look at the Gulf of mexico oil spill.. that was only 6 years ago & the area is already naturally recovering (in fact, the dispersants we used to try and "fix" the problem were worse than the oil, which naturally leaks into the gulf all the time...the ecosystem knows how to handle it)

Next claim:
Millions of species are going extinct, time is running out before we are next.

Does this guy think the world is a static place? where does he think the dinosaurs went, or the dodo bird? more life is extinct now than lives on the planet.. this will always be the case, perfectly natural cycle.

40% chance of being diagnosed with cancer in your LIFE is the first accurate statistic I've heard him use... That is problematic, but we really don't have the cause pinned down (I have theories, and it's likely our own fault)

1 in every 3 americans die from heart disease (https://www.heart.org/idc/groups/ahamah-public/@wcm/@sop/@smd/documents/downloadable/ucm_470704.pdf), that's also very true.

he makes an ironic comment "humans used to see earth as the center of the universe, but now we see our self's as the center of the planet" and yet he keeps making claims like everything we do changes the planet for the worse... funny..

"the human race survived not because we are the fastest, strongest; but because we worked together".

Hmm.. I'd say the human race survived because we have an ability no other animals have, we can run long distance.. like.. SUPER long distance... we can run our prey to the point of death. We only worked together in small groups and tribes, not this insanity of millions of people shoved into a small space.

Interesting video, it gives no real suggestions on what to do & complains a lot.

I don't like these kinds of videos, I think they are emotionally robbing people and giving nothing back.




Thanks Sunwings, the 2nd one upset me with the animal farming, but the message is SO profound.

What was the message?

"Humans bad, do better?"

"we have to change"?

Videos like this offer no solutions & i have a funny feeling about them..


Can we stop this hamster wheel I wonder? will it always be like this? we gotta start caring in the real world.. :heart:

This one could make anyone go vegan:

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This guy obviously lives in a city & needs to get out more!

He says we raise animals for food, well yeah, we raise plants for food too.. & it IS because we need to, humans have to eat.

How can he drone on and on about how we don't treat all life as equal, that we think just because a thing is different, or works differently we are superior,,,,,,,,,,, and then be perfectly fine with killing plants for food... like is that not the most hypocritical thought process ever? (animals live different than humans, eating them = bad; Plants live different from humans, eating them = good).

BTW, heart disease & Obesity are plant based diseases ;) (sugar and carbs) so.... yeah. Oh and you have to eat meat for bio available proteins and most importantly healthy fats (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/sorry-vegans-eating-meat-and-cooking-food-is-how-humans-got-their-big-brains/2012/11/26/3d4d36de-326d-11e2-bb9b-288a310849ee_story.html); there are NO good replacements for these. Some people can handle an all veggie diet, most cannot. (http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarians-have-smaller-brains.html)

The delusional emotion based thinking is infuriating.

it's selective awareness at best.

he keeps saying we cannot co-exist with life on this planet.. I don't think this individual has ANY IDEA what nature is all about.. everything is killing everything else, either directly (prey/predator) or indirectly (food competition, prey animals can be pretty violent to eachother as well, especially when fighting over mating rights).

If we aren't killing other life, then we would be the EXCEPTION on this planet...

This guy has so many first world problems its amazing.
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These videos are all just long winded guilt trips with no solutions... But I guess people like to feel bad about themselves (for some reason) so it works?



Look to nature, follow what IS... these videos are frustrating to me, they seem so out of touch with reality.

[Sueanne47]

Maybe the guy lives in the city, and he's frustrated by the rat race and corporate government?

You must admit that he's right about people & mobile phones though, people (especially the young) are so switched off while staring at a screen that they are unaware of what's going on around them. And he is right about poorer people in africa and india being happy because they have each other...and they dont have big cars & mortgages. Some people in the west have become obsessed with greed, and they have to have things, only to rack up credit card debt.

In my life, very, very rarely have I ever met anyone that tells me how they truly feel, because they are busy, and they have to go some place else. So if you get that on a larger scale...you do get people disconnected. IME after all this time, its only Avalon I found where folk speak at length about things.

He said that if we have to connect through a screen then that's a good way...which is what we're doing! :biggrin1: all we have to do is connect with nature and each other and live healthily. (but I like a cream eclair now & then :rolleyes:)

[TargeT]

Maybe the guy lives in the city, and he's frustrated by the rat race and corporate government?

You must admit that he's right about people & mobile phones though, people (especially the young) are so switched off while staring at a screen that they are unaware of what's going on around them. And he is right about poorer people in africa and india being happy because they have each other...and they dont have big cars & mortgages. Some people in the west have become obsessed with greed, and they have to have things, only to rack up credit card debt.

Western culture is pretty toxic to "family values" AND happiness, I completely agree with you/him there.. But it's just western culture, a lot of other areas aren't as greed obsessed... but unfortunately to these "non-greed" cultures the "haves" of the western culture are very attractive.


In my life, very, very rarely have I ever met anyone that tells me how they truly feel, because they are busy, and they have to go some place else. So if you get that on a larger scale...you do get people disconnected. IME after all this time, its only Avalon I found where folk speak at length about things.

A lot of insecurity also, people's personal power is given to external sources so often we don't even trust our selves to have an opinion that is valid (even though it's just an opinion!), but yes, since moving here (USVI) I've seen how crazy the US48 is which I'm sure is similar to English lifestyle; but it is a choice (granted, a difficult one.. gong against your own culture is very difficult).

I speak at length in public (not as a public speaker, to friends, strangers.. anyone who will listen really.. haha, i can be quite chatty) as well, but it's difficult when interfacing with people who don't really spend time self educating. It's not always recieved


He said that if we have to connect through a screen then that's a good way...which is what we're doing! :biggrin1: all we have to do is connect with nature and each other and live healthily. (but I like a cream eclair now & then :rolleyes:)

Yeah, nature is not as appealing to the "instant gratification" society we live in, but that is a part of the western trap.. Look at media, movies for example.. everything "cool" is so blown out of proportion and sensationalized that we'll never see something similar in our lives, especially not in nature (even nature is unrealistically beautified). We have expectations completely ruined by "silver screen" examples. For instance: (I've seen a LOT of this lately) have you noticed how often five foot nothing women that look like a bunch of toothpicks in sacks of cloth are able to "take out" a 6'5" guy that probably weighs 250-260 (well over twice her weight) with one punch or a kick or something? I see that all the time & make sure to tell my young girls that what they are seeing is not reality and they should not try it...

Anyway, I haven't fleshed that thought out completely yet... but I think there's something there.

An eclair now and then fits in perfectly with "everything in moderation: nothing in excess" which, I think; is the most simplistic yet powerful life advice possible.

[betoobig]

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much love

[Rich]

Fakes yes, but we want to believe in it or we would not see it, here an excerpt from ACIM:

The world is nothing in itself. Your mind must give it meaning.
And what you behold upon it are your wishes, acted out so you can look on them and think them real.
Perhaps you think you did not make the world, but came unwillingly to what was made already,
hardly waiting for your thoughts to give it meaning.
Yet in truth you found exactly what you looked for when you came.

There is no world apart from what you wish,
and herein lies your ultimate release.
Change but your mind on what you want to see, and all the world must change accordingly.
Ideas leave not their source.
This central theme is often stated in the text, and must be borne in mind if
you would understand the lesson for today.
It is not pride which tells you that you made the world you see,
and that it changes as you change your mind.

[janette]

A rather childish comparison but the first that came into my head while watching this video was the animated movie 'horton hears a hoo' lol we really are all being deceived but the majority of the population is in slumber..or is it ? Maybe all those people walking along have a sliver of awareness that will continue to unfold in their brains until the light comes fully on. I guess most people here on avalon were like that at some point . We each have our own journey and we shall all reach our destination . Peace you guys 💖 u all

[Sueanne47]

I speak at length in public (not as a public speaker, to friends, strangers.. anyone who will listen really.. haha, i can be quite chatty) as well, but it's difficult when interfacing with people who don't really spend time self educating. It's not always recieved

Yes! I can fully relate to that, I have absolutely nobody to chat to in the real world about issues we talk about on PA.


Look at media, movies for example.. everything "cool" is so blown out of proportion and sensationalized that we'll never see something similar in our lives, especially not in nature (even nature is unrealistically beautified). We have expectations completely ruined by "silver screen" examples.

I like indiana jones, jane austin films, enemy of the state, old westerns & brigitte jones, oh and both films of the marigold hotel. The only sensational film I liked was Avatar and close encounters. Too many 'dark' films out now, dont like 'em!.



(I've seen a LOT of this lately) have you noticed how often five foot nothing women that look like a bunch of toothpicks in sacks of cloth are able to "take out" a 6'5" guy that probably weighs 250-260 (well over twice her weight) with one punch or a kick or something? I see that all the time & make sure to tell my young girls that what they are seeing is not reality and they should not try it...

There's groups of young girls in norwich city on a friday/sat. night walking about the clubs with mini skirts right up to their a**es, and they are walking on stilts (shoes too high). Even when its freezing in the winter they still have bare legs & short skirts brrrrr...


An eclair now and then fits in perfectly with "everything in moderation: nothing in excess" which, I think; is the most simplistic yet powerful life advice possible.

Right on bro :cool2:

[Jayren]

Everything an illusion, this is simply a density that we vibrate at not really solid at all but made to feel that way to experience it like this to make it more real ya dig? There are different frequencies that we can vibrate at to change from within ya dig? We can go higher and higher.

[greybeard]

If you can believe Quantum Physics and some Mystics --"non location" is a fact as is Emptiness (formless) condenses into matter and then reverts to formless.
Nisargadatta said the world including the people/everything in it,, is a mirage
Ramana Maharshi quote "Neither creation nor dissolution happened"

Seems that the world pulses in and out of existence several time a second--known as Spanda in ancient literature.

The cosmic dance, Indras dream, play of consciousness, other ways of putting it.
Is this so--I dont know.

Ch

[thunder24]

how many of us want to philosophy on how its fake or go out and experience how its real...I find the majority here want to talk about it instead of experience the "fakeness"....

[greybeard]

how many of us want to philosophy on how its fake or go out and experience how its real...I find the majority here want to talk about it instead of experience the "fakeness"....

Oh yes you have to do the work, put in the time, to distinguish truth from falsehood.
Truth Vs Falsehood is written about by the late Dr David Hawkins

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Truth-Vs-Falsehood-Tell-Difference/dp/097150072X

Ch

[joeecho]

If there is a fake world then the assumption is that there is a real world to experience. What would that look like and is one sure there is one to be had? What one would perceive as real another may perceive its fake-ness. What if one woke up tomorrow and the world was 'perfect'? Would that raise any question about it or would the case be closed?

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Many of the videos I see here point out judgements of others while neglecting their own. Is it possible that they are not as aware as they think they are on the subject? Having said that, if these videos get people thinking independently for themselves then there is some worth to them.

[greybeard]

In order to experience there has to be the opposites--
Without the these to compare, then happy would have no reality without sadness to compare with..
This applies to everything till enlightenment dawns--then its like a sliding scale--for example Unconditional love--all the way down to lack of love.
Extreme heat down to lack of heat---rather than hot and cold.
It just a different way of using language but the perception is different--non judgmental.

Not possible in a world seen through duality perception to have love and light 100% of the time--that thought is naive and just not possible--here and now.

Ch

[Cidersomerset]

I've just posted this article on two other threads , then this one popped up...LOL

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Secret Billionaires Think We’re Trapped Inside a Video Game - as I have
been contending all these years. But what is THEIR agenda for saying so?

By David on 7 October 2016 GMT

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Are We All Trapped Inside a Video Game?

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Published on 6 Oct 2016
Two billionaires think we're all living inside a video game simulation and are
secretly working with scientists in a desperate attempt to help humanity break out.

[TargeT]

Pretty good discussion on the possibility of us being in a simulation on this thread:

Strange Computer Code Discovered Concealed In Superstring Equations (Do we live in a Matrix?) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73623-Strange-Computer-Code-Discovered-Concealed-In-Superstring-Equations--Do-we-live-in-a-Matrix--)

There's certainly a strong case for it.

[greybeard]

Part of Cidersomerset's Post
Published on 6 Oct 2016
Two billionaires think we're all living inside a video game simulation and are
secretly working with scientists in a desperate attempt to help humanity break out.

Its not anything like a video game
Its not set up, controlled, from outside

Mystics since the beginning of time and current ones like Mooji have pointed to the Truth--but most are not inclined to investigate deeply within where the Truth lies.
Its been called "The Play of Consciousness, The Cosmic Dance" amongst other things.

Ch

[Sueanne47]

Sorry Cidersomerset! didnt know that :doh: sometimes I'm pushed for time & dont look.

We can get too much down the fake world/WW3/armageddon rabbit hole, then we get depressed. This music lifts ya back up again ~

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[joeecho]

The land one stands on is made of the same as that which stands.

Spirit has no where to stand but on that which it believes it stands on.

[greybeard]

There is only one energy, it manifests in different densities, different frequencies---all atoms in movement--99% empty space in each one.
All going about their business in unison with the whole.

The wave subsides into the Ocean.

I am not different in any way--except appearance--Gold is formed into different objects but unmistakably gold.
So the world is illusion, a mirage.
Its meant to seem real in the same way that a good film can trigger all kinds of emotions.

The mind has a hard time distinguishing real from imagined--the rope looks like a snake in the dark.
Scared me half to death.
We live through our thoughts--perception--nothing is more real than a thought we claim is ours.

Ch

[sigma6]

If you can believe Quantum Physics and some Mystics --"non location" is a fact as is Emptiness (formless) condenses into matter and then reverts to formless.
Nisargadatta said the world including the people/everything in it,, is a mirage
Ramana Maharshi quote "Neither creation nor dissolution happened"

Seems that the world pulses in and out of existence several time a second--known as Spanda in ancient literature.

The cosmic dance, Indras dream, play of consciousness, other ways of putting it.
Is this so--I dont know.

Ch

I think Nassim Haramein would tend to agree with you... I have heard him pretty much describe the same thing according to his quantum interpretation in the video called "Black Whole"... material reality is NOT as material as agenda based "materialists" would have us believe... even Einstein took this position... reality from this perspective appears to be some kind of information based hologram... apparently the ancients knew... this understanding was the basis of all the various religions, what you call "formlessness" or "nothingness" (another brilliant mistranslation, probably on purpose, I'm starting to believe now...) is just a poor English translation of the vacuum, the other 99.99999999 percent of the atom... the part never discussed in materialist based universities... aka the non-material, or what the ancients called the spiritual realm... all the science is there now...

mankind has finally succeeded in developing a scientific model of what was expressed in spiritual philosophies since the beginning of recorded history... no faith required... o.O! (just a little education... but it seems we have run of time and money to 'afford' to do even this... or is this too just another self imposed illusion? :D

[greybeard]

If you can believe Quantum Physics and some Mystics --"non location" is a fact as is Emptiness (formless) condenses into matter and then reverts to formless.
Nisargadatta said the world including the people/everything in it,, is a mirage
Ramana Maharshi quote "Neither creation nor dissolution happened"

Seems that the world pulses in and out of existence several time a second--known as Spanda in ancient literature.

The cosmic dance, Indras dream, play of consciousness, other ways of putting it.
Is this so--I dont know.

Ch

I think Nassim Haramein would tend to agree with you... I have heard him pretty much describe the same thing according to his quantum interpretation in the video called "Black Whole"... material reality is NOT as material as agenda based "materialists" would have us believe... even Einstein took this position... reality from this perspective appears to be some kind of information based hologram... apparently the ancients knew... this understanding was the basis of all the various religions, what you call "formlessness" or "nothingness" (another brilliant mistranslation, probably on purpose, I'm starting to believe now...) is just a poor English translation of the vacuum, the other 99.99999999 percent of the atom... the part never discussed in materialist based universities... aka the non-material, or what the ancients called the spiritual realm... all the science is there now...

mankind has finally succeeded in developing a scientific model of what was expressed in spiritual philosophies since the beginning of recorded history... no faith required... o.O! (just a little education... but it seems we have run of time and money to 'afford' to do even this... or is this too just another self imposed illusion? :D

The vacuum--emptiness--nothing--formless call it what you will, has vast intelligence and unlimited potential.
All this is beyond human comprehension.

If you take the formation of the baby in the womb.
Countless atoms all only 1% solid all co-operating with each other to form one body.
A nose does not appear on the tummy.

Even then this is only the temporary abode of --the in-dweller (Spirit)

So the intelligence is in the formless--which becomes form.
Everything without exception comes from this.

In old terms--"There is no where God is not"

I appreciate Nassim Haramein's take on most things.

Ch

[betoobig]

My love ain´t fake
that helps me see where i go in this fake reality.
sooo..... much love

[sunwings]

This is a master piece. If you have not read it take the time to read it now. If you have read it take time to read it again!
GEORGE CARLIN

Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent...and so very appropriate.
A Message by George Carlin:
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete...
Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. An embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
If you don't send this to other people....Who will know?
George Carlin

[Innocent Warrior]

Here’s the technology.

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Think of the implications of the quantum computers and the parallel realities. There’s no denying what the quantum computer can do, they’ve told us. Also, computers run programs and we need only look around us to see the program being run.

The Mandela effect may actually be evidence that we are living in a controlled reality, a matrix. The manifested physical world must reflect our belief system/perception, Lipton’s Biology of Belief has shown us exactly how that works, yet we have begun to notice things in the manifest world that doesn’t reflect our beliefs, our memories (we're waking up). There’s effectively a break in the system, control over the manifested world has been lost, looks like long ago.

The way I see it, there’s only one way we can get it back and that’s to go quantum. Think of the singularity in the black hole at the end of the movie Interstellar and how that was possible and how that path was paved. Here’s that scene on the quantifiable connection.

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We have to go beyond space and time, from outside it we can take back the reigns of our creative power. The only way out is up and LOVE will raise us to where we must be, by necessity.

Our minds are the fabric of the matrix, the veil through which we perceive, it’s like an opaque black blindfold and to thin it we must learn to see through the veil despite the darkness of the opaque cloth. The aim is not to dissolve it, it is to transcend it, to see through it and render it as if it is no longer there, to effectively suspend it from play in the process of manifesting our physical world. We must always have the choice, it will not dissolve, we have to adapt.

LOVE is the solution, and everywhere that will lead us, if we can’t do that then we haven't earned the responsibility of steering the immense creative power we posses. And we're not alone.

[betoobig]

I missed you Rachel. As usual, you nailed it.
We are quantum transmitors so we catch with awareness, day by day, and reléase love....and the deal is done.
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[Innocent Warrior]

:hug:


I missed you Rachel. As usual, you nailed it.
We are quantum transmitors so we catch with awareness, day by day, and reléase love....and the deal is done.
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This song is perfect. :)

When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object it is only a matter of time before it is seen that no object is immovable. And it will appear miraculous, the ultimate in magical acts, because the Universe is magical.

Diamonds are forged under great pressure and heat...we came here to be as diamonds.

:heart:

[Innocent Warrior]

If you can believe Quantum Physics and some Mystics --"non location" is a fact as is Emptiness (formless) condenses into matter and then reverts to formless.
Nisargadatta said the world including the people/everything in it,, is a mirage
Ramana Maharshi quote "Neither creation nor dissolution happened"

Seems that the world pulses in and out of existence several time a second--known as Spanda in ancient literature.

The cosmic dance, Indras dream, play of consciousness, other ways of putting it.
Is this so--I dont know.

Ch

It is so. We dance with the universe but we must allow it to lead, not our minds.

[Sueanne47]

Thanks Sunwings how true!! I love George Carlin.

Lets face it, nothing in the world would be fake if *only* we could get the non thinkers to think!

It baffles me the amount of people I bump into that are not interested in learning anything, dont want to investigate anything, not the least bit interested in politics, the world, history........NOTHING, oh but when strictly come dancing (or dancing with the stars) is on TV, no one can interrupt while they are watching it.....VERY STRANGE. I just dont get it. I had to suffer the X factor for years, until my daughter got her own TV in her bedroom.

BTW ~ X factor mind control: GqCL-qU3VX8

Lady Gaga has unclean spirits following her and watching her, she cant break free from it : KLd_ppIjIn0

[greybeard]

Politics, Media and "you" and what "you" seem to think---your opinion, is part of the illusion.
Think and investigate throughly---the seemingly independent you/me all part of the "fake world"
Science is catching up with the mystics as pointed to in posts on this thread.


This translated from ancient text. Bagavad Gita
"God wrote the play
God is the director of the play
God is the actor in the play.
God is the witness of the play"

The famous scientist Einstein said that " Matter is condensed emptiness and reverts to emptiness" The formless becomes manifest and the manifest reverts to formless.

Took me long enough to lift my head from the drama to get this.
I just try to save the seeming other "time"

Ch

[Sueanne47]

I just went into the large empty church here, I sat and watched the flickering candles in silence. A voice came into my head and said "Peace child ~ let not your soul be troubled." I came out feeling renewed knowing God is my shield in all that I do. I prayed for the world.....

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[greybeard]

When you can stand back and wear the world like a loose garment--what is there to worry about?

What were you before you arrived in this body?
Nasargadatta asked this question of people who were locked into being their personality and all that goes with seeming to be an individual person.

The answers is you are the "Unborn" you have always been, you are eternal.
No beginning no end to you.

The world of illusion seems very real--it is supposed to --so does a good film, it terrify you if its a horror movie--it can fill you with love and tears if its a romance.
Its all your experience and all unreal--at least relatively.

The finger gets cut it bleeds --but you leave this body ,when its time to, without a cut or mark on you--you exit exactly as you arrived--perfect.

Enjoy the play but know it to be so, temporary

Find out what you are beyond the little self--the impostor.
That knowing is called Self realization or Enlightenment.

Ch

[Rich]

There are many theories, someone said humans are actually advanced robots from an Alien race.
Like the UFO's the Aliens use are conscious organic beings as described by Bashar.
Eventually we will create stuff like this too and there will be no difference between a human and a machine.

[bogeyman]

Its all about perception some are more sensitive than others, the world is based upon wrong lines of thought, wrong beliefs, wrong systems of doing things, and chaos, yet your perception can see through all this if you pay attention enough.

[Rich]

I believe so too Bogeyman, don't think God would create suffering, if he did he would not be Love.

[greybeard]

The suffering is down to ego.
I agree that that the way we perceive is very important---the cloud can be seen to have a silver lining--but not always.

Non duality teaches that life happens spontaneously but not to a person--there is no separate person separate from life.

Now here is the paradox--things happen spontaneously but the Self is not changed hurt in any way--the temporary receptacle called the body is, that includes the human mind and emotions associated with the me.

The separate me is the illusion.

At the level of the atom is 99.9$ emptiness--the emptiness is supremely intelligent.
Einstein said Matter is condensed emptiness--thats it.

What you are is formless--it condenses into a body then leaves on the death of the body.

You cant see the body the way it is --its not solid at all-- how could it be--composed of atoms its 99.9% empty.

God-the Absolute has organized things this way to make the cosmic play seem very
real.


Make what you will of this post --I'm not saying I'm correct in my assumptions.

Chris

[Sueanne47]

Its all about perception some are more sensitive than others, the world is based upon wrong lines of thought, wrong beliefs, wrong systems of doing things, and chaos, yet your perception can see through all this if you pay attention enough.


I think David Icke's perception on the ruling class is brilliant. If only everyone could think like that..

Terry my husband said tonight "Clinton aint so bad" I try to inform him otherwise but he has a closed mind...and stays silent.

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