WW3 may be imminent

[Sueanne47]

*Hate to be a doom merchant here* but the Syrian war is now critical and the reckless, loonatic mind controlled US government idiots that should never be in power are not backing off from Russia...and are itching to press the red button.

Us in europe and the Uk are in the firing line as well as America ~ isnt anyone scared????!!!!!! the fact that any day we could be vaporised?? this is a very serious situation! :heart:

A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept.

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[betoobig]

they are preparing for the worst but expecting the best!
American goberment is completly mad. Wars have been allways set up. Is Putin in the "team" that organizes this? dont think so. I guess it is all to let the world know he is ready forr whatever.
As light increses so does darkness.
Please do not fear and hold your highest visión for mother earth, thus all of us.
Much love

[Althena]

http://www.activistpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/russia-us-war.jpg

By Daisy Luther

How many more indicators do we need to see to realize that a major confrontation between Russia and the West is approaching rapidly? Is World War III upon us? Because it’s certainly starting to look that way, and I am far from the only person saying it. The most alarming thing about it is that WWIII is most likely to involve nuclear weapons, which brings the destruction to a level that threatens the very existence of humanity.

Steve Rosenberg, Russia correspondent for the BBC tweets constantly about the situation in Russia. To quote him:

When 1 Russian paper talks about a war between US & Russia, that’s worrying. When 2 papers do it, it’s very worrying.

In no particular order, here are 8 warning signs that should grab your attention right now.

#1 The Epic Civilian Drill

This one worries the daylights out of me. Russia is currently conducting a drill that involves more than 40 million people and scenarios will cover biological, chemical, and nuclear emergencies.

The huge four-day “civil defence” drill has set alarm bells ringing in Washington and London, with tensions already high over disagreements in Syria.

Following a breakdown in communication between the USA and Russia, the Kremlin has now organised the huge emergency practice drill – either as a show of force or something more sinister.


The drill will prepare Russian citizens for “large natural and man-made disasters”, according to the country’s Ministry for Civil Defence, Emergencies and Elimination of Consequences of Natural Disaster.
The ministry revealed 40 million civilians, 200,000 emergency rescuers and 50,000 units of equipment are involved in the war game, which is running from October 4 to October 7.

A spokesman said in a statement: “The main goal of the drill is to practice organisation of management during civil defence events and emergency and fire management, to check preparedness of management bodies and forces of civil defence on all levels to respond to natural and man-made disasters and to take civil defence measures.” (source)

Can you hear me now? An activity on that level, with 40 million civilians? Are you really convinced that is a drill? The logistics alone make me wonder if action is about to be taken.

#2 The Deputy Commander of NATO and a US Admiral are worried

Back in May the former deputy commander of NATO, General Sir Alexander Richard Shirreff, warned about a major confrontation between Russia and the West. US Admiral James Stavridis, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe, echoed that view saying:

Under President Putin, Russia has charted a dangerous course that, if it is allowed to continue, may lead inexorably to a clash with Nato. And that will mean a war that could so easily go nuclear. (source)

#3 Peace talks about a cease-fire in Syria have broken down

Talks between Washington and Moscow that aimed to broker a peaceful solution in Syria broke down completely last week.

The rift between the U.S. and Russia deepened Monday as the Obama administration quit talks over the failed cease-fire in Syria, saying Moscow’s role in the bombardment of Aleppo left nothing more to discuss.

The decision ends for now prospects for a truce and threatens to send the long war in a perilous new direction and makes hopes for a political settlement more distant. (source)

#4 Russia is no longer participating in a nuclear disarmament agreement that has lasted since 2000

Russia has backed out of a deal to convert 34 tonnes of weapons grade plutonium into nuclear fuel each year.

Russia has just withdrawn from its agreement to dispose of enough weapons-grade plutonium to make 17,000 nuclear warheads.

And…they’re blaming the change of heart on the US.

In the year 2000 Russia and the United States agreed to end the arms race and each turn 34 metric tons of weapons-grade plutonium into reactor fuel every year. The agreement was re-affirmed in 2010.

In a statement, Russian President Vladimir Putin accused the United states of creating “a threat to strategic stability, as a result of unfriendly actions towards Russia.” (source)

#5 Russia is gearing up in Syria

It was reported that Russia has positioned a battery of S300 in Syria.

The specific type is said to be S-300VM, also known as Antey-2500. These are specially designed for defending against ballistic- and cruise missiles. The system will be stationed near Tartus harbor and will protect the Syrian east coast as well as the Russian fleet in the eastern Mediterranean. These also have good capabilities against attacking planes. A volley cruise missile attack by the U.S. against the Syrian and Russian airports and air forces in Syria, discussed in various U.S. papers as the start of a “no-fly zone” war, will be severely hampered by this. (source)

TASS, the Russian news agency confirmed this yesterday:

MOSCOW, October 4. /TASS/. One battery of the air defense system S-300 will provide protection for the Russian Navy’s logistic facility in Tartus and Russian ships off Syria’s yshores, Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov told the media on Tuesday.

“It is true that one battery of the S-300 air defense systems has been delivered to Syria. It is to provide protection for the naval logistics facility in Tartus and the Russian Navy’s task force,” Konashenkov said. (source)

#6 Four different European militaries have had to head off Russian bombers

A document released by the French Ministry of defense states that on September 22nd FOUR European countries scrambled fighter jets to head off two Russian Blackjack bombers. The bombers headed across the top of Scotland from Norway, before skirting Ireland’s west coast towards France and Spain. Norway, the UK, France and Spain all sent up fighters to intercept the jets.

According to the statement, the two bombers were first detected by Norway, which scrambled two F-16 jets to accompany them to the north of Scotland – where they were then intercepted by RAF Typhoon aircraft.

French Rafale fighter planes then picked up the bombers after they skirted Ireland’s west coast, before Spain sent two F-18 jets to intercept the Russian planes north of Bilbao. (source)

#7 President Obama seems to be deliberately trying to provoke Putin

This conflict is not just about Russia. Our own president has engaged in a peeing contest and has been every bit as provocative – possibly even more so. Obama has put boots on the ground in Syria, aiding the rebels who want to overthrow the current government of a sovereign nation.

You CANNOT just show up in another country and start calling the shots because you don’t like the way they do things.

Is this just sabre-rattling or does Obama really think he has the right to invade a foreign country, shoot down the aircraft of that country, and also shoot down the aircraft of an invited guest in that country?

Does he really think he would get away with it?

Is he deliberately trying to provoke other world leaders?

Does Obama actually want a war? Because this is how you get a war.

Is he totally insane?

Does he really think Vladimir Putin will sit back and say okay, fair enough, Barack, no biggie?

And getting into a p*ssing contest with Russia? What is he thinking?

Provoking Putin takes things to a whole new level. It puts millions more lives at risk, because what is currently a civil war could easily escalate into an international conflict with two superpowers on different sides. (source)

#8 Putin is provoking right back

Recently, Russia stationed troops a mere 50 miles from the US border in Alaska.

Russia has been building its forces in the Arctic due to the natural resources present in the region but the latest move takes things to a whole new level. The forces are scheduled to be in place in less than two years time.

A defense meeting on Tuesday saw Sergei Shoigu, the Russian defence Minister admit that the decision to garrison troops in the area was actually made in 2015 and he confirmed the plans to push ahead with the formation of the Coastal defense division by 2018. The force will protect the coast from the Arctic in the north to the Primary Territory in the south.

It is fair to assume that the targets they had in 1983 will be the same targets as they have in 2018. They are strategic United States facilities that if nonoperational would hobble the United States defense capacity. (source)

Are you ready for this?

Be sure you’re prepped with emergency food, water, and other vital supplies, because when this goes downhill, it will gather speed in a hurry.

We are living in very troubling times and if we’re not careful the time to prepare for what lies ahead will have passed. We need to think very carefully about the preparations we make for the welfare of our family. Here are some resources you may find useful:

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[greybeard]

You have choice Sueanne you can have fear or not.
Either way it will make no difference--Why worry about something you can do nothing about.
When you fully believe that you are not the body but that you are "spirit"having a human experience--where is the problem?

Some day we all leave this world.
We are born, we die or rather the body does.
We have probably had past lives.
We died then and here we are again.

Why worry and spoil your moment.?

Chris

[TargeT]

A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept.


The russian "Bear" (Tupolev Tu-95) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95) bomber COULD carry a nuclear device. do we know for sure it was?

those planes are ancient, first built in 1952... they are easy to intercept, easy to spot on radar, but they can carry big payloads.. the russian airforce regularly flys exactly like this, when I was in alaska I contracted for the airforce for a bit on the radar systems that would catch these guys coming in to skim our air space, every year.

So I wouldn't stress too much because of that maneuver..

[Althena]

Thanks for merging the threads Paul, I should've looked before posting.

[Cardillac]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

"the hope for the world will emerge out of Russia"- venerable pschic Edgar Cayce

Larry

[Sueanne47]

Thanks folks! I wondered how you was all feeling right now, Althena ~ you are a star with all that info, keep it up!

At least we have the Nato countries looking out for us Target, I dont like the sound of 'big payloads' tho'!

Chris ~ you are fearless!! :muscle::star:

GROUP HUG :grouphug: :heart:

[greybeard]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

"the hope for the world will emerge out of Russia"- venerable pschic Edgar Cayce

Larry

Edgar Cayce was amazing---no record of him ever being inaccurate in his diagnosis or suggested treatment.
Who knows he may be right about the hope of the world emerging out of Russia.

Ch

[TargeT]

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;


They did that every single year in alaska.. they would literally violate our air space, we would scramble F22's... EVERY year.

& no one else has Bear bombers, they are very distinctive and easy to spot:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150129113231-uk-typhoon-russian-bear-bomber-super-169.jpg

I'm about 85% certain it was russia that did this.

[ExomatrixTV]

~not sure if this is true ... we will find out soon enough !

iJidWID_Og0

[Aurelius]

*Hate to be a doom merchant here* but the Syrian war is now critical and the reckless, loonatic mind controlled US government idiots that should never be in power are not backing off from Russia...and are itching to press the red button.

Us in europe and the Uk are in the firing line as well as America ~ isnt anyone scared????!!!!!! the fact that any day we could be vaporised?? this is a very serious situation! :heart:

A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept.



technology exists to deal with those that are stirring things up behind the scenes & causing these issues (the troublemakers). i am 100% certain of this. if things escalate beyond a particular point, the technology may be used, it will target their minds directly and it will make them become very peaceful people. it doesn't make a difference where the troublemakers are located on this planet.

to be honest i don't know why the tech hasn't been used already. though it has been demonstrated publicly, perhaps multiple times (you need to know what to look for). the capability is there and it is ready to be used.

i'm fairly certain (though not 100% sure) the Russians have this tech / capability. i'm do not think (though not 100% sure) the Americans have this tech / capability.

[Sueanne47]

i'm doubtful (though not 100% sure) the Americans do not have this tech / capability. Your dead right, they dont have any capability!, is it some kind of extraterrestrial mind control?

[Sueanne47]

Update 3 hours ago Israeli news live

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[Kari Lynn]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

Larry

Wonder why I always feel like the baby that got thrown out with the bath water just because I'm an American.
Feel like I'm being piled on the same big heap as all other Americans along with my government and military, just cuz I'm American. Kind of depressing.

[Daozen]

Nothing will happen, nothing ever does. Larry King's '4 Bob's' interview shows UFOs shutting down nuclear facilities. So it's either UFO's, angels or dumb luck that stops WWIII from happening.

[bearcow]

well at least i wont have to pay my car insurance


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ECUtkv2qV8

[pyrangello]

None of this should be happening, to stabilize the region we in my opinion should be arming the Kurd's in northern Iraq and Jordan and King Abdullah. They are doing the fight now with antiquated weapons, at least for the sake of stability thru strength and for the assistance of the refugees that really need the help . The ISIS thing has me so skeptical on whos promoting this and did it go rogue. Seems to be the only people who want to have a fight are those in charge. Why don't we just set up a small island somewhere and drop ship all the leaders involved until there is an SOS in the sand.

I can say this, the American people do not want another war, I'm sure the Syrian people would be happy for the bombing to stop,and I have no issue with the russian people , or the jews or the brits or anybody in that region. I do understand that there are bad guys in the world and they have to be dealt with but why we can't all just join together for a common goal in this so called advanced world of ours, or are we really that advanced. This entire situation needs a harness on it and backed down now. There was a cease fire what happened to that, oh that's right the food/relief trucks were bombed by our advanced intelligence.

My gut feeling is the banking industry is on the ropes so extreme now that this is the last play to stop a mega collapse, lets start a war, lets pick a fight, lets roll humanity back another 50 years . Really? I ran into a guy years ago whose father worked for the Kennedy administration during Vietnam. This guy was a kid then said his dad said the one guy in charge of bombing during the war who is passed now would open a map of Vietnam on a certain day and point to areas and say lets bomb here , here and here? Why, I don't know but lets see what happens. OMG and the kid who told me this story is a doctor now. Thats how advanced we are really?

I think all of us populations should vote on 1 referendum , when countries can't get along, its time to go to the island and let us all know your done because us as a general population of the world don't want to play in your games anymore. Its time to look ahead for the betterment of all of us and the earth and direct our energies towards coming together, conservation, healthy living, and living smarter not harder .Not in the toilet anymore as so many leaders want to keep taking us. And as for a new world order, I'd like to know what's the matter with visiting another country to learn and enjoy the customs, foods, and culture that make each one individual . I think what the powers that be don't realize is that the general population of the world has had enough of this war crap period.

[lucidity]

~not sure if this is true ... we will find out soon enough !

iJidWID_Og0

My prediction accuracy is running at 100%...
even after 20+ predictions. (seriously!)

WW3 will not start on Oct 8, or 9th, or in October.
Would you like to bet on it ?

I am offering 100:1 odds.

I will create 1000 bucks worth of disaster insurance via my paypal account.
If ww3 starts in October, this insurance automatically pays out 1000 bucks.
The insurance costs, 10 bucks.
(1 buck equals 1 US dollar, 1 canadian collar, 1 euro or 1 UK pound)

So 100:1 odds. Those are great odds if WW3 is likely, right ?

So my question is: Do you _really_ think WW3 will start in October ?

If the answer is yes,
I'll be happy to sell you 1000 bucks of disaster insurance... just PM me.

[TargeT]

So my question is: Do you _really_ think WW3 will start in October ?


Funny that it only counts as a "world war" if the "super powers" are fighting each other... to be quite honest, I don't know that there is a period in my life longer than 3 years that some major military action hasn't been taking place.. and lately it's had dozens of countries involved in one way or another...

I also see no indication that WW3 will start in october. none at all.... unless by "start" they mean some build up **** that eventually, hundreds of years of hindsight later can be called out as "the start".


This just showed up:
http://jpupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/putinbanner1-347x281.jpg

good sign?
https://dudo6el28sqqp.cloudfront.net/gothamistgallery/2016/10/6/144c76190100616_putin3-jpg.jpeg

Putin banner mysteriously appears on Manhattan Bridge (http://nypost.com/2016/10/06/putin-banner-mysteriously-appears-on-manhattan-bridge/)

[Sueanne47]

Wonder why I always feel like the baby that got thrown out with the bath water just because I'm an American.
Feel like I'm being piled on the same big heap as all other Americans along with my government and military, just cuz I'm American. Kind of depressing.

Absolutely not Kari Lynn!!!! :heart: I feel extremely sorry for you over there....its not your fault is it that your government has reckless people that are running things. David Cameron & Angela Merkel are equally reckless...all from the same melting pot.

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[Baby Steps]

we have to make our governments change course.

not because we are on the brink of ww3 but because this pack of xxxxx will not sit down together and agree a coherent strategy to stop this slaughter.

we as a species have to grow up and say that will not put up with this xxxx any more.

I marched against illegal uk agression in Syria, in london. lots of idealistic young people, but overall a small inconsequential demo, in a sea of apathy. We have to do better, really.

[Hervé]

Strange no one noticed that WW III was unofficially declared on 9-11-2001...

... via a "terrorist" false flag to strike war on the people.

[Aurelius]

i'm doubtful (though not 100% sure) the Americans do not have this tech / capability. Your dead right, they dont have any capability!, is it some kind of extraterrestrial mind control?

nothing to do with ET, ET tech, remote influencing (as generally understood) or any type of mind control (as generally understood), you just need to understand how human emotion works (technically) & then how to modify it.

[Baby Steps]

imagine we are just in a box car heading for the gas chambers....well let's make merry for our last hours on this earth!

we are all going to die, until then, wallowing in fear is so paralysing and non productive.

we might be caught in some alien chess game where the outcome was never in doubt, well, thats ok, and I am greatful to have walked the path with you!

notice how fear stops one from building, deciding, innovating, healing. what a useful tool for controllers

[Sueanne47]

Say prayers for us all ~

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[NeedleThreader]

Nothing will happen, nothing ever does. Larry King's '4 Bob's' interview shows UFOs shutting down nuclear facilities. So it's either UFO's, angels or dumb luck that stops WWIII from happening.

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[Althena]

Nothing will happen, nothing ever does. Larry King's '4 Bob's' interview shows UFOs shutting down nuclear facilities. So it's either UFO's, angels or dumb luck that stops WWIII from happening.

GhW9F0kR7oA

I agree, if the real powers that be (The Watchers) are truly watching they will never allow it to become.

[Rocky_Shorz]

If you ran the Fed, and only way to keep from change was by starting a war...

Obama for 4 more years?

Now that the world has seen the VPs, and the warmongers of GOP have spotted their man, could we see a delay that starts a new election?

[Sueanne47]

imagine we are just in a box car heading for the gas chambers....well let's make merry for our last hours on this earth!

we are all going to die, until then, wallowing in fear is so paralysing and non productive.

we might be caught in some alien chess game where the outcome was never in doubt, well, thats ok, and I am greatful to have walked the path with you!

notice how fear stops one from building, deciding, innovating, healing. what a useful tool for controllers

BabySteps ~ If London gets toasted, you can always come up here to Norfolk and stay.. that is only if Norfolk is still on the map..

[Althena]

If you ran the Fed, and only way to keep from change was by starting a war...

Obama for 4 more years?

Now that the world has seen the VPs, and the warmongers of GOP have spotted their man, could we see a delay that starts a new election?

By starting a war before the elections is the only way Obummer can and will stay in power.

[Sueanne47]

By starting a war before the elections is the only way Obummer can and will stay in power.

That's what I think will happen, hopefully he wont bring in Marshall law. I also think Killary will be exposed, Trey Gowdy recently spoke about Benghazi & Killary. Isnt it a great shame that HE wasnt running for president, he has great integrity.

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[Kari Lynn]

Wonder why I always feel like the baby that got thrown out with the bath water just because I'm an American.
Feel like I'm being piled on the same big heap as all other Americans along with my government and military, just cuz I'm American. Kind of depressing.

Absolutely not Kari Lynn!!!! :heart: I feel extremely sorry for you over there....its not your fault is it that your government has reckless people that are running things. David Cameron & Angela Merkel are equally reckless...all from the same melting pot.

34364

Thanks. I've been to a few forums and it's just felt that way too me lately. From people asking how we could be so stupid when Bush was elected twice (stolen ballot) to how we eat and are fat. Which I Won't get into here, although may be a good thread some where else. But needed the reassurance. Thanks.

From what I can see of not only US government and military heads, but other counties elite also, is that they are all seeming to push for confrontation and secrecy from its own citizens.
Perhaps we should find a way to get all the leaders, military,and heads of states on an Island by themselves and let them fight it out amongst them instead of us citizens being their pawns.

[ghostrider]

It is foretold Russia will attack America through the state of Alaska , and Canada will be dragged into the war ... by 2020 America will no longer be a super power, China will take that title ... I have been concerned for a long time, as the watchers say America will have two civil wars the second shortly after the first , the country will be divided into five sectors... every action America has done around the world , like a wrecking ball will come swinging back in our face ... reaping what was sown ...

[Wind]

"It is said that man's extremity is God's opportunity."

[Sueanne47]

From what I can see of not only US government and military heads, but other counties elite also, is that they are all seeming to push for confrontation and secrecy from its own citizens.

They have been trained to confront the public like that because its part of the plan to make you all turn on each other ~divide & rule, order out of chaos, I really hope you dont have marshall law on the horizon.

This video is rather graphic, but just shows you how far its gone with police brutality in America, its disgusting to watch:

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[Leon55]

A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept.


The russian "Bear" (Tupolev Tu-95) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95) bomber COULD carry a nuclear device. do we know for sure it was?

those planes are ancient, first built in 1952... they are easy to intercept, easy to spot on radar, but they can carry big payloads.. the russian airforce regularly flys exactly like this, when I was in alaska I contracted for the airforce for a bit on the radar systems that would catch these guys coming in to skim our air space, every year.

So I wouldn't stress too much because of that maneuver..

Exactly what I wanted to say. We have had Russian airplanes fly into Dutch airspace in the past. They're testing what the reaction time is of the different airforces. That's just intelligence they want to gather for military strategic purposes.

[Leon55]

Strange no one noticed that WW III was unofficially declared on 9-11-2001...

... via a "terrorist" false flag to strike war on the people.

As Bush said: "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists."

[Leon55]

Also, don't forget that fear is used to control us. There's probably many of these stories that are put online and are pushed in the MSM as part of a psy-op.

[Jayren]

They've been saying WWIII is imminent for a long time now like even when I first initially woke up. Did videos on it and exposed it but WWIII never happened and that's a good thing. We see it as US trying to start a war with Russia yadda yadda ya. I've had dreams of all this **** happening it doesn't end well. The only thing about it is I don't think it will happen because it's already happening. We have never been out of war no matter what kind of war you want to call it, just speaking the truth man. US is bunch of spoiled little brats, go to some of those countries where war is happening everyday, yea Gaza, middle Eastern countries I believe some in Europe to, even in the Ukraine yeah everybody still remembers that, they said WWIII would be started over that to. This conflict in Syria will be resolved or it will upset not just the American people but the people of earth.

[yuhui]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=34365&d=1475821694

[7alon]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

"the hope for the world will emerge out of Russia"- venerable pschic Edgar Cayce

Larry

Edgar Cayce was amazing---no record of him ever being inaccurate in his diagnosis or suggested treatment.
Who knows he may be right about the hope of the world emerging out of Russia.

Ch

Thanks for bringing that up, I had never heard of him until I saw this post. Very fascinating :)

[Baby Steps]

its a dance like a bull fight.

the bull is the emerging eurasian consensus, Brics, or whatever.

the matador is the usa, uk, french military industrial complex, it is full of good people but under demonic control.

the audience is the usa and european public.

the dance is about hurting one another. the matador knows that if he gets too close, he will receive a killer blow from the bulls horn.

equally the bull knows that the matadors sword can kill him.

the matador could walk away, everybody goes home to live in peace. the bull wants this more than anything, but the matadors agenda is to create more and more chaos, which he can exploit to usher in dictatorship over the whole ring and everybody in it.

so the game that the matador plays is to claim to be a peacemaker, and say that he is trying to defend innocents, when in reality he is trying to provoke the bull. his success depends on two things

firstly, he must keep the audience in delusion about his agenda. every tool of deception, including false flag terror is being used. the matador appears however to have an over riding priority , that is to preserve his credibility as a victim of agression and peacemaker.

the second aim of the matador is to provoke the bull into an attack so horrible, that the world will forgive him for retaliating. in the fear and panic generated, a new world order of corporate tyranny will be ushered in.

one has to feel sorry for the bull. he knows what game is being played here. the only way he can get the upper hand, is with extreme sophistication and discipline. occasions will happen where evil unjustified attacks occur, as recently happened when usa,uk,and denmark teamed up with isis for a coordinated attack on syrian national forces, an outrage that is clearly illegal and pre meditated.

those who wish for peace, are relying on the bull to exercise super human discipline and self restraint. in the recent case thank god, they did not respond. russia managed to contain the natural response of syrian soldiers, to fight back and defend themselves. russia knew that if syria had responded, this would have been presented to the audience as an attack. well done, bull
casey said you would save us, who knows, but it appears that our survival depends on your ability to play a cleverer game.play for time while the audience work out the mechanics of the matadors deception.

play for time, while the truth speakers, disclosers and leakers bring down the whole house of cards. the deception key log being 9-11. events appear to be coordinating.

as truth comes to the fore, the war and financial dramas are ramped up in a clear manipulated balancing deception.

save syria, in so doing the bull will save the middle east from the ever increasing likelihood that someone, perhaps israel, will feel forced to nuke somebody.
the bull is working for all of us, and gaia.

[Baby Steps]

one further comment about the matadors strategy.
he needs to preserve his own credibility, especially if he is badly wounded. that is a priority.

so clearly preserving his credibility is of prime concern.(to be seen as the victim)

the reason for this is, that after all the blood letting and the dust settles, it is tha matador who wishes to control the new order that is ushered in. this, of course, it all ready to go, and waiting in the wings.

if it was war at any cost it would all be over by now. the delays to the agenda are because the matador MUST retain authority in the post war landscape.

for those fearing anihilation, i would say, expect attack, but anihilation is not part of the script. having said that you are playing a dangerous game with a bull, and they are strong and unpredictable. beware, or better still drop the whole insane enterprise and go home to your kids!

[EFO]

From what I can see of not only US government and military heads, but other counties elite also, is that they are all seeming to push for confrontation and secrecy from its own citizens.

They have been trained to confront the public like that because its part of the plan to make you all turn on each other ~divide & rule, order out of chaos, I really hope you dont have marshall law on the horizon.

This video is rather graphic, but just shows you how far its gone with police brutality in America, its disgusting to watch:

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An other one from Departed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ4mVtNEBio

[Sueanne47]

Russia is returning to Cuba and Vietnam:

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[Pam]

Update 3 hours ago Israeli news live

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This update is a really good source of information, thanks Sueanne47 for a most important thread.

[Sueanne47]

Steven Ben-Nun is great, :star: very informative and gives a clear picture on what's going on, on the BBC last night, it was headline news about Nigel Farage! this is how we are told very little on mainstream news.

[Sueanne47]

its a dance like a bull fight.

the bull is the emerging eurasian consensus, Brics, or whatever.

the matador is the usa, uk, french military industrial complex, it is full of good people but under demonic control.

the audience is the usa and european public.

the dance is about hurting one another. the matador knows that if he gets too close, he will receive a killer blow from the bulls horn.

equally the bull knows that the matadors sword can kill him.

the matador could walk away, everybody goes home to live in peace. the bull wants this more than anything, but the matadors agenda is to create more and more chaos, which he can exploit to usher in dictatorship over the whole ring and everybody in it.

so the game that the matador plays is to claim to be a peacemaker, and say that he is trying to defend innocents, when in reality he is trying to provoke the bull. his success depends on two things

firstly, he must keep the audience in delusion about his agenda. every tool of deception, including false flag terror is being used. the matador appears however to have an over riding priority , that is to preserve his credibility as a victim of agression and peacemaker.

the second aim of the matador is to provoke the bull into an attack so horrible, that the world will forgive him for retaliating. in the fear and panic generated, a new world order of corporate tyranny will be ushered in.

one has to feel sorry for the bull. he knows what game is being played here. the only way he can get the upper hand, is with extreme sophistication and discipline. occasions will happen where evil unjustified attacks occur, as recently happened when usa,uk,and denmark teamed up with isis for a coordinated attack on syrian national forces, an outrage that is clearly illegal and pre meditated.

those who wish for peace, are relying on the bull to exercise super human discipline and self restraint. in the recent case thank god, they did not respond. russia managed to contain the natural response of syrian soldiers, to fight back and defend themselves. russia knew that if syria had responded, this would have been presented to the audience as an attack. well done, bull
casey said you would save us, who knows, but it appears that our survival depends on your ability to play a cleverer game.play for time while the audience work out the mechanics of the matadors deception.

play for time, while the truth speakers, disclosers and leakers bring down the whole house of cards. the deception key log being 9-11. events appear to be coordinating.

as truth comes to the fore, the war and financial dramas are ramped up in a clear manipulated balancing deception.

save syria, in so doing the bull will save the middle east from the ever increasing likelihood that someone, perhaps israel, will feel forced to nuke somebody.
the bull is working for all of us, and gaia.

Isnt the Matador just making the bull see red! ~

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Funny you should mention 9/11, here (at 3.05) obumma says it all like he is satan talking, he's determined to destroy America, but at the start there is a bit about the russian planes:

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[Sueanne47]

Another broadcast for you ~ Coalition Leaked Plans to attack Syria with nearly 800 bombers :

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[Sueanne47]

Urban tank battle, at Al-Hamah near Damascus:

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RT Discussion on Russian-US relations: dangerous escalation:

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Nuclear War with Russia closer :

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[noxon medem]

"world war 3" have been going on since "world war 2" ended (?)

- So, what else is new (& who knew) under the sun . ? .

( ..!.. )

nm

[Sueanne47]

American stupidity (talking about the American gov.) is worse than Terrorism :

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[Sean]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

Larry

Wonder why I always feel like the baby that got thrown out with the bath water just because I'm an American.
Feel like I'm being piled on the same big heap as all other Americans along with my government and military, just cuz I'm American. Kind of depressing.

Personally, I'm starting to distance myself from any kind of label. I'm American, but this govt. damn sure doesn't represent me. Leaning towards "world citizen" at least in spirit. When funds are available, I plan to make that more concrete . America has lost its damn mind.

[Sueanne47]

America has much beauty though Sean, just because the Oligarch's are making America look ugly, I'd still be proud to be American because of the Yellowstone Park, Grand Canyon, Rocky mountains etc. And quite a few (not all) Americans have great hearts ~ I love ya' all! :star: :heart:

[TargeT]

@Sueanne 47

"A russian nuclear plane flew close to europe, and 4 countries from Nato had to intercept"- there is no confirmation this was a Russian plane; only the US is capable of doing such nonsense; the Russians are too level-headed to do this;

Larry

Wonder why I always feel like the baby that got thrown out with the bath water just because I'm an American.
Feel like I'm being piled on the same big heap as all other Americans along with my government and military, just cuz I'm American. Kind of depressing.

Personally, I'm starting to distance myself from any kind of label. I'm American, but this govt. damn sure doesn't represent me. Leaning towards "world citizen" at least in spirit. When funds are available, I plan to make that more concrete . America has lost its damn mind.

Moving to "America-lite" was one of the best things I've done.. Alaska was a good first step, but it's better in the islands, here the mentality is so much less greed driven and the people are what I term "aggressively polite" which I actually agree a lot with. I think it's rude not to acknowledge someone else presence with a greeting or something. Plus there's almost ZERO "keeping up with the Jones's" type of mentality, the only people concerned with material possessions are usually the drug selling types & youngsters from the projects (the latter of which is a strange dichotomy).

When I go to the states now I get a lot of weird looks, anyone passing with in a reasonable distance of me is getting a "good morning" or what ever is appropriate; in Miami people were looking at me like I'd lost my mind.

If you ever want to give it a try hit me up, I like being a vacation facilitator (sounds better than tour guide, right? Plus it gives me a good excuse to visit my favorite restaurants & go back to places I haven't been in a while).. Free equine therapy included!


NOW, with that said; I've also been to a lot of places out side the states and I'm always very glad to come back. I'm not so sure that the grass is greener on this one, I'm very happy to be a US citizen after spending some time in a few other places.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Propaganda news vs "conspiracy news outlets...

What has changed is people are confused from what Trump is bringing forward and exposing.

Mainline news heroin, is trying to program responses, but it isn't working.

Friends that know me are coming out with questions showing Trumps call of the root of all evil being news channels is hitting home. Billions of dollars spent on mind control isn't working. The veil is being pulled aside leaving truth exposed.

They are accepting facts without question now, and wanting to know more.

That is a huge change, the sheep are waking

[Sueanne47]

Putin issues ultimatum to USA :

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[Sueanne47]

Russia Veto's UN Resolution - US trying to get no fly zone

Steven Ben-Nun says here ~ "When are we ever going to come to a place that
we on this earth are brother's & sisters? and we are humanity as a whole."

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[Sueanne47]

Billions of dollars spent on mind control isn't working.

But the US generals are mind controlled.

There are different levels of Monarch programming ~ Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta, Omega, Gamma. Elite soldiers and special agents come under Delta programming (ie. Delta force, 1st earth battalion) Mossad etc. in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear, very systematic in carrying out their assignment. (didnt we see Gen. Milley exactly like this recently?)
Its all explained in this link:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm

[ozmirage]

The Galactic Overlord has not authorized any nuclear based hostilities as far as I know.

[Sueanne47]

Hi Ozmirage,

Could you possibly tell us more about the Galactic Overlord? I'd be pleased to hear..

[Baby Steps]

if you are a military professional, and you have followed the syria debacle, and you now feel it appropriate to come out with agressive bluster threatening Russia, then you have lost your mind.

I see these behaviours as evidence for some very weird mind control stuff. this forum is a brilliant source of information about what could be going on. I feel it in some friends too

[greybeard]

I am not the slightest concerned.
There are checks and balances.
No one person can push the button, so to speak.

Ch

[betoobig]

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Ufo seen over Moscow, others info said it even landed there. My take is that they are helping Putting, thus helping us all. We have seen ufos for the last years hoovering near Nuclear plants, and it was admited by the US military complex that they dont have control on their nuclear weapons. Even though small potent nukes, like the ones used against China´s industrial complex, are still there.
Once again much awareness and no fear.
love

[betoobig]

Strange no one noticed that WW III was unofficially declared on 9-11-2001...

... via a "terrorist" false flag to strike war on the people.

As Bush said: "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists."

can´t help it , i have to laugh with that quote from Bush.
oh dear , great time to be awake. Sorry Bush, i am really sorry i am awake....lol
much love

[bluestflame]

dunno the validity but seems someone is keen to kick things off one way or the other https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2203https://www.superstation95.com/images/USPlanesPaintedRUSSIANColors-FalseFlagBombingImminent.jpg

https://www.superstation95.com/media/k2/items/cache/4f443f7a054da84f8d510ac12abc35f4_XL.jpg?t=1475989011

U.S. Caught Repainting Fighter Jets to RUSSIAN COLORS - False Flag Bombing Imminent!

( for some reason the pics wouldn't come up )

[TargeT]

U.S. Caught Repainting Fighter Jets to RUSSIAN COLORS - False Flag Bombing Imminent!

( for some reason the pics wouldn't come up )

Those aren't Russian colors, that is "plane camouflage"... they all fly in the same sky ;)

Plus those planes are completely different, only a civilian would confuse the two I guess?

F18:
https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/mcdonnell-douglas/mcdonnell-douglas-fa-18a-hornet.png


SU-34:
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[TargeT]

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The world once again finds itself hurtling to the brink of war, and once again the establishment mouthpiece puppet propaganda media is leading the charge. This time around their lies defy description. In the sick world of the would-be warmongers, child beheading terrorist scum are now the heroes. The blood of the innocents that spill from here on in covers the hands of the mainstream media propagandists.

[Sueanne47]

What is this obsession the satanists have with children? we know that they are being 'eaten' in black magic rituals, and being used as propaganda tools (like the boy in the video, and the child on the beach photo to kick start the migrant rush into europe).

Sources:
Vatican, illuminati, royal family, Isis, Killary

[ozmirage]

Hi Ozmirage,

Could you possibly tell us more about the Galactic Overlord? I'd be pleased to hear..
We Will Know When Galactic Overlord's Minions Have Acted . . .
❏ They will peremptorily wipe out bankers, corporations, underwriters, lawyers, judges, economists, bureaucrats, politicians, socialist slavers, warlords, religious zealots, infomercial producers and used car salesmen, leaving alone the harmless productive and creative people.
❏ Resulting in a world population of 500,000,000 or so.

D'Oh!

[Sueanne47]

Syrian people speak out, they are targeted by US backed insurgents :

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[mojo]

agressive bluster threatening Russia

I noticed Hillary in the debate insinuated Russia in the email hacks. That doesn't seem right unless 100% proof otherwise why would the mainstream push for an antagonistic position rather than a diplomatic one? Pushing Russia does not put us in a safer position. Especially when using unfounded facts.

[Sueanne47]

agressive bluster threatening Russia

I noticed Hillary in the debate insinuated Russia in the email hacks. That doesn't seem right unless 100% proof otherwise why would the mainstream push for an antagonistic position rather than a diplomatic one? Pushing Russia does not put us in a safer position. Especially when using unfounded facts.

What WW3 would give to the satanists is 'one gigantic human sacrifice' and reduce the population to 500,000

[Sueanne47]

UN Security Council accuses Obama of war crimes (media silent):

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[Sueanne47]

United Nations :

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[Sueanne47]

Russian bear awakened, nuke capable missiles moved to Kaliningrad :

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[Yetti]

Please stop following the game staged by warmongers to create the mindset of milions about this subject, keep your focus in other more positive things and defuel the agenda!! Easy...

[Sueanne47]

Please stop following the game staged by warmongers to create the mindset of milions about this subject, keep your focus in other more positive things and defuel the agenda!! Easy...

We have to keep informed as to what is going on....so we dont live in the dark like they do in mainstream media....this is what Avalon is all about (finding the truth from lies). This is not 'following the game' this is VERY SERIOUS and involves us all at this present time. :angry:

[Sueanne47]

US Election to be cancelled, and War Crimes Tribunals held, Pentagon & CIA sources say" Fulford Oct. 10 :

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More on this blog:

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/benjamin-fulford-10-10-16-us-elections-to-be-cancelled-and-war-crimes-tribunals-to-be-held-pentagon-and-cia-sources-say/

Raw intel from CIA: a 90% probability

[Yetti]

Yes I understand your point, but isn't that if more people are focus in something, even if they don't know , or some idea it will attract the realization of this? it's just simply law of attraction isn't it?

[greybeard]

Talk of WW3 may be imminent, on videos is just that.
Various opinions--nothing more.
Follow the money--in who's interest is it to propagate such half truths, to keep the population fearful?

Ch

[EFO]

WikiLeaks release:

"Mitchell, who includes in his email signature that he’s the “6th man to walk on the Moon,” warns Podesta that the “nonviolent ETI” are helping to share zero point energy with Earth but will not “tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space."

https://www.rt.com/viral/362272-podesta-emails-aliens-vatican/

[Wind]

Remember... Your thoughts create your reality and collectively we create our reality.

[pueblo]

Please stop following the game staged by warmongers to create the mindset of milions about this subject, keep your focus in other more positive things and defuel the agenda!! Easy...

This is an important point when following "the games" that are being played, which do of course affect us. The question is how can we can affect the games without playing them?

It is easy to become trapped in the game the closer you follow it and there is a need to find balance between maintaining positive intent and focus while still being conscious of the game and how it is developing.

If we can create/affect reality with our intent then it follows that it is essential for us to keep in mind just what our intent for the world is, focusing on that and not on the incidentals of the game.

Regarding the op I think WW3 is a possibility but the timing doesn't seem quite right just now, of course it could easily become the smokescreen for a sneaky globalist reset...

[greybeard]

David Icke says---often enough.
"Only unconditional love is real,the rest is an illusion"

The only way out of the illusion is to stop believing it is real.
What we repeatedly ingest, as in media stories--including u tube, has a profound effect on our mind set and affects our health negatively.

Garbage in garbage out.

There is not going to be a nuclear war and WW3 can not be fought without using the ultimate weapons.

Avalon now, is about where Science and spirituality meets--it says so on the front page ,-It mainly chronicles that kind of awakening.

If we --the human race, dont have a spiritual awakening then yes the future is more of the same.---Its that important to investigate fully spiritual awakening--as in Self realization.

Ch

[Baby Steps]

Please stop following the game staged by warmongers to create the mindset of milions about this subject, keep your focus in other more positive things and defuel the agenda!! Easy...

This is an important point when following "the games" that are being played, which do of course affect us. The question is how can we can affect the games without playing them?

It is easy to become trapped in the game the closer you follow it and there is a need to find balance between maintaining positive intent and focus while still being conscious of the game and how it is developing.

If we can create/affect reality with our intent then it follows that it is essential for us to keep in mind just what our intent for the world is, focusing on that and not on the incidentals of the game.

Regarding the op I think WW3 is a possibility but the timing doesn't seem quite right just now, of course it could easily become the smokescreen for a sneaky globalist reset...

Just tuning out, thinking of something else etc is not enough. Like sheep walking to the slaughter house telling each other that they will be OK as long as they think happy thoughts.

We need to drop the fear, as that is a CREATIVE force. The older ones amongst us, including me, get into Cold War thought patterns, that are not quite right for the situation that we are currently in.

We as a human collective, have this great power to shift- jump timelines- and go to where we want to be.

Where I am at , which is not as advanced as many, is that the two tools we have to shift the timeline are

1. Thought/Intent/Meditation- works at the quantum level to command reality to change, plus at the psychic level- shifting people's behaviours or perceptions.
2. Action.

The problem with action on its own is that it is hard to shift mass perception. Shouting about stuff does not work. Believe me I have tried. It works sometimes , a bit, but mostly provokes derision. Mahatma Gandhi was a great example of affirmative action that shifted mass perceptions. If the broad mass of humanity wake up to what is going on, things can stop easily.

so how I feel now is:

- Recognise that awful inhuman things are upon us(but defeat the inherent fear that comes from this and do not project it)
- Share info, try to shift the narrative
- Strategise to assist others to wake up
- Meditate on positive outcomes, shifts, and awakenings

God bless


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Git5sXfZQ

[Baby Steps]

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?


I get daily little thoughts emailed from Neil Donald Walsh ('Conversations with God')



On this day of your life
Dear Friend I believe God wants you to know...

...that "Why is this happening?" is the most useless
question in the Universe.

The only really profitable question is, "What?" As in,
"What do I choose now?" This question empowers.
The "why" question simply perplexes, and rarely
satisfies even when it gets a good answer.

So don't try to "figure it out." Stop it. Just focus on
what you now wish to create. Keep moving forward.
There's nothing behind you that can possibly serve
you better than your highest thoughts about tomorrow.

You will not have to think but a second to know
exactly why you received this message today.

I always agree with the perspective, but this one above has me perplexed. In relation to world events, I believe that it is important for people to investigate, and come to a better understanding of the underhanded agenda , dark manipulations etc. People who wish to change this situation are obligated to study, investigate and self-educate.

But the Conversations with God ethos is different. It says that the 'why' is not important.

The question the universe poses to us is -

'Who am I in relation to these events'

As events occur we constantly react , ignore, scream, shift. Whatever. Whatever we do or think, we are giving an answer to the question - WHO ARE WE IN RELATION TO THESE EVENTS.

there is no judgement. There is no right or wrong answer. To be that Ostrich with its head in a bucket of sand is no better or worse answer than to be that beacon of light, or strident truth warrior.

Still, if we decide that we don't like these forces manipulating us, great-lets experience the next grandest version of who we wish to be-and if that is people who are going to call time on the manipulation - that sounds good to me

God bless.

[betoobig]

i love Avalon , and this thread could very well merge with "we live in a fake reality" one.
WW3 was won by corporations long ago, what we are really living now is the procces of freeing ourselves, thus the world, from slavary and a planet quarentine that is being holding us helpless.
That´s my focus and my intention which i proceed trhough being aware and realising huge amounts of love.
Much Unselfish LOve, the only true/pure/clean love
JUan

[Sueanne47]

*Thank you* BabySteps,

Outside of Avalon its rare to get anyone to talk about 'unpalatable' subjects like we do here.

Now supposing I was to start a thread about the WW2 Holocaust, Japanese prisoner of war camps, Vietnam, India's slums, US Diplomat murder Chris Stevens. Would you think "Sue is doing some great work helping us to know and exposing truth's ~ or would you think "OMG, here she goes again....more gloom & doom, I'm turning off from Avalon...its too gloomy, I want to be cheered up for a change" or "I think she's possessed by demons...she keeps looking at black subjects all the time, I'm getting fed up with it"

Life is unpalatable at times! good versus bad...we cant have one without the other, so I'm sorry if the truth hurts.

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[greybeard]

You have every right to bring up any topic Sueanne47
Some you will get more support for than others.
Its a place of debate, this forum.
I don't disagree with you--just the likelihood of World War111 maybe imminent.
So don't take it personally, it isn't.


So my understanding is, yes be aware and most on Avalon are----just don't feed the beast.
The understanding being that it is all energy of different vibrations and the more any level of energy is taken on,
believed in, then the more possibility of bringing it about.

The more the positive uplifting is believed in the better--there are lots of positive stories--they just dont make the news.
The stories are common place and not shouting out.

The news is a reflection of the readers mentality---basically they give you what you buy into.
Its a business, they sell you what you want.
The great majority want drama--the bigger the better.

We feel safe and secure when its happening to some one else, but we like a little fear too.

Ch

[Sueanne47]

Well the fear seems to have died down a bit lately, not sure of that fulford report yet wether its true or not. Mr Putin seems to be wanting to get on with Erdogen, but I think he will stab him in the back.

Like Steven Ben Nun says ~ he is trying to sift through the propaganda to bring us real news, and not just fear mongering drivel. If its true that the UN are accusing obama of war crimes...and a tribunal goes ahead, would that stop the saber rattling/WW3 threat.

[greybeard]

Fulford has been discredited on this forum as not one to listen to if you want the truth.
He used to be believed here but not much of what was spoken of by him happened.
Some truth, a lot of filling--of may happen.
Hypothetical is just that.
No one has a crystal ball.

Im a bit cynical---I have been here too long and seen the headlines come and go without many of the forecasts actually happening--thank God.

Ch

[Sueanne47]

I saw this video pub. today ~ LMAO this guy dissing obummer is hysterical.. "you aint stallin' nothin' FOOL!!!"

isnt it strange how Obama is such a gent, but he is a wolf in sheep's clothin'

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Loving this, Obama is told Putin is the real leader LOL :

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[ThePythonicCow]

The most excellent Russian analyst Dmitry Orlov, on his website Club Orlov (http://cluborlov.com/), has just posted an excellent analysis of the risks of World War 3 breaking out, at ClubOrlov: “Oops!”—A World War! (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/10/oopsa-world-war.html?spref=bl).

He finds that the risks are low, and details the reasons why. He observes that the Americans have been persistent and stupid, and persistently stupid (my words) in their efforts over the last several decades to use "terrorism by proxy" to control the world, but they haven't been suicidal, and that the other nations of the world, in particular Russia, are becoming increasingly capable of limiting the damage caused by these "delusional, megalomaniacal" (Orlov's words) American efforts.

[greybeard]

Taken from the article linked by Paul


"To summarize: the reasons war with Russia is unlikely are that:
1. The US military experts are not suicidal
2. There is no military strategy for them to pursue
3. There is no compelling reason for the US to go to war against Russia

[Sueanne47]

Thanks for that piece of info Paul & Chris, Putin knows the US government are fruitcakes, but he must take them seriously though, or 40 million russians wouldnt have had to do a drill.

All this time Isis is still in Syria, and 275,000 citizens are in danger of death.

In an earlier video I put up with 'cross talk' RT, a guy said "Syria is no danger to the US, but is perceived by Israel as posing a danger to Israel because through Syria comes the re-supply for Hesbollah in South Lebanon. Israel's made clear they want to cut off that supply chain...and what better way to do it than create chaos in Syria? its in their documents, and its also in H. Clinton's documents."

Is this the reason for US interest in Syria as well as the oil & gas..

[greybeard]

Thanks for that piece of info Paul & Chris, Putin knows the US government are fruitcakes, but he must take them seriously though, or 40 million russians wouldnt have had to do a drill.

All this time Isis is still in Syria, and 275,000 citizens are in danger of death.

Its about control Sueanne47
Putin is well aware that USA and UK governments are not suicidal---he just uses fear to control his own people as do all Governments and most religions.
Way back UK held all kind of drills in case of this, that and the next thing.

Governments are well aware of human psychology and therefore they invent problems in order to be the good guys solving them.

They imply that you, the population, need us, the ruling body, to look after you and keep you safe from the enemy--if there wasn't an enemy they would invent one, create one.
There is a pattern to it all--history repeats, financial crisis another way of keeping control--all fear related.

Ch

[pueblo]

Massive non-compliance by the general populace could easily put the brakes on any war plans, how likely is it that people would be motivated to do this is another matter.

I know I would happily go to an internment camp before I would comply.

Imo, a global financial reset is more realistic than WWIII.

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[bluestflame]

something else to consider http://theusualroutine.com/2016/10/10/confirmation-tianjin-nuked-no-chemical-fire-chinas-9-11/


Confirmation Tianjin Was Nuked – This was no chemical fire, this was China’s 9-11


http://i0.wp.com/theusualroutine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/1.jpg?w=750

( am not sure of the dating of this story but thought it relevent to current events ) "(Veterans Today) Two weeks ago a devastating explosion took place in the port city of Tianjin, China. Official reports claimed a chemical storage facility had caught fire and exploded. Mobile phone footage taken by residents showed an enormous blast and fireball.

Within days, aerial photos revealed the stunning extent of the damage. A steaming black crater marks ground zero, while the apocalyptic surrounding landscape is charred and flattened. Rows of burnt-out cars and twisted shipping containers stretch into the distance on all sides"

[bluestflame]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/russian-government-officials-told-immediately-bring-back-children-studying-abroad


Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad

[betoobig]

[YOUTUBEhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTAXZ0p7KU[/YOUTUBE]

[bluestflame]

just post this part " v=-uTAXZ0p7KU "

ie cut this part out "https://m.youtube.com/watch?"

[Baby Steps]

Sorry, more gloom.

Rising tensions in Kashmir since the recent terror attacks. We are seeing heavy equipment heading to the border, troops moving, belligerent speeches, etc.

In Pakistan, people are sharing drone footage of skirmishes and firefights BETWEEN REGULAR TROOPS on the line of control.

Modi, is a brilliant leader but there is a strand of Hindu fundamentalism that is scary, just look at the body language and tone of voice in the videos of recent Modi threatening speeches. India appears to be cosying up to the western camp, whereas Pakistan is embedding with Russia-China.

This year in a first ever, Russian troops have done exercises with the Pakistan army. Pakistanis tell me that things are getting serious!

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1187670/modi-threatens-isolate-pakistan-globally/

https://twitter.com/AsimBajwaISPR/status/779189706672275456/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://www.rt.com/news/360384-russia-pakistan-joint-exercise/




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OKMKquQw-o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgwV6Prnpk

EDIT: story from a Pakistan Veteran. We were right on the border, in our bunkers. On Thursday nights our Indian counterparts received their weekly alcohol delivery. Our instructions were to strictly remain under cover on Thursdays, because of the usual practice of indiscriminate mortar and small arms fire on those nights. The Army advised all soldiers that their pensions and life insurance would be withdrawn if they received any wound to a part of the body below the upper chest. This is the norm of how things have been for a long time.

[TargeT]

[YOUTUBEhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTAXZ0p7KU[/YOUTUBE]




just post this part " v=-uTAXZ0p7KU "

ie cut this part out "https://m.youtube.com/watch?"

Actually it's just missing this -> ] <- behind the first YOUTUBE, the forum will truncate the link after it's posted, but the way it was tried was almost correct, just missed that one bracket (looks like it was posted from a phone, so that makes sense).

-uTAXZ0p7KU

[EFO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs6H5nNZb1M

[Baby Steps]

[YOUTUBEhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTAXZ0p7KU[/YOUTUBE]




just post this part " v=-uTAXZ0p7KU "

ie cut this part out "https://m.youtube.com/watch?"

Actually it's just missing this -> ] <- behind the first YOUTUBE, the forum will truncate the link after it's posted, but the way it was tried was almost correct, just missed that one bracket (looks like it was posted from a phone, so that makes sense).

-uTAXZ0p7KU

Very telling. One cannot trust videos that could easily have been doctored. There are better versions of this showing allegedly some kind of iris movement, like all the poor reptile videos. In this one it is hard to say what is going on,but it is VERY TELLING to watch the security guy in the blue jacket.

He seems to sense that HC is having some kind of episode or spasm - his facial expression changes, and he suddenly turns away. Something very wrong here...

[Yetti]

I like your analisis pueblo. You can call me naive if you want , but in my deepest hearth i want the event to come in place as a refreshing breath to a drowning civilization, my tough is : It would be so big and shocking for most of the unaware population that easily could have a negative turn if the masses swell the hook of the media and the cabal trying to portrait a dark side of the outside help thru hollywood crappy si-fi movies ( like independence day , the war of worlds, and more) could be a tipping point for the energy to switch.
That's why we must keep focus on the outcome we want, as strong as we can and to enlight the most people we can too. And not, imposing our ideas or point of view, just give them enough info to awake a strong curiosity and let them dig by themselves.

[ThePythonicCow]

( am not sure of the dating of this story but thought it relevent to current events ) "(Veterans Today) Two weeks ago a devastating explosion took place in the port city of Tianjin, China. Official reports claimed a chemical storage facility had caught fire and exploded. Mobile phone footage taken by residents showed an enormous blast and fireball.
This Tianjin explosion occurred on 12 August 2015, about 14 months ago now.

[TargeT]

Maybe that proxy war with Yemen will turn into a real war?

The new Gulf of Tonkin? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident)

USS Mason Fired 3 Missiles to Defend From Yemen Cruise Missiles Attack
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The crew of a guided-missile destroyer fired three missiles to defend themselves and another ship after being attacked on Sunday in the Red Sea by two presumed cruise missiles fired by Iran-backed Houthi-forces, USNI News has learned.

During the attack against USS Mason (DDG-87), the ship’s crew fired the missiles to defend the guided-missile destroyer and nearby USS Ponce (AFSB(I)-15) from two suspected cruise missiles fired from the Yemini shore, two defense officials told USNI News.

Mason launched two Standard Missile-2s (SM-2s) and a single Enhanced Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) to intercept the two missiles that were launched about 7 P.M. local time. In addition to the missiles, the ship used its Nulka anti-ship missile decoy, the sources confirmed. Mason was operating in international waters north of the strait of Bab el-Mandeb at the time of the attack.

According to a defense official on Monday, Mason “employed onboard defensive measures” against the first suspected cruise missile, “although it is unclear whether this led to the missile striking the water or whether it would have struck the water anyway.” The official did not specify that the defensive measure was a missile fired from the ship.

USNI News understands, as of Monday, the crew of the ship was uncertain if the suspected cruise missile was taken out by an SM-2 or went into the water on its own. In the Monday statement, the Pentagon said an investigation was ongoing.
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The second missile launched from Yemen hit the water without being struck by a U.S. interceptor, the Pentagon said.

Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis would not confirm Mason launched missiles to USNI News on Monday. On Tuesday, Davis told reporters the missiles coming from Yemen might have been intended to strike Ponce and that the U.S. “will take action accordingly,” in response to the findings of the ongoing investigation.

While the Pentagon will not confirm details of Mason’s engagement, the use of both missiles by the U.S. is, “very significant,” Bryan Clark, a naval analyst at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments and former aide to retired former-Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert, told USNI News on Monday.

“It might be the first time the SM-2 used against an actual threat for which it was designed,” Clark said.
“It’s definitely the first time ESSM has been used… This is obviously a huge deal.”

The SM-2s – more than two decades old – were specifically designed to tackle Cold War cruise missile threats to a guided-missile destroyer, much like the ones Iran has presumably given to the Houthis in Yemen.

Last week a Houthi-launched cruise missile caused significant damage to the UAE-leased HSV Swift – an unarmed aluminum high-speed transport vessel used to move supplies and wounded in the region, UAE officials said. UAE is part of a Saudi Arabia led coalition that has fought against the Iran-backed Shi’a Houthis in Yemen since last year.

While U.S. sources haven’t confirmed the type of missiles, open source naval analyst and retired Navy Capt. Chris Carlson told USNI News on Monday the damage on Swift appears to be from the warhead used in a Chinese-built C-802 anti-ship missile (NATO reporting name CSS-N-8 Saccade). The C-802 is based on Cold War-era French technology.
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Specifically, the damage on Swift indicates the missile had an explosively formed penetrator (EFP) warhead – a well-known feature of the C-802. An EFP expands on impact launching additional pieces of shrapnel once the missile has penetrated the outer skin of a target around its circumference.
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While the guidance system is largely 1990s vintage, the C-802 carries a, “very damaging warhead,” Carlson said.

The attacks on Mason and Ponce follow an airstrike that killed more than 140 people and injured more than 500 during a funeral in Yemen. The Saudi-led bombing has prompted a review of U.S. support of the conflict fought between the collation and the Houthis since last year, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

Prior to the Saudi strike, Houthi rebels have told Saudi Arabia and its allies — via Iranian state media — to stay out of Yemen, “territorial waters.”

However the Houthis, “denied firing at the USS Mason guided missile destroyer and the USS Ponce,” according to a Tuesday report from the Reuters newswire.

Davis told reporters on Tuesday, there’s no short-term anticipated change in U.S. posture in the region
https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-mason-fired-3-missiles-to-defend-from-yemen-cruise-missiles-attack

[greybeard]

The world has been at war since humans existed--mainly relatively minor but people get hurt and killed.
The only times there has been relative peace is at the time of great plagues--people were to ill to fight.
The problem is that fighting with bows and arrows is one thing--nuclear some thing else.

So the situation is not new--it just that we hear more about it down to media, including U Tube which is possibly owned by Illuminate.
You are told what suits the seven or eight families that own 90% everything--not saying my figures are right but just an example.

We are not going to have WW111--it does not suit the money people.

Slightly off topic
There are places in the world where there are places of high atomic radiation thousand of years old--in India for example.
So we may have had nuclear devastation before on a small scale.
Weapons of mass destruction, are literally that--any use now would be suicidal.
Its not going to happen.

Ch

[TargeT]

U Tube which is possibly owned by Illuminate.


Possibly?
There is no doubt.

(old, but still relevant)
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[Sueanne47]

Putin's ally says a vote for Hillary is a vote for war :

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[7alon]

The Truth About Syria: A Manufactured War Against An Independent Country

http://www.mintpressnews.com/truth-syria-manufactured-war-independent-country-2/216688/


Isis and their ties to the Muslim Brotherhood

http://www.emannabih.com/the-link-between-muslim-brotherhood-and-isis/


Hillary Clinton and the 'threat' of Iran

http://yournewswire.com/clinton-email-we-must-destroy-syria-for-israel/

A leaked Hillary Clinton email confirms that the Obama administration, with Hillary at the helm, orchestrated a civil war in Syria to benefit Israel.

The new Wikileaks release shows the then Secretary of State ordering a war in Syria in order to overthrow the government and oust President Assad, claiming it was the “best way to help Israel”.

Newobserveronline.com reports:

The document was one of many unclassified by the US Department of State under case number F-2014-20439, Doc No. C05794498, following the uproar over Clinton’s private email server kept at her house while she served as Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.

Although the Wikileaks transcript dates the email as December 31, 2000, this is an error on their part, as the contents of the email (in particular the reference to May 2012 talks between Iran and the west over its nuclear program in Istanbul) show that the email was in fact sent on December 31, 2012.

[TargeT]

Maybe that proxy war with Yemen will turn into a real war?

The new Gulf of Tonkin? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident)

USS Mason Fired 3 Missiles to Defend From Yemen Cruise Missiles Attack

https://news.usni.org/2016/10/11/uss-mason-fired-3-missiles-to-defend-from-yemen-cruise-missiles-attack\\




U.S. military strikes Yemen after missile attacks on U.S. Navy ship
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military launched cruise missiles on Thursday against three coastal radar sites in areas of Yemen controlled by Iran-aligned Houthi forces, after failed missile attacks this week on a U.S. Navy destroyer, U.S. officials said.

Several hours later Iran announced it had sent two warships to the Gulf of Aden, according to the semi-official Tasnim news agency, establishing a military presence in waters off Yemen.

The U.S. missile strikes, authorized by President Barack Obama, represent Washington's first direct military action against suspected Houthi-controlled targets in Yemen's conflict.

The Pentagon appeared to stress the limited nature of the strikes, aimed at radar that enabled the launch of at least three missiles against the U.S. Navy ship USS Mason on Sunday and Wednesday.

"These limited self-defense strikes were conducted to protect our personnel, our ships and our freedom of navigation," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said.

U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said U.S. Navy destroyer USS Nitze launched the Tomahawk cruise missiles around 4 a.m. (0100 GMT).

"These radars were active during previous attacks and attempted attacks on ships in the Red Sea," one of the officials said, adding the targeted radar sites were in remote areas where the risk of civilian casualties was low.

The official identified the areas in Yemen where the radar were located as near Ras Isa, north of Mukha and near Khoka.

Shipping sources told Reuters sites were hit in the Dhubab district of Taiz province, a remote area overlooking the Bab al-Mandab Straight known for fishing and smuggling.

Iran, which supports the Houthi group, said it had deployed two warships to the Gulf of Aden, to protect ship lanes.

"Iran's Alvand and Bushehr warships have been dispatched to the Gulf of Aden to protect trade vessels from piracy," Tasnim news agency reported.

An Iranian official told Reuters the vessels were deployed a few days ago, but declined to say when they will arrive there.

SAFE PASSAGE

The failed missile attacks on the USS Mason appeared to be part of the reaction to a suspected Saudi-led strike on mourners gathered in Yemen's Houthi-held capital Sanaa last week.

The Houthis, who are battling the internationally-recognized government of Yemen President Abd Rabbu Mansour al-Hadi, denied any involvement in Sunday's attempted strike on the USS Mason.

On Thursday, the Houthis reiterated a denial that they carried out the strikes and said they did not come from areas under their control, a news agency controlled by the group quoted a military source as saying.

The allegations were false pretexts to "escalate aggression and cover up crimes committed against the Yemeni people", the source said.

U.S. officials have told Reuters there were growing indications that Houthi fighters, or forces aligned with them, were responsible for Sunday's attempted strikes, in which two coastal cruise missiles designed to target ships failed to reach the destroyer.

The missile incidents, along with an Oct. 1 strike on a vessel from the United Arab Emirates, add to questions about safety of passage for military ships around the Bab al-Mandab Strait, one of the world's busiest shipping routes.

The Houthis, who are allied to Hadi's predecessor Ali Abdullah Saleh, have the support of many army units and control most of the north, including the capital Sanaa.

The Pentagon warned against any future attacks.

"The United States will respond to any further threat to our ships and commercial traffic, as appropriate," Cook said.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE), a leading member of a Saudi-led Arab coalition fighting to end Houthi control, denounced the attacks on the Mason as an attempt to target the freedom of navigation and to inflame the regional situation.

Michael Knights, an expert on Yemen's conflict at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, suggested the Houthis, fighters from a Shi'ite sect, could be becoming more militarily aligned with groups such as Lebanon's Shi'ite militant group Hezbollah.

"Targeting U.S. warships is a sign that the Houthis have decided to join the axis of resistance that currently includes Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran," Knight said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-strikes-houthi-rebel-targets-yemen-pentagon-042717096.html

[Sueanne47]

Obama meets Aides friday for possible military intervention in Syria :

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[lucidity]

Just to remind you all.

The original prediction was that WW3 would kick off on 8th of October 2015
Nope sorry... nothing like WW3 as occurred.
(Just a continuation of the proxy war in Syria)

If you cast your minds back, WW3 was supposed to start in 2015,
and in 2014 and in 2013.

In December 2012 the world was supposed to end.
In September 2015 we were supposed to see the spiritual ascension of humanity.

We have this same prediction again and again and again.
Same disaster porn recurrently told over and over.

But for those of you who are taking this disaster porn seriously...
my offer of 1000 bucks of WW3 insurance still stands.

If WW3 kicks off during 2016, I will pay out 1000 bucks.

If we have a declaration of war between USA and/or Europe
against Russia and/or China
You will receive 1000 bucks.

If we see USA or European troops fighting
with Russian or Chinese troops in 2016...
You will receive 1000 bucks.

It only costs 10 bucks.
Bargain, no ?

Anyone interested... just PM me :-)

PS...

Remember that, in Jan 2016, we had that "report" that the Queen of england
said (to some BBC film crew) that the Xmas of 2015 would be the last Xmas.
She never specified for whom it would be the last Xmas.
At a conservative guess she meant the english.

Would anyone like buy insurance against there being no more Xmases for the english. ?
Only costs 10 bucks, and pays out 10,000 bucks if there's no 2016 xmas in England.
Again, just PM me

[bennycog]

Some of the article below....

http://defconwarningsystem.com/?p=185

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8 P.M., Thursday, October 13th, 2016. Condition code is Yellow. DEFCON 3.

Tensions between Russia and the United States have reached levels beyond the cold war in the recent week.

The situation between Russia and the United States is extremely fluid at the moment. In all likelihood as dynamic as at times during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962. Mainstream media has taken a very serious tone concerning the change from diplomatic to military options between NATO and Russia. CNN stated, “It’s not a new Cold War. It’s not even a deep chill. It’s an outright conflict.” On October 10th Former Soviet Premier Gorbachev is quoted as saying, “I think the world has reached a dangerous point.”

There are signs of a potential growing large scale conflict in nearly every geopolitical hotspot including Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, and the Philippines. Syria is seen as one of the trigger points to the renewed tensions between the United States and Russia. The United States has also accused Russia of a cyberattack and meddling with the US Presidential Election. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest promised on Tuesday that the U.S. would deliver a “proportional” response to Russia’s alleged hacking of American computer systems. The US and Britain are also expected to weigh into Syrian military options on Friday. This could increase tensions between the two superpowers to a greater extent.

[ThePythonicCow]

Some of the article below....

http://defconwarningsystem.com/?p=185

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8 P.M., Thursday, October 13th, 2016. Condition code is Yellow. DEFCON 3.

Definitions of the DEFCON levels, also from http://defconwarningsystem.com/ (which site is loading painfully slowly right now ... perhaps I'm not its only visitor?):

Defcon 1, also called “Defcon One” or “Cocked Pistol” is a maximum defense readiness condition level created in 1959 by the joint chiefs of staff that means nuclear war is imminent.
Defcon 2, also known as “Defcon Two” and “Fast Pace” status means we are at the next step to a nuclear war. In Defcon 2 (Defcon two), the United States Armed Forces are ready and prepared to ship out in 6 hours or less.
Defcon 3, also called “Defcon Three” or “Round House” is basically a “Yellow Alert” level or an increase in alertness and readiness. With Defcon 3 (Three) level the air force is in a state of readiness so that they can deploy and mobilize within 15 minutes time.
Defcon 4, also called “Defcon Four” level or “Double Take” is an increase in intel gathering and strengthening of security protocols.
Defcon 5, also called “Defcon Five” or “Fade Out” is the lowest or normal state of readiness.

In the previous update, of five days ago, 8 Oct 2016 (http://defconwarningsystem.com/?p=166), we were at Defcon Four. Now we are one level "higher", Defcon Three.

[bennycog]

Yes it is slow Paul..

You will notice that the last yellow alert was 6 months ago amid the North and South Korea tensions. With no threats of any nuclear confrontation. this one that is out today includes a possibly for nuclear confrontation.


This is the yellow alert from 6 months ago. No video is out for the current one
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[ThePythonicCow]

Regarding the topic of starting a war, it seems that the US has begun active military offense, bombing radars in Yemen from a US ship: US Using Unconfirmed Attack on Navy Ship to Quietly Start War With Iran and Russia (http://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/gulf-tonkin-2-0-us-using-unconfirmed-attack-navy-ship-quietly-start-war-iran-russia.html).

This is how wars get started, and it could be useful to a planned attack from Saudi Arabia to have those radars blown up, first.

[bluestflame]

Gulf of Aden , remember reports of a vortex in the ocean there a while back ?

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[ThePythonicCow]

This is how wars get started, and it could be useful to a planned attack from Saudi Arabia to have those radars blown up, first.
I'm not, for now anyway, worried that a major world war will happen.

It seems to me that "they" use wars to gain control of nations that don't have a central bank.

Once a nations money is lent into existence from some bank controlled by the Bank of International Settlements and such, then it's easier to control the nation by expanding and contracting its money supply, and by controlling who gets the new money lent to them, for what purpose.

As best as I can tell, the Elite Bastards still live on this planet, and would rather not destroy it.

So we'll see war for the purpose of gaining control over any nations not yet under their monetary control, and for other specialized purposes, such as perhaps controlling energy sources and distribution, distracting the public, and gaining control of "special" places such as apparently the Middle East.

The other major purpose of war, creating more endebtedness, a key control mechanism for them, also is no longer needed so much. The Elite Bastards now have derivatives (aka Buffet's Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction), which will generate endebtedness just fine, thank-you.

[TargeT]

This is how wars get started, and it could be useful to a planned attack from Saudi Arabia to have those radars blown up, first.
I'm not, for now anyway, worried that a major world war will happen.

It seems to me that "they" use wars to gain control of nations that don't have a central bank.

This certainly seems to be the case.. great example here:
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Once a nations money is lent into existence from some bank controlled by the Bank of International Settlements and such, then it's easier to control the nation by expanding and contracting its money supply, and by controlling who gets the new money lent to them, for what purpose.......

The other major purpose of war, creating more endebtedness, a key control mechanism for them, also is no longer needed so much. The Elite Bastards now have derivatives (aka Buffet's Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction), which will generate endebtedness just fine, thank-you.

Well, all things are cyclic: we eventually will come back to the times when we reject centralized banks.. hopefully soon?

[animovado]

Gulf of Aden , remember reports of a vortex in the ocean there a while back ?

What were the reasons for building the Breakwater at Gela’ah and is it working? (http://www.yemenlng.com/ws/en/go.aspx?c=soc_faq)

The breakwater structure was designed as an compensatory offset measure to replace the loss of access to Balhaf beach during the monsoon season. Traditionally, a number of local fishermen (anecdotally as many as 200, but evidentially much fewer in the years preceding commencement of site construction) used Balhaf beach as a sheltered landing area, despite the lack of infrastructure there (eg no auction house, no local population).
The breakwater was, following consultation with the Ministry of Fish Wealth and local fishing communities, located at Gela’ah which is the next village east of the Balhaf plant. Gela’ah had limited infrastructure but it was already established as a fishing village. Furthermore there were no coral colonies to disrupt in the construction of a breakwater and the beach at Gela’ah offers a gentle slope which is ideal for landing the small craft favoured by the local fishermen.
The breakwater was designed by Sogreah who had significant previous experience of designing breakwaters around the World. It had two primary design purposes; Firstly to provide a “safe haven” for fishing craft during the monsoon season during which sea conditions can be quite difficult for small craft attempting to land fish. Secondly, the “three section” design of the breakwater would encourage the formation of 3 “tombolas” due to a change in the beach profile. This would facilitate the landing of small craft during the monsoon.

http://www.yemenlng.com/ws/imgs/image010.gif

It is now almost five years since construction was completed and the beach profile is changing much as predicted by Sogreah in 2005. However, an unexpected third benefit is becoming apparent. The rocky construction of the breakwater sections is acting as an artificial reef and studies by scientists have discovered that it is acting as a haven for shellfish (eg shrimps and lobsters). These are a valued resource and they are further evidence of the sustainability of the marine ecosystem post-construction.

Sorry for the long off topic post...

:focus:

[Sueanne47]

Russia prepares for nuclear war (according to Russian TV) and warns of new world order :

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(Lets pray the peace talks tomorrow work out)

[Sueanne47]

Helicopter with Nato instructors shot down over east Ukraine :

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[Bill Ryan]

Gulf of Aden , remember reports of a vortex in the ocean there a while back ?

p1QL2j5W0VY


--> That was just a dust storm. :)


http://projectavalon.net/aden_dust_storm_stargate_sm.jpg

(larger image here: http://projectavalon.net/aden_dust_storm_stargate.jpg)

:focus:

[Bill Ryan]

http://defconwarningsystem.com/?p=185

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8 P.M., Thursday, October 13th, 2016. Condition code is Yellow. DEFCON 3.



Yes, barely anyone seemed to notice this. I missed it myself! It's almost certainly just saber-rattling, for US election rhetorical purposes, but important nonetheless. The US went to DEFCON 3 on 9/11, so this is actually quite a big thing.

http://defconwarningsystem.com/2016/10/14/defcon-warning-system-update-101316

[Hervé]

Some of the article below....

http://defconwarningsystem.com/?p=185

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8 P.M., Thursday, October 13th, 2016. Condition code is Yellow. DEFCON 3.

Definitions of the DEFCON levels, also from http://defconwarningsystem.com/ (which site is loading painfully slowly right now ... perhaps I'm not its only visitor?):

[...]
Defcon 3, also called “Defcon Three” or “Round House” is basically a “Yellow Alert” level or an increase in alertness and readiness. With Defcon 3 (Three) level the air force is in a state of readiness so that they can deploy and mobilize within 15 minutes time.
[...]

A Defcon 3 would perfectly fit what's been observed about Diego Garcia:

(Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/basepagel8.html)):

====================================


REMEMBER MY WAR POST FROM YESTERDAY? IT'S ON, SEE THIS!

UPDATE: I was wrong about the B-52 being used only for nuclear strikes, though they were developed primarily for that purpose. This has been corrected. Originally posted on October 13

The following was posted to a popular forum. I believe it is credible, and was probably a top secret "OOPS":

Anonymous posted:
"I rotate through Diego Garcia every 6 weeks to pull maintenance on uplink equipment as a private contractor.

Something big is going on, the island has more aircraft than anytime in the last 9 years. They have blocked off some access roads and are now parking aircraft on the road. Barriers have been set up around the aircraft areas. Temporary barracks and hangers are popping up everywhere. A tent city full of AF and Navy maintenance personnel has also been set up.

I have never seen B1s and B2s there at the same time. Actually I have never seen more than 1 there at a time.

Security is nuts I had to show my id at least 8 times a day.

My coworker is former AF and said they are like that when nukes are around. We counted over a dozen air refueling tankers on the ground. The airfield had a take off or landing every 15 minutes, very busy. When we flew out we waited in line for quite a while. We never had to wait in the past.

The Navy had the docks full of ships and 6 to 8 more were moored just off shore. We watched many pallets of bombs being off loaded from one ship.

There were a bunch of B-52's coming in that were painted flat black. I have not seen that before.

So are we headed to war again?"
My comment: One might think an aircraft as old as the B-52 would be mothballed, but the B-52 never was because it is practically impossible to shoot down. They can take several direct missile strikes and keep flying. If they are at Diego Garcia, WATCH OUT.

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[Sueanne47]

US military prepares for all out war amid Syrian standoff, Diego Garcia and safe zones in the US:

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[Sueanne47]

(just in case!) this is a self help guide if we are unfortunate enough to have a nuclear attack :

http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-a-Nuclear-Attack

[Hervé]

In that same vein as for Diego Garcia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93759-WW3-may-be-imminent&p=1105962&viewfull=1#post1105962):


Revealed: US Fighter Jets, Troops Have Been Deployed in East Africa Since July (https://sputniknews.com/africa/201610141046349817-south-sudan-f-16-deployment/)


You know... they just want to have control over traffic in the Red Sea and use pirates and imagined Yemeni's "attacks" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93868-US-supported-conflict-in-Yemen&p=1105522&viewfull=1#post1105522) for "retaliations."

[Hervé]

As a matter of "Business as Usual":

‘Limited & proportionate’: Obama vows to continue ‘self-defense’ strikes in Yemen (https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/)

Published time: 15 Oct, 2016 00:30
Edited time: 15 Oct, 2016 04:51
Get short URL (http://on.rt.com/7ryv)




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A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) is launched from the guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill. File photo. © U.S. Navy / Reuters



Washington reserves the right to strike targets in Yemen whenever “necessary and appropriate,” President Obama told Congress after the US military carried out its first direct attack in the bloody conflict, using the pretext of self-defense.
TrendsYemen unrest (https://www.rt.com/trends/yemen-houthis-military-conflict/)

This week, for the first time since the 18-month-old conflict began, USS Nitze launched Tomahawk cruise missiles at targets in Yemen in retaliation for alleged attacks on the US Navy. The initial Pentagon assessment said that the “self-defense” attack resulted in the destruction of three radar sites, with no indications of civilian casualties.


On Friday US President Barack Obama informed Congress about authorizing the strikes “in response to anti-ship cruise missile launches perpetrated by Houthi insurgents.” In the “War Powers Resolution” letter (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/14/letter-president-war-powers-resolution), Obama stated that US armed forces targeted radar facilities which the US believes had been involved in “the October 9 launches and other recent attacks.”

“These limited and proportionate strikes were conducted to protect our personnel and our ships and will preserve our freedom of navigation in this important maritime passageway,” Obama explained.


[...]


Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/

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... that's "First Strikes" under the guise of "Retaliations."

[greybeard]

Putin warns America that ww3 is unavoidable NEW update!
Published on Oct 13, 2016

Putin warns America that ww3 is unavoidable NEW update!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-izx9bDxt8

I don't believe everything I post, but its up to the individual to take what they will of it.

WWW111 is not going to happen.

Ch

[amor]

In one of the youtube videos of a US/Putin meeting, Mr. Putin very sensibly made the observation that formerly when agreements were made between the two governments relating to the use of atomic weapons, these weapons could not be carried by small missiles as they can today. Also, with Russia surrounded by NATO and other US bases, they are perfectly correct in feeling that these smaller delivery systems at such close range place them in a position where they feel threatened and must take the appropriate action to defend themselves. It is the NWO, represented by NATO, etc., which has surrounded Russia.

In addition, I heard on the radio that the bombing of the city in Syria has now isolated ISIS to three square blocks, although the collateral damage has been terrible. At this point they should be allowed to finish the job. They, after all, have no requirement to drag out the war in order to support the military industrial complex and its evil bankers. Both Russia and any other middle eastern countries which wish an oil/gas line to Europe should be allowed passage for their lines; for if they do not share the business with each other, there will surely be no people left either to deliver or use the product delivered. Atomic release is a permanent poison to our Biosphere which is killing the Krill which support life in the ocean which supports us. What good is OIL when your are DEAD.

[bluestflame]

found this on rfid chips and use of drones http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_implants11.htm


First it was cattle. Then it was pets. Then Mexicans. Now the tribal areas of Pakistan where the CIA is equipping Pakistani tribesmen with secret transmitters to call in air-strikes targeting al-Qaida and Taliban militants.

A drone, guided by the signal from the chip, destroys the building with a salvo of missiles scattering body parts everywhere.

Will Americans and the rest of the "free world" be next? Long perceived as a crazy conspiracy theory, radio-frequency identification chips (RFID) have surreptitiously penetrated every aspect of society and may soon literally get under our skin for full-spectrum control.

Back to Orwell... "The future is now" as Burghardt admonishes!


What Pentagon theorists describe as a "Revolution in Military Affairs" (RMA) leverages information technology to facilitate (so they allege) command decision-making processes and mission effectiveness, i.e. the waging of aggressive wars of conquest.

It is assumed that U.S. technological preeminence, referred to euphemistically by Airforce Magazine as "compressing the kill chain," will assure American military hegemony well into the 21st century.

Indeed a 2001 study, [1] brought together analysts from a host of Pentagon agencies as well as,
defense contractors:
Boeing
Booz Allen Hamilton
MITRE Corporation
consultants from:
ThoughtLink
Toffler Associates
RAND Corporation,
...who proposed to do just.

As a result of this and other Pentagon-sponsored research, military operations from Afghanistan to Iraq and beyond aim for "defined effects" through "kinetic" and "non-kinetic" means:
leadership decapitation through preemptive strikes combined with psychological operations designed to pacify (terrorize) insurgent populations.
This deadly combination of high- and low tech tactics is the dark heart of the Pentagon's Unconventional Warfare doctrine.

In this respect, "network-centric warfare" advocates believe U.S. forces can now dominate entire societies through ubiquitous surveillance, an always-on "situational awareness" maintained by cutting edge sensor arrays as well as by devastating aerial attacks by armed drones, warplanes and Special Forces robosoldiers.



The chips are subdivided into two distinct categories, passive or active.

A passive tag doesn't contain a battery and its read range is variable, from less than an inch to twenty or thirty feet. An active tag on the other hand, is self-powered and has a much longer range. The data from an active tag can be sent directly to a computer system involved in inventory control - or weapons targeting.

It is hardly surprising then, that the Pentagon and the CIA have spent,
"hundreds of millions of dollars researching, developing, and purchasing a slew of 'Tagging tracking and locating' (TTL) gear," Wired reports.
Long regarded as an urban myth, the military's deployment of juiced-up RFID technology along the AfPak ('AfPak' is a neologism created within US foreign policy circles to designate Afghanistan and Pakistan as a single troublesome area.) border in the form of,
"tiny homing beacons to guide their drone strikes in Pakistan," has apparently moved out of the laboratory.

"Most of these technologies are highly classified" Wired reveals.

"But there's enough information in the open literature to get a sense of what the government is pursuing: laser-based reflectors, super-strength RFID tags, and homing beacons so tiny, they can be woven into fabric or into paper."
Some of the gadgets are already commercially available; if you're carrying around a phone or some other mobile gadget, you can be tracked - either through the GPS chip embedded in the gizmo, or by triangulating the cell signal.

Defense contractor EWA Government Systems, Inc. makes a radio frequency-based "Bigfoot Remote Tagging System" that's the size of a couple of AA batteries.

But the government has been working to make these terrorist tracking tags even smaller (below insert).

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/implant11_02.jpg

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[ghostrider]

For some reason Syria is the battlefield between Russia and America, one side wants Assad gone the other wants him to retain his position... Russia wants to end nation building as American has meddled in most middle eastern countries, trying to insert their puppet in power loyal to the five nations in five years agenda... it is only a matter of time before all the chaos the secret government has done , comes to the shores of North America... they can only blame themselves, you reap what you sow ... there is a reason they have been building deep underground military bases... to withstand nuclear war ...

[Sueanne47]

US Launches air strikes on Mosul Iraq :

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US refuelling tankers take to the skies for war :

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[Sueanne47]

Obama planning a major military event?? also more on RT bank accounts blocked:

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[greybeard]

Anonymous - Putin EXPOSES World War 3 Plan 2016

From the horses mouth so to speak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O02xUZH2CPM

[Baby Steps]

a lot of military planes said to be landing at uk bases....

[Sueanne47]

Kremlin insider Sergei Markov tells people to stockpile :

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[Sueanne47]

Russia starts ceasefire only to have Coalition break it :

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US & UK say Russia's offer is too little too late!

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[Wind]

Not that I buy into it...

http://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/10/14/all-prophecies-say-about-our-future/

[Sueanne47]

I'd like to vaporise this monster :

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[Sueanne47]

Nato troops face to face with Russian Nuclear Missiles :

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Russian Military moves off the Internet :

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[Sueanne47]

Russia's war games moves ICBM closer to europe :

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[Baby Steps]

There is probably only one human with the power to call a halt to this momentum. That is the POTUS. It has been said that Mr T could not have got this far without allies within the alphabet agencies and Pentagon. I think there is a pro peace, pro de-escalation faction that he is linked to. Who knows how much of the Military is of this inclination but I suspect MOST OF THEM.

How can they put the others on notice? Can they tell Russia to hold on?

A pathetic minnow like UK could help. If we just said - OK we are achieving F all in Syria, and risking war- let's just leave - that would have an impact. ARREST THE WARMONGERS!

[Sueanne47]

I watched a great interview between Kerry Cassidy and Tony Gosling - a former BBC reporter gone rogue today, they cover several subjects of what's going on atm, but Kerry said at the end "We do have positive ET's working behind the scenes on our behalf" and to me that's very encouraging to hear that!.

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[Sueanne47]

Rebels shell civilians in Aleppo amid humanitarian pause by Russian and Syrian Forces :

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[Sueanne47]

Turkey instigating war with Greece :

What is it with Turkey? who's side are they on?

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[Baby Steps]

LET'S BE CLEAR - WE DO NOT YET KNOW IF DNC WAS HACKED AT ALL! It may just be data from whistle blowers....

Biden smirks as he announces attacking Russia. W...T....F...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=751e6GHk3Us

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm not, for now anyway, worried that a major world war will happen.
Neither is Brandon Smith worried. He's one of the most astute commentators out there, right now, in my view.

In this article, Brandon gives a detailed explaination of why he doubts that a major nuclear war is in the cards: East vs. West Division Is About The Dollar - Not Nuclear War (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3039-east-vs-west-division-is-about-the-dollar-not-nuclear-war).

Brandon expects that the elite will crash the Dollar after the November 2016 US Presidential election, which will crush the US, as we have little else supporting our high standard of living than the reserve status of the US Dollar. If Trump wins the election, then, as with Brexit, conservative nationalists will be blamed for the collapse (which actually the elite have spent decades, at least, setting up.)

The elite want to own us, lock, stock and barrel planet, not to vaporize their home planet.

[greybeard]

I'm not, for now anyway, worried that a major world war will happen.
Neither is Brandon Smith worried. He's one of the most astute commentators out there, right now, in my view.

In this article, Brandon gives a detailed explaination of why he doubts that a major nuclear war is in the cards: East vs. West Division Is About The Dollar - Not Nuclear War (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3039-east-vs-west-division-is-about-the-dollar-not-nuclear-war).

Brandon expects that the elite will crash the Dollar after the November 2016 US Presidential election, which will crush the US, as we have little else supporting our high standard of living than the reserve status of the US Dollar. If Trump wins the election, then, as with Brexit, conservative nationalists will be blamed for the collapse (which actually the elite have spent decades, at least, setting up.)

The elite want to own us, lock, stock and barrel planet, not to vaporize their home planet.

I couldn't agree more Paul.
I hi lighted what, for me, is the main reason that I have no fear.
TPTB are not stupid or suicidal. They need us.

Chris

Ps when you have everything all thats left is the game they play.

[Harley]

I agree Paul and Greybeard, with one caviat:

The many agencies with Personal Egos who fall under the umbrella of the Elite PTB.

(It only takes one)

[Cidersomerset]

I posted this in error as its was for the bigger thread. I have kept off this one
to let other members have more of a say on this subject as I am concentrating
on the main thread. But now I've posted it I'l leave it.....

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‘Deep psychic need for an enemy and Putin is filling it’ – The Spectator Deputy Editor

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Published on 20 Oct 2016
More of the same front-page fear-mongering - this time British news magazine 'The Spectator'
puts Putin on the cover - with talk of invasion plans and propaganda tools. We want to know
'What is up!' - so we asked the Deputy Editor of The Spectator Freddy Gray

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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UK warships shadowing Russian naval task force
3 hours ago


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HMS Duncan (right) tracking a warship in the Russian taskforce

Two British warships are shadowing an aircraft carrier and other Russian naval ships
as they pass the UK on their way to Syria.The carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and its task
force are on a course to sail through the North Sea and English Channel.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said the ships would be "man-marked every step of
the way" while near UK waters.

However, Nato said Russia had the right to operate in international waters.

Read More...

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17E8/production/_92002160_russian_flotilla_map624_v2.png

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37719847


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Rebels don't let civilians flee Aleppo, shell humanitarian corridor with mortars

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Published on 20 Oct 2016
Islamist militants have shelled a ‘humanitarian corridor’ set up to allow civilians
to escape from eastern Aleppo, RIA Novosti reported. The shelling came amid a
ceasefire declared the by Syrian military and Russian Air Force.

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Published on 19 Oct 2016

President Assad to Swiss SRF1:

“.. Aleppo has been under siege for the last four years by the terrorists, and we
haven't heard a question by Western journalists about what's happening in Aleppo
that time, and we haven't heard a single statement by Western officials regarding
the children of Aleppo. Now, they are talking about Aleppo recently just because
the terrorists are in a bad shape. This is the only reason, because the Syrian Army
are making advancement, and the Western countries - mainly the United States
and its allies like UK and France - feeling that they are losing the last cards of
terrorism in Syria, and the main bastion of that terrorism today is Aleppo.”

[Sueanne47]

Listen all, we are not dealing with level-headed human beings here!!! these people in the US Gov. are satanic basket cases..they are NOT like us! :facepalm:

They put a monument up in Georgia, Atlanta about their Agenda (Georgia Guidestones) there is a piece written on it that people on the earth must be killed to reduce the pop. down to 500,000. That means 92% of the population!

Here is a video pub. 15 feb. 2013 of George Green (an elite insider) speaking about the iluminati plan to get a war started in the middle east, and planning to use a bomb on Israel to start WW3. Well maybe they changed their minds to Syria instead, but they want their 3rd temple built in Israel and they cant do that until the mosque on the site of Solomon's temple is destroyed.

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[greybeard]

Sueanne 47
The guide stones do not say that people on earth must be killed to reduce the population down to 500,000.
That was debunked on Avalon some time ago.

Ch

[TargeT]

Sueanne 47
The guide stones do not say that people on earth must be killed to reduce the population down to 500,000.
That was debunked on Avalon some time ago.

Ch

I think the use/context of the word "humanity" in that passage needs to be scrutinized.

Do the losers-in-charge consider us plebs people, human (they certainly don't treat us that way.. IMO)?

https://prof77.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/georgia-guidestones-top-commandments.jpg

but yes, we do have a good thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75168-The-Georgia-Guidestones-have-been-updated-w-2014&highlight=georgia+guide+stones) on this topic.

[greybeard]

Georgia Guidestones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones


Inscriptions

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones[8] in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Chris

[Sueanne47]

I found Bill's Transcript on the Anglo-Saxon Mission, which was quite long!

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_presentation_transcript_en.html

[Sueanne47]

Georgia Guidestones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones


Inscriptions

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones[8] in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Chris

Be not a cancer on the earth? ...what like them? that's weird they should write it in stone about truth/beauty/love! I dont understand these weirdo's

surely 'maintaining' (looking after) humanity under 500,000,000 means that first they have to 'get' 500,000,000 how is that debunked Chris?

[greybeard]

It was debunked that the guide stones specifically promoted killing people.
By debunked I mean found to be untrue--the statement you used was used before also miss quoting what is on the stones.
The Internet is full of theories but not much fact.

There is no evidence what soever, that I know of, that the stones were commissioned by the Illuminate or anyone with evil intent.

You can read evil intent or take that some well intended, perhaps naive, person was giving advice to future generations.
The fact that so many languages were used is perhaps an indication of advice to the whole world.
There could be an assumption that the guidelines were put there in case there was a near extinction of the human race by any cause natural included--there have been near extinction events before.

Im not saying my thoughts are correct just an alternative way of looking at the stones.

Ch

[Sueanne47]

Did you know about the time capsule underneath it?

On the stone it says:

Time capsule
Placed six foot below this spot
On
To be opened on

Explained here : (with a big stain on the top of the stones)

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[greybeard]

Yes I knew about the time capsule Sueanne 47
I watched the video-- nothing new as such just much is implied about the stain on top.

Incidentally Yoko Ono was a supporter of what she saw as a positive message with the stones -ie "An age of reason."

from post no 157.
‘Deep psychic need for an enemy and Putin is filling it’ – The Spectator Deputy Editor

Ch

[Sueanne47]

We saw a battleship out to sea off Norfolk's Walcott beach this evening, we took Milly for a run on the beach. There's a Russian flotilla on its way round here to the med :

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[Sueanne47]

Getting back to the Time Capsule, there is a very interesting thread about it from abovetopsecret,
there is a theory from georgiaguidestones.com (interesting speculation) :

The 2nd post says :

The Georgia Guidestones are incomplete, new stones are to be added to the site.
That means the sponsors of the stone intend to have a ceremony after the climax event,
that levels the population of the human race to half a billion.

The climax event is going to take place soon,

The climax event is going to involve changes in the fixed heavens.

The new stones shall mark the earth's orientation to the new heavens.

The dates for the new calendar are to be carved in the stone at that time.

Hang on! its going to be a wild ride ;-)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread803280/pg1

Someone suggested a pack of smokes & a bottle of Whiskey buried :biggrin1:

[Sueanne47]

Russian trucks moving Nuclear warheads near Tatishevo :

Also Steve says, "Russia also threatening North Korea, if they do not stop their own threats of using a pre-emptive strike of nuclear weapons, Russia said they will invade North Korea and take out everything they have" (!)

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[Sueanne47]

Clinton's revealing of nuclear launch response time, puts America at risk :

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The Pentagon are furious :

http://libertynews.com/2016/10/pentagon-officials-furious-after-clinton-announces-us-response-time-for-nuclear-launch-during-debate/

[Sueanne47]

Putin issues Ultimatum to US while Turkey crosses Syrian red line :

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Civilians trapped in East Aleppo, humanitarian crossings under fire :

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[lucidity]

As a matter of "Business as Usual":

‘Limited & proportionate’: Obama vows to continue ‘self-defense’ strikes in Yemen (https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/)

Published time: 15 Oct, 2016 00:30
Edited time: 15 Oct, 2016 04:51
Get short URL (http://on.rt.com/7ryv)




https://www.sott.net/image/s17/351086/large/58017462c361888c638b4616.jpg
A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) is launched from the guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill. File photo. © U.S. Navy / Reuters



Washington reserves the right to strike targets in Yemen whenever “necessary and appropriate,” President Obama told Congress after the US military carried out its first direct attack in the bloody conflict, using the pretext of self-defense.
TrendsYemen unrest (https://www.rt.com/trends/yemen-houthis-military-conflict/)

This week, for the first time since the 18-month-old conflict began, USS Nitze launched Tomahawk cruise missiles at targets in Yemen in retaliation for alleged attacks on the US Navy. The initial Pentagon assessment said that the “self-defense” attack resulted in the destruction of three radar sites, with no indications of civilian casualties.


On Friday US President Barack Obama informed Congress about authorizing the strikes “in response to anti-ship cruise missile launches perpetrated by Houthi insurgents.” In the “War Powers Resolution” letter (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/14/letter-president-war-powers-resolution), Obama stated that US armed forces targeted radar facilities which the US believes had been involved in “the October 9 launches and other recent attacks.”

“These limited and proportionate strikes were conducted to protect our personnel and our ships and will preserve our freedom of navigation in this important maritime passageway,” Obama explained.


[...]


Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/

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... that's "First Strikes" under the guise of "Retaliations."

It's good to see that the USA has the courage to stand up to Yemen.

Yemen ! ... just another impoverished bully in the middle east. :-|

[Baby Steps]

https://youtu.be/L3znA-ENsQo

Turkey and Saudi have nukes?

https://youtu.be/qY8BiE4Wd9c

[Sueanne47]

Train load of tanks cross Ukraine :

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Elements of the Syrian war :

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Steven says the religious countries are being attacked to bring in the one world religion. "The US & Nato are using Turkey to be a part of setting up their NWO.
They are Sunni's BTW, they are a Nato member.

If this is who he is going to use to muster his military power, when it comes time for God to strike Israel...they will use Turkey to do it with. And the leader will be coming right out of the Vatican"

[lucidity]

https://youtu.be/L3znA-ENsQo

Turkey and Saudi have nukes?

https://youtu.be/qY8BiE4Wd9c

Turkey is not one of the nations that supposedly has nukes.

A detail that isn't widely reported in MSM is that Turkey
currently has a huge military presence in Syria which is
just north of Allepo.

Russia has basically said, to Turkey, don't go near Allepo
or you'll be viewed as the enemy and subject to bombing.
(So potentially a conflict between Russia and Turkey
-- remember the downing of the Russian plane by Turkey
earlier this year ?)

So my view about Turkey is that this might be propaganda
(part of the ongoing information war)
Or .. it might conceivably be true. With the different sets of disunited
psychos running the USA military... pentagon, CIA, NWO/cabal ...
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if someone's handed Turkey some nukes
to play with.... viz.. one of the USA factions or Israel.

However, when Saudi Arabia wanted to nuke Yemen last summer,
nobody gave the Saudi's nukes. Instead, Israel nuked Yemen on
Saudi's behalf. Would that same pattern be repeated with Turkey ?
Or would Israel somehow 'sneak' nukes into the hands of the Turks ?

We don't know.. But.. if this story is true, and given the recent tensions
between Russia and Turkey, and the proximity of the Turkish divisions
to Allepo... yeah.. it's possible. And maybe we'll soon be hearing
about Russia vs Turkey military engagements... and then what ? Nukes ?

TPTB would love to embroil Russia in a larger proxy war in Syria.
So this scenario is conceivable.


As for Saudi Arabia... they dont 'officially' have nukes.
But... last year there was the story that some 'deal' or 'understanding'
existed between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia .. to the effect, Pakistan
would supply nukes to Saudia Arabia. So the possibility exists
that that agreement has now been honoured.

So it's possible that one or both of Turkey and Saudi Arabia have nukes.


But... if you hear reports of nukes exploding in Syria... start thinking about
moving into a nice cottage in Bill Ryan's neighbourhood. Because that's when
the potential for the sh!t hitting the fan goes up exponentially.... IMHO.

[Sueanne47]

Turkey is part of the Nato Nuclear Weapon sharing agreement, so is Belgium, Germany, Italy & the Netherlands. Saudi Arabia *may* have nukes from Pakistan, and Israel has them.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

[ozmirage]

Instead of WWIII, a collapse of socialism would prove catastrophic.

After the collapse of socialism, where there is no public charity, no retirement pensions, and one’s family will be the only means of support when one is old and infirm, imagine the consequences of THAT!

[Sueanne47]

Why are Putin's Russian Satan Nukes pointed at the US :

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[Cara]

Here is an alternative view about the "imminence" of WWIII.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_titulos/sociopol_globalmilitarism210.gif

From http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalmilitarism210.htm, which in turn sources it from http://anonhq.com/

The world is being fooled into believing by the United States of America and Russia, as well as the fear mongering media, that the two countries are ready to destroy humanity with World War III.

However, here are a few questions you must ask - or facts you must ponder over - before you believe the threat of WWIII is real…

How Do You Know WWIII is on the Horizon?
Because of the way facts have been misreported.

Consider these stories:

China Orders Citizens to Prepare for War (http://anonhq.com/ww-iii-horizon-china-orders-citizens-prepare-peoples-war-sea/):
It is no secret that China considers the United States as the force behind the Philippines' move to take the South China Sea to the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which ultimately ruled that China's claim in the South China Sea is invalid and unlawful.

However, since China deployed warships and submarines close to the disputed area and even conducted extensive live ammunition drills, the mainstream media twisted Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan's words to convey that he called for citizens to prepare for a "people's war at sea (http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0802/c90000-9094376.html)" to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Russia Orders Citizens to Prepare for Nuclear War (http://anonhq.com/russian-government-orders-40-million-citizens-prepare-nuclear-war/):
After the United States severed diplomatic ties with Russia over Syria following the collapse of a cease-fire agreement, Russian authorities conducted a massive civil defense drill involving 40 million people.

The mainstream media was quick to term the exercise - held annually since 2012 on October 4, which is Civil Defense Day in Russia (in fact, it involved over 60 million people in 2013 (https://www.rt.com/news/361553-russia-civil-defense-drill/)) - as the country's way of preparing its citizens for a possible nuclear war with the United States.

The so-called responsible media further tried to create panic by claiming that the country had already built underground shelters to protect over 12 million people in Moscow, in case there is an attack from the United States (well, Russia is not the only country who has underground shelters (http://anonhq.com/russia-prepares-citizens-nuclear-war-united-states-builds-huge-underground-shelters/) to protect its citizens during natural or man-made disasters).

America Admits WWIII is Around the Corner (http://anonhq.com/pentagon-finally-admits-ww3-around-corner-reveals-will-fast-deadly-human-history/):
According to the mainstream media, since the United States is losing the proxy war with Russia in Syria, it aims to overthrow the Syrian government that has the Russian backing.

Since Russia deployed its nuclear-capable Iskander missiles at Kaliningrad, which borders Estonia, Poland and Lithuania (NATO members), it was reported that the United States tested two dummy nuclear bombs (http://anonhq.com/united-states-drops-2-dummy-nuclear-bombs-nevada-month/) in the Nevada desert to show its military might.

The world went berserk after it was reported that Pentagon finally confessed that WWIII was inevitable and that it will be extremely lethal and fast.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

Is the Threat of WWIII Real?

Highly unlikely. Because friendly nations do not go to war over ego - or non-issues.

Consider these facts:
1. Interconnected Economies:

China is United States' largest goods trading partner (https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china) with $598 billion in total goods trade during 2015.
Goods exports totaled $116 billion; goods imports totaled $482 billion. Chinese companies are expected to invest $20 billion to $30 billion in the United States in 2016 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-investment-in-u-s-economy-set-for-record-but-political-concerns-grow-1460422802), compared with $15 billion in 2015 and $11.9 billion in 2014.
Despite the Ukraine/Crimea related sanctions, the bilateral America-Russia trade turnover in 2014 amounted to $29.2 billion (http://www.russianembassy.org/page/russian-american-business-cooperation), which is 7.2% higher in comparison with 2013.
Russian exports to America was $18.5 billion, while American exports to Russia was $10.7 billion.

2. Partners in Space:

The government of United States cannot go on a full-scale war with Russia because its astronauts are depended on Russian Soyuz flights to reach the International Space Station.
The Pentagon will need to buy (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-space-russia-idUSKCN0X600H) up to 18 more Russian-built RD-180 engines to power rockets carrying U.S. military satellites into space until at least 2022.
Though NASA is banned from engaging in bilateral agreements and coordination with China regarding space, it is in the interests of U.S. national security to engage in space cooperation with China (http://www.space.com/29671-china-nasa-space-station-cooperation.html).

3. Connecting People:

Beijing is on course to build a massive 8000-mile high-speed train line (http://anonhq.com/china-plans-8000-mile-high-speed-train-to-america-via-125-mile-undersea-tunnel/) connecting China, Russia, Canada, and the United States via a 125-mile underwater tunnel for at least $2 trillion.
The entire trip is expected to take two days, with the train traveling at an average of 220 miles per hour.
On its part, Russia is planning the world's greatest superhighway (http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/24/travel/trans-siberian-road/) connecting the country's eastern border with the American state of Alaska, crossing a narrow stretch of the Bering Sea that separates Asia and North America.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol2/globalmilitarism210_02_small.jpg

Even if WWIII Happens, What Would They Get?

Syria? South China Sea?

Absolutely nothing, because there is nothing to fight for.

Nations fight for supremacy, to snatch each others prized possessions, or claim their rights on an oil-rich nation. America and Russia are already superpowers. China is an economic powerhouse. So there is no fight for supremacy.

Altercations over South China Sea have no power to snowball into a full-fledged war.

As far as Syria is concerned, if the Cuban missile crisis, the Kosovo War, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Crimea, Palestine, and even Cold War could not incite WWIII, do you really believe Syria can?

If India and Pakistan - two nuclear powers with all the reasons to go on war with each other - can avoid a conflict with global implications, why can't America, Russia, and China?

Then Why are They Hinting at WWIII?

To fool us. To deflect from real issues they are accountable for.

The United States has failed to (http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/07/11/474725/iran-velayati-jcpoa-us-obligations),

honor its commitment to lift anti-Iran sanctions
ensure freedom of trade
encourage scientific, technological, and business ties between Iran and Western countries


NATO countries have failed to meet defense spending promises.

As of 2016, the United States spends more than $600 billion annually to fund its military forces and Overseas Contingency Operations, which is about 40% of the world's military expenditures.

According to the 2015 (http://editorials.voa.gov/a/russian-human-rights-abuses-continue/3303182.html) Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, Russia's authoritarian government,

restricts citizens' right to choose their leadership in free and fair elections
selectively prosecutes racial, ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities and migrant workers
deny [sic] due process to defendants in politically motivated cases
fails to protect human rights


For more than a decade, Russia has been attempting to diversify, innovate and modernize its economy (http://www.russia-direct.org/analysis/why-russia-fails-cope-resource-curse), but has failed disastrously; calls to develop long-neglected sectors of the economy continue unheeded.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3glzaq3Tkw

Do You Think the "At-War" Countries Can Afford the Real Cost of Mutually Assured Destruction?

The First World War killed over 38 million people and cost about $186 billion in direct costs and $151 billion in indirect costs.

The Second World War killed over 60 million people and cost $341 billion to the U.S. and $192 billion to the Soviet Union alone, in 1945. The U.S. has killed more than 20 million people (http://anonhq.com/war-on-terror-lest-we-forget-the-u-s-coup-detat/) in 37 "victim nations" since World War II.

Russia is not at war with anyone. America is.

However,

Does the country really need direct confrontation with Russia to unleash new terror?
And, is Russia really ready for WWIII?


A Reddit user writes (https://www.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/55xisq/debunkthis_putin_preparing_for_ww3/):

Putin is in no respect prepared for a conventional war. His country could not afford it, is not adequately equipped to conduct it, and it would backfire spectacularly.
This inward-facing propaganda is intended to stoke panic and fear within his own population, very much in keeping with how Putin has conducted himself so far.


Corruption, censorship, national debt, police atrocities, 9/11 conspiracy theories, US presidential elections, and the petrodollar are a few of the numerous issues the two countries want to shift your focus from and make you believe that WWIII is imminent because of tensions in Syria and at the South China Sea.

https://youtu.be/MLwIErQYYf4

Why WWIII will Almost Certainly Never Happen

The Week observes (http://theweek.com/articles/449783/dont-worry-world-war-iii-almost-certainly-never-happen):


The possibility of complete annihilation provides a huge disincentive to launching and expanding total wars.

Sure, accidents could happen, but the possibility is incredibly remote. More importantly, nobody in power wants to be the cause of Armageddon.

The level of economic adaptation - even for large countries like Russia and the United States with lots of land and natural resources - required to adapt to a world war would be crushing, and huge numbers of business and livelihoods would be wiped out.

It is clear at least that the incentives for world war are far lower than they were in previous decades, and the disincentives are growing.

This could very well be called Cold War II, but that won't serve America's or Russia's purpose.

The bullies are just fooling around.

How do disaster preparedness drills suppose to mean WWIII?
How do only Syria and South China Sea become bone of contentions and not Kashmir, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, ISIS or North Korea?


Don't close your eyes and think tensions are not there. Instead, open your eyes and see why they are there. Stop this fear mongering.

Don't let a few countries decide your future, at least not through war...

Sources

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/09/russia-downplays-moving-nuclear-capable-missiles-to-kaliningrad
http://anonhq.com/russia-defense-systems-place-us-led-coalition-line-fire-syrian-army-attacked/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/04/fact-sheet-us-china-economic-relations
http://www.russia-direct.org/analysis/how-educational-exchanges-adjust-crisis-us-russia-relations
http://www.businessinsider.in/RANKED-The-worlds-20-strongest-militaries/1-United-States/slideshow/51930374.cms

[lucidity]

Instead of WWIII, a collapse of socialism would prove catastrophic.

After the collapse of socialism, where there is no public charity, no retirement pensions, and one’s family will be the only means of support when one is old and infirm, imagine the consequences of THAT!

Haven't we had news already that Pension funds have been raided
following the banking crisis.

Maybe we're already in that situation.. even without WW3.

[Stryder]

With all the control of media especially in the states, it seems to me that an illusion of ww3 would facilitate the intentions surrounding the economy and seating a nwo monkey, Just as the real thing would. I'd also say Imo only, that the cooler heads of past generations have been systematically removed or greatly dwindled. Again only my opinion but those at the top could without breaking a sweat start either real or controlled ww3 and just run the information accordingly. It's not out of the realm of the possible that by compartmentation of information and news between states and citezens, On a large scale would give all the cover thats needed. Thisbelwction is a prime example.Regardless
Who was behind latest Internet "slow down" for lack of a better word, one thing was made clear, without the real time communication we've all become acustom to of last decade. 24 hours of destruction could go on in the west coast before we on the east coast so much as get a EBS alert if wanted.

[greybeard]

WW111 is not going to hapen --if it had happened you would not be breathing in and out--you would not be reading this. (smiling)
It would end as rapidly as it began. No one left to claim a victory.
The body might get vaporized but what you are will continue as it did before you were born into a human form.
Why be concerned about that .
Yes be concerned about what others are going through, even in your home town, misery is not confined to wars.

Ch

[greybeard]

Here is an alternative view about the "imminence" of WWIII.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_titulos/sociopol_globalmilitarism210.gif

From http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalmilitarism210.htm, which in turn sources it from http://anonhq.com/

The world is being fooled into believing by the United States of America and Russia, as well as the fear mongering media, that the two countries are ready to destroy humanity with World War III.

However, here are a few questions you must ask - or facts you must ponder over - before you believe the threat of WWIII is real…

How Do You Know WWIII is on the Horizon?
Because of the way facts have been misreported.

Consider these stories:

China Orders Citizens to Prepare for War (http://anonhq.com/ww-iii-horizon-china-orders-citizens-prepare-peoples-war-sea/):
It is no secret that China considers the United States as the force behind the Philippines' move to take the South China Sea to the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which ultimately ruled that China's claim in the South China Sea is invalid and unlawful.

However, since China deployed warships and submarines close to the disputed area and even conducted extensive live ammunition drills, the mainstream media twisted Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan's words to convey that he called for citizens to prepare for a "people's war at sea (http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0802/c90000-9094376.html)" to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Russia Orders Citizens to Prepare for Nuclear War (http://anonhq.com/russian-government-orders-40-million-citizens-prepare-nuclear-war/):
After the United States severed diplomatic ties with Russia over Syria following the collapse of a cease-fire agreement, Russian authorities conducted a massive civil defense drill involving 40 million people.

The mainstream media was quick to term the exercise - held annually since 2012 on October 4, which is Civil Defense Day in Russia (in fact, it involved over 60 million people in 2013 (https://www.rt.com/news/361553-russia-civil-defense-drill/)) - as the country's way of preparing its citizens for a possible nuclear war with the United States.

The so-called responsible media further tried to create panic by claiming that the country had already built underground shelters to protect over 12 million people in Moscow, in case there is an attack from the United States (well, Russia is not the only country who has underground shelters (http://anonhq.com/russia-prepares-citizens-nuclear-war-united-states-builds-huge-underground-shelters/) to protect its citizens during natural or man-made disasters).

America Admits WWIII is Around the Corner (http://anonhq.com/pentagon-finally-admits-ww3-around-corner-reveals-will-fast-deadly-human-history/):
According to the mainstream media, since the United States is losing the proxy war with Russia in Syria, it aims to overthrow the Syrian government that has the Russian backing.

Since Russia deployed its nuclear-capable Iskander missiles at Kaliningrad, which borders Estonia, Poland and Lithuania (NATO members), it was reported that the United States tested two dummy nuclear bombs (http://anonhq.com/united-states-drops-2-dummy-nuclear-bombs-nevada-month/) in the Nevada desert to show its military might.

The world went berserk after it was reported that Pentagon finally confessed that WWIII was inevitable and that it will be extremely lethal and fast.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

Is the Threat of WWIII Real?

Highly unlikely. Because friendly nations do not go to war over ego - or non-issues.

Consider these facts:
1. Interconnected Economies:

China is United States' largest goods trading partner (https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china) with $598 billion in total goods trade during 2015.
Goods exports totaled $116 billion; goods imports totaled $482 billion. Chinese companies are expected to invest $20 billion to $30 billion in the United States in 2016 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-investment-in-u-s-economy-set-for-record-but-political-concerns-grow-1460422802), compared with $15 billion in 2015 and $11.9 billion in 2014.
Despite the Ukraine/Crimea related sanctions, the bilateral America-Russia trade turnover in 2014 amounted to $29.2 billion (http://www.russianembassy.org/page/russian-american-business-cooperation), which is 7.2% higher in comparison with 2013.
Russian exports to America was $18.5 billion, while American exports to Russia was $10.7 billion.

2. Partners in Space:

The government of United States cannot go on a full-scale war with Russia because its astronauts are depended on Russian Soyuz flights to reach the International Space Station.
The Pentagon will need to buy (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-space-russia-idUSKCN0X600H) up to 18 more Russian-built RD-180 engines to power rockets carrying U.S. military satellites into space until at least 2022.
Though NASA is banned from engaging in bilateral agreements and coordination with China regarding space, it is in the interests of U.S. national security to engage in space cooperation with China (http://www.space.com/29671-china-nasa-space-station-cooperation.html).

3. Connecting People:

Beijing is on course to build a massive 8000-mile high-speed train line (http://anonhq.com/china-plans-8000-mile-high-speed-train-to-america-via-125-mile-undersea-tunnel/) connecting China, Russia, Canada, and the United States via a 125-mile underwater tunnel for at least $2 trillion.
The entire trip is expected to take two days, with the train traveling at an average of 220 miles per hour.
On its part, Russia is planning the world's greatest superhighway (http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/24/travel/trans-siberian-road/) connecting the country's eastern border with the American state of Alaska, crossing a narrow stretch of the Bering Sea that separates Asia and North America.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol2/globalmilitarism210_02_small.jpg

Even if WWIII Happens, What Would They Get?

Syria? South China Sea?

Absolutely nothing, because there is nothing to fight for.

Nations fight for supremacy, to snatch each others prized possessions, or claim their rights on an oil-rich nation. America and Russia are already superpowers. China is an economic powerhouse. So there is no fight for supremacy.

Altercations over South China Sea have no power to snowball into a full-fledged war.

As far as Syria is concerned, if the Cuban missile crisis, the Kosovo War, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Crimea, Palestine, and even Cold War could not incite WWIII, do you really believe Syria can?

If India and Pakistan - two nuclear powers with all the reasons to go on war with each other - can avoid a conflict with global implications, why can't America, Russia, and China?

Then Why are They Hinting at WWIII?

To fool us. To deflect from real issues they are accountable for.

The United States has failed to (http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/07/11/474725/iran-velayati-jcpoa-us-obligations),

honor its commitment to lift anti-Iran sanctions
ensure freedom of trade
encourage scientific, technological, and business ties between Iran and Western countries


NATO countries have failed to meet defense spending promises.

As of 2016, the United States spends more than $600 billion annually to fund its military forces and Overseas Contingency Operations, which is about 40% of the world's military expenditures.

According to the 2015 (http://editorials.voa.gov/a/russian-human-rights-abuses-continue/3303182.html) Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, Russia's authoritarian government,

restricts citizens' right to choose their leadership in free and fair elections
selectively prosecutes racial, ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities and migrant workers
deny [sic] due process to defendants in politically motivated cases
fails to protect human rights


For more than a decade, Russia has been attempting to diversify, innovate and modernize its economy (http://www.russia-direct.org/analysis/why-russia-fails-cope-resource-curse), but has failed disastrously; calls to develop long-neglected sectors of the economy continue unheeded.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3glzaq3Tkw

Do You Think the "At-War" Countries Can Afford the Real Cost of Mutually Assured Destruction?

The First World War killed over 38 million people and cost about $186 billion in direct costs and $151 billion in indirect costs.

The Second World War killed over 60 million people and cost $341 billion to the U.S. and $192 billion to the Soviet Union alone, in 1945. The U.S. has killed more than 20 million people (http://anonhq.com/war-on-terror-lest-we-forget-the-u-s-coup-detat/) in 37 "victim nations" since World War II.

Russia is not at war with anyone. America is.

However,

Does the country really need direct confrontation with Russia to unleash new terror?
And, is Russia really ready for WWIII?


A Reddit user writes (https://www.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/55xisq/debunkthis_putin_preparing_for_ww3/):

Putin is in no respect prepared for a conventional war. His country could not afford it, is not adequately equipped to conduct it, and it would backfire spectacularly.
This inward-facing propaganda is intended to stoke panic and fear within his own population, very much in keeping with how Putin has conducted himself so far.


Corruption, censorship, national debt, police atrocities, 9/11 conspiracy theories, US presidential elections, and the petrodollar are a few of the numerous issues the two countries want to shift your focus from and make you believe that WWIII is imminent because of tensions in Syria and at the South China Sea.

https://youtu.be/MLwIErQYYf4

Why WWIII will Almost Certainly Never Happen

The Week observes (http://theweek.com/articles/449783/dont-worry-world-war-iii-almost-certainly-never-happen):


The possibility of complete annihilation provides a huge disincentive to launching and expanding total wars.

Sure, accidents could happen, but the possibility is incredibly remote. More importantly, nobody in power wants to be the cause of Armageddon.

The level of economic adaptation - even for large countries like Russia and the United States with lots of land and natural resources - required to adapt to a world war would be crushing, and huge numbers of business and livelihoods would be wiped out.

It is clear at least that the incentives for world war are far lower than they were in previous decades, and the disincentives are growing.

This could very well be called Cold War II, but that won't serve America's or Russia's purpose.

The bullies are just fooling around.

How do disaster preparedness drills suppose to mean WWIII?
How do only Syria and South China Sea become bone of contentions and not Kashmir, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, ISIS or North Korea?


Don't close your eyes and think tensions are not there. Instead, open your eyes and see why they are there. Stop this fear mongering.

Don't let a few countries decide your future, at least not through war...

Sources

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/09/russia-downplays-moving-nuclear-capable-missiles-to-kaliningrad
http://anonhq.com/russia-defense-systems-place-us-led-coalition-line-fire-syrian-army-attacked/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/04/fact-sheet-us-china-economic-relations
http://www.russia-direct.org/analysis/how-educational-exchanges-adjust-crisis-us-russia-relations
http://www.businessinsider.in/RANKED-The-worlds-20-strongest-militaries/1-United-States/slideshow/51930374.cms

I have bumped this so it does not disappear

Thanks very much well researched and not dependent on videos,
Ch.

[Stryder]

When I say ww3 or ww111 I don't mean the old idea of all the nukes go off. To my knowledge there is no set definition for it. We could easily have a on going escalation crating all of the same issues without nukes.
To say flat out it can't happen is irresponsible at best.
While I agree we will not see everyone launch nukes it make no sense on any level. But let's be rational look at all the disinformation around Aleppo regardless what you believe, we can easily be led into an escalation with all the declarations and there corresponding actions without nukes going off. A simple liquidity crunch out of the idea of it could slow heating fuel to those in northern regions, etc etc. So while fear of nuclear winter is silly. The idea that's it's either a nuclear waste land or fields of green is just as silly. There's alot of open ground in between that can be easily used to achieve numerous goals. Total "whatever" is just a dangerous as "Omg the Russians are coming, run run" my apologies if poorly written done on tiny screen.

[Sueanne47]

Searcher, thank you for your contribution. Yes, it would be just great wouldnt it to think it would all just go away!! and we could get on with our lives as normal? however, those in power in the US (Rothschild Zionists) are *NOT* normal people!!

Killary, US Gen. Milley, Kirby, Kerry and others as well as Boris johnson, and Theresa May are all in the same boat making out Russia is at fault and causing the aggression....poking the bear all the time.

Havent you heard of the New World Order? this is what the western governments are implementing (or trying to) with Europe, the Middle East & America & the world. This is why we had a flood of 1000's of migrants that 70% were not genuine refugees..enter Europe to 'divide and conquer' - police state - order out of chaos - complete takeover of the population. America has now got an aggressive police state as well.

The Christian civilians all over the world are currently being persecuted by these Zionists..by using the Jihadists as a tool for removing them and removing God. In Syria, the muslim civilians were allowed to leave, but the Christian Syrians are being killed as we speak :

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The Zionists are hell bent on getting Assad out of Syria!!! how are they going to do that without Russia's involvement? every day the war there is escalating..

[Sueanne47]

A very good explanation by David :

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[greybeard]

Main media UK is not really mentioning Putin but concentration on Syria and refuge problem here
Ch

[greybeard]

A very good explanation by David :

Ruq4COO_g6s

That was posted in November 2015 but still valid.
Ch

[Sueanne47]

Putin : America is a great nation, not some banana republic, correct me if i'm wrong :

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[Sueanne47]

Russia says NATO built up offensive force on its borders :

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[Rich]

They are definitely planning a war, they put more and more military in Syria and around Russia for a reason.

[Sueanne47]

I *HATE* the british & US government for what they're doing to Russia, they are bringing all of us into it, and we cant find much detail of what's going on. :(

[mojo]

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[Sueanne47]

*FAB VIDEO* Mojo! thanks for finding that..

[Sueanne47]

Nato High Alert! 300,000 Troops : Very worrying!

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Same news from this guy :

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Is this fear disinfo or what :

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[sms]

Recently, I wrote The Survival Guide for the Case of a Nuclear Warfare (https://soulmindspirit.wordpress.com/), which could be quite helpful if WW3 breaks out.

:facepalm:

[Maia Gabrial]

Ask the people in the Middle East if WW3 is going on now.... They'll tell you it has.

[sms]

Ask the people in the Middle East if WW3 is going on now.... They'll tell you it has.
I went through one in exYugoslavia and I know how it feels like. Since then, I have been trying to figure out the mechanics behind the manipulation of the humanity. It seems that there is a ”third party” behind the wars (as William Bramley implied, long ago, in his book the Gods of Eden), which we are unaware of, and which may not be human, at all?! And, not just behind the wars, but behind the whole "show-program" on this planet!?