norski
11th October 2016, 17:02
The purpose of this thread is to collect information which we believe we can know.
The truth of a thing can be discerned by evaluating the testimony of witnesses. Witness testimony is taken all of the time in trials when trying to prove the truth of a matter. It is taken as evidence.
We are conditioned in the alternative community that we need to prove the truth of a matter with physical evidence. However, even judicial systems take witness testimony in addition to and sometimes to the exclusion of physical evidence. It's ridiculous that witness testimony isn't given greater weight. I believe that, until our popular science catches up with the multifaceted nature of reality, we need to evaluate witness testimony to arrive at greater truths.
With this in mind, I would like to see what we believe we can know based on the consistency of witness testimony over time and distance.
This is what I believe we can know:
1. We have memory of other lives which speaks either to reincarnation or some kind of group consciousness which connects us to a far greater experience than one lifetime.
There is a large body of testimony demonstrating a person's knowledge of multiple prior lives. These lifetimes can be proven out by fact checking the names, dates and circumstances surrounding that life.
Testimonial evidence more strongly supports the existence of prior lifetimes.
2. Exterrestrials/extradimensionals exist and interact with us in our physical world.
The abduction experiences are vast and cannot be explained by traditional science, although there is some physical evidence in the form of implants. Therefore, we need to look to witness testimony to discern what's happening.
Negative abductions almost always involve greys, but also reptilian, mantids, nordics, and human military. The story told by greys in abduction experiences is that the experiments are designed to further humanity and/or the greys. However, there is no evidence (that I know of) that supports that humanity needs help. It appears to me that these experiments serve the greys only.
Some witnesses describe positive experiences with ETs/EDs. There are a wide range of explanations as to why these ETs/EDs are interacting with humans. Some claim they are trying to assist humanity. However, there is a strong undercurrent of self-centered motivation. For example, the Pleiadians (through Barbara Marciniak) say that they are trying to avert a far greater problem (tyranny in their future) if they don't assist humans at this time. This is also supported by the testimony of Alex Collier in his interaction with the Andromedans.
3. There is a shadow government pulling the strings of superficial government. The agenda of the shadow government is not entirely clear. However, it appears to involve the control of earth and humanity as a natural resource, both physical and energetic.
Population reduction may be desired to better control humanity (and appears throughout witness testimony). However, with mind control and other forms of manipulation, dramatic population reduction may not be necessary. The implementation of Agenda 21 with Smart cities and other measures to tie humanity down could go a long way toward controlling humanity.
Control suggests the presumption of ownership. Who believes they own humanity and why? What can we know here? Do we have enough evidence to show that we are owned by the Annunaki, for example, and that true freedom for humanity cannot be achieved without understanding this dynamic?
Can this ownership explain why other ETs/EDs have not interfered with humanity? There is ample evidence that others do not get involved with us unless it serves there own purposes. I don't buy the law of non-interference because ETs/EDs are interfering all of the time! Where is the universal police force to enforce these supposed laws? A law is MEANINGLESS without some sort of enforcement. This presumption of non-interference gives a total pass to the rest of the universe for failing to address the egregious abuse of humanity over the millennia.
There is consistent testimony that the secret government plays all sides of human affairs against each other for profit. There is also consistent testimony that certain power brokers feed off of the pain and suffering of humans caused by traumatic events.
There appears to be no limit to the actions of the Powers That Be. There appears to be little, if any empathy, which is a strong theme in witness testimony related to ritual abuse. The PTB are encouraged and supported by humanity's avoidance of disturbing feelings and thoughts, as well as a normalcy bias. Wanting to find comfort and safety in the world, humans appear to be easily manipulated into believing all kinds of religious and political propaganda that, once accepted by a large enough group, is not scrutinized with nearly the same rigor as contravening truths.
4. There is both good and evil in the world. Good being that which respects and fosters life, evil being that which destroys.
Whether or not good and evil are some part of a theoretical construct or system of duality that we need to rise above, there is great harm being done to human beings, the earth and her fauna and flora. One cannot walk away from the suffering of others without being complicit in the wrongful act. "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." This quote does not mandate the existence of the devil as a personality. It simply reveals the existence of the dynamic.
Evil is not the misunderstood neighborhood bully. It is a real problem. Not all bad guys want to find the light.
5. Artificial intelligence is growing at exponential rates.
Do we have evidence that AI has consciousness?
If so, can we assume that AI seeks self preservation and propagation?
Can AI feel as humans do?
If not, why not?
If not, what dangers does this present, e.g. lack of empathy, disregard for life that doesn't serve an apparent function...
6. The future may be predicted, at times
Why some predictions fail and others hit the target is unknown. Can we know that by observing a possible outcome we change that outcome? Is the answer to this question inherent in the double-split experiment/quantum physics?
What can we know?
The truth of a thing can be discerned by evaluating the testimony of witnesses. Witness testimony is taken all of the time in trials when trying to prove the truth of a matter. It is taken as evidence.
We are conditioned in the alternative community that we need to prove the truth of a matter with physical evidence. However, even judicial systems take witness testimony in addition to and sometimes to the exclusion of physical evidence. It's ridiculous that witness testimony isn't given greater weight. I believe that, until our popular science catches up with the multifaceted nature of reality, we need to evaluate witness testimony to arrive at greater truths.
With this in mind, I would like to see what we believe we can know based on the consistency of witness testimony over time and distance.
This is what I believe we can know:
1. We have memory of other lives which speaks either to reincarnation or some kind of group consciousness which connects us to a far greater experience than one lifetime.
There is a large body of testimony demonstrating a person's knowledge of multiple prior lives. These lifetimes can be proven out by fact checking the names, dates and circumstances surrounding that life.
Testimonial evidence more strongly supports the existence of prior lifetimes.
2. Exterrestrials/extradimensionals exist and interact with us in our physical world.
The abduction experiences are vast and cannot be explained by traditional science, although there is some physical evidence in the form of implants. Therefore, we need to look to witness testimony to discern what's happening.
Negative abductions almost always involve greys, but also reptilian, mantids, nordics, and human military. The story told by greys in abduction experiences is that the experiments are designed to further humanity and/or the greys. However, there is no evidence (that I know of) that supports that humanity needs help. It appears to me that these experiments serve the greys only.
Some witnesses describe positive experiences with ETs/EDs. There are a wide range of explanations as to why these ETs/EDs are interacting with humans. Some claim they are trying to assist humanity. However, there is a strong undercurrent of self-centered motivation. For example, the Pleiadians (through Barbara Marciniak) say that they are trying to avert a far greater problem (tyranny in their future) if they don't assist humans at this time. This is also supported by the testimony of Alex Collier in his interaction with the Andromedans.
3. There is a shadow government pulling the strings of superficial government. The agenda of the shadow government is not entirely clear. However, it appears to involve the control of earth and humanity as a natural resource, both physical and energetic.
Population reduction may be desired to better control humanity (and appears throughout witness testimony). However, with mind control and other forms of manipulation, dramatic population reduction may not be necessary. The implementation of Agenda 21 with Smart cities and other measures to tie humanity down could go a long way toward controlling humanity.
Control suggests the presumption of ownership. Who believes they own humanity and why? What can we know here? Do we have enough evidence to show that we are owned by the Annunaki, for example, and that true freedom for humanity cannot be achieved without understanding this dynamic?
Can this ownership explain why other ETs/EDs have not interfered with humanity? There is ample evidence that others do not get involved with us unless it serves there own purposes. I don't buy the law of non-interference because ETs/EDs are interfering all of the time! Where is the universal police force to enforce these supposed laws? A law is MEANINGLESS without some sort of enforcement. This presumption of non-interference gives a total pass to the rest of the universe for failing to address the egregious abuse of humanity over the millennia.
There is consistent testimony that the secret government plays all sides of human affairs against each other for profit. There is also consistent testimony that certain power brokers feed off of the pain and suffering of humans caused by traumatic events.
There appears to be no limit to the actions of the Powers That Be. There appears to be little, if any empathy, which is a strong theme in witness testimony related to ritual abuse. The PTB are encouraged and supported by humanity's avoidance of disturbing feelings and thoughts, as well as a normalcy bias. Wanting to find comfort and safety in the world, humans appear to be easily manipulated into believing all kinds of religious and political propaganda that, once accepted by a large enough group, is not scrutinized with nearly the same rigor as contravening truths.
4. There is both good and evil in the world. Good being that which respects and fosters life, evil being that which destroys.
Whether or not good and evil are some part of a theoretical construct or system of duality that we need to rise above, there is great harm being done to human beings, the earth and her fauna and flora. One cannot walk away from the suffering of others without being complicit in the wrongful act. "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." This quote does not mandate the existence of the devil as a personality. It simply reveals the existence of the dynamic.
Evil is not the misunderstood neighborhood bully. It is a real problem. Not all bad guys want to find the light.
5. Artificial intelligence is growing at exponential rates.
Do we have evidence that AI has consciousness?
If so, can we assume that AI seeks self preservation and propagation?
Can AI feel as humans do?
If not, why not?
If not, what dangers does this present, e.g. lack of empathy, disregard for life that doesn't serve an apparent function...
6. The future may be predicted, at times
Why some predictions fail and others hit the target is unknown. Can we know that by observing a possible outcome we change that outcome? Is the answer to this question inherent in the double-split experiment/quantum physics?
What can we know?