View Full Version : John Lamb Lash - Sophia, Lucifer and the Mandela Effect
BMJ
12th October 2016, 16:31
I went threw some of the comments on the thread about JLL that Bill Ryan linked to and I am sorry to everyone for creating this thread I was not aware of his previous reputation, and so I edited my opening post deleting the video and description.
I was simply interested in his different prespective on the mandela effect being due to mother earth being responsible for this event, and thought it was an interesting perspective.
The Freedom Train
17th October 2016, 03:35
So this man is saying we must learn to become more "mantic" - to be like "mantis" - having a divinatory ability to KNOW what is coming, what is going to happen.
I just don't know about this.
First of all he is saying that THIS ABILITY TO DIVINE is what is going to save us, and that this ability entails OPENING UP TO communication from some entity.
I wonder how can we know whether or not to trust what this mysterious entity imparts to us via these messages? If we trust them, does that mean we are therefore carrying out an agenda that they have devised for us to follow? How do we know that would be in our best interests?
Also the term "mantic" concerns me, because I have personally had negative experiences with an implant that was placed by a mantid being (as seen by my clairvoyant friend - he saw both the implant, which was very difficult to remove and was put into my third eye chakra, and he saw the being that placed it there - what he described as a creature with "spindly" arms and legs. But he wasn't sure what it was. When I asked him if it was a mantid, he said yes, that is what he saw.) I would not have considered a mantid implant in my third eye a problem necessarily at the time. In fact, I may have even thought it a good thing - like hey they're decking me out with super powers! Cool! Except, that 1) I did not ask for it, and 2) it made me feel mentally unhinged, depressed, powerless, unbalanced, and foggy. I do not consider these to be good developments.
Seeing deeper meaning in synchronicities. I have come to find that I am not always sure what to trust in terms of "guidance" and "messages" - since I am aware (insofar as I can tell through my direct experience, and supported by my research) that mind control is real, that subliminal messaging is real, and that psychotronic infiltration is real. So I am fairly certain that we can be led to believe any number of things that are being sent to us as messages by a race or races that are more in touch with their own psychic abilities (ie not being mind ****ed), races that may or may not have the desire to help us become liberated individuals. And based on my personal experiences, I believe that these races DO NOT have our best interests at heart. If they did, then why aren't we already living in utpoia? What they are doing to us is psy warfare.
This man says he wants to form a clear view of divine intervention. HOW IN THE WORLD can any of us do this??? I just do not understand how we could ever logically get there. What many consider to be the "sum total" of reality (physical matter, what can be perceived with the physical senses) has been scientifically found to comprise of only about 4% of the universe. And if we are only barely scratching the surface with what we can see and know with our PHYSICAL senses, how can we possibly hope to LOGICALLY form a clear view of how the divine operates?? At least, with our current limited (psychically blocked and misdirected) abilities to perceive?
He says something about people who denounce satanist cults as being paranoid schizophrenics - which I consider to be a problem, as I have come to find that mental health boxes are boxes formed out of the desire of certain persons to uphold their opinions that they are superior in thought and deed, that their experience of reality is the ONLY valid reality. And, on top of that, I am sure that many people who don't normally follow these kinds of discussions would consider this man to be schizophrenic. So now I feel suspect of this man.
He goes on to defend satanism again by calling a man who was writing an expose on the topic "deranged."
Again, I think these defences - name calling of those who oppose what he is all about - to be spurious. He is telling those who listen to him: if you do not believe what I tell you, then you are either a paranoid schizophrenic, or deranged. These are red flags for me.
He talks about psychic rubbish and distortions, and I totally agree that this is happening. But I am not quite sure I follow his reasoning for it.
I feel like the way to save ourselves may not be via divining messages with our logical mind. It seems to be too convoluted a way. He says oh even a simpleton will be able to get the message. But clearly he is not a simpleton, and I know I am not, and I am having a hard time following his line of thinking. He uses the simpleton thing, referring to Forrest Gump, to prove his point. But the thing is, in my opinion, Gump did not triumph in life because he was able to pick up on verbal cues and follow them to the end. Yes, he did do that time and time again. But the reason WHY he was able to do it so successfully is because he was spurred on by his inner goodness, which was unsullied by a mind full of ponderings, doubts, misgivings, etc. So in his case, his rational mind was not getting in the way of his divine being - which is why others not of "simpleton" status who received the same verbal cues did not succeed as he did.
Distortions and illusions about evil. I do not think a Rothschild party containing occult ritual is made up nonsense meant to detract us from a deeper truth. We know they do these things. And we know that they control much of the wealth that could, if spread equally, make the world a different place. With great wealth comes great power, either to liberate the world, or to maintain status quo. I do not see any evidence of the Rothschilds attempting to liberate humanity. So with this in mind, I am already suspect of what they are doing. Why they would perform a ritual, in secret, that is actually only meant to confuse anyone outside of their circles into thinking that the "Sophia-Gaia mother human intuition whatever it is" is in fact evil? It makes no sense at all to me - because for one, they do not do it publicly. And leaks of what they do are not widely publicized in the media. So I do not consider what they do to be "nonsense," or to be a "silly trick" devised to demonize the "Gaia-Sophia whatever it is."
I have been trained as a shaman, have been blessed with prophetic dreams and a deep intuitive sense. I am a highly energetically sensitive being, and have had many "shamanic" experiences. What this man says about shamanism may be true, but he is glossing over something very important:
"The wounding of the shaman, an event recounted in world mythology, signifies a fateful break from this plenary connection. It indicates that our inborn intelligence was somehow disabled, so that direct participation in the grounding intelligence of Sacred Nature became scrambled, if not entirely disrupted. We lost our sense of how to survive with ease in our habitat. At the same time, we appear to have lost the sense of who we truly are as a species. The wounding of the shaman bespeaks our own fate, our alienation from the divine matrix that produced us. And the rest, needless to say, is our cherished history of moral progress, material acquisition and technical achievement."
He does not explain HOW this break came about (although I wonder at his subtle cue word, "alienation" above.) And this is my primary concern with this man. He speaks some truth, but then fudges a lot of his information and glosses over stuff that is really, in my opinion, of utmost importance, if we were ever able to really logically understand the who what where why and how of it all. He seems to enjoy blaming the apparent "insanity" of humanity on humanity. When I for one do not think our collective folly is borne out of ourselves - it seems to come from this mysterious "break" that Mr. Lash alludes to but does not explain. In my opinion, the only logical explanation is outside interference of a wholly unfriendly nature.
I do not think human fears alone can account for the presence of evil in this world. I just don't think it's all a projection. This does not ring true for me - at all.
The Freedom Train
17th October 2016, 04:01
This man also says there are no "demons" in the realm of the supernatural - that it is all from the imagination of the human mind. But where would these "crazy humans" have gotten these ideas from in the first place? Would these visions of demons not be intuitive insights, as opposed to psychotic imaginings? I do not think humans make up fantastical beings out of nowhere and nothing. What about the first person who directly experienced a "demon" or a "devil" in some way, and wrote about it or made a drawing of it? They are not drawing upon what they were taught to see, they were drawing upon a DIRECT EXPERIENCE. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A BELIEF (and Mr. Lash even says so on his website)
https://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/telestics/insaneinhumane.php
"It is essential to realize that shamans of yore did not merely hold beliefs about these matters, but actually experienced them. They actively explored what we must relegate to pure speculation. Lucid dreaming was one shamanic practice used to access the Otherworld. Anyone who has had a lucid dream knows that the experience really occurs you wake up in the dream, knowing that you are dreaming and so it is not merely something one believes might happen. With lucid dreaming, out-of-body travel, and near-death experience (three shaman-like activities attested by millions of people), you do not have to believe these experiences can happen for them to happen. Today the world is circumscribed and ruled largely by belief, but we, the human species, came into this blindered condition from a realm of open- ended experience beyond belief."
So, again. HOW can somebody who DIRECTLY EXPERIENCES some kind of attack from a malevolent force be IMAGINING it, when Mr. Lash himself seems to place such high esteem in the realm of direct experience, as the bastion of truly informed state of being? He is totally contradicting himself. Also, he assumes (or at least he IMPLIES he does - perhaps it is not so much an assumption as an either deliberate or unwitting delegitimization of other people's otherworldly experiences) that most of us must "relegate to pure speculation" what shamans directly experienced. I, for one, can say that I have had MANY of these experiences.
The Freedom Train
17th October 2016, 04:23
I do agree that fear is counterproductive to our development, however. So I totally agree with that. He says that the only evil in this world is done by "human animals"- the result of human action. HOW did we become evil though? And what of the direct experiences of those of us who have had malevolent attacks and encounters with other worldly beings, ET's, demons, astral beings, etc?
He does say there is a satanic entity - an inorganic cyborg species - living in the outer reaches of the solar system (archons/yahweh) that is the supernatural adversary for humanity..... and yet, people's demonic experiences are delusions? And people are the originators of their evildoings? I just don't get this guy. He may have some points about evil being distorted, but I simply cannot agree with his vigorous deligitimization of people's direct experiences (which, as I have already said before, are NOT beliefs. They are experiences.) And if he is acknowledging the presence of a supernatural adversary working through "human proxies" - then how can he blame humanity at large for its collective folly? Just makes no sense to me this guy.
Bill Ryan
17th October 2016, 08:56
I just don't know about this.
Well, here's where to find out more.
John Lash's Kalika war party (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78630-John-Lash-s-Kalika-war-party)
Anyone considering posting on this thread would be strongly recommended to read that entire one first, where there's a great deal of valuable information that everyone should know.
The Freedom Train
17th October 2016, 18:44
I went to his site and read about the warrior tribe class he is assembling. Very interesting information. I have considered myself a warrior for some time, but my specific mission has been unclear to me, as it is possibly in development still. My innermost desire is to free as many beings from suffering as possible. This is all. The question for me has always been - how?
When I found vipassana meditation and began to practice, I knew I had found an important tool. I have used it to clear several nefarious implants in my mind (that were felt by me initially during placement and while they were doing their "work" on me, and seen and confirmed by my clairvoyant friend.) I would like to reiterate that I am totally straightedge, and a highly sensitive clairsentient - meaning that I physically experience energies that are not normally readily perceived by the physical senses.
I have thought a lot more about this Lash person and what he was saying in this interview. I do not take back anything that I said. I stand firmly by it. While he speaks some truth, he is not getting to the meat of the issue for me. Rather, he dances around it.
Attack and blame. I made a discovery last night. And that discovery is this: LOVE is the answer. While I consider self defense to be entirely appropriate, I do not consider "attack" to be the way to go. You can call me a wimp or a pushover. You can say I am sticking my head in the sand of love. You can say, oh how dare you refuse to take action against these evils? But I say that LOVE is the most difficult and noble action one could take in the face of all that is going on today. My own personal experience has led me to see that what we are fighting is like a hydra. When you attack it, it merely grows more heads. The only way to truly "defeat" it, is to TRANSFORM it through love (ALA spiritual evolution). And indeed, the source of pure love has been slowly turning the tables on the evils that have infected its domain in just that way.
In my opinion, LOVE is the only answer. It is what we are all fighting for - isn't it? We are not thinking about joining a warrior class because we want to live forever in battle. We are signing up as warriors because we believe in the possibility of a better world. And the only way, in my humble opinion, that this better world can ever be achieved, is not through attack and playing the blame game, but through LOVE. Lest we recreate the evils that we are endeavoring to abolish (think of any human led revolution and the systems put into place following victory). In this "crazy" plan of mine, this mission of spiritual transmutation and liberation entails sending LOVE not only to fellow humans, but also to the Reps (our "creators"), Mantids, Greys, Archons, even to the evil SOURCE that started it all when it injected the Archons into the creation bubble of A DIFFERENT SOURCE that is absolutely and wholly comprised of pure love.
My assertions are informed by the realization that when speaking of sources of creation, it is a mistake to assume that there is ONLY ONE. Just take a look around on planet earth, and you will see that there are billions of sources of creation within the human population alone - each human being one of them. Ex: my daughter draws a picture. The picture is a creation, and she is a source. Another ex: a scientist makes a cloned rat in a laboratory. The rat is the creation, the scientist is the source.
The Freedom Train
17th October 2016, 19:16
In fact, it sounds like this Lash is preaching, not love, but hate. "What do you hate most deeply in what you see being done to harm humanity? This approach, if you can focus the hate, may lead you more rapidly than any other to your place in the bands of the Kalika War Party." http://kalikawarparty.org/thunderbird/
"17 Terma Guard....wrangle with anyone who tries to interfere.....name and shame enemies"
"7 Dhumavati...'Gives grief' to self-declared healers and other charlatans."
"8 Idris... Assigned to astral warfare, remote viewing attacks"
"The primary weapon of termination in the KWP is the Kalika lethal strike, a ritual method of killing at a distance, APA, in the absence of physical agency. Using this ritual, the Kalika strikes with no physical contact with the target, no intermediary, and no detectable weapon such as a gun, knife, explosive, etc. Application of the lethal strike is mandatory for the five bands of the first two ranks, and optional for all other bands. Anyone in the Party can use it, but due to the nature of the enemies to be engaged, these five front bands have to use it to accomplish their assignments and eliminate targets. Other members of the Party who opt out of this practice can participate without taking life, using forms of peaceful aggression such as dissent, sabotage, attack on lies, demolition of social agendas of deceit and division, and so forth."
All I hear from this man is attack, attack, attack.
"Rank Two...attack"
"12 Tantra Mother...attacking"
"6 Bhairavi...expose and eliminate....lethal strike"
"15 Visvamata....Targeting"
"5 Mirita...targets"
"11 Swan Devi....Targeting"
"10 Kamala...Targets"
"2 Tara....Targets"
"14 Vudasi, Panacea....Targets"
"7 Dhumavati....Targets"
Don't get me wrong - I think that the things he mentions as the targets of his attacks are evil, and need to changed. But again, I do not think attack is the way to go, for me. I do feel very strongly that the only real way to overcome these evils is transmute them through love. Plain and simple.
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