"V" for Vendetta: When PEOPLE Lose Everything, They Start To Lose It!

[jackovesk]

As Gerald Celente has often warned, when Americans lose everything, they will start to lose it, and nowhere was that more apparent than in the case of Clay Duke, the 56-year-old gunman who opened fire on school board members in protest against his wife being fired and his unemployment benefits running out.

Duke spray-painted a V for Vendetta sign on the wall before brandishing a gun and telling everyone apart from the school board members to leave the room. Watch what happened next in the video below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKVaHjFi9VA&feature=player_embedded#!


The response to this tragic series of events from both the establishment left and the establishment right will undoubtedly be to try and portray Duke as a nutcase conspiracy theorist whose views are an example of why free speech on the Internet needs to be curtailed, despite the fact that both on his Facebook page and another website he recommended, Duke promoted websites from across the political spectrum, including Media Matters, who are usually the first to exploit tragic events like these to sling mud at their political adversaries.

The fact that no one was injured and that Duke ultimately claimed his own life has contributed to him becoming a martyr in the Michael Douglas Falling Down mould rather than being considered a deranged lunatic, and Facebook pages in his honor are already attracting members. Duke was stopped when shots from a security guard wounded him, before he took his own life. Despite the fact that it was a gun that stopped the rampage, Time Magazine and others are already blaming the tragedy on the Second Amendment.

In a de-facto online suicide note posted on Facebook, Duke railed against the financial terrorists that prompted him to take such a drastic course of action.

“I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats… same-same… rich… they take turns fleecing us… our few dollars… pyramiding the wealth for themselves,” he wrote. “The 95%… the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us…”

Read rest of article here...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/when-americans-lose-everything-they-start-to-lose-it.html

[Beth]

I've seen quite a bit about this, and it just seems so contrived to me. And as my husband pointed out, if the security guard was ex-police officer he wouldn't have aimed for the gunman's legs.

And here's an interesting tidbit from a yahoo article:


Van Etten says the shooting was not "spur of the moment." Police also found anti-government paraphanelia in Duke's home.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_re_us/us_school_board_shooting

[Luke]

Perfect another reason for more clampdown and demonization.

I can understand the overwhelming frustration with status quo Frankly few years back and in similar circumstances I think I also would "gone postal".

What one need to understand, this is actually part of self-destructive programming we are all receiving. Goal is to turn us against ourselves or first line of "authorities" (usually low level muggers-in-suits), thus preventing us from doing any real damage, that can be accomplished my actions stemming from deep understanding of reality, via means inaccessible from "take as many bastards as possible with me" mental level.

Again - every single one of us- every single woman and man exposed to so called educational system has a "mental bomb" in their head, ready to go off if one starts to connecting the dots. It is DESIGNED like that, killing or maiming the person themselves, targets and any others that struggles to wake up (the "you do not want to end like this nut who read ***(put AJ, Ron Paul, David Icke, any other freedom-oriented writer found in perp's apartament) " factor)

Only one gaining from above are Archons themselves.

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-160499-thumb-zuox.jpg

appearing around the world...

I have one of these Masks, maybe we should have a V get together...

[Teakai]

I've seen quite a bit about this, and it just seems so contrived to me. And as my husband pointed out, if the security guard was ex-police officer he wouldn't have aimed for the gunman's legs.

And here's an interesting tidbit from a yahoo article:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215/ap_on_re_us/us_school_board_shooting

Hi Beth, I thought police were supposed to aim for the legs. It's the new improved low IQ cops that shoot to kill.

That stuff found at his place could have been planted there. Or he could have some Alex Jones show downloads on his PC.

I think Gerald Celente is right - and this is a case of when people lose everything - they lose it.

I think this is genuine because I wouldn't think the 'ptb' would want people to know just how crappy the economy is - it ruins the farce they're trying to pull off that the economy is bad, but no that bad and things are going to be looking up just round the corner.

It does have a sort of 'set-up' feel about it because you can;t hear what they're saying - but you can in this CNN clip.

http://www.infowars.com/when-americans-lose-everything-they-start-to-lose-it/

Chances are he was on anti-depressants, too - which wouldn't help his mindstate at all. Nope, just read that he couldn't afford it.

The news article does a pretty good job of demonising him. They would probably say the same about anyone of us posting here.
We would all probably be considered nut job conspiracy anarchists - bucking the system.

[Rocky_Shorz]

looking through the News, I see riots happening all over Europe, Italy Greece, Britain...

it's slowly happening like predicted...


LONDON - Scotland Yard will consider asking the Home Secretary to ban further student marches, should the levels of violence which have marred recent protests continue, Britain's most senior police officer said yesterday.

More than 180 people have been arrested after four protests in London against the Government's proposal to increase student fees.

story link (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10694589)

[Strat]

This was actually in my area, heard it on the local news.


Hi Beth, I thought police were supposed to aim for the legs. It's the new improved low IQ cops that shoot to kill.

I don't agree with knocking the intelligence of the police because they (the security guard) shot the man in the torso or wherever it was. The man needed to be put down. He was saying, "I'm going to kill you" after he just shot at a school board director at close range. He then proceeded to walk towards the members while saying, "Don't you get it? I'm going to kill you." That man needed to be put down. Would you want to stand in front of him and shoot at his legs? Keep in mind we're all just people, and most likely you would be completely terrified in that scenario. I probably would be.

Keep in mind it was school board members. They were regular people like us. I love all of yall, I really, really do, so don't take this post the wrong way. I'm just flabbergasted that yall are kind of jumping to his defense.

[Teakai]

This was actually in my area, heard it on the local news.



I don't agree with knocking the intelligence of the police because they (the security guard) shot the man in the torso or wherever it was. The man needed to be put down. He was saying, "I'm going to kill you" after he just shot at a school board director at close range. He then proceeded to walk towards the members while saying, "Don't you get it? I'm going to kill you." That man needed to be put down. Would you want to stand in front of him and shoot at his legs? Keep in mind we're all just people, and most likely you would be completely terrified in that scenario. I probably would be.

Keep in mind it was school board members. They were regular people like us. I love all of yall, I really, really do, so don't take this post the wrong way. I'm just flabbergasted that yall are kind of jumping to his defense.

I wasn't knocking it, Strat, just stating the facts - 'they' have lowered the IQ requirement of police cadet entry - and if you see what the police are getting up to (videotaped) in the alternative news, then it's pretty obvious that these guys aren't that smart.
Police who actually think aren't good for 'the system'.

I'm also not arguing about where the man was shot. I was just saying that police were trained to shoot in the legs back in the old days.

Yes, I imagine the whole scenario was dreadfully horrifying.

If you see my post as jumping to the defence of this guy - then you've read that into it all by yourself.

[Strat]

If you see my post as jumping to the defence of this guy - then you've read that into it all by yourself.

My apologies!

[Teakai]

My apologies!

No problem, Strat :)

[jackovesk]

The post headline should have read "V" for Vendetta: When PEOPLE Lose Everything, They Start To Lose It!"

I am not trying to be a Fearmonger here...I am merely pointing out the Fact, like all of us 'Enough is Enough', the PTB have forced their NWO Agenda upon us all.

Unfortunately Peaceful Protest falls on Deaf Ears by the Political Elite and the Banksters, they could'nt give a Damn! and it was only a matter of time before the down trodden who have nothing else to lose use violence as their only way of fighting back.

I don't condone Violence, but I do sympathise with those who have lost everything. It's obviously getting closer to crunch time!

Greece Upate: As the march reached parliament, about 200 protesters attacked former conservative minister Kostis Hatzidakis with their fists, stones and sticks, shouting: “Thieves! Shame on you!” His face was covered in blood as he took shelter in a building...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oippW3TNZ5w&feature=player_embedded

[Teakai]

Hi Jackovesk - I heard that the US government had a closed door meeting some time back about safe places for them to go for when (if - hey, I'm an optimist) things get down and dirty - which will be when it becomes clear to the people that the US dollar is as dead as the proverbial doornail - which, of course effects the global economy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0bC5y9YCAw
he mentions it at the 5:27 mark.

If those in the public eye of government have any brains at all they must be sh*tting themselves right about now.

[sjkted]

Unfortunately, this means we can expect a good deal of copy cats.

People view this on TV: their subconscious views the man as an archetype because he's on the boob tube and file it away in a dark part of the mind. One day, they really get in a tight situation and out comes the "solution". Come to work armed!

--sjkted

[Humble Janitor]

I have no sympathy for this coward.

He had other ways to deal with this issue other than trying to kill some innocent people.

[jackovesk]

I have no sympathy for this coward.

He had other ways to deal with this issue other than trying to kill some innocent people.

Did you even Watch the Video Clip or read the article Humble Janitor???

He did'nt kill ANYONE except himself!

You just don't GET IT DO YOU! What's your Breaking Point Janitor??? When they come for you and your Family???

We can all post here and post comments on others Misfortune!

But where do YOU draw the Line Janitor?

It's time you started looking into Reality and stop judging others on how they deal with years of injustice!

Sure, this bloke might have been a Loose Cannon, he spent time in jail, he was a stalker, he was this, he was that! But the real thing as far as I can see, his ultimate excuse for taking his own life was Povety & Injustice and lack of faith in Govt. and his and his families future!

He had a 'DEATH WISH' and the opportunity to Massacre many Innocent people, but he Chose Not to!

The Poor Bas#ard just wanted to be heard by someone! His ultimate Goal was to Express his Disdain for the PTB and end his own Life! and that is Exactly what happened!

[Humble Janitor]

I got it mixed up with another incident, ok?

Though I will admit this guy is STILL a coward for taking his own life and making a scene like this.

[jimmer]

obamanomics + instability + time = an unraveling

[ExHaLaTiON]

obamanomics + instability + time = an unraveling

we shall see who will stand and who will lay down.

some people can only take so much, how much can you take?

[3optic]

we shall see who will stand and who will lay down.

Interested to know how you might describe the standing part.

[ExHaLaTiON]

Interested to know how you might describe the standing part.

I dont think the lions like to be locked up and abused in a cage all its life. Seeing we have been in this mess for such a long time and nothing in the nice/peaceful category has worked.

This is not a good thing but I dont see any other way around it. The clock is ticking........

No more optimistic

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Hi Jackovesk - I heard that the US government had a closed door meeting some time back about safe places for them to go for when (if - hey, I'm an optimist) things get down and dirty - which will be when it becomes clear to the people that the US dollar is as dead as the proverbial doornail - which, of course effects the global economy.
he mentions it at the 5:27 mark.

If those in the public eye of government have any brains at all they must be sh*tting themselves right about now.


These people make me laugh, If they think they can retreat to their "safe locations" when the Lion is let of its leash they are in for a nasty surprise. There will be NO safe place for anybody ESPECIALLY not those who have caused this chaos and will have a giant target on their backs. Millions and millions of VERY angry HEAVILY ARMED Americans, Wow i wouldn't like to be in any Americans shoes at that time especially not theirs.

In Britain the populace is largely unarmed which in my opinion just means its going to be "up close and personal"


p.s I really really hope it doesn't come to that as everybody will pay a terrible price. :)

[Luke]

In Britain the populace is largely unarmed which in my opinion just means its going to be "up close and personal"
p.s I really really hope it doesn't come to that as everybody will pay a terrible price. :)

So is most of European people. And population as a whole is conditioned to specific reactions triggered by specific events in specific manner. This allows for large scale social engineering.

I am not old enough to remember that, but we had similar "men-marching against tanks" events, as might transpire (I mention that here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9440-Polish-December-70-40th-anniversary-of-deadly-clash.)

Hope situation will not reprise itself ... but data point it is already going on

[Humble Janitor]

obamanomics + instability + time = an unraveling

This hardly has anything to do with Obama and more to do with people who don't know how to deal with a bad situation.

Let's stop blaming the people in power and put the blame back where it belongs (with the people!).

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we shall see who will stand and who will lay down.

some people can only take so much, how much can you take?

Fools will resort to violence and get what they rightfully deserve.

I thought Avalon was a better place than this, advocating for violence.

[Teakai]

Let's stop blaming the people in power and put the blame back where it belongs (with the people!).



But, Humble Janitor - aren't those who are in power massively responsible for this?

They used trickery, deceit, brainwashing, chemical abuse and mind control tactics on people they had no right to use it on, without their knowledge, or by abusing their trust.

Now we are aware of how we are being used and abused and confused we can do something about it - for some people the reconcilliation is easier, for others their world crumbles and they are walking around in the ruins of what they thought was their reality.

How do you think this is going to be overcome if not through people standing up for their rights and freedoms and their sovereignity?

Or do you think that we should simply go placidly and unquestioningly with the plans that the 'ptw' have for humanity?

I'm interested as to where you see this going and how, when it comes down to it, how you think people should handle things.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

I see some very tough times ahead. Gerald Celente has been ranting and raving about this happening for a long time, and now he seems to be right on the button. In a way Humble Janitor is right about fools resorting to violence, because that is not the answer. As for the UK I dont think that most of these people creating violence are even students.

What I see happening is just as it reaches boiling point the extreme weather will set in and kill it off (apparently the cold weather could be here until February). You can't riot in blizzards. The goverments of UK and Europe wil take a sigh of relief and hope everyone will get back to their lives, stay at home and watch tv. Because if the rioting would continue particularly in the UK the resources would be stretched to the limit. There is no money even for the police.

This will be a time when people will have to make decisions, what to do next. Because it is just as David Icke says 'Riots and violence solve nothing, they only have power through our aquiescence'. It's been said that governments should fear their people not people fear their governmets. So if people are smart they'll realise it is non-compliance that the governments fear. But who amongst us would have the real courage to do that. It takes more courage than to stand against a line of riot trained police.

True non-compliance would mean turning your back on your government and your own system that supports you. Communities would have to be formed with your their own source of trading with each other. Your own monetary system would have to be created as well as your own local government.
You would suffer being accused of breaking laws, not paying taxes, maybe even treason. Ringleaders wuold most certainly be rounded up. It could only work if whole nations took part.
This may sound too extreme and bizzarre for people in the UK (at the moment) but in Europe?........

This would be a revolution. Something that Ghandi would be proud of.

[3optic]

I dont think the lions like to be locked up and abused in a cage all its life. Seeing we have been in this mess for such a long time and nothing in the nice/peaceful category has worked.

This is not a good thing but I dont see any other way around it. The clock is ticking........

No more optimistic

Still sounding vague to me. Who are you looking to confront? What are you suggesting? It just sounds like an empty idea. Let's get 'em! OK.. uh get who? I honestly don't want to know what you may have in mind. What nice/peaceful actions have you tried that have failed? What non-nice/non-peacefull things have been used with any effect?

All these provocative actions being taken by the authorities are designed by a non-local brain trust to provoke a dull witted, angry, confused, fearful, and possibly violent reaction from you. Are you going to give them what they want?

[ExHaLaTiON]

Holocaust and the slaughter of approximately 6 million Jews from 1939 to 1945.
Concentration camps were established in which inmates were used as slave labour until they died of exhaustion or disease
Jews were crammed into ghettos before being transported hundreds of miles by freight train to extermination camps where, if they survived the journey, the majority of them were killed in gas chambers.

The term holocaust comes from the Greek word holókauston, an animal sacrifice offered to a god in which the whole animal is completely burnt.
You don’t think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could happen to them either.

Fast forward
September 11th or 9/11
Nearly 3,000 victims died in the attacks. The United States responded to the attacks by launching the War on Terror, invading Afghanistan. Air attacks were the largest single cause of civilian deaths caused by pro-government forces, accounting for 31 percent. Children have also increasingly become casualties of the war.

The Iraq War started March 20, 2003 with the invasion of Iraq by a multinational force led by troops from the United States. Special forces capture Iraqi sites suspected of housing weapons of mass destruction (WMD), the United States and its allies are still searching for Iraqi nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons—so far without any visible results.

Public Law 87-297 calls for complete disarmament so the UN can "maintain internal peace". The UN Children's Rights takes responsibility away from parents and gives it to the state.There are over 100 primary and secondary concentration camps across the US. Each houses about 20,000 prisoners.

Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are.

Why are we all in denial ?

[Humble Janitor]

But, Humble Janitor - aren't those who are in power massively responsible for this?

They used trickery, deceit, brainwashing, chemical abuse and mind control tactics on people they had no right to use it on, without their knowledge, or by abusing their trust.

Now we are aware of how we are being used and abused and confused we can do something about it - for some people the reconcilliation is easier, for others their world crumbles and they are walking around in the ruins of what they thought was their reality.

How do you think this is going to be overcome if not through people standing up for their rights and freedoms and their sovereignity?

Or do you think that we should simply go placidly and unquestioningly with the plans that the 'ptw' have for humanity?

I'm interested as to where you see this going and how, when it comes down to it, how you think people should handle things.

I am asking that people stop using "TPTB"/"TPTW" as a crutch to blame all of their troubles and wisen up for once.

We give these mythical people too much power and what does it do? It makes us miserable. If we recognize that they exist but we learn to work around them, we can defeat them.

[Teakai]

I am asking that people stop using "TPTB"/"TPTW" as a crutch to blame all of their troubles and wisen up for once.

We give these mythical people too much power and what does it do? It makes us miserable. If we recognize that they exist but we learn to work around them, we can defeat them.

Thanks for your answer, Humble Janitor - and I'd say that's a true statement if people are simply blaming and not doing anything else.

I wonder if it's not the done thing to cut the cancer from society before it does irreparable damage. That may be deemed as violence, but it seems to me that while we can simply not play their game - there are still our brothers and sisters dying daily because these 'ptw' are going about their plans of total world domination (such a cliche).

They are going to go ahead and kill most of us.
Damage the earth.
And play God with the planet and everything on it.

Thinking out loud I wonder if it would be the kinder thing all round to just take the 'ptw' to a different frequency - one where they can do less harm.
Would that be such a terrible thing?

[Luke]

I am asking that people stop using "TPTB"/"TPTW" as a crutch to blame all of their troubles and wisen up for once.

We give these mythical people too much power and what does it do? It makes us miserable. If we recognize that they exist but we learn to work around them, we can defeat them.
You are right there.
There is huge "Wizard of OZ' factor here. The people people focus on (PTB) have their "power" only because it is granted to them by very people they exercise the power upon. Talk about vicious feedback loop.

The very core of their power is deception. Deception that makes 999 of 1000 people sure they need this "powers' to control their life in the same time they unconsciously rebel against that control.

Peple simply have been conned into thinking that there is no alternative to system

Most "rebel acts" are either pointless acts of violence, as the one in OP .. or frantic attempts to shuffle chairs on Tytanic (the "white hats mythos")

There is choice, but it involves dumping the control system altogether. Stop using it, build one of your own. But people are to lazy in their dependence on the very system it enslaves them to even try it.

And to Archons win ... because most of us doesn't even perceive where the battlefield is. Every time we comply to rules of the system, they are given power, and this is only thing that matters.

What people do not get, that Archons have no power of their own - all they can use they must rob somewhere.
We focus on flashy toys and tech they have- but ultimately.. it is all bought and payed for BY US

I say, starve the b**tards!

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Tea Party didn't work so around the world now the V Party is beginning...

PTB need slaves won't they love seeing 50 Million of these Masks marching towards them?

[Luke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34fUV1DPF2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uR4pkAZSik

Hope you get the idea.

We are counter revolution.
We are to be shot at.
World saw it. World was silent.
it was 94 years ago
it was 40 years ago
it was yesterday
it was all in between
Doesn't matter, untill YOU get the clue

[3optic]

Holocaust and the slaughter of approximately 6 million Jews from 1939 to 1945.
Concentration camps were established in which inmates were used as slave labour until they died of exhaustion or disease
Jews were crammed into ghettos before being transported hundreds of miles by freight train to extermination camps where, if they survived the journey, the majority of them were killed in gas chambers.

The term holocaust comes from the Greek word holókauston, an animal sacrifice offered to a god in which the whole animal is completely burnt.
You don’t think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could happen to them either.

Fast forward
September 11th or 9/11
Nearly 3,000 victims died in the attacks. The United States responded to the attacks by launching the War on Terror, invading Afghanistan. Air attacks were the largest single cause of civilian deaths caused by pro-government forces, accounting for 31 percent. Children have also increasingly become casualties of the war.

The Iraq War started March 20, 2003 with the invasion of Iraq by a multinational force led by troops from the United States. Special forces capture Iraqi sites suspected of housing weapons of mass destruction (WMD), the United States and its allies are still searching for Iraqi nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons—so far without any visible results.

Public Law 87-297 calls for complete disarmament so the UN can "maintain internal peace". The UN Children's Rights takes responsibility away from parents and gives it to the state.There are over 100 primary and secondary concentration camps across the US. Each houses about 20,000 prisoners.

Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are.

Why are we all in denial ?

I am well aware of the information you have painstakingly laid out for us. What are you prepared to do about it? If you are advocating violence, save your breath. Your "You don’t think it could happen to you? " question I find unhelpful. I think a lot of things could happen to me. Some even worse (cancer runs in my family. Give me death by incineration over that). If your looking to stir people up I recommend you find alternative methods to broadcasting fear and calamity. There are plenty of ways to resist cruelty and tyranny. One may be to develop more compassion and reason. Don't take the fear road, Exhalation.

[Bauzer]

Perhaps the security guard aimed for the legs because he didn't want the other school board members to be hit by his bullets. Collateral damage and all that jazz. Just a thought.