Q & A For beginners and advanced

[picloud]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

[thunder24]

is that the left the right the up the down the inside or the outside East north south or west?

[Bill Ryan]

Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct.

We do appreciate your apparent intentions. But the first short and direct question might be this:


Who are you to set yourself up as someone, 27 years old, to answer others' questions about 'beginners and advanced' spirituality?

Although you've posted elsewhere on the forum, in this particular thread you've not said a thing about yourself to introduce your credentials. There are over a thousand other members we could also listen to about this.

So, the way you began the thread doesn't immediately strike one as very wise. Some members may see this as presumptuous and arrogant... and it may be not the very best opening for a spiritual question-and-answer thread.

Can you start again? :)

[picloud]

is that the left the right the up the down the inside or the outside East north south or west?

Basically you would (taking the idea of direction) move in all directions basically as you see fit as to your self realised purpose. Whichever suits you most. Your question needs a bit more direction! Hahaha

[Sueanne47]

Will we still be alive by the end of october?

[picloud]

Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct.

We do appreciate your sincere intentions. But the first short and direct question might be this:


Who are you to set yourself up as someone, 27 years old, to answer others' questions about 'beginners and advanced' spirituality?

Although you've posted elsewhere on the forum, in this particular thread you've not said a thing about yourself to introduce your credentials. There are over a thousand other members we could also listen to about this.

So, the way you began the thread doesn't immediately strike one as very wise. Some members may see this as a little presumptuous and arrogant... and although this is certainly not your intention, it's not the very best opening for a spiritual question-and-answer thread.

Can you start again? :)

Of course, I mean no disrespect. I merely want to help and I believe that age, being a limit we set on our selves, is a prison of the mind in itself where we believe we can be "lacking" something without relative experiences that we, I, or anyone as a young member has acquired by vicarious means as well as personal experiences. I can rephrase the question myself: "Who would like to hear from my self from my personal path to enlightenment - the wisdom of the youth?"

I appreciate your question and directness.

[thunder24]

is that the left the right the up the down the inside or the outside East north south or west?

Basically you would (taking the idea of direction) move in all directions basically as you see fit as to your self realised purpose. Whichever suits you most. Your question needs a bit more direction! Hahaha

after reading bills post, now i see you meant a spiritual path? Ill take the one less trodden

[picloud]

Will we still be alive by the end of october?

If you believe it so.

[Baby Steps]

dear pic cloud,
what are you bringing to this plane?
thanks

[Chester]

Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct.

We do appreciate your sincere intentions. But the first short and direct question might be this:


Who are you to set yourself up as someone, 27 years old, to answer others' questions about 'beginners and advanced' spirituality?

Although you've posted elsewhere on the forum, in this particular thread you've not said a thing about yourself to introduce your credentials. There are over a thousand other members we could also listen to about this.

So, the way you began the thread doesn't immediately strike one as very wise. Some members may see this as a little presumptuous and arrogant... and although this is certainly not your intention, it's not the very best opening for a spiritual question-and-answer thread.

Can you start again? :)

Of course, I mean no disrespect. I merely want to help and I believe that age, being a limit we set on our selves, is a prison of the mind in itself where we believe we can be "lacking" something without relative experiences that we, I, or anyone as a young member has acquired by vicarious means as well as personal experiences. I can rephrase the question myself: "Who would like to hear from my self from my personal path to enlightenment - the wisdom of the youth?"

I appreciate your question and directness.


You sound like ME!

I am stark raving enlightened... just ask anyone who knows me.

[Matthew]

Then it might be ok ..if we could all play! I'll have a turn

Anyone ask me anything

[Fellow Aspirant]

Picloud

Upon reflection, I have come to the sad conclusion that I was rash in what I posted about your offer to help anyone who wished to question you. I was too quick to be skeptical, and too quick to rib you; you may be just the addition that this forum needs at this point in time. I hope that your future participation here is beneficial to us all.

Please accept my apology.

Brian

[provolon]

Question, where can I see a picture of a ufo from inside?

[Matthew]

Great question. I have no idea! I'll join the queue now for my next go

[Clear Light]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Hi picloud :waving:

Can I ask what you mean by the word "blurred" (as highlighted above) please ?

You also speak of it here "Re: Who God is and what we are (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1056724&viewfull=1#post1056724)" when you said :


... move to not unwittingly blurr our path which is followed simply by allowing love into your life and letting love inform what you do ...

Thanks in Advance !

[joeecho]

Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct.

We do appreciate your sincere intentions. But the first short and direct question might be this:


Who are you to set yourself up as someone, 27 years old, to answer others' questions about 'beginners and advanced' spirituality?

Although you've posted elsewhere on the forum, in this particular thread you've not said a thing about yourself to introduce your credentials. There are over a thousand other members we could also listen to about this.

So, the way you began the thread doesn't immediately strike one as very wise. Some members may see this as a little presumptuous and arrogant... and although this is certainly not your intention, it's not the very best opening for a spiritual question-and-answer thread.

Can you start again? :)

Of course, I mean no disrespect. I merely want to help and I believe that age, being a limit we set on our selves, is a prison of the mind in itself where we believe we can be "lacking" something without relative experiences that we, I, or anyone as a young member has acquired by vicarious means as well as personal experiences. I can rephrase the question myself: "Who would like to hear from my self from my personal path to enlightenment - the wisdom of the youth?"

I appreciate your question and directness.


You sound like ME!

I am stark raving enlightened... just ask anyone who knows me.

I'll buy the 'stark' part now go put some clothes on, your web cam is on! :shocked:

My bad, you do have some clothes on and the brand name is Sam Hunter. Pretty fancy stuff.


Oh boy ... here we go ...! :popcorn:

B.

There is no business but show business. :yo:

[Jayren]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Will there be a one to lead the masses? A neo in the matrix?

[ghostrider]

True enlightenment in my humble opinion can only happen through the individual walking their own path, experience life at their own pace, dealing with the positive and negative as they x-factor their way into your journey of living out a material life in a physical body guided by your inner spirit... Some things/knowledge only come by age , being over 50 I think differently than when I was 10 ... I only learned I have alot to learn, and I don't really know anything ...

[6pounder]

id say that with age comes knowladge but wisdom is not promissed. as a 25 y/o im always being critisized for what i say with the "youre still young" line. i am young and i obiviosly dont clain to know everything, as ghostrider said we dont really know anything. but am i wise? some who are older tend to claim they "know" more then me. know what exactly? how to act in certain situations in life that fits them? i think thats all. some think that life experiance says alot about someone. but if you have lived your life in a cage where you ignore the reality what exactly is that you have experianced?

this been said to all those who ever doubted my wisdom.

[picloud]

dear pic cloud,
what are you bringing to this plane?
thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path.

If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

[picloud]

Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct.

We do appreciate your sincere intentions. But the first short and direct question might be this:


Who are you to set yourself up as someone, 27 years old, to answer others' questions about 'beginners and advanced' spirituality?

Although you've posted elsewhere on the forum, in this particular thread you've not said a thing about yourself to introduce your credentials. There are over a thousand other members we could also listen to about this.

So, the way you began the thread doesn't immediately strike one as very wise. Some members may see this as a little presumptuous and arrogant... and although this is certainly not your intention, it's not the very best opening for a spiritual question-and-answer thread.

Can you start again? :)

Of course, I mean no disrespect. I merely want to help and I believe that age, being a limit we set on our selves, is a prison of the mind in itself where we believe we can be "lacking" something without relative experiences that we, I, or anyone as a young member has acquired by vicarious means as well as personal experiences. I can rephrase the question myself: "Who would like to hear from my self from my personal path to enlightenment - the wisdom of the youth?"

I appreciate your question and directness.


You sound like ME!

I am stark raving enlightened... just ask anyone who knows me.

Sam Hunter,

You immediately bring a smile to my face. Thank you!

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Then it might be ok ..if we could all play! I'll have a turn

Anyone ask me anything

YoYoYo

When was it that you found yourself waking up from this if you have or haven't already?

Regards,

picloud.

[Baby Steps]

dear pic cloud,
what are you bringing to this plane?
thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path.

If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

love that! thanks.

P.S. how?

[picloud]

Oh, come on, Bill. Cut the kid some slack.

As in, enough rope to hang himself.

Everybody has something of interest to contribute.

He might surprise us all!

Brian

34438

Fellow Aspirant,

Thank you for giving me a chance to say more. If you have as much faith in me as it seems from only a couple posts, it gives me the energy to persevere through the (pardon me) smart-ass comment(s) - which are surprisingly few! - and take time out of my day to respond to everyone. Thank you.

If there's anything I can offer, please ask! I'm here for a good Q&A :)

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Question, where can I see a picture of a ufo from inside?

I would bother Bright Garlick for that question. Google him.

[picloud]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Hi picloud :waving:

Can I ask what you mean by the word "blurred" (as highlighted above) please ?

You also speak of it here "Re: Who God is and what we are (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1056724&viewfull=1#post1056724)" when you said :


... move to not unwittingly blurr our path which is followed simply by allowing love into your life and letting love inform what you do ...

Thanks in Advance !

Clear Light,

Thank you for taking the time to review my past posts, I am very humbled. When I mention the word blurred, today's meaning of the word still resonates somewhat with the past's ideas of such a word in the journey through this maze which I believe is a construct of our own imagination. Once you see that you are not the rat or mouse in the maze of life - that you are in fact the whole maze, mouse and scientist, you begin to see through the maze as you would with a pen and paper guiding the poor mouse to the cheese.

Now without metaphor, blurred is our entire existence until we reach God. It must be a way to slowly clear the blur along the path that focuses itself as you draw nearer to God. Personally, God to me is different to God to you. I don't use that word lightly, but this scenario I will and have.

Can I clarify more? I'd be more than happy to :)

Thank you!

[picloud]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Will there be a one to lead the masses? A neo in the matrix?

I believe so, but it begins with you. In order to be lead you must know how to lead and that in my opinion takes self mastery. Master yourself. Know your "self" and be the one to lead. This isn't a competition and we aren't at all meant to be sheep to be lead, we must be the herder of our own flock and the flock is our life and all in it. Help those beneath, and reach out to those above and we then will see that it is more of a circle than a ladder.

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id say that with age comes knowladge but wisdom is not promissed. as a 25 y/o im always being critisized for what i say with the "youre still young" line. i am young and i obiviosly dont clain to know everything, as ghostrider said we dont really know anything. but am i wise? some who are older tend to claim they "know" more then me. know what exactly? how to act in certain situations in life that fits them? i think thats all. some think that life experiance says alot about someone. but if you have lived your life in a cage where you ignore the reality what exactly is that you have experianced?

this been said to all those who ever doubted my wisdom.

You are wise beyond your or other's beliefs and stay in tune with your self, reflect on all that has happened and mirror the wisdom of others as you have your entire life I'm sure. You ARE always on the right path whether it feels like it or not. Once you have awoken properly, you will then have more of a choice to choose or not to choose... if you know what I mean. I will clarify if you need but I am confident in you.

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dear pic cloud,
what are you bringing to this plane?
thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path.

If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

love that! thanks.

P.S. how?


Id say it would be through using whatever skills I have mustered in this life and combining it all to produce something real for all those around me where I see it and where I see fit.

Thank you again, much love.

[picloud]

Picloud

Upon reflection, I have come to the sad conclusion that I was rash in what I posted about your offer to help anyone who wished to question you. I was too quick to be skeptical, and too quick to rib you; you may be just the addition that this forum needs at this point in time. I hope that your future participation here is beneficial to us all.

Please accept my apology.

Brian

No need to apologise, I believe that we are all here to help each other and if that means filtering through some who can be as Bill had mentioned, arrogant and un-wise - we should all see for that which brings us closer to truth. I left this question here in the open forum for all to read, not just members so that we all get a chance to see what could possibly be a real conversation. Maybe this would bring more people to The Avalon community and bind us together rather than pull us apart.

Thank you so much!

[joeecho]

Here is some advice for those would be 'masters'.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/icarus-141215135421-conversion-gate01/95/icarus-4-638.jpg?cb=1418651691



Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher, but I flew too high

Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming,
I can hear them say

Carry on my wayward son,
There'll be peace when you are done

-- partial lyrics from Kansas "Carry On Wayward Son"

[6pounder]

@picloud can you please elaborate a bit about the "choose or not to choose"?

[Craig]

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher, but I flew too high

Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming,
I can hear them say

Carry on my wayward son,
There'll be peace when you are done

-- partial lyrics from Kansas "Carry On Wayward Son"

Call the Winchesters!

[joeecho]

When you get to the end of the path and look back, there was none.

[Ultima Thule]

How about instead of a Q&A you just write what is your point of view about reality and our existence, perhaps relate it to familiar concepts?
I personally find this concept of you (or anybody else) hinting at hidden authority/knowledge and being open for questions, creates a pretense of testing the "audience". I suggest you just come out with what exactly you have to say and bring into consideration what you feel are your most worthwhile suggestions and be done with it.

You may not be aware of it, but this Q&A concept is not really very new phenomena and oftentimes - imho - it really hasn´t provided very good results nor spirits. In this light, I suggest that you cut to the chase and iterate your best content for review.

UT

[Andre]

dear pic cloud, what are you bringing to this plane? thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path. If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

I find it difficult to understand why you would put yourself forward as a source of wisdom when you say ".. I'm not sure ... I'm in training mode ... I've been reaching out to understand myself ... to find my path ... "

[Ewan]

I find it difficult to understand why you would put yourself forward as a source of wisdom when you say ".. I'm not sure ... I'm in training mode ... I've been reaching out to understand myself ... to find my path ... "

Crash course in learning from one's mistakes, maybe?

[picloud]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1056724&viewfull=1#post1056724

So the above URL should take you to a page that will show you the calibre of my "knowing" if you could call it that. There are many of those who probably only looked so far as the headline and perhaps my "arrogant" QA style and missed the forest beyond the tree. To those I present my ideas of all that I believe on a singular and relatable topic such as our most high order in this life - that of a coexistence with our self and relationship to/with God as a spiritual journey - and I'll sit back and give those who are willing to take perhaps 5 minutes to read the OP of the above link (which may spur you on to read the further commentary), to reflect and reply if deemed necessary.

To those questions yet unanswered I will respond in the morning as in Australia it's getting late and I've had a big and wonderful day. Much love and please, please, keep the insults coming to those who know who I'm talking to... I don't mind. If you've chosen me as the glass house to throw your stones at, a late friend to us all once said something about what you do unto others is what you do unto yourself. Careful where you throw rocks, insults... but if you do - make sure you're informed as you will suffer the consequence of looking foolish when it bounces off the glass and strikes back at you. Good luck.

picloud

[Clear Light]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Hi picloud :waving:

Can I ask what you mean by the word "blurred" (as highlighted above) please ?

You also speak of it here "Re: Who God is and what we are (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1056724&viewfull=1#post1056724)" when you said :


... move to not unwittingly blurr our path which is followed simply by allowing love into your life and letting love inform what you do ...

Thanks in Advance !

Clear Light,

Thank you for taking the time to review my past posts, I am very humbled. When I mention the word blurred, today's meaning of the word still resonates somewhat with the past's ideas of such a word in the journey through this maze which I believe is a construct of our own imagination. Once you see that you are not the rat or mouse in the maze of life - that you are in fact the whole maze, mouse and scientist, you begin to see through the maze as you would with a pen and paper guiding the poor mouse to the cheese.

Now without metaphor, blurred is our entire existence until we reach God. It must be a way to slowly clear the blur along the path that focuses itself as you draw nearer to God. Personally, God to me is different to God to you. I don't use that word lightly, but this scenario I will and have.

Can I clarify more? I'd be more than happy to :)

Thank you!

Oh, now that I can relate to in the sense of, let's say, the dissolution of "confusion" eh ?

Like of the Mirage of the apparent but unreal "sense of self", which in a moment of "insight" (or Clarity) means seeing the "emptiness of self" directly eh ?

Because, IMHO, I'd suggest that the idea / concept of a "Path" is only applicable to the idea / concept of some "self" which can "progress" along it ... but what if this is the "unquestioned" ASSUMED starting point of likely ALL such Spiritual Journeying eh ?

As according to some "sudden enlightenment" modalities (as opposed to "gradual paths") "you" are already that which "you" seek eh ?

. : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : .

"How does one seek union with God" ?

"The harder you seek, the more distance you create between Him and you"

"So what does one do about the distance" ?

"Understand that it isn't there"

"Does that mean that God and I are one" ?

"Not one. Not two"

"How is that possible" ?

"The sun and its light, the ocean and the wave, the singer and his song -- not one. Not two"

Anthony de Mello

[Mandala]

True enlightenment in my humble opinion can only happen through the individual walking their own path, experience life at their own pace, dealing with the positive and negative as they x-factor their way into your journey of living out a material life in a physical body guided by your inner spirit... Some things/knowledge only come by age , being over 50 I think differently than when I was 10 ... I only learned I have alot to learn, and I don't really know anything ...


Wow, isn't that the truth. The more I learn, the more I realize I have to learn.
I'm to the point I really can't explain it because it is so encompassing.
It's a "Knowing" you arrive at, accompanied by "Peace within".

The knowing comes as not only learning, but remembering.

[Mandala]

Question, where can I see a picture of a ufo from inside?

This brings up a most interesting inquiry. Has anyone else heard the stories that inside some UFOs the only explanation is inside it is 'other dimensional'. The outside may appear to be a smaller scout ship, but on the inside it is enormous. When the human asked for an explanation, the ET said it was extra-dimensional and our mind can not even begin to understand this concept.






Reply from Bill: (adding a note here so as not to disturb the thread)

Yes, I've heard those stories quite a few times, all from independent witnesses (including whistleblowers in classified programs) -- and I do believe they're reliable.

While it's a bit of a mind-bender for us stuck-on-Earth humans, one can kind of grasp the concept that if the ETs have mastered spacetime manipulation, advanced technological tricks like that might be elementary for them.

[joeecho]

Shady Shady Shady

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yK7jADJTNE4/maxresdefault.jpg

[picloud]

Hi, just extending a hand out to those who may be seeking the path or have their path blurred somewhat. Here to help with any queries, please keep the questions short and direct. I'll endeavor to answer them as quickly as possible and give you my best response.

Regards,

picloud.

Hi picloud :waving:

Can I ask what you mean by the word "blurred" (as highlighted above) please ?

You also speak of it here "Re: Who God is and what we are (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1056724&viewfull=1#post1056724)" when you said :


... move to not unwittingly blurr our path which is followed simply by allowing love into your life and letting love inform what you do ...

Thanks in Advance !

Clear Light,

Thank you for taking the time to review my past posts, I am very humbled. When I mention the word blurred, today's meaning of the word still resonates somewhat with the past's ideas of such a word in the journey through this maze which I believe is a construct of our own imagination. Once you see that you are not the rat or mouse in the maze of life - that you are in fact the whole maze, mouse and scientist, you begin to see through the maze as you would with a pen and paper guiding the poor mouse to the cheese.

Now without metaphor, blurred is our entire existence until we reach God. It must be a way to slowly clear the blur along the path that focuses itself as you draw nearer to God. Personally, God to me is different to God to you. I don't use that word lightly, but this scenario I will and have.

Can I clarify more? I'd be more than happy to :)

Thank you!

Oh, now that I can relate to in the sense of, let's say, the dissolution of "confusion" eh ?

Like of the Mirage of the apparent but unreal "sense of self", which in a moment of "insight" (or Clarity) means seeing the "emptiness of self" directly eh ?

Because, IMHO, I'd suggest that the idea / concept of a "Path" is only applicable to the idea / concept of some "self" which can "progress" along it ... but what if this is the "unquestioned" ASSUMED starting point of likely ALL such Spiritual Journeying eh ?

As according to some "sudden enlightenment" modalities (as opposed to "gradual paths") "you" are already that which "you" seek eh ?

. : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : .

"How does one seek union with God" ?

"The harder you seek, the more distance you create between Him and you"

"So what does one do about the distance" ?

"Understand that it isn't there"

"Does that mean that God and I are one" ?

"Not one. Not two"

"How is that possible" ?

"The sun and its light, the ocean and the wave, the singer and his song -- not one. Not two"

Anthony de Mello

Much like our old friend Jesus would have used parables to explain concepts that are far beyond a sentence (when it comes to explaining these ideas), I'm following the footsteps of The Master himself in this dialogue where I use words like "path" and "blur" but you know this perhaps already and what is meant by them, especially now :) thank you again.

You're absolutely right, the path has no start-end point, you're constantly on one let's say, but the dissolution of self comes from feeling as though it is a race between yourself and others when its really just you and yourself.

The fact is some ARE behind and some ARE ahead in this life, but again this is another illusion that is imposed on self, by self, from self and unto others... that's a tricky one which needs clarification. You may perhaps recall words of wisdom such as the archetypal "father forgive them for they know not what they do" and similarly: "don't judge a book by its cover."

Have I helped or added confusion? Haha, I must add you're very appreciated, thank you!

[picloud]

@picloud can you please elaborate a bit about the "choose or not to choose"?

6pounder,

To choose or not to choose is basically a moment in life when you either lead your life or choose to be lead.

Much love brother.

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dear pic cloud, what are you bringing to this plane? thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path. If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

I find it difficult to understand why you would put yourself forward as a source of wisdom when you say ".. I'm not sure ... I'm in training mode ... I've been reaching out to understand myself ... to find my path ... "

Well, aren't we all? Who claims to be perfect?

[joeecho]

The fact is some ARE behind and some ARE ahead in this life, but again this is another illusion that is imposed on self, by self, from self and unto others... that's a tricky one which needs clarification.



?fact?

What makes you so sure that the 'self' you referenced here isn't an illusion as well?

Because it's here in the now?

Here today, gone tomorrow.

What if self had a horrible accident that disconnected ALL ability to communicate with the outside world (no access to any and all senses), essentially buried in a body kept alive by ventilators, feeding tubes etc. Would the self still be a self? And what would it be a self to, itself? Real (for lack of a better definition) does not depend on relativity but the self does.

[Clear Light]

Well, aren't we all? Who claims to be perfect?

Oh, I'm laughing out loud, that is just the "Spiritual Ego" eh ? :wink:


http://thespiritscience.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/01sp3.png

But do you see how the Concept of "Time" plays into the hands of "Ego" with words like "soon" in the cartoon above eh ?

[Bubu]

@picloud can you please elaborate a bit about the "choose or not to choose"?

6pounder,

To choose or not to choose is basically a moment in life when you either lead your life or choose to be lead.

Much love brother.

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dear pic cloud, what are you bringing to this plane? thanks

Hi Baby Steps,

I'm not absolutely sure yet. At the moment it feels as though I'm in some sort of training mode. Since 2012 I've been waking up to my self. And this year, same year I joined this community, I've been reaching out to understand my self more and in turn, to find my path. If I were to give you my best answer in a word, it would be Justice.

I find it difficult to understand why you would put yourself forward as a source of wisdom when you say ".. I'm not sure ... I'm in training mode ... I've been reaching out to understand myself ... to find my path ... "

Well, aren't we all? Who claims to be perfect?

If we are all in the same sort of training and struggling to understand what makes you think you new better than the rest?
spirituality comes with age it is pretty much like a mountain...http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93963-Excerpt-Quote-from-Advanced-Teachings-by-Mrs.-Endall-Beall/page3
we are born with no learning we are at the bottom we are wise then we go up the mountain and to the peak where we think we are the wisest, we are fools then we realize that life is a continuous process of learning that we can never learn completely we started to unlearn and trying not to learn until we reach the bottom. we give up learning we know nothing we are wise.

spiritually is an individual journey your book your answers may apply only to you.
goodluck to your journey.

[Bill Ryan]

.
picloud has been unsubscribed, for abusing what the forum is for.

He's been laughing at anyone here who's been sincere enough to ask him genuine questions.

For reference, see this thread which he started two months ago:


You are now talking to an alien - taking questions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92765-You-are-now-talking-to-an-alien-taking-questions)

Below is a compilation of all his posts there. His own contributions have been highlighted in red -- to make them easier to make out, as some of them are embedded replies.

Note that some smilies have been deleted: too many for this one post.


yo.

q and a

starting with my own: who believes this first off?

nevermind. i take pills so should u if u do... lol... questions please. also taking insults. much more prefered :)

We are all Aliens here---believe that if you will.

Chris

Haha!~ Indeeeeed my friend :)
Can u pick me up in your space ship and take me someplace nicer and more intelligent?

Im kinda low on funds at the moment Ive got a student loan that i need to pay off, my good sir/madame, tho when im ready and leave my country of origin ill be sure to keep you in mind because ive seen the worst of humanity before a bleeding child as no one but an african stopped him before taking his life and he even dropped to his knees before the poor child to cry with him as he begged to save him from himself.

jump on board my friend.


1) is it true that if I wear a tinfoil hat you can't detect me? :::::::: still can but much harder because the radio signals emitted from brainwave activity are muffled by the aluminium foil but you would have to somehow warp the said foil over your entire body to protect u fully

2) must u stick that probe up my ass *every* time we meet? Im just not into that sort of thing. How many times do I have to explain that? ::::: sorry its a bad habit

3) why do you only contact unemployed, middle aged white men who still live in their mother's basement? Or farmers? :::::: who do u like to take the piss out of more? rich white folk or the undemployed etc etc?

4) Why do your names always sound like synthetic fabrics? :::: piotr is mine, its a polish one for Peter so if u like, just call me Cloud i much prefer final fantasy 7 over the rest :)

5) is there any way you'll let me take a blurry black n white photo of your spacecraft? :::::: sure mate but better bring an SLR for my ride, its currently a Suzuki Swift Type S 2010 model

Don't mean to overwhelm you with questions so early in the thread, but it's rare that we get a real honest to god alien around here. :::::: i agree mate, just keep it real and u can join the party when im outta this ****hole
Mike how do you come up with this stuff?
God I swear you could write for Saturday Night Live. You are hilarious.

On another note, I'm a big fan of TOOL piccloud.
So regardless of where you come from, you have good taste.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GaqJ4SKdRL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqJ4SKdRL0)

thanks mate,

i enjoy taking the piss too... and yeah ill call up that guy but not sure if he takes Aussies much more seriously than we deserve haha


Greetings from Planet Earth Picloud --

out of these who is your favourite whistleblower / researcher
or you can add your own -

1. Steven Greer

2. Boyd Bushman

3. Bob Lazar

4. Col. Philip Corso

5. Bill Ryan

6. Kerry Cassidy

7. Linda Moulton-Howe

8. Paul Hellyer

9 . other

thank you

Louis Theroux :) my niggz

Brilliant, been waiting for this for a looooong time!

Do you have any domesticated animals on Zog? Pets?

YEP! A GOLDEN RETRIEVER NAMED ARCHIE!! hes the cutest!!

Do you have any lady friends, and if so, do they watch hours and hours and hours of mind numbing TV soap operas (like mine does)?

my girlfriend watches AnimeLab with me and shes the beez kneez!

In fact, do you have TV?

I do but i keep free-to-air off because that numbs the mind incredibly

I've heard that Centauri II has the best fashion in the Universe...... Is this true?

Pleiadians hands down

And last, but by no means least............. Just when the f**k are you guys gonna take Kim Kardashian back?

Once im done f***ing her after Kanye is finished i guess

R

hope that satire is your kind of medicine ;)


What's your biggest weakness....? ;-)

Love and i suppose Pride


Re: You are now talking to an alien - taking questions

Could you arrange to have a meeting some night deep in the woods with myself and some friends? We would like to discuss what happened on your mothership during the last abduction.

live anywhere near melbourne australia?


Do you pee standing up?

only if im not hungover or something


Do you have handbags made from lizard?

34017

I wouldnt dare those things are too beautiful and ancient and must be respected. cow and calf leather tho... **** well im a hypocrite i guess. didnt choose to skin them but if its there i guess the poor animals must have a sense that they didnt die for no reason and toss them out like most humans think is acceptable. go vegan. again. hypocrite. fk it :)


No questions, just a warning: Your 'time' will come.

i hope so, i really do. but i want to take the children of the world with me. and that has nothing to do with how many years you've been on this planet as im sure you'd know :)

Thanks to everyone for giving me a smile today you all saved my faith in humanity!!!!!!!!!! :) :)

[thunder24]

For reference, see this thread which he started two months ago:


You are now talking to an alien - taking questions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92765-You-are-now-talking-to-an-alien-taking-questions)

Below is a compilation of all his posts there. His own contributions have been highlighted in red -- to make them easier to make out, as some of them are embedded replies.

Note that some smilies have been deleted: too many for this one post.


yo.

q and a

starting with my own: who believes this first off?

nevermind. i take pills so should u if u do... lol... questions please. also taking insults. much more prefered :)

We are all Aliens here---believe that if you will.

Chris

Haha!~ Indeeeeed my friend :)
Can u pick me up in your space ship and take me someplace nicer and more intelligent?

Im kinda low on funds at the moment Ive got a student loan that i need to pay off, my good sir/madame, tho when im ready and leave my country of origin ill be sure to keep you in mind because ive seen the worst of humanity before a bleeding child as no one but an african stopped him before taking his life and he even dropped to his knees before the poor child to cry with him as he begged to save him from himself.

jump on board my friend.


1) is it true that if I wear a tinfoil hat you can't detect me? :::::::: still can but much harder because the radio signals emitted from brainwave activity are muffled by the aluminium foil but you would have to somehow warp the said foil over your entire body to protect u fully

2) must u stick that probe up my ass *every* time we meet? Im just not into that sort of thing. How many times do I have to explain that? ::::: sorry its a bad habit

3) why do you only contact unemployed, middle aged white men who still live in their mother's basement? Or farmers? :::::: who do u like to take the piss out of more? rich white folk or the undemployed etc etc?

4) Why do your names always sound like synthetic fabrics? :::: piotr is mine, its a polish one for Peter so if u like, just call me Cloud i much prefer final fantasy 7 over the rest :)

5) is there any way you'll let me take a blurry black n white photo of your spacecraft? :::::: sure mate but better bring an SLR for my ride, its currently a Suzuki Swift Type S 2010 model

Don't mean to overwhelm you with questions so early in the thread, but it's rare that we get a real honest to god alien around here. :::::: i agree mate, just keep it real and u can join the party when im outta this ****hole
Mike how do you come up with this stuff?
God I swear you could write for Saturday Night Live. You are hilarious.

On another note, I'm a big fan of TOOL piccloud.
So regardless of where you come from, you have good taste.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GaqJ4SKdRL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqJ4SKdRL0)

thanks mate,

i enjoy taking the piss too... and yeah ill call up that guy but not sure if he takes Aussies much more seriously than we deserve haha


Greetings from Planet Earth Picloud --

out of these who is your favourite whistleblower / researcher
or you can add your own -

1. Steven Greer

2. Boyd Bushman

3. Bob Lazar

4. Col. Philip Corso

5. Bill Ryan

6. Kerry Cassidy

7. Linda Moulton-Howe

8. Paul Hellyer

9 . other

thank you

Louis Theroux :) my niggz

Brilliant, been waiting for this for a looooong time!

Do you have any domesticated animals on Zog? Pets?

YEP! A GOLDEN RETRIEVER NAMED ARCHIE!! hes the cutest!!

Do you have any lady friends, and if so, do they watch hours and hours and hours of mind numbing TV soap operas (like mine does)?

my girlfriend watches AnimeLab with me and shes the beez kneez!

In fact, do you have TV?

I do but i keep free-to-air off because that numbs the mind incredibly

I've heard that Centauri II has the best fashion in the Universe...... Is this true?

Pleiadians hands down

And last, but by no means least............. Just when the f**k are you guys gonna take Kim Kardashian back?

Once im done f***ing her after Kanye is finished i guess

R

hope that satire is your kind of medicine ;)


What's your biggest weakness....? ;-)

Love and i suppose Pride


Re: You are now talking to an alien - taking questions

Could you arrange to have a meeting some night deep in the woods with myself and some friends? We would like to discuss what happened on your mothership during the last abduction.

live anywhere near melbourne australia?


Do you pee standing up?

only if im not hungover or something


Do you have handbags made from lizard?

34017

I wouldnt dare those things are too beautiful and ancient and must be respected. cow and calf leather tho... **** well im a hypocrite i guess. didnt choose to skin them but if its there i guess the poor animals must have a sense that they didnt die for no reason and toss them out like most humans think is acceptable. go vegan. again. hypocrite. fk it :)


No questions, just a warning: Your 'time' will come.

i hope so, i really do. but i want to take the children of the world with me. and that has nothing to do with how many years you've been on this planet as im sure you'd know :)

Thanks to everyone for giving me a smile today you all saved my faith in humanity!!!!!!!!!! :) :)

that is called alcohol

[Matina]

I don't believe spirituality comes with age,it's not arthritis or knowledge.For me a spiritual person is not just the one who gives the right answers but the one who makes the interest questions.Spirituality is always there but yes, knowledge and experiences are very important too,they are like a kind of compass for this inner journey.

[Matthew]

In my humble opinion only a troll. Credit due though, a good one! There are plenty here to give the benefit of the doubt but not me in this case.

[DeDukshyn]

Almost every time I see someone new posting threads with the theme of "I'm an expert, ask me questions" -- I have an intrinsic urge to roll my eyes and walk away ... nothing good ever comes from them ...

[joeecho]

All have the ability to blow smoke rings, where is the skill in that?

https://rootsnwingz.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/smokincaterpillar.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ce71d58d991329f1bf7d75115d1c3fdd/tumblr_nr2z04QMcS1utn1fuo1_500.gif

[petra]

"you are now talking to an alien" thread??! Oh my

I feel like an alien sometimes.... I asked my self about it, and the response was "You can't help what you are"....

Maybe I'm an alien, maybe I'm not, lol - either way though I can't help it right :)