Mount Shasta's Forgotten History & Legends

[Dustin Naef]

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Greetings,

I've been exploring and writing about Mount Shasta for most of my adult life. I became interested in the sacred mountain as far back as 1987, during the Harmonic Convergence (a kind of New Age Woodstock). I moved to the area over a decade ago, and began investigating and researching the mountain's strange history and legends.

I'm always interested in sharing information and hearing other peoples experiences and thoughts about it.

California's Mount Shasta is a surrounded by mysterious legends and high strangeness. During my research, I discovered that very little information about the mountain's prehistoric history is very well known today, most of the stories you hear about the mountain were written up in modern times, but there's a deep pattern of hidden history to the region which has been largely suppressed and omitted over the past century.

Mount Shasta's prehistoric history and legends is what fascinates me the most, and I've written two books about it: "Mount Shasta's Forgotten History & Legends" (2016) and another forthcoming book "Mount Shasta's Mysteries" (early 2017).

I welcome any questions, or if anyone has any suggestions or information about the region that I could explore or investigate further, I would love to hear about it.

I write about Mount Shasta as a guest-author for Ancient Origins website, and I also have a YouTube Channel "Mount Shasta's Legends" where I'm able to show people the areas around the mountain that I cover in my books and articles, and share some of the stories and tales that are specific to this area.

This month I'm releasing an article and video series about a very popular legend known as the "J.C. Brown Mystery". Brown was a prospector and treasure-hunter in 1904 who claimed to have found giant skeletons and the relics of a lost civilization somewhere near Mount Shasta.

I wrote about this legend (there are many different versions) extensively in my book. My premise is that if there is any truth to Brown's claims, he may have left some kind of trail that's possible to follow--and also there might be something found in the historical record of the region that might support, or substantiate his tale.

The following videos are part one and two of this series (third installment will be out soon), here I'll attempt to follow the trail of J.C. Brown, visit some of the areas where I think it makes sense he might have been, and then let viewer's decide if there's any truth to the legend...

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[DNA]

I'm of the opinion that there is some strange stuff going on at Mt. Shasta. Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is a deep underground base, occupied by folks of a higher civilization than we.
While searching the internet I found the story in it's entirety told apparently from the first person at Above Top Secret. Here is the link to the thread. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread899732/pg1)
Here is her statement in it's entirety. It is crazy good. The poster at ATS is MISSKAT1

GRANDMA TALKS ABOUT HER GRANDSON WHO DISAPPEARED NEAR MT. SHASTA

Last fall my 3 1/2 yr old grandson was lost in the Shasta Forest for 5 hours. Thanks to volunteers and rescue personal he was found. My son said "He was here, then within a second he was gone. They thought he had been abducted by other campers. (trust me the worst nightmare ever) About 3 weeks after this happened, he was at my house, and out of the blue he announced "I dont like the other grandma Kappy" (his name for me grandma Kathy) I said, "what are you talking about buddy? Im the only grandma Kappy", He said "Dont you remember when I was wost in the woods?, Well, the other grandma Kappy grabbed me and took me to a creepy place, shes really a robot." I was thinking he was telling a story, so I asked "what was creepy about it, and why do you think she was a robot?
"It was a cave with spiders, and there was purses and guns. I was too scared, so I didnt touch anything. But, when she climbed a ladder, the light made her look like a robot. There were other robots too, but they didnt move." So I asked "What did she do with you Buddy?" "She made me lay down to look at my tummy, then she tried to get me to poop on a sticky paper, but I couldnt go. She told me that I am from outer space, and they put me in my moms tummy. Then she took me back to the river and said to wait under the bush until someone found me.
I called my son and ask What the H are you letting my grandson watch on tv? And I told him what he said. He said that he told them the same story a few days ago. But, chalked it up to having the smartest most amazing kid with the biggest imagination ever. (Im grandma, so I of course have to agree)
I know that kids have imaginations, but it was the pooping on sticky paper that really makes me wonder, Ive never watched a tv program that mentioned pooping on sticky paper. There were other details too much to list.
But, one of the reasons I am bothered by this story, is because I was camping in the same area the year before. And, I woke up one morning face down in the dirt, out of my tent, and sleeping bag. I had a puncture wound in the back of my head. Im a grandma in my 50s, I dont sleep in the dirt! I was violently ill. Too sick to even pack and go home. I thought it was a spider bite. It took me a very long time to feel normal. I had no creativity, no emotions. My friend was camping with us. He was sleeping in his camper. He also had a "bite" in the back of his neck. And was violently ill. We were in seperate sleeping areas. Before we went to bed there were red eyes shining through the trees in our flashlights. We thought a herd of deer were trying to get to the river, so we didnt think too much about it. But, now i wonder. My friend is checking into wildlife camara's. He wants to go up and place them around that campground.
One weird thing about this place, is that there was no wild life. The only birds we saw were 2 crows. They flew in, sat in a tree and watched us. I thought they were waiting for the cheetos to fall in the dirt. At the time, we were creeped out by them. I camp a lot, usually there are butterflies, birds, squirrals etc. This time nothing. We didnt even see a bee.
My son has forbidden to ask my grandson about the incident, because you can create a false memory, by repetitive reminding, so for a year I have not mentioned it to him. But, he is 4 1/2 now and I asked him again about what happened. He repeated the same story, except he said she took him to a dungeon instead of a cave.
It will be interesting to see if he has a memory of these events when he is about 8-9 yrs old.
This was at Mc Cloud California.

I have been very bothered by his story, so I have been researching if there are others who have simular stories. I ran accross an interview by the author of Missing 411. Which discusses the weird disappearances in our national forests. There are threads on ATS about "Missing 411".
In my reading about the national forests, I ran into discussions about the wilderness closeing due to lack of funding, and the Agenda 21 wilderness conservation acts. There are other threads about Agenda 21 also.
I think my question is, what is really going on in the national forests? Are they being closed off because there is a real threat living there?
Are they being closed and corridored and off limits to the public, because something has taken over the woods?
I wouldnt be questioning anything if our family would not have experianced unusual things in the forest.


Additional Post made later in the thread that adds to this story.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png He said the guns and purses were on a shelve and they were dirty. He acts things out and when he talked about the other robots he pushed himself back, and became stiff frozen with a distorted look on his face. My best discription of the way he looked was like han solo in the carbonite.
Acting out the pooping part was hilarious.




http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png He didnt mention skeletons or bones, or smells. I spoke with Mr Paulides only through email and only to make sure someone who is at least researching this was aware of my grandsons story. I have no idea what he will do with the info, but at least its one more voice, or just an extra number on the missing list.




http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png My sons first thought is that he was abducted by another camper, so he searched the campground first. Grandson said the other grandma just took his hand and they went for a walk to the cave. I assume she was able to get away before he ran up the river trail.
My son and daughter-in-law think he must have notice the tree start to lean, but no one else noticed it. I have a hard time believing that a 4 yr old would be so aware of his environment, especailly since the tree was on the other side of a 6' wooden fence. They cant explain why he knew I was going to get sick, maybe he got sick on left overs before, we were baffled by that, but I had to call my son to pick him up I was really ill.
If he was taken by a sicko, I would have to say that they were spooked by the posibility of getting caught by the hundreds of volunteers that immediately began to comb the area.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png There are a few questions I havent been able to address, blood type, exact camp spot for google earth etc. my son is out of town. I was at the Clear Creek Camp Ground above French Gulch, as the crow flies it is about 35-40 mi from McCloud in the same national forest. The clear creek coordinates are: 40 56 27 06 N 122 34 53 40W I apologize if I forgot to answer some questions.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png The article can be found in the Siskiyou Daily News
I dont have a subscription to the paper so I copied what I was able too:

Boy Found Safe
September 7, 2011 •• 242 words •• ID: 4560b516198bfe81bb170168b4e8e04d
MCCLOUD - A 3-year-old boy who went missing Friday at a county campground was found cold and frightened but unharmed. According to a Siskiyou County Sheriff 's Office press release, the department responded to a report of a missing child at around 7:30 p.m. Friday. The 3-year-old boy had gone missing from Fowler's Camp, located in the Mc-Cloud area in vicinity of the McCloud River. Deputies from the Sheriff 's Office were joined by the

I googled "Siskiyou Daily News" The archive section is all the way at the bottom of the first page. I used the search term "Missing Boy" the 10th article is the one about my grandson.

I couldnt remember which campground he was in, and a few people asked that question, so now we know! It happened at the Fowler Campground!!

I emailed the sheriff about what my grandson said, the same day I wrote this thread. If he replies I will paste the email if it is relivant to the topic.

[Dustin Naef]

I'm of the opinion that there is some strange stuff going on at Mt. Shasta. Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is a deep underground base, occupied by folks of a higher civilization than we.
While searching the internet I found the story in it's entirety told apparently from the first person at Above Top Secret. Here is the link to the thread. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread899732/pg1)

Hello, I'm very familiar with that case, in fact the grandmother of the boy's a good friend of mine and I'll be interviewing her about this in an upcoming video. I also did a show about this a few years back with the Travel Channel "Mysteries in the National Parks", and they covered some of the Mt. Shasta cases David Paulides talks about in his 411 Missing books. We've looked into the missing persons cases a little further recently, I have a friend John Vivanco who's a remote viewer, and what he has to say about it is pretty chilling, his team of remote viewers do not even like to look at it. I'm not a remote viewer so I don't know, but I've experienced some strange phenomenon in some areas which I would not want to have happen again. Some of the investigations we've done around Mt. Shasta in the past few years we'll be talking more about soon.

[DNA]

I'm of the opinion that there is some strange stuff going on at Mt. Shasta. Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is a deep underground base, occupied by folks of a higher civilization than we.
While searching the internet I found the story in it's entirety told apparently from the first person at Above Top Secret. Here is the link to the thread. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread899732/pg1)

Hello, I'm very familiar with that case, in fact the grandmother of the boy's a good friend of mine and I'll be interviewing her about this in an upcoming video. I also did a show about this a few years back with the Travel Channel "Mysteries in the National Parks", and they covered some of the Mt. Shasta cases David Paulides talks about in his 411 Missing books. We've looked into the missing persons cases a little further recently, I have a friend John Vivanco who's a remote viewer, and what he has to say about it is pretty chilling, his team of remote viewers do not even like to look at it. I'm not a remote viewer so I don't know, but I've experienced some strange phenomenon in some areas which I would not want to have happen again. Some of the investigations we've done around Mt. Shasta in the past few years we'll be talking more about soon.


I would absolutely love to hear what these remote viewers are stating.
The remote viewing angle is somewhere Paulides seemed a little afraid to go in. Can you elaborate at all on these remote viewings if you will?

[Dustin Naef]

I'm of the opinion that there is some strange stuff going on at Mt. Shasta. Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is a deep underground base, occupied by folks of a higher civilization than we.
While searching the internet I found the story in it's entirety told apparently from the first person at Above Top Secret. Here is the link to the thread. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread899732/pg1)

Hello, I'm very familiar with that case, in fact the grandmother of the boy's a good friend of mine and I'll be interviewing her about this in an upcoming video. I also did a show about this a few years back with the Travel Channel "Mysteries in the National Parks", and they covered some of the Mt. Shasta cases David Paulides talks about in his 411 Missing books. We've looked into the missing persons cases a little further recently, I have a friend John Vivanco who's a remote viewer, and what he has to say about it is pretty chilling, his team of remote viewers do not even like to look at it. I'm not a remote viewer so I don't know, but I've experienced some strange phenomenon in some areas which I would not want to have happen again. Some of the investigations we've done around Mt. Shasta in the past few years we'll be talking more about soon.


I would absolutely love to hear what these remote viewers are stating.
The remote viewing angle is somewhere Paulides seemed a little afraid to go in. Can you elaborate at all on these remote viewings if you will?

Pretty close to what the grandmother has said. There's something taking people who fit a certain criteria, and the remote viewers don't like to look at it, because these beings become aware that they're being *remote viewed* and you can get an unwanted visitation. John will talk about it more and I'll post some links to it when he does, but I don't want to say very much on his behalf. He recently did a show on Art Bell's Midnight In the Desert and talks about his remote viewing experiences, if you're interested you could probably find it archived (look up John Vivanco). He didn't talk about the stuff we've been investigating in Mount Shasta though, but will pretty soon.

[DNA]

There's something taking people who fit a certain criteria, and the remote viewers don't like to look at it, because these beings become aware that they're being *remote viewed* and you can get an unwanted visitation. This sounds a lot like what Ingo Swann talked about when he remote viewed the moon in his book "penetration".
Ingo Swann stated that while looking at folks on the moon in real time, they became aware of him and began looking at him.
Swann also stated he ran into a telepathy having human looking alien in a grocery store, in what I think was San Diego, but it could have been another CA city.


Could there be beings in underground bases here on earth taking people? Could those same people have a base on the moon as in what Ingo Swann is describing?


I'm hugely interested in the David Paulides work as are many of the posters here on this forum.
As for myself, I've found some strong correlative information leading one to link Sasquatch/Bigfoot with those disappearances Paulides talks about in his books, if you are interested in going down that train of thought I'll expand but I'm holding off for now.
What I don't often get a chance to expand upon is "why" does Sasquatch disappears folks?
I've often thought there are multiple ancient underground civlizations throughout the US and beyond and many such places seem coincidentally enough to be in the same location National Parks are located.
Without getting too wordy, I've often felt some of these ancient civlizations may use Sasquatch just as the example I listed with Mt. Shasta and the holographically disguised robot, and that is this, it seems Mt. Shasta inhabitants use robots, to abduct top siders for use inside of these underground bases, do other underground bases/civlizations have the same use for Sasquatch, I think that may be the case.
One such correlative piece of evidence of this for me would be the recent DNA analysis of one Melba Ketchum in regards to Bigfoot. Ketchum's work states Sasquatch is only 15,000 years old as a species, and is a human and as of right now yet to be determined animal. A 15,000 year old hybrid. This doesn't unequivocably mean anything on it's own, but for myself I ask the question "does this mean Sasquatch is made in a lab"? Does this mean Sasquatch was created in a lab 15,000 years ago?
This correlates with what many folks refer to as the times of "Atlantis", and that civilization not coming to an end until the end of the last ice age some 12,000 years ago.
Do the rements of those civilizations live on in underground cities?
Are the workers Ingo Swann remote viewed on the moon examples of people who have been abducted for work by these civlizations?
Is there similar work being done in Underground Cities across the US and beyond?

[Deega]

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Very interesting story, had the opportunity to spend 5 days in Shasta Mountain, with a group meditating, could feel the energies, none of us lived a similar experience as this child.
As you are aware, there is a folklore standing of Shasta being an ancient Lemurian site.

[Althena]

Nice one Dustin and welcome to your new home. I think this info would make a nice addition to my thread here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88574-David-Paulides-research-over-1600-inexplicable-abductions-in-National-Parks-wilderness-and-urban-areas/page6,

Paul what do you think?

I believe this is one of Bill's favorite subjects, I also found these events very interesting to say the least. There's a whole bunch of good research and info in this thread, specially by Bill's knowledgeable contributions to it.

You should definitely check it out.

[mojo]

ever see anything unusual on the drive up?

RayMJnX99RA

[Dustin Naef]

@DNA - Yeah I've heard many of these things before, but when you really get into these possibilities you really just fall down into a rabbit hole, where you're trying to explain one unexplained mystery with another. When I come across stuff like this I don't know where to go with it, it's pretty much outside my experience. I've seen unusual paranormal stuff, and also seen plain evidence of Sasquatch but not sure what to make of it except to say almost anythings possible in an infinite universe.

[Dustin Naef]

ever see anything unusual on the drive up?

RayMJnX99RA

Not that I can recall, although I heard that there was an anti-gravity spot on the road where if you stopped with your car in neutral you'd roll uphill - it was mentioned in newspaper articles as far back as 30 years ago. I went to the place where its supposed to be but there was no way I could safely test it without risking getting hit by oncoming traffic...I would really like to though, someday...

[DNA]

Not that I can recall, although I heard that there was an anti-gravity spot on the road where if you stopped with your car in neutral you'd roll uphill - it was mentioned in newspaper articles as far back as 30 years ago. I went to the place where its supposed to be but there was no way I could safely test it without risking getting hit by oncoming traffic...I would really like to though, someday...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPHR2FAiVos
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I will just go out on a limb and state I believe there are underground bases, isolated civilizations that are technologically advanced. I believe most of these to be ancient rather than new.
With that being said, doesn't it seem like the manifestations taking place in these VORTEX places are by products of something? I understand they could very well be natural, but these things scream to me of being byproducts of physics bending technology deep within the earth.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/lorae41/Vortices/retrunfocustriangledone.jpg


The Native Americans have always told folks to stay away from Crater Lake. They considered it a no no. They wouldn't have anything to do with it.
David Paulides has chronicalled not a few people who have gone missing here and never been found again. In many of the Paulides trouble spots people go missing and are sometimes found. Not in Crater Lake. You go missing in Crater Lake you are gone forever it seems.
I think under Crater Lake, probably miles under, there is some type of base.
I don't think these people are the same as the folks at Mt. Shasta.
They seem to be less warm and fuzzy.
Like you wouldn't want to have anything to do with them.
I think it is worth adding that Crater Lake is the deepest lake in the USA at nearly 2000 ft. deep.

[Althena]

I used to live close to this one: tjYbY60dIO0

I have many nice memories from going there all through out my early life.

[wnlight]

I visited Crater Lake several times in 1968 with my wife, and have swum in the lake. I can take cold water, but Crater Lake water is really cold - even in August. I have also been on top of Mt. Ashland day and night that same year. We were camping near Ashland that summer while I took some math classes at SOC. Nothing spooky happened to us.

[TrumanCash]

Hello Dustin. What does your research indicate about the "Telosians" vis-a-vis Mt Shasta?

[Maz]

I think Max Spiers mentioned that there are portals, some sort of connection between MT. Shasta and Sedona AZ. Is this true? Does anyone know anything about this?

[Bill Ryan]

We've looked into the missing persons cases a little further recently, I have a friend John Vivanco who's a remote viewer, and what he has to say about it is pretty chilling.

For reference:

http://midnightinthedesert.com/john-vivanco

http://projectavalon.net/John_Vivanco.jpg

John's website: http://righthemispheric.com

Yes, Dave Paulides has always said that he's not been able to contact any Remote Viewers who would return his messages and help. It's worth speculating (only speculating!) that some of those he's reached out to may have quietly backed away, intuitively sensing serious danger.

[Pam]

Welcome Dustin Naef!! I am listening to your videos as I write this, will comment more when I listen to everything. I am so happy to have you on PA.

[Dustin Naef]

Yeah Crater Lake's an amazing place, I've spent a lot of time up there--I didn't have any paranormal experiences, but there's enough lore surrounding it that I could write an entire book on it if I wanted to. There are many Native American legends about it, and it wasn't a place a person would ordinarily go unless you were going on a vision quest or to receive some kind of special spiritual training by a doctor (or medicine person). It was considered too powerful a spot to visit for any other reason, and if you went there carelessly you might vanish, be killed or injured, or the spirits might drive you crazy...

The same warnings with visiting Crater Lake are also apply to Mount Shasta and other sacred sites, some Native Americans will not go up on Mt. Shasta past the tree line because that area was reserved for sacred beings, and supposed to be left alone--and if you violated that you could get hurt, killed, attract negative attachments, disappear, or go crazy. These kinds of sacred places are used and viewed very differently in Native American traditions, they weren't really thought of as places to go and just look around and camp out.

[Dustin Naef]

Hello Dustin. What does your research indicate about the "Telosians" vis-a-vis Mt Shasta?

There's no question that all kinds of mysterious beings, cryptids, and spirits are described in Native American lore--but I haven't really come across anything prehistoric in the historical record which goes back further than 100 years that would suggest Telosians and Lemurians had any kind of presence around Mount Shasta. Those tales did not begin to surface until around 100 years ago. There's descriptions and legends of other kinds of beings, but nothing that matches the modern day accounts.

However Mount Shasta's such a energetic place that a person could encounter a variety of different beings coming through at any time, as in any other paranormally active site.

[kirolak]

Hello, Mr Dustin Naef - I just want to add my humble voice (if I may!) to the big welcome you're getting! :clapping: Lovely topic, & so many interesting links have already cropped up in this thread - I look forward to hearing more of your insights & experiences, as well as those of other people as they add to the conversation!

May I ask what lead you to Avalon? Or was it a direct invitation from Bill?

[ghostrider]

Ive read where Mt Shasta is home to an underground city of 700 people who are survivors of Atlantis, Nordic looking, tall , perfect features, and are known to venture into small towns for trading ... it is said they carry stun weapons in case someone ventures too close to the entrance of th hidden city...

[Cardillac]

@Bill Ryan

it wouldn't surprise me at all that remote viewers are silent about David Paulides' requests- according to Paulides the US National Park Service has always been even more silent;

so what's going on out/in there?-

if one has read anthroplogist Lloyd Pye's book "Everything You Know is Wrong" it took people over 2000 yrs. to believe the Panda Bear actually exists because earlier so few had seen one because of their very remote habitat; Big Foot/Sasquatch/Yetis actually exist but because of their very remote habitats (same scenario- history repeats itself) few have seen them (but these hominoids are much stonger and more intelligent than Panda bears) and they are probably capable of abduction of humans (for whatever reason) when they at times emerege into our outer-fringe territory our we finaly manage to infringe on their territory-

Larry

[ghostrider]

Scroll to line 260 of contact report #39 for a start ... thefutureofmankind.uk. ... the contact reports are littered with talk of Atlantis, and two underground cities housing ETs not originally from Earth...

[Daozen]

Regarding Telos I will only say this: "If it doesn't exist, we can build it ourselves."

[Dustin Naef]

Hello, Mr Dustin Naef - I just want to add my humble voice (if I may!) to the big welcome you're getting! :clapping: Lovely topic, & so many interesting links have already cropped up in this thread - I look forward to hearing more of your insights & experiences, as well as those of other people as they add to the conversation!

May I ask what lead you to Avalon? Or was it a direct invitation from Bill?

Hi, and thank you for the welcome! The only online presence I've had the past few years is through Facebook but it's not that interesting to me it's too unfocused and adversarial. I came across PA while looking at some other large, community based forums that revolve around these kinds of subjects--and PA really stood out, and seemed like a friendlier atmosphere to hang out in and learn something new!

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Regarding Telos I will only say this: "If it doesn't exist, we can built it ourselves."

Well said, I like that idea!

[DNA]

The same warnings with visiting Crater Lake are also apply to Mount Shasta and other sacred sites, some Native Americans will not go up on Mt. Shasta past the tree line because that area was reserved for sacred beings, and supposed to be left alone--and if you violated that you could get hurt, killed, attract negative attachments, disappear, or go crazy.


Here is a story made available on the David Paulides website. The story is about a man who was skirting right above the tree line on a Oregon Mountain during a multi-day hike.
This man ran into what seemed to be a portal into another world, and an entity with malevolent designs.


The story is about a man on a long hike in the Oregon Mountains and two days into his hike he feels he walked into a "trap", the trap was a door way into another dimension. The man barely escaped with his life he felt and he felt the trap was laid by a bigfoot.
The story and others like it can be found here http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/vanishing_bigfoot.html




The Trap
This account is from Larry Kelm whom I personally spoke with during a BFRO (Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization) field trip in Ruidoso, NM.
Quote: “In the fall of 1980 I ran a small business as a construction contractor in Eugene, Oregon. During the slow times and in-between jobs I would don my backpack and hiking boots and disappear into the mountains for weeks at a time enjoying the peaceful solitude of long hikes. At that time I was single and didn’t answer to anyone so I was free to do what I wanted when I wanted. On the trip in question I decided to hike the old Mollala Indian trail that followed the ridge tops from Saddle Blanket Mountain to Oakridge, one of the Native American’s favorite summer camps and trading centers. It was a beautiful August day, two days into the hike (I expected to be gone about two weeks), when literally out of the blue the most terrifying thing that ever happened to me in my life occurred. It would change my perspective of reality forever.
“I was walking along the trail enjoying the strong breeze and bright sunshine when, in the middle of a step, everything around me started to turn gray and blurry. The only way I can describe it was as if suddenly I was looking through someone else’s prescription sunglasses. I finished the step and started another. Every inch I moved forward the darkness increased and the gray blurring turned into a jumble of shapes that made no sense. I then seemed to pass a barrier and everything started to return back into focus when my foot reached the ground on the second step everything around me had changed. Day had turned into night and there was no wind. All the Douglas Fir and pine trees had been replaced with thick jungle-like growth. The cool thin mountain air was replaced with humid thick air. There were no stars in the sky, but there was a diffused light that let me see everything clearly, however I couldn’t tell what the light source was.
“As often happens when the human body receives a massive dose of adrenaline the entire incident appeared like it was in slow motion and even though I was only there for a second or two I had time to observe my surroundings. The silence was broken by [a] continuous high pitched keening sound, and I was nearly overwhelmed with a sense of fear and danger. My momentum caused me to take one more step before stopping in my tracks.
“It was at this point, I heard a whispered "Gotcha" over my right shoulder. I couldn’t tell if I heard it with my ears or inside my head. The word wasn’t directed at me but something said the word quietly to itself. I was so terrified I actually felt my heart stop for a moment. That whispered word is what saved me. I opened my mouth and gasped in a huge gush of thick air and recoiled backward in the same footsteps I had entered wherever I was. As I threw myself backward, I looked over my right shoulder. A dark colored hairy right hand and arm was reaching for my throat over my shoulder. The hand had pale ivory spade-shaped fingernails. The nails looked clean and almost had a manicured look to them. The thumb was placed lower (towards the wrist) on the hand than a human’s is. Both hand and arm were thin and powerful looking and both were covered with thick coarse black hair.
“I got a good look at it because the thumbnail grazed my neck (it did not break the skin) as I moved backwards. As I continued backwards, the hand clutched where my neck had been a split second before and it seemed to fade off into the distance as I returned through the Portal.
“I took two more steps backwards a nd everything reversed itself from what had just happened. The world around me became lighter, the fir and pines gradually came back into view and by the third step I was back on Saddle Blanket Mountain.
“I continued to move backwards in terror, and as I did, I observed that where I had just come from was a shimmering oval patch of air about the size of a large door. The woods behind it looked like it was under water. By the fifth backward step the shimmering area seemed to just evaporate and everything was back to normal. By then my lungs had nearly burst from the volume of air I had inhaled during the huge gasp I had just taken. My body felt like it was on fire from the adrenaline surge. I spun around and ran back down the trail as fast as my legs could carry me, and didn’t stop until I reached my truck. I was nearly two days getting to that place and about three hours getting back.
“On my way home I was absolutely horrified at the thought of what would happen if I were to drive my truck into something like that. It had been a trap pure and simple. Whatever it was that tried to kill me somehow kept the Portal hidden from me on the way in, and I didn’t actually see it until I was back out again. I had terrible nightmares for years, and still haven’t come to grips with what happened. My fingers are trembling and the hair is standing up on the nape of my neck as I write this.”

[TrumanCash]

Thank you for your response to my question. Also, do you have any information on the secret compound at Mt Shasta where the Bush, Cheney, et al cabal hunted Cathy O'Brien and other MKUltra mind control victims?

[kirolak]

That is one of the most terrifying things I've ever read :( The sad thing is that we can no longer enjoy nature, go for hikes in the wilderness, or camp out overnight in a forest, without this sense of knowing we are not alone - & not in a good way. It feels like the final loss of innocence. :(

(BTW in a brief aside: I was once driving at night along a deserted highway through the desert, with weird craggy rocks on either side of the road, when everything seemed to change into a caricature of a jungle scene, with bright parrots in gigantic palm-like trees. . . I slowed down in astonishment, & veered towards a bright light that was approaching; the light was the headlamps of a car in the opposite lane & I narrowly missed causing a head-on collision. I put it all down to sleep deprivation, but often think about the weird scenes on either side of the highway, so detailed & colourful but somehow also menacing & luring. I even remember the thought I had just before the "scene change"; I was thinking that the rocks were like the hypostatised bodies of ancient reptiles.)

[Dustin Naef]

Regarding Telos I will only say this: "If it doesn't exist, we can build it ourselves."

There's a lot interest and fascination about Mount Shasta regarding the Inner-Earth realms and the idea of underground civilizations. I've written a lot about this in the past, and it's also one of the central mysteries surrounding the J.C. Brown legend which I talk about in my book and the video series I posted at the top of this thread.

There's some evidence that people in prehistoric times did in fact live underground in some areas around Mount Shasta, which I researched and wrote about in my book. There's a place called Lava Beds National Monument which is said to have one of the largest concentrations of underground tunnels and caves anywhere in North America. Much of it unexplored. Roughly %10 of this area has been explored in the past, and about 200 archeological sites catalogued--but it's estimated that hundreds of thousands of additional sites remain.

People began to arrive in Lava Beds around 11,000 years ago, I believe they might have selected this area because its extensive tunnels and subterranean cave systems perhaps offered some kind of shelter and protection from something. 11,000 years ago would roughly correspond to a period following a massive, worldwide cataclysm which was global in scale. Many different cultures all over the world were thought to have retreated to living underground during and following this cataclysmic period that occurred in pre-history.

If anyone is curious to see what these tunnels and caves beneath Lava Beds look like I made two videos of our explorations of them this past summer. Some of these caves in Lava Beds are unbelievably huge. Skull Cave is so big, you could probably fly an aircraft into it. In the video title "Sentinel Cave" something paranormal actually followed us out, but you can't really see it on camera...

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[Dustin Naef]

The same warnings with visiting Crater Lake are also apply to Mount Shasta and other sacred sites, some Native Americans will not go up on Mt. Shasta past the tree line because that area was reserved for sacred beings, and supposed to be left alone--and if you violated that you could get hurt, killed, attract negative attachments, disappear, or go crazy.


Here is a story made available on the David Paulides website. The story is about a man who was skirting right above the tree line on a Oregon Mountain during a multi-day hike.
This man ran into what seemed to be a portal into another world, and an entity with malevolent designs.

This sounds like some kind of time-slip, I've heard similar accounts before and on two occasions witnessed myself what David Paulides included in his last book "Hunters" the 'predator-effect' where some shimmering/mirage like portal appears. The most recent time was at Pluto's Cave near Mount Shasta, I was with two other friends and we all began to see a shimmering/distortion in the back of the cave. We were filming the whole time, and you can see us reacting to it on film, but the camera began to malfunction and lose focus as we tried to capture it on film. Whether it was low light, or if something was affecting our camera I can't say. Although we were filming in infrared so low light shouldn't have been an issue IMHO. I've filmed many, many times in Pluto's Cave and never had that issue happen.

At some point I'll do a video on it and release the footage, but I do believe there are portals in the area where things can come through. There is no evidence better than personal experience.

[Dustin Naef]

Thank you for your response to my question. Also, do you have any information on the secret compound at Mt Shasta where the Bush, Cheney, et al cabal hunted Cathy O'Brien and other MKUltra mind control victims?

A good friend and hunter I know has told me that somewhere on easterly side of Mount Shasta, he has been out hunting in the back-country and noticed that large areas fenced off with government signs posted on them. It's a very remote area, and I've never been out there myself but I trust him and don't think he would have an reason to lie to me about it. I would not go out there myself.

Not sure about the MKULTRA, have looked into it a little bit and I do suspect that some people around Mount Shasta have been victimized in such ways, in that they have been intentionally experimented on psychologically without their knowing - or fed disinformation as a strategy to cover up something else that's going on. But I try not to get into Black Ops and conspiracy theories it's too scary, and I don't like probing into stuff like that.

[sunwings]

This Reddit thread shocked me many years ago. Its called " Why I never answer when someone calls my name while I'm hunting" ( in the woods)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/3ismze/why_i_never_answer_when_someone_calls_my_name/?st=iupiyx8w&sh=bf0d7f01

Also a book called Obake Files by Glen Grants shines a light on the darkness inside our forests and mountains! :sherlock:

[Patient]

Although not at mount Shasta, I have experienced some type of strange portal or area where light was somehow distorted and it made all of my senses go on the alert. This was related to paranormal activity, and my point is that these things do exist. When you experience something like this, there is no mistaking that it is some type of distortion to our current reality and it is some type of pathway or opening.

[DNA]

This Reddit thread shocked me many years ago. Its called " Why I never answer when someone calls my name while I'm hunting" ( in the woods)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/3ismze/why_i_never_answer_when_someone_calls_my_name/?st=iupiyx8w&sh=bf0d7f01

Also a book called Obake Files by Glen Grants shines a light on the darkness inside our forests and mountains! :sherlock:
It's a good read. I thought I would include it here for folks. :)



All these stories about the wilderness made me remember a story my cousin told me.
Hunting is a huge part of the culture in Hawaii, and kids often learn from a very young age how to hunt. My cousin, who is in his late 20’s now and has been hunting for a good 20 years of his life, has had some strange experiences in the wilderness, but this one always stuck with me as the weirdest one. Have you ever heard of a calling spirit? I’m sure they exist outside of Hawaii, but the gist is, if you’re somewhere like the woods, or you’re alone somewhere, if you hear someone call your name, you do not answer. Bad things happen when you answer. I’m going to write the story like how he told it to me:
“I was around eight years old when this happened, when I had just started going hunting. Me, my cousins and my uncle went hunting one evening in Wailua. By the time we were done we were about a mile away from our truck. It was about 9:00 p.m. and it was dark. My uncle said, ‘I’m going to go get the truck, you kids wait here.’ But my cousins wanted to go with my uncle. I said, ‘I’ll wait right here. You come get me, I’m not walking.” I was over walking. My uncle was like, ‘You sure you wanna wait alone?’ I said, ‘Hell no! I'm not walking, I'll wait.’ So he said he would be back in half an hour with the truck.
“Not too long after they left, I heard something moving in the bushes. Then I heard my uncle’s voice. ‘Hey! Kai! Come on let’s go.’ I said, ‘Hell no I’m not walking back!’
“And then my uncle whistled.
“You know when you’re out playing with the other kids in the neighborhood and your dad whistles for you to come inside and you know when you hear that whistle, you better go fast? That’s the kind of whistle it was. So I jumped up and started walking.
“My uncle was walking ahead of me. I couldn't see him in the bushes, but I could hear him because he’s saying things like, ‘You don’t wanna listen, you gonna get in trouble.’ Then he said, ‘Come on, let's go down here.’ He wanted to go into the bushes, off the path. I knew something was wrong. I said, ‘But I thought we were going back to the truck?’ Just then, I saw headlights, back in the direction we started. And then I heard my uncle’s stereo blasting; the only song he ever plays when he goes hunting.
“I start running.
“I take off, and something grabs my backpack. I fly my arms back and I let whatever it was take my bag. I get to the truck and my uncle asks, ‘Where’s your stuff?’ I point back to where I was and say, ‘I was following you.’ My uncle turns pale and yells, ‘Get in the car now!!!’
“I’m bawling, I’m scared. I know I messed up. I know you never answer when someone calls, but it sounded just like my uncle. He immediately took me to my other uncle, who blessed me. Till this day, when I go hunting, I never answer when anyone calls my name.”

[sunwings]

It's a good read. I thought I would include it here for folks. :)

This is my favourite...well least favourite from the Reddit posts!

I had a similar event happen to me. I was exploring the woods during the winter time in Michigan. There's a river that runs for about a mile through the woods, and then it runs into this big iron barred drain. It was getting late, and my friend said he was going to head back inside. I said that's fine but I'm gonna stay out a little longer and finish up the fort we were making. Roughly 5 minutes after he left, I heard him call my name. "Hawaiianorgasm, come on follow me I found something really cool down the river". Me, being the curious child I was, didn't ask any questions and followed him. He leads me to the drain and goes underneath the part of the drain that has just enough room to wiggle through. "Come on dude, let's go in here and look for some cool stuff". Just then, I hear my mom yell that it's time to come in. I run home, not wanting an ass whopping, and get home to see my friend talking to my family. I started bawling because it didn't make sense. I told them about how my friend had led me to the drain and wanted me to go in, but they said that he had been at the house for the past 15 minutes. My parents called the police and I wasn't allowed to go into the woods anymore.

[tessfreq]

Hi Dustin,
Thanks for sharing your work and information. I love finding out more about that area.
My mom, sisters and I would make a yearly trip to shasta and stay on the mountain. Lots of extraordinary experiences were had. On one trip we hung around this wheel that is off to the right of the big meadow above the campground and got this picture.
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If this is more then lens flare then it does seem to be a giant.
:idea:

[Cartomancer]

Here is another view of what is happening at Mt. Shasta. Published over three months ago........entitled "Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed." Nice to see you made it here just as I was posting my video series and new book for sale here. Welcome.
https://www.createspace.com/6529870

[Dustin Naef]

Here is another view of what is happening at Mt. Shasta. Published over three months ago........entitled "Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed." Nice to see you made it here just as I was posting my video series and new book for sale here. Welcome.
https://www.createspace.com/6529870

Hello Cort, I really don't see my book in competition with yours Mount Shasta is a big enough place to allow for more than one viewpoint. And as we've been friends on Facebook for years, you know that I've been working on my book for years and the title has not changed. I regret that you now see me as an adversary, but my book is very different and my intent in writing it was to cover the prehistoric lore and Native American legends about Mount Shasta. I have over 300 historical references cited in the book that can be fact checked. If this information counters what you've written, it's not because I have any personal bias against your work or an agenda, I wrote a history book largely based on Mount Shasta's Native American lore and local legends. I believe Native American traditions and legends do in fact preserve accurate memories of past historical events, and that's the premise of my book. Most all the material in my book goes into the prehistoric history of Mount Shasta and is from Native American lore, so I don't really understand how it counters what you've written. I really don't want to get into an argument here, I'm fine by letting people judge it by its own merits, and I think all the historical references I cited in the book will speak for themselves so I don't feel the need to defend myself against critics.

[Dustin Naef]

Hi Dustin,
Thanks for sharing your work and information. I love finding out more about that area.
My mom, sisters and I would make a yearly trip to shasta and stay on the mountain. Lots of extraordinary experiences were had. On one trip we hung around this wheel that is off to the right of the big meadow above the campground and got this picture.
34456

If this is more then lens flare then it does seem to be a giant.
:idea:

Neat. It nearly looks like some kind of robed figure, there are tales about a "spectral lady" who sometimes appears to people on the mountain and she is described as an apparition clothed in flowing robes. Quite a few stories about her I think her name is Duja.

[mojo]

the prehistoric lore and Native American legends about Mount Shasta
That would be the Shasta tribe. One of my favorite resource books that is out of print unfortunately but still can be found around is entitled, A Guide to the Indian Tribes of the Pacific Northwest by Robert and Ruby Brown. It's an outstanding resource and sure you must have read it. The chapter on the Shasta is quite small like most of them in the book, but some great nuggets and photos and tribal areas. It's sad how we incorporated them onto reservations where the unique tribal identities, cultures and language were lost. It's a great help if anything you can glean from an ancient time is re-learned. There's a few folklore tales I found online but not much either especially in areas that are more cryptic in their research that are more special to me. Author John Roth (personally known) wrote a book on American Elves that is like a dictionary.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Elves-Encyclopedia-Western-Hemisphere/dp/0899509444

Personally not necessarily sold on Mt Shasta being so special as much as the region itself, with it's own magical properties around almost every turn. In your research it must be extremely difficult to search for discoveries related to prehistoric time? One special place that visited to see ancient artifacts is a strange business but great museum called Trees of Mystery and bet you visited that popular site along 101. It seems like an archaeology dig in the region would benefit if you can find one...

[DNA]

Here is another view of what is happening at Mt. Shasta. Published over three months ago........entitled "Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed." Nice to see you made it here just as I was posting my video series and new book for sale here. Welcome.
https://www.createspace.com/6529870

Hi Cartomancer. I've been to your thread, and I just don't understand your intent and or the point of what you are trying to say. You seem to be withholding information in the hopes folks here will buy your book to see what you are about. I think I tried to contribute to your thread and you basically gave me a debunkers type answer.
So my take on what you were saying was that you were attempting to demystify and debunk the claims about Mt. Shasta. There is just absolutely no fun in that.
Dustin on the other hand is talking the language the forum understands.
David Paulides and the mysteries surrounding such are a big draw in these parts.
Do the math. I believe the age old adage "know your audience" applies here.

[Cartomancer]

Withholding information? I have over an hour and a half of videos I made in the last two months on my post detailing all of this. I don't care if anyone buys my book. You are deluded if you think there is even any money to be made. See I take the time to write six books and make barely anything off of that and you accuse me of doing this to make money. I have over one hundred and twenty videos on youtube and only charge anything to watch TWO of them. So thanks for acknowledging the degree to which I have been studying and supplying everyone with free information for almost ten years now. In addition most of each book I publish is available for several months for free on my blog. So try another route of critiscism there DNA. I am fully aware the degree to which people on this forum will and will not drink the Kool Aid there. So of course what Dustin is spinning sounds a lot better and does not really challenge anything and indeed supports many false notions of what is going on. I am not here to supply everyone with fun. I think people are being massively fooled with many of the concepts that are floating around in association w/ Mt. Shasta. In the meantime I uncovered a great deal of odd things that have a basis in mainstream history that is totally ignored in favor of flying saucers and bigfoot. Someone does not want you thinking about what I am presenting and the standard story you hear there is simply to cover that up imo. This accusation of me withholding information is simply insane and made with no basis at all so thanks a lot for that. I am debunking all of this but what is exposed is even more bizarre so go back to looking at only what is intentionally being presented with you. I found info that showed me the truth of Mt. Shasta in other nearby cities and towns. BTW I am not trying to appeal to a specific audience like other material that is designed only to get one a gig on Coast to Coast AM. Really since this other Shasta thread appeared you are now the second person who has no compunction about being abusive and insulting to me for absolutely no reason. Accusing someone of being a profit monger when they give half of what they do away for free is simply ludicrous and really you should apologize to me.

[DNA]

Withholding information? I have over an hour and a half of videos I made in the last two months on my post detailing all of this. I don't care if anyone buys my book. You are deluded if you think there is even any money to be made. See I take the time to write six books and make barely anything off of that and you accuse me of doing this to make money. I have over one hundred and twenty videos on youtube and only charge anything to watch TWO of them. So thanks for acknowledging the degree to which I have been studying and supplying everyone with free information for almost ten years now. In addition most of each book I publish is available for several months for free on my blog. So try another route of critiscism there DNA. I am fully aware the degree to which people on this forum will and will not drink the Kool Aid there. So of course what Dustin is spinning sounds a lot better and does not really challenge anything and indeed supports many false notions of what is going on. I am not here to supply everyone with fun. I think people are being massively fooled with many of the concepts that are floating around in association w/ Mt. Shasta. In the meantime I uncovered a great deal of odd things that have a basis in mainstream history that is totally ignored in favor of flying saucers and bigfoot. Someone does not want you thinking about what I am presenting and the standard story you hear there is simply to cover that up imo. This accusation of me withholding information is simply insane and made with no basis at all so thanks a lot for that. I am debunking all of this but what is exposed is even more bizarre so go back to looking at only what is intentionally being presented with you. I found info that showed me the truth of Mt. Shasta in other nearby cities and towns. BTW I am not trying to appeal to a specific audience like other material that is designed only to get one a gig on Coast to Coast AM. Really since this other Shasta thread appeared you are now the second person who has no compunction about being abusive and insulting to me for absolutely no reason. Accusing someone of being a profit monger when they give half of what they do away for free is simply ludicrous and really you should apologize to me.


If you feel insulted think about how Dustin feels with his thread being derailed with your dramatic demand for this thread to now revolve around you.


I'll apologize twenty times in a row if it will get you to go back to your own Shasta thread where upon you may listen to the crickets chirp. I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

[Dustin Naef]

the prehistoric lore and Native American legends about Mount Shasta
That would be the Shasta tribe. One of my favorite resource books that is out of print unfortunately but still can be found around is entitled, A Guide to the Indian Tribes of the Pacific Northwest by Robert and Ruby Brown. It's an outstanding resource and sure you must have read it. The chapter on the Shasta is quite small like most of them in the book, but some great nuggets and photos and tribal areas. It's sad how we incorporated them onto reservations where the unique tribal identities, cultures and language were lost. It's a great help if anything you can glean from an ancient time is re-learned. There's a few folklore tales I found online but not much either especially in areas that are more cryptic in their research that are more special to me. Author John Roth (personally known) wrote a book on American Elves that is like a dictionary.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Elves-Encyclopedia-Western-Hemisphere/dp/0899509444

Personally not necessarily sold on Mt Shasta being so special as much as the region itself, with it's own magical properties around almost every turn. In your research it must be extremely difficult to search for discoveries related to prehistoric time? One special place that visited to see ancient artifacts is a strange business but great museum called Trees of Mystery and bet you visited that popular site along 101. It seems like an archaeology dig in the region would benefit if you can find one...

Hello, thanks for those suggestions I'll look up those books. There are many, many traditions and legends about so-called "Little People" in Native American lore around Mount Shasta. Most all the tribes have some variation of this legends and the role they play in helping humans, and also as guardians protecting certain areas from intrusions. Some of the tales about the Star People often describe them as beings of small-stature, roughly the size of children--I believe many of the tales about Star People and Little People are probably variations describing the same thing.

Around Mount Shasta and the northwest there are ancient legends about beings called the Wa-Gas, or Woge/Wogas who in some versions are described as being smaller than modern humans. At some point they had more open contact with the ancestors of Native American's, but they mysteriously vanished before a Great Flood wiped out civilizations all over the planet.

I've never visited the Trees of Mystery, but have spent many summers and winters in that area along the Pacific Coast and these lands were said to have been inhabited by the Woge in ancient times.

[mojo]

... on the differing opinions can understand Cartomancer's pov a little and hope he does not take the differences in personalities to present information as an insult to him and his research, and have to admit DNA will speak his pov but again DNA says what some other people sometimes think. Not about Cartomancer but even scrutinized others and came back to apologize which shows he will share against the mainstream current and admit his own faults. Dustin is new here and posted a thread similar right on top of the other Cartomancer thread. I even noticed the strangeness in lack of cross communication. But that's over hopefully, and would like to see Cartomancer's opinions shared on the subject matter here. Definitely having the kind of experience he brings only helps to understand.

[Dustin Naef]

I joined Project Avalon because I thought it would be a refuge from the kinds of vicious attacks you're subjected to elsewhere on the web, but obviously I was wrong. I would be happy if the Mods wish to move this thread somewhere else where it will not agitate other authors, and just as happy to leave too, as I didn't join in anticipation of being accused of deceiving people about Mount Shasta as part of a conspiracy to suppress the truth.

[mojo]

I hope you stay..
And that my post did not upset you as you didn't do anything wrong..

[Cartomancer]

Hey. Let's all just chill out. Dustin you should stay here. I have plenty of other info to share and post here and always have. So welcome. Let's just move on and forget all about this. Does not do us any good. I am sorry if I insulted you. Your work does have value I have just found different things than you.

[loc333]

dont go give it a chance . I thought it was all great hang in there. Your gonna get a lot of people who just dont get it and won't. But this is a place where you'll also find the most understanding as well hang in there boy o

[Bill Ryan]

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Hello, Folks -- I'd really like to say a word here, if I may... both personal, and also representing the mods team. (We called an ad hoc emergency meeting to discuss this a few minutes ago, when we saw the red flare go up. :) )

On the basis of what we know and can see (visibly), there appear to be no bad guys here. But Avalon is no stranger to vigorous discussion. Our "Where Science and Spirituality Meet" adage covers a vast spectrum of points of view, experience, opinion, and (also!) facts.

Mt Shasta may be no exception. I've not chipped in materially on the thread, because I actually know comparatively little about the subject (or the area). That's why I've been reading with great interest.

Cartomancer wrote
I am fully aware the degree to which people on this forum will and will not drink the Kool Aid there. So of course what Dustin is spinning sounds a lot better and does not really challenge anything and indeed supports many false notions of what is going on. I am not here to supply everyone with fun. I think people are being massively fooled with many of the concepts that are floating around in association w/ Mt. Shasta. In the meantime I uncovered a great deal of odd things that have a basis in mainstream history that is totally ignored in favor of flying saucers and bigfoot.

Well, that was just a little tough (and DNA, please cool it! We do not need any fires stoked here) — but it also reminds me of the whole subject of ufology, which I do know quite a lot about. (Bigfoot too, by the way, which is 100% most certainly a real flesh-and-blood creature. Whether it’s connected with or lives on Mt Shasta or not, I have no idea.)

Taking ufology alone, that field has for a long time been a battleground between those who see only nuts-and-bolts spacecraft, with some kind of exotic propulsion system — and others who, they more they look at the topic (like Richard Dolan! Maybe the most knowledgeable of us all) admit that there’s less and less that they really understand. (Me too, I should say. That's why I keep studying and listening.)

So, all this is a way of saying that all views can coexist here. I’d suggest that's how we all learn.

I have the highest respect for anyone who’s actually written a book of any kind. That takes some doing. And on that road to publication, one invests a great deal of one’s time, heart and soul into something that might not always get the attention it deserves. Kudos to all authors who may be reading these words. :star:

I urge everyone to please continue — civilly and with respect. There will be one or two sensitivities here, and we can maybe all understand that. We can live in the same house (or occupy the same stage) with those who we might not always agree with, but war doesn't have to break out because of that.

Dustin, I personally very much appreciate you as a new member here… I wrote privately to the other mods, two days ago, and they will confirm:
loving the presence of Dustin Naef on the forum. I do urge you to stay and continue to engage with us all. I, for one, would have my learning about this very much curtailed if you were to leave us.

[Dustin Naef]

Thank you Bill, and everyone else, I would much rather stay here I was just dreading the thought of logging in everyday to have to respond to negative comments posted about myself or research. It's not really what I envisioned when I joined up, it's draining, and it takes time and energy away from being able to discuss more interesting things. I'm more than happy to answer questions or respond to criticism, but that was just getting out of hand.

[Maz]

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at 1:00 Max says that MT Shasta is the female entrance to the inner earth, and he use to go there all the time. Can anyone elaborate on this please?

[Dustin Naef]

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at 1:00 Max says that MT Shasta is the female entrance to the inner earth, and he use to go there all the time. Can anyone elaborate on this please?

Thanks Maz, I didn't know Max had a connection to Mt. Shasta but I'll have to look into that. Many people go on these visionary "astral journeys" into the Inner-Earth via some kind of portal connection with Mt. Shasta, the personification of the mountain with some kind of "female" divinity or aspect is also a very widespread belief. It used to be said (in the 70's) that 100 cults from all over the world trace their beliefs back to Mt. Shasta, but today that number is probably in the thousands, or tens of thousands. So there's a lot of different beliefs that revolve around that idea.

I found it deeply upsetting and troubling what happened to Max, and I think there is some sinister occult activity going on here at Mount Shasta - and elsewhere, that I've looked into. I don't believe it's connected to any Satanic organizations who operate publicly, I think its the work of a cult that does not have a public persona, but is hidden and operates more clandestinely like cells of terrorists. I personally believe its connected to an ancient water-cult that began thousands of years ago, and they operate in areas where there's a ritualistic connection to water, or where the water is believed to possess spiritual or mystical properties (such as Mt. Shasta's water). The ancient worship of water divinities is probably the oldest belief system in the world, I wrote a book about it scheduled to be published sometime next year.

I believe a lot of the kidnapped/missing people, especially those who later turn up dead in or by water, could be human sacrifices - such as all those cases of drowned males David Paulides talks about it "A Sobering Coincidence". There are cases like that around Mount Shasta (not in his book) that I've looked into.

I have also found water shrines around Mount Shasta that have been recently used for occult activity, check out the video and pictures...

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http://i.imgur.com/wMx5dE1.jpg

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Whoever was up here at that ancient ruin in the forest doing this, was definitely not a New Ager--this is something older, more bizarre and esoteric that I've never seen up here before. Does anyone recognize the glyph that was burnt in that coffin-like catchment, on top of this old water shrine in the forest?

When I was at that site you see in my video, something drained and fried the battery in my camera while I was recording and to this day it will not re-charge.

http://i.imgur.com/PHnrTRx.jpg

The above picture is human remains left by a sacred spring on Mt. Shasta, and made into a little altar for some kind of ritual--I got this photo via a FOIA request I made on Mount Shasta with the Forest Service - I know they have much, much more about the bizarre occult stuff that goes on up here that the public doesn't know about, but it took me over a year to get some images and information like this, and God only knows what else they have...

[DNA]

I'm a huge Edgar Cayce fan.



Edgar Cayce Reading 630-2 25. The entity was among those that journeyed from Mu to what is NOW Oregon; and there STILL may be seen SOMETHING of the worship as set up, in what was the development FROM that set up by the entity's associates, as the totem or the family tree.
So this information in so how it relates to South Oregon I feel very much could relate with Mt. Shasta.
Misskat has done some very interesting work using Google Earth to locate what she feels are giant Nazca line type petroglyphs. Misskat stated that she submitted her Google Earth pictures to professional archeologists, only to notice that further attempts to view this Nazca line type petroglyphs on GOOGLE EARTH were now "white washed" and as such much more difficult to see.
If MissKat is correct this is quite the situation. Google is a CIA start up boys and girls, so this would mean that "they" are in the know, and it would seem the only reason "they" would want to keep these types of glyphs secret would be because there are "folks", "people" and possibly "cities" still under this area.


I've contemplated the proximity of Bohemian Grove to Mt. Shasta and as such these folks living underground there. To view such visit my thread here. Bigfoot, Altantis and Bohemian Grove http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72540-Bigfoot-Atlantis-and-The-Bohemian-Grove






I give full credit to MissKat who provided this information on a thread here on Avalon, and yes this is the same MissKat who
provided the information in my initial post on this thread.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74180-Edgar-Cayce-630-2-Survivors-of-Mu-in-Oregon

[Dustin Naef]

Well I've been so busy with the holidays I haven't had much time to check in lately, but I did get an opportunity to finish up the three part video series I made about Mount Shasta's J.C. Brown mystery. I hope these videos offer people interested in Mount Shasta a glimpse into a side of it that they haven't seen before, or been exposed to. A few posts back I mentioned that I'd been collaborating with a friend and Remote Viewer John Vivanco, he's an author and researcher who's been using remote viewing to look into some of the mysteries around Mount Shasta with me.

In part three of the videos he joins me during our exploration of Castle Crags, and shares some of his insights into the mystery, and what he and his team have been able to discern using remote viewing.

In part three we'll investigate the mysterious Castle Crags petroglyphs which I strongly believe are treasure symbols (such as are found around Oak Island and in Arizona's Superstition Mountains) and also connected to the J.C. Brown mystery--and all of this is situated in a very remote wilderness and Sasquatch habitat with weird effigies scattered around in the forest, which few people outside some locals have ever seen. You cannot even find any pictures or film of the Castle Crags petroglyphs anywhere online, or elsewhere except a few old black and white photos in a book...so this is a first.

I'm taking a break from making videos until sometime next year, but I may be on some other shows coming up soon, and of course happy to answer any questions or hear about any theories or insights.

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[Whiskey_Mystic]

I've spent a lot of time visiting and living in Mt. Shasta. Never experienced anything out of the ordinary. Beautiful place, though. I might retire there someday.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thank you, Dustin, for sharing these videos with us! I had not heard of the J.C. Brown mystery; most interesting! :sherlock: What a pleasant experience to be there with you on the jaunt through the woods & see the actual signs of Bigfoot activity! They seem to be a very elusive creature, from what I've read. It has always been of interest to me learning about the giant bones that were discovered in the 1880's & early 1900's.....evidence seemed always to be destroyed. It is much appreciated that you would take the time to share with us! :waving:

[Dustin Naef]

Thank you, Dustin, for sharing these videos with us! I had not heard of the J.C. Brown mystery; most interesting! :sherlock: What a pleasant experience to be there with you on the jaunt through the woods & see the actual signs of Bigfoot activity! They seem to be a very elusive creature, from what I've read. It has always been of interest to me learning about the giant bones that were discovered in the 1880's & early 1900's.....evidence seemed always to be destroyed. It is much appreciated that you would take the time to share with us! :waving:

Thank you, it's funny I generally try to stay away from having anything to do with Bigfoot because it seems like such a contentious field, but you can't really get away from it when you go to certain places around Mount Shasta; namely Castle Crags, that's the only place I've ever heard them before, or seen some kind of signs indicating that they might be living there in the forests. Regrettably I've never seen one, only heard them scream and found unusual tracks. I've also noticed that there's a schism going on in the Bigfoot field that some people are saying they're inter-dimensional, rather than physical beings. I try to stay out of it, but everything I've seen of them tells me they're very real, and as odd as it sounds I think they might even guard or watch over certain places and scare people off if they get too close to something.

[Foxie Loxie]

I have kind of followed the Bigfoot story for a few years. It's so interesting. I remember reading twice about people having seen them descend from a UFO; one in the state of WA & one in the mountains of South Amer. Generally speaking, they seem to shy away from people, but are not agressive unless provoked. I recall that they also do "tree knocking" as a means of communication. It must have been weird to hear them scream! I don't worry about schisms, I just listen to what experiences others have had & compare notes in my head! The huge X made of trees was very impressive! Thanks again for sharing! :highfive: