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Daozen
30th October 2016, 22:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cLfMtYcYfE

This guy could barely co-ordinate himself. He went to a stem cell clinic in Panama, and was back to running up the stairs and coaching sports within 4 years.

I always had a negative opinion of stem cells, but now I realize that could've been big pharma propaganda. Since 2014, they've been able to cultivate stem cells using increasingly cheaper methods.

Just like a cancer cure, don't expect the MSM to be talking about it any time over the next 20 years.

On Avalon, we know that Vit C, Iodine, Magnesium etc can cure cancer and heart disease, but the MSM keep their mouths shut. Likewise, the nutritional technology to live til 130 years and older will probably come out through private industry. It'll be on Amazon, but not in the papers.

The interesting thig is, not everyone wants to extend their lives. Some people just want to experience this matrix, and exit the body at 70. I can see the wisdom in that.

AFAIC, living til 150 would be good, providing it's in a healthy body.

lucidity
31st October 2016, 01:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cLfMtYcYfE

This guy could barely co-ordinate himself. He went to a stem cell clinic in Panama, and was back to running up the stairs and coaching sports within 4 years.

I always had a negative opinion of stem cells, but now I realize that could've been big pharma propaganda. Since 2014, they've been able to cultivate stem cells using increasingly cheaper methods.

Just like a cancer cure, don't expect the MSM to be talking about it any time over the next 20 years.

On Avalon, we know that Vit C, Iodine, Magnesium etc can cure cancer and heart disease, but the MSM keep their mouths shut. Likewise, the nutritional technology to live til 130 years and older will probably come out through private industry. It'll be on Amazon, but not in the papers.

The interesting thig is, not everyone wants to extend their lives. Some people just want to experience this matrix, and exit the body at 70. I can see the wisdom in that.

AFAIC, living til 150 would be good, providing it's in a healthy body.

There's lots of stuff like this... where there exists _good_ evidence that X cures
some disease that would reduce or relieve suffering for millions.
But Big Pharma is making a profit from selling ineffective treatments...
hence... not a dickie-bird on the MSM.

For example... look up Boron and Arthritis and Dr Rex Newnham.
Boron is an _essential_ mineral. You need it for bone health. It's also required
for the immune system. We only get about 2 or 3 milligrams per day in Europe
because it's not abundant in European soils. There's no boron in the soil in Jamaica.
In Jamaica, even the dogs limp! 70% Arthritis rate in Jamaica, for all adults not
just the elderly ! What rate of arthritis in Israel ? 0.5% (a half of 1 percent)!
What rates of boron consumption in Israel ? 11 mg to 30 mg (dependent on region).
Arthritis rates through the continental USA vary from state to state according the
geological survey of boron deposition.

Has boron supplementation been shown to treat and reverse arthritis symptomatology ?
Yes, see the abundant literature on Rex Newnham.
See also this youtube video presentation by Dr Jorge Flechas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJp7SW1pY2I

He's basically saying 30mg of boron per day to stop your bones de-mineralising.
Boron is sold as borax, it's sold as a laundry detergent.

Someone should really point David Icke at this research. Seriously!
(For _his_ sake, and for the sake of all the people with arthritis in his audience)

Daozen
31st October 2016, 04:52
I tried Borax powder with mixed results. Don't know if I took too much or it was a dodgy brand. Instead I've been eating high boron foods, like nuts and raisins. I noticed my toothache has permanently dissapeared, and I've got more energy than normal...

lucidity
31st October 2016, 12:07
I tried Borax powder with mixed results. Don't know if I took too much or it was a dodgy brand. Instead I've been eating high boron foods, like nuts and raisins. I noticed my toothache has permanently dissapeared, and I've got more energy than normal...

There is actually abundant evidence of boron _reversing_ the painful symptoms and
awful inflamation and twisting of fingers and hands and feet etc. Look on youtube for it.
This stuff evidently works. And if you read the Rex Newnham stuff.. he's _demonstrated_
it works. I seem to remember that in his experiments he was feeding patients 100mg per
day for a period of weeks before bringing them down to lower doses when the pain and
inflammation started to go away. And that's after only a few weeks. To me, that suggests
either boron is toxic to the pathogens that cause arthritis or that the immune system
requires boron in order to build the appropriate anti-bodies for dealing with these pathogens.
But i digress...

The key detail i wanted to offer you when i started this post is this:

If you want to feel a sense of security about the source of your boron.
Search for "pharmaceutical grade borax" on ebay or amazon.
Or failing that, ask them to order it for you at your local pharmacy.
(It's actually the exact same stuff as is sold as _pure_ borax
as a washing detergent - there's no additional processing after mining it.
... but.. if you want to a sense of security about your borax, order it from
the pharmacy or order as 'pharmaceutical grade')

Boron supplements are only 3mg... it's a deficiency dose. And not sufficient.
Jorge Flechas is very explicit... you should be taking 30mg per day to prevent
bone de-mineralisation and osteoporosis / arthritis. This is the exposure
they have in several parts of Israel. In parts of Turkey, the water contains
30mg of boron per litre.. so you can imagine that those people are taking
around 60 to 120mg per day... without any concomitant problems.

The easiest way to do this is to make a 0.5% solution of borax.
A 0.5% solution means that ... in every 100 grams of water ... there is half a gram of borax.
There's 1000 grams of water in a litre ... So to make a 0.5% solution in a litre of water
you would need to add 5 grams of borax (per litre of water).

Once you have a 0.5% solution of borax... a regular 6 millilitre teaspoon .. will give
you 30mg of borax. Take it every day. Add a teaspoon of 0.5% borax to your morning
coffee or tea or fruitjuice, etc. It doesn't change the taste.

I think there's an english vs american difference in teaspoons.
I think english teaspoons are 6ml and american teaspoons are 5ml.
But in any case... you'll be taking 25mg or 30mg per day.. and that's fine.

TargeT
31st October 2016, 14:14
I always had a negative opinion of stem cells, but now I realize that could've been big pharma propaganda. Since 2014, they've been able to cultivate stem cells using increasingly cheaper methods.
.

Stem cells can be harvested from your skin, Stem cells are amazing and a part of the key to our future longevity and wellness... they are just "un-programmed cells" nothing bad there at all.

Daozen
31st October 2016, 15:24
I always had a negative opinion of stem cells, but now I realize that could've been big pharma propaganda. Since 2014, they've been able to cultivate stem cells using increasingly cheaper methods.
.

Stem cells can be harvested from your skin, Stem cells are amazing and a part of the key to our future longevity and wellness... they are just "un-programmed cells" nothing bad there at all.

I realized this recently... There are lots of methods out there. I'm still reading, as I know next to zeo.

All I know is:

- I'm not going to wait for the MSM to tell me when a breakthrough is made.
- I'm going to be wary of price gouging in the first 5-10 years of popularity. There will be clinics charging big $$$ for cheap processes. If you know where to start reading, please say.

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Lucidity, if you know a brand of Borax available in the UK, please link to it. I bought a local pharmaceutical brand here in Taiwan. Im not sure if it's pure, as I got shooting pains around my waist after a few days with it. I checked, and another guy online had the same problem. I used a quarter teaspoon for a few days in a row. Don't know if it's overuse, or the brand. Local brands in Taiwan can sometimes add poison to discourage home use. The bicarbonate of soda from the supermarket gave me sore throat, and the H202 contains Acetilnide (sic?). So I'll buy some from the UK... two of the main suppliers in the UK are suspicious of home use. Maybe Amazon is better.

Fairy Friend
31st October 2016, 15:47
Stem cells opened the door to lots of new ways to think. From curing diseases to organ regeneration. But it won't cure everything like type II diabetes. And there are lots of people who will try to make money off of it. James Thomson sold his company to the guy who owns Fugi films in Japan. $305,000,000.00. Thank goodness we swung to pluripotent adult stem cell instead of embryonic ones.

lucidity
31st October 2016, 19:06
Lucidity, if you know a brand of Borax available in the UK, please link to it. I bought a local pharmaceutical brand here in Taiwan. Im not sure if it's pure, as I got shooting pains around my waist after a few days with it. I checked, and another guy online had the same problem. I used a quarter teaspoon for a few days in a row. Don't know if it's overuse, or the brand. Local brands in Taiwan can sometimes add poison to discourage home use. The bicarbonate of soda from the supermarket gave me sore throat, and the H202 contains Acetilnide (sic?). So I'll buy some from the UK... two of the main suppliers in the UK are suspicious of home use. Maybe Amazon is better.

"Mule" is a famous american brand of borax. It is pure borax (99.9% borax)

Here is a link on ebay to 'Lab Grade 99.9 % Pure Borax'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Borax-Sodium-Tetraborate-Decahydrate-99-9-Pure-Lab-Grade-1KG-1000g-/321145555408?hash=item4ac5c449d0:g:zhYAAOSwv0tU4yWm

You said:

I used a quarter teaspoon for a few days in a row

I assume you mean that you took a 1/4 teaspoon of borax.
That's approximately a gram per day, 1000 mg... that's quite a hefty dose.
If i were you... I'd add 5 grams to a litre of water and take it at a rate
of a teaspoon per day. However, the choice is yours, of-course.

Basho
31st October 2016, 19:57
I'm a big baseball fan & there have been a handful of pitchers, Tanaka of the Yankees being one of them, that have successfully used stem cell therapy in lieu of tommy John surgery(ligament replacement).

The conspiracy theorist in me can't help to wonder if these alternative treatments are actively discouraged by the incumbent sports medicine practitioners. You would think not since there is so much $ invested in athletes but these sports medicine guys are probably making a killing with their surgeries & other standard procedures.

Cardillac
1st November 2016, 17:16
if my read sources are correct multiple sclerosis is not a neurological disease but a hardening of the arteries/veins in the neck-

"sclerosis" means "hardening"-

Larry

Daozen
1st November 2016, 17:27
I assume you mean that you took a 1/4 teaspoon of borax.
That's approximately a gram per day, 1000 mg... that's quite a hefty dose.
If i were you... I'd add 5 grams to 100 grams of water and take it at a rate
of a teaspoon per day. However, the choice is yours, of-course.

Maybe I took too much... I may have overdosed. I heard of 20 Mule team, thanks... Good that we're seriously studying longevity here now.

conk
2nd November 2016, 16:37
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

The Borax Conspiracy
How the Arthritis Cure has been stopped

Walter Last

You may not be able to imagine that borax, this humble insecticide and laundry detergent, has the potential of singlehandedly bringing down our entire economic system. But you do not need to worry, the danger has been recognized and the necessary steps are already being taken to defuse the situation. I will start with the basics and you will understand what I mean as the story unfolds.

grapevine
24th May 2025, 15:33
5 Foods That Can Regrow Stem Cells, STARVE CANCER & Burn Fat I Dr. William Li

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgzDdPvdxuU (25:11)
I've posted this new video from Dr Li here because it's the most recent thread, although it doesn't apply particularly to MS. I've been watching a lot of videos about stem cell therapy recently, and if I had the money/won the lottery I'd invest a lot of it in its research and use for all manner of therapies across sentient life forms. It seems such an obvious treatment to me, like giving yourself a blood transfusion of your own blood, ie no side effects or rejection issues, just brand new, healthy, life-giving cells. As is so often the case, our nutritional footprint plays a major role.


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