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3(C)+me
30th October 2016, 23:39
Paul Joseph Watson
My apologies to all the Coldplay lovers

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See Bill I can start a thread but this is going to be a rare event.
.........(smile)...........................

lucidity
31st October 2016, 01:47
excellent. No quibbles there.
I sincerely hope we see more of him. :)

Sueanne47
31st October 2016, 02:16
I'd like to sink simon cowell/kanye west/katie perry/rihanna/gaga or any other illuminati tripe ~ 6 miles down in the pacific...like nuclear waste, never to be seen again. :amen:

Verdilac
31st October 2016, 02:31
The moment I saw Kanye west singing mama I've just killed a song is a moment I could have done without seeing .

As for coldplay , no apologies needed at this end bro.

Oh no..... not coldplay again.

TrumanCash
31st October 2016, 06:28
Excellent video and analysis by Paul Joseph Watson!

As a songwriter who yearns for the return of creative, meaningful songs like those of the late 60s thru early 70s and also is moved by the music of Mozart that goes way beyond the five senses, I can certainly relate to the significant points that PJW makes. When I write a song I intentionally try to find new chord changes and sounds that I've never heard before and the challenge to write creative, meaningful lyrics that flow easily off the tongue and yet are synchronized flawlessly into the rhythm (while avoiding cliches) can be a great challenge.

The video is especially interesting to me because I am totally unaware of what today's pop music is like. At least until I watched this video. Seriously, I don't listen to modern music (or watch TV) and have no idea what it is like. I didn't know it was that bad. And it is. :facepalm:

Now I know why I don't listen to it! :thumbsdown:

thepainterdoug
31st October 2016, 06:53
S p o t o n

greybeard
31st October 2016, 08:52
As a bass guitarist having played in rock style bands since the 60s I have to agree with the original post.
Many of the female singers set a bad (in my opinion) set a bad example to young girls--soft porn sells records and influences greatly

However there is a lot of good musicians and music to be heard that does not even try to get into the charts.
Adele is an exception and there are many.

Things do evolve---the vocal range and voice quality seems to have improved in many.
Bass guitar playing has improved greatly --as has the quality and power of amplifiers.
Much and all as I loved 60s music it has evolved beyond 3 chords. Queen set a high bar.
I love Crowded House, they became less popular as their music got more complex
These band are not of this era but I am sure there are bands of the same caliber out there now.

Problem is that its very much a music industry --artists are disposable--they have to be the full package.
Roy Orbison would not have lasted now as he just stood there and sang.

Who in the charts right now will still pull in an audience in twenty years time, or even five?

Enjoy what turns you, lifts you, on leave the rest alone.

Chris

Bill Ryan
31st October 2016, 12:59
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Hilarious and profound. Always a good combination. :)

I received a credible, anonymous e-mail nearly three years ago which stated that the world's youth were being programmed by music, all carefully planned and strategically orchestrated at the very highest level. I had no problems believing it.

Ewan
31st October 2016, 13:29
Laughed at the splice of Freddie Mercury looking amused at the rendition by whomever.

Coldplay weren't always bad were they? There's a relatively early song of theirs called Clocks (about 2003 I think) which I liked very much and still do. I confess I'm not aware of any of their other songs though, and sounds as though that is just as well.

The earlier comment from Chris regarding setting a bad example to young girls was 100% spot on imo. Although Pink can hardly be held up as a counterpoint I always enjoyed her 'Stupid Girls' as a song that ripped that whole concept to shreds, despite the face she was capitalizing off it and some of her other songs are pretty much the opposite.

We all want plastic Barbie girls, on their knees. Erm, no, we don't.

In 1986 I was touring Australia (2 years) with a backpack and remember seeing a guy, meeting his girlfriend's parents, wearing a t-shirt that said something akin to "The Perfect Girl" and depicted thereon was a cartoon of a buxom nymph kneeling in front of a guy who was playing darts, his beer resting on her flattish head whilst she was obviously engaged in fellatio. If I'd have been the girls father I'd have probably punched him in the mouth and dragged my daughter back home for a series of lectures. (Likely having the opposite effect to intended :rollseyes: )

:focus:

Baby Steps
31st October 2016, 15:18
Hang on-this is a free market, the young download music according to what appeals to THEM, so as well as the trivialisation and dumbing down we see in the corporate music world we need to consider how the youth are thinking themselves.

As a 49 year old I remember the rebellion, defiance , dynamism, creativity and bottom up nature of the industry in years gone by. The corporate people struggled to control the cultural surges. As time goes on, you got artists signing huge multi album deals that basically mortgaged the first few against a gigantic promo budget. The corporate investors naturally controlled, sanitised content to protect their investment.

Now we are in a new world where so many make a recording career from virtually nothing, with you tube and self published albums. So it is not that the youth are challenging the status quo ( but are stuck and controlled).


Its something about THEIR mentality. Maybe a factor is that their parents are the rebel generation and that, to their offspring, is old hat.

Yet here we are in the throws of revolutionary paradigm shift.

For me, it is baffling and depressing when you see an artist so shallow, lacking in talent, and un creative, attracting so many of the youth. These fans appear to want to listen to the music because they want to be that person.

These youth, or some of them, ARE this paradigm shift.

Maybe music is not the medium that attracts them, not sure, but I do have great regard for them and what they will be manifesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHk5SWVO4p8

This , by 'the 1975' is liked by my nieces. Its good music. But I don't pick up on any passion, challenge or rebellion. I think these youth today see life as a struggle that they have to engage with and get through. It is tougher for them than previous generations. At the same time I find they are more receptive to alternative paradigm thinking than older people.

Maybe , for them, the Music is a comfortable place to escape from a tough life!


Hey now call it a split 'cause you know that you will
Oh you bite your friends like chocolate
You say, we'll go where nobody knows, with guns hidden under our petticoat
No we're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Now we run run away from the boys in the blue, and my car smells like chocolate
Hey now think about what to do, think about what to say, think about how to think
Pause it play, pause it play, pause it
Oh we'll go where nobody knows, with guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Yeah we're dressed in black from head to toe, we've got guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it. no we're never gunna' quit it no
Now you're never gunna' quit it, now you're never gunna' quit it, now you're never gunna' quit it
If you don't start smoking it, that's what she said
She said we're dressed in black, from head to toe, with guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Hey now we're building up speed as we're approaching the hill
Oh my hair smells like chocolate
Hey now you say you're gunna' quit it but you're never gunna' quit it
Gotta get it, gotta get it, gotta get it, gotta get it, go!
And play it cool
Oh and you said we'll go where nobody knows, with guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Yeah we're dressed in black, from head to toe, we've got guns hidden under our petticoats
We're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Well I think we better go, seriously better go
Said the feds are here you know
Seriously better go, oh oh, well I think we better go
Said the feds are here you know
Said Rebecca better know
Seriously better go
We'll go where nobody knows, with guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it, no we're never gunna' quit it no
Yeah we're dressed in black, head to toe, guns hidden under our petticoats
No we're never gunna' quit it. no we're never gunna' quit it no
No no no
Well I think we better go, seriously better go
Said the feds are here you know
Seriously better go, oh oh, well I think we better go
Said the feds are here you know
Said Rebecca better know
Seriously better go

Sueanne47
31st October 2016, 15:54
I think that these days we should be hearing something NEW! instrumental music could be improved. I remember when Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield came out..people loved it.

joeecho
31st October 2016, 16:16
The tentacles of the PTB extend well into music theory which does find it's way into popular music. What ever media finds it's way into the most minds and particularly the youth's mind one will find said tentacles.

3(C)+me
31st October 2016, 16:57
I childhood friend of mine told me she saw Madonna some time back she said she was great. She had dancers, a bunch of costume changes, lots if sexual acts (got have the lots of sex stuff right), knowing her she was either dressed as baphoment or danced with it. According to my friend she was wonderful.
You want to go and see her again with me I can get some tickets.
I told her you know she is a Satanist right?
Blank look on her face.
She doesn't really write her own songs right?
Silence.
Doesn't play any instrument well.
Silence
She has to have all those dancers and props and goings on stage cuz she has very little talent.
You could hear a pin drop.

Sueanne47
31st October 2016, 17:03
I didnt believe it when I saw an illuminati video on music that The Beach Boys had sold themselves to the devil..along with the Rolling Stones & the Beatles

3(C)+me
31st October 2016, 17:16
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greybeard
31st October 2016, 17:18
I didnt believe it when I saw an illuminati video on music that The Beach Boys had sold themselves to the devil..along with the Rolling Stones & the Beatles

I find that the Beatles sold their souls to the devil somewhat hard to believe Sueanne.
Cant say much about the others.

The Batles music too uplifting --the song writing superb.
George Harrison was as far as I can see a very spiritual person.

I can see why some one would want to devalue them in a negative and not truthful way.
Thats Illuminati strategy---defame the good.
Its easy to knock people via video on u tube or else where.
You cant fight back against that kind of accusation.

Chris

Ewan
31st October 2016, 17:21
Hang on-this is a free market, the young download music according to what appeals to THEM, so as well as the trivialisation and dumbing down we see in the corporate music world we need to consider how the youth are thinking themselves.

As a 49 year old I remember the rebellion, defiance , dynamism, creativity and bottom up nature of the industry in years gone by. The corporate people struggled to control the cultural surges. As time goes on, you got artists signing huge multi album deals that basically mortgaged the first few against a gigantic promo budget. The corporate investors naturally controlled, sanitised content to protect their investment.



Back in the 60's TPTB may have been genuinely horrified by music almost prompting a shift in conciousness. I would go out on a limb and say they put steps in place to make sure it would never happen again.

From the 40's its been known how to manipulate public thinking, (Edward Bernays), not a stretch to suggest the youth choose that music because it is almost all they ever hear, being forced upon them with few alternatives. Perhaps the appeal has been manufactured.

When you're 14 yrs old you will listen to what everyone is talking about. If they're all talking about Bob and Sally who produced a music video in their garage then great. But million dollar production values tend to grab the attention.

Then you can't ignore a side topic of education, and how the population seem to be getting 'dumbed down'. It may all be orchestrated, what resistance to the devious plans of the farmer do sheep and cattle make?

Edit to add: When I read my first sentence back then I had a strange feeling of recognition. I think I may have paraphrased something Bill Ryan said elsewhere.

Also, I know where your coming from Baby Steps. I remember thinking punk was ridiculously raucous anti-music. (I was about 21 when it first came to my attention). When I listened to more of it some was really quite good and all anti-establishment. We, as elders, do often criticise what younger generations do, assuming, perhaps arrogantly, that they don't understand and they haven't lived.

I just hope they get the chance too live and it is not to late.

Hervé
31st October 2016, 17:36
[...]
I received a credible, anonymous e-mail nearly three years ago which stated that the world's youth were being programmed by music, all carefully planned and strategically orchestrated at the very highest level. I had no problems believing it.
I suspect a likely direct correlation:


Empathy: Rescuing the oxygen of civilization from extinction (http://pro.psychcentral.com/empathy-the-oxygen-of-civilization/0016355.html)

Libby Simon, LSW, PsychCentral (http://pro.psychcentral.com/empathy-the-oxygen-of-civilization/0016355.html) Sun, 30 Oct 2016 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s17/354418/large/compassion.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s17/354418/full/compassion.jpg)


'Some people scarcely move when touched. While some are moved with scarce a touch'- Source Unknown "What, Me Care? Young are Less Empathetic.".1 Empathy, long considered innate, has been unexpectedly challenged by a U.S. study led by Dr. Sara H. Konrath and published online in Personality and Social Psychology Review. In this self-reported study of 14,000 students, the researchers found empathy levels have declined over the past 30 years.

On the other side of the same coin, another self-reported study carried out by psychologists, Jean M. Twenge with W. Keith Campbell, reported narcissism, a psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation and a lack of empathy, has reached new heights. Their book, "The Narcissism Epidemic" (2009), explores the rise of narcissism in American culture.2 In a TV interview on the Meredith Vieria Show, Twenge describes the U.S. condition as "suffering from an epidemic of narcissism."3

In addition, drawing on a database of more than 75,000 assessments from 2011-2013, a global sample was created by EQ, an organization dedicated to increasing emotional intelligence around the world. The report, "The State of the Heart," also noted emotional intelligence that encompasses empathy and compassion in young people is declining in comparison with people over 40 years of age. 4

What makes these studies particularly relevant in today's world is their association with known character traits expressed, ranging from schoolyard bullying to heinous violence. The problem is widespread among children and youth and, too often, comes with serious consequences.

In Canada, for example, StatsCan reports that at least one in three adolescent students have reported being bullied; 47% of Canadian parents report having a child victim of bullying; and any participation in bullying increases risk of suicidal ideas in youth.5

Amanda Todd, who committed suicide by hanging herself in October, 2012, left flash cards to tell of her experience.6 It went viral after her death raising worldwide attention.

These findings are very disturbing as they have far-reaching negative consequences. With media screaming news daily of horrific violence exploding in hot spots around the world on any given day, one word comes to mind - EMPATHY. This word that underlies the basis of civilization needs to be rescued from extinction.

So what do we know about empathy? What is undermining its growth and what can be done to reverse this trend?

[...]

Full article: http://pro.psychcentral.com/empathy-the-oxygen-of-civilization/0016355.html?all=1

Related:
Equality, empathy and psychopathy (https://www.sott.net/article/249516-Equality-empathy-and-psychopathy)
Psychopaths are Destroying our World (VIDEO) (https://www.sott.net/article/322019-Psychopaths-are-Destroying-our-World-VIDEO#)
Empathy: How do children learn it? (https://www.sott.net/article/315108-Empathy-How-do-children-learn-it)
Practical ways to boost empathy (https://www.sott.net/article/328514-Practical-ways-to-boost-empathy)

Ewan
31st October 2016, 17:48
Quickly off-topic. I have a 12 yr old with more than his share of empathy. Too much i'd venture for one so young. I think he got his brothers, who as yet has none at 6 yrs old. :)

As that is an American study I would be very interested in seeing similar studies from other countries. I suspect it is another area that America leads the world in.

blackdog
31st October 2016, 17:48
Paul Joseph Watson
My apologies to all the Coldplay lovers

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I agree, but it is relatively old news, although it has been getting worse and worse. I listen mostly to independent music now, but my favorites are still older bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. They dont have groups like this as major mainstream acts anymore. There are some great indie bands, but I think there would be many more if they could benefit from major record company money and promotion.

I disagree with this guy regarding television shows. I think plot lines have become much more complicated, for sure, but sometimes it is to a ridiculous extent. I think they are reaching deeper to create something new, and the shows get wilder and wackier. It is entertainment for entertainment's sake. There is no real message behind any of it. It is soulless. It's not art.

I tried to watch Mr. Robot because the main character is a hacker who hates corporations and the state of the world, much like a conspiracy theorist. Yet, this element of the show dies out quickly, and we end up watching a show about this guy's everyday life and relationships, just like every other show out there.

And movies are awful, as well. Every other movie is one of these comic book stories or a remake of an older movie. There are very few original stories.

I think the state of the entertainment industry is a good example of the failure of capitalism to produce the best possible product through competition. Everything is rigged from the top, just like the political world.

greybeard
31st October 2016, 17:52
Good will out.
I have great faith in the youth.

Chris

Ewan
31st October 2016, 17:56
The anger they're going to feel if they see through it all.

Akasha
31st October 2016, 18:16
Musical Stockholme syndrome - Stock, Aitkin and Waterman syndrome?

Loved the Zappa footage @7min's ish - rip.

Enola
31st October 2016, 23:18
Coldplay is like the boring person's Radiohead.

3(C)+me
1st November 2016, 00:33
I didnt believe it when I saw an illuminati video on music that The Beach Boys had sold themselves to the devil..along with the Rolling Stones & the Beatles

I find that the Beatles sold their souls to the devil somewhat hard to believe Sueanne.
Cant say much about the others.

Chris

Micheal Tsarion has some stuff on Paul and John of the Beatles. Just like U2 they did some great early work, got big and was probably made an offer they could not refuse, and they didn't. When I see Bono in congress spouting some crap about I can't remember what, that was then I knew and U2 will probably not make anymore great music, they don't have to but they will be rolled out when they are needed.
But Edge will get his mansion in Malibu, his reward.
But he probably had some headaches and sleepless nights before it was all over.

I do have Coldplay's early albums and they are quite good actually not lately it has just got sappy and when he joined Beyoncé well that was when I said I am done.
I think connecting ColdPlay with Radiohead is like asking for trouble.
They are similar in one way, they are both from England, that's it.

I actually like the first season of Mr Robot the lead guy does remind me of some people I have known. It gets a slow in the middle but some of the dialog is really great writing in my opinion.

However, having said all that, I can say I have been thrilled while watching certain concerts within the last five years. No props, dancers, flames coming out of the sky, usually it just some band coming out and playing great music that is created by the members not some record company exec that has an agenda.
I can still be thrilled, for that I am grateful.

Just don't get me started on Jay-z and Co.

blackdog
1st November 2016, 00:38
Coldplay is like the boring person's Radiohead.

Bingo. lol. Well said.

Once in a while I will hear one of their songs in a certain context and think it could be decent. Then I try to listen to it on my own, and I am quickly bored to the point that I change the song. It is good for music newcomers, I suppose, but there should be some balance out there with other great bands also getting recognition.

Verdilac
1st November 2016, 00:51
Coldplay is like the boring person's Radiohead.

I don't think you would get coldplay writing or performing a song like this :waving:

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blackdog
1st November 2016, 00:56
[QUOTE=greybeard;1109705]I actually like the first season of Mr Robot the lead guy does remind me of some people I have known. It gets a slow in the middle but some of the dialog is really great writing in my opinion.

I only watched the first four epidsoes and then stopped, so maybe it got better. I liked the first episode and a half. It's just all entertainment, though. They arent going to tell you to stop watching the show and start protesting corporations and the big banks out in the streets. They are going to try to keep you interested for as long as possible, and then their job is done. No great message will be transmitted. No art will be made. Part of me thinks they make shows like this to keep those who are semi-interested in conspiracy from looking any further. This will be enough for them. They'll see that other people are aware of the situation, so something is probably being done about it. They can continue with their daily lives without thinking much more about it.

All that being said, TV and movies have improved dramatically in some ways. I dont want to sound too negative. lol. There was a lot of crap back in the 80s, too, which was a great decade for movies, and some remakes have improved on the originals.

3(C)+me
1st November 2016, 00:59
The subject: How to fight terrorism.
Bono appeared in Washington on April 12th, where he told senators, “Don’t laugh. I think comedy should be deployed. It’s like, you speak violence, you speak their language. But you laugh at them, when they’re goose-stepping down the street, and it takes away their power. So, I’m suggesting that the Senate send in Amy Schumer, and Chris Rock, and Sacha Baron Cohen, thank you”


I kid you not.

3(C)+me
1st November 2016, 01:09
[QUOTE=greybeard;1109705]I actually like the first season of Mr Robot the lead guy does remind me of some people I have known. It gets a slow in the middle but some of the dialog is really great writing in my opinion.

I only watched the first four epidsoes and then stopped, so maybe it got better. I liked the first episode and a half. It's just all entertainment, though. They arent going to tell you to stop watching the show and start protesting corporations and the big banks out in the streets. They are going to try to keep you interested for as long as possible, and then their job is done. No great message will be transmitted. No art will be made. Part of me thinks they make shows like this to keep those who are semi-interested in conspiracy from looking any further. This will be enough for them. They'll see that other people are aware of the situation, so something is probably being done about it. They can continue with their daily lives without thinking much more about it.

All that being said, TV and movies have improved dramatically in some ways. I dont want to sound too negative. lol. There was a lot of crap back in the 80s, too, which was a great decade for movies, and some remakes have improved on the originals.


I can see why you would say that, and they must start addressing this stuff because it is out their and they probably want to break into this Market of conspiracy and all the things the unemployed youth are mulling over. So they may want a piece of the pie.

There's a scene at close to the end of the season where he is came back to see his assigned shrink and his dialog is heartbreaking.

Let's see if all goes into some really weird unbelievable stuff with a lot of violence and action to keep people interested. I don't watch much Tv but I have to say the actor who plays the lead role is really good, I do love watching good actors at work.

Ivanhoe
1st November 2016, 16:39
Wow,... Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Beatles, Moody Blues, CS&N, The Who, Beach Boys, Joni ... and I could go on.
Good music, inventive. Experimental.
Mostly based on a basic 3 chord structure with a bridge and a lead riff but somehow each song was inventive, even inspirational.
New music today sucks for the most part,.. but then I'm an old fart and sorta set in my ways. LOL

Enola
1st November 2016, 22:25
Coldplay is like the boring person's Radiohead.

I don't think you would get coldplay writing or performing a song like this :waving:

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My personal theory is that Thom Yorke is some kind of hybrid alien. But his soul seems very high level and he just comes across as very evolved. He's channeling some very high spiritual energies with his voice. Comparable with no one as a singer.

greybeard
1st November 2016, 22:34
Thing is that bands had individual styles sounds in the 60s-70s
You could tell who it was from the first few bars.
Even though it was mainly three or four chords---the rhythmic paten was innovative.

Spencer Davis Group with young Stevie Winwood--The Kinks-The Hollies--the Beatles--all different and recognizable instantly
Then there was Cream--a totally different, dynamic sound, built around the bass playing of Jack Bruce--he had a great singing style--not easy when playing the bass like that.

So where are we now?

Chris

Enola
1st November 2016, 22:34
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Hmm, that guy is a bit intense. He looks like someone who's learned to look people straight in the eye when he's lying.

Sueanne47
1st November 2016, 23:19
Led Zeppelin Stairway to heaven is laced with satanic backward messages, and satanic lyrics in the song. Shame, I love it :

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The Eagles :

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Fleetwood Mac :

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The Beach Boys :

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The Beatles & The Rolling Stones :

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TrumanCash
2nd November 2016, 02:51
I love "Stairway to Heaven", "Hotel California", "War Pigs" (Black Sabbath) and other great music from the late 60s thru early 70s. A very creative time! (Mozart is my favorite composer, btw)

Of course, some chrinos (christians in name only) would like you to believe it's all Satanic and so you should donate to their churche$. No thanks. I've already been labeled a "blasphemer" and "devil worshipper" by talking--yes, just talking--about the concept of past lives!

I've heard this crap for most of life as a musician. It is absolute chrino mind control BS. I have written songs that just came to me easily and much of what I have written took a lot of work back in seventies when I was recording my first album. So what!

And I am quite certain you could play many songs backwards and you would eventually find something that sounds somewhat like the word "satan". Oh, Puleeeeze. I was once approached by a programmed chrino in Aspen, Colorado while playing "Stairway to Heaven" in the town square. He said if I played it backwards it said something about satan, blah, blah, blah. I told him I played it forwards, not backwards. Well, I later listened to it backwards and it just sounds like noise to me. Go figger.

"Stairway to Heaven" is a very beautiful song about living in harmony with nature, greed of man, etc.

No one (including evil spirits) ever came to me or anybody else for that matter and said "Hey, we can make you rich and famous if you play satanic music". That is pure BS because you have to have the talent and artistic ability and poetic sensibilities to paint a picture with sound and lyrics and do it well enough that people actually want to listen to you. I can do it and have actually written my own stairway-to-heaven type of ballad about my own past lives. I guess I'm just evil. :evil: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..... (he said with an evil laugh!)

Sueanne47
2nd November 2016, 09:03
I have the CD's of led zeppelin stairway to heaven, bon jovi, beach boys, and I love these songs...I dont want to throw them away! if TrumanCash says its okay...that's alright with me, I'm fed up with this devil crap.

I also love Mozart! especially this part : Mozart piano concerto No. 20 in D minor (starts at 14.23)

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I also adore this one, 1812 Overture Leonard Bernstein :

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greybeard
2nd November 2016, 09:40
Yes Sue
people find what they look for.
There was the expression "Reds under the bed"
Charlie Chaplin for example was ostracized for being a communist---was he though?
Each generation seems to have its own enemy that must be searched out and destroyed.
The TPTB love that--fear keeps one controllable.
They spread rumors without any real foundation to discredit that which is good.

Its what you personally get from the music that counts.
Trust yourself --no one else--no one knows you better.

If you feel lifted after listening --thats good--if you feel low then thats not worth listening to.
Those who have genuine talent, have no need of help from any source.

Its so easy to knock success.

I agree totally with TrumanCash

Chris

Baby Steps
2nd November 2016, 09:41
We are Human, in a dualistic reality, our music and artistic expression inherently includes our dark side. Running away from it is unhealthy, better to integrate and move on. I am sure the Led Zep guys explored Crowley etc, it was probably just checking things out. They are not evil people. A creative imagination is a diverse spectrum. I wonder what the young think of this???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e2fJfiddx4

3(C)+me
3rd November 2016, 20:41
Bono wins one of Glamour's 'Women of the Year' awards

The singer is predominantly being recognised for his work on the Poverty is Sexist campaign

Now he is a women.

Talk about gender confusion.


Oh I need some relief from all this heaviness.

I love the Kinks,
that's the ticket

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Feeling better.


Note: Anything even remotely connected to music is not off topic.