DNA results: the Elongated Paracas Skulls

[mojo]

Where getting close people! Real evidence but makes me wonder why the government is quiet they must know already especially the Vatican and other Countries. Wouldn't it be amazing if the DNA from Bigfoot is a match with the elongated Paracas skulls? Marzulli shares that the sequencing of the skulls from a collection points to a Middleastern origin coming from a region of Syria and Mesopotamia leading all the way to Peru.

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The elongated skulls of Paracas in Peru caused a stir in 2014 when a geneticist that carried out preliminary DNA testing reported that they have mitochondrial DNA “with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far”. Now a second round of DNA testing has been completed and the results are just as controversial – the skulls tested, which date back as far as 2,000 years, were shown to have European and Middle Eastern Origin. These surprising results change the known history about how the Americas were populated. In this interview L.A. Marzulli explains how the tests were carried out and shares his theory about what the results really mean.

[transiten]

I have a poster with Paracas handknitted tissue that I payed attention to while dusting yesterday. I haven't noticed it in a very long time and now this! Had no idea they had elongated skulls!

Ok, 20 minutes later they mention Paracas artifacts on Swedish radio...SYNCHRONICITY at it's best.

[Cardillac]

now delve into anthopologist's Lloyd Pye's "Starchild Skull" for another alternative-

Larry

[Cidersomerset]

Brien Foerster: Mystery of the Elongated Skulls & DNA Tests FULL LECTURE - Origins Conference

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Published on 16 Jan 2016


Get tickets for the Origins Conference, London on November 12th 2016 here:
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Filmed at the Origins Conference, London 2014 live via skype from Peru.
Cranial deformation was a world wide phenomenon amongst diverse people
from as recently as the 20th century to as far back as 4000 BC and earlier.
What these cultures had in common was the belief that by deforming a noble
child's skull, they would be more intelligent and attractive that commoners.
Also, it was believed this skull shape was what the Ancestors looked like.
Some of the skulls, however, especially those of the coastal area of Paracas
Peru which are at least 2000 years old, suggest something more. Many appear
to be naturally elongated, as if they were born that way; having cranium volume
as much as 25 percent larger than ours, as well as many physically characteristics
not known in Homo sapiens humans.Could a race of people have lived in the distant
past that were incredibly intelligent, and were in fact the Megalithic builders of
South America? Brien shared results from DNA testing that has caused much
controversy.

After completing an Honours Bachelor Of Science degree, Brien took up traditional
wood carving and sculpture at the age of 25. In 1995 he moved to Maui, Hawaii, a
nd was hired as assistant project manager for the building of the 62 foot double
hull sailing canoe (ancestor of the modern day catamaran) Mo'okiha O Pi'ilani (Sacred
Lizard That Pierces The Heavens.) Peru became his next major area of interest, where
he has been researching the elongated skull phenomenon and the pre-Inca megalithic
sites for a decade. Brien is a regular on History Channel's Ancient Aliens and leads
annual tours to South America with Megalithomania. Brien has been made the cultural
ambassador for the municipality of Paracas, with a mandate to expand the global
awareness of the 10,000 years of human habitation of the area. He has written several
books on ancient Peru and the Pacific & co-authored with David H Childress.
http://www.brienfoerster.com
Origins Conference: http://www.andrewcollins.com
http://www.megalithomania.co.uk

[Hervé]

New DNA Testing on 2,000-Year-Old Elongated Paracas Skulls Changes Known History (http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/breaking-new-dna-testing-2000-year-old-elongated-paracas-skulls-changes-020914?nopaging=1)


By April Holloway (https://plus.google.com/111732353779175483777/posts) 23 July, 2016 - 18:48


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A Paracas elongated skull and an artist’s impression based on a digital reconstruction. Credit: Marcia Moore (https://www.facebook.com/TheArtOfMarciaKMoore) / Ciamar Studio (http://www.marciakmoore.com/elongated-skulls.html)

The elongated skulls of Paracas in Peru caused a stir in 2014 when a geneticist that carried out preliminary DNA testing (http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/initial-dna-analysis-paracas-elongated-skull-released-incredible?nopaging=1) reported that they have mitochondrial DNA “with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far”. Now a second round of DNA testing has been completed and the results are just as controversial – the skulls tested, which date back as far as 2,000 years, were shown to have European and Middle Eastern Origin. These surprising results change the known history about how the Americas were populated.

Paracas is a desert peninsula located within Pisco Province on the south coast of Peru. It is here where Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928 – a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world. These have come to be known as the ‘Paracas skulls (http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-americas-opinion-guest-authors/elongated-human-skulls-peru-possible-evidence-lost)’. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, some of which date back around 3,000 years.


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Elongated skulls on display at Museo Regional de Ica in the city of Ica in Peru (public domain (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ParacasSkullsIcaMuseum.jpg))

Strange Features of the Paracas Skulls
It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time. It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull.

In a recent interview with Ancient Origins, author and researcher LA Marzulli describes how some of the Paracas skulls are different to ordinary human skulls:
“There is a possibility that it might have been cradle headboarded, but the reason why I don’t think so is because the position of the foramen magnum is back towards the rear of the skull. A normal foramen magnum would be closer to the jaw line…”


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LA Marzulli points to the position of the foramen magnum in a Paracas skull which is also the point at which they drilled in order to extract bone powder for DNA testing.

Marzulli explained that an archaeologist has written a paper about his study of the position of the foramen magnum in over 1000 skulls. “He states that the Paracas skulls, the position of the foramen magnum is completely different than a normal human being, it is also smaller, which lends itself to our theory that this is not cradle headboarding, this is genetic.”

In addition, Marzulli described how some of the Paracas skulls have a very pronounced zygomatic arch (cheek bone), different eye sockets and no sagittal suture, which is a connective tissue joint between the two parietal bones of the skull.


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The pronounced cheek bones can be seen in artist Marcia Moore’s interpretation of how the Paracas people looked based on a digital reconstruction from the skulls. Marcia Moore (https://www.facebook.com/TheArtOfMarciaKMoore) / Ciamar Studio (http://www.marciakmoore.com/elongated-skulls.html)

In a normal human skull, there should be a suture which goes from the frontal plate … clear over the dome of the skull separating the parietal plates - the two separate plates – and connecting with the occipital plate in the rear,” said Marzulli. “We see many skulls in Paracas that are completely devoid of a sagittal suture.
There is a disease known as craniosynostosis, which results in the fusing together of the two parietal plates, however, Marzulli said there is no evidence of this disease in the Paracas skulls.


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The sagittal suture, highlighted in red, separates the two parietal plates (public domain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittal_suture#/media/File:Sobo_1909_46_-_sagittal_suture.png))



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LA Marzulli shows the top of one of the Paracas skulls, which has no sagittal suture.

DNA Testing
The late Sr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the Museo Arqueologico Paracas, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from three of the elongated skulls for DNA testing, including one infant. Another sample was obtained from a Peruvian skull that had been in the US for 75 years. One of the skulls was dated to around 2,000 years old, while another was 800 years old.
The samples consisted of hair and bone powder, which was extracted by drilling deeply into the foramen magnum. This process, Marzulli explained, is to reduce the risk of contamination. In addition, full protective clothing was worn.

The samples were then sent to three separate labs for testing – one in Canada, and two in the United States. The geneticists were only told that the samples came from an ancient mummy, so as not to create any preconceived ideas.


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LA Marzulli holding up a replica of one of the Paracas skulls that was tested

Surprising Results
From the samples, only the mitochondrial DNA (DNA from the mother’s side) could be extracted. Out of four hair samples, one of them couldn’t be sequences. The remaining three hair samples all showed a Haplogroup (genetic population group) of H2A, which is found most frequently in Eastern Europe, and at a low frequency in Western Europe. The bone powder from the most elongated skull tested came back as T2B, which originates in Mesopotamia and what is now Syria, essentially the heart of the fertile crescent. “It rewrites history as we know it,” said Marzulli.

“If these results hold,” writes Brien Foerster on his website Hidden Inca Tours (https://hiddenincatours.com/initial-dna-results-testing-peruvian-elongated-skulls-2016/), “the history of the migration of people to the Americas is far more complex than we have been told previously.”

If these results are confirmed through further tests, it means that peoples from Europe and the Middle East migrated to the Americas long before it is conventionally believed.

Marzulli said that mainstream academics will probably attack these results by pointing to the fact that he is not a scientist, but he urges any skeptic to replicate the study. “Attack the evidence folks. Go down and get your own samples, pay for a DNA lab and then come back to me with your science… do some science like we’ve done,” he said. The full lab reports of the DNA tests are available in LA Marzulli’s book Nephilim Hybrids (http://www.lamarzulli.net/nephilim-hybrids.php).

The results are also consistent with the fact that many of the Paracas skulls still contain traces of red hair, a color that is not natively found in South America, but originates in the Middle East and Europe.

“No academics as far as we can tell can explain why some of the skulls that still have hair are red or even blonde,” writes Brien Foerster, “the idea that this is from time or bleaching has NOW been disproven by 2 hair experts. For the ancient Paracas people, at least, they had blonde to reddish hair that is 30% thinner than NATIVE American hair. It is GENETIC!”


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A Paracas skull with its red hair. Credit: Brien Foerster

Extra-terrestrial Hypothesis
Due to the unusual shape and features of the Paracas skulls, there has long been speculation that they are extra-terrestrial in origin, and many have hoped that DNA testing would prove that to be the case.

“As regards an “alien” component or ancestry to the skulls, we may never know,” writes Brien Foerster. “The DNA testing programs can only compare sample DNA with those that are known, and those are held in a huge database called Gentech in the US. Further testing with cooperation from Peruvian archaeologists and the Ministry of Culture are now ongoing.”

Nevertheless, LA Marzulli explained that the DNA results fit perfectly with the hypothesis he has held since before any testing was undertaken. That is that the Paracas people are the Nephilim. The Nephilim, according to ancient Biblical texts, are the offspring of the Fallen Angels and the women of earth, resulting in a hybrid entity, and they said to be based in the area of the Levant, the same place that the Paracas DNA traces to.

Whether or not this hypothesis is correct, the results of the DNA tests are dramatic and history changing and further testing may help to unravel the complex history of the Paracas people.

Next Steps
LA Marzulli and colleagues have plans for further testing and are currently working with Peruvian and American archaeologists. They have verbal permission from the head archaeologist of a Peruvian Museum to take more samples. These will then be presented to the Ministry of Culture for final consent before the samples are taking to US labs for testing. This process is expected to take at least a couple of years to complete.

[Cidersomerset]

Funny this thread popped up again I was watching LA Marzulli on Freeman
and I just found it.....

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Published on 24 Dec 2016

What evidence suggests that aliens were on planet Earth long ago? The Watchers, the
Nephilim, the Neteru, throughout history we find references to the "gods" that left the
people wide-eyed in awe. Best selling author of The Nephilim Trilogy, L.A. Marzulli, is
On the Trail of the Nephilim. Biblical prophecies, occult and esoteric sites, the rise of
Lucifer and the mark of the beast. Was 9/11 a Satanic ritual to invoke inter-dimensional
entities? Who is programming the dark hero, taking over the Temple Mount, bringing
World War 3? Israel? The Vatican? Or something much darker? http://freemantv.com/

[mojo]

..love that you guys brought the topic back... intriguing to think what happened to them, are they still around?

[norman]

... intriguing to think what happened to them, are they still around?



Naah! we just wear these old Catholic head adornments for the hell of it nowadays..................

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[shaberon]

As a comparison, here's a fairly thorough study on genetics of the Urumqi mummies:

http://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-015-0237-5#B23

I noticed that they rejected multiple samples for *possible* contamination, and hardly any of the haplogroups are delineated to the third level. If the South American finds are as represented, it would certainly benefit from analysis on that level. Even the Denisovan Wiki page tells me that a 400,000 year old leg from Spain is more Denisovan than Neanderthal, and there weren't "supposed" to be Europeans in China 4,000 years ago. Standard definitions will change when given something solid enough to go on.

[mojo]

Exciting new research... WE can only imagine what might be done with a complete DNA profile from hybrid or non-human bipeds?

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[justntime2learn]

I just took a quick look, however didn't see the post I thought you had made about the possibility of alien DNA being discovered through ancestry.

Based upon the very few things I know I find it impossible to believe some sort of alien DNA hasn't already been discovered let alone hybrid DNA. Not the type of thing that makes it to the front page of MSM.

It's coming Mojo and I can't wait!

Fact seems to be slower than Fiction, but we know what happened in the race between The Tortoise and the Hare.

[CurEus]

I have been waiting patiently for this for YEARS!!!

As it relates to DNA testing the "human genome" itself has been pretty much tested to very high degree of accuracy.
That accuracy is predicated upon a few things

1. What is tested
2. What is actually IN the system.

It branches off to include Neanderthal, some Denisovian an other Hominids and some "unusual" offshoots such as Homo Florensis ( Hobbits)

A few points to consider.
As robust as DNA testing is it really is in its' infancy as a science
Things that do not meet current scientific dogma are SPECIFICALLY NOT included in commonly accessible databases ( Melba Ketchum's work with Sasquatch comes to mind)

We could or even may very likely share something in common with the highly odd Paracas people or very very little. Folklore and oral histories suggest we could reproduce together although it was very much frowned upon by the Paracas elites.

Recalling Elongated skulls were an ELITE indicative of the ruling class. They looked VERY different from the local peoples. Although it is reported they had poor reproductive capabilities as time progressed and the world changed.

Depending on what they are testing and from what era a lot of interesting things may come to light. I expect they have some "excursively" Middle Eastern and Celtic DNA.

Now lets go sequence a giant!!!!!! If we can find one......

[Did You See Them]

I wouldn't be surprised to find that "Alien" dna is so embedded into homo sapiens and from so long ago that we cant distinguish it as being of "alien" input.

[Cardillac]

this kind of stuff fascinates me to no end- before I started studying music I was toying with the idea of studying (ancient) history as I wanted to become an archeologist (if you can believe THAT one!) :-)))

most people probably still believe the ancient busts of Nofertiti with her elongated skull head dresses were depictions of head 'fashion' at the time and not a practical hat for her elongated skull- obviously 'girlfriend' had a hellova lot of other-worldly DNA (and I'm sure all of us have at least a smattering of it)-

a former Swiss co-worker of mine has, certainly for our time, a rather extended skull in the style of Nofertiti-

stay well all-

Larry :-)

[mojo]

Hi Larry it is exciting times... Maybe the Smithsonian has the DNA profile from the giant skeletons already? They should open up about their collection. Could there be similar DNA to the giant, elongated skull types and human? Or perhaps the elongated and giant have similar traits shared? DNA can unlock the questions but also a double edged sword because we know that there 50% integration with human/other chimera experiments actually happening and maybe their goal is to bring these separate species back?

[Cardillac]

@mojo

"Maybe the Smithsonian has the DNA profile from the giant skeletons already?" we can be sure of it- but the Smithsonian will never be "talkative," sadly...

unless a miracle happens...

Larry

[Cardillac]

@mojo

we all know the Smithsonian is sitting on very valuable history let alone the s''t Vatican; both institutions have 'restricted access' areas; WHY?- what do they have to hide?- obviously a rhetorical question: the true origins of our species/history; what else could it possibly be?

be well!

Larry

[Justplain]

If one looks at the underground towns that smatter across Anatolia and the Levant, and one looks at the geological aging of these artifacts, one can conclude that these settlements are millions of years old. There are sled tracks in the stone, in the same region, that bear a similar age. There are 80ft stone walls in the Urals, where hills have had their tops cut off, that bear a similar age, too. These Paracus bones appear to be descendents from this ancient ancestry, not surprisingly. Those ancients had high tech and could cross oceans, obviously. This research hopefully will help to blow the lid off the current human origins myth that quackademics spout.

Megalithic structures point to civilizations dating back over possibly millions of years:

http://earthbeforeflood.com/who_and_when_constructed_underwater_underground_terrestrial_megalithic_complex.html

Giant megaliths of the Ural Mountains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFX_5fAEbc

[mojo]

the Smithsonian is sitting on very valuable history let alone the s''t Vatican; both institutions have 'restricted access' areas; WHY?

Right on... In the thread discussion we didnt really tie in the Vatican yet but there is rumor their vaults hold unique skulls and whom know what else??? For a religion do be doing experiments on Mt Graham with LUCIFER scope and UFOs appearing over their powerful laser pointing up on MT Graham they are doing more than being a religious sect with interests in archaeology & astronomy and of course hiding the truth from the World.

I was just thinking of the Atacama humanoid that Dr Greer tried to collect DNA to show it was an alien body. Strange how Greer overlooked the evidence of these elongated skulls?

PS: ...going to make an hypothesis that the Bigfoot is related by DNA to these other bipedal cryptids, either the giant genome or traits from the elongated skulls. Hopefully some new evidence of bigfoot hair samples or other sample will fill in the blanks.

[Cardillac]

@mojo

I just think we all need to look very carefully into the research of anthropologist Lloyd Pye ("The Starchild Skull") let alone the independent research of geneticist Dr. Melba Ketchum's research into BigFoot/Sasquatch (let alone the Yetis among others)- both researchers' info dove-tails in many respects-

please stay well mojo and all readers-

Larry

[Star Tsar]

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Brien Foerster | DNA Testing Of The Paracas Skulls

Streamed & Published 10th January 2018

Brien updates us on his tireless work & The upcoming DNA test results of The Elongated Skulls of Paracas Peru.

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[mojo]

results...
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[Bill Ryan]

results...
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We don't have the DNA results yet! That's the same video as in post #1.

We do have the preliminary finding that the origins appear to be from Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, the Levant (a name for the Eastern Mediterranean) and the Caucasus. (That alone is interesting. The ancestry isn't from the Americas.)

But it's a very good summary intro for anyone who doesn't know much about this important research. Recommended. :thumbsup:

[ExomatrixTV]

DNA Results Could Rewrite History 2018!

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[Star Tsar]

Results are in!


Via Brien Foerster

FINALLY: DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru!

Published 5th January 2018

After 5 years of waiting the Paracas Elongated Skulls results are in!

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[mojo]

Thank you for sharing that update Star Tsar. Surprising to hear the Caucasus Mountains, is the originating area of the elongated skulls. What happened back in time that humans in the Caucasus made contact with another race that created larger eyes and elongated skulls and did bigfoot come in to being at the same time? I thought the results would tell us that an unknown genome was found but instead only creates more mysteries surrounding a region in west Asia. How does Egypt's royalty fit in with the elongated skull of King Tut and family? Are there any living elongated skulls today? Why is there so much similarity in the description to bigfoot's skull shape?

[Jayke]

Fascinating! Thanks Star Tsar. Brian Foersters migration route conclusions bring to mind a video by Robert Sepehr—about the pre-Maori indigenous inhabitants of New Zealand—A fair-haired, light skinned people who claim to have originally been from Persia but fled after a Great War broke out several thousand years ago.

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Brian Foersters upcoming book on the results should make for a thrilling read!

[Bill Ryan]

Why is there so much similarity in the description to bigfoot's skull shape?

Actually, I suspect there's isn't really any similarity: it seems that Bigfoot has brow-ridges and a cranial crest (both at least to some extent), two major features absent from the elongated skulls.

[ghostrider]

It's so mysterious , yet so cool ... I love ancient history/science ...

[mojo]

it seems that Bigfoot has brow-ridges and a cranial crest
Good point Bill, I wonder if we might consider the brow ridge as an adaptation to living in a forest environment ie frontal skull protection from tree branches and such vs living in social culture? The conical bigfoot shape and cranial crest might be considered similar though...
Here is an artist and he is thinking about this issue and brings up the sagital crest.
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[mojo]

here is the artist at work again...
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[mojo]

Brien Foerster video shows the elongated skulls of Egypt...
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[CurEus]

It has been posited that modern humans with strong neanderthal DNA will produce extreme brow ridges when testosterone levels are considerably higher.
Neanderthaals did not produce fully developed brow ridges until puberty.

The Elongated skulls Symposium is now available for purchase to view it's $10 ( USA)
4 Hours with 9 researchers including LA Marzulli and Brien Forrester. Anthropologists, biologists. medical doctors and forensic specialists discuss the results of the DNA testing on 50 + Paracas skulls ( about 15 had viable DNA) tested at 3 separate labs (only 2 reported their findings)

I am aware that the blood typing and hair samples do not match with Indigenous People of North and South America who all have O blood types and the Paracas Elongated skulls have a variety of Blood types.


http://ppsreport.com/dna-press-conference/

[Star Tsar]

Results are in!


Via Brien Foerster

FINALLY: DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru!

Published 5th January 2018

After 5 years of waiting the Paracas Elongated Skulls results are in!

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Part 2: Black Sea Connection

Published 7th January 2018

The 2 labs utilized in the Paracas research were Lakehead University in Ontario Canada and UCLA in California.

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[Cidersomerset]

The title is a bit misleading as they do talk about the DNA in between other topics...

LA Marzulli - It's All About the DNA - The Hagmann Report 2/5/18

The Official Hagmann Report

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Published on 7 Feb 2018
Visit LA Marzulli's website: http://www.lamarzulli.net


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There was an article earlier that is interesting and the features of this early
European has a mixture of features....

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Cheddar Man: DNA shows early Briton had dark skin

7/2/18

http://static.gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2170087!/image/384535220.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_460346/384535220.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84955-Doggerland-.....North-Sea-s-Atlantis-New-Study-Time-Team-Special-Britain-s-Drowned-World&p=1206746&viewfull=1#post1206746

[Flash]

Results are in!


Via Brien Foerster

FINALLY: DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru!

Published 5th January 2018

After 5 years of waiting the Paracas Elongated Skulls results are in!

r1k_b-jmz3k

Part 2: Black Sea Connection

Published 7th January 2018

The 2 labs utilized in the Paracas research were Lakehead University in Ontario Canada and UCLA in California.

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The interesting thing here is that Crimea and the Black Sea - Caucasus area are considered historically as the origin of the white race (Caucasians from Caucasus).

The region is also the original region of the Khazars whose tribes would have adopted the Jewish religion and would have become the Ashkenazi Jews. Other tribes with Turco languages from Crimea would have adopted the Muslim religion and become the Crimean Tatars, who are genetically more Russian than anything else (like the Ashkenazi Jews)

Also, I remember seeing in this forum, one of the thread that was about the tribes in New Zealand if I remember well, and one of these were blond, blue eyes and had myths of coming from the Middle East having gone through Peru (I may be mistaken, this has to be checked). This would all tie the travelling of Caucasians to America and New Zealand together.

[mojo]

Hi Flash thanks for adding that bit about the Caucasus area and significance of it. Below This is an amazing article of a child elongated skull found in the region and 2000 years old.



2,000-Year-Old Toddler Skeleton with Elongated Skull Unearthed in Crimea

The remains of a 1.5-year-old boy with a pronounced elongation of the skull have been found by archaeologists at a 2,000-year-old burial site in Crimea. Russian archaeologists say that the skull deformation indicates that this boy was marked out to be a warrior.

The skeletal remains were found at a Sarmatian cemetery dating between 1 st and 3 rd century AD near the village of Yakovenkovo in eastern Crimea. It was excavated ahead of work connected with the new giant bridge to link the Crimean Peninsula with mainland Russia.

The Archaeology Fund, which organizes excavations of historically important sites across Central Russia, Crimea, and Northern Africa, jokingly referred to the site as the “alien’s grave”, as elongated skulls are often seen in illustrations of extraterrestrials.

However, artificial cranial deformation is a common trait seen among remains belonging to the Sarmatian culture, who once inhabited modern-day Crimea. They would bind wooden planks to infant skulls with a cloth to gradually alter the shape. “Such deformations were seen as altering the character, and making the warriors 'more aggressive',” reports The Daily Mail . “The high amount of offensive weapons found in Sarmatian graves indicates they lived a military-oriented nomadic life.”

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/2000-year-old-toddler-skeleton-elongated-skull-unearthed-crimea-008506

[Star Tsar]

Let's get physical!


Via Brien Foerster

DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru: Part 3: Physical Anomalies

Published 12th February 2018

Brien takes us through the physical anomalies of these skulls.

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Previous related videos:

DNA Results (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1k_b-jmz3k

Blacksea connection (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vMzW2XyEk

[mojo]

Does anyone think the Smithsonian has information/evidence regarding elonganted skulls? If so why would they hide it if we have evidence from Peru? Its the same about giant skeletons why would they hide it if we have alternative evidence to their existence? Why would a museum hide their most amazing collections? If they hide what we think what else are they hiding?

[Star Tsar]

Let's face it!


Via Brien Foerster

DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru | Part 4: Facial Reconstruction

Published 13th February 2018

Brien hypothesizes on the faces of the skulls...

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Previous related videos:

DNA Results (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1k_b-jmz3k

Blacksea connection (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vMzW2XyEk

Physical Anomalies (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1ZyPbuSmU

[Star Tsar]

More from Brien...


Via Brien Foerster

DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru | Part 5 : Move Facial Reconstruction

Published 14th February 2018

Brien hypothesizes on the faces of the skulls even futher...

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Previous related videos:

DNA Results (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1k_b-jmz3k

Blacksea connection (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vMzW2XyEk

Physical Anomalies (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1ZyPbuSmU

Facial Reconstruction (Part 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA

[Star Tsar]

Brien's got some backup!


Via Brien Foerster

DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru | Part 6 : The Experts

Published 15th February 2018

Brien brings in the experts!

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Previous related videos:

DNA Results (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1k_b-jmz3k

Blacksea connection (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vMzW2XyEk

Physical Anomalies (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1ZyPbuSmU

Facial Reconstruction (Part 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA

More Facial Reconstruction (Part 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecNkl-o8U8

[CurEus]

Does anyone think the Smithsonian has information/evidence regarding elonganted skulls? If so why would they hide it if we have evidence from Peru? Its the same about giant skeletons why would they hide it if we have alternative evidence to their existence? Why would a museum hide their most amazing collections? If they hide what we think what else are they hiding?


I am of the opinion that agents of the Smithsonian collected many items, artefacts, remains and relics. I am not of the opinion that the "public" Smithsonian has these in their collections at all. It is much more likely they were transferred to some special subgroup/agency. Records erased and destroyed. I only say this because anyone with an iota of sense who is engaged to remove these items from public view and research would probably do exactly the same...and probably much more to keep the secrets safe from the rest of the world.

I wondered how secret research was conducted....and then I learned about compartmentalization in various projects and the lengths agencies would go to keep even their own researchers blind to the big picture. The same techniques would be effective here and in ANY secret research.

[Bill Ryan]

Facial Reconstruction (Part 4)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA)




Look at this.

http://projectavalon.net/Cinnamon.jpg

[Star Tsar]

In Summary...


Via Brien Foerster

DNA Results Of The Paracas Elongated Skulls Of Peru | Part 7 : Summary

Published 17th February 2018

Brien in conclusion!

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Previous related videos:

DNA Results (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1k_b-jmz3k

Blacksea connection (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vMzW2XyEk

Physical Anomalies (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1ZyPbuSmU

Facial Reconstruction (Part 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA

More Facial Reconstruction (Part 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecNkl-o8U8

The Experts (Part 6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvEbbAouLk0

[Jayke]

I find it interesting that the Paracas seem to be made up of a variety of different Eurasian haplogroups.

Do you remember uzn’s thread on the megaliths of Russia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99506-Ancient-Russia--Megaliths-Caves-Sacred-Sites-etc-&p=1176093&viewfull=1#post1176093), the tomb of Mithradates in Kerch (Crimea) in particular. Mithradates was mentioned in Francis Yates book ‘The Art of Memory’, where he was revered for having an exceptional memory. His skill was to be fluent in all the 24 languages spoken by the different native inhabitants of his kingdom. Even back in Mithradates time (120-63BC), Crimea was one of the most culturally diverse melting pots of the age. Foerster dates the Paracas to migrating out of Crimea at 1000BC? Only 850 years earlier.

I’ve also heard it speculated that the Antikythera mechanism (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism) was found to be dated back to Mithradates reign, (page 3, 1st paragraph of this report (https://web.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Mayor_HistoryToday_11-20-09_0.pdf)) indicating a sophisticated culture at the time.

Hidden or forgotten history slowly being pieced back together. It’ll be interesting to see how many universities care to peer review Brian Foersters results, or if they’ll just sweep it under the rug to keep their current theories intact.

[aoibhghaire]

Also, I remember seeing in this forum, one of the thread that was about the tribes in New Zealand if I remember well, and one of these were blond, blue eyes and had myths of coming from the Middle East having gone through Peru (I may be mistaken, this has to be checked). This would all tie the travelling of Caucasians to America and New Zealand together.

Sources:
http://celticnz.co.nz/RaglanRamble.htm
https://facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=671357942956871&id=346003915492277

Nineteenth century Maori historian, John Grace, described Ngati Hotu of new Zealand in the following manner: “Generally speaking, Ngati Hotu were of medium height and of light colouring. In the majority of cases they had reddish hair. They were referred to as urukehu. It is said that during the early stages of their occupation of Taupo they did not practise tattooing as later generations did, and were spoken of as te whanau a rangi (the children of heaven) because of their fair skin. There were two distinct types. One had a kiri wherowhero or reddish skin, a round face, small eyes and thick protruding eyebrows. The other was fair-skinned, much smaller in stature, with larger and very handsome features. The latter were the true urukehu and te whanau a rangi. In some cases not only did they have reddish hair, but also light coloured eyes.” (See Tuwharetoa, chapter 7, page 115, by Rev. John Grace).


The tribe Ngati Hotu have had DNA tested, they found strong links to the region of Iran, the location that family oral tradition claimed was an original homeland, and to Peru in South America.

Oral traditions passed down within Ngati Kuri speak of some distant ancestors arriving from India in 700 AD and finding people here that they called “the surveyors”, because of their preoccupation with marking the land with standing stones. In as much as Iran sits adjacent to Pakistan and India, these accounts closely parallels oral traditions of Ngati Kuri and other iwi, like Te Roroa, as to ancestral homelands of remote antiquity.

Whereas there were three possible routes available to get to New Zealand from Iran-India, the DNA evidence would suggest that ancestral route was via Egypt and the north African way mark trails bordering the Mediterranean to the Atlantic Ocean, then crossing to South America to finally settle in Peru. The ancestors would have spent many generations in hospitable lands along the way, picking up cultural symbolism, language, religious expressions, fauna and flora, before fleeing further afield from hostile camp-followers intent upon their destruction.

The Iran connection may be linked to Ancient Celtic Ireland. Its an interesting correlation because glyph s found in Ireland have similar glyph s found in New Zealand. In particular, spirals and labyrinths. Also ancient bullaun alters have been found in other Pacific Islands, such as Samoa and Fiji. New Zealand has probably the best representation of ancient art. The influence of this ancient megalithic art and artifacts may be due to the evidence from Ancient Celtic Neolithic civilizations in Ireland and similar ancient Celtic lands.

These ancient Celtic New Zealanders set up standing stone circles, solar observatories, trig mounds on hill ranges, obelisk survey markers, hill-forts built in the pre-Celtic palisaded style, defensive enclosures riddled with souterrain tunnel systems, souterrain houses, gable-roofed houses, stone beehive houses, canal systems, vast networks of overland walkway systems, irrigation systems, bullaun altars, etc., etc., all of which later came into the possession of Maori as the spoils of conquest. In the early centuries after the arrival of the Polynesian-Maori, these more ancient inhabitants, who had occupied New Zealand for thousands of years, taught Maori such things as fish-net making, line-dancing, the art of facial tattooing, wood carving in the Celtic archaic styles as well as many forms of arts, crafts, weaving, games, oratory, music, fishing by the moon, etc., etc.

For further reference, See: Celt, Druid & Culdee, by Isabel Hill Elder, 1938, pp. 59-60.

[Star Tsar]

Newflash from Brien!


Via Brien Foerster

Paracas Elongated Headed Mummy

Published 24th February 2018

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[mojo]

Amazing Mummy find ty 4 sharing that Star... It made me wonder what happened? Why don't we have people with elongated skulls living today?

[mojo]

more from Brien connecting ancient tech with elongated artifacts as well...

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[Bill Ryan]

...what happened? Why don't we have people with elongated skulls living today?

Caveat: here's what Joseph Farrell calls high octane speculation. But it's also melded with my own fairly strong perception/intuition, for what that's worth.

I think they were good people, a species that was more highly intelligent than homo sapiens sapiens (modern humans), and therefore naturally often became rulers and leaders. If we estimate IQ as proportional to cranial capacity, their IQs could have been 160-250... a good half again as much as our 'normal' human range.

They may originally have been some kind of hybrid, and maybe even an experiment; though I think they were on the planet for quite a while before the dating of the Paracas skulls (2,000-3,000 BCE).

But I think they were misunderstood, demonized and feared, and regarded as inhuman freaks by regular humans. I suspect that they didn't reproduce as easily, and maybe their gestation period (pregnancy) was longer. It also has to be possible that childbirth may have been difficult or dangerous, because of their huge heads.

So in short, I think they became extinct. I do not think they exist anywhere today. And I'd like to say again: I do feel they were very good people.

It has to be possible that the reason their existence has been so covered up, with so many of the MANY skeletons and remains removed from sight forever, is simply because it's not acceptable for the egos of the current ruling authorities that some, if not most, of these people were maybe MUCH more intelligent than us.

(It has to be possible, also, that these people were the ancient great disappeared 'Builder' race, maybe using not only enhanced intelligence, but enhanced psychic abilities, to move the giant stones anywhere they wanted to.)

And the morphic field of the ancient fear, hatred and the desire to exterminate them may still be somehow be an influence.


http://projectavalon.net/Cinnamon_sm.jpg

[mojo]

Well said Bill... your reasoning helps to explain why ancient humans might try and change their children's skull shape as a way to emulate these noble beings. The artist images above portray them as a distinguished and regal race as well...

[Sunny-side-up]

Facial Reconstruction (Part 4)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0zW6G_sKA)




Look at this.

http://projectavalon.net/Cinnamon.jpg


Is there a way to know if those people didn't have hair all over their face and not just the normal hair area?
I guess if they did there would be sculptures showing it.

[mojo]

Hi all,
I'm having a problem about the original DNA testing done on the elongated skulls. I was under the impression it would provide specific DNA sequencing like in the original Jurassic Park movie. Instead the testing was more like Ancestry DNA website where they find certain markers on human migration and origins of humans. Something seems amiss to me, if they did not reveal the complete DNA sequence what relevance is there to the test if we can't tell the elongated skull is not of human origin or of something else? With all the recent knowledge that we know now certain labs are creating their own 50% human-animal chimera so are they are going to create another living human-chimera with elongated skull? There must something different about the DNA that comes from elongated skulls and we did not get that answer imo.

[Sunny-side-up]

I agree with you mojo.

If you test a car for metals you will find metals and then even where said metals come from. you find what you are searching for.

But if you look at a car for the structure, blue print in mind you will find the blue print.

You can take a sample of a human and with hi probability say where it spent most of it's early years of life, so if you took a sample of an Alien being on this planet you can find out where it spent most of it's early life Doh.

But look directly (DNA sequence) at said Alien would the structure be different, yes, but you have to look at it and for it in the test yes?

So still no results of the kind I was hoping to see either mojo :(

[mojo]

Thank you Sunny-side-up, It's nice someone else noticed...:)

[DeDukshyn]

Hi all,
I'm having a problem about the original DNA testing done on the elongated skulls. I was under the impression it would provide specific DNA sequencing like in the original Jurassic Park movie. Instead the testing was more like Ancestry DNA website where they find certain markers on human migration and origins of humans. Something seems amiss to me, if they did not reveal the complete DNA sequence what relevance is there to the test if we can't tell the elongated skull is not of human origin or of something else? With all the recent knowledge that we know now certain labs are creating their own 50% human-animal chimera so are they are going to create another living human-chimera with elongated skull? There must something different about the DNA that comes from elongated skulls and we did not get that answer imo.

Unfortunately, DNA tools are still in their infancy and incredibly lacking. DNA "sequencing" and testing for markers are two very different things. One costs fortunes to do and requires time and supercomputers, testing for markers does not. It may just be a limitation of the level of funds available. There's a lot of guesswork still in DNA investigations. Nothing like "Jurassic Park" style of DNA work is happening, except maybe at top secret military levels where funds are not a concern.

Maybe it is just assumed that these are human, or that initial tests had markers that aligned fairly well with human (remember, every human has different DNA and not every human has been sequenced - so imagine that instead of "yes" or "no" type of results, we are more looking at boundaries - is it within the boundary for human?), and they went on to search for other markers.

I think Bill's hypothesis above might be pretty close.

From my perspectives, "humans" are quite possibly a hybrid species themselves ... I think there may well have been several iterations of "humans" (evidence seems to support this) - perhaps the "long skulls" where just one of these iterations.

[mojo]

Hi DeDukshyn, wanted to welcome you back and it's good because you always help to understand what we are seeing in cryptic videos...;)

[DeDukshyn]

Hi DeDukshyn, wanted to welcome you back and it's good because you always help to understand what we are seeing in cryptic videos...;)

Thanks for the welcome! And it is great to be back with all you wonderful Avalonians!

[Star Tsar]

More examples from Brien


Via Brien Foerster

Mystery Of Akhenaten & The Elongated Skulls Of Peru

Published 3rd March 2018

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[mojo]

.... just wanted to let others know that one of the programs, UFO's The lost evidence, mentioned that the elongated skulls had different mitochondrial dna than that of humans, yet Marzulli does not point this out. Very odd imo...

[Star Tsar]

This may be of interest


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Brien Forester | The Elongated Skulls In Peru & Bolivia

Published 23rd April 2017

Brien compresses his data from his Peru & Bolivia investigations into a slide presentation.

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[Ewan]

:bump:

A while since this thread saw front page exposure..

So Brian Foerster with some comparisons, for me the first one is an example of 'cradle-boarding' or simply, 'cranial deformation'. The second is DIFFERENT (as is the third).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_CyZez_XI

The cradle-boarding was an attempt to mimic the other, imo. Brian explicitly states they are both classed as Paracas skulls but I wonder if he is subtly suggesting the first one is clearly not?

[Michael Hawk]

The ancient human with elongated skull were able to reach the 8th chakra while normal human can only reach the 7th

[Ratszinger]

I really think what we see here is a Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal, and Denisovan hybrids each one perhaps related to the other in some family way but all a mix of the three mentioned in different % mixes with their common ground ancestor of course being the little ones they all enslaved and had their way with being these are the bigger more dominant clans. They are each diluted down with sufficient genes of Homo Sapiens Sapiens that made them get progressively smaller and smaller in stature over time as they literally bred themselves into their enslaved captives, forgive my expression, by not being able to keep their penis in their pants they made themselves nearly extinct by never creating many pures of their own kind!

So what we see here are the purest left at a gathering place where like Gobekli Tepe on the other side of the world these three distinct types of hominids met probably in some kind of UN type meeting place for negotiations on trade and what not.

Today the differences between these three distinctly different hominids is barely evident in our appearance. But we are still at this time three distinct separate hominid groups on the planet.

15% of the planet is Cro-Magnon/Neanderthal/Homo Sapiens Sapiens
42% is Neanderthal/Homo Sapiens Sapiens
43% of the planet is Denisovan/Homo Sapiens Sapiens

Of the two larger groups there are very different characteristics that not only are different in type but origin. One, the Neanderthal group is believed to be from Eurasia, the other Africa. The smaller group is the royals all related to Cro-Magnon the only hominid besides them to ever have RH negative type blood. Recent studies indicate all people with red hair, blond hair, sandy hair, light skin, freckles, blue eyes or green eyes are part Cro-Magnon and all these traits stem from their genes.

Those without those genes are the other group of the larger two. The smaller group is believed to have been the most dominant of the three when it ruled but it literally sequestered itself off with it's encampment of captured lesser hominids and dominated them reproducing with them to the point the original disappeared and blended into those he created with his concubines.

Neanderthal followed a similar fate as did Denisovan. I think what Brien and others are finding here are the once rulers of these vestiges of clans still clinging to the identity and cultural ways of their kind. It's been said the blond haired blue eyes races were all coast and island dwellers in many stories from Australia to the NW of the USA and that this is why they were so decimated to become such a small group during the cataclysm. Due to where they frequented they suffered the most losses.

[The Moss Trooper]

:bump:

A while since this thread saw front page exposure..

So Brian Foerster with some comparisons, for me the first one is an example of 'cradle-boarding' or simply, 'cranial deformation'. The second is DIFFERENT (as is the third).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_CyZez_XI

The cradle-boarding was an attempt to mimic the other, imo. Brian explicitly states they are both classed as Paracas skulls but I wonder if he is subtly suggesting the first one is clearly not?


OK, slightly tongue-in-cheek but, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-check it out, wha-wha-wha-wha-what's it all about?

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[Agape]

If you read carefully through the following article you may find something interesting:

https://heritageofjapan.wordpress.com/tag/cranial-deformation/

It seems that cranial deformation was practised through out all of the Old World more than we understand now, first evidence of artificial cranial deformation dating to Neanderthals 45 000 years ago.
The evidence is overwhelming that it has not been practised by one isolated tribe but people at all times, all continents.

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[Ewan]

If you read carefully through the following article you may find something interesting:

https://heritageofjapan.wordpress.com/tag/cranial-deformation/

It seems that cranial deformation was practised through out all of the Old World more than we understand now, first evidence of artificial cranial deformation dating to Neanderthals 45 000 years ago.
The evidence is overwhelming that it has not been practised by one isolated tribe but people at all times, all continents.

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Interesting, but then the question why takes on even more signficance, or importance, no?

[Agape]

If you read carefully through the following article you may find something interesting:

https://heritageofjapan.wordpress.com/tag/cranial-deformation/

It seems that cranial deformation was practised through out all of the Old World more than we understand now, first evidence of artificial cranial deformation dating to Neanderthals 45 000 years ago.
The evidence is overwhelming that it has not been practised by one isolated tribe but people at all times, all continents.

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Interesting, but then the question why takes on even more signficance, or importance, no?


That’s correct and there were certainly multiple reasons for artificial cranial deformation, other than raising priestly class of smarter people attracted more to sky than to earthly matters,
some tribes flattened their children’s foreheads to make them invincible warriors and other tribes flattened their heads to carry baskets.

What it also says is that human past and history on this planet was more cruel than some people care to admit nowadays.


There are probably examples of skulls( like those in Paracas museum in Lima) of different origin other than cranial mutilation but today’s science is in pickle with being able to asses anything other than terrestrial biology and anything higher than “human order”.

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[Ratszinger]

If you read carefully through the following article you may find something interesting:

https://heritageofjapan.wordpress.com/tag/cranial-deformation/

It seems that cranial deformation was practised through out all of the Old World more than we understand now, first evidence of artificial cranial deformation dating to Neanderthals 45 000 years ago.
The evidence is overwhelming that it has not been practised by one isolated tribe but people at all times, all continents.

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Interesting, but then the question why takes on even more signficance, or importance, no?


That’s correct and there were certainly multiple reasons for artificial cranial deformation, other than raising priestly class of smarter people attracted more to sky than to earthly matters,
some tribes flattened their children’s foreheads to make them invincible warriors and other tribes flattened their heads to carry baskets.

What it also says is that human past and history on this planet was more cruel than some people care to admit nowadays.


There are probably examples of skulls( like those in Paracas museum in Lima) of different origin other than cranial mutilation but today’s science is in pickle with being able to asses anything other than terrestrial biology and anything higher than “human order”.

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In the Huns anyway, it was all about mutation to intimidate and scare enemies. They would scar their faces up too as I recall but head binding was also a big part of it. They wanted to appear fearful and monstrous and I would imagine that in a world where at any given night your village could be raided by outsiders I suppose being scary looking for the scouts that would think of doing such a thing may have played some role in it also. It could also be something in the way of trying to be taller, or larger because in nature size matters.

[Agape]

I wished to add this link for some information from today’s medical perspective though inconclusive:

Artificial cranial deformation: potential implications for affected brain function (https://www.longdom.org/open-access/artificial-cranial-deformation-potential-implications-for-affected-brai-function-2332-0915.1000107.pdf)

I don’t think they can observe or investigate anything close to the “Paracas skulls” today, with redundant exceptions found scattered among all ethnics( but the prevalence of individuals born with that condition naturally may be something like 1 in million or less) ( I’ve actually seen and met about two or three such individuals in this lifetime- that’s about).


Here in modern times:

The Mangbetu People of Congo and Cranial Alteration (https://www.asheceramics.com/single-post/2017/02/26/Mangbetu)

They do it in gentle manner by binding from infant age, with some amazingly beautiful results ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrnxVxOOLJ4

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