What´s the end-point of "evil cabal" having its way?

[Ultima Thule]

Never mind how one sees it - as TPTB as only power-hungry humans, as reptilians with ET assistance, as working with archons, you name it - my question is, if "they" get to have it completely their way, what is there to gain in the end?

I find myself asking this question, as at times I find it difficult to keep my morale up. Perhaps it would help to deeply understand exactly WHY or to WHAT END "they" do what the hell it is they keep on doing. This might help in defining WHY should I keep on fighting or opposing it, at any level or capacity - against a seemingly unsurmountable tsunami of disinformation and ploy upon ploy upon ploy.

Add:
In other words - what is their ultimate prize - and what is the ultimate prize in the other end of the continuum?

Thoughts?

UT

[norman]

The most positive excuse I could ever make for them is what Catherine Austin Fitts once said about the shadow government when they first saw the close up photographs of the Rings of Saturn and they were "like a dog that's just seen a bigger dog" and immediately said "raise trillions and we don't care how you do it".

That's possible.

Other than that, I think they are just scum with totally selfish ideas about the future.

[BMJ]

These videos might raise your spirits UT.

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[greybeard]

Never mind how one sees it - as TPTB as only power-hungry humans, as reptilians with ET assistance, as working with archons, you name it - my question is, if "they" get to have it completely their way, what is there to gain in the end?

I find myself asking this question, as at times I find it difficult to keep my morale up. Perhaps it would help to deeply understand exactly WHY or to WHAT END "they" do what the hell it is they keep on doing. This might help in defining WHY should I keep on fighting or opposing it, at any level or capacity - against a seemingly unsurmountable tsunami of disinformation and ploy upon ploy upon ploy.

Add:
In other words - what is their ultimate prize - and what is the ultimate prize in the other end of the continuum?

Thoughts?

UT

Dont think there is an ultimate prize--when you have everything all thats left is the "play" their game with real people as opposed to computer games.
Control it self is addictive and the purpose of the game.
Chris

[Sunny-side-up]

Not sure if this is what you asked for Ultima Thule.
I think i turned into a rant 0.O

I think they want their glory days back.
They want False Kingship over us, they want us as openly outright slaves so they can lord their ill gotten power and tech over us as if they GODS.

So they can then also rewrite their histories and bloodlines to look good again (Wont work this time around).
They want easy food and energies from a totally subservient humanity.
Most of all they want the above because we are the righteous ones and they are only here through force and pain.

So no death and carnage to them, that is what they would love us to try.
so: don't give them that power, don't give them that excuse, don't do their work for them and cause bloodshed, don't be like them!
Just put them in court and deal them justice, openly convict them and banish them.
Hold them for their crimes against: humanity, all beings, creatures and this worlds soul/spirit.

The energies that help keep them here are dwindling fast, they are pushing themselves into an arid burnt out, dry desert of a future (Hell).

Just look at them in their human disguises, they are old and decripped, burnt out husks.
Remember that how they look is the best they can look, because they are 100 times worst in actual form, you probably would see them as reptiles with their old dry flaky, scaly skin and hearts.

Look on at them in pity and feel glad you are not one of them, not like them.
So onwards and upwards and just leave them behind

[Ultima Thule]

Rohirrim charge - my absolute favorite moment of BOTH the book and the movie!

UT

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Never mind how one sees it - as TPTB as only power-hungry humans, as reptilians with ET assistance, as working with archons, you name it - my question is, if "they" get to have it completely their way, what is there to gain in the end?

I find myself asking this question, as at times I find it difficult to keep my morale up. Perhaps it would help to deeply understand exactly WHY or to WHAT END "they" do what the hell it is they keep on doing. This might help in defining WHY should I keep on fighting or opposing it, at any level or capacity - against a seemingly unsurmountable tsunami of disinformation and ploy upon ploy upon ploy.

Add:
In other words - what is their ultimate prize - and what is the ultimate prize in the other end of the continuum?

Thoughts?

UT

Dont think there is an ultimate prize--when you have everything all thats left is the "play" their game with real people as opposed to computer games.
Control it self is addictive and the purpose of the game.
Chris

Control was something I also came up while pondering - is control a way to feel like god? A way to feel not alone - be it while doing good or evil?


What do you think - would it be possible to let them play and opt out? Or is that impossible while in physical body - would they just eventually appear at your proverbial "door step" and force you to take a stand?

UT

[Baby Steps]

genes are like akashic records - if you can write enough bad stuff into peoples gene/racial memory, they then continue to manifest slavery & misery.

Can fear/hate/destruction/violence REALLY be a food source for some entities?

I think those entities are real to us, as we opted for the challenge of TURNING this dualistic reality, but ultimately they are an illusion because the path away from one-ness and love is the path away from EXISTENCE

I do think that Christianity is right when it teaches that the world is controlled by evil.

I wish I could ask Barbara Markiniak the question: ' Are we here to experience LIVING with dark controllers, or DISLODGING dark controllers?'

I think her answer would be 'Well, what do you CHOOSE?'

[Billy Vasiliadis]

Hey UT,

I think like others have said there isn't really an end goal. It seems to me that it is all about power and control and the desire to forever increase those two things. I think they are like warlords, as we understand them here on Earth, but rather than seeking out new territories to claim as their own, these beings seek out planets that they can 'add to their collection', although at its core it is the same desire, just being played out on a much larger scale. Sounds like a game one would get tired of rather quickly, but I guess some beings just love the show.

I totally sympathize with your feelings of low morale and I wish there was something I could say that would immediately lift your spirits. It is an overwhelming planet to live in and you are not alone. I truly do believe with all my heart though that Earth will be a paradise in the not too distant future. Howard Storm, a famous NDE'er, spoke of the vision he was shown of future Earth, in a 'mere' couple hundred years from now, and what he was shown was basically heaven on Earth. There is a video on youtube if you are interested where he talks about this, just type in his name and you should find it. A lot of other sources have spoken of this and I believe it to be true. Thinking of that often helps soothe my soul. Best of luck brother.

Billy.

[Ultima Thule]

What is it that evil most fears? What is it that they most run away from?

Is it love?

UT

[greybeard]

What is it that evil most fears? What is it that they most run away from?

Is it love?

UT

Several things all linked together.
Being ignored.
People being without fear.
A raising of consciousness.
The enlightened
The spiritual Truth of non-duality---Advaita

Chris

[ghostrider]

Just like every other culture , they will hve their time, then they will fall , destined to be a pile of rubble covered over by deep sand and dirt... some researcher digging around in th dirt will find their gold, their bones and wonder who were they and what happened to them ...

[Baby Steps]

What is it that evil most fears? What is it that they most run away from?

Is it love?

UT

As Yoda said - 'Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose'

[Foxie Loxie]

I think that since most of us have no desire to "control" people or manipulate situations it is very hard for us to wrap our heads around WHY they do it. Having dealt with such people on a personal level, all I can say is, they must be vibrating at an extremely low level & the best way to handle it is simply not to be "involved". All each of us can do is affect our own little sphere of influence.....but in the case if the Avalonians, some have a great sphere of influence! I have enjoyed taking in the interviews of Robert Stanley. Most uplifting & listening to his story allows us to see that there ARE those on the "outside" who do want to help us & WILL! For that matter, Bob Dean's life story shows that as well, as does the early life of Jordan Maxwell. We ARE creating a better timeline; we just have to focus!! :flower:

[Michi]

Perhaps it would help to deeply understand exactly WHY or to WHAT END "they" do what the hell it is they keep on doing.UT


Control it self is addictive and the purpose of the game.
Chris


I think that since most of us have no desire to "control" people or manipulate situations it is very hard for us to wrap our heads around WHY they do it.

Everybody is doing what they think get what they want.
And:
In essence every being wants to be at cause over anything.
The criminal insane however does this with a complete fixation and at the cost of everybody else.
He is afraid of anybody becoming more powerful than himself so he makes damn-sure, nobody else does.
And he relentlessly keeps feeding his obsession.

I think, the following quote illustrates this:


An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life...

"A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
"It is a terrible fight between two wolves.

One is Evil -- he is anger, envy, sorry, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment,
inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

The other is good -- he is joy, peace, love,
hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and
faith.

This same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." -Author Unknown

[Ultima Thule]

What is it that evil most fears? What is it that they most run away from?

Is it love?

UT

Several things all linked together.
Being ignored.
People being without fear.
A raising of consciousness.
The enlightened
The spiritual Truth of non-duality---Advaita

Chris

I´ll just go with a basic concept, that might be descriptive:
• Unity got bored of experiencing only perfection and love, it split.
• The splinters that no longer experience perfection and love, might be considered evil and they would in this context be the most important players of the game, especially the longer they manage to escape and stay separate?
• So they would be all: hear no good, see no good, speak no good? Playing hide and seek for as long as possible, but eventually to be found?

UT

[greybeard]

We live in duality opposites--you cant have good without evil--the are co dependent.
How would you know what is good without the bad.
Conscious can not grow without the choice.

Higher consciousness does not need the bad to automatically perform the right life supporting action
So automatically as the collective consciousness rises the evil will drop away.
The evil ones are part of the collective consciousness as are the saints.

Chris

[Rich]

Everyone is simply trying to be happy everyone deserves our help, evil or not. If someone is evil it's because they feel powerless and don't know how to feel loved.

Here is a good explanation by Bashar why there is no need to worry about these people:
WiitDdmmi18

[enfoldedblue]

I imagine a universe where all is conscious expression. Most expressions are aligned with love and understand that they are not separate...they work in unison, in harmony with all. Of course there are always exceptions to every rule... so there are also rogue energy expressions who rather than work with love...choose to bend it to their will, for their benefit. I see for them the end goal is complete mastery, complete domination...cementing their position at the top of the hierarchy (love UNDER will). However, I perceive this as delusion... for the very pinnacle of power that they want...the ultimate power source, the godhead, the holy grail, the highest universal frequency is LOVE. That is the irony...the catch 22... for it is the one thing they can never truly possess. Their power comes from mastering cold detachment.. but the frequency of love can never be possessed, it can only be felt...

[Biff]

Realize the truth: There Is No Cabal ... It's an invention of paranoid and imaginative kooks.

[Satori]

They have convinced themselves, for myriad reasons, that they need and want what they do and how they do it, just as much as they (and we) need water, food, shelter and nurture. The means are the ends in themselves.

In short, they do it because they want to. (And we let them get away with it, principally due to ignorance and then apathy.)

[Justplain]

Evil serves the selfish separate self. Everything that it desires, when it gets what it wants, the satisfaction is fleeting, never enough. Therefore, evil can never be satisfied. When an evil person finally tires of the pain of its selfish separation, only then will it turn to seek reunification with their higher self, where love resides.

On the Earth, today, it is said that humanity has collectively decided on the soul level, to end this enslavement. This may not appear to be happening, and will likely take many generations, but that is the direction we are headed. People will reconnect with their divine souls via unselfish love, encouraged by the influx of helper souls who will assist us through this transition. Humanity will brecome in harmony and co-creator with Mother Earth.

In addition to those mentioned above, Nicola Tesla reportedly had a vision where he said the bad men would get their evil ways now, but his way would win in the future.

[Helene West]

Realize the truth: There Is No Cabal ... It's an invention of paranoid and imaginative kooks.

I feel the opposite of you.

If we were only as smart as medieval serfs - they knew they were ruled.

You can't fight or escape from what you can't or won't even identify.

[Flash]

it is the first time I love Bashar so much.

I think Cabal etc are full filled with fear, including reptilians, up to a point where they do not feel anymore, got trained not to feel it, and finally decided to disconnect from their soul. Some of them cannot be help, they have no longer the tools to go to another reality. They would have to do a leap of faith at this point, to change toward something they do not understand or want to know. Which is improbalbe at this time.

However, us, we can change, we can implement another reality.


Everyone is simply trying to be happy everyone deserves our help, evil or not. If someone is evil it's because they feel powerless and don't know how to feel loved.

Here is a good explanation by Bashar why there is no need to worry about these people:
WiitDdmmi18

[ghostrider]

The end game is the revival of the Roman Empire, one world system , global domination, bio-chipping every person on earth ... total control , the middle class gone, and goverment running eveything ...

[Ultima Thule]

Evil serves the selfish separate self. Everything that it desires, when it gets what it wants, the satisfaction is fleeting, never enough. Therefore, evil can never be satisfied. When an evil person finally tires of the pain of its selfish separation, only then will it turn to seek reunification with their higher self, where love resides.

On the Earth, today, it is said that humanity has collectively decided on the soul level, to end this enslavement. This may not appear to be happening, and will likely take many generations, but that is the direction we are headed. People will reconnect with their divine souls via unselfish love, encouraged by the influx of helper souls who will assist us through this transition. Humanity will brecome in harmony and co-creator with Mother Earth.

In addition to those mentioned above, Nicola Tesla reportedly had a vision where he said the bad men would get their evil ways now, but his way would win in the future.

Is the point then "ultimate separation" - gathering possessions and power in a maximal way to mimic god? Is it the opposite polar end - except it is not a real end, as unity does not have poles?

UT

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The end game is the revival of the Roman Empire, one world system , global domination, bio-chipping every person on earth ... total control , the middle class gone, and goverment running eveything ...

Let´s say all that comes to pass. What then? What do they have left to do, when everything to the last minute detail is the way they wanted it?
Can they continue from there, what is next?

Edit:
I encountered a striking idea from someone (don´t remember who it was, possibly Marianne Williamson): terrorists are 100% committed to fear, we only occasionally committed to love. Should there be similar commitment, there would be no question as to how things go.

UT

[161803398]

Of course there is a cabal. As Karl Rove said when he got angry at his interviewer one day: (Karl Rove) said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." There's your cabal....the empire, including their politically correct sycophants who care not what their government does or whether it starts world war III as long as they retain their privilege. There is your Nazi Germany and there is your US of A.

That much is certain.

[Helene West]

what I had meant by saying previously 'if we were only as smart as medieval serfs' was that they knew and acknowledged they were ruled by a ruling class. They were in endless wars but when many had the opportunity to escape to the New World they took it to get away from obvious class oppression.
Today people's eyes will glaze over or they immediately get restless if you use the term ruling class or oligarchy or cabal. I use 'ruling class' more in conversation cause I've had intelligent people say something like - 'what is an oligarchy?'. I've not tried the word 'cabal' in conversations and I don't think it would register just because they won't know the meaning. Some will accuse you of 'conspiracy theory' of course.

So that is the point - most still believe we are ruled by a president, congress and supreme court but that they are just all biased or incompetent. That is why people love the voting cycle where they feel they can - 'throw them all out!'. We just have to make sure we vote, vote, vote....and throw the bad guys out...

I have an aunt in her '70s who was very politically active in her college days. She said back then most political activists acknowledged that race and gender were tools of those who ruled. But today the one-percenters have a chokehold on ownership of media and the colleges and have succeeded in almost deleting class consciousness from our minds and replacing it with race, race, race and some gender, gender, etc. consciousness. They have succeeded in creating an invisible smokescreen to hide themselves just through media persuasion and college infiltration. The more we concentrate on race and gender they have almost carte blanche to destroy us internally and go unidentified, unexposed...

[TrumanCash]

It appears to me that the end-point would be a cashless, chipped--and therefore totally controlled--world as was told to Aaron Russo by Nick Rockefeller. And it appears that 1984 is one of their play books. And it is happening right before our eyes right now.

It is being implemented in the US via the "social security number". Other countries have similar systems. People cannot function (i.e., buy or sell) without that number. See US Code, Title 42, Section 666 (http://healthfreedom.info/mark_of_the_beast.htm), which was written by the American Bar Association and promoted and signed into law by none other than lawyer/liar/lecher Bill Clinton. [Clinton deceptively promoted that the law was about going after "dead-beat dads", but the law actually imposes the number on everyone. Remember what daddy Bush told Congress? The NWO is the "rule of law". Ironically--or maybe not so ironic--the number is voluntary! This is in fact the "national ID" which has already been voluntarily accepted by nearly 100% of Americans, including Christians.]

"America is that land which fought for freedom, then passed laws to get rid of it." -- The Honorable Alfred E. Neuman (http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2016/03/03/a-boy-with-no-birthday-turns-sixty/) of Mad Magazine fame, candidate for president, 1956

http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/xxx-d01-mad-alfred-18.jpg

Of course, the elitists are intentionally implementing biblical prophecy as the ETs behind this were the ones that created Earth's religions in the first place. These time-traveling ETs have been working on this very effective mind control mechanism for thousands of years and now we see it playing out in the intentionally created and forced clash of cultures of Christianity and Islam resulting in chaos to assist in the implementation of their new order.

There was a pro-Rockefeller book that I used to own and one of the chapters began with the information that David Rockefeller and Allen Dulles used to meet after church and discuss how religions could be controlled. So it appears that the bible is also one of their play books.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

[mojo]

my question is, if "they" get to have it completely their way, what is there to gain in the end?

Do you think the answer might be the Georgia Guidestones? The ptb like to do this, hiding in plain sight...

[Ultima Thule]

my question is, if "they" get to have it completely their way, what is there to gain in the end?

Do you think the answer might be the Georgia Guidestones? The ptb like to do this, hiding in plain sight...

It might be - or similar. I´ve had an NDE, where I utterly realized how everything in this reality just appears to be "wrong" or "bad", in bigger reality it was clear, that nothing actually can be wrong. This reality being kind of a playing field - what I however don´t grasp at this moment, is why the basic "chip" this game deals in, is suffering? Why not something else? Are there worlds, galaxies or realities, where the game deals you a set of something else? Is this setting something unique to earth or is the whole universe filled with similar scenarios where evil beings wreak havoc?

Another quote from LOTR, Two Towers - what can a man do, against such reckless hate?

UT

[Ultima Thule]

It appears to me that the end-point would be a cashless, chipped--and therefore totally controlled--world

What is it, they enjoy then? What keeps them motivated? How come ordinary people take part in it (apart from being blackmailed)?

UT

[greybeard]

If they are linked to the lower astral then they will feed on the energy of fear.
If this is the case they would probably stop short of trying for absolute control.
If there is absolute control--apathy arises and thats below the level of fear.
Its easy to create a fear driven response--Just tell people you have the ability to control them--It does not have to be true

Who knows--we are just guessing.

Chris

[Justplain]

Evil serves the selfish separate self. Everything that it desires, when it gets what it wants, the satisfaction is fleeting, never enough. Therefore, evil can never be satisfied. When an evil person finally tires of the pain of its selfish separation, only then will it turn to seek reunification with their higher self, where love resides.

On the Earth, today, it is said that humanity has collectively decided on the soul level, to end this enslavement. This may not appear to be happening, and will likely take many generations, but that is the direction we are headed. People will reconnect with their divine souls via unselfish love, encouraged by the influx of helper souls who will assist us through this transition. Humanity will brecome in harmony and co-creator with Mother Earth.

In addition to those mentioned above, Nicola Tesla reportedly had a vision where he said the bad men would get their evil ways now, but his way would win in the future.

Is the point then "ultimate separation" - gathering possessions and power in a maximal way to mimic god? Is it the opposite polar end - except it is not a real end, as unity does not have poles?

UT

Hi UT,

I see you not only want to know what the end result will be of the cabal, but what they will do when they get there. As far as the shorter term end result, It appesrs that what the dark lords (archons, reptilians, dracos, annunaki) want is a servant humanity that is transhumanized into programmable cyborgs after a population thinning series of traumatic global events that will make that goal easy to attain. In order to maintain the entertainment value, and they love a controlled opposition, they might want/permit some level of independence in places on earth to continue a struggle for freedom, which they could 'play with'.

I think you are right that the darkside controllers feel 'godlike' being in charge. On a big ego trip at others' expense.

You need to realize that the dark lords have been playing these games on Earth for millions of years and dont appear to be tiring of it. You should also realize that these games are retarding the evolutionary progress of higher consciousness on our home planet. We have an opportunity currently to shed this enslavement by connecting to our higher selves via unselfish love, humility and spiritual compassion. If we do, paradise awaits us. If not, mother earth will have to abort our experiment in order to clean the slate to proceed in raising consciousness through some other biological vehicle.

[ghostrider]

They begin depopulation down to 500 million by any means...

[Ultima Thule]

They have convinced themselves, for myriad reasons, that they need and want what they do and how they do it, just as much as they (and we) need water, food, shelter and nurture. The means are the ends in themselves.

In short, they do it because they want to. (And we let them get away with it, principally due to ignorance and then apathy.)

That is a problem, isn't it - when it doesn't concern oneself directly, it is so very tempting to look the other way - even think that the poor b**tards in trouble, have brought in on themselves(on whatever grounds, karma etc.) and think that my good circumstances are also a product of me being such a wonderful person, Deserving it.

UT

[Sueanne47]

I wonder 'if' Trump will drain the swamp? I'd dearly love to see Soros in prison, better still on death row.. very nasty individual.

[DawnUnicorn]

I think they kind of represent entropy, the opposite to order and creation, possessed and driven mad by that destructive force , believing somehow that a collusion with it brings some sort of power, perhaps even immortality .. like befriending the grim reaper, helping him even, would give them special privileges... I'm mostly thinking out loud now, but I think they're possessed, and driven insane, perhaps to them, complete wreckless power over all is the end goal but they fail to realise or acknowledge, their very same recklessness will destroy the thing they wish to hold power over... yep, swept up and enamoured by in the forces of entropy, often the opposite to those like us

[Ultima Thule]

I think they kind of represent entropy, the opposite to order and creation, possessed and driven mad by that destructive force , believing somehow that a collusion with it brings some sort of power, perhaps even immortality .. like befriending the grim reaper, helping him even, would give them special privileges... I'm mostly thinking out loud now, but I think they're possessed, and driven insane, perhaps to them, complete wreckless power over all is the end goal but they fail to realise or acknowledge, their very same recklessness will destroy the thing they wish to hold power over... yep, swept up and enamoured by in the forces of entropy, often the opposite to those like us

That definitely sounds a fine analogy to me! Do they also represent death and thus ending of all - would they prefer to end all including themselves?

UT