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Althena
12th November 2016, 17:30
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(NaturalNews) As we feared was likely to happen, an election victory for Republican President-elect Donald J. Trump is sparking dangerous protests in far-Left regions of the country, with some activists now openly calling for violence.

In an interview with CNN the day after Trump defeated Democratic challenger Hillary Clinton, a Latina woman named "Lilly" was clear and blatant in her threat to turn American cities into war zones.

"If we don't fight, who is going to fight for us? People had to die for your freedom where we're at today. We can't just do rallies, we have to fight back," she said.

"There will be casualties on both sides. There will be, because people have to die to make a change in this world," she continued. "Trump, enough with your racism. Stop splitting families. Don't split my family."

Never mind the hypocrisy, once more, of the Left – they claim to have cornered the market on "compassion" while denouncing the "hate" of the right – what this woman is calling for is the killing of American citizens and the forces of stability within the civil society to achieve a political objective.

Sedition is okay when Democrats call for it?

That's sedition, pure and simple. Beyond that, it's a threat to murder American citizens. But you'll notice from the video featured here at Mediaite that the idiot CNN "reporter" didn't even bother to point out the danger of this woman's threat or make her aware that what she appeared to be calling for was the start of another civil war.

We can only imagine the virulent outrage if Clinton had won and Trump supporters took to the street threatening another civil war. The establishment media coverage would be wall-to-wall. President Obama would be denouncing the candidate and his supporters. Clinton herself would claim she was right about Trump voters being "deplorables."

But the fact is, as has been documented over and over again, Clinton- and Obama-aligned Leftists have been the instigators of violence throughout this election cycle. And now that Trump has pulled off what they viewed as impossible, they don't want to accept the results – though they would have demanded the country accept Clinton had she been victorious.

This threat of violence is real and there are indications that it's only going to get worse. For example, in the wake of Trump's victory, the insane Left now wants California to secede from the United States (#Calexit), with state leaders having already contemplated it, which is amazing in and of itself.

Mind you, Left-wing Democrats are the same people who ridiculed and demonized a secession movement in Texas during the administration of Barack Obama, saying that the first Civil War decided the issue and that any attempt to pursue same is a waste of time.

My, how hypocrisy changes perspectives when, suddenly, the angry Left doesn't get its way.

But it's not just California. A wider movement would have four states secede from them to form their own country: Nevada, California, Oregon and Washington.

All of this is based on an irrational and unrealistic belief that somehow, in this day and age, Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress will attempt to bring back slavery and institutionalized racism, all while jailing gays and lesbians and militarizing the borders. That kind of thinking is epically stupid, narrow-minded and just plain goofy, but it passes for legitimate among the political Left. It also lays bare the absolute hatred the Left has for any ideal they disagree with and any person who is not on their side, politically and ideologically.

No constitutional way to secede, so violence may be a foregone conclusion

Our founding fathers sought to break away from an England that was oppressive, autocratic and unwilling to grant its subjects in the colonies basic human rights and freedoms. Their adherence and loyalty to the crown was non-negotiable, and whatever the king wanted, the colonists had no reasonable recourse against.

Those conditions don't exist today, despite what these violent Leftists want you to believe. There are constitutional protections; there are courts; there are state legislatures and various other avenues of recourse. In fact, realistically speaking, Barack Obama was the president who did the most harm to the Constitution, by ignoring provisions and statutory laws he did not agree with.

But Trump, who has never held an elected office, is being compared to some of history's worst figures, simply because he believes in the rule of law and the Constitution. And for that, crazy Californians and Leftist thinkers on the West Coast want out.

The danger here is, if they don't get their way legally and constitutionally, they will resort to violence. And in fact, the latter option is the most likely, considering that after the Civil War, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that there was nothing in the Constitution that permitted a state to leave the union once it was accepted in.

We're already seeing the fomentation of discontent to which the always-violent Left seems perpetually engaged. It could get ugly from here.


These people make me sick to my stomach.:crazy:

Gaia
12th November 2016, 17:49
I think the idea that spontaneous protests are supposed to be rational or utility-driven events misses the mark by a long shot, which is why looking for that sort of "point" tends to be so unsatisfying. Protest movements can become organized and cohesive and develop into strategic operations, but at their root, at their beginning, most are a public welling-up of reaction to an intolerable situation, and organic and messy and incoherent as a result.


Sadly, KGW was broadcasting live last night in Portland : http://www.kgw.com/news/local/trump-protests-planned-for-fourth-straight-night/351192552

Portland also has a long history of active protest GHW Bush called it “Little Beirut” in the late ‘80s/early ‘90s due to the city’s reaction to his visits. This surely has a strain of that history. And overall it’s a very liberal city only about 20% of voters in the county chose Trump this year.

These hypocrites shout "Give peace a chance", and then they threaten with violence if they don't get their way. I remember back in 2000 when my own town Québec city was in hostage.... Same old, same old....

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Althena
12th November 2016, 17:53
This Latino woman thinks that killing people that you don't like is OK. And she wants to stay in my country? These psychos REALLY do need to be deported.

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neutronstar
12th November 2016, 18:20
I think the media is just stirring things up. I think it started with professional protesters, then people that are easily swayed by the MSM started protesting as well.

DeDukshyn
12th November 2016, 20:49
Gotta love the whole "left vs right" war ... lol. Just more of exactly of what keeps "them" in power ... Raise your perspectives. Mindsets that are consistently and constantly caught up in the Left vs Right war are not in any position to be able to evaluate anything objectively. It's the exact same as the old redneck, vehicle inspired, "Ford vs Chevy" war. Where you have idiotic fanboys ignoring any facts that don't fit their views and saying literally anything to defend their "alliance". So too does this fanboyism apply to political parties and / or position in the "left/right" spectrum; however at this level, "divide and conquer" the masses is the tool that we are helping them use against ourselves.

It just makes me chuckle, to see what strength people hold onto these alignments that blocks 50% of the picture.

Just my two cents. I like to think the majority of Avalon can see past the well crafted divide and conquer strategies that are employed to keep the masses under control. A higher perspective gives a much clearer view of reality.

ghostrider
13th November 2016, 01:38
Division, hatred, violence , from the group of people who claim to be more tolerent, compassionate, enlightened, and more loving than those they diagree with, yet they do the very things they are so strongly against...

lucidity
13th November 2016, 04:37
These stories wouldn't be circulated without either the collision
or simple authorship of the cabal that owns the MSM and just lost the election.

someone needs to find a way to insure _true_ independence of the press.
At the moment, it's just a tool of the cabal.

It would be a great job-creation scheme to split up these mega media corporations
(in the way that microsoft was split up)... on the grounds of monopoly concerns.
Introduce a rule that no company can own more than 10% of the media market.
That no holding company can straddle media and other concerns (like oil or banking)

And maybe introduce a rule that basically says.. any director, CEO or senior public official
found guilty of corruption (accepting money for 'favours' ... is subject to dismissal and/or
imprisonment)

That would make people think twice... especially those who valued their careers.

jaybee
13th November 2016, 10:32
Division, hatred, violence , from the group of people who claim to be more tolerent, compassionate, enlightened, and more loving than those they diagree with, yet they do the very things they are so strongly against...


exactly

besides the ones who are paid or are just there to take advantage of the situation or vent general frustrations or enjoy the excitement of it -

it must be a case of projection as understood in psychology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection


Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

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Carmody
13th November 2016, 14:48
These stories wouldn't be circulated without either the collision
or simple authorship of the cabal that owns the MSM and just lost the election.

someone needs to find a way to insure _true_ independence of the press.
At the moment, it's just a tool of the cabal.

It would be a great job-creation scheme to split up these mega media corporations
(in the way that microsoft was split up)... on the grounds of monopoly concerns.
Introduce a rule that no company can own more than 10% of the media market.
That no holding company can straddle media and other concerns (like oil or banking)

And maybe introduce a rule that basically says.. any director, CEO or senior public official
found guilty of corruption (accepting money for 'favours' ... is subject to dismissal and/or
imprisonment)

That would make people think twice... especially those who valued their careers.

The usa used to have laws to prevent media consolidation. Those laws were in place to prevent what you see in front of you today.

What you see in front of you was a planned act, the scrapping of laws that were in place since the 1930's.

Democracy in Peril: Twenty Years of Media Consolidation Under the Telecommunications Act
(http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34789-democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications-act)

IIRC, the 'telecommunications act of 1996', which would place it as being done under Bill Clinton's watch.



But now is a good time to discuss our growing media crises. Twenty years ago this week, President Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The act, signed into law on February 8, 1996, was "essentially bought and paid for by corporate media lobbies," as Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) described it, and radically "opened the floodgates on mergers."



with great fanfare. The bill, which was lobbied for in great numbers by the communications and media industry, was sadly a bipartisan misadventure - only 3 percent of Congress voted against the bill: five senators and 16 members of the House, including then-Rep. Bernie Sanders.

At the time, President Clinton touted the law as "truly revolutionary legislation ... that really embodies what we ought to be about as a country." House Speaker Newt Gingrich boasted of projected consumer savings and private job growth. Rep. John Dingell (D-Michigan) "thanked God" for the bill that would "make this country the best served, the best educated and the most successful country ... in all areas of communications."

Despite all of these glowing words, the consequences of the bill were disastrous. The act "fueled a consolidation so profound that even insiders are surprised by its magnitude," said one trade publication, according to Robert McChesney, in his book, Rich Media, Poor Democracy: Communication Politics in Dubious Times.

More than 90 percent of the media is owned by just six companies.

"Before the ink was even dry on the 1996 Act," wrote S. Derek Turner, research director of Free Press, in a 2009 report proposing a national broadband strategy, "the powerful media and telecommunications giants and their army of overpaid lobbyists went straight to work obstructing and undermining the competition the new law was intended to create."


Big Media's Relationship With Hillary Clinton

What is most revealing when analyzing the donation patterns of these industries in the data from the Center for Responsive Politics - be it cable television, print and periodicals, radio or telecom services - is that Hillary Clinton is, by far, the largest recipient of donations of any candidate in the 2016 election in either party. In fact, of all the top industries that have donated to Clinton, the TV/movies/music category ranks behind only the securities and investments category. (This data is from reports filed on January 31, 2016, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.)

How can we have a real debate about media issues, when we depend on that very media to provide a platform for this debate?

More troubling is that these filings come on the heels of a report from Politico that the Clinton Foundation has received donations, some of them very large, from most of all the major media companies directly: Viacom, News Corporation, Reuters, NBCUniversal, Newsmax, Time Warner, Mort Zuckerman (owner of US News &World Report and the New York Daily News), Comcast, AOL Huffington Post Media and Robert Allbritton (owner of Politico). George Stephanopoulos, one of ABC News' most visible journalist and a former staffer for President Clinton, has also been under scrutiny for not disclosing a $75,000 donation to the foundation.

Of course, the Clinton Foundation is not a political campaign and does some philanthropic work. So while this all might be legal, it is extremely unsettling, especially in tandem with all the campaign donations Hillary Clinton has received from the major players in this industry.

In March 2015, for instance, a Comcast executive held a $50,000 per plate fundraiser for Clinton's super PAC. "Comcast NBCUniversal operates in 39 states and has 130,000 employees across the country," said company spokeswoman Sena Fitzmaurice at the time. "It is important for our customers, our employees and our shareholders that we participate in the political process."

Of course, media companies don't just donate to Clinton, but also to members of Congress from both parties. Further, as the Center for Responsive Politics reports, the FCC is filled with "revolving-door" employees, who have been switching back and forth between government work and lobbying for Comcast.

Their aggressiveness in Washington makes them a dangerous enemy in the fight for free and democratic media. In this environment, it should come as no surprise that the position of FCC chairman is typically held by a former lobbyist for the cable industry, such as Tom Wheeler, the current chairman, who was once president of the National Cable and Telecommunications Association, a major opponent of net neutrality.

MorningSong
13th November 2016, 15:03
During my meanderings on the tube today, I ran across the following vid. At about 3 minutes in , the fellow talks about the historic platforms of the Republicans and the Democrats, some things I had never realized...hmm. He then goes on and talks about the rioting.

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I am so sorry this is happening in what I used to call "home".... if the Americans were hated abroad before (and I've had my share of comments here where I am), it's just getting worse with the news blasting all of the rioting going on and they make it look like the whole country is out in the streets shouting....

The mythological, great country that once on the apex of respect and ultimate goal of weary dreamers is falling fast.

If I could somehow project just one message so that everyone in the States could see and hear it at the same time, it would be this next video...

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Carmody
13th November 2016, 17:59
Language warning, but brilliant:

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waves
13th November 2016, 18:21
The fact that Avalon tolerates these sensationalist titled threads by totally undiscerning members falling for media hype and exaggeration only adds to the problem, it does not add to revealing the relentless media propaganda. A local news anchor literally said yesterday.. "THE PROTESTS CONTINUE! At least 100 people are now marching......"

The desperate losers refusing to give up and change their tactics don't get that 60M other citizens didn't buy all their other lies and see thru this now too. 99.9999% of America is not 'rioting' including the losers, there is no 'civil war'. The agenda to create unrest, incite students and pay and bus protesters will obviously continue for a while, and even after inauguration will include relentlessly spinning everything Trump says or does negatively no matter how positive. Buying into and continuing the propaganda on alternative media only makes it worse.

Avalon, you'd stop some closed minded Jesus believer freak from pushing their agenda and not call that inhibiting free speech. Please start doing a better job of stopping closed minded CNN believer freaks too.

greybeard
13th November 2016, 18:51
I agree up to a point waves but people have a right to express which gives others the chance to have a more "moderate" view point heard.
Yes 60million did not vote and that is possibly the heart of America.

To say that what is happening is Civil War beggars belief.

Im sorry that people repeat what is in the media or u tube as gospel.
Who owns the media ?
Who wants to create fear?
Who profits from divide and conquer?

Im sorry that people do not get that they are being used, deceived, by the very ones they think they are exposing.
TPTB must be having a laugh at these sincere attempts.

Chris

Sueanne47
13th November 2016, 19:21
Avalon, you'd stop some closed minded Jesus believer freak from pushing their agenda

waves ~ You dont like sensationalist titled threads, well I dont like what you just wrote either : 'Jesus believer freak' is VERY offensive to some.

Dont you realise this is why the world is in a bad state? its because people in it are in the process of removing god and any goodness left. We ought to be standing with each other in & outside of Avalon!

greybeard
13th November 2016, 19:51
Avalon, you'd stop some closed minded Jesus believer freak from pushing their agenda

waves ~ You dont like sensationalist titled threads, well I dont like what you just wrote either : 'Jesus believer freak' is VERY offensive to some.

Dont you realise this is why the world is in a bad state? its because people in it are in the process of removing god and any goodness left. We ought to be standing with each other in & outside of Avalon!

We are in agreement Sue.
If I have an agenda it is to promote that which is life supporting, uplifting.
A rising tide lifts all boats.

Every effort to raise personal consciousness lifts all.

"Power vs Force" explains the reality of this in great detail.



http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19795.Power_vs_Force

Sir David Ramon Hawkins, M.D, Ph.D. is a nationally renowned psychiatrist, physician, researcher, spiritual teacher and lecturer. The uniqueness of his contribution to humanity comes from the advanced state of spiritual awareness known as " Enlightenment," "Self–Realization," and "Unio Mystica."Rarely, if ever, has this spiritual state occurred in the life of an accomplished scientist and physician.
Therefore, Dr. Hawkins is uniquely qualified to present a spiritual path that is scientifically compelling to modern society.

The classical hallmarks of this state are pristine awareness of Ultimate Reality, compassion for all beings, tireless dedication to alleviate suffering, radiant joy, and humor.

Chris

Sueanne47
13th November 2016, 19:59
Thank you Chris, 'compassion for all beings' I REALLY wish we had that!, insults and put down's do no good at all.

p.s that book is worth a read.. :thumbsup:

Shannon
13th November 2016, 20:28
Language warning, but brilliant:

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"Being offended doesn't work anymore..."

Werd.

He really wrapped it up well. People are tired of being scared of voicing their opinion because they may be labeled racist or sexist or homophobic. Or islamaphobic ...

bettye198
13th November 2016, 20:28
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Protestors usually have a humanitarian purpose, like Vietnam or Gay marriage rights as example but this, THIS is a mob mentality of the worst proportions. There could be justified anger and disappointment but then, it sweeps up the riff raff, those who have allegiance to their welfare, their freebies, their families who work undercover illegally, their unemployment status that has gone on far too long, their pot smoking saturated brains who just want to rant to rant, their dopey foggy brains that don't work academically ( you know those who drop out of school or flip burgers with apathy), so what was begun has morphed into civil unrest.

Now I hear threats of Oregon seceding from the Union ( shades of Texas for decades) and more talk about Cal Exit and petitions in the millions spreading their fear and rage. The approach is undignified and based on undue fear. The President Elect has not even governed yet! And these poor souls have not yet taken off their blinders to the long laundry list of Clinton crimes. Its as if they are drugged into a fantasy world. Or a hypnotic trance.

What disturbs me is that THIS behavior gets world attention and usurps the trust of our nation as a whole. I believe in free speech. However all the Vietnam moratoriums we had in college did nothing to change diplomatic policy. In fact, war waged on elsewhere and has not stopped. Nuclear sites are worthy of a protest and yet they continue on, radiating their poison. Did you know that the one thing that is abhored by peace loving beings in the Universe? Nuclear! I've heard it can actually fragment the soul consciousness.

neutronstar
13th November 2016, 20:59
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Those people in the video are what you call the sheep. They are so sad. The ones that still buy into the mainstream media.

greybeard
13th November 2016, 21:39
Its their nature--if they weren't angry about this they would be shouting about something else.

Could go under the heading of Ego.. there has got to be an enemy, in order to have a strong ego.

Chris

DeDukshyn
15th November 2016, 00:09
Language warning, but brilliant:

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"Being offended doesn't work anymore..."

Werd.

He really wrapped it up well. People are tired of being scared of voicing their opinion because they may be labeled racist or sexist or homophobic. Or islamaphobic ...

My favorite :)

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