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The Freedom Train
15th November 2016, 20:04
It is far from easy to choose love in the face of what is being done to us and by us – however, I consider this choice to be an incredibly transformative step towards freedom from suffering. In the instance of love, the effort to change the circumstances of our lives is taken inwards, and the changes made on a purely energetic level (when choosing love and acting from that vantage point). Changing the world with consciousness has to be the most efficient and “miraculous,” instantaneous and sustainable method of change there is - no resources used other than time and energy of the person working with their love and consciousness.

According to the super psychic children of Bulgaria, as quoted by Drunvalo Melchizedek in his enlightening book “Living in the Heart” - “if we see ourselves as emissaries of love, then how do we live our lives, knowing this truth? Begin now.”

Meaning, if you see that love is the answer, then what do you do? Begin by making that your choice and your primary focus.

When I started a non profit in 2007, I struggled to find ways to rally the troops and implement the plans myself and my fellow board members and constituents had in mind. I became disenchanted and began to realize that, 1) I would never be able to implement real change in the world until I myself was transformed and healed, and that 2) the change I wanted so desperately to see come about in the world would not come about until there was a mass consciousness shift for humanity at large. But how would this consciousness shift come about I wondered?

Clearly, in a utopian world there would be no problem in choosing love. But it has become clear to me that, in order for the utopian world that we all yearn for to materialize, we must first choose to love. This requires 1) choosing to have compassion for ourselves, to love ourselves, and 2) to choose to have compassion for other people/all beings and to love them (moving from duality to unity consciousness). In order to do this naturally, we must learn to live from our hearts, as opposed to our minds. And by the way, I am grateful to my mind for working so diligently to keep me safe and look out for my best interests.

I have found in meditation that the mind is the place of black and white duality. The heart is the rhythmic place of unity, in love with all of creation. When we choose to take our consciousness from our minds and bring it down to our hearts, amazing things start to happen!

Another excellent practice is to begin fostering gratitude in our lives for the situations and people that cause us pain and suffering. This gratitude starts with the decision to empower ourselves, and it should not be rushed. If we do not feel ready to go there in any area of our lives, that is perfectly fine – we must give ourselves love and compassion, because when we have been victimized, this is what we need more than anything else. However, when we are ready, we can begin with gratitude – a thankfulness to those who were the instigators of circumstances in our lives that have taught us SO MUCH about ourselves, helping us to grow EXPONENTIALLY. Fantastic! Before long, we begin to feel a wellspring of love following this gratitude – love for our attackers. It is really a phenomenal process, because it is natural – not contrived or disingenuous.

Personally, I know I have been dancing around the issue of LOVE AS THE ANSWER for many years. But I didn't know how to put this simple and profound realization into action. It seems to be my personal path to learn about love from the perspective of the victim – a place that requires compassion for the self, and ultimately, compassion for the perpetrators.

Most recently, I had a series of realizations. I had the epiphany that love is the answer, and spent a day in total bliss. I thought that perhaps I had reached enlightenment. But this satori was fleeting. I had a new awareness, and then the work of putting it into practice was before me, little did I know. I was challenged with life circumstances that triggered deep emotional traumas and programs – ultimately for me, I found myself face to face with fear, and with self loathing. This self loathing was so consuming I had no idea how to get myself out it. I tried reaching out for help, but did not find it. At first, I was upset by this. Then I decided I would pick myself up, somehow, brush myself off, and see what I could do. I sat in meditation, and a natural feeling of compassion and love for myself ensued. I began to realize that I has being challenged to learn to love myself, no matter what.

After I began making this decision, a lot of energetic shifts followed. The next challenge came in the form of developing compassion and love for the beings responsible for my psychotronic targeting. When I chose to come from a place of self love, and gratitude for what they were doing to me, knowing that it was only making me stronger and teaching me so much, I was suddenly able to feel love for them as well. Since this meditation and realization, my love has been growing exponentially. The wellspring inside of my chest is opening, and the boundless love that I carry within me is beginning to pour forth. I am so grateful.

My strategies for choosing love currently include:

1) practicing vipassana meditation
2) repeating mantras of love, such as “thank you, I love you” whenever I can think of it – while driving, while in the shower, while washing the dishes, while lying in bed before sleep, etc.
3) learning to love myself, to have compassion for myself, to feel free, empowered, and grateful for my life learning experiences
4) learning to love others by developing compassion for them
5) practicing the heart opening meditations of Greg Burdulis
((https://www.gaia.com/series/open-your-heart-greg-burdulis))
6) practicing the heart space meditations of Drunvalo Melchizedek in his book, Living in the Heart

I look forward to hearing about what strategies you all have found helpful in choosing to live in love.

“You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Perhaps one day you'll join us, and the world will live as one.” - John Lennon

transiten
15th November 2016, 20:22
Why does it say views 0 although I did say Thankyou to this post? Doesn't a thankyou count as a viewed post?

lake
15th November 2016, 20:37
I comprehend the OP and can consider the feeling.

I did not choose love....I chose empathy. It comes without my personal baggage.......so is simpler for others to 'carry'! :p

Marikins
15th November 2016, 21:44
Freedom Train, loved your post.

Two things I had to do:
1. Lose fear (fear made me separate and small and opposite of free)
2. Feel love through the heart rather than think love

Ioneo
15th November 2016, 22:59
I think this applies:

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Ashy67
15th November 2016, 23:25
Freedom Train, loved your post.

Two things I had to do:
1. Lose fear (fear made me separate and small and opposite of free)
2. Feel love through the heart rather than think love

Hi Marikins, I agree with you. I've found it to be instinctive and a natural state of higher being. Maintaining that state on the other hand is a different matter :sun: Also that state of being has profoundly grasped me in situations when I haven't expected it and I was able to gain a better perspective :thumbsup:

The Freedom Train
16th November 2016, 02:42
Freedom Train, loved your post.

Two things I had to do:
1. Lose fear (fear made me separate and small and opposite of free)
2. Feel love through the heart rather than think love

Most excellent! Both are so important! Yes, I am finding that feeling love is so powerful! I am so grateful for this process!

I have been through a lot of trauma in my life, so even though many people know me as a very loving person, I have found it hard at times to feel it for myself. For some reason, beginning in the mind helped me to get there in a way (I think.....!) - but the getting there of course, is to feel love, so you are absolutely correct! Feeling Love = Truth.

Feeling love - I think this is why the heart space meditation that I read about in Drunvalo's book has been so helpful for me. Also, I have been focusing a lot on the tightness on my chest in meditation - it has been changing a lot lately. It is opening up, and feeling free. Phew!

The Freedom Train
16th November 2016, 02:57
I think this applies:

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I really enjoyed your video, thank you so much for sharing it!

Wow like minds - the awakening to love is happening around the globe it seems - at the same time that division and hatred are throwing sparks, so too does our love and awareness burn brightly for those who are ready to take a stand for the power of love. Compassion for the psychopaths!

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that state of being has profoundly grasped me in situations when I haven't expected it and I was able to gain a better perspective :thumbsup:

I have had similar experiences! I wish I understood how it happens, but it is miraculous when, it seems like an impossibility to feel love, it fills us with a natural and effortless ability to do so. :)

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I just want to add, thank you so much to everyone viewing and commenting, sharing your love and your perspectives. I am feeling so blessed and so grateful right now!

From me to you (knowing too that we are all one) - love love love.

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TEOTWAIKI
16th November 2016, 05:38
That's a powerful spell you are casting and the only way that the dark forces will be defeated.

Thanks for this thread and I really loved your photo!

I've been wanting to begin a thread (not eligible yet) that discusses the experience of making the choice you so heart-felt discuss; My experience has been immediate and savage attack from the "other" camp.

Sorry, I don't want to hijack your beautiful thread; continue to spread love.

petra
16th November 2016, 17:55
2) repeating mantras of love, such as “thank you, I love you” whenever I can think of it – while driving, while in the shower, while washing the dishes, while lying in bed before sleep, etc.

Repeating mantras of love? Hmm!!

This has been going on with me, through no fault of my own, for about a week now. My thoughts keep saying "I love you", and it's beginning to get a bit annoying because it's abrupt and/or interrupts my other thoughts. I tried writing "I love you too so please stop saying that" but it's still happening quite frequently, and I'm anxiously waiting for that to go away.

I think learning to love yourself is so very important too, and that's what I've been working on. Maybe parts of myself are learning to love the other parts.... ha ha :)

Rich
16th November 2016, 23:44
I used to look at past incidents in my mind where I wasn't loving and changed my negative feelings to love,
the result was emotional/physical healing and an immense bliss.

Love heals everything.

The method comes from Lester Levenson if someone wants to read about it.

TEOTWAIKI
17th November 2016, 09:58
I'll just give this a bump :)

We've heard, "All You Need is Love" for so many years and from so many people.
Always good to be reminded of the basics as it is far too easy to get mired down in the swamp...

greybeard
17th November 2016, 10:20
Im not sure that you can choose to love it seems to be an overwhelming feeling that just wells up inside--it does not have to have a reason.
You may be able to choose to be kind, to be forgiving, and compassionate but thats different and very laudable.
Love does not need a reason--it just is.
Chris

The Freedom Train
17th November 2016, 18:34
That's a powerful spell you are casting and the only way that the dark forces will be defeated.

Thanks for this thread and I really loved your photo!

I've been wanting to begin a thread (not eligible yet) that discusses the experience of making the choice you so heart-felt discuss; My experience has been immediate and savage attack from the "other" camp.

Sorry, I don't want to hijack your beautiful thread; continue to spread love.

Thank you Teotwaiki!! You are very kind! Indeed the attack when the choice is made is intense - we can persevere! Keep going! Also, please no apologies! Your input is not a hijack - I value your contribution!

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Repeating mantras of love? Hmm!!

This has been going on with me, through no fault of my own, for about a week now. My thoughts keep saying "I love you", and it's beginning to get a bit annoying because it's abrupt and/or interrupts my other thoughts. I tried writing "I love you too so please stop saying that" but it's still happening quite frequently, and I'm anxiously waiting for that to go away.

I think learning to love yourself is so very important too, and that's what I've been working on. Maybe parts of myself are learning to love the other parts.... ha ha :)

I love this! How ironic! Perhaps we are shining some light and awareness on a current global trend!

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I used to look at past incidents in my mind where I wasn't loving and changed my negative feelings to love,
the result was emotional/physical healing and an immense bliss.

Love heals everything.

The method comes from Lester Levenson if someone wants to read about it.

This is fantastic! It describes the process that I have been engaging with lately as well - I can relate to what you have experienced. Lester Levenson's work sounds amazing - I will definitely check it out! :)
Thank you for sharing your love EmEx!!

http://www.lesterlevenson.org/

The Freedom Train
17th November 2016, 21:08
We've heard, "All You Need is Love" for so many years and from so many people.
Always good to be reminded of the basics as it is far too easy to get mired down in the swamp...

Truth!

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The Freedom Train
17th November 2016, 21:40
Im not sure that you can choose to love it seems to be an overwhelming feeling that just wells up inside--it does not have to have a reason.
You may be able to choose to be kind, to be forgiving, and compassionate but thats different and very laudable.
Love does not need a reason--it just is.
Chris

I absolutely agree with you - Love is a free flowing phenomenon, rather than a contrived thought-form.
An overwhelming feeling that wells up inside - absolutely!
Love not needing a reason - yes, pure love is unconditional in nature - yes you are so right on.

However, at least through my own experiences, I have found that the point you bring up here is not a case of either/or, but both/and. Particularly, in cases where our initial, programmed, knee-jerk reaction is not one of love, but of fear. In these instances, it does seem helpful to begin with a choice. The choice, when made over and over again in various ways (mind-related exercises and efforts, ie) seems to lead to a natural outpouring of effortless, pure love from the heart (in my own experience anyway).

Examples:

- A holocaust victim choosing compassion and forgiveness for the Nazi soldiers (ironically, a survivor speaking about this very personal choice he made visited my daughter's school yesterday)
- Choosing to learn compassion for, and to love oneself in the face of a lifetime of programming that tells us to do otherwise.

The choices made in the most challenging situations - these are such incredible opportunities for transformation and transmutation, and these are the situations and actors that require love so desperately. The result, it seems, is freedom from suffering, awakening, and enlightenment on an individual level, which inevitably contributes to a collective shift capable of creating the utopia many of us dream of.

Also, as far as choices and mental exercises go, it is undeniable that the majority of thoughts for many people are negative in nature (thanks to cultural conditioning, mind control, etc). So any mental activity that switches up the tone, theme, and vibration can provide a respite from the onslaught of negativity we are all faced with.

The "choice of love", for me, seems to lead, in a magical way that I do not understand, to the natural welling up and outpouring of love that you describe, greybeard.

Thank you so much for bringing up such an excellent point for discussion and analysis!!

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greybeard
17th November 2016, 22:21
If you assume a virtue often enough it may well become true.

A modern term is "Fake it till you make it"

I think that the latent capacity to love is more pronounced, stronger, in some than others.
Compassion might be the highest form of love--I think most can be moved to show compassion in difficult circumstances--it may not last, in that after the event has passed the usual personal nature (whatever that is ) takes over.


The thread has an uplifting energy. and thats important---every positive thought raises the consciousness of all.

Chris

WhiteLove
17th November 2016, 22:59
Thank you 'The Freedom Train', I find you are providing great guidance into a highly critical topic for humans at this time. According to what I've experienced, peace/love/truth is a gateway that leads to maximum unconditional love within your personal limiting frame of reference about unconditional love. This is a highly, I repeat, highly happy state of being, with incredible emotional depth! Everything is in truth and the peace, joy, lightness and freedom within that truth is incredible! Still we must understand that even this comes from a very limiting perspective. I am one of I don't know how many, that have been taken past that human max reference of love, I have been brought into an unconditional love vortex provided by God to experience what love is beyond what we understand, perceive and are aware of what it is here on this earth. And what it is, it's something so profound, something so incredible, that it is not possible for me to describe it in words, because even words put too many limitations on it. But I can say that anyone that has experienced that kind of love and is able to remember it - you and your life is forever changed by such an experience.

I sometimes therefore think that a very high form of love here on earth is when we learn to seek, feel and be love without applying definitions onto it - to just let it be what it is. Steps towards that I find to be truth, integrity, kindness and authenticity. That combination is basically about moving towards a higher level of real than you were yesterday, every day more real. As you then learn to be more and more real, you become more and more in truth. With this and similar things comes peace. And peace is the key, it's the key that humans collectively on this earth need to put first among all possible priorities in this world. And in this peace there is unconditional love that is of subjective nature, it is very true, but true within the limitations of the human nature. Beyond this there are higher levels of love, so much higher levels of love that it is beyond all of your greatest imaginations. In fact, infinitely greater levels of love! It's nothing less, we are talking about something so profound, something so incredibly wonderful, something so overwhelming and true! Here in this life we are witnessing some of this love, but know that beyond whatever level of love you are experiencing here, there is some completely different love out there that breaks down your logical world fully and completely! That is because it is totally boundless, it has no conditions attached whatsoever and that my friends, that is love.

Here are some videos I find contain love:

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Rich
18th November 2016, 14:15
This is fantastic! It describes the process that I have been engaging with lately as well - I can relate to what you have experienced. Lester Levenson's work sounds amazing - I will definitely check it out! :)
Thank you for sharing your love EmEx!!

http://www.lesterlevenson.org/

Lester Levenson isn't alive anymore some of his followers have turned his
teaching into a business so be cautious of spending money on something you don't need.

Rich
18th November 2016, 14:29
Also, as far as choices and mental exercises go, it is undeniable that the majority of thoughts for many people are negative in nature

That is true and this is what causes all suffering, if we only believe our loving thoughts then we won't experience any negativity,
as Lester said "think only of what you want and that is all you would get".

petra
18th November 2016, 16:55
Also, as far as choices and mental exercises go, it is undeniable that the majority of thoughts for many people are negative in nature

That is true and this is what causes all suffering, if we only believe our loving thoughts then we won't experience any negativity,
as Lester said "think only of what you want and that is all you would get".

This sounds like the most sensible way to go about it, but when I try to only focus on the positive, I end up feeling guilty of being ignorant... or worse, as if I am deluding myself!

I tend to think in worst case scenarios... I can't help it. Positivity is not going to protect me. Knowledge protects, and in order to defend against something, we need to be aware of it first.

greybeard
18th November 2016, 17:15
Also, as far as choices and mental exercises go, it is undeniable that the majority of thoughts for many people are negative in nature

That is true and this is what causes all suffering, if we only believe our loving thoughts then we won't experience any negativity,
as Lester said "think only of what you want and that is all you would get".

This sounds like the most sensible way to go about it, but when I try to only focus on the positive, I end up feeling guilty of being ignorant... or worse, as if I am deluding myself!

I tend to think in worst case scenarios... I can't help it. Positivity is not going to protect me. Knowledge protects, and in order to defend against something, we need to be aware of it first.

I fond it best to just let thoughts come and go--I dont have to fight or feed them--invite them in for tea.
They are not perceived as mine--not owned.. this takes a little practice but not energy.

Chris

petra
18th November 2016, 17:26
I fond it best to just let thoughts come and go--I dont have to fight or feed them--invite them in for tea.
They are not perceived as mine--not owned.. this takes a little practice but not energy.


Very well put, I like how you explain it takes practice. First step is definitely being aware of it though, I used to simply not notice, but I guess as time passed it just became more blatantly apparent.

The trouble seems to be with the feelings associated with the thoughts... the associations themselves. Fixing the bad associations tends to help, in my experience anyways.

CO2
18th November 2016, 17:31
If ALL of Love responded through us at all times nothing would get accomplished on Earth; we would be a bunch of sap buckets hugging and kissing each other every second. I'm not kidding; Love is that powerful. When It does wish to show up through our lives we display gratitude, give It away to whom we shall, and be grateful the next time It shows up through us again.

As far as loving ourselves goes? Same thing. When Love embraces my inner child I usually cry, shake, and wonder why It comes so seldom. I do however, respect myself and appreciate that Love does Love me at all times even when I don't Love myself.

The Love I felt through this thread tells me that you are a great mediator of Love which we all can feel but may at times be hiding Itself from you. If It didn't, you would not have been able to write this thread because you would have been crying, shaking, and wondering why It comes so seldom. You my dear, are amazing! If I only had half the contact with Love as you do maybe my threads would not come across as harsh as they do.

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 17:42
Thank you 'The Freedom Train', I find you are providing great guidance into a highly critical topic for humans at this time.

According to what I've experienced, peace/love/truth is a gateway that leads to maximum unconditional love within your personal limiting frame of reference about unconditional love.

we must understand that even this comes from a very limiting perspective. I am one of I don't know how many, that have been taken past that human max reference of love, I have been brought into an unconditional love vortex provided by God to experience what love is beyond what we understand, perceive and are aware of what it is here on this earth. And what it is, it's something so profound, something so incredible, that it is not possible for me to describe it in words, because even words put too many limitations on it. But I can say that anyone that has experienced that kind of love and is able to remember it - you and your life is forever changed by such an experience.

I sometimes therefore think that a very high form of love here on earth is when we learn to seek, feel and be love without applying definitions onto it - to just let it be what it is. Steps towards that I find to be truth, integrity, kindness and authenticity. That combination is basically about moving towards a higher level of real than you were yesterday, every day more real. As you then learn to be more and more real, you become more and more in truth. With this and similar things comes peace. And peace is the key, it's the key that humans collectively on this earth need to put first among all possible priorities in this world. And in this peace there is unconditional love that is of subjective nature, it is very true, but true within the limitations of the human nature.

Beyond this there are higher levels of love, so much higher levels of love that it is beyond all of your greatest imaginations. In fact, infinitely greater levels of love! It's nothing less, we are talking about something so profound, something so incredibly wonderful, something so overwhelming and true! Here in this life we are witnessing some of this love, but know that beyond whatever level of love you are experiencing here, there is some completely different love out there that breaks down your logical world fully and completely! That is because it is totally boundless, it has no conditions attached whatsoever and that my friends, that is love.

And Thank You!! for such an excellent post! I love everything you have to say here and agree wholeheartedly. I especially appreciate your points about unconditional, pure love being beyond description and definition of the mind. I feel this in my heart to be absolutely true! How we find our way to feel it, to know it, to let it flow for all that is - the steps you refer to, are in line with my own experiences thus far. It is an amazing journey, and I am very grateful for my own personal path and perspective - I am learning so much! Thank you again for sharing :)

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 17:46
That is true and this is what causes all suffering, if we only believe our loving thoughts then we won't experience any negativity, as Lester said "think only of what you want and that is all you would get".

Indeed I have found that switching up my thoughts is incredibly liberating, and helps me to feel more at peace, and more loving (from, as WhiteLove points out, my own limited perspective as a human!)

Also, I am sorry for posting the link without thorough investigation - I didn't realize it represented more of a co-opted enterprise. Shall I edit my post to delete the link?

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 18:24
This sounds like the most sensible way to go about it, but when I try to only focus on the positive, I end up feeling guilty of being ignorant... or worse, as if I am deluding myself! I tend to think in worst case scenarios... I can't help it. Positivity is not going to protect me. Knowledge protects, and in order to defend against something, we need to be aware of it first.

I can totally relate to what you are thinking and feeling here. I can say that as far as I have experienced lately as a TI who has struggled my whole life with attack in various forms (psychic, psychotronic, etc), which has brought me to the brink of suicide on more than one occasion, I have found that positivity (ultimately, LOVE) is what has saved me. Meaning, I have used strategies to switch up my mental landscape (mantras, meditation, ie) that halt the negative programming that is going on or being triggered - which has, over time, brought me to the point where I am able to feel compassion and love for my attackers (as well as for myself). Coming to this place has resulted in my imperviousness (as far as I can tell so far) from what they have been throwing at me for so many years. It is incredibly liberating, and I was so excited about my most recent experiences and discoveries that I wanted to share (which is why I created this thread).

Your point about awareness is very important, because it is so true. Before I began to see how love and compassion could switch up the attack energies I was being subjected to, an important step in this direction was learning about and realizing that this was what was indeed happening to me. My awareness of the attacks was incredibly helpful, in that I was able to disindentify from the horrid thoughts and feelings that they were putting on me. The awareness empowered me to then take a look and see what could be done about halting the endless cycle of negativity that I was being subjected to (via mind control and psychotronic targeting).

I tried a lot of things - and found that the meditation I practice was the one thing I knew how to DO that dissolved etheric mind control implants (as experienced by myself as a clairsentient and as seen and verified by my clairvoyant friend). However, eventually I found that even my DOING seemed to fall short of effectively transmuting the negativity, which was becoming stronger and stronger as I offered more resistance and ability to overcome.

I was led to the realization that my BEING would be the answer to this problem of the hydra, and indeed my ensuing experiences have not only confirmed my discovery, but have also far exceeded my expectations of what I thought possible. I never thought I would be able to feel love for my attackers. And yet, I have found myself feeling it without effort. I do not know how to explain it. This has been a powerful, and mind blowing experience thus far. I am so grateful, and I am especially thankful that you are here to share with me and for us to learn from each other in these times of turmoil and transition.

Focusing on the positive is not about being an ostrich with our head in the sand - it is about taking back our own power as co-creative beings of love - realizing that is what we are, and learning how to access our own inner portals of universal love (I have heard it called the in-dwelling god, Drunvalo Melchizedek calls it the heart space in the book I have referenced in previous posts). We can acknowledge the very real negative events in our lives and around the world without succumbing to negativity within our own minds and hearts - it starts with a choice, and a determination to find the ways we resonate with to switch up our internal landscapes so that, in the face of overwhelming negativity, we are shielded by the power of our love (which is undeniable, eternal, infinite, undefinable), and our love therily disarms, diffuses, and transmutes all that is not of itself. Like water, LOVE appears to be a universal solvent - however, I find that PURE LOVE is incapable of being contaminated.

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 18:28
I fond it best to just let thoughts come and go--I dont have to fight or feed them--invite them in for tea. They are not perceived as mine--not owned.. this takes a little practice but not energy.Chris

Yes! This is the awareness that Petra speaks of - that which she very rightly does not wish to eschew. To learn to disidentify from the negativity, knowing it is not our own or who we are, is a step towards empowering ourselves to feel the love we carry inside of ourselves (in the face of the very negativity we are disidentifying from).

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 18:47
Very well put, I like how you explain it takes practice. First step is definitely being aware of it though, I used to simply not notice, but I guess as time passed it just became more blatantly apparent. The trouble seems to be with the feelings associated with the thoughts... the associations themselves. Fixing the bad associations tends to help, in my experience anyways.

It does indeed seem to be a journey and a process for all of us who are not already fully experiencing and knowing our perfect Buddha selves (which seems to be the majority of us) - it takes practice. In my experience, my practice has benefited from the utilization of multiple strategies - which leads to a transmutation of feelings/thought form associations. This, I gather, is the "fixing" you refer to?

With the practice (DOING) we begin to move toward BEING - which has such great potential for transformation and change. The power of our minds is formidable - and so of course mind control is necessary to keep us from creating the world we yearn for (a world of peace and abundance). We take back our power when we realize that our minds are powerful, that they have been subjected to manipulation, and that we can counteract this manipulation with various practices (meditation, mantras, etc).

Then we see how powerful our hearts are - there is a brain in the heart as well! (https://www.heartmath.org/our-heart-brain/) Here is the ability to transmute and create, seemingly effortlessly, and without division. The heart is the experiencer and knower of PURE LOVE and unity, rather than duality and division, which is a mental concept. Imagine creating from the heart as opposed to the mind!

It is amazing to me how carefully constructed the messages are surrounding the power of love - haven't we all thought about the idea of someone "meditating away" life's troubles as an ostrich, somebody who is avoiding reality in a cowardly or wholly naive way? Haven't we all at one time or another considered this approach - of working on the energetic level, of working with love - to be incomplete, foolish, unrealistic?

And yet, what is reality? We know that in terms of the universe, scientists have discovered that physical matter makes up only about 4% of it - and THEY DON'T KNOW what the other 96% consists of!! So how is it that we can assert to ourselves and each other that we must, above all, DO something to enact change - that to engage physically with the world around us is the only way to salvation? There is a time and a place for right action, absolutely no questions asked. But where does this right action come from? It is informed by BEING - PURE LOVE. Any mentally directed action will inevitably, eventually, re-create the division and duality we wish to transform - we must learn to live in, and create from, the intelligence of our hearts.

The Freedom Train
18th November 2016, 19:16
If ALL of Love responded through us at all times nothing would get accomplished on Earth; we would be a bunch of sap buckets hugging and kissing each other every second. I'm not kidding; Love is that powerful. When It does wish to show up through our lives we display gratitude, give It away to whom we shall, and be grateful the next time It shows up through us again.

As far as loving ourselves goes? Same thing. When Love embraces my inner child I usually cry, shake, and wonder why It comes so seldom. I do however, respect myself and appreciate that Love does Love me at all times even when I don't Love myself.
The Love I felt through this thread tells me that you are a great mediator of Love which we all can feel but may at times be hiding Itself from you. If It didn't, you would not have been able to write this thread because you would have been crying, shaking, and wondering why It comes so seldom. You my dear, are amazing! If I only had half the contact with Love as you do maybe my threads would not come across as harsh as they do.

Whoa. Your reply gave me chills. Thank you, so much, for such kind words.

I believe the message of love is my mission, and why I am here.

You have given me such an amazing gift - knowing that you have felt the love I want to share with the world is so incredibly gratifying for me that my heart is gushing right now. I am so grateful!!!!!!

You are my emissary of love for the day!

I pray that you find a way to turn the very kind words you have shared with me toward yourself - the love and awareness that you have shared with me is a beautiful mirror.

My hope with my message was to start a journey with whoever was willing to take it - to learn about (and to hopefully experience) the PURE LOVE that we all carry inside. We are the source of PURE LOVE we are looking for.

The Love you felt - is yours!

Have you ever pondered how truly amazing and beautiful you are? How kind, courageous, thoughtful, and worthy you are? How deserving of compassion? How powerful in spirit, as co-creator, not just in thought and deed, but in love?

KNOW that you are a powerful being of PURE LOVE (as you have experienced for yourself in interacting with the information in this thread).

I love and appreciate you. Thank you.

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Rich
18th November 2016, 23:56
This sounds like the most sensible way to go about it, but when I try to only focus on the positive, I end up feeling guilty of being ignorant... or worse, as if I am deluding myself!

I tend to think in worst case scenarios... I can't help it. Positivity is not going to protect me. Knowledge protects, and in order to defend against something, we need to be aware of it first.

That’s a important point, suppressing negative beliefs with positive thinking isn’t healthy (and can even cause bi-polar disorder).
Comes down to being honest, not denying what we truly believe/think.

neutronstar
19th November 2016, 22:36
Im not sure that you can choose to love it seems to be an overwhelming feeling that just wells up inside--it does not have to have a reason.
You may be able to choose to be kind, to be forgiving, and compassionate but thats different and very laudable.
Love does not need a reason--it just is.
Chris

We are here to make choices. We are free to make choices base on love (evolve) or fear (devolve). When we choose to be kind, forgiving and compassionate, those are choices based on love.

joeecho
20th November 2016, 02:46
Choosing love is a mental process based on an ever changing perception of reality, Love is not a mental process.

One can actually 'make' you choose love (or hate) by knowing how the mental process works though it wouldn't work if one knew they were being played.

If one's choice can be manipulated, is it really one's choice?

Love is, the feeling of love isn't (as much).

Kindred
20th November 2016, 03:16
This thread seemed familiar... and it's Always worth repeating...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13289-What-is-Love&p=140074&viewfull=1#post140074

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

Rich
22nd November 2016, 13:58
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The Freedom Train
22nd November 2016, 18:52
That’s a important point, suppressing negative beliefs with positive thinking isn’t healthy (and can even cause bi-polar disorder). Comes down to being honest, not denying what we truly believe/think.

EmEx, I agree that repression does not appear to be a healthy approach to life in general. What I prefer to practice is something I refer to as disidentification - wherin I realize that negative thoughts and beliefs are not my own, or a part of who I am (as a being of pure love).

This disidentification process is what Eckhart Tolle referred to as the moment that brought about his own personal awakening - he realized that he was not the stream of negative thoughts that he was overwhelmed by in his life.

In this way, rather than bottle them (the negative thoughts/emotions) up and act like they are not there, we can acknowledge them, without fighting or resisting, as something foreign making it's presence known. Knowing that it is something foreign (Eckhart calls it the pain body, I consider it to be a result of psychotronic attack and mind control programming) is the first step in learning how to switch up the energies and find freedom from suffering!

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We are here to make choices. We are free to make choices base on love (evolve) or fear (devolve). When we choose to be kind, forgiving and compassionate, those are choices based on love.

Very nicely and simply put. Thank you neutronstar!

The Freedom Train
22nd November 2016, 19:00
Choosing love is a mental process based on an ever changing perception of reality, Love is not a mental process.

One can actually 'make' you choose love (or hate) by knowing how the mental process works though it wouldn't work if one knew they were being played.

If one's choice can be manipulated, is it really one's choice?

Love is, the feeling of love isn't (as much).

This is an interesting perspective! Agreed that love is not a mental process, absolutely.

Why someone with a diabolical plot would want to manipulate people to choose love is beyond me - although perhaps we are being driven by some unknown (and I am assuming beneficent) force to do it. In fact I would not be surprised if that were the case!

I am not sure where to draw the line on the feeling of love versus the LOVE of our being, the PURE LOVE that we are, so I guess I don't have anything constructive to say or add here.

ALl very interesting food for thought! Thank you joeecho!

The Freedom Train
22nd November 2016, 19:05
This thread seemed familiar... and it's Always worth repeating...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13289-What-is-Love&p=140074&viewfull=1#post140074

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

Thank you Kindred, for sharing this thread with me! Yes definitely in this day and age this heart sharing is most certainly worth repeating!

I love this person's response: "Love is void of ego. It is being open and vulnerable so that it frees the spirit to commune with the other droplets of the source which makes everything *one*......We are ultimately and always shall be ....... *Love* "(posted by Linden)

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FANTASTIC!!!! Thank you so much for this EmEx!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Freedom Train
22nd November 2016, 19:14
Hello everyone reading this thread! I would like to express my gratitude and love for all of you who have chosen to interact - to ask questions, to add ideas and concepts, to share their heart and their love on this thread. I am so grateful to be on this journey with you all. For all those reading - thank you for taking the time to do so!

I would like to express my love and gratitude for this process, and for all beings on Earth and beyond. Truly, we are all one.

I am going to be taking a break for the next couple of days, while my daughter is with her father for Thanksgiving, to go into a deep meditation. I am excited about the possibilities and am looking forward to sharing what I discover with you all when I come out of it.

I would also like to share a post I made on a different thread recently (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89706-Who-God-is-and-what-we-are.&p=1114277#post1114277)

...I just had a meditation today where I found that I was the source of pure love that I consider to be the source of all creation in this universe. I am still perplexed, but it is an interesting revelation. I know that this reflects teachings that I have heard - unity consciousness, that we are all 3D manifestations of the same source of pure love, the source of creation.

Your consciousness realizations are profound. Thank you so much for sharing them, Innocent Warrior.

Last year, a friend told me to write a message to myself on my mirror as a way of helping me switch things up energetically and psychologically. I chose this affirmation. I took this pic fall 2015.

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How does it feel to realize that you are the source of PURE LOVE? That you are, indeed, a being of PURE LOVE?

greybeard
22nd November 2016, 19:27
I wish, I wish, that were more people in the world with the attitude of people on this thread.
Consciousness is evolving to know itself as Divine Love.

Chris

Baby Steps
22nd November 2016, 19:41
Im not sure that you can choose to love it seems to be an overwhelming feeling that just wells up inside--it does not have to have a reason.
You may be able to choose to be kind, to be forgiving, and compassionate but thats different and very laudable.
Love does not need a reason--it just is.
Chris

wow it only came to me recently- to carry within my being a sense of love for all beings. this is new, it's great! I found that when the love is there, there can be no judgement. and that is how i percieve God to be- without judgement.

God bless

The Freedom Train
27th November 2016, 02:58
Wow wow wow wow wow. I left my meditations and fell right into researching pizzagate! What a roller coaster ride. I am totally reeling from this.

As a TI, born into mind control slavery, fighting my way out of one traumatic situation after another, this has been incredibly restimulating for me. I came to a point today, after much research, where I felt like I just didn't know what to believe anymore. Nothing made sense to me. I was simply in shock. I do absolutely think that the pizzagate information is legit, rather than "fake news" - but I began to question everything, as I do. I even began to question my own experiences and beliefs. Spiritual teachers and precepts became equally suspect to me - how are we supposed to KNOW these teachings are true when we can't even trust our own experiences as real? They may, perhaps, be manipulations. Our brain can be tricked into believing many illusions. SO where is the truth, and how do we know it when we find it?

After much frustration about the state of the world, and about the dogmatic dictate that we must suffer to grow as spiritual beings (I mean, really) I came to the conclusion that the only phenomenon I can believe in right now is LOVE, pure and simple. That is it.

The Freedom Train
27th November 2016, 03:44
I wish, I wish, that were more people in the world with the attitude of people on this thread.
Consciousness is evolving to know itself as Divine Love.

Chris

Thank you, Chris, for your fantastic sentiment!

I, too, pray that our collective experience of/knowledge of Divine Love grows and flourishes in spite of it all. Oh, how I pray for it!!!!!!!!! It has been more or less an obsession and single focus for me for years now (aside from raising my child and developing/testing survival strategies).

Perhaps it is because I am an Aries, or perhaps it is because I have such a strong drive within me to assist in the process of awakening, but I have been rather put off for the past several days in how much we are being blocked from moving in this direction. I see it in my own process, and I am incredibly annoyed and frustrated with the slow as molasses movement.

As one who does not wish to reproduce dualistic (and inherently doomed) modes of enacting change, I find this situation we are in to be rather infuriating. In my opinion, I see that the change we all want can only really come about once a massive shift in consciousness has occurred. Otherwise, the same old patterns will eventually crop up no matter how much we desire to avoid them. I learned this the hard way through my involvement in both the non profit sector and in intentional communities, and it doesn't take much digging to find countless cases of division/infighting and reinstatement of business as usual in the wake of, or in spite of, concerted revolutionary efforts. An excellent point a woman made in a youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_DBApVObM) about the feminist movement - now women are obligated to work and the family is broken, leaving many children to be raised by strangers or left to their own devices - a phenomenon I have felt infuriated by for years. And it doesn't take much looking around to notice how much the issue of race is not resolved by any means!!!

Personally, I desire for a shift that leads to a permanent, positive, effortless, natural change - I would like to live in my heart, rather than my head. I can be there, yes. But it is not my permanent state of being. So..... I am not sure what to do. They say we cannot sit around and wait for our salvation, and I agree. But how do we actively create our own freedom from suffering? How do we actively step into our hearts - and stay there? I have yet to discover the mode, if there is one. If it requires an action, then that seems rather contradictory (doesn't that fall along the lines of "attachment" or expectation? And what about the whole idea of "earning" something that we should, in my opinion, all be experiencing?). If it doesn't require a specific action, then I would have to wonder, how will the shift we all need come about, if not through some kind of (third party)? orchestrated energetic event, like "ascension" - which I have to admit sounds at once both exciting and fantastically delusional - like, wishful thinking, much?

Furthermore, I really do not see the instructive value in suffering. I don't. It seems clear to me that, in a world without suffering, we would not need to learn how to "overcome" our own shortcomings, for we would not have any. People say, oh but because of suffering I am stronger! But I would say, wait a minute. Suffering does not imbue one with strength - the strength was always there - it is who we are. We are strong DESPITE our suffering, not BECAUSE of it! I do sincerely believe that we are beings of PURE LOVE who have been hopelessly twisted and manipulated, brainwashed and oppressed, blamed and shamed.

SO... where do we go from here?

Love ourselves. Love each other when we can. Love, love, love. Love is all you need. Feel it, spread it, say the word. I just keep coming back to it, the only thing that makes sense to me. And this coming from a woman who, at this point and as of today, cannot wholeheartedly believe in most if not all of what any spiritual teacher has to say. So for anybody who thinks anything that I have to say doesn't add up, I would say - hey I don't blame you one bit!! I am as confused and frustrated about it all as the next person.

Still, I feel love for you all. And thank goodness for that. It is all that makes sense to me right now.

It still does ring true to me that LOVE IS THE ANSWER - so goldangit, I hope that I will open more and more to love, that I will know it to be true (in my heart), that I will live in my heart, that I will speak and act from my heart, not my head. This is my intention for myself, and for all beings.

May we all be freed from suffering. May we all know ourselves as PURE LOVE.

The Freedom Train
7th December 2016, 02:56
Regarding the urge for swiftness, the desire for awakening to come to stay ASAP:

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And, such fabulous insight below. I have been feeling increasingly put off by this vacillating worry I have that I may "fail" - by not taking the right action, by not doing the right action well enough - which will lead to my "missing the mark" - a very upsetting concept, seeing as how I can clearly see the imperative and importance of spiritual evolution for all of us, myself included.

I of course want to play my part as best I can, and the anxiety that I have created for myself regarding my perceived inability to meet my goal has been weighing heavily on my mind for the past couple of months. I am able to avoid it at times, as I have been learning how to practice self love as well over the past couple of months, but at other times I begin to doubt myself, wondering if perhaps I am somehow being misdirected away from my goals. What this man has to say on the matter rings true for me. And so I am feeling a sense of peace that is entirely welcome.

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joeecho
7th December 2016, 12:47
Love love(s) dispite all differences because it knows that ultimately it makes no difference.

http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors39/emmet-fox-author-it-makes-no-difference-how-deeply-seated-may-be-the.jpg

Have a splendid day my friends,

Joe

greybeard
7th December 2016, 18:18
Regarding the urge for swiftness, the desire for awakening to come to stay ASAP:

oTMaF_63CwA

And, such fabulous insight below. I have been feeling increasingly put off by this vacillating worry I have that I may "fail" - by not taking the right action, by not doing the right action well enough - which will lead to my "missing the mark" - a very upsetting concept, seeing as how I can clearly see the imperative and importance of spiritual evolution for all of us, myself included.

I of course want to play my part as best I can, and the anxiety that I have created for myself regarding my perceived inability to meet my goal has been weighing heavily on my mind for the past couple of months. I am able to avoid it at times, as I have been learning how to practice self love as well over the past couple of months, but at other times I begin to doubt myself, wondering if perhaps I am somehow being misdirected away from my goals. What this man has to say on the matter rings true for me. And so I am feeling a sense of peace that is entirely welcome.

OZhCk6sieMA

There are quite a lot of Mooji videos posted in the "Enlightenment and related matters" thread.
The love just shines out of him, the energy is uplifting, coupled with practical ways of changing perception and attitude.
There is only awareness.

Chris

TEOTWAIKI
9th December 2016, 03:15
I don't have anything profound to add at this moment but I just wanted to say thanks to all of you that are keeping this thread alive and well.

Every new post helps to remind me what is truly important in life and my soul thanks all who are taking the time and effort.

Recently my work-a-day life has been very challenging and stressful.
By remembering to move my attention from my head to my heart I am now (at isolated times) experiencing flashes of peace and joy.

Oh that I could manifest this into a continuous state of being!