antibiotics apocalypse? // Ancient recipe that could be a modern cure

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of articles that I thought complimented each other , we have known for
decades that bacteria mutates to resist antibiotics so alternatives are always
being researched and developed costing millions to big pharma. So what if
there are cures already hidden away forgotten in old manuscripts...

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How do we avoid the antibiotics apocalypse?

By Helena Merriman
Presenter, The Inquiry, BBC World Service
4 November 2016

Every year, at least 700,000 people die from drug-resistant infections. It is why
government scientists have described antibiotic resistance as one of the greatest
global threats of the 21st Century. So what are people doing to try to avert the so-
called antibiotics apocalypse? Well, it turns out, quite a lot. First, there are those
who are trying to get us to take fewer antibiotics. That is because the more
antibiotics we all take, the more resistant bacteria become.

Jason Doctor, a psychologist at the University of Southern California, has been
carrying out experiments to see whether it is possible to get doctors to prescribe
fewer pills.

He persuaded more than 200 doctors to sign a letter to their patients, making a
commitment to prescribe antibiotics more judiciously. They blew it up into the size
of a poster and put it on the walls of their health clinics. Then they experimented
with a ranking system, sending doctors a monthly email telling them how many
antibiotics they were prescribing inappropriately compared
to their peers.

They set up alerts on doctors' computers, prompting them to question whether they
really needed to prescribe antibiotics and they also found ways that doctors could
appease persistent patients who demanded the medication.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37848305

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Ancient recipe that could be a modern cure

14 February 2016 Last updated at 00:23 GMT

Short vid on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35550165

Antibiotic resistance is a growing concern. Many health professionals are warning that
a "post-antibiotic era", where infections usually treated by antibiotics could kill, is close.
MRSA is one of the most infamous antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, and is very
hard to treat. But researchers at the University of Nottingham have looked in an
unusual place to find new way of fighting this bug, as Chris Pitt reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35550165

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The AncientBiotics Project

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Published on 30 Mar 2015

A one thousand year old Anglo-Saxon remedy for eye infections which originates from a
manuscript in the British Library has been found to kill the modern-day superbug MRSA
in an unusual research collaboration at The University of Nottingham.

Dr Christina Lee, an Anglo-Saxon expert from the School of English has enlisted the
help of microbiologists from University’s Centre for Biomolecular Sciences to recreate a
10th century potion for eye infections from Bald’s Leechbook an Old English
leatherbound volume in the British Library, to see if it really works as an antibacterial
remedy. The Leechbook is widely thought of as one of the earliest known medical
textbooks and contains Anglo-Saxon medical advice and recipes for medicines, salves
and treatments.

Early results on the 'potion', tested in vitro at Nottingham and backed up by mouse
model tests at a university in the United States, are, in the words of the US
collaborator, “astonishing”. The solution has had remarkable effects on Methicillin-
resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) which is one of the most antibiotic-resistant
bugs costing modern health services billions.

Help to take this research forward by supporting the work via Crowdfunder:
http://bit.ly/1ByC8Ut

[Cidersomerset]

Rise of the Superbugs ....This is good little vid for basic info and easy to understand.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyRyZ1zKtyA

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Antibiotics from the medieval medicine cabinet (1)

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Published on 29 Mar 2015
Help us find out if microbiologists can learn from history to tackle deadly superbugs!
We are a team of microbiologists and historians from the University of Nottingham,
UK. We are searching medieval medical books for potential new sources of antibiotics
to treat modern infections.

To support our research, please visit
http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/23274687...

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Antibiotics from the medieval medicine cabinet (2)

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Published on 29 Mar 2015
Dr Lee, from the University of Nottingham, explains more about Anglo-Saxon
medicine and why medieval medical books might provide a source of potential
new antibiotics. For more information on this project, please see
https://youtu.be/9RbvZ8IwGW0 You can support our research by visiting
http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/23274687...

[Cidersomerset]

This article was supposed to been added to thread title , but I clicked send
before I was finished...LOL. It was the fact that it was a Anglo Saxon
article that I was going to add it here rather than do a separate thread.....

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Great Ryburgh dig finds 81 'rare' Anglo-Saxon coffins

6 hours ago

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Ben Ando speaks to Will Fletcher from Historic England about the
discovery of 81 "extremely rare" tree-trunk coffins at a "previously
unknown" early Christian Anglo-Saxon community's cemetery.


Read more
Anglo-Saxon 'island' unearthed in Lincolnshire field
Great Ryburgh dig finds 81 'rare' Anglo-Saxon coffins

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-37997412

[Cidersomerset]

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[lucidity]

where can we buy this stuff ?

[Desire]

WOW Those remains look really large for the time

[Cidersomerset]

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Great Ryburgh dig finds 81 'rare' Anglo-Saxon coffins

16 November 2016


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Historic England believes the finds will "advance our understanding of Middle-Saxon religious beliefs"

Archaeologists have discovered 81 "extremely rare" tree-trunk coffins at a "previously unknown"
early Christian Anglo-Saxon community's cemetery. Found at Great Ryburgh in Norfolk, their
"remarkable preservation" was due to the waterlogged conditions of the river valley.

The Historic England excavation was carried out ahead of the construction of a lake and flood
defence system.

Chief executive Duncan Wilson said the graves were "a significant discovery".

Read more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-37940012

[happyuk]

Fascinating. And the original recipe for treating a infected eyelash follicle.?

"Take cropleek and garlic, of both equal quantities, pound them well together… take wine and bullocks gall, mix with the leek… let it stand nine days in the brass vessel…"

From this I would ascertain that in addition to the ingredients, the period of fermentation would have been crucial as well as the vessel it was contained in - brass, rather than ceramic etc. Many Ayurvedic texts describe the advantages of storing water in copper/brass vessels. Certain unfriendly bacteria are indeed less likely to thrive in brass water pots than in earthenware or plastic ones.

[conk]

Many of the super bugs can be killed or overcome by use of infant fecal matter implants. Directly into the colon. Definitely works to remedy C. Diff and MRSA.

[Desire]

I'm wondering if this isn't a pagan site. Those artifacts look more pagan than Christian.

[Bubu]

ancient cures may not be that effective this days as modern illnesses are cause mostly by toxins not super bugs. even with ordinary bugs our toxin weakened immune system cannot handle. Detoxing might be more effective.

[Cidersomerset]

I'm wondering if this isn't a pagan site. Those artifacts look more pagan than Christian.

They said it is an early Christian site....


James Fairclough, the lead archaeologist from the Museum of London
Archaeology whose team is based in Northampton, said: "The combination of acidic
sand and alkaline water created the perfect conditions for the skeletons and
wooden graves to survive, revealing remarkable details of Christian Anglo-Saxon
burial practices."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-37940012

[Cidersomerset]

Weird 1,000 Year-Old Recipe Kills MRSA (Staph) Superbug

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Published on 6 Apr 2015

The Anglo-Saxons were well known for a lot of historical feats, but curing antibiotic
resistant superbugs responsible for deadly Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus
aureus infections is definitely a new one. Which strange remedy did the trick?

Kim Horcher discusses with special guests Malik Forte (Gaming Editor, Nerdist.com)
and Carl White (Pro-gaming world champion "Perfect Legend" )

[Cidersomerset]

NEW SCIETIST....

Daily news
30 March 2015

Anglo-Saxon remedy kills hospital superbug MRSA

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The thousand-year-old Anglo-Saxon recipe that kills MRSA

The British Library Board (Royal 12 D xvii)

By Clare Wilson

Take cropleek and garlic, of both equal quantities, pound them well together…
take wine and bullocks gall, mix with the leek… let it stand nine days in the
brass vessel…So goes a thousand-year-old Anglo-Saxon recipe to vanquish
a stye, an infected eyelash follicle.

The medieval medics might have been on to something. A modern-day recreation
of this remedy seems to alleviate infections caused by the bacteria that are
usually responsible for styes. The work might ultimately help create drugs for
hard-to-treat skin infections.

The project was born when Freya Harrison, a microbiologist at the University
of Nottingham, UK, got talking to Christina Lee, an Anglo-Saxon scholar. They
decided to test a recipe from an Old English medical compendium called Bald’s
Leechbook, housed in the British Library.Some of the ingredients, such as copper
from the brass vessel, kill bacteria grown in a dish – but it was unknown if they
would work on a real infection or how they would combine.

Careful collection

Sourcing authentic ingredients was a major challenge, says Harrison. They had to
hope for the best with the leeks and garlic because modern crop varieties are likely
to be quite different to ancient ones – even those branded as heritage. For the wine
they used an organic vintage from a historic English vineyard.

As “brass vessels” would be hard to sterilise – and expensive – they used glass bottles
with squares of brass sheet immersed in the mixture. Bullocks gall was easy, though,
as cow’s bile salts are sold as a supplement for people who have had their gall bladders
removed.After nine days of stewing, the potion had killed all the soil bacteria introduced
by the leek and garlic. “It was self-sterilising,” says Harrison. “That was the first inkling
that this crazy idea just might have some use.”

“The big challenge is trying to find out why that combination works”

A side effect was that it made the lab smell of garlic. “It was not unpleasant,” says
Harrison. “It’s all edible stuff. Everyone thought we were making lunch.”

The potion was tested on scraps of skin taken from mice infected with methicillin-
resistant Staphylococcus aureus. This is an antibiotic-resistant version of the bacteria
that causes styes, more commonly known as the hospital superbug MRSA. The potion
killed 90 per cent of the bacteria. Vancomycin, the antibiotic generally used for MRSA,
killed about the same proportion when it was added to the skin scraps.

A loathsome slime

Unexpectedly, the ingredients had little effect unless they were all brought together.
“The big challenge is trying to find out why that combination works,” says Steve
Diggle, another of the researchers. Do the components work in synergy or do they
trigger the formation of new potent compounds?

Using exactly the right method also seems to be crucial, says Harrison, as another
group tried to recreate the remedy in 2005 and found that their potion failed to kill
bacteria grown in a dish. “With the nine-day waiting period, the preparation turned
into a kind of loathsome, odorous slime,” says Michael Drout of Wheaton College
in Norton, Massachusetts.

If the 9th Century recipe does lead to new drugs, they might be useful against MRSA
skin infections such as those that cause foot ulcers in people with diabetes. “These
are usually antibiotic-resistant,” says Diggle. However, he doesn’t recommend people
try this at home.It wouldn’t be the first modern drug to be derived from ancient
manuscripts – the widely used antimalarial drug artemisinin was discovered by
scouring historical Chinese medical texts.Harrison is due to present the research at
the Society for General Microbiology conference in Birmingham, UK, this week.

Read: Mining the hidden treasure of the world’s unknown bacteria

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27263-anglo-saxon-remedy-kills-hospital-superbug-mrsa#.VR8UYTvF_ja

[lucidity]

Whoever decides to mix up that concoction and sell start selling it... perhaps even on amazon or ebay.
Is going to make a lot of money.

[Helene West]

I got the wine, garlic, onion and brass container. I wonder if it will work without bullock's gall?
after nine days do I have the guts to try a 1/2 teaspoon?

[Franny]

A few years ago I had a MRSA cellulitis. Went to a MD but the antibiotics did not work and I was either allergic or made sick. I also tried honey, MMS and several other things but it continued to spread and I got sicker and sicker.

Finally I tried a combination of things, one at a time:

iodine, after it absorbed:

I used chopped garlic applied as a poultice till it burned too much then removed it - 2 or 3x a day

sunlight

oregano oil with a bandage on top

turpentine applied all day long whenever I thought of it alternating with oregano oil and bandage

Went to bed with turmeric poultice with plastic wrap.

The next morning I was feeling better! The following days I repeated everything again on all affected areas, and they slowly started to heal. I also took the oregano oil and fresh garlic internally and tried the turpentine a few times with molasses. It took about 2 weeks. Cured!

I got it again about 2.5 years later and repeated the same thing as soon as I felt the characteristic pain and saw the lesion. The lesion never multiplied or grew beyond 1.5 mm and started to shrink by the following morning. There was no pain and it was about half the size. I continued the regimen for another day or 2 then went to turpentine and oregano oil alternately for another 5-6 days. Never felt sick at any time. Cured!

The old English recipe is interesting and helpful but difficult without easy access to brass containers or bovine gall but could move us to examine more alternatives.

The above regimen worked for me, give it a try if you find yourself in need. I often go to earthclinic.com for ideas which is where I got the MRSA treatment info.

The tomato tea worked a treat for several colds - it's kind of like a fresh V8 that used to be found in US stores, but with lots of garlic and lemon juice.

[Cidersomerset]

You just reminded me of an article on David's headline page from a few days ago...


Drink Golden Milk Before Bed To Cleanse Your Liver While You Sleep - Claim

By David on 8 December 2016 GMT Medical/Health

NATURAL NEWS.....


Drink Golden Milk Before Bed To Cleanse Your Liver While You Sleep

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By Twain Yobra

Posted Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 10:02am EST


‘If you want to sleep better and flush toxins out of your body, then this
is the most important article you’ve ever read. I will show you how
‘golden milk,’ a mixture of coconut milk, turmeric, ginger and black
pepper can improve your health.

This delicious mixture will help you sleep like a baby since it’ll calm you
down and reduce stress. It’ll also detoxify all your organs, leaving you
healthier, slimmer and energetic.’

Read more: Drink Golden Milk Before Bed To Cleanse Your Liver While You Sleep – Claim

http://blogs.naturalnews.com/drink-golden-milk-bedtime-cleanse-liver-sleep/

[Helene West]

A few years ago I had a MRSA cellulitis. Went to a MD but the antibiotics did not work and I was either allergic or made sick. I also tried honey, MMS and several other things but it continued to spread and I got sicker and sicker.

Finally I tried a combination of things, one at a time:

iodine, after it absorbed:

I used chopped garlic applied as a poultice till it burned too much then removed it - 2 or 3x a day

sunlight

oregano oil with a bandage on top

turpentine applied all day long whenever I thought of it alternating with oregano oil and bandage

Went to bed with turmeric poultice with plastic wrap.

The next morning I was feeling better! The following days I repeated everything again on all affected areas, and they slowly started to heal. I also took the oregano oil and fresh garlic internally and tried the turpentine a few times with molasses. It took about 2 weeks. Cured!

I got it again about 2.5 years later and repeated the same thing as soon as I felt the characteristic pain and saw the lesion. The lesion never multiplied or grew beyond 1.5 mm and started to shrink by the following morning. There was no pain and it was about half the size. I continued the regimen for another day or 2 then went to turpentine and oregano oil alternately for another 5-6 days. Never felt sick at any time. Cured!

The old English recipe is interesting and helpful but difficult without easy access to brass containers or bovine gall but could move us to examine more alternatives.

The above regimen worked for me, give it a try if you find yourself in need. I often go to earthclinic.com for ideas which is where I got the MRSA treatment info.

The tomato tea worked a treat for several colds - it's kind of like a fresh V8 that used to be found in US stores, but with lots of garlic and lemon juice.

Latte
All the ingredients you mention above was for external treatment only, correct? poutices and such, you took nothing orally? thx

[Franny]

I also took the oregano oil and fresh garlic internally and tried the turpentine a few times with molasses.

Latte
All the ingredients you mention above was for external treatment only, correct? poutices and such, you took nothing orally? thx

I did both :)