View Full Version : A real Photo of Hillary Clinton
uzn
20th November 2016, 13:21
I saw this Picture for a Brief Moment on the german site "Der Spiegel" before it was gone. It´s just on three sites in the Internet. It´s a rare unedited Picture of her after the lost Election. Usually you just get to see processed Pictures and Videos of her. There is a whole PR-Agency working on all Pictures and Output to paint a certain Picture.
http://www.pluska.sk/images/spravy/z-domova/clintonovej-trpke-priznanie-verejnosti-po-volbach-som-chcela-jedno/hillary-clinton628228.jpg
Thats how she really Looks.
Link:
http://www.pluska.sk/images/spravy/z-domova/clintonovej-trpke-priznanie-verejnosti-po-volbach-som-chcela-jedno/hillary-clinton628228.jpg
Marikins
20th November 2016, 16:39
This is a photo of a woman without professional makeup and hair. During the campaign she had to waste an hour every day on that while men don't. The cruel comments people heap upon her for looking her age is almost enough to soften my cold cold heart.
wondering
20th November 2016, 19:11
I am not a Hillary supporter, nor a Trump supporter, for that matter. But I really don't understand the intent behind posting a photo of someone for the purpose of ridiculing or belittling them. Or is there a purpose here that I missed? Nor should we be in the business of shaming people who show their humanness in unattractive ways. Aren't we striving to be better than this? On one level, EVERYBODY is the embodiment of the Creator, albeit taking a very different role than we might choose for ourselves in this moment. I feel my heart sink when I see snipey, nasty, sensationalized comments made... Is this unrealistic? I really don't see myself as a goody two shoes, so to speak, nor would my friends say that of me. But I don't need to come to PA for for a focus on negativity - we can all find that in so many other places.
Blacklight43
20th November 2016, 19:25
thank you wondering, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Whiskey_Mystic
20th November 2016, 19:30
We can do better than this.
uzn
20th November 2016, 19:42
The intend was to show the real deal, not the fabricated image people are used to. Maybe we should send her a little bit of love.
KiwiElf
20th November 2016, 20:11
Glad no-one has a picture of me when I first wake up in the morning! (Ain't PhotoShop wonderful?) ;)
Sunny-side-up
20th November 2016, 20:33
These are the harshest words you will find posted by me:
I do have to say, this real (Undoctored) image of her suites my view of her real personality, not a fairy queen but a cold hart-less witch.
I for one will so glad when we can all get away from her, but I don't think that will happen for a long time, what UFO-discloser-entanglement and all.
newswatcher
20th November 2016, 22:07
Dear Wondering - perhaps reading the book "Trance-Formation", an autobiography by Cathy O'Brien .. . .
wondering
20th November 2016, 22:31
newswatcher, I just checked out the book on Amazon...looks very heavy duty and probably life changing ...how do you think this would relate to the issue of unnecessary negativity in general? wondering
Kryztian
20th November 2016, 22:53
She's 69 years old and just had a pretty intense stressful year of campaigning. The picture is no surprise to me. Of course, she has to spend a lot of time every day getting coiffed and made up, and now that her plans for the presidency are over, she is probably just sick of all the work she has to do on her appearance.
I feel happy for her that she no longer needs to use all that make up to project another image. Now, if she can just stop pretended that she is not a corporatist war monger.
heather6thsense
20th November 2016, 23:13
I'm actually interested in the symbolic meaning of the ring she is wearing rather than anything else.
IRON CROSS (or Cross Pattée or EISERNES KREUZ): Adopted as the Iron Cross in Prussia. During the First World War, it appeared on German fighter planes and tanks. Later, it became a fascist symbol in France, Portugal and other nations. Compare it with Swastika 3.
Flash
21st November 2016, 01:51
Trump is as awful at 70, and without his toupet would be worst, he is fat and has small mouth etc etc. He is 70 for god sake, I forgive it because my family at that age do not look better although they do not dare wearing toupet.
Clinton is 69 or something. For god sake, she does not look that bad without make up, for a 69 years old woman.
But.... because she is a woman, she has to look 40 at the most at all times??? or what??? I do not like her no more than Trump by the way, however, those comments are really disgracious - no woman in her sixties has the right to look like she is in her sixties???
a late sixty women with make up and most probably botox
http://gvenny.com/images/hairstyle-for-women-over-60/hairstyle-for-women-over-60-98-15.jpg
This is a late sixty years old with bits of make up
http://blackhaireverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Simple-Short-Hairstyles-for-Women-Over-60.jpg
I saw this Picture for a Brief Moment on the german site "Der Spiegel" before it was gone. It´s just on three sites in the Internet. It´s a rare unedited Picture of her after the lost Election. Usually you just get to see processed Pictures and Videos of her. There is a whole PR-Agency working on all Pictures and Output to paint a certain Picture.
http://www.pluska.sk/images/spravy/z-domova/clintonovej-trpke-priznanie-verejnosti-po-volbach-som-chcela-jedno/hillary-clinton628228.jpg
Thats how she really Looks.
Link:
http://www.pluska.sk/images/spravy/z-domova/clintonovej-trpke-priznanie-verejnosti-po-volbach-som-chcela-jedno/hillary-clinton628228.jpg
Flash
21st November 2016, 01:59
This is the most interesting comment on that pic thanks heather6thsense. Aren't iron ring the trademark of very high level dark magicians?
I'm actually interested in the symbolic meaning of the ring she is wearing rather than anything else.
IRON CROSS (or Cross Pattée or EISERNES KREUZ): Adopted as the Iron Cross in Prussia. During the First World War, it appeared on German fighter planes and tanks. Later, it became a fascist symbol in France, Portugal and other nations. Compare it with Swastika 3.
Callista
21st November 2016, 02:01
Check out my latest post to see a 67 year-old woman without makeup :) No harm in being natural.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94632-Callista-and-Will-discuss-Life-After-the-Election
TargeT
21st November 2016, 02:21
I saw this Picture for a Brief Moment on the german site "Der Spiegel" before it was gone. It´s just on three sites in the Internet. It´s a rare unedited Picture of her after the lost Election. Usually you just get to see processed Pictures and Videos of her. There is a whole PR-Agency working on all Pictures and Output to paint a certain Picture.
Thats how she really Looks.
Link:
http://www.pluska.sk/images/spravy/z-domova/clintonovej-trpke-priznanie-verejnosti-po-volbach-som-chcela-jedno/hillary-clinton628228.jpg
Meh, I look like a hired mercenary, a Luddite, a Caveman, yet I'm not.
It's very attractive, even easier(!), to reach down, but far more beneficial to reach up in situations like this. If it's a logical fallacy (this would be Ad Hominem) it's never worth pursuing.
It's good to point out the manipulation, but in this sense not overly so.
thunder24
21st November 2016, 02:55
gotta understand america culture and perspective.... im not being negative or mean...however if hillary looked that way on camera all the time in flash's post, she would of got even less votes... You have to understand the mentality of Americas general populace that can vote... I am not saying she looks bad or good or that it matters to me, i am saying try to understand the people here are focused on looks and superficial ****
161803398
21st November 2016, 03:07
People are focused on appearance while children are starving to death in Yemen; perfectly civilized people are being threatened by head hunters in Syria; Libya still in Chaos; America bombing about 7 different countries (difficult to keep count)...there are no words adequate to say what I think about this.
TargeT
21st November 2016, 03:11
gotta understand america culture and perspective.... im not being negative or mean...however if hillary looked that way on camera all the time in flash's post, she would of got even less votes... You have to understand the mentality of Americas general populace that can vote... I am not saying she looks bad or good or that it matters to me, i am saying try to understand the people here are focused on looks and superficial ****
Very true, her image was heavily manipulated to garnish public support, support that would be missing with out it.
It's a good topic, us westerners are youth obsessed and female vanity has gone a bit out of control.
KiwiElf
21st November 2016, 03:14
But I guess no different from dressing ourselves up when we go out. Most of us want to look our best (or "better"), not our worst (or at least "OK") lest someone comments in the negative about our appearance, body odour etc. Even some animals/birds preen themselves to attract a mate. ;))
DNA
21st November 2016, 03:14
newswatcher, I just checked out the book on Amazon...looks very heavy duty and probably life changing ...how do you think this would relate to the issue of unnecessary negativity in general? wondering
This video is from like 95'.
I've never read the book, I've always meant to, but you get so much information from her conferences that it always felt like a moot point to me. Besides there is only so much one wants to and or can listen to this kind of thing.
I find Cathy O'Brian most credible, and as for myself I consider her to be truthfull and her information applicable when trying to figure out the "big picture".
In so far as it relates to Hillary, it really helps to understand what Cathy states, as it helps to solidify and cement the information presently given in the wikileaks documents as most likely very valid.
Cathy explains that the Neo-Cons put a plan in place that required automotan like human beings. Human beings who could be turned into robots to be exploited as operatives delivering information and secondly as sex slaves to the elite.
Cathy's stories of Gerald Ford and Dick Cheney are harrowing. Bordering on disbelief in terms of how evil these men are.
Cathy was an MK-ULTRA operative, Cathy experienced extreme physical abuse, psychological abuse and sexual abuse as a child, in the before mentioned men seemed rather happy to be a part of the abuse.
Cathy talked about being used by Hillary Clinton as an information agent and as a object of her carnal desires.
Cathy stated Gerald Ford made money and garnered influence by working with the mafia of the time in the child pornography and trafficking business.
Hillary Clinton has had recent allegations made about her having a long term relationship with Huma Abadin. Also the now connections with Jeffrey Epstien the Billionaire Pedophile and her Clintion Foundation having links to child trafficking are starting to now make sense given that she had connections with child traffickers within the Neo-Con administration before her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEBmEo4IA0
FvEBmEo4IA0
thunder24
21st November 2016, 03:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEBmEo4IA0
FvEBmEo4IA0
i understand why you would say this and i am fifty fifty when it comes to her info... but when mark takes land from you and say they will make you part of their corporation, and do not follow through, it is kind of hard to give credit or credence to what they say (just a new handler)... however that is off topic, but i will continue to speak it whenever mark or cathy are brought up....
Flash
21st November 2016, 04:19
gotta understand america culture and perspective.... im not being negative or mean...however if hillary looked that way on camera all the time in flash's post, she would of got even less votes... You have to understand the mentality of Americas general populace that can vote... I am not saying she looks bad or good or that it matters to me, i am saying try to understand the people here are focused on looks and superficial ****
I understand American psyche, about women having to look twice as good as any man their age, and believe me, it is worst in France for example. However, here here here, on Avalon, shouldn't we go further than skin thick? Even with Hilary, and in her case, there is quite a lot to say and search.
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But I guess no different from dressing ourselves up when we go out. Most of us want to look our best (or "better"), not our worst (or at least "OK") lest someone comments in the negative about our appearance, body odour etc. Even some animals/birds preen themselves to attract a mate. ;))
For God sake Kiwi, at 69, and billionnaire, I do not think she is there to attract a mate lolllllllllllll
Most women at that age do not care much about attracting a mate - and if they do, they certainly do not want those who only look for appearances, they would be losing from the start anyhow with this view. They usually look for much more substance.
And those that don't remain either alone or with real anybody that nobody else wanted. At this age, it is substance in men, not skin surface - unless they act like men and can afford 20 years younger. And yes, I mean wallet afford.
Dennis Leahy
21st November 2016, 05:52
The intend was to show the real deal, not the fabricated image people are used to. Maybe we should send her a little bit of love.You immediately got numerous comments that would be good to consider. It's not that we should send her a little bit of love, (snark or serious) - there is ample evidence of criminal behavior and psychopathic character, so we have plenty to say about her. But...
It's a reminder that when we are passionately angry at or disgusted with someone, we have to really watch how we present our material. it can come off as petty. I think she's at least an international criminal, having used the US State Department to sell influence. Maybe could be tried for treason. Books will be written about her corruption. Big books. So yeah, not even the photo so much as the snarky focus on her facade seems a petty angle to take. What else ya got? I'd like to see a timeline of her activities, a list of her crimes, an outline for one of those books...
KiwiElf
21st November 2016, 05:59
LOL Urrr no,... that isn't what I meant Flash - I used an extreme example there perhaps :o (just to attract a mate, that is :)) - I meant, "keeping up appearances" when we step outside, even just to go to the shops, or a job interview, or a picture of ourselves that other people might see, for whatever reason ;)
Let's face it, "image improvement" - it's been around us long before Photoshop. A good deal of the graphic design work we do is cleaning up images (of all things; packaging, cars, food, - you name it! (and yes "complimentary" retouching of people, scenery etc used in ads).
Whether we like it or not, most people perceive a great deal on the "first impressions" aspect of what they see. (Would we try and sell our car or house dirty & unvacuumed?). Yes, it can be kinda dishonest and it can go too far. But just about everyone does it to some degree. :)
Our former Prime Minister, Helen Clark used it to great effect. Just Google...
"helen clark"
And compare the images ;)
KiwiElf
21st November 2016, 06:08
In this (Hillary's) case, it's probably being done to show she's "honest" and "vulnerable" - the "real" Hillary (and TONS of people will fall for it!) ;)
Flash
21st November 2016, 06:10
In this (Hillary's) case, its probably being done to show she's "honest" and "vulnerable" - the "real" Hillary ;)
you bet, the poor older experienced lady - from which we might jus averted a 3rd world war!!!
161803398
21st November 2016, 06:23
I think the questions about the Clintons start here: W-XiIrk5mXY
KiwiElf
21st November 2016, 06:40
Here's a "quickie" using the image of the lady on the previous page (I'd spend a lot more time on it - this took 5 minutes). Most of the enhancement comes from whitening her teeth - not too much tho. Airbrushing and evening out the skin tones softens her wrinkles just as she would get applying a little make-up without going too far overboard. (Now if she were a politician, which image do you prefer? :)) More importantly, this is something this lady could "try at home" to realistically get that look - no Botox or plastic surgery required! ;)
Cardillac
21st November 2016, 17:45
too bad there's not a close-up of the ring on her right hand- she's reportedly a practicing satanist (she's obviously not a benevolent person)- I wonder if the ring might contain an image of her worshiping practices... am just wondering-
Larry
TargeT
21st November 2016, 18:20
LOL Urrr no,... that isn't what I meant Flash - I used an extreme example there perhaps :o (just to attract a mate, that is :)) - I meant, "keeping up appearances" when we step outside, even just to go to the shops, or a job interview, or a picture of ourselves that other people might see, for whatever reason ;)
Let's face it, "image improvement" - it's been around us long before Photoshop. A good deal of the graphic design work we do is cleaning up images (of all things; packaging, cars, food, - you name it! (and yes "complimentary" retouching of people, scenery etc used in ads).
Whether we like it or not, most people perceive a great deal on the "first impressions" aspect of what they see. (Would we try and sell our car or house dirty & unvacuumed?). Yes, it can be kinda dishonest and it can go too far. But just about everyone does it to some degree. :)
Our former Prime Minister, Helen Clark used it to great effect. Just Google...
"helen clark"
And compare the images ;)
Body image, sexuality & public perception is very important to a lot of women in my experience.
My mom (in her upper 60's who ironically, just got married again) often laments about how she misses "feeling like a women" but when she explains it it's not that, she misses being attractive to other people. She misses getting attention that she used to in her youth. She misses being recognized as a sexual being (even if she doesn't want to follow through with it). I've come to understand this as the balancing force to Male Aggression -- Female Vanity.
At the same time as she tells me these things she was house sitting a place with people working on it and had a strange joking / technically-sexual-assault relationship with one of the workers (of whom she repeatedly rebuffed attempts at a "sexual relationship"). So it's not even that she wants to be a sexual object, she handled the situation well but it clearly it was not what she wanted.
She wants attention from the right kind of people, on her terms; this would make her happier.. a form of co-dependence, perhaps this is rooted in survival technique but I can imagine that it's difficult to function with.
My wife has the same settlements, she's 42 now and I think she's beautiful & if I'm not looming in corner it seems to me like a lot of people are interested in her but she's concerned that (in my mind not as many) guys aren't hitting on her like they did before & the lack of attention hurts her, gives her a dread of "getting old" and she even now has started to second guess if she should be out "having fun" with the crowds we sometimes hang out with (usually 20 somethings).
So, with that understanding; I'm a bit cautious when it comes to this topic, it's a more sensitive topic than I really understand. (but then I don't understand the need for makeup either).
I don't think this ever truly goes away in women.
Flash
21st November 2016, 19:20
most people do want to look good in public yet some do not mind at all for any kind of look
Women stop being look at starting in their forties (my experience) and the slow motion away is very slow. It does take adjustments, the problem being that old women are not considered at all in our North American societies for their maturity, experience and wiseness accumulated through time. When women are considered for their wisdom, the need to be look at as sexual object becomes truly much less important, if important at all.
The funny thing is that in my case, I feel more like a woman, a sexual being, than ever, even if there is less admirers around. There is no more needs to think of the children one's raises, there is not more danger to get pregnant or having to get a mate who will be the father of your children, career is well on its climax if not over the curve (and not really missed, it is tougher for women in this career world), the feeling of freedom is extraordinary. And with it goes hand in hand creativity, not caring what others think, and wanting to do what ones want to do, including nice relationships without the lifelong constraints women are used to when having children and career and no time for themselves or anything else truly.
I do think that for men our age, when they are not hook on skin deep appearances, it makes for very good and free, creative and fulfilling relationship. Men that want much younger women (and have kids at 55 or 60) do not know what they are missing on. Women still hook on their appearance are also missing a lot without knowing it.
(the real shock is when someone - usually an immigrant because North American are not that well educated anylonger - gives you his seat in public transportation. Oh la la, what a shock, a male friend of mine and me were chatting about that and we both refused the seats, not wanting to be old lolllllllllllllll)
LOL Urrr no,... that isn't what I meant Flash - I used an extreme example there perhaps :o (just to attract a mate, that is :)) - I meant, "keeping up appearances" when we step outside, even just to go to the shops, or a job interview, or a picture of ourselves that other people might see, for whatever reason ;)
Let's face it, "image improvement" - it's been around us long before Photoshop. A good deal of the graphic design work we do is cleaning up images (of all things; packaging, cars, food, - you name it! (and yes "complimentary" retouching of people, scenery etc used in ads).
Whether we like it or not, most people perceive a great deal on the "first impressions" aspect of what they see. (Would we try and sell our car or house dirty & unvacuumed?). Yes, it can be kinda dishonest and it can go too far. But just about everyone does it to some degree. :)
Our former Prime Minister, Helen Clark used it to great effect. Just Google...
"helen clark"
And compare the images ;)
Body image, sexuality & public perception is very important to a lot of women in my experience.
My mom (in her upper 60's who ironically, just got married again) often laments about how she misses "feeling like a women" but when she explains it it's not that, she misses being attractive to other people. She misses getting attention that she used to in her youth. She misses being recognized as a sexual being (even if she doesn't want to follow through with it). I've come to understand this as the balancing force to Male Aggression -- Female Vanity.
At the same time as she tells me these things she was house sitting a place with people working on it and had a strange joking / technically-sexual-assault relationship with one of the workers (of whom she repeatedly rebuffed attempts at a "sexual relationship"). So it's not even that she wants to be a sexual object, she handled the situation well but it clearly it was not what she wanted.
She wants attention from the right kind of people, on her terms; this would make her happier.. a form of co-dependence, perhaps this is rooted in survival technique but I can imagine that it's difficult to function with.
My wife has the same settlements, she's 42 now and I think she's beautiful & if I'm not looming in corner it seems to me like a lot of people are interested in her but she's concerned that (in my mind not as many) guys aren't hitting on her like they did before & the lack of attention hurts her, gives her a dread of "getting old" and she even now has started to second guess if she should be out "having fun" with the crowds we sometimes hang out with (usually 20 somethings).
So, with that understanding; I'm a bit cautious when it comes to this topic, it's a more sensitive topic than I really understand. (but then I don't understand the need for makeup either).
I don't think this ever truly goes away in women.
Rhah
21st November 2016, 22:09
I'm actually interested in the symbolic meaning of the ring she is wearing rather than anything else.
IRON CROSS (or Cross Pattée or EISERNES KREUZ): Adopted as the Iron Cross in Prussia. During the First World War, it appeared on German fighter planes and tanks. Later, it became a fascist symbol in France, Portugal and other nations. Compare it with Swastika 3.
Very interesting Heather! Great eye ;) Thank you.
Rather than her ring, though, my eyes were instantly drawn to her watch. It greatly reminded me of the following symbol:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bf/70/ba/bf70ba024e867c0a72789d656d9188ca.jpg
I could swear that I've read that the above illustration (or a version of it, anyway) was adapted by an occult organization as their symbol, though I cannot for the life of me remember which one. I'm flipping through some books right now to see if I can find it but unfortunately I've had no luck so far. I was thinking Tracy Twyman mentioned it in one of her books but I guess I must be mistaken. Perhaps a fellow Avalonian knows what I'm talking about?
EDIT: This is the symbol I was talking about
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/60/0a/28/600a28775e5bb754b02a9e8bd3eb9313.jpg
Still none the wiser as to what it's from though. But I remember the 13 stars being of some significance.
Wizard Of Ozark
21st November 2016, 23:28
Seriously? I lurk here a lot without posting much. Voted for Stein. Still had to log in to suggest kindly that maybe this is getting to tabloid-level journalism. She looks the same as she's always looked to me. Please don't dilute this fine site with nonsense. Of course her handlers/team try to present her as positively as possible! No offense intended, but this seems a little silly to me in lieu of all the very important issues we have facing us.
Wizard Of Ozark
21st November 2016, 23:41
I think I do however understand the thinking behind the pic you posted of Hillary. But more than images that show HRC looking her age, it's images like the following that TRULY scare me! :scared::bigsmile:
http://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/donald-hillary-800.jpg
Fellow Aspirant
22nd November 2016, 04:19
Well said. This is the epitome of the "imagist" double standard. VERY disappointing.
B.
I am not a Hillary supporter, nor a Trump supporter, for that matter. But I really don't understand the intent behind posting a photo of someone for the purpose of ridiculing or belittling them. Or is there a purpose here that I missed? Nor should we be in the business of shaming people who show their humanness in unattractive ways. Aren't we striving to be better than this? On one level, EVERYBODY is the embodiment of the Creator, albeit taking a very different role than we might choose for ourselves in this moment. I feel my heart sink when I see snipey, nasty, sensationalized comments made... Is this unrealistic? I really don't see myself as a goody two shoes, so to speak, nor would my friends say that of me. But I don't need to come to PA for for a focus on negativity - we can all find that in so many other places.
Flash
22nd November 2016, 05:22
i googled hillary clinton's ring and look what i found. She has many many very pretty rings amongst which:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Cynnabar_ring_for_Hillary_Clinton_1992_inaugural_ball.jpg
iron and gold
http://soopermexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hillary-clinton-ring.jpg
Flash
22nd November 2016, 05:36
one of Obama's ring:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq9etnjfoW1qm29os.png
there is tons of pics of his habitual ring which are folded snakes, many describing arabic writing with it but it ain't... some even describe a mashalla which it is not.
Flash
22nd November 2016, 05:45
Trump wears no ring and I could retire by selling one of Milania's ring.
Billy
22nd November 2016, 16:50
too bad there's not a close-up of the ring on her right hand- she's reportedly a practicing satanist (she's obviously not a benevolent person)- I wonder if the ring might contain an image of her worshiping practices... am just wondering-
Larry
The ring looks more like templer crosses to me.
34624
Definitely a masonic ring here.
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uzn
22nd November 2016, 18:51
Thanks Billy, refering to the Picture you posted.
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I hope you all noticed the upsidedown (because of the viewing angle) Death Scull in the Masonic Ring of Hillary. I have never seen a Scull inside the Masonic Square and Circle, G yes, the Eye yes but never a Scull. And this Ring has the same Crosses under the Symbol as the one in the Picture I stared the Thread with.
TargeT
22nd November 2016, 19:02
Thanks Billy, refering to the Picture you posted.
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I hope you all noticed the upsidedown (because of the viewing angle) Death Scull in the Masonic Ring of Hillary. I have never seen a Scull inside the Masonic Square and Circle, G yes, the Eye yes but never a Scull.
is it just me or does that photo look a bit photochopped? why is that bigass ring OVER the other ring? why does it look like that mason **** was added on top of the large diamond? Why does the Masonic ring have the wrong shading, the wrong shadows (ie no shadows).. Why is the masonic ring CLEARLY a cast piece that is very very low quality (not something a millionaire normally would choose)......this looks fake as hell to me.
do we have any other corroborating photos?
Color me skeptical.
The photo of the band of crosses and large diamond ring looks legit, the other is highly suspect IMO.
uzn
22nd November 2016, 19:17
Yeah TargeT, thought the same, The Picture Flash posted is the source.
From Flashs post:
http://soopermexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hillary-clinton-ring.jpg[/QUOTE]
Update
Did a quick search and TargeT you are right, I found the Original Photo, The one posted by Flash is a Photoshop Collage:
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Ist the same Ring as in the first Picture in the Thread. Its her Engagement Ring.
TargeT
22nd November 2016, 19:29
Yeah TargeT, first I thought the same, but it seems to be a not so professional Blowup. The Picture Flash posted is the original and there it Looks better.
From Flashs post:
http://soopermexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hillary-clinton-ring.jpg
Also it might be that the crosses are one Ring and she is wearing two rings next to each other. See first Pic in the thread.
A ring with that big of a front would not have a skinny supportive band, it would have a nice thick one (I've seen plenty of rings like that before in comic book shops, they are "cast" which means molten metal is poured into a mold, it's a cheap way to make things but you cannot have a thin band and a large face with that type of manufacturing).
Look at the "diamond crosses" band and its placement on her finger compared to the knuckles, there's literally no room left (except for that thin banned diamond setting ring). The top of the ring is off her finger and onto her palm, I can't even imagine where the band would be for that ring. Plus the lighting on the hand and the ring are different (but not the ring with the diamond crosses, it's lit correctly).
I'm not an expert, but I've done a lot of image analysis before, this just looks wrong (blown up or not).
Update
Did a quick search and TargeT you are right, I found the Original Photo, The one posted by Flash is a Photoshop Collage:
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Now that picture looks legit ;)
uzn
22nd November 2016, 19:32
Target look in my last Post, I updated it. Its Fake!
newswatcher
23rd November 2016, 01:13
newswatcher, I just checked out the book on Amazon...looks very heavy duty and probably life changing ...how do you think this would relate to the issue of unnecessary negativity in general? wondering
Wondering>
The book itself demonstrates some of the horrid and unimaginable evil the elite are involved in. She and her husband are in this up to their ears. That book doesn't even talk about the trail of dead bodies left behind. If Satan has a sister, I know who she is; I wouldn't be overly concerned about negativism in a case like this; it is what it is and we need to stare it down, not turn away from it. I don't believe we need to live constantly in a negative space, but I won't turn away from this until it is eradicated. We must not be afraid and/or worried about political correctness in a case like this.
Wizard Of Ozark
23rd November 2016, 01:51
Sorry... didn't feel like posting what I did. Not sure how to delete.
ThePythonicCow
23rd November 2016, 03:25
Sorry... didn't feel like posting what I did. Not sure how to delete.
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CurEus
23rd November 2016, 04:08
Politicians, actors, products and many others are specifically groomed for the camera. We will often see pictures of celebrities without makeup and we are all very familiar that advertisements for products, goods and services rarely withstand the scrutiny of the LIGHT of day. Does ANYTHING look like the picture on the box or in the magazine?
I have no problem looking at an image without special lighting, make-up, colour enhancements, filters, photoshop and photographic trickery but Clinton's bare face this week seems to be nothing more than ANOTHER form of manipulation.
All of this be it make up, hair, clothing or whatever is by its VERY nature manipulation...rosy cheeks, red lips add sensuality and health...deep wounds and scars for zombies indicate hurt., bespoke suits and clothing evoke fitness....none are "true"...yet we apparently have been "enhancing" ourselves since time immemorial. Some are better at it than others, other must pay much more in times/money/expertise to look "human".
In fairness neither Trump nor Clinton look anything like they should or actually do. in person.
KiwiElf
23rd November 2016, 05:09
Photochopped - love it :) (coming from one who does a lot of Photochopping! ;)
newswatcher
23rd November 2016, 05:20
newswatcher, I just checked out the book on Amazon...looks very heavy duty and probably life changing ...how do you think this would relate to the issue of unnecessary negativity in general? wondering
The book outlines outrageous practices and extreme misuse and abuse of people, an annihilation of their victims dignity, total destruction of their personna. It's as evil as it gets. And this lady, her husband and their friends are all in up to their ears in this stuff. She seems untouchable. I'm not fixated on the negative or the evil for its own sake, but people have to be made clearly aware of what goes on in high places and with the people we trust. Actions taken to change things are borne from becoming informed which is what is happening all around the world. We have to put the evil and negative on the table for all to see, and in that way we are empowered to move forward to change things. Disseminating information is key. And if Satan has a sister, I know who it is. IF all this was common knowledge, she would be in jail and would never have garnered any votes if she was still running for office while such offenses were a black cloud over her head. How many would vote for her if they knew what her life has been - it has been carefully carpeted over by the MSM. She nearly became President!
TargeT
23rd November 2016, 13:26
Photochopped - love it :) (coming from one who does a lot of Photochopping! ;)
I think the term is still finding it's full definition,
I only use it for BADLY done image alteration, like with MS paint or something.
for example:
"That ring was clearly photochopped (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Photochop)"
KiwiElf
23rd November 2016, 15:02
It's actually quite accurate, TargeT (...I was cracking up at the term :)) - we often have to "chop" (cut) stuff from one or more image(s) and paste (ahem.. "blend") them into another master image - a "composite". Done well, it can be very convincing ;). It's very much a similar process with green screen in movies/video.
(Also darned difficult at times to ascertain if an image is faked or not - aka the numerous UFO vids around these days... and Hillary's ring!) :)
TargeT
23rd November 2016, 19:29
It's actually quite accurate, TargeT (...I was cracking up at the term :)) - we often have to "chop" (cut) stuff from one or more image(s) and paste (ahem.. "blend") them into another master image - a "composite". Done well, it can be very convincing ;). It's very much a similar process with green screen in movies/video.
(Also darned difficult at times to ascertain if an image is faked or not - aka the numerous UFO vids around these days... and Hillary's ring!) :)
Still imagery is difficult to tell when worked on properly yea, luckily video is still "somewhat" easy to spot, but soon I think even live video will be easily manipulated..
And now that you can "photoshop" audio (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/adobe-voco-photoshop-for-audio-speech-editing/)... soon even video evidence will be suspect :(
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uzn
23rd November 2016, 21:05
http://www.30ansoupresque.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/madonna-photoshop-plastic-surgery-cream.jpg
;)
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