Xcuse My Ignorance, Why is it up to U.S.A. to Disclose?

[Gillian]

Is there some global political reason why disclosure must come from the U.S.A.? The majority of countries seem to be accepting of the ET thing. Why can't disclosure happen in Canada? or England?

I can see that if it comes from America, disclosure might be deemed more credible.

Please, somebody explain!

I am aware of the consequences of disclosure; the devastation it could cause millions of Americans; the shock. Having space debris fall out of the sky onto one's town is equally catastrophic. I think that there has been plenty of soft disclosure and full disclosure should be delivered suddenly, like that debris falling from space, and then humanity can get on with its recovery from the news.

If there is really an ascension process happening, surely disclosure will help millions evolve quickly so that we can all move on. Being tenderhearted seems to be prolonging humanity's ability to progress.

[ExomatrixTV]

~would not mind if Russia will initiate full Alien & UFO Disclosure!

[Gillian]

I too would be happy if Russia were to lead on this. Anybody, anybody. We don't need the U.S. to get this done.

[greybeard]

Yes Gillian I suspect most people believe in aliens ---not so sure they believe that there has been contact with governments.
With me its a may be so--the "evidence" seems to be repeated hearsay.

Chris

[chancy]

Is there some global political reason why disclosure must come from the U.S.A.? The majority of countries seem to be accepting of the ET thing. Why can't disclosure happen in Canada? or England?

I can see that if it comes from America, disclosure might be deemed more credible.

Please, somebody explain!

I am aware of the consequences of disclosure; the devastation it could cause millions of Americans; the shock. Having space debris fall out of the sky onto one's town is equally catastrophic. I think that there has been plenty of soft disclosure and full disclosure should be delivered suddenly, like that debris falling from space, and then humanity can get on with its recovery from the news.

If there is really an ascension process happening, surely disclosure will help millions evolve quickly so that we can all move on. Being tenderhearted seems to be prolonging humanity's ability to progress.



Hello Everyone:
WHY does a government need to give disclosure?
WHY is everyone stuck on the fact that they need the president of some country to stand up and say something like "Extraterrestrials are real! We have signed agreements with many different planets. We just wanted you to know this."

I find this laughable since too many great men have given us this information as whistleblowers and even their lives for this knowledge and you still don't believe!
I am not going to give all the people that have given disclosure but I will say I don't believe this information is even given to the acting president of the usa. I think his clearance isn't high enough. ( Just read and you will come to the same conclusion)

Here is a couple of youtube videos to wet your mouth in order to get you started on the belief that disclosure has already happened!

Ben Rich head of Skunkworks Lockheed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZfaFUeK8w


MUFON International Director Jan Harzan with personal experience with Ben Rich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9ZZekWMiUQ


IF there is no "ET.s" why would we want to take ET home?
IF there is no alien planets with people what would be the point to travel to where ET is from?
IF there is no agreements with other planets why would our technology come ahead in less than 100 years to the point of miraculous?

It's impossible to not believe that we are having help. It's impossible to believe that we are the only planet of humans in the vast universe.

IF this isn't true then you must also believe that humans are polluting the whoe planet with C02 and we must pay forever giving cash to any organization who sitcks out their hand when in actuality we as humans only produce around 4% of the worlds C02.
( PS watch Piers Corbyn and get his take on climate. )

chancy

[Gillian]

I am a subscriber to SuspiciousOberservers and Ben has educated me well. I am not certain if I have heard Piers Corbyn, but I have certainly watched many SuspiciousObservers' daily news reports, over the years, and am familiar with the climate-thing and because I am not a scientist with expensive instruments so that I can perform my own tests, I have had to be content with data presented to me by people like Ben and the opposing camp and have chosen to agree with Ben that climate problems are a solar event. I also agree with him that this is no excuse for not cleaning up our mess. I pick up litter and other peoples' dog poop most days, when I walk my own dogs. It is only a small bit. I try and compost, recycle, drive a fuel efficient car as infrequently as possible, use my own shopping bags, shy away from chemical cleaners, and most of what I eat is organic and ethically harvested and some of it is even grown in my garden. I have also had many "letters to the editor" published in local papers asking people to manage their litter better, pick up after their dogs or join the mentality of those who think that oil spills are okay and teach young children to manage their candy wrappers, and for awhile, I was quite busy with the DumbMeter issue, which I am opposed to.

But this business of disclosure; people talk about it; demand it; complain about the lack of it. So why do we need a government to stand up and tell us what is really going on? Why can't most of us who are at least certain that there is a ET presence, do the disclosure? Or if it takes a person on a throne to make the masses believe, get a government that is willing, do the telling.

The excuse I have heard is fear of what will happen in the ignorant segment of the population. But is it any worse than Christian missionaries forcing themselves on non-Christian cultures, telling them that they sin by worshiping gods that are considered pagan, and killing anybody who doesn't convert to Christianity? To disclose might be a bit of karma for many who have been cruel to others who would not follow the Christian creed.

What I see is a large populace that is stuck in ignorance and not evolving and I for one, would like to see more of humanity grasping the ET truth and I am certain this would promote evolution of the human race into something better. And please don't come after me for thinking that the human race could improve itself, because I think that this is true.

[Bubu]

maybe because they need to explain how they cover it up. And besides they own the media.

[lucidity]

Too late... wikileaks gave us disclosure with the Podesta emails (see batch #19).

But there was already a 'drip-feed' strategy for disclosure already in process ...
eg... various countries have already released their UFO files (UK, France, Brazil, Italy.. etc)

The Podesta emails basically constitute an admission that yes, aliens exist and
yes, the US government is talking to them... And so too.. apparently ...is the Vatican.

The bit about them being telepathic and abducting people and harvesting
their sexual fluids (eggs, sperm)
... and...
the bit about them stealing horses and cows... and sucking out all their blood...
(these are vampire aliens afterall)
...... you're probably not going to hear about that in a presidential address.

but.....
the bit where they slowly build up a population of human-alien hybrids, living amongst
us.... so that, when the time is right, they can cull the bulk of the native humans and
replace them with our more _controllable_ hybrid cousins...
...
... you might hear about that, one day... during a presidential address.
S/he will probably be explaining that the current 'depopulation measures' were
necessary because of the 'environmental crisis'...
.. but in any case, don't worry about it... go about your busy lives as normal.

The lives of our grandparents were so much simpler.
They never had 'true' tales of their leaders engaging in satanic rituals and child sex abuse.
We're living in a science fiction horror movie... where the monsters are real.

[Yetti]

It is because the cover up thing that is so difficult to say the truth for the conspirators, and the other country's are to the neck in the same business, because ALL IS CONNECTED . IF THEY OPEN A TINNY CAN OF WORMS THEY'LL NEED TO OPEN THE DOORS FOR THE WHOLE LANDFILL !

[newswatcher]

Yes Gillian I suspect most people believe in aliens ---not so sure they believe that there has been contact with governments.
With me its a may be so--the "evidence" seems to be repeated hearsay.

Chris
Hi Graybeard - just found a website/video (nearly two hours) but guaranteed interesting if you haven't viewed/heard it before. A presentation at the prestigious National Press Club in Washington, DC. by the people in the Disclosure Project (with Dr. Steven Greer). Lots of highly credible first hand testimony presented here. It's a good place to start for those not convinced of the ET existence and presence.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkswXVmG4xM. All the best.

[bogeyman]

Disclosure officially isn't going to happen, there are way too many variables, the population in the US is volatile, unpredictable, and some are armed. It is a divided nation on many levels, we cannot get on with our own species let alone anything from out there. More will come unofficially, but it gets mixed up with all the rubbish that is in the public domain so the truth of it can is twisted, added to or just plain absorbed and disappears into the abyss.

[marique3652]

It is because the cover up thing that is so difficult to say the truth for the conspirators, and the other country's are to the neck in the same business, because ALL IS CONNECTED . IF THEY OPEN A TINNY CAN OF WORMS THEY'LL NEED TO OPEN THE DOORS FOR THE WHOLE LANDFILL !

Well said...could not have said it any better or as creatively!

[Kryztian]

This USA is the biggest military power (by far) on the planet, it is the home to the world's largest media and news reporting companies, and it is probably the most involved in the secret space program / break away civilization. You don't want to p#ss it off! Because if you do....

- US intelligence agencies will suddenly release to the media info from their version of COINTELPRO files, revealing corruption in the government and principal leaders (either real revealed stories, or if nothing real is available, these stories will be manufactured), especially on those leaders who are involved with the disclosure.

- many orders for principal exported goods will suddenly be canceled. Excuses to impose trade embargoes will suddenly occur by the G8 nations. Meanwhile, men with violin cases from the World Bank will arrive demanding advance payments on the loans they tricked you into taking with threats to down grade your nation's credit rating. Your national currency will plunge as the nation is suddenly flooded by counterfeit currency

- opposition political parties will suddenly find themselves very well financed and the Generals who daily contemplate a military coup will be getting lots of moral support from their CIA contacts

- a group of violent radical extremists from that country will suddenly be the subject of Western media coverage, except they will be portrayed as oppressed people and given a name like "the Freedom Fighters".

Are you really sure you want to beat the U.S.A. to the punch on disclosure???

[Sequoia]

I thought it was because the US claimed First Contact in 1947, and due to this, America claimed the right to be the ambassadors of Earth, all other countries were gullible and tired from war and, naturally agreed, the US after all was the superpower with technological know-how and manpower.
The lulu is that the US didn't have the First Contact, Germany did years before, and is kept a secret -> Nazi Germany aerospace program and their reversed engineered craft are not so secret any longer and hopefully people demand the whole truth about what historically happened during the years between WWI and II.

[KiwiElf]

Real first contact may be much earlier than that *thinking... pyramids and even sooner* ;)
Oddly enough, the UK and USA are almost the only major countries who haven't disclosed; eg Chile did it back in the late 90's

(but then I don't need a country's leader to confirm what we already know :))

The problem might be our own reverse engineered technology and revealing that "officially" - ie S4, Area 51, Pine Gap - as has been said, "a can of worms":

At what cost? (the going estimate for all the DUMBs alone is $60 trillion)
How many lives taken to keep it secret?
Where could planet Earth be now if that technology was publicy available before we took the path to use oil as the #1 fuel?

[Justplain]

In this video, Richard Dolan eloquently explains why disclosure wont voluntarily come from the American powers that be:

buNCOlB-HeM

The reasons are fairly straight forward:

- tptb dont want to lose their privileged economic position supported by oil money and exclusive access to phenomenal ET tech
- tptb would be exposed for their criminal financial dealings
- tptb would be exposed for their criminal narcotics dealings
- governments and corporations could be sued for illegal activities, such as unfair trade practices for having exclusive access to ET tech or for unsavory government treaties with ETs
- Society would have a major head stretching exercise to learn to accomodate ET presence, with all its complex implications
- etc.

Richard believes that ET presence is the major factor behind the huge amount of missing money in the american military budget, stolen money, that is being used to finance the secret space program. Its also behind the deep government that ruins our freedom by controlling elections, the media and government spy agencies. Criminal financial fraud and government involvement in drug trafficing, etc. are also symptoms of this.

A social change in consciousness is necessary for the public to recognize the problem and eventually force disclosure.

[KiwiElf]

Despite the recent date, this video may have been posted earlier - or a variation of it; but still relevant to this thread:


Zero Point Classified Anti Gravity Craft UFO Full Documentary by James Allen R I P
Chris Potter (Mirrored)

Published on Oct 29, 2016


How are the governments installing and maintaining all this gigantic equipment in outer space.
This video provides some very important insights into who,what,when,where and how.
The creative director behind this amazing documentary is dead.

He was killed in a very similar fashion as Dr. Robert Harrington who tracked Planet X Nibiru for the US government and met with Zachariah Sitchin instigating his death shortly thereafter.

A02hFfRqigM

[ceetee9]

Is there some global political reason why disclosure must come from the U.S.A.? The majority of countries seem to be accepting of the ET thing. Why can't disclosure happen in Canada? or England?

I can see that if it comes from America, disclosure might be deemed more credible.

Please, somebody explain!

I am aware of the consequences of disclosure; the devastation it could cause millions of Americans; the shock. Having space debris fall out of the sky onto one's town is equally catastrophic. I think that there has been plenty of soft disclosure and full disclosure should be delivered suddenly, like that debris falling from space, and then humanity can get on with its recovery from the news.

If there is really an ascension process happening, surely disclosure will help millions evolve quickly so that we can all move on. Being tenderhearted seems to be prolonging humanity's ability to progress.
It isn't up to the USA to disclose the ET situation and the US government is not likely to disclose anytime soon, IMO. And the only global political reason (that I can think of at the moment) why other countries may be waiting for disclosure to come from the US first is to avoid any possible sanctions or retaliation from the US government if they were to disclose first.

Regardless, I think it's sad that, after many decades of countless credible eyewitness testimonies from within and without governments and photos and videos from around the world and even laboratory tested physical evidence, still the majority of people on this planet—many of whom who claim to not trust their government—still require government acknowledgement that we have been, and are being visited, by extraterrestrials (and, probably, extradimensionals and time travelers as well). I'm not sure if that's an indication that those who feel the need for government to tell them that ETs exist are just too lazy or too scared to do the research themselves, or if they just claim they don't trust their government but, deep down inside, they still need an authority figure to tell them what to think, how, and when.

In my opinion, however, the primary reason why no government has “officially” come forward on the ET issue has little to nothing to do with their “heartfelt concern” for how it will affect their serfs (i.e., the public) and everything to do with upending the global power and control structure that the-powers-that-be have enslaved us under for decades (and likely hundreds of years). Once that cat is let out of the bag, the public would have irrefutable proof that their governments cannot be trusted (because they have lied to them for at least 70 years or more). Further, they would know that they had been robbed their entire life by working hard to pay for fossil fuels that were unnecessary, medical treatments and drugs that could have been eliminated, transportation technologies that didn't require massive infrastructure to sustain, taxes to pay for environmental clean up of pollution that wouldn't have happened if they told us the truth in the first place, and, most likely, monetary, military, and governmental systems and more that weren't needed to survive in peace and harmony with each other and the environment.

Clearly, there would be many “inconvenient” questions that the government and the billion/trillion dollar industries would not like asked. ET didn't get here using fossil fuels, solar, wind or nuclear fuels. Zero point energy is a reality and ET uses it and the government knows it. Without question ET would have medical knowledge far beyond what our “there's no money in prevention and cures” medical and pharmaceutical industries have (or are willing to admit). And, obviously, ETs have transportation technologies hundreds (if not thousands or millions) of years in advance of ours. We would no longer need roads and bridges and gas guzzling automobiles to get around, nor would we need planet polluting coal, gas, or nuclear power plants (or wind turbine and hydro-electric plants) to power the world. I'm sure they would also have technologies that would enable us to feed all of our 7.5 billion inhabitants and who knows what other fantastic technologies they would have that would make life easier and better for everyone on this planet.

However, the big question that I (and many others) have is: are ETs benevolent or malevolent beings? My personal opinion is that there are both types. I believe Earth is a microcosm of what is out there—including the multiverse. I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that, as some have suggested, civilizations that don't outgrow their adolescent fighting and waring ways will destroy themselves or be destroyed by more advanced civilizations before they begin to export their predatory behavior to other worlds. I sincerely hope that that is the case, but, I'm not holding my breath—if planet Earth is any indication—and I hope we wise up very soon before we become one of those extinct civilizations. The one argument that I've heard that, perhaps, does support the notion that all spacefaring civilizations are benevolent, as Dr. Steve Greer claims, is that “if they were malevolent we wouldn't be here.” I sincerely hope he is right.

[Lancet]

Just wanna chip in:

Disclosure needs to come from countries with conventional space assets because full disclosure is principally aimed at a conventional and global unawakened audience. There are only a handful of countries with space assets (USA, Russia, China, ?Japan,?UK).

IMO, disclosure needs to happen because space is being or will be weaponised, and Carol Roisin calls for countries to sign a treaty banning weapons in space. She gave a talk in the SSP conference on that issue. It is an urgent issue.

Disclosure will happen only if the TPTB wants it to go foward. I think right now, disclosure might be a toss between what is being discussed ( as in Podesta/Hillary/Obama/Pentagon) and the false flag Alien Invasion. Either way the world will know we are not alone. The key to this is how disclosure will serve their interests. Some in the alternative media say that the ET/Aliens have give a deadline for disclosure, and it will forced should our governments not voluntarily do it. So maybe a voluntary disclosure may let the TPTB control the afteamath of disclosure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqE_0yWrdE

[Gillian]

What a pity, for people like those who belong to this forum! Without disclosure, the majority of humans will not advance. Sad!

[Justplain]

What a pity, for people like those who belong to this forum! Without disclosure, the majority of humans will not advance. Sad!

Hi Gillian, i dont think this is the case. Humans advance based upon how they utilize their lives to enhance their consciousness. This is done regardless of whether they are aware of little green men. People have progressed for eons without disclosure.

Now, its likely people could progress faster being aware that ETIs exist. Also, disclosure would possibly make it easier to deal with group efforts to contain/eliminate abductions/animal mutilations/etc. Also, if there are benevolent ETIs, perhaps they can help us design defenses to negative ETIs and/or interdimensionals and/or other entities present on earth.

[Tangri]

Too late... wikileaks gave us disclosure with the Podesta emails (see batch #19).



The Podesta emails basically constitute an admission that yes, aliens exist and
yes, the US government is talking to them... And so too.. apparently ...is the Vatican.

The bit about them being telepathic and abducting people and harvesting
their sexual fluids (eggs, sperm)
... and...
the bit about them stealing horses and cows... and sucking out all their blood...
(these are vampire aliens afterall)
...... you're probably not going to hear about that in a presidential address.



Could you give us as a complimentary which dated e mail did mention(disclosed) ALF?

There are 12.000 email at that batch-19.


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