Where do you turn for help? (not to offend, but I don't mean prayer)

[Patient]

There are so many accounts of people seeing UFO's, having contact experience, etc., but I have not seen where a person can turn to in order to get help to deal with contact. For some people it can be a terrifying ordeal.

I understand that researching a topic helps one to understand the situation better. But what about the person that doesn't have the experience of research but only the experience of the terrifying ordeal? How do we help them?

[JimM]

Contact Mufon... you can google them.

[thepainterdoug]

try this website https://www.facebook.com/groups/FREE.Experiencers/

[OMG]

UFO's and aliens are a social taboo topic and until disclosure happens there aren't many final solutions for contactees. However, you can look into the following.

1. Make sure you don't have any physiological or psychological problems that could account for hallucinations or other problems which would contribute to a false belief in such an experience. Such as a brain tumor, family history of mental illness, etc.
2. Find a contactee support group in person or online and talk about the experiences.
3. Go to a psychiatrist to talk about the experiences in confindence.
4. Contact MUFON of some other investigating organization or person.
5. Find a spiritual path that can help with overcoming fear and provide possible protection methods not covered by secular paradigms.

Hope this helps and wishing you the very best!

:)

[DNA]

Do not contact Mufon or any other group affiliation. They are not interested in helping you, they are only interested in hearing the account, and most of these groups are infiltrated by various alphabet agencies.
In all honesty, if talking about it helps, I suppose you can find a group of like minded folks here on the forum, but there is no "cure", there is very little that can be done, and when Karla Turner was asked "how can one learn more about their abduction situation?" Karla Turner answered bluntly "I'm not sure you should, in all honesty unless the situation is causing psychosis and or you just can't leave it alone for some reason it is quite possible you should leave well enough alone and not dig into the situation".
And Karla Turner would know in my opinion.
Corey Goode used to post on this forum, and his suggestion was a Christian solution, he would pray to Jesus Christ to intercede on his behalf, and although I have no idea if it would work, I do not think it hurts to try.

[AutumnW]

What DNA said, The more one researches contact phenomenon, the more they can be pulled into a hall of mirrors, or pulled down a rabbit hole of confusion.

Those who have had an anomalous experience should do their utmost to distract themselves. My own theory based on my own weird experiences, is that the mind itself, provides the conduit that ushers 'some' of these beings into our 3 dimensional space. It's like we are the wormholes we have been searching for.

[OMG]

There are good people involved but I tend to agree that contactIng MUFON (or other organizations) will bring you to the attention of a three letter agency. Of course if your experiences are negative chances are they already know about it OR are part of it.

I will say that a MUFON state director says that there is significant evidence that calling on the name of Jesus prevents certain abductions, etc.

BOC7K3L86TM

[Patient]

Thanks to everyone for the response. I was hoping there was something that I was missing but it seems that perhaps I understand this topic more than I give myself credit for. At least with people like yourselves there ready to respond so quickly, this is actually more support than you might find for other things in life.

I have been running up and down the rabbit hole for some time in my life, but things haves moved to a new level as I am now beginning to experience the fears of a parent - that familiar story where your kids are also being observed. For a while I thought that I would not live through that. It is one of those things where it is just a story until it actually happens to you.

But I am stronger knowing that there are people here on Avalon that I can turn to for support and feedback - thank you for being here. And Bill if you read this - a special thank you to you for all of your work and efforts that you have put forth - without his site who knows where I would be right now.(and I have probably seen every Camelot video ever made - that is available to me anyway ;) thanks again everyone!

[Patient]

And just to head off some responses and questions; I have kept things pretty close to my chest when it comes to my kids. I am confident that this is not a case of a child emulating their parent.

What has actually happened here is that I am again having things shown to me that I have not made this up in my head or whatever. I would guess that some of you, no matter what you experience or how many times you do, there will always be some doubt in your mind - did this really happen? Now, for me, I have another person in my life come out and prove to me that I did experience what I did. It brings it right back to the forefront of your mind. But now at least I know some things to help my child deal with this. Oh yeah its sucks!! And makes me angry - but what is a person to do. Maybe I will make a special "no trespassing" sign for my kids. (Gotta keep a smile going on! There is strength there!)

[Kryztian]

Some places I have found in my area (New Jersey, USA) where I have found other like minded people

1) the MUFON conference in Philadelphia - (a this point, MUFON is no more likely to be infiltrated and operating in surveillance mode than any other organization, remember the NSA (even if you are not in the USA) already has lots of information on you so the Powers That Be do not need MUFON or any other one organization to spy on you.)
2) a group called FRINGE New Jersey - it puts on 2 conferences a year concerning the paranormal and has monthly meetings. Best of all, we meet at a diner afterwards which is a great opportunity for socializing.
3) A local bookstore specializing in the paranormal.
4) New age bookstores and other centers that have workshop on Reiki, Astrology, etc. These people tend to be very open minded and some of them have experiences and can point you in the right direction.
5) Once you find some of these local groups, you may also find they have online groups on Facebook, etc. A great opportunity to network with people in between meetings.

It's important to meet others who have had similar experiences. You may find others who have had experiences you find hard to believe, and while one should always ponder all these stories, including your own, critically, it's always important to be a polite listener.

On my own path, I will say that my opinion of "what's out there" and "what's true" has evolved a lot, and I know that what I believe today may be very different from what I believe a year from now.

[Sunny-side-up]

As DNA said

Do not contact Mufon or any other group affiliation. They are not interested in helping you, they are only interested in hearing the account, and most of these groups are infiltrated by various alphabet agencies.
You would be helping them take down any good ET's/Craft :(

Talking here with Avalonians is a good start, many here have great info and contacts in the subject.

[Justplain]

I was, and likely still am, being harvested by some greys. They were sucking some fluid out of my knee which hurt like hell and i awoke in a dreamstate to see this light blueish grey leaning over my leg, it then gave a squeal while reaching forward and i blacked out again. The triangular scars they've left on my legs and needle holes they've left on my genitals are not dreamlike, quite real.

I havent really found a way to stop this. They seem to let me alone while i am awake. I dont know what the karmic implications of this are, like did i do something at another time that i am paying for now?

I also have concern for my child. They just dont seem to interfere too much with our awake functioning. I would worry more but no harm seems evident. Goodness only knows how much better off we'd be without this interference.

It appears we can live normal lives though being abused in our sleep. It doesnt seem fair but the higher realms, like our spirit guides, dont seem to want to intercede, so i just have to accept it and fight it when i can. And life goes on.

[Patient]

Yes, life must go on. This is where the problem lies - it is interfering with "life going on". Knowing that this is happening, I am losing sleep. My child has had more 'awake' moments than they will share with me - that is very upsetting. They are being shut down by this and I have to make it somehow 'ok' or 'hey don't worry about it - i get that too' ?
When it was myself, it was for me to deal with. I went through a shaky time, but came out ok. (maybe lol) Certainly i have been affected and it does take up a lot of my time as it has changed my view of many things. (you don't look at a lot of things in the world quite the same - many things don't have the same value) and this happened to me later in life - not when I was trying to grow up in this crazy world - that is plenty to deal with in itself - now add this in. You know how it is said that there isn't a perfect book about being a parent, well having parenthood modified by this and .....yeah.
And I can expect that they are interacting with all of my kids - why would they only look at one? I think that at first I was a bit "in shock" maybe, because as each day goes and night comes I am more stressed. And I tell ya, I have enough to deal with without adding this to my plate - geez. But perhaps it is all connected. Friends always tell me that I should write a book - and they don't know about the ET thing. My family has honestly been asked formally twice to do a reality TV show. We have refused because every family that I have seen on reality TV has ended in bad ways. So even money won't take us there - and I could certainly use money right now.
OK, off on a tangent, but i will leave it in.
So, has anyone experience here that they could share?
I have to tell my child to not talk about it, because who knows what could come my way if they are talking about this in school etc. But I need them to talk to me, so when do I lay that on them? I don't want them to be afraid - I want them to be strong, but they can't talk about it? See what I mean?
I can see how a conversation like this would be good on the forum because I am sure that I am not the first nor will I be the last to deal with this.

[Inversion]

What DNA said, The more one researches contact phenomenon, the more they can be pulled into a hall of mirrors, or pulled down a rabbit hole of confusion.

Those who have had an anomalous experience should do their utmost to distract themselves. My own theory based on my own weird experiences, is that the mind itself, provides the conduit that ushers 'some' of these beings into our 3 dimensional space. It's like we are the wormholes we have been searching for.

I recently went through the Law of One series. According to Ra we draw experiences to ourselves though our south pole and the first to experience it is what he calls the red ray or root chakra. It would be interesting to know if we engineer alien contact prior to our incarnation in third density.

[Justplain]

Hi Patient, although my message isnt probably what you want to hear, i would say you probably dont have a lot to worry about regarding these occurences, other than the psychological complications of those affected (which can be treated via known therapy). The reason i say this that the abductors are trying to conduct these activities is secret, leaving us to live our ordinary lives as normally as possible.

We dont/cant know if there is some pre-incarnation agreement that permits this activity. I/we have heard that some of these abductors are humans from the future who need our genetic material to survive, so its not in their interest to harm us since they are our descendents. I know having seen one of these bluish grays, i certainly hope we make better choices than to end up like them.

I think there are other concerns we can do something about, such as ensuring that our own corporate/fascist plutocracy does not continue to run this show which seems destined for disaster for mother earth and humanity. We need to stop the war mongering, pollution and constant rape of the land. Doing that will better ensure the future of your children, and their offspring, than excessively worrying about this uncontrollable abuse.

[Patient]

Hi Patient, although my message isnt probably what you want to hear, i would say you probably dont have a lot to worry about regarding these occurences, other than the psychological complications of those affected (which can be treated via known therapy). The reason i say this that the abductors are trying to conduct these activities is secret, leaving us to live our ordinary lives as normally as possible.

We dont/cant know if there is some pre-incarnation agreement that permits this activity. I/we have heard that some of these abductors are humans from the future who need our genetic material to survive, so its not in their interest to harm us since they are our descendents. I know having seen one of these bluish grays, i certainly hope we make better choices than to end up like them.

I think there are other concerns we can do something about, such as ensuring that our own corporate/fascist plutocracy does not continue to run this show which seems destined for disaster for mother earth and humanity. We need to stop the war mongering, pollution and constant rape of the land. Doing that will better ensure the future of your children, and their offspring, than excessively worrying about this uncontrollable abuse.

Justplain, you are not saying something that I don't want to hear. I posted this because I want to hear from anyone who has input for this situation. I suppose my message comes across to different people differently. Also I know that I let my feelings and emotions out there, partly because due to the stress of the situation I allowed myself to vent. I understand that I most likely can't stop it. It is the psychological complications that is a very big problem. I do not want to send my child to a therapist - rather I need to be the therapist and that is where I could use some help because this isn't about how to play with the kids in the neighbourhood or about chores around the house and doing homework.

If the abductors did do their work in secret, then I wouldn't know that there was an issue. Perhaps because of the type of person that I am and that my children are, we are a bit more 'awake' and not so easily susceptible to the abductors regular practice and routines. Thus, I have issues to deal with that many other parents don't. On the other hand, I bet that there are parents like myself that have not discussed this issue - at least I haven't come across anything that I can remember where people are talking about how to deal with this with their kids.

Actually, this easily relates to your last paragraph - it is our children that will soon be responsible for the war mongering, pollution, etc., so to learn how to help them with this scary night-time event is very important to how they will view these things in our future. We all want disclosure but at what age is it appropriate and to what degree? To move us into the right future this seems to be a worthy topic. So thank you Justplain - perhaps your comment was exactly what I needed to hear.

[Bruno]

I emailed mufon about my situation and they called me and I shared my experience but they offer nothing in the way of support, well at least not to me. Since I started taking anti-depressants about ten years ago I haven't been having "experiences". I have no idea what that means. I no longer remember? They no longer need or want me? My paternal grandmother and father had similar "experiences". I have children but since they aren't biologically mine (adopted) I am hopeful that they are not being messed with. I have never told them about me in case the idea is contagious or awakens something in them as ridiculous as that sounds.

[Barron]

There a few very experienced people specialising in regresion therapy specialising in the so called "abduction" phenomena. Although, personally i believe the term "abduction" is not the right term in most instances. Look up Mary Rodwell for starters. There are many others.

[DNA]

You know what?
There are a few things I've come to believe can affect a situation.
No gurantees here, just things to keep in mind.
MILAB abduction scenario's are often predicated on how far you live from a large military base, so I suppose keeping your distance from one might help.
Also, I noted when I lived in a popular college town that I experienced abduction dreams where upon I noted many sleepy people of college age surrounding me, as if we were all part of a mass abduction.
Since leaving the area I stopped experiencing those dreams.
It is my guess that college towns with their large population of young adults might be popular abduction spots and as such avoiding them may help.
Also, there are known UFO hotspots, I leave it up to you to look into this, but upstate NewYork where Betty and Barny Hill were upducted is considered such a hotspot, as such I think if you were to look into your area you could decide for yourself if you are in such a hotspot, you could look into putting yourself in an area that is not such.
Have a good one and good luck.