Only Communism Can Save Mankind

[xidaijena]

Only Communism Can Save Mankind

Xuefeng

8th August 2016

(Translated by Conglong, Ailian and Tongxin)
(Edited by Kaer)


Capitalism has achieved great progress for humanity.Transportation and communication are very convenient and produce is abundant in today's society. The earth supports seven billion people, mainly as a result of capitalistic development. Without capitalism, today’s civilization could not exist.

Capitalists are the elite of society. They have generated much material wealth for people and resolved unemployment issues for a large number of people. Without capitalists, many more of us would be very poor and suffer underdeveloped and empty lives.

However, the development of capitalism has gradually revealed three major issues that it cannot overcome:
1. The unequal distribution of wealth
2. The over consumption of natural resources
3. The idealized human characteristics of selfishness and greed

As reported by CNS New Work on January 20th, 2015, the top 1% of the wealthiest people in the world possess 48% of the world's wealth, the following 19% possess 46%, and the bottom 80% only possess 5.5%.

The unequal distribution of wealth will result in a series of social problems such as:
1. A desire to be wealthy quickly and its resulting illegal activities
2. Hostility against the wealthy
3. Production of counterfeit goods
4. Seizing of resources
5. Illicit drug production and trafficking
6. Jealousy and struggling
7. Stealing, cheating, blackmailing, exploiting, gambling, speculating, and corrupting because of feeling psychologically unbalanced
8. Violence
All these problems cannot be resolved through capitalistic production relations.

The second issue caused by the development of capitalism is the unreasonable and huge consumption of natural resources. Professor Mohan Munasinghe, the Vice Chair of the U.N Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and a board member of Green Cross International, said that by 2012, we had overdrawn 50% of the sustainable natural resources of the earth and he predicted that if we continue pursuing our current lifestyles, we would need those of two planets to meet the demand of the total population by 2030.

Not only is the excessive consumption of natural resources unable to support a sustainable future, but it will also lead to a series of natural disasters. The deterioration of the natural environment in recent years is very evident: global warming, drought and drying river beds, floods, hurricanes, thawing permafrost and the disappearing arctic ice cap as ancient glaciers melt and result in a rise of sea level, destruction of biodiversity, and polluted rivers, sea, and soil, to name just a few. Even more severe are the natural disasters which are aggravating, not by a small percentage, but rather at a geometric rate. Due to this climate change, it is possible that within the next fifteen years, many places on earth will become uninhabitable.The number of refugees caused by natural disasters could reach hundreds of millions which could lead to social upheavals, and if that happens, the United Nations and the existing governments will be impotent.

The nature and development of capitalism are based on selfishness and greed. The ultimate purpose of the efforts of almost everyone is to get more resources and wealth for themselves. In order to meet their growing and changing desires, people are working hard, day and night, in order to acquire more wealth and resources, which in turn, aggravates the selfish consciousness and actions. Excessive development and consumption driven by endless desires of human beings are the core drivers that lead to pollution, global warming, destruction of biodiversity, and other natural disasters. Stephen Hawking once predicted that selfishness will lead to the destruction of the human race within 200 years.

Except for the three big conditions of inequitable distribution of wealth, uncontrolled consumption of natural resources, and selfishness and greed, others such as financial turmoil, massive global military spending, fast population growth, huge numbers of civil servants in each country, and large amounts of waste, are problems that cannot be overcome within our current system; Stephen Hawking predicted that the end could come within two hundred years. It is becoming clear however, that if these issues are not resolved soon and if things continue to deteriorate, it could very likely happen within less than one hundred years.

The U.S is the most developed capitalist country in the world, and its consumption of natural resources is so large that, according to Singapore's newspaper “Zaobao”, if everyone in the world consumed what the average American does, we would need five earths to meet their demand. In addition, according to a report in the American “Aerospace Daily” of April 11th, 2016, data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute(SIPRI) showed that global defense spending in 2015 totaled about $1.7 trillion, and the top spender, the U.S., reached $596 billion. Given the reality of the U.S.’s consumption of natural resources and its military spending, natural resources will surely become depleted eventually as a result of the development of capitalism. A country whose population accounts for less than 4% of the world’s total is consuming 25% of the earth’s resources. If every country were to do as the U.S. does, humanity would surely face a dead end.

Population expansion is a major world problem. According to statistics from the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), the world population is increasing at a rate of 80 million people per year. A recent report from the UN forecast that the world population will increase from 7.3 billion in 2015 to 8.1 billion by 2023 and to 9.6 billion by 2050. With these increases of population and with the rise of people’s consumption levels, the demand for natural resources will also increase.

For example, to meet the demands of 73 million people for food, clothing, accommodations and transportation etc, a huge amount of natural resources must be consumed. The resources of our earth are limited, however the increase of population is unlimited. We have limited water and land resources, so how are we going to handle this challenge? If we do not have a feasible plan to control the population growth or change our lifestyles and production modes, one day the resources will become exhausted and humanity’s doom will not be much farther away, no matter how many UN meetings are held or what efforts the governments of each country take.

We are facing a huge crisis. To best way to overcome this is to gradually move toward a communist lifestyle. In other words, only communism can save the world.

Communism is not just a new lifestyle and a new production system, it is a noble faith. It is the essence of the thoughts of many saints and sages ever since the ancient Greek philosopher Plato wrote of an ideal lifestyle that is desired by ordinary citizens. Communism represents universal values. Social issues such as racial discrimination, religious disputes, staterivalries, national extremes, distribution inequity, selfishness and greed, resource waste, territorial disputes, population growth, huge military spending, government over-staffing and corruption, and high volumes of waste can all be resolved and eliminated through communism. In addition, communism can purify our souls and sublimate our characters, and it will not only make materially abundant lives possible, but the state of global happiness will be elevated as well.

The communism I discuss here is very different from the communism described by Karl Max, Vladimir Lenin, and Mao Zedong. The way it realizes the communist production relationship has essential differences from the ways carried out by Lenin and Mao. Please do not jump to the conclusion that the communism I mentioned is like your previous experience and perception of the term.

To differentiate between our communism and that described by Marx, Lenin, and Mao, we temporarily name ours, “Xuefeng-style communism”.

Xuefeng-style communism has been running for over seven years, and it has proven through practice that Xuefeng-style communism can be fully realized under current conditions. Xuefeng-style communism can resolve the crises of unequal distribution of wealth, intemperate consumption of natural resources, population expansions, financial storms, huge military expenditures, overstaffed civil offices, and disposal problems. Moreover, Xuefeng-style communism will bring an unprecedented bright life to the human condition.

Xuefeng-style communism has realized the following after seven years’ practice:

1. From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs. Everyone has something to do and a place in which to live, and people never need to worry about making a living. Everyone does their best according to their talents and abilities.

2. No one pockets anything found on the road and doors are unbolted at night. There is no stealing, cheating, robbing, or concealing of goods.

3. There is no marriage and no family. Also there is no currency within the community.

4. Love is free, but there is no sexual promiscuity or venereal disease.

5. The environment of the community is beautiful, clean, and orderly.

6. Nobody has personal belongings. Everything belongs to the community and everyone is selfless.

7. Illness is reduced to the minimum and the average expenditure on medical care is less than ￥200RMB per person, per year. If we lived this life style, aging would slow down and the average lifespan would exceed eighty years. However, our ideal is for everyone to live up to 120 years and to die peacefully and without illness.

8. The young will get a proper education and the old will be well taken care of. Rearing and educating children will no longer be their parents’ responsibility. There will be no widows or empty-nest elderly. Also, there would be no undisciplined or neglected children.

9. People live in harmony with others, with society, and with nature. Over the last seven years, Xuefeng-style communism has never had any conflicts with neighbors or with the outside world. We have never hurt little animals such as birds, snakes, or fish. We have planted many trees and flowers which not only beautified the environment, but also brought vigor and vitality to our community.

10. Over the last seven years, no crime has taken place within our community, and fighting is extremely rare.

11. We use no chemical fertilizers or pesticides in our fields.Human and animal wastes are well composted into fertilizer. Also, we separate rubbish from waste, and purify the sewage. Zero pollution has been nearly accomplished.

12. We have no administrators, no leaders, and no offices within the community. Also, there is no command or force, and everyone consciously and generously infuses himself into his work because every member is also a laborer.

13. We have no religious rituals or activities and there are no spells or idolatry.

14. In all affairs,whether big or small, the responsibilities are well divided. Traditional heavy housework has been eliminated.

15. We only celebrate festivals of nature, such as Chinese spring festival, Ching Ming festival, Dragon boat festival, and mid-autumn festival. Apart from natural festivals, we celebrate no other festivals and we do not celebrate individual birthdays.

16. We keep communications open with the outside world. Everyone communicates with the outside world by telephone, email, and WeChat messenger. Strict screening is required before anyone may enter our community, but anyone can leave the community freely.

17. We are self-sufficient. We are not supported from the outside world nor do we need to be. We do not take capitalists’ wealth.

18. Every member relocates to a new facility every three years to avoid aesthetic fatigue, forming cliques, or being trapped into relationships.

19. All the resources are highly shared and utilized. For example, a hundred fifty people within our community share five cars. However, under capitalism, four people typically share a car. In this case, a hundred fifty people save thirty-two cars. We can enjoy very good lives with only one quarter of the resources needed in a capitalist system.

20. There are no rules and no discipline with punishment. We comply only with the natural and civilization Tao.

21. A strong credit system has been established. Those who are dishonest will fail as in the parable of the long spoons.

22. Birth control is well carried out. No children have been born in our community during the last seven years. One reason for this is to comply with national laws and regulations, and another is to lighten the burden of the nearly fully loaded planet.

23. The funeral system of Xuefeng-style communism is such that no matter who passes on, only simple farewell ceremonies are held. Their bodies are committed to fire and their ashes are sprinkled to nature. We have no graves, mausoleums, or urns (ash boxes).

24. If measured by GPI (Genuine Progress Indicator), HDI (HumanDevelopment Index) and NHI (National Happiness Index), it goes without saying that the Xuefeng-style communist community is at the forefront.

If the whole world can do the above, all humanity's crises would disappear quickly.

Here, I want to say to all the capitalists that Xuefeng-style communism would not take your wealth away. To the contrary, it would bring you safety and stability. It would provide you with soulfulness and spiritual abundance. We human beings not only need financial wellbeing, but also soulful and spiritual wellbeing. Xuefeng-style communism helps people to achieve their highest levels of self-transcendence. As stated in Abraham Maslow's “DemandTheory”, you would lead very good lives. If you do not carry out communism, there will be no escape from the poor, because when a huge crisis comes, your armies and police will not be able to protect you. The wealth you possess will not save you.

Here I want to say to the head of each country’s government that Xuefeng-style communism would not interfere with your management, nor would it threaten or harm to your powers and positions. We are neither a religious group nor a political group; we are just a completely new production and life model. Please understand this: the person who has strong beliefs and ideals would never covet after short lived power and position, nor would they waste valuable time on possessions and vanity.

Here I want to say to the 80% of people who own only 5.5% of the world's wealth that your only way out is to move towards Xuefeng-style communism, that no matter what you do, you are not able to ascend to the upper classes. Your lives are a constant struggles to survive. When you suffer from illness or natural disaster, you are set way back. For even those of you who own hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that is only a drop in the bucket. If there is no food for a month, you would know hunger. Therefore, you should long for communism and devote yourselves to communism. Only communism can save you.

Taking stop-gap measures cannot solve humanity's problems. The only way out is for the whole world to transit to Xuefeng-style communism.

How does capitalism transfer to Xuefeng-style communism?

1. With keen eyesight and an open mind and heart, observe, investigate, visit, learn, and study the successful, practical experience of Xuefeng-style communism in our community.

2. The transition should be supported by the United Nations and executed by the respective government of each country, with specific plans and steps.

3. Do not practice this as a worldwide movement, but experiment in small regions at first. Each country should start with from one to three experimental regions. If they are successful, then they should spread it gradually; if not, then can give it up. In this way, such practices would not inhibit the normal operation of the current system and it would also be good for exploring the methods and ways of eliminating the current crises which face humanity.

4. Throughout the whole practice, Xuefeng-style communism will not deprive capitalists of their property and capitalists can continue their commercial activities by following market law. Once half the people on earth enter this communist lifestyle, and when the capitalists see that communist life is more ideal than their current lives, they will embrace it and become willingly involved with the exploration and practice of Xuefeng-style communism. Not putting requirements on anybody at any time is the core principle of Xuefeng-style communism.

5. People who are involved in the production and life of Xuefeng-style communism must first have a soul-garden purification. Capitalism is created and realized by stimulating people’s selfishness, greed, wisdom, and skill to realize individual value through attaining resources, wealth, status, rights, and fame. However, Xuefeng-style communism is created by positively inspiring the qualities of sincerity, kindness, beauty, love, faith, and honesty deep within people’s hearts, to climb to the highest realm of temporary life and eternal LIFE. Without purifying one’s soul-garden, the laziness, selfishness, and greed of people cannot be overcome, and such people are not suitable for a communist lifestyle.

After seven years’ practice, Xuefeng-style communism is still not perfect. We are still exploring it as “walking a tightrope” or“walking on thin ice”, which means that we need wise and judicious people from all over the world to point our mistakes out, to offer advice, and to practice it together. We need understanding as well as involvement and support from governments much more.

“The future is bright but the road is torturous”. No matter how tough the path and how much difficulty we encounter, we need to make every effort to succeed. Only by making strong effort, can we have hope, but once we give up making this effort, the future will definitely be bleak.

Source: http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7190

[xidaijena]

New pcitures of our home:


Years of Burning Fervor Again
Xuefeng
June 7, 2015

(Translated by Xidai and Edited by Kaer)


We are bees, we are ants. No matter where we are, we will create a most beautiful life with our diligence. We will not regret what we have lost because our energy and our footprints will always remain. Life is only a journey, it is transient. We strive onward, working, sublimating, singing, and bringing our passions and loves with us all the way.

We have created picturesque Xanadus in the “Land of Eternal Spring”, the Mountains of Yunnan, and in the windy and dusty Gobi Desert, we created miracles that transformed deserts into oases. Today, years of burning fervor start anew. We play, sublimate, and imagine our futures in our labor. No matter what tomorrow will bring, no matter who will enjoy the fruits of our labor, we are celestials, we treasure every process in our LIFE. Even if we only live on Earth for one day, we will purify Mother Earth with our beautiful hearts until we reach the top of life and LIFE.

Please enjoy these pictures of our labour.

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See more pictures of Xuefeng-style communism:

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7195

[Bob]

Good post - the issue is WEALTH... setting an arbitrary on someone's production and then using that as a commodity.. It is selling the SOUL really..

If we put a $$$ value on the soul then manipulation can happen. A SOUL cannot be valued, nor sold..

Capitalism creates a fake illusion than one can VALUE a SOUL.. So there are justifications, over and over, who think's one's worth is this or that..

There is NO WORTH..

Focus on that.. there is no worth..

no value, no selling.. no marketing, no delusion of worth.. focus on that.. worth means some have and some have not.. worth..

on "perceived worth" delusionary markets are created. Folks then jump on the illusion and "play the game".. And they fight tooth and nail for their 401K's or market investment.. FAKE illusion. Fake worth.. delusion to create a perceived shortage in an abundant universe.

Slavery is Capitalism. Is Fascism, IS communism too.. as long as the VALUE for SOUL remains..

Just put that in perspective. Abundance exists. Shortage manipulation is market economy.. IS capitalism... IS communism, is socialism.. Those who control RESOURCES manipulate perceived shortage.. Simple point..

Reality is, resources can be created... Not needing to be found and squandered.. This is where abundance in actual creation happens... But that is a concept way way beyond mentalities who think about only how their 401K is going to give them the illusion of any 'lasting' support..

bahhh...

[Olaf]

Capitalism is also a giant waste of resources. Meanwhile on a daily basis I notice circumstrances, where the biggest part of intellectual or labour work is spent only

- to harm/disable competitors
- to enslave users and bind them to the product/company
- to ensure further profits far beyound the real values of the producs
- to prevent cheaper technologies from being used
- to be used for military purposes, war, enslavery
- ...

Imagine, where mankind could be today, if we would use our resources for common wealth, not for private profits.
We would be able to live in paradise. Now.

[Baby Steps]

Thanks...
I believe that the research has established that there is a broad relationship between wealth per capita and fertility or population growth.

A key factor influencing fertility/population growth is the parent's confidence that their offspring will survive- if they are more confident, they produce less babies.

So increased wealth , that facilitates better health provision, reduces population growth, and can facilitate a gentle population decline, which many would agree is desirable at this point.

My view, which I believe is supported by the following graph, is that a more socialistic model is MORE SUCCESSFUL in facilitating this process PER UNIT OF WEALTH .

My view of the reasons for this are that if you can organise ECONOMIC SECURITY for families and SECURE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, the process of stabilisation of population growth occurs at a LOWER LEVEL OF WEALTH PER CAPITA. This is shown in the graph, where more collectivised societies are located below the line, whereas the more free-wheeling capitalist societies, that engineer into their social structures greater INSECURITY for ECONOMIC REASONS (insecurity feeds desire for wealth and offspring) are located above the line.

I remember Ozmirage stating that low fertility in Germany proved that its socialistic system was failing. I feel this is wrong, Germany's stagnant population is a result of the quality of life and economic security that the system provides to its citizens, and this demographic is desirable.

34650

[Bob]

i get it what you are saying, no question - it is that one attributes WEALTH which then puts a price on people, commodities, things, and then it allows for SCARCITY manipulation - from have's and have nots.. Abolish the concept of putting a price on someone, or something.. Without WEALTH tags, there are no Soros' or Gates for instance.. Figure out how to focus on abundance is present in the universe, that it is our job to understand how to bring that forth.. If we continue compartmentalizing such and such is worth this or that, we end up with some are "worth more" than others (citing Animal Farm for instance, depicting the communistic order of how it failed...)

[Baby Steps]

Dear Xidaijena,

I have a question.
In Western terms I think we would call this kind of model a 'Commune'

People live and work within a self supporting, sharing, barter based community.

Now in China, you have state provision of certain services. The State's ability to provide is a function of the State's ability to raise tax. Can you tell us what levels of provision are provided free to the mass of the people, in terms of Health, Education, Infrastructure et cetera?

The kind of communal living that you advocate is barter based, and achieves a good life style at a far lower rate of consumption of resources, than most models. That is because it is based on sharing.

If people live in this way, it reduces that State's ability to tax them, or reduces the amount of tax. Does the state see this as a challenge to its economic plans?

Many thanks

[Bubu]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

[araucaria]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.
You are right of course, bubu. Not only is communism just a label, but it carries such a load of baggage that it is probably not appropriate for something very different from what we have seen in the past. Labels are handy, but usually speak far too loud, especially when they are deliberately misleading. ‘Capitalism’ is at least honest: capital rules. But ‘liberalism’ is dishonest in suggesting some kind of freedom, or liberality. ‘Communism’ was originally an honest label, indicating sharing (and caring), but has become tainted by the practice, or rather non-practice, of it. This means it can still serve, but maybe not if it leads to too many misunderstandings.

[transiten]

I once was a communist but have realized that no "ism" or political party will save the world as already stated above. Only on the soullevel this can be solved, pple living a spiritual life connnected to source :angel:

Hence both capitalism annd communism are purely matrrialistic in their worldview

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks for the beautiful pictures, xidiajena! Infinite Love is the ONLY Reality, in my own opinion, & I would say you are living it there in your community! :grouphug:

[Baby Steps]

I hope this post is not a digression. For the purposes of this one post only, I am going to suggest that the thread is not primarily about ‘communism’ but rather about reducing man’s impact on the environment-our life support system – by reducing consumption, waste, pollution etc in a sustainable way.`

If one needs an ‘ism’ perhaps it would be ‘localism’
In the model , as described, the group live in a sharing/communal way. The community provides food, water, accommodation, probably clothing, energy, education, elderly care, basic health care locally. They then buy in what they need- say, a tractor, van, laptop etc. These externally provided items require some currency income (probably shared) and the assets is then used communally-so far fewer of them are really needed.

You have a society that functions with much less from the outside, it is self supporting , self reliant, and has a very low impact on the environment.
What makes it possible are:

1. The community members wish to live in a certain way, and have the skills to achieve this.
2. There has had to have been some start up capital- if only , probably in this case the land and buildings are state owned, they may remain so, but they are still capital.
3. The community consumes SOME hi-tech that it cannot produce. Such as internet, on-line education, certain medical services, electronics, vehicles, batteries, etc. To acquire these items the community needs an income from the ‘non-commune world’ ie hard currency.
4. To exist at all, there needs to be a wider community capable of providing those goods & services. In many cases communist systems are not the best- for example Soviet TVs were rubbish.
5. To exist at all, the state in China has acted as an enabler, if only by not BLOCKING or BANNING this kind of model. In this they must be applauded. The legal framework exists to allow it.

To enlarge on this point of the admirable Chinese State that has allowed this community:

If you set up a society where most of the goods and services that members consume are distributed on a sharing basis (or barter), this flow is UNRECORDED and therefore UN TAXABLE. This model therefore threatens the typical state requirement to tax the individual in order to provide services such as Roads, defence, health care, etc.
It is functioning in China, I would guess, because it is not so different from the peasant lifestyle on collective farms. The state probably gets little or no tax income from those people, so switching to this model does not threaten the state. However if 500 million tried it, I am sure there would be trouble.

In the West, of course, the whole system is set up to prevent the idea of anybody sharing or living communally.

There are communities, such as the Lammas Project in UK, but generally this is very hard to do. The state, plus private Companies do everything to stop it, as it threatens their income. It is very hard to get land & build. Regulations on building make it too costly.

http://lammas.org.uk/

Note: a ‘localist’ system need not be communist. Say you had a group of western style households, or small-holdings. They could barter their produce-or even sell to each other. One household would invest in the solar panels, and one in the bank of batteries. So far the state in UK has not come out against local currencies, such as the Totnes Pound:

http://www.totnespound.org/

Sharing can be looked at on a case-by-case basis. For example, take five typical western families. They shop at the supermarket. Each family fills it’s bins every week with old bread, mouldy veg and left-overs. They shop for expensive processed food items.

Imagine if the catering function was centralised. Less waste. One dish per night etc. You would halve the Bill. If you then looked at bulk buying (wholesalers) and freezing etc, you would halve the cost again. Certain products, such as rice and beans are cheap. Reduce meat consumption. Grow some locally. Huge efficiencies are possible.

It would be great to see a ‘commune movement’ in the west. A grass-roots pressure group to push for enabling legislation so that setting up these communities is easier. There would have to be a quid-pro-quo for the state. The level of state provision WITHIN these communities would have to be reduced so that they did not sap the main stream economy. Such things can be done.
I believe these communities will be forming, and it is a model for the future. The pessimistic scenario is that they will be forced to form, as the central main stream economy may collapse. However, this may not be the case, but many, given the choice, would CHOOSE to live in this way.

[christian]

Capitalism is defined by (a) private property and (b) a free market. Right now, both are heavily curtailed and distorted by the state, who is influenced by agents of a corporatocracy. That's what's happening right now. Some call it crony-capitalism. Only the economically uneducated and ideologists call it capitalism, I'm sorry to say that.

Likewise, only the naive and uneducated dream of a system of global Communism. Did anyone of you read the Communist Manifesto? It says that this egalitarian system should be brought about through despotic interventions upon people's private property. In other words, make people equal through brute force, and once everybody is made equal, people will just love it and suddenly become content and altruistic like never seen before. Eternal peace through total war. Egalitarianism brought about through the wise orders of the Communist elite who's planning and guiding people's lives. Did anyone of you read George Orwell's Animal Farm? It spells it all out.

Regarding this community project, well go for it if you like it. Produce organic, that's great. If you don't want the concept of a traditional family, if you don't want to have children, if you don't like the concept of personal sovereignty, have it your way. Just don't force anybody to live like that as well. It may be good for you, but it's certainly not superior and I would never accept this lifestyle being imposed on me.

[Basho]

Well said by the others, that no ism can save humanity. In fact isms & systems create more new problems. I've lived in a commune & had my ideal bubble burst by the realities of day to day life & individual egos. So even such a beautiful place like a commune is not a solution IMHO

[Baby Steps]

Capitalism is defined by (a) private property and (b) a free market. Right now, both are heavily curtailed and distorted by the state, who is influenced by agents of a corporatocracy. That's what's happening right now. Some call it crony-capitalism. Only the economically uneducated and ideologists call it capitalism, I'm sorry to say that.

Likewise, only the naive and uneducated dream of a system of global Communism. Did anyone of you read the Communist Manifesto? It says that this egalitarian system should be brought about through despotic interventions upon people's private property. In other words, make people equal through brute force, and once everybody is made equal, people will just love it and suddenly become content and altruistic like never seen before. Eternal peace through total war. Egalitarianism brought about through the wise orders of the Communist elite who's planning and guiding people's lives. Did anyone of you read George Orwell's Animal Farm? It spells it all out.

Regarding this community project, well go for it if you like it. Produce organic, that's great. If you don't want the concept of a traditional family, if you don't want to have children, if you don't like the concept of personal sovereignty, have it your way. Just don't force anybody to live like that as well. It may be good for you, but it's certainly not superior and I would never accept this lifestyle being imposed on me.

Hi,
I agree with this but what about the evident issue of material consumption & resource limitation. China has lifted a billion people out of poverty , they now have fridges & washing machines etc. The planet cannot sustain the increasing level of consumption.

The pure free market philosophy would I hope address the pollution issue by somehow building the costs of the environmental damage into the product- those that suffered the loss to their air, water & land from contamination would have the legal redress to receive compensation. Those costs would then be built onto the products themselves. That is (kind of) a market based solution to the idea of over consumption.

Reducing environmental impact does not have to mean communism.

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Xidaijena,

I have a question.
In Western terms I think we would call this kind of model a 'Commune'

People live and work within a self supporting, sharing, barter based community.

Now in China, you have state provision of certain services. The State's ability to provide is a function of the State's ability to raise tax. Can you tell us what levels of provision are provided free to the mass of the people, in terms of Health, Education, Infrastructure et cetera?

The kind of communal living that you advocate is barter based, and achieves a good life style at a far lower rate of consumption of resources, than most models. That is because it is based on sharing.

If people live in this way, it reduces that State's ability to tax them, or reduces the amount of tax. Does the state see this as a challenge to its economic plans?

Many thanks

Yes -- many thanks to all. Xidaijena, I do appreciate you sharing all this. :star:

In the English language, 'Communism' is rather a 'loaded' word, as we say.

It has so many connotations and so much historical baggage, and often triggers so many thoughts, feelings and images, that it might be best (safer!) to use another term: maybe something like 'organized communal living'. I do know that this is what you're describing here.

[bearcow]

Only Character can save mankind.

If Jesus, Buddha or any other figure with high moral fiber were the supreme ruler of planet earth, the planet and its citizens would be in much better off in that scenario than a true democratic society of average folk with inconsistent motives.

[christian]

what about the evident issue of material consumption & resource limitation. China has lifted a billion people out of poverty , they now have fridges & washing machines etc. The planet cannot sustain the increasing level of consumption.

The pure free market philosophy would I hope address the pollution issue by somehow building the costs of the environmental damage into the product- those that suffered the loss to their air, water & land from contamination would have the legal redress to receive compensation. Those costs would then be built onto the products themselves. That is (kind of) a market based solution to the idea of over consumption.

Reducing environmental impact does not have to mean communism.

China is trapping a billion people in poverty. China is the biggest hellhole when it comes to the environment. And it's all sanctioned by the Communist party. The country is literally spilling over with toxins.

In a free market system, anyone who causes any damage to someone's property will be held accountable and has to pay the price. This is unlike what we see today, where corporations often lobby governments to get a free pass while littering the planet.

Overcoming the cronyism of the corporatocracy means making a step towards sustainability. Establishing a free market system means establishing the framework in which each individual and corporation is held accountable for their environmental impact. Exactly what you say. Environmentalism is best served by free markets, cause on a free market scarce goods are more expensive and will thus be spared more than not so scarce goods. But for that to work, there better not be governments and lobbyists, no distortion of prices, no subsidies, no free passes.

If you want to reduce the environmental impact even more, by decree, if you're arguing in favor of telling others how to deal with their property, you have to realize that you're arguing in favor of brute force against people who don't cause any direct harm to you or another. Brute force, just because the person doesn't live like you think it would be good. Now ask yourself if that's really making things better.

[norman]

I want to break down the terms Communism and Capitalism a little further still and try to merge them into something positive.

Communal organisation is a deliberate sharing of resources by parameters designed of the minds of the time. Capitalism is the use of capital to organise. It's not really anything to do with 'free markets', it's simply that capital is wrestled over and hoarded etc and used in the best interests of those who control the most of it.

Communal management of capital is still capitalism, but it's a communal design of it's use or application. The other commonly cited definitions of Capitalism are something else entirely. Corporate Capitalism is now taking over the old definition of Collective Communism, but instead of it being political collectivism it's in the form of market economic collectivism. The board room or the Politburo, what's the difference ?

The soviet system could well be described as a beta model for giant corporatism.

If you say the word Communism half the population freak out. If you say the word Capitalism the other half of the population freak out. If you say the word Corporatism the entire population moan and put up with it's tyranny as the price of progress.

How laughable. Yes, let's liberate the word communism and give it life again.

[Morbid]

in my opinion, perhaps not the communism as such, but some form of socialism is one of the only ways forward yes. ill remind that no state in known history has built communism. it is a mere ideology, an ultimate goal etc. soviet union didnt have communism - they were 'building communism'. china dont have communism ether as economically it serves capitalists interests, receiving nothing but capitalist's debt based fiat paper back for its services..

[Morbid]

China is trapping a billion people in poverty. China is the biggest hellhole when it comes to the environment. And it's all sanctioned by the Communist party. The country is literally spilling over with toxins.

that is the case ONLY because the west has a rather unhealthy addiction for consumption

[The Freedom Train]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

TRUTH. Thank you!

[Praxis]

Removed by me

[shaberon]

A lot of it depends on who it's done with.

When I sit here and criticize the governments and corporations, all that stuff is true, but then looking at a lot of the "little people" that are supposed to need protection, help, freedom, and all that...I kind of have to put my foot in my mouth. As a "human farm", the U. S. simply produces a lot of defects. When looking at the multitude of predators--whether on a criminal level, or common selfish behavior--well, it's quite overwhelming. I really think it is different in other places. I personally only have a small experience in visiting Europe, but the whole time I was there, I would say the common standard of street-level experience was far higher than the U. S. (I did not want to come back here).

On the whole, I think a lot of it sounds fine, but that is because I agree more with Tao than with things that originate anywhere near me.

[Yetti]

Comunism only great achievement is the equal , economic, social and spiritual distribuition of misery ! Do not believe it? Go to live at cuba! Or venezuela

[rgray222]

Words matter and it is very unfortunate that the author of this piece decided to use the word communism. What is being described in this article certainly has some aspects of communism associated with it but it seems to be leaning in the direction of a communal or kibbutz lifestyle. Also just as a point of interest, fertiliser had a lot more to do with population growth than capitalism.

The world and the universe at large has an uncanny way of self-correcting. Capitalism has served a purpose and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other ism that ever was, but it is fast approaching a point where change will become necessary. There will be a tipping point when people demand change. The tipping point generally arrives when 12-15% of the population take an active role demanding change. Capitalism, especially in it bastardised form (government intervention and control) is beginning to centralize vast sums of monies into the hands of few elites. Change is inevitable.

At the present time, there is no economic system equipped to handle the needs and desires of every man woman and child on earth. A system will have to be patched together or invented from all the others that have been experimented with in the past. A hybrid that takes the best from each. The success of any new economic system will be dependent on two things, education and finding people to put in charge. I have always believed that a council of elders would be our best bet for implementing something of this magnitude.

[ceetee9]

I must agree with what many here have already stated; no “ism” is going to solve our problems or save humanity. They have all been tried multiple times and they have all failed or are failing.

The problem is with us, human beings. We have all been raised under one or more systems and have been taught (programmed) to believe that that system is best (or at least good) and all (or most) others are bad or deficient in some manner. So we continue to argue over, fight and die for our beloved systems of enslavement. We fool ourselves into believing that previous incarnations failed because of this or that and that we are smarter now and have learned not to make the same mistakes and how to fix it so it won't fail again this time—or the next. Forgive me, I'm not meaning to point fingers here (and I am just as guilty), but this is even evident in many of the comments in this thread.

What I mean when I say the problem is with us is that it is we who create our own enslavement and misery. We do so in so many ways it's quite remarkable that we haven't already self-destructed. We create governments and give them power and authority to rule over us and to protect us from others and to provide for services that we want but really don't want to pay for or do ourselves and then we're shocked when they become corrupt and ever more powerful and tyrannical. We create religions to guide us to spiritual enlightenment yet we still support them when they are so judgmental of others such as when they tell us that those who don't follow “our” religion are bad or evil and must be converted, ostracized, or destroyed. We create charitable organizations to help others or to help save the environment, but we do nothing when we learn that much of the funding never makes it to help the environment or those in need or it's stolen by those who head up the organization. We claim we care about our dwindling resources yet we continue to use more water, food, fossil fuels, etc. than we need. We work for corporations that build products designed to be thrown away and wear out quickly so consumers must continue to buy more of those products.

In this country, we claim we care about freedom and human rights yet we do nothing to reduce the 2.5 million human beings incarcerated in our prisons—more than China and Russia combined. In fact, we continue to seek more laws to lock up more people so we can “feel” safer. We've created a trillion dollar military industrial complex and continue to build more weapons of mass destruction and weapons that are used to arm both sides of a conflict, but we don't seem to care. We didn't even care that 2 trillion dollars couldn't be accounted for in 2001. Who knows how much more money has gone “missing” since then and we still do nothing.

I could go on and on, but, hopefully, I've made my point. Until we take a good hard look in the mirror and start changing the way each and every one of us think and behave toward one another and our planet, no government “ism” or religion or corporation or any other organization we can dream up to avoid searching within for the root cause of our troubles is going to fix anything for us, IMHO.

[nomadguy]

Capitalism is defined by (a) private property and (b) a free market. Right now, both are heavily curtailed and distorted by the state, who is influenced by agents of a corporatocracy. That's what's happening right now. Some call it crony-capitalism. Only the economically uneducated and ideologists call it capitalism, I'm sorry to say that.

Likewise, only the naive and uneducated dream of a system of global Communism. Did anyone of you read the Communist Manifesto? It says that this egalitarian system should be brought about through despotic interventions upon people's private property. In other words, make people equal through brute force, and once everybody is made equal, people will just love it and suddenly become content and altruistic like never seen before. Eternal peace through total war. Egalitarianism brought about through the wise orders of the Communist elite who's planning and guiding people's lives. Did anyone of you read George Orwell's Animal Farm? It spells it all out.

Regarding this community project, well go for it if you like it. Produce organic, that's great. If you don't want the concept of a traditional family, if you don't want to have children, if you don't like the concept of personal sovereignty, have it your way. Just don't force anybody to live like that as well. It may be good for you, but it's certainly not superior and I would never accept this lifestyle being imposed on me.

This corporatocracy that has been the model that the West has used to create a technological boom over the past 100 years or so, is giving way to a new form of control => Technocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy). Here you have a form of control that can and will subvert all other forms of governance and be ruled by the smallest fraction of people on earth. The PTBS as it were...

[Flash]

The OP is bringing in the idea of communal work and communal lifestyle base on values and ways of doing accepted by its members.

And, to be part of it, a very tight screening is done, not everyone has access - aren't we already starting with a kind of 1% vs 99% sort of thinking? If we cannot integrate those of different values, or those with basic screwed up mind or genetic, we cannot have something sustainable on a larger scale.

Does anyone remembers the numerous communes that existed in the sixties and seventies in the western world? They did resemble pretty much what our Chinese OP is presenting to us. They were successful for a while, and they moslty all disintegrated.

Anyone has done any research on why those communes did not survived (apart from too much weed consumption lolll)? That would be interesting to know what happened with these communes and why they died.

Furthermore, those ecological villages where people regroup to have natural lifestyles with local electricity provided by local resources, often on a house by house basis, and local markets etc. Aren't they other styles of communes? How productive (in terms of local wealth and comfort) and how steady are they?

Finally, religious communauties like the Hare Krishna, Jehovah witnesses and many others, catholic, christians of muslim, for example, are based on shared values, shared forms of living, quite a lot of internal exchange, etc. Could they be named communal life? If so, why don't we all subscribe to them?

You see, there is a very large gap between Chinese culture and Western cultures, so wide that most of the things applying well to Chinese and easily accepted by them would not apply without major modifications to the Western cultures. Nothing to do with greed or capitalism but everything to do with basic cultural understandings and values. And vice-versa when we, in the West, want to impose our ways to the East.

However, thinking about it is a worthwile exercise in my opinion.

and congratulation for that Chinese community who is trying something new.

I would have a lot to say about the article analysing the Western capitalistic societies as well, thinking there is a lot of misunderstandings or misinterpretations of the Western world in it, but not tonight.

[xidaijena]

Imagine, where mankind could be today, if we would use our resources for common wealth, not for private profits.
We would be able to live in paradise. Now.

Agree with you.

[xidaijena]

Does the state see this as a challenge to its economic plans?

I think it is.

[xidaijena]

Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

The question is that how do people realize that we are one?

[xidaijena]

Only on the soullevel this can be solved, pple living a spiritual life connnected to source

Agree with you, the main connotation of Xuefeng-style communism is to revere the Greatest Creator, LIFE, and nature. We think the source is the Greatest Creator.

[Bubu]

Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

The question is that how do people realize that we are one?

I agree that the kind of lifestyle you describe above will awaken our innate nature of caring and sharing which has been dormant due to brainwashing. However it has a part that is of negative brainwashing and that is saying that "only communism can save mankind. Why cant we just say "only caring loving and sharing can save mankind". My take is that since we have been brainwashed to make our innate nature (positive virtues) dormant then maybe we can use the same procedure "positive brainwashing" to make people realize we are one.

[Baby Steps]

Human genetics is not of the 'selfish gene' variety - where males fight over females to propagate their genes.

There are other more altruistic & cooperative models - how about the 'meerkat model'?

Humans have for most of their history lived in small mutually supportive groups or communities whether agricultural or hunter-gatherer.

The challenge of a hard environment, resource scarcity etc are met by working together. The Genetic advantage being that one's own genes and those of close relatives who share genes, are promoted, because cooperation facilitates survival.
( I think many of these group models would guard against in breeding by having traditions of bringing in new blood regularly as mentioned in the 'Clan of the cave bear ' books)

Essential for group survival would be specialism of tasks- individuals would acquire skills, such as tool making, herbalism, foraging, mid-wifery, shamanism, because the group provided for those specialists collectively. In indigenous societies there is a trade or barter that goes on, so it is not quite communistic.

Humans facing a dynamic environment, and collapsing systems need to WORK TOGETHER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQt41wwfEw8

[Alberto e Daniela]

What is our paradigm ?

1) Alien forces controlling from behind the scenes in order to keep the pain-factory of the world going for their own benefit and reward their faithful administrators ?


In this case, the easiest government type to control is, of course, a Dictatorship. "They" just have to influence or corrupt one person or a small number, and you have a whole country crying. Some of the worst dictatorships were called communism, some fascism, and they all placed a "load" on the associated words, as Bill wrote.

A truly bad Capitalism, on the other hand, requires the corruption of more people, but there are enough resources to do that, as we can see, and it's harder to correct, because there are so many rotten parts in the system, either humans or artificial entities: lobbyists, government officials, corporate giants, the super rich who do not care about the suffering of human kind, etc.

2) Do we also admit that man has been sleeping for thousand years, his Essence being wrapped in his ego, which makes his so likely to succumb to corruption, or to be enchanted by silly toys and delusion of power ?


In this case, the work of the occult controllers is easier, because the victim of their influence is even asleep, and easily falls prey of their enchantment.

A common living based on sharing resources can help because it removes some of the poisoned gifts which corrupt man, like an excess of power or riches, but the solution to the big conundrum is to come from the territory of Consciousness, because even in the best organization form, a truly bad ( i.e. egotic ) person can bring suffering and hatred. Personal work to grow the Essence and reduce the ego is necessary there.

[christian]

China is trapping a billion people in poverty. China is the biggest hellhole when it comes to the environment. And it's all sanctioned by the Communist party. The country is literally spilling over with toxins.

that is the case ONLY because the west has a rather unhealthy addiction for consumption

The responsibility is only with the Western countries and not at all with the Chinese themselves?

[Cardillac]

in my own cheep, 25-Cent opinion the only solution to the word's problems is a variable meritocracy that is constantly monitored by HONEST members of the general public and anyone stepping out of line to enrich their own lives at the expense of the general public is in need of severe reprimanding-

Larry

[Bob]

Xidaijena, hello.

I saw this article that this particular Chinese government is committing what appears to be human rights violations, forcibly displacing citizens in a very pretty area. Apparently the citizens had no say in the matter, kicked out, and not compensated in any fair and acceptable way. Seems to me a government based on those "Communistic Principles" that can do that really is not so nice? If the State says 'this is how it will be' there is no freedom to say otherwise, correct? Haven't we seen this sort of State-organized abuse before, communities being kicked out because the State wants something, and the people can not say otherwise? In other words, there is no EQUALITY across the board, there are superiors who set policy and there are workers who serve that superior, right?


China is creating/building a massive Five-hundred-metre Aperture Spherical Telescope (FAST) in the country's southwest, which began operations in September and cost 1.2 billion yuan ($180 million) to build, is the world's largest radio telescope.

Once fully operational, FAST will be able to peer deeper into space than ever before, examining pulsars, dark matter and gravitational waves—and searching for signs of life.

Authorities also hope it will bring tourist dollars to the province of Guizhou, one of China's poorest regions.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Guizhou_in_China_(%2Ball_claims_hatched).svg/275px-Guizhou_in_China_(%2Ball_claims_hatched).svg.png

But it comes at the cost of forcibly displacing about 9,000 villagers who called the site in Pingtang county their home.

Many were outraged at being forced to leave the valley surrounded by forested karst hills and hundreds of families are now suing the government, with some cases being heard this week.
Octogenarian Han Jingfu drank pesticide days after being made to sign a relocation contract and died at his front door, neighbours and relatives said.

China built FAST as part of efforts to take on international rivals and raise its embarrassingly low tally of Nobel Prizes, explained Peng Bo, director of China's National Astronomical Observatories, which oversees the telescope.

The 500-metre-wide (1,640 feet) dish dwarfs its nearest competitor, the US's Puerto Rico-based Arecibo telescope, which is only 305 metres across.


Source article at: http://phys.org/news/2016-11-aliens-thousands-displaced-china-huge.html#jCp


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160915112223-before-telescope-super-169.jpg

The Guardian (UK) said this:


Massive relocation projects have long been a Communist party specialty.

Millions of Chinese citizens have been displaced in recent decades to make way for hydro-electric dams and other infrastructure projects or as part of “poverty alleviation” schemes.

Those forced from their homes often complain of poor compensation.



It just seems that in reality, looking at projects such as this and more massive, under the concept that "Only Communism Can Save Mankind", poverty is not alleviated, citizens displaced, and a "glorious" technological Communist party reigns supreme over citizens. The OP title thread says "Only Communism can Save mankind" - with such projects abuse apparently of human rights, property/land, it seems contradictory and glossing over issues such as technological advancement at the expense of humanity. What am I missing?

If the existing "Communism" system as applied in China currently is not "working as it 'should' " would the people then up-rise and overthrow the unworkable parts of the system? In other words, force Xuefeng-style communism on the government, the population, taking apart that unworkable existing system? How can a peaceful revolution/evolution evoke positive change against those who forcibly harm it's citizens?

==update==

I see doing a websearch, provided this link with answers provided by members:
http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5544

[norman]

I don't think Xidaijena is defending the Chinese government. Well, I didn't think that when I wrote my own post, did I miss something?

[TargeT]

Haven't we seen this sort of State-organized abuse before, communities being kicked out because the State wants something, and the people can not say otherwise?


Moving people from their homes is very traumatic.

Killing people and harvesting their organs... more so.
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China has much darker skeletons in its closet... and they are still there today.



I think we have seen enough examples from China to prove that state run communism is FAR worse than capitalism (or what ever the west currently functions under,, fascism i guess).

So since we have (many) examples that neither "ism" works ideally, where do we go from here?

They US tried to start a Constitutional Republic; and for the most part was fairly successful, but it has still turned into a basket of corruption (just not as bad as china and some other places, or at least not as openly bad... Regime change is pretty evil IMO).

Do we go with something like the Venus project (https://www.thevenusproject.com/) (more of a socialist approach?) I still see issues with this one & avenues for corruption to flourish.

I haven't seen any systems I'd support as of yet other than volunteerism (and only from a purely intellectual level, I'm not sure how it would functionally be implemented).

We already have modern examples that it works:
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[Bubu]

[QUOTE=Bob;1117423]

I haven't seen any systems I'd support as of yet other than volunteerism (and only from a purely intellectual level, I'm not sure how it would functionally be implemented).

We already have modern examples that it works:
wXb6bDX9FDo

Any system attempting harmony and cooperation is bound to fail unless we first reform belief systems. What I am trying to figure out is how to reform belief system. From there all good things will happen and without the need to plan or govern. volunteerism works because people who volunteer has the right belief system.

working from the core or source is a lot easier and many times effective. My take is that mans problem is a result of some groups manipulating our belief system for their agendas. Thus the solution would be to neutralize the group and reform belief system. So now how do we neutralize this entities? We need numbers. a mass of awakened individuals. education is the solution and the best way to do it is by example. we go back to "be the change you wanted to see". And the good thing about it is you get your reward outright.

[ghostrider]

I must strongly disagree... communism is a path to suffering ... the human being will always yearn for freedom... one person telling everyone else what they can and cannot do , history teaches us that way fails in every time it is tried... jehovah and Allah have been trying for over 2,000 years and all it has done is create hatred, war, and suffering ... the way to save the world is each person being responsible for themslves, for thir thoughts , actions, and feelings... limiting what they choose so as not to cause harm to others ... freedom , love, harmony , peace is the way , as long as we look to anything outside self responsibility the world will continue to stumble around in the darkness , like it has for 389,000 years , cultures rise and fall , kings, idols, leaders come and go, at the end of it all , its the sum of the choices of the person in the mirror, incorrect thinking leading to bad choices, leading to the law of causality... you reap what you sow ...you grow what you plant, you live in the words you speak , you speak from your thoughts, correct thnking is the starting point, the ETs say we have 740 more years before we get it ...the answer is inside you, waiting, that still small inner voice ...

[xidaijena]

Thank you for your kind words, dear Bill.

[Baby Steps]

METHERNITHA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methernitha

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/methnith.htm

[Lancet]

I commend Xidaijena for sharing her experience. I think we should be less judgmental and more supportive of any effort that strives for a more holistic living. If anything I see this as an enriching experience.

Any system of governance, as long as it is hierarchical as opposed to holographic, can be abused. I think it is safe to say that neither democracy, monarchy, communism, fascism and socialism are ideal systems.

I would suggest that we start with working on improving ourselves and being the best we can be. It starts with the individual. Any society starts with the individual as its building blocks.

i added this short video about tending gardens. Perhaps systems of governance can be likened to gardens. If we make the garden impeccable... it matters not the system.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8a3abG5ND8

[christian]

In the English language, 'Communism' is rather a 'loaded' word, as we say.

It has so many connotations and so much historical baggage, and often triggers so many thoughts, feelings and images, that it might be best (safer!) to use another term: maybe something like 'organized communal living'.

It must be very difficult to establish alternative communities in a country that is as unfree and controlled as China. The Chinese state is very eager to not allow people to be sovereign, therefore any creation of an alternative community seems to me like a massive feat, more so than in many other countries.

I assume that state surveillance poses a constant threat to alternative communities in China, therefore it's probably helping the cause of any alternative community in China to publicly praise 'communism,' cause it may just appease state authorities.

It's marvelous that a person from China can share her experiences about her community here on the forum with people who are mostly from a very different culture.

[Warlock]

So who is going to be in charge of this grand utopia and how much wealth are THEY going to accumulate at the expense of those that will be enslaved by this system?
:ballchain::ballchain::ballchain:

Warlock

[Flash]

So who is going to be in charge of this grand utopia and how much wealth are THEY going to accumulate at the expense of those that will be enslaved by this system?
:ballchain::ballchain::ballchain:

Warlock

Doing what they are doing is actually shaking the shackles a little, within the 'communistic" prevalence of their political party hands on.

In my book, congratulation for the good work.

However, I would call it more a community or communal work than communism because of the bad meaning communism has in the West.

[yuhui]

Communism is not just a new lifestyle and a new production system, it is a noble faith.

The communism I discuss here is very different from the communism described by Karl Max, Vladimir Lenin, and Mao Zedong. The way it realizes the communist production relationship has essential differences from the ways carried out by Lenin and Mao. Please do not jump to the conclusion that the communism I mentioned is like your previous experience and perception of the term. Marx, Lenin, and Mao, we temporarily name ours, “Xuefeng-style communism”.



Ecovillage is a better word. As used here: Acik079G-qA

Or "New Oasis", as used here: A3otewqGT70

……

[shaberon]

Well, to be fair, rather than thinking about "isms" or the Chinese state...click through the links on xidaijena's signature and there's the direct examples.

There is a pretty fair amount of New Age-y belief system, but no religion, no birthdays, no family, no organization, no crime, no newborns, at least according to them. They did tell the president of China they had successfully achieved communism. The state did shut down their locations for a year or two. Yunnan is traditionally matriarchal without the typical "nuclear family".

It sounds a lot like "volunteerism", you work six hours six days a week, basic needs are taken care of. There really didn't seem to be anything we could call "government". Now, this place is probably not going to invent the next super-computer or spaceship or anything like that, and so to some extent it will always rely on the "outside world" for materials. But over time they anticipate starting 256 locations world-wide. It wouldn't be to everyone's liking to choose such a lifestyle, but I don't see why it wouldn't work out for some.

[Warlock]

So who is going to be in charge of this grand utopia and how much wealth are THEY going to accumulate at the expense of those that will be enslaved by this system?
:ballchain::ballchain::ballchain:

Warlock

Doing what they are doing is actually shaking the shackles a little, within the 'communistic" prevalence of their political party hands on.

In my book, congratulation for the good work.

However, I would call it more a community or communal work than communism because of the bad meaning communism has in the West.

I, for one, am not buying it. In every "system", there are those few who want to rule, or lord over, the majority.
Human nature is human nature.

Warlock

[xidaijena]

Oh my, I am so sorry that I replied such simly. Just because I didn't know that I can use Google translation to get all your questions.

Now plz let me answer some of your questions.;)

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Good post - the issue is WEALTH... setting an arbitrary on someone's production and then using that as a commodity.. It is selling the SOUL really..

If we put a $$$ value on the soul then manipulation can happen. A SOUL cannot be valued, nor sold..

Capitalism creates a fake illusion than one can VALUE a SOUL.. So there are justifications, over and over, who think's one's worth is this or that..

There is NO WORTH..

Focus on that.. there is no worth..

no value, no selling.. no marketing, no delusion of worth.. focus on that.. worth means some have and some have not.. worth..

on "perceived worth" delusionary markets are created. Folks then jump on the illusion and "play the game".. And they fight tooth and nail for their 401K's or market investment.. FAKE illusion. Fake worth.. delusion to create a perceived shortage in an abundant universe.

Slavery is Capitalism. Is Fascism, IS communism too.. as long as the VALUE for SOUL remains..

Just put that in perspective. Abundance exists. Shortage manipulation is market economy.. IS capitalism... IS communism, is socialism.. Those who control RESOURCES manipulate perceived shortage.. Simple point..

Reality is, resources can be created... Not needing to be found and squandered.. This is where abundance in actual creation happens... But that is a concept way way beyond mentalities who think about only how their 401K is going to give them the illusion of any 'lasting' support..

bahhh...

Hi Bob, sorry for my poor knowleage. I can't understand or reply your questions. Hope you can forgive me. Hugs.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Capitalism is also a giant waste of resources. Meanwhile on a daily basis I notice circumstrances, where the biggest part of intellectual or labour work is spent only

- to harm/disable competitors
- to enslave users and bind them to the product/company
- to ensure further profits far beyound the real values of the producs
- to prevent cheaper technologies from being used
- to be used for military purposes, war, enslavery
- ...

Imagine, where mankind could be today, if we would use our resources for common wealth, not for private profits.
We would be able to live in paradise. Now.

So right.
But the problem is it is not easy for us to get common wealth unless we are living in one community and this community has no private wealth.

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i get it what you are saying, no question - it is that one attributes WEALTH which then puts a price on people, commodities, things, and then it allows for SCARCITY manipulation - from have's and have nots.. Abolish the concept of putting a price on someone, or something.. Without WEALTH tags, there are no Soros' or Gates for instance.. Figure out how to focus on abundance is present in the universe, that it is our job to understand how to bring that forth.. If we continue compartmentalizing such and such is worth this or that, we end up with some are "worth more" than others (citing Animal Farm for instance, depicting the communistic order of how it failed...)

What is your thinking of "worth more“， dear Bob?

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Dear Xidaijena,

I have a question.
In Western terms I think we would call this kind of model a 'Commune'

People live and work within a self supporting, sharing, barter based community.

Now in China, you have state provision of certain services. The State's ability to provide is a function of the State's ability to raise tax. Can you tell us what levels of provision are provided free to the mass of the people, in terms of Health, Education, Infrastructure et cetera?

The kind of communal living that you advocate is barter based, and achieves a good life style at a far lower rate of consumption of resources, than most models. That is because it is based on sharing.

If people live in this way, it reduces that State's ability to tax them, or reduces the amount of tax. Does the state see this as a challenge to its economic plans?

Many thanks

Yes, this is why China banned our community. They treat us as a threat.

[xidaijena]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

Sorry, I can't agree with what you say here. I think not every one knows that we are one. Even though you are living in a community ( or eco-villages), you need to solve the relationships among other members. Saying that we are one is one thing, but acting as we are one is another thing. Only you did it that I can agree with what you say.;)

[xidaijena]

I once was a communist but have realized that no "ism" or political party will save the world as already stated above. Only on the soullevel this can be solved, pple living a spiritual life connnected to source :angel:

Hence both capitalism annd communism are purely matrrialistic in their worldview

We call New Oasis for Life Community as Xuefeng's style communism in China, because in China, only we, Lifechanyuan, can build such a collective and eco community. And the reality shows that we did it.

[xidaijena]

Thanks for the beautiful pictures, xidiajena! Infinite Love is the ONLY Reality, in my own opinion, & I would say you are living it there in your community! :grouphug:

Hi dear Foxie Loxie, the problem is what Infinite Love is. In my opinion, except the almighty Creator has infinite love, human beings can't have.

Living in my community, I have to learn love myself first and care little about other members' matters.

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Capitalism is defined by (a) private property and (b) a free market. Right now, both are heavily curtailed and distorted by the state, who is influenced by agents of a corporatocracy. That's what's happening right now. Some call it crony-capitalism. Only the economically uneducated and ideologists call it capitalism, I'm sorry to say that.

Likewise, only the naive and uneducated dream of a system of global Communism. Did anyone of you read the Communist Manifesto? It says that this egalitarian system should be brought about through despotic interventions upon people's private property. In other words, make people equal through brute force, and once everybody is made equal, people will just love it and suddenly become content and altruistic like never seen before. Eternal peace through total war. Egalitarianism brought about through the wise orders of the Communist elite who's planning and guiding people's lives. Did anyone of you read George Orwell's Animal Farm? It spells it all out.

Regarding this community project, well go for it if you like it. Produce organic, that's great. If you don't want the concept of a traditional family, if you don't want to have children, if you don't like the concept of personal sovereignty, have it your way. Just don't force anybody to live like that as well. It may be good for you, but it's certainly not superior and I would never accept this lifestyle being imposed on me.

Good idea, I like what you are saying. Indeed, just choose what you like or follow your (our own ) heart.

[xidaijena]

Well said by the others, that no ism can save humanity. In fact isms & systems create more new problems. I've lived in a commune & had my ideal bubble burst by the realities of day to day life & individual egos. So even such a beautiful place like a commune is not a solution IMHO

agree with you, not every one likes commune life. To me, it really needs me to pay more attention to my own business and care less about other members' things.

We can treat others as our family members but we have to respect other members' privacy.

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Capitalism is defined by (a) private property and (b) a free market. Right now, both are heavily curtailed and distorted by the state, who is influenced by agents of a corporatocracy. That's what's happening right now. Some call it crony-capitalism. Only the economically uneducated and ideologists call it capitalism, I'm sorry to say that.

Likewise, only the naive and uneducated dream of a system of global Communism. Did anyone of you read the Communist Manifesto? It says that this egalitarian system should be brought about through despotic interventions upon people's private property. In other words, make people equal through brute force, and once everybody is made equal, people will just love it and suddenly become content and altruistic like never seen before. Eternal peace through total war. Egalitarianism brought about through the wise orders of the Communist elite who's planning and guiding people's lives. Did anyone of you read George Orwell's Animal Farm? It spells it all out.

Regarding this community project, well go for it if you like it. Produce organic, that's great. If you don't want the concept of a traditional family, if you don't want to have children, if you don't like the concept of personal sovereignty, have it your way. Just don't force anybody to live like that as well. It may be good for you, but it's certainly not superior and I would never accept this lifestyle being imposed on me.

Hi,
I agree with this but what about the evident issue of material consumption & resource limitation. China has lifted a billion people out of poverty , they now have fridges & washing machines etc. The planet cannot sustain the increasing level of consumption.

The pure free market philosophy would I hope address the pollution issue by somehow building the costs of the environmental damage into the product- those that suffered the loss to their air, water & land from contamination would have the legal redress to receive compensation. Those costs would then be built onto the products themselves. That is (kind of) a market based solution to the idea of over consumption.

Reducing environmental impact does not have to mean communism.

"Reducing environmental impact does not have to mean communism."

agree with this sentence. But I think, in order to make Mother Earth peaceful and beautiful again, it seems Lifechanyuan can solve some serious problems.

[xidaijena]

Dear Xidaijena,

I have a question.
In Western terms I think we would call this kind of model a 'Commune'

People live and work within a self supporting, sharing, barter based community.

Now in China, you have state provision of certain services. The State's ability to provide is a function of the State's ability to raise tax. Can you tell us what levels of provision are provided free to the mass of the people, in terms of Health, Education, Infrastructure et cetera?

The kind of communal living that you advocate is barter based, and achieves a good life style at a far lower rate of consumption of resources, than most models. That is because it is based on sharing.

If people live in this way, it reduces that State's ability to tax them, or reduces the amount of tax. Does the state see this as a challenge to its economic plans?

Many thanks

Yes -- many thanks to all. Xidaijena, I do appreciate you sharing all this. :star:

In the English language, 'Communism' is rather a 'loaded' word, as we say.

It has so many connotations and so much historical baggage, and often triggers so many thoughts, feelings and images, that it might be best (safer!) to use another term: maybe something like 'organized communal living'. I do know that this is what you're describing here.

Thank you for your kind suggestion, dear Bill. yes, you are right, in your culture and other countries' culture, I think "organized communal living" is better than the word "communism". But you know, we are Chinese and Guide Xuefeng was a party member of CCP. Guide Xuefeng was rebron by the spirit of the Greatest Creator and then built Lifechanyuan. His goal or dream is to build a true Communism in China and for all the people around the world. Traditional Communism has no belief in God or Buddha. So, many Chinese govenment treated Chair Mao as God. They are atheists. This is also the reason why many of Chinese people are with less faith and honesty.

But Lifechanyuan is different. Guide Xuefeng knows the deep reason that why Chinese people become this and he wants to save more and more Chinese people. So there are more and more honest and faithful chanyuan members appearing.

[xidaijena]

Only Character can save mankind.

If Jesus, Buddha or any other figure with high moral fiber were the supreme ruler of planet earth, the planet and its citizens would be in much better off in that scenario than a true democratic society of average folk with inconsistent motives.

Hi bearcow, I can't agree with you. I think only programme or good life programme can save mankind. Jesus and Buddha are great teachers. They are sharing the light of the Greatest Creator. But in my eyes, only Lifechanyuan, Only Xuefeng and chanyuan members did create a new life programme for all human benings on Mother Earth. Can you find any good Character person to work without any money and always devote his passion to build a new life model for human beings?;)

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what about the evident issue of material consumption & resource limitation. China has lifted a billion people out of poverty , they now have fridges & washing machines etc. The planet cannot sustain the increasing level of consumption.

The pure free market philosophy would I hope address the pollution issue by somehow building the costs of the environmental damage into the product- those that suffered the loss to their air, water & land from contamination would have the legal redress to receive compensation. Those costs would then be built onto the products themselves. That is (kind of) a market based solution to the idea of over consumption.

Reducing environmental impact does not have to mean communism.

China is trapping a billion people in poverty. China is the biggest hellhole when it comes to the environment. And it's all sanctioned by the Communist party. The country is literally spilling over with toxins.

In a free market system, anyone who causes any damage to someone's property will be held accountable and has to pay the price. This is unlike what we see today, where corporations often lobby governments to get a free pass while littering the planet.

Overcoming the cronyism of the corporatocracy means making a step towards sustainability. Establishing a free market system means establishing the framework in which each individual and corporation is held accountable for their environmental impact. Exactly what you say. Environmentalism is best served by free markets, cause on a free market scarce goods are more expensive and will thus be spared more than not so scarce goods. But for that to work, there better not be governments and lobbyists, no distortion of prices, no subsidies, no free passes.

If you want to reduce the environmental impact even more, by decree, if you're arguing in favor of telling others how to deal with their property, you have to realize that you're arguing in favor of brute force against people who don't cause any direct harm to you or another. Brute force, just because the person doesn't live like you think it would be good. Now ask yourself if that's really making things better.

This is why China has Lifechanyuan.:handshake:

[xidaijena]

Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

The question is that how do people realize that we are one?

I agree that the kind of lifestyle you describe above will awaken our innate nature of caring and sharing which has been dormant due to brainwashing. However it has a part that is of negative brainwashing and that is saying that "only communism can save mankind. Why cant we just say "only caring loving and sharing can save mankind". My take is that since we have been brainwashed to make our innate nature (positive virtues) dormant then maybe we can use the same procedure "positive brainwashing" to make people realize we are one.

" Why cant we just say "only caring loving and sharing can save mankind".

Hi Bubu, because, caring, loving, sharing can not save mankind. Sometimes, we need to be selfish. plz let me share one article written by Xuefeng with you:

”为别人而活的人最自私

雪峰


　　世人历来歌颂那些为别人而活的人，所以，世界充满了谎言和欺诈。

　　那些声称为他人而活的人，都是自私自利的人，都是虚伪的人，都是“罪犯”。

　　每一个事物，每一个生命，必须保持自己的个性，这是上帝创造万事万物的初衷，如果桃树不结桃子，非要为葡萄树活着，本身就活错了，不仅丧失了作为桃树的价值，也是粗暴地干涉了葡萄树的天性和自由。一个人，首先 要爱惜自己，张扬自己的天性，如若不是这样，他就违背了上帝意愿。

　　每一个分子，都会全力维护自己的结构，都必须自私，否则，宇宙就会变回到无极状态，每一个生命，都必须全力维护自己的存在，否则，生命会绝迹。每一个人，都必须首先要保证自己的存活，否则，“天诛 地灭”。

　　事实是，天下根本就没有几个彻底为他人而活的人，骨子里都是为了自己。如果谁声称自己是为别人活着，此人是在撒谎，是在掩饰自己自私的本性。

　　天下有没有为人民而活着的皇帝？没有，一个也没有。

　　天下有没有为子女而活着的父母？没有，一个也没有。

　　基督耶稣，佛陀释迦牟尼是为别人而活着吗？根本不是。

　　作为生命禅院导游，我整天忙忙碌碌为开创生命禅院时代奔波，是为了别人吗？根本不是，我是为了成就自己。

　　只要挖出每个人活着的根，我们会发现，人都是为自己而活着。

　　哪些人喜欢声称自己是为别人而活着？

　　虚伪狡诈的人、无能的人、没有独立意识的人、自私自利的人、大奸大猾的人、想把自己的意志强加于人的人、善于撒谎的人、想控制人的人、不尊重人的人、想把自己的过错和失误推卸给他人的人、想摧残和压榨他人的人 、喜欢干涉他人生活的人，这样的人们，都喜欢声称自己是为他人而活着。

　　让每一个人都活他自己，让每一个人都按照自己的天性活出自己，如此，才能群星灿烂，百花齐放，精彩纷呈，气象万千。

　　为什么说声称自己是为他人而活的人是“罪犯”？

　　一、你无形中在给他人增加精神和心灵的负担，让人感恩戴德，一辈子为你效劳。

　　二、你粗暴地干涉了他人的天性和自由，使人内疚，惭愧，使人的天性难以绽放。

　　三、你扰乱了道的运行程序，使社会无序混乱，使谎言和欺骗风行于世。

　　每个人只有为自己负责，先把自己活好，活出自己的天性，活出自己的风采，社会才会有序，才会祥和，才会温馨。

　　只有为自己负责的人才会为别人负责，只有为自己活着的人才会尊重他人体谅他人理解他人，只有先活好自己的人才会给他人带来开心快乐自由幸福。

　　一个不知道自己是谁，一个自身不完美的人，忌妒、比较、怨恨、埋怨、抱怨、生气、愤恨、喜欢争斗的人，你能为他人带来什么？你怎么为他人生活？一个连自己的生存问题解决不了，连自己的苦恼痛苦化解不了的人，你 能为别人做什么？能为别人活出什么？

　　雪峰提倡人人为自己负责，为自己而活，事事先替自己着想打算，先活好自己，不要先考虑他人的感受，不要为他人而丧失自己，会不会导致社会无序混乱？

　　事实胜于雄辩！

　　生命禅院创办的第二家园生活模式中，近百人在一起生活，人人按照上述规范生活，“不操别人的心，不管别人的事”，“人不求我不助之”，先考虑自己，一年多的实践如何呢？——祥和温馨，井然有序，人人开心，个个 自由，犹如生活在天堂。

　　人要造福，就先活好自己；人要造孽，就先为别人活吧！

　　2010/7/3“

The most selfish are those who live for others

Xuefeng

(Translated by Treasure and Edited by Kaer)


The world always sings praises for those who live for others, therefore the world is full of lies and deceit. Those who claim to live for others are selfish and hypocritical; they are “criminals”.

Every thing and every life must maintain its individual character. This was the intention of the Greatest Creator when all was created.

It is wrong for the peach tree to live for the grapevine instead of producing peaches, as not only does it lose its value as a peach tree, but it also interferes rudely with the nature and freedom of the grapevine.

To be a human, one should first cherish themself and promote their own nature and personality. If not, they disobey the will of the Greatest Creator.

Every molecule must maintain its structure; it must be selfish or the universe will regress to its random state. Every life must struggle to maintain itself or they would go extinct. Every person must ensure their own survival first or the devil wins!

It is a fact that very few people live completely for others, but for themselves by nature. Anyone who claims to live for others is lying and is concealing their true, selfish nature.

Is there an emperor who lives for the people within his jurisdiction? No, none!

Is there a parent who lives for their children? No, none!

Did Christ Jesus and the Buddha Sakyamuni live for others? No, not at all!

As the guide of Lifechanyuan, I keep myself busy with the creation of the Lifechanyuan era. Do I do it for others? Not at all, I do this for my own achievement. As long as the reason for living is spelled out for everyone, we find that people live for themselves.

What kind of people claim to live for others? Those who are false, crafty, incompetent, and without a sense of independence. Those who are selfish and deceitful want to impose their will on others and those who are good at lying intend to control and disrespect others. Those who put their own faults and blame on others want to use and abuse others and they prefer to interfere with others’ lives. Those are the kind of people who claim they live for others. Let everyone live for themselves and let everyone live upon themselves according to their own nature. In such a situation, the stars will shine brilliantly, the flowers will blossom lively, and the world will be prosperous, diverse, and splendid.

Why do I say those are “criminals” who claimed that they live for others?

Firstly, they burden the spirits and souls of others because people would feel a great deal of gratitude and a need to serve them, perhaps all their lives. Secondly, they rudely interfere with the nature and freedom of others and make them feel guilt and shame, so it becomes impossible for their natures to bloom. Thirdly, they disturb the program running with Tao, create social disorder, and make lies and deception popular.

It is only when everyone is responsible for themselves that they live well by themselves within their own natures and by their own styles that society will be orderly, peaceful, and warm. Only those who can stand responsibility on their own can be responsible for others and only those who are living for themselves will respect others, be considerate of others, and understand others. Only those who live well by themselves will bring pleasure, joy, freedom, and happiness to others.

If you do not know who you are, if you are an imperfect person filled with jealousy, ego, resentment, complaints, anger, and aggression, then what can you possibly bring to others? How can you live for others? If you are unable to even deal with your own issues of life and are unable to smooth away your own trouble and pain, then what can you do for others and how can you live for others?

Xuefeng advocates for everyone to be responsible for themselves first, live for themselves first, consider themselves first, live well by themselves first, and not to consider the feelings of others or lose yourself for them. Would it lead to a social disorder? Facts speak louder than words!

In the second home life pattern founded by Lifechanyuan, nearly one hundred people live together and everyone lives according to the above standard, “Do not bother with others or regard other people’s business” and “I will not help unless help is asked for”. We just consider ourselves first. How has this practice gone on for more than nine years? Everything is in order, everyone is happy and free, and we are living in a peaceful and sociable paradise. People who want to confer benefit on society should live for themselves first and people who want to commit sin should live for others!

July 3rd 2010

[xidaijena]

Xidaijena, hello.

I saw this article that this particular Chinese government is committing what appears to be human rights violations, forcibly displacing citizens in a very pretty area. Apparently the citizens had no say in the matter, kicked out, and not compensated in any fair and acceptable way. Seems to me a government based on those "Communistic Principles" that can do that really is not so nice? If the State says 'this is how it will be' there is no freedom to say otherwise, correct? Haven't we seen this sort of State-organized abuse before, communities being kicked out because the State wants something, and the people can not say otherwise? In other words, there is no EQUALITY across the board, there are superiors who set policy and there are workers who serve that superior, right?


China is creating/building a massive Five-hundred-metre Aperture Spherical Telescope (FAST) in the country's southwest, which began operations in September and cost 1.2 billion yuan ($180 million) to build, is the world's largest radio telescope.

Once fully operational, FAST will be able to peer deeper into space than ever before, examining pulsars, dark matter and gravitational waves—and searching for signs of life.

Authorities also hope it will bring tourist dollars to the province of Guizhou, one of China's poorest regions.

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But it comes at the cost of forcibly displacing about 9,000 villagers who called the site in Pingtang county their home.

Many were outraged at being forced to leave the valley surrounded by forested karst hills and hundreds of families are now suing the government, with some cases being heard this week.
Octogenarian Han Jingfu drank pesticide days after being made to sign a relocation contract and died at his front door, neighbours and relatives said.

China built FAST as part of efforts to take on international rivals and raise its embarrassingly low tally of Nobel Prizes, explained Peng Bo, director of China's National Astronomical Observatories, which oversees the telescope.

The 500-metre-wide (1,640 feet) dish dwarfs its nearest competitor, the US's Puerto Rico-based Arecibo telescope, which is only 305 metres across.


Source article at: http://phys.org/news/2016-11-aliens-thousands-displaced-china-huge.html#jCp


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The Guardian (UK) said this:


Massive relocation projects have long been a Communist party specialty.

Millions of Chinese citizens have been displaced in recent decades to make way for hydro-electric dams and other infrastructure projects or as part of “poverty alleviation” schemes.

Those forced from their homes often complain of poor compensation.



It just seems that in reality, looking at projects such as this and more massive, under the concept that "Only Communism Can Save Mankind", poverty is not alleviated, citizens displaced, and a "glorious" technological Communist party reigns supreme over citizens. The OP title thread says "Only Communism can Save mankind" - with such projects abuse apparently of human rights, property/land, it seems contradictory and glossing over issues such as technological advancement at the expense of humanity. What am I missing?

If the existing "Communism" system as applied in China currently is not "working as it 'should' " would the people then up-rise and overthrow the unworkable parts of the system? In other words, force Xuefeng-style communism on the government, the population, taking apart that unworkable existing system? How can a peaceful revolution/evolution evoke positive change against those who forcibly harm it's citizens?

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I see doing a websearch, provided this link with answers provided by members:
http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5544

We never push or force others to accept our values. Those people who like our lifechanyuan values will follow us on their free will.

[xidaijena]

I must strongly disagree... communism is a path to suffering ... the human being will always yearn for freedom... one person telling everyone else what they can and cannot do , history teaches us that way fails in every time it is tried... jehovah and Allah have been trying for over 2,000 years and all it has done is create hatred, war, and suffering ... the way to save the world is each person being responsible for themslves, for thir thoughts , actions, and feelings... limiting what they choose so as not to cause harm to others ... freedom , love, harmony , peace is the way , as long as we look to anything outside self responsibility the world will continue to stumble around in the darkness , like it has for 389,000 years , cultures rise and fall , kings, idols, leaders come and go, at the end of it all , its the sum of the choices of the person in the mirror, incorrect thinking leading to bad choices, leading to the law of causality... you reap what you sow ...you grow what you plant, you live in the words you speak , you speak from your thoughts, correct thnking is the starting point, the ETs say we have 740 more years before we get it ...the answer is inside you, waiting, that still small inner voice ...


Hi dear friend, how about now? I mean, you still think your opinion are right?
Maybe you can have a watch our videos.
https://www.youtube.com/c/Lifechanyuan

May the Greatest Creator bless you.

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In the English language, 'Communism' is rather a 'loaded' word, as we say.

It has so many connotations and so much historical baggage, and often triggers so many thoughts, feelings and images, that it might be best (safer!) to use another term: maybe something like 'organized communal living'.

It must be very difficult to establish alternative communities in a country that is as unfree and controlled as China. The Chinese state is very eager to not allow people to be sovereign, therefore any creation of an alternative community seems to me like a massive feat, more so than in many other countries.

I assume that state surveillance poses a constant threat to alternative communities in China, therefore it's probably helping the cause of any alternative community in China to publicly praise 'communism,' cause it may just appease state authorities.

It's marvelous that a person from China can share her experiences about her community here on the forum with people who are mostly from a very different culture.

Thank you, dear friend. This is also the reason that I want to thank Bill for giving me the chance to share.:handshake:

[xidaijena]

So who is going to be in charge of this grand utopia and how much wealth are THEY going to accumulate at the expense of those that will be enslaved by this system?
:ballchain::ballchain::ballchain:

Warlock

Guide Xuefeng will be in charge of this grand utopia and every member has the chance to freely use money in the community. But few members will use. Because, we are already having everything in the community. You can ask the member who is in charge of procurement to buy anything you need.

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Well, to be fair, rather than thinking about "isms" or the Chinese state...click through the links on xidaijena's signature and there's the direct examples.

There is a pretty fair amount of New Age-y belief system, but no religion, no birthdays, no family, no organization, no crime, no newborns, at least according to them. They did tell the president of China they had successfully achieved communism. The state did shut down their locations for a year or two. Yunnan is traditionally matriarchal without the typical "nuclear family".

It sounds a lot like "volunteerism", you work six hours six days a week, basic needs are taken care of. There really didn't seem to be anything we could call "government". Now, this place is probably not going to invent the next super-computer or spaceship or anything like that, and so to some extent it will always rely on the "outside world" for materials. But over time they anticipate starting 256 locations world-wide. It wouldn't be to everyone's liking to choose such a lifestyle, but I don't see why it wouldn't work out for some.

I hope there will be a branch of New Oasis for Life Community in US.

[Merkaba360]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

Sorry, I can't agree with what you say here. I think not every one knows that we are one. Even though you are living in a community ( or eco-villages), you need to solve the relationships among other members. Saying that we are one is one thing, but acting as we are one is another thing. Only you did it that I can agree with what you say.;)

He is correct. The point is that it doesn't matter what model we come up with, its the illusion that keeps corrupting everything. The illusion of separation must be overcome for true peace and sharing, because you are only giving to yourself by sharing. We need to have enough people reach the "Yellow" Stage of pyschological development (Sprial Dynamics). This is the stage of integration of opposites. Breaking the illusion of duality. Last I heard about 15 years ago, maybe 3% of the west achieved that stage.

I can build a utopia community of 10 people. That is not much of a reality. Its not hard to find 10 highly evolved beings to do that. THe problem is large scale. How are you going to stop the psychopaths and crazed egomaniacs from ruining everything? They have all the power and resources already.

Even if you take 1000 amazing people and build a perfect community, you are building an All-Star team of 1000 people from 8 billion. lol It is like picking the top 1000 musicians and saying, look what everyone can achieve thru music. The people with no musical talent will need to have a massive psychological awakening in order to develop like those 1000 All-Star musicians.

Yes, it could set an example and grow from there like a seed. But, billions of buffoons are mind controlled and are very very greedy.

[Agape]

Xidaijena and the rest of Celestials,


I trust you mean well but there is lots we have learned about today’s human society already, your vision is too big to be contained in short time,
outside of modern China,
small communities can be built on similar ideals and survive long as possible,
small and even partially self sustainable communities

but we all depend on the larger whole
where you inevitably bump into predators of human race.

Anyone who try to claim the power of heaven and earth at uneven times were hosted out of their own residencies and empires, be they metaphorical ,
and sent to wander to the world out there,

the not so safe , not so well baked bullion headed world out there
to get a full experience and appreciation of human life and mind.

True to your high ideals, ultimately the choice always rests upon the people.



Peace to you 🙏🌟🙏🕊🕊🕊 and many blessings on your Way,
that’s only one.

[Merkaba360]

If Xuefeng is in charge, its not really a utopia. Heirachies are not very advanced. If the body had to wait on a Chief Neuron to make decisions for the whole body, it would be dead instantly. A holoarchy is an interconnected network with nobody in charge and everyone empowered, although i suppose could have some degree of leadership. The body is a holoarchy, since its far more complex than our government systems. A heirarchy will collapse after a certain level of complexity.

If the Xuefeng community becomes highly successful, grows and starts gaining power and influence. Let the attacks begin. Infiltration and endless resources and advanced tech to make sure the "Utopia" will not be competition or threat to the overlords. lol

[Ernie Nemeth]

Unlike Capitalism, that can operate in any environment alongside any other method of commerce, for communism to actually work properly it must be global and the only system sanctioned.

If one has become immersed in capitalism, where the merits of an individual determine their advancement, communism seems like the preferred method of the lazy and non-ambitious.

Nothing builds wealth faster than unbridled and unmitigated greed. Capitalism fosters just those qualities. Communism emphasizes cooperation and rejects personal ownership and gives to each according to their needs. Who is more needy than the needy? So one system uplifts the poor, the other system uplifts the wealthy. If both co-exist, which do you think will gather more wealth faster?

For these reasons and many more, the communists are the globalists and their objective is to destroy the capitalist market of the 'free' world and impose their communist playbook upon the world. If they are successful we will not like the transition not one bit...

A form of communism might be the ideal way forward but there will always be those who wish to 'capitalize' on their ideas and hoard the profits for themselves. In a communist world such individuals will have to be eliminated. The problem with that is that those individuals are the personification of 'individualism' - the first victim of communism.

[xidaijena]

In simple terms people caring and people sharing is what everyone needs to do. Dont understand why we have to complicate things. communism socialism and all the ism are merely labels. Fact is no "ism" can save humanity. People realizing that we are one can.

Sorry, I can't agree with what you say here. I think not every one knows that we are one. Even though you are living in a community ( or eco-villages), you need to solve the relationships among other members. Saying that we are one is one thing, but acting as we are one is another thing. Only you did it that I can agree with what you say.;)

He is correct. The point is that it doesn't matter what model we come up with, its the illusion that keeps corrupting everything. The illusion of separation must be overcome for true peace and sharing, because you are only giving to yourself by sharing. We need to have enough people reach the "Yellow" Stage of pyschological development (Sprial Dynamics). This is the stage of integration of opposites. Breaking the illusion of duality. Last I heard about 15 years ago, maybe 3% of the west achieved that stage.

I can build a utopia community of 10 people. That is not much of a reality. Its not hard to find 10 highly evolved beings to do that. THe problem is large scale. How are you going to stop the psychopaths and crazed egomaniacs from ruining everything? They have all the power and resources already.

Even if you take 1000 amazing people and build a perfect community, you are building an All-Star team of 1000 people from 8 billion. lol It is like picking the top 1000 musicians and saying, look what everyone can achieve thru music. The people with no musical talent will need to have a massive psychological awakening in order to develop like those 1000 All-Star musicians.

Yes, it could set an example and grow from there like a seed. But, billions of buffoons are mind controlled and are very very greedy.

Hi Merkaba360, thank you for your questions. I value them a lot.

So this is why we shall learn Lifechanyuan values and perfect our soul garden. And besides, our community can't have 1000 people in every branch. The maximum number of each branch will less than 300 people. This is Xuefeng's demand. He tells us it is copied from the thousand-year world. and every member will live in every branch only for three years. so this may reduce the problem you mean.

How to solve the problem you mention?

1. First: learn 800 values for New Era Human Being and Xuefeng's Articles
https://chanyuan.org/guide/fe811c90a1c411e88dc810f005716da3

2. Second: Live in the New Oasis for Life Communities
https://chanyuan.org/guide/dc09cb64c0f111eab31b560002b98003/4e51732022fb11e9aee5befb453e417e

Only living in it, you can meet the people who share the same values and have some nice hobbies. You will work with them, play with them and sublimate with them together. You just need to do one job that you like, and we will have monthly party to let you learn how to sing and dance, we also have games for you to happily play. The most important thing is that you can find true love without any conditions. Sex and Love is free in our community, but when you want to control somebody, you will feel guity in your heart and if you hurt somebody's heart or body, you will be out from the community.We also have life meetings to solve daily problems.

BTW...We will and hope to build 256 branches of our communities around the world. So you may know, if you are one of our members, you will have many chance to visit different places' views and meet so many nice people. So, your love and frequency will surely get improved, right?

Hope my answer can help you to undersrtand more about our community. Thank you so much.

[xidaijena]

Xidaijena and the rest of Celestials,


I trust you mean well but there is lots we have learned about today’s human society already, your vision is too big to be contained in short time,
outside of modern China,
small communities can be built on similar ideals and survive long as possible,
small and even partially self sustainable communities

but we all depend on the larger whole
where you inevitably bump into predators of human race.

Anyone who try to claim the power of heaven and earth at uneven times were hosted out of their own residencies and empires, be they metaphorical ,
and sent to wander to the world out there,

the not so safe , not so well baked bullion headed world out there
to get a full experience and appreciation of human life and mind.

True to your high ideals, ultimately the choice always rests upon the people.



Peace to you 🙏🌟🙏🕊🕊🕊 and many blessings on your Way,
that’s only one.

"the not so safe , not so well baked bullion headed world out there
to get a full experience and appreciation of human life and mind."

Hi Agape, thank you for you kind words and concern, I got you. But plz understand, we, Lifechanyuan and chanyuan members are not normal persons who are just wanting to live a greedy life. Our wish is to build a new life model for all human beings to make Mother Earth become a paradise. I know that, there will be large people not accepting our life model. they can't live simple life as we do. We just look for small number of kind people who are from heaven. They will and already did what we do. Just like the Thailand branch, there are already many Buddists doing and liking our lifemodel. We just need to find them. Besides, there are also many people contacting me from China or other countries, they are also liking our community. I do believe that the Greatest Creator will help us and Tao (the consciousness /will of the Greatest Creator) will arrange. We, chanyuan memebers, are just doing what we shall do.

g1HIUzc5FDM

[onawah]

You appear to have come to the Project Avalon forum with a personal agenda to push, which is really not what this forum is for.
I hope you will save us all some time and effort by finding a better venue for your purpose, but I think you will find this is not the place.


Hi Merkaba360, thank you for your questions. I value them a lot.

So this is why we shall learn Lifechanyuan values and perfect our soul garden. And besides, our community can't have 1000 people in every branch. The maximum number of each branch will less than 300 people. This is Xuefeng's demand. He tells us it is copied from the thousand-year world. and every member will live in every branch only for three years. so this may reduce the problem you mean.

How to solve the problem you mention?

1. First: learn 800 values for New Era Human Being and Xuefeng's Articles
https://chanyuan.org/guide/fe811c90a1c411e88dc810f005716da3

2. Second: Live in the New Oasis for Life Communities
https://chanyuan.org/guide/dc09cb64c0f111eab31b560002b98003/4e51732022fb11e9aee5befb453e417e

Only living in it, you can meet the people who share the same values and have some nice hobbies. You will work with them, play with them and sublimate with them together. You just need to do one job that you like, and we will have monthly party to let you learn how to sing and dance, we also have games for you to happily play. The most important thing is that you can find true love without any conditions. Sex and Love is free in our community, but when you want to control somebody, you will feel guity in your heart and if you hurt somebody's heart or body, you will be out from the community.We also have life meetings to solve daily problems.

BTW...We will and hope to build 256 branches of our communities around the world. So you may know, if you are one of our members, you will have many chance to visit different places' views and meet so many nice people. So, your love and frequency will surely get improved, right?

Hope my answer can help you to undersrtand more about our community. Thank you so much.

[xidaijena]

If Xuefeng is in charge, its not really a utopia. Heirachies are not very advanced. If the body had to wait on a Chief Neuron to make decisions for the whole body, it would be dead instantly. A holoarchy is an interconnected network with nobody in charge and everyone empowered, although i suppose could have some degree of leadership. The body is a holoarchy, since its far more complex than our government systems. A heirarchy will collapse after a certain level of complexity.

If the Xuefeng community becomes highly successful, grows and starts gaining power and influence. Let the attacks begin. Infiltration and endless resources and advanced tech to make sure the "Utopia" will not be competition or threat to the overlords. lol

Hi Merkaba360, your questions are sharp but I do like to answer simply.

First, Guide Xuefeng is the founder of Lifechanyuan Community, but he is also a chanyuan member.
In society, the person who has the money has the power.
But in our community, money is open or public in the inner webbsite. Money can only be used for the communities.
Guide Xuefeng once worked in Zimbabwe and denated one million RMB to build the community in Yunnan, and now he is still working for Canada branch with his wife. and make money for the whole community.

In the community, he only has the right to write articles and point out some members' problem, but whether the member can correct or notice his/her problem, it still depends on himself/herself. Besides, Guide Xuefeng is also an imperfect person. He also needs chanyuan members to find his faults. Who are Lifechanyuan's boss? I think, the Greatest Cretaor is. Why do I say so? Because, our heart will tell you it is true. Because we do believe in the Greatest Creator, we are already seeing and noticing the power of the Greatest Creator. When we do the right things, we will feel happy in our heart and feel grateful to the Greatest Creator. But when we do wrong things, we will feel painful in our heart and may get sick. This is also the law of Karma of punishment of the Tao. So I guess, all of you are luckier than us who are Chinese people. The Greatest Creator is strict to Chinese people in somehow.:facepalm:

[xidaijena]

Unlike Capitalism, that can operate in any environment alongside any other method of commerce, for communism to actually work properly it must be global and the only system sanctioned.

If one has become immersed in capitalism, where the merits of an individual determine their advancement, communism seems like the preferred method of the lazy and non-ambitious.

Nothing builds wealth faster than unbridled and unmitigated greed. Capitalism fosters just those qualities. Communism emphasizes cooperation and rejects personal ownership and gives to each according to their needs. Who is more needy than the needy? So one system uplifts the poor, the other system uplifts the wealthy. If both co-exist, which do you think will gather more wealth faster?

For these reasons and many more, the communists are the globalists and their objective is to destroy the capitalist market of the 'free' world and impose their communist playbook upon the world. If they are successful we will not like the transition not one bit...

A form of communism might be the ideal way forward but there will always be those who wish to 'capitalize' on their ideas and hoard the profits for themselves. In a communist world such individuals will have to be eliminated. The problem with that is that those individuals are the personification of 'individualism' - the first victim of communism.

Hi Ernie Nemeth, plz allow me to use one of Guide Xuefeng's article to reply your question, okay? To be honest, your questions are difficult for me to think. Becasue, I do care little about capitalism. Hope you can forgive my simple thinking.:blushing:

这个共产主义社区不仇富
雪峰

一提起共产主义，有些人想当然地认为就是“共产共妻”，其实不是那样的，比如生命禅院创建的第二家园这个共产主义社区就不“共产共妻”。
首先，这个共产主义社区里没有婚姻和家庭，所以不存在夫妻关系，既然没有夫妻关系，当然就没有“共妻”现象。
其次，这个共产主义社区内部，一切属于家园所有，社区生活的成员一律做到了一无所有拥有一切，但没有实行强制的“共产”，也就是说，成员愿意给家园奉献，欢迎！若不愿意奉献，你可以保持你自己的财产，这一切都完全 建立在自觉自愿的基础之上。对于家园外部，我们不仇富，不提倡以任何借口和理由去剥夺甚至抢夺富人的利益。
平均主义是社会最大的剥削和不公正，“均贫富”心理和做法不仅伤害靠勤劳创造积累了财富的富人，更是对社会生产力和创造性的极大破坏，维护富人们的利益就是维护社会的公正。
积累财富不是一件简单容易的事，拥有财富的人比没有财富的人要付出更多的艰辛，要冒更大的风险，要克服更多的困难，要动更多的心思，要有更多的创造，他们创造财富的过程就是为社会奉献的过程，一个公正的社会，应当 是富人越多越好。
所以，我们这个共产主义社区的存在与社会上富人的存在没有一点矛盾，我们没有仇富心理，相反，我们尊重靠勤劳、智慧、节俭、创造积累了财富的富人们，这就像牡丹和玫瑰，可以和谐地共存于社会中。
我们永远不会去做剥夺富人利益的事，相反，我们维护富人的利益不受侵犯，因为我们也是富人，我们的富裕主要体现在精神和心灵领域，一个精神和心灵领域富足的共产主义社区不会去伤害物质上富足的人们。
社会应该是多元化的，不应该千篇一律，应该允许各种生产和生活方式的存在，不应该搞“一刀切，”公民愿意过什么样的生活，应当给予选择的权力，政府不应当“打土豪，分田地，”谁愿意过传统的婚姻家庭生活，就让他们 过，谁愿意过共产主义生活，就让他们过，谁愿意一辈子独身，应当受到尊重，谁愿意勤奋劳作创造过资本主义生活，也应当受到尊重。
消灭资本主义，绝对是错误的思想和做法，那是对勤劳者和善于创造者的打击和摧残，是对社会生产力的极大破坏，不符合自然法则。
消灭共产主义，绝对是人类史上最野蛮、最残忍、最无情的思想和做法，那是对广大勤劳、善良、纯朴、守信、真诚者美好心灵的摧残和亵渎，是人间最没有仁慈心的表现，是没有人性的标志，必然会导致社会的混乱和暴力，使 社会失去正常的秩序，结果是谁也活不好。
人类社会的文明发展到今天，一切事务应当以人为中心展开，所有的法律法规想法做法都应当最大限度做到不伤害人，和谐永远是文明发展的主题，而和谐，主要是人与人之间的和谐，只要人与人之间和谐，社会就会和谐，只要 社会和谐，人与大自然的关系就能做到和谐。
发展经济，要靠富人，穷人是发展不了经济的，所以，社会要尊重富人。
保障社会的和谐稳定长治久安，要靠共产主义，富人是保障不了社会的和谐稳定和长治久安的，所以，要鼓励和发展共产主义社区。
2013/5/16

Google Translation:

This communist community does not hate the rich
Xuefeng

When it comes to communism, some people take it for granted that it is a "communist communist wife", but it is not like that. For example, the communist community, the second home created by the Life Zen Academy, is not a "communist communist wife."
First of all, there is no marriage or family in this communist community, so there is no husband and wife relationship. Since there is no husband and wife relationship, of course there is no "co-wife" phenomenon.
Secondly, in this communist community, everything belongs to the homeland. All members of the community have achieved nothing and everything, but there is no compulsory "community", that is, members are willing to contribute to their homeland, welcome! If you are unwilling to give, you can keep your own property, all of which are based entirely on voluntariness. Regarding the outside of our homeland, we do not hate the rich, and do not advocate depriving or even snatching the interests of the rich with any excuses and reasons.
Equalitarianism is the greatest exploitation and injustice in society. The psychology and practice of "equalizing the rich and the poor" not only harms the rich who have accumulated wealth through hard work, but also greatly destroys social productivity and creativity. Safeguarding the interests of the rich is safeguarding Social justice.
It is not a simple and easy task to accumulate wealth. People with wealth have to pay more hardships, take greater risks, overcome more difficulties, move more thoughts, and have more thoughts than those without wealth. More creation, their process of creating wealth is a process of dedication to the society, a just society should have more rich people, the better.
Therefore, there is no contradiction between the existence of our communist community and the existence of the rich in society. We do not have the psychology of hatred for the rich. On the contrary, we respect the rich who have accumulated wealth through hard work, wisdom, frugality, and creation, just like peony and Roses can coexist harmoniously in society.
We will never do things that deprive the rich of the interests of the rich. On the contrary, we protect the interests of the rich from infringement, because we are also rich. Our wealth is mainly reflected in the spiritual and spiritual realms, a communist that is rich in spiritual and spiritual realms. The socialist community will not harm materially rich people.
Society should be diversified, should not be the same, should allow the existence of various production and lifestyles, should not engage in "one size fits all," what kind of life citizens are willing to live, should be given the right to choose, and the government should not "beat local tyrants," Divide the fields, "Whoever wants to live a traditional marriage and family life, let them live, whoever wants to live a communist life, let them live, whoever wants to be single for a lifetime should be respected, and whoever is willing to work hard to create a capitalist life, also Should be respected.
The elimination of capitalism is absolutely wrong thinking and practice. It is a blow and destruction to the hardworking and good creators, a great destruction of social productivity, and does not conform to the laws of nature.
The elimination of communism is definitely the most barbaric, cruel, and ruthless thought and practice in human history. It is the destruction and blasphemy of the beautiful hearts of the industrious, kind, innocent, trustworthy, and sincere, and it is the most unkind expression in the world. , Is a sign of inhumanity, it will inevitably lead to social chaos and violence, causing society to lose its normal order, and as a result, no one can live well.
The civilization of human society has developed to this day, all affairs should be people-centered, and all laws, regulations, ideas and practices should be done to the greatest extent not to harm people. Harmony is always the theme of civilization development, and harmony is mainly between people. As long as people are harmonious, society will be harmonious. As long as society is harmonious, the relationship between man and nature can be harmonious.
The development of the economy depends on the rich. The poor cannot develop the economy. Therefore, the society must respect the rich.
To ensure the harmony and stability of the society, we must rely on communism. The rich cannot guarantee the harmony, stability and long-term stability of the society. Therefore, we must encourage and develop the communist community.
2013/5/16

[xidaijena]

You appear to have come to the Project Avalon forum with a personal agenda to push, which is really not what this forum is for.
I hope you will save us all some time and effort by finding a better venue for your purpose, but I think you will find this is not the place.


Hi Merkaba360, thank you for your questions. I value them a lot.

So this is why we shall learn Lifechanyuan values and perfect our soul garden. And besides, our community can't have 1000 people in every branch. The maximum number of each branch will less than 300 people. This is Xuefeng's demand. He tells us it is copied from the thousand-year world. and every member will live in every branch only for three years. so this may reduce the problem you mean.

How to solve the problem you mention?

1. First: learn 800 values for New Era Human Being and Xuefeng's Articles
https://chanyuan.org/guide/fe811c90a1c411e88dc810f005716da3

2. Second: Live in the New Oasis for Life Communities
https://chanyuan.org/guide/dc09cb64c0f111eab31b560002b98003/4e51732022fb11e9aee5befb453e417e

Only living in it, you can meet the people who share the same values and have some nice hobbies. You will work with them, play with them and sublimate with them together. You just need to do one job that you like, and we will have monthly party to let you learn how to sing and dance, we also have games for you to happily play. The most important thing is that you can find true love without any conditions. Sex and Love is free in our community, but when you want to control somebody, you will feel guity in your heart and if you hurt somebody's heart or body, you will be out from the community.We also have life meetings to solve daily problems.

BTW...We will and hope to build 256 branches of our communities around the world. So you may know, if you are one of our members, you will have many chance to visit different places' views and meet so many nice people. So, your love and frequency will surely get improved, right?

Hope my answer can help you to undersrtand more about our community. Thank you so much.

Sorry, dear onawah, I can't understand what you mean.
Can you express your opinion more clearly?

It seems that you mean I bother you here? Or I bother project Avalon members? If it is, oh, I'm so sorry. I just want to politely reply all of your questions. I don't want to push my thinking or my community's values on any body. just because you reply my post and share your thinking, I share my thinking, too.

Only share not push. Hope you can understand me. Thanks.:o

And if Bill also thinks I am pushing my ideas to all of you, okay, I will stop to reply on this post. ;):inlove:

Come on, is it because I am a Chinese who has strong will to challenging all your faith or diffferent culture values? So you feel pushed? Oh my, I also feel pushed by all of you before. Especailly when my English is weak...lol

Okay, hope we are just chatting for fun not for battle.

Let me share a nice song with you.

Don't worry, be happy

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And this video shows: we are the same from child.

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Hope you can get me.

Have a nice day and be happy.

Jena Xidai

[thepainterdoug]

I cannot even read this original post. This is the softening they are hoping for. Communism doesnt work because its not the "ism"
its the human being that is the problem.

show me an example of this system that works ? envy and greed is in the human, desiring, wanting, cheating and gaming the system.

you will never get anyone to even things out, even among good people. and forget leaders. they are power mongers and will want to control all for their benefit

there is a saying, take all the money everywhere and distribute it equally among everyone, and in no time it will be back in the same hands it was in.

the ideal of "commune" ism is fine among 100 people on an island. beyond that, nope.

[Matthew]

We don't have methodical communities as much, but we do have less dependant communities. They're scattered across people we've worked with, studied with at different levels, people from the street we have lived on (or currently live on), friends of friends... Personal activities, hobbies, ...well, it unites us because they are things we share love for. They're things like music bands, board games, ball bearing gun shooting (not for me). Some are very private groups, others less well known public groups. Some have no activity, but an outlook or trend in common.

I still feel a sense of community with a party crowd I haven't seen properly since 2014. Ah yes, we are one of those, here on this forum, I just realised that. We have a few common phrases that express this phenomenon, phrases that have entered popular culture like "chosen family". I think of some of my social circles as this and others as a tribe. This sense of community is typically pure anarchy that manages to live amongst, what is otherwise, a very systematic lifestyle. Sometimes we talk about UK 'communes' but it doesn't appeal to me; I can be fussy about who I want to work and live with, if I have a choice.

I'm thinking a (UK) commune would be like marriage and work combined into one consuming lifestyle where I am dependant on people that are asleep or people that don't really care. At least I can change job. But I am envious of the closer sense of family by (and this is an idiom:) 'living in and out of each others pockets', but I share a smaller sense of this with the groups I'm involved with. Thinking about it there are lots of people I would risk my life for. Thinking more, one friend gave another friend a kidney.

It's not a cohesive community, or run by a method, and it might be distributed, ...scattered... we still manage to find something like it. I'm sure there's a place for the methodical, alternative approach you have found, and I can see you love it and advocate it, which speaks for itself ;) Oh yes... 'Communism' has been weaponised in our language. It generally serves us OK in my humble opinion, because big-state communism is an actual threat to the anarchy we like to have, in and around the system. Hope that translates well :heart:

[thepainterdoug]

There is a solution. Move to a communist country and try it out. l have a friend suffering in Venezuela who will be happy to do an exchange with you.

then report back

[xidaijena]

There is a solution. Move to a communist country and try it out. l have a friend suffering in Venezuela who will be happy to do an exchange with you.

then report back

If he is interested in Lifechanyuan, I will be happy to communicate with him...lol:handshake:

[Merkaba360]

THanks for you responses Xidaijena,

One thing to know is that I don't think you challenge our values as westerners. The people on this forum are quite conscious rebels who have spent decades challenging our own systems, cultures, values, etc. As well as much of the rest of the world too. So, in general, we could care less about where ideas come from, we are critical thinkers of what works.

We have been trying to think up EVERY possible way to solve the problems we are discussing on this thread and the forum. Its great to have "communes" creating different ways of living that are more harmonious and peaceful. Maybe many can be built around the world and have some positive influence.

As Doug and I said, we understand what he this Xuefang is doing because we have similar communities like this as well for many decades. But, the model doesn't fit most people. If they could go live there and have lots of abundance and work little, then maybe this could change more people to want to join.

Just look at the guidelines you shared:

1. There is no marriage and no family. Also there is no currency within the community.
- This one is a huge NO for 70% of the population maybe. Although it could very well be changing.

2. Love is free, but there is no sexual promiscuity or venereal disease.
- Yea humans cant really control sex and disease. Pretty sure this is a fantasy for young people at least. Love is free? Isnt it always free? If its romantic love is free, then I'd love to see someone convince all the women of that. lol

3. Nobody has personal belongings. Everything belongs to the community and everyone is selfless.
- 80% of Egoic self-centered people would have to be screened and banned from joining the commune.

4. Illness is reduced to the minimum and the average expenditure on medical care is less than ￥200RMB per person, per year.
- THen they must have hospitals in the commune. Those machines are expensive.

5. Every member relocates to a new facility every three years to avoid aesthetic fatigue, forming cliques, or being trapped into relationships.
- Very few people in the world will except leaving the people they love.

6. There are no rules and no discipline with punishment. We comply only with the natural and civilization Tao.
- You will need Lao Tzu to decide who joins, there sure are a lot of humans who need discipline. lol

7. We are self-sufficient. We are not supported from the outside world nor do we need to be. We do not take capitalists’ wealth.
- So, you build your own CPU's and computers? Or you don't use technology?


That's some of the problems. Again, its a niche market. MOST Humans will NOT go for this and will thus support the machine which will soon become their enemy.

Please understand, that we get the idea. These communities, because they are small and full of the people who like that kind of life, can be a better place than living in the city.

[thepainterdoug]

if people were honest, respectful, fair, caring, generous and concerned for others, if they treated others as they themselves wanted to be treated then any number of systems of collective living could work.
Even people of god and atheists would do unto others the same

its the nature of people that is the problem , therefore I still feel the free market capiltalist democratic system is still the best of all BAD systems . it demands you show up, bring something to the table, be accountable, in a system of meritocracy. it allows you to sit back and do nothing and get nothing, or get involved and attain more .

[Savannah]

This discussion on political systems can also be seen from a spiritual perspective. We come from one source of conscious energy some call God. We choose to experience individual separation from that one. Thus, it seems to me it would be natural for us to gravitate to systems that either present individualism (capitalism) or Communism (collectivism). Unfortunately, both those systems have been manipulated and inverted by negative polarity individuals. This leaves us confused because we came to this dimension to experience extreme separation and individuation, thus communism seems completely antithetical to that aim. On the other hand, the goal of individuation is to gain experience and photonic energy and merge back to source. Thus, communism has an appeal to us. However that system of governance stifles our development and suffocates individual expression. It’s important IMO not to glorify communism since many here have experienced the inversion of Capitalism and to remember that communisms inversion has resulted in horrific atrocities and lack of soul growth for many. Those voices don’t even get to participate in forms like this to testify to truth of that assertion. Anarchy is not chaos but self-governance and learning to live collectively while governing oneself individually. A compromise in IMO.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHPQHFVxN9E
Th full video
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-dark-origins-of-communism-ep-2-the-reign-of-terror_3957934.html?&utm_medium=Crossroads&utm_source=YouTube&utm_campaign=DarkOriginsOfCommunism

The Reign of Terror | The Dark Origins Of Communism Series | Official Trailer | Crossroads

[xidaijena]

first, thank you for all your replies, I love you...lol

I laugh with tears when reading Merkaba360's reply. I am also sharing your reply with Guide Xuefeng. If he doesn't give me any answer, I will use my way to reply you.

But not now, because, today I will take a surgery of my breast.

I will reply all your posts when I am fine.

Thank you for all your kind attention.

Jena Xidai

[xidaijena]

THanks for you responses Xidaijena,

One thing to know is that I don't think you challenge our values as westerners. The people on this forum are quite conscious rebels who have spent decades challenging our own systems, cultures, values, etc. As well as much of the rest of the world too. So, in general, we could care less about where ideas come from, we are critical thinkers of what works.

We have been trying to think up EVERY possible way to solve the problems we are discussing on this thread and the forum. Its great to have "communes" creating different ways of living that are more harmonious and peaceful. Maybe many can be built around the world and have some positive influence.

As Doug and I said, we understand what he this Xuefang is doing because we have similar communities like this as well for many decades. But, the model doesn't fit most people. If they could go live there and have lots of abundance and work little, then maybe this could change more people to want to join.

Just look at the guidelines you shared:

1. There is no marriage and no family. Also there is no currency within the community.
- This one is a huge NO for 70% of the population maybe. Although it could very well be changing.

2. Love is free, but there is no sexual promiscuity or venereal disease.
- Yea humans cant really control sex and disease. Pretty sure this is a fantasy for young people at least. Love is free? Isnt it always free? If its romantic love is free, then I'd love to see someone convince all the women of that. lol

3. Nobody has personal belongings. Everything belongs to the community and everyone is selfless.
- 80% of Egoic self-centered people would have to be screened and banned from joining the commune.

4. Illness is reduced to the minimum and the average expenditure on medical care is less than ￥200RMB per person, per year.
- THen they must have hospitals in the commune. Those machines are expensive.

5. Every member relocates to a new facility every three years to avoid aesthetic fatigue, forming cliques, or being trapped into relationships.
- Very few people in the world will except leaving the people they love.

6. There are no rules and no discipline with punishment. We comply only with the natural and civilization Tao.
- You will need Lao Tzu to decide who joins, there sure are a lot of humans who need discipline. lol

7. We are self-sufficient. We are not supported from the outside world nor do we need to be. We do not take capitalists’ wealth.
- So, you build your own CPU's and computers? Or you don't use technology?


That's some of the problems. Again, its a niche market. MOST Humans will NOT go for this and will thus support the machine which will soon become their enemy.

Please understand, that we get the idea. These communities, because they are small and full of the people who like that kind of life, can be a better place than living in the city.


Thank you for your detailed and not sharp reply, dear Merkaba360.

"One thing to know is that I don't think you challenge our values as westerners. The people on this forum are quite conscious rebels who have spent decades challenging our own systems, cultures, values, etc. As well as much of the rest of the world too. So, in general, we could care less about where ideas come from, we are critical thinkers of what works."

you words make me simle a lot. Indeed, your thinkings are quite different from the Chinese people I know.


"1. There is no marriage and no family. Also there is no currency within the community.
- This one is a huge NO for 70% of the population maybe. Although it could very well be changing."

LOL, indeed, but I don't know why there are many guys contacting me because they don't like marriage and family duty. No currency is my wish and present dream. I hate money now.


"2. Love is free, but there is no sexual promiscuity or venereal disease.
- Yea humans cant really control sex and disease. Pretty sure this is a fantasy for young people at least. Love is free? Isnt it always free? If its romantic love is free, then I'd love to see someone convince all the women of that. lol"

yes, love is free, because there is no currency in the community. no body has the power to control anybody. Women have high state in our community. Lady is always first. When we enjoy love and romantic sex, we also need to protect ourselves.


"3. Nobody has personal belongings. Everything belongs to the community and everyone is selfless.
- 80% of Egoic self-centered people would have to be screened and banned from joining the commune."

So there are still 20% people wanting to join...lol


"4. Illness is reduced to the minimum and the average expenditure on medical care is less than ￥200RMB per person, per year.
- THen they must have hospitals in the commune. Those machines are expensive."

No hospital, but we just try our best to perfect our soul and then ill less.


"5. Every member relocates to a new facility every three years to avoid aesthetic fatigue, forming cliques, or being trapped into relationships.
- Very few people in the world will except leaving the people they love."

No, when you meet more and more lovers, you will surely leave and happily go to other branches. Love and Sex are nice attraction.


"6. There are no rules and no discipline with punishment. We comply only with the natural and civilization Tao.
- You will need Lao Tzu to decide who joins, there sure are a lot of humans who need discipline. lol"

we have 800 values and Xuefeng's articles, we know what shall do or not.


"7. We are self-sufficient. We are not supported from the outside world nor do we need to be. We do not take capitalists’ wealth.
- So, you build your own CPU's and computers? Or you don't use technology?"

we only accept chanyuan members supports.


"These communities, because they are small and full of the people who like that kind of life, can be a better place than living in the city."

A big YES!

[xidaijena]

if people were honest, respectful, fair, caring, generous and concerned for others, if they treated others as they themselves wanted to be treated then any number of systems of collective living could work.
Even people of god and atheists would do unto others the same

The problem is people can't be always honest. and so that people needs the good life program to control or cultivate.

[xidaijena]

This discussion on political systems can also be seen from a spiritual perspective. We come from one source of conscious energy some call God. We choose to experience individual separation from that one. Thus, it seems to me it would be natural for us to gravitate to systems that either present individualism (capitalism) or Communism (collectivism). Unfortunately, both those systems have been manipulated and inverted by negative polarity individuals. This leaves us confused because we came to this dimension to experience extreme separation and individuation, thus communism seems completely antithetical to that aim. On the other hand, the goal of individuation is to gain experience and photonic energy and merge back to source. Thus, communism has an appeal to us. However that system of governance stifles our development and suffocates individual expression. It’s important IMO not to glorify communism since many here have experienced the inversion of Capitalism and to remember that communisms inversion has resulted in horrific atrocities and lack of soul growth for many. Those voices don’t even get to participate in forms like this to testify to truth of that assertion. Anarchy is not chaos but self-governance and learning to live collectively while governing oneself individually. A compromise in IMO.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHPQHFVxN9E
Th full video
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-dark-origins-of-communism-ep-2-the-reign-of-terror_3957934.html?&utm_medium=Crossroads&utm_source=YouTube&utm_campaign=DarkOriginsOfCommunism

The Reign of Terror | The Dark Origins Of Communism Series | Official Trailer | Crossroads

wow, the video you shared scares me a little. i don't like that kind of communism.:silent:

but i do agree with you that" Anarchy is not chaos but self-governance and learning to live collectively while governing oneself individually. ":handshake:

[ExomatrixTV]

American Marxism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115763-American-Marxism/page3)

[ExomatrixTV]

psrbnn04bc
source (https://gettr.com/post/psrbnn04bc)

[Kindred]

ANY 'system' that deprives the Individual of FREE WILL goes against Universal Law... and that also implies that Coercion, or control via Omission by ANY means, is also contrary to Universal Law.

No matter how you label a particular system of control, it is Still 'control'. HOW control is 'maintained' is the key factor.

Is the control via the fully informed FREE WILL of ALL the participants, or via the dictates of a Few?

I offer this book as a means by which one may learn about various 'systems', and understand what is meant by 'Universal Law'... (see pages 108 / 109 for this aspect)

Only 184 pages, but FULL of KNOWLEDGE you won't find Anywhere else.
(Caution - it may be that people in China will NOT be able to read it.. it may be Forbidden, Just as Falungong has been outlawed)

http://projectavalon.net/Thiaoouba_Prophecy.pdf

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Kindred]

Each of us is an Infinite Spirit having a brief Experience in what we call 'physical reality'.

FREE WILL is a Core Aspect of our Spirit and with which we are endowed by our Creator.

I'm not suggesting that capitalism is any better than communism... the primary problem of money is that it creates 'haves' and 'have nots'...

In point of fact, Thiaoouba makes the central point that monetary systems are the Root Cause for virtually ALL of humanity's past and current problems.

That said, ALL political systems currently employ this issue of money, and the basic problem of have vs have-not can, and is, exacerbated by dictatorial control systems. We currently see this played out in the US political system where politicians use their positions to illegally reap financial gains that are forbidden to the average person. And the same goes for all political systems for we see this same problem occurring in communistic and socialistic countries.

After watching the video on the 'dark origins of communism', I found a longer version that more accurately describes communism as it is practiced on this planet...

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In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[XelNaga]

Hi Friends,

What I find most interesting when I see a discussion about communism is that the people who are most vocal against it have no personal experience with it, by that I mean they don't now and haven't ever lived in a communist country.

It's ridiculous really, most of the perceptions of it they have are from other people (politicians and news channels) who also don't have any personal experience with it, and who tend to lie and twist facts as they see fit.

Are there bad sides to it, yes absolutely. Are there good sides to it, again yes absolutely. Just like in any other system made by people. People dislike communism because of some bad actions of certain individuals. Well, look at the western world now? It's complete ****, and there is no communism there, it's all thanks to the glorious capitalism and democracy. Democracy today, btw, is a complete scam and has absolutely nothing to do with original Greek democracy (peoples rule).

Country where my parents and grandparents lived was a communist country, Yugoslavia. It was one of the best countries to live in at that time. Almost all members of older generations have only good things to say about that country and those times. There was almost no corruption, at least compared to today. Everybode had jobes, and even people without a job could live, the country supported them. Half of the roads were built for free, willingly, by people. You could lay down to sleep in the darkest street or park in the city, and it wouldn't even cross your mind that you could get robbed or killed etc.

The only people who had anything bad to say about communist Yugoslavia were lazy people, thiefs and scammers.

Kind regards..

[Kindred]

As per my previous posts (above) it doesn't matter whether the political system is capitalistic, socialistic, or communistic. The main problem on our world today is that ALL these systems use 'money' which, in and of itself, creates 'haves' and 'have-nots'. This creates division and leads to a few feeling 'superior' to their fellow countrymen.

Add to this corruptive brew, a populace almost completely detached from any true understanding of their individual and collective Spiritual Divinity endowed by the Creator. This is why we see so much division, strife, and hatred between individuals and countries.

Here's an excerpt from Thiaoouba Prophecy with some explanation both before and after...

Thao, Michel DesMarquet’s mentor during his visit to Thiaoouba, was explaining how the ‘political system’ in Lemuria operated, and described a system that was devoid of any ‘politics’ or ‘parties’, the people recognizing that as soon as you have a system with opposing ‘viewpoints’, you automatically create a system that fights against itself, to the detriment of the people and leads to corruption, particularly when a monetary system is involved.

Their system was exactly along the lines depicted in ‘The Green Beautiful’ (a French movie from the 90's), where each small community, by a show of hands, ‘elected’ their local representative – this representative had to be over the age of 60, and was well respected by the majority in the community for their even-mindedness, temperament and commitment to the community. This system was then extended between communities (like a ‘county’ system), gradually moving up to a ‘state’, and then the nation as a whole. Thus, only those people who had the temperament, experience and trust of the people, and truly had the best interest of the country, would rise to leadership positions. Since there were no monetary incentives involved, then the system worked exceedingly well.

From the book:
(Thao); “The only solution [to counter a political system as on Earth] is to follow the example of the government of Mu. This it place as the head of state a leader whose unique goal is the well being of the people – a leader not motivated by false pride or parties – and the resentment, the grudges, the hatred that go with them, and to hold out your hand to your neighbor – to accept him and work with him, regardless of differences you may have. He is after all, in the same boat with you, Michel. He is a part of the same village, the same town, the same nation, the same planet.”
Thao continued: “What is the house which shelters you made of, Michel?”
(Michel) “Of bricks, of wood, tiles, plaster, nails…”
(Thao) “Indeed, and what are those materials made of?”
(Michel) “Atoms, of course.”
(Thao) “Perfect. Now these atoms, as you know, have to connect very closely in order to form a brick or any other building material. What would happen if these atoms repelled each other instead of combining as they do?”
(Michel) “Disintegration.”
(Thao) “And there we are. When you push away your neighbors, your son, or your daughter – if you aren’t always ready to help even those whom you don’t like, you contribute to the disintegration of your civilization. And this is what is happening on Earth more and more, through hate and violence.”

Thao then goes on to describe the dangers of the depiction of violence in all forms of media and how the use of violence to foment political change and control is self-defeating, giving examples such as Napoleon and Hitler, ultimately describing how the media is promoting Great harm to the people by using increasingly violent images in the news and ‘entertainment’, and describing the psychological effects on individuals and the nation as a whole.

Humanity's biggest problem, after money, is breaking the cycle of violence, which begins in the mind. Violence begets violence. Here's an excerpt from 'Seth Speaks';

“It is wrong to curse a flower and wrong to curse a man. It is wrong not to hold any man in honor, and it is wrong to ridicule any man. You must honor yourselves and see within yourselves the spirit of eternal vitality. If you do not do this, then you destroy what you touch. And you must honor each other individual also, because in him is the spark of eternal vitality.”

“When you curse another, you curse yourselves, and the curse returns to you. When you are violent, the violence returns… I speak to you because yours is the opportunity [to better world conditions] and yours is the time. Do not fall into the old ways that will lead you precisely into the world that you fear.”

“When every young man refuses to go to war, you will have peace. As long as you fight for gain and greed, there will be no peace. As long as one person commits acts of violence for the sake of peace, you will have war. Unfortunately, it is difficult to imagine that all the young men in all of the countries will refuse to go to war at the same time. And so you must work out the violence that violence has wrought. Within the next hundred years that time may come. Remember, you do not defend any idea with violence.”

“There is no man who hates but that that hatred is reflected outward and made physical.
And there is no man who loves but that that love is reflected outward and made physical.”

In Unity Peace and LOVE

[xidaijena]

psrbnn04bc
source (https://gettr.com/post/psrbnn04bc)

I don't know this, but it seems interesting.

[xidaijena]

ANY 'system' that deprives the Individual of FREE WILL goes against Universal Law... and that also implies that Coercion, or control via Omission by ANY means, is also contrary to Universal Law.

No matter how you label a particular system of control, it is Still 'control'. HOW control is 'maintained' is the key factor.

Is the control via the fully informed FREE WILL of ALL the participants, or via the dictates of a Few?

I offer this book as a means by which one may learn about various 'systems', and understand what is meant by 'Universal Law'... (see pages 108 / 109 for this aspect)

Only 184 pages, but FULL of KNOWLEDGE you won't find Anywhere else.
(Caution - it may be that people in China will NOT be able to read it.. it may be Forbidden, Just as Falungong has been outlawed)

http://projectavalon.net/Thiaoouba_Prophecy.pdf

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

Sorry to reply you late, dear Kindred. I saw your reply just now. For your question, maybe you can get something from the article as below:

“生命禅院个性与共性的统一性
The Unity Between Individuality and Generality in Lifechanyuan

Xuefeng


我以千年界仙人社会的生活状态来谈生命禅院第二家园个性与共性的统一性。
I will take the example of celestial being's life in Thousand-Year World to talk about the unity between individuality and generality of the Second Home (now New Oasis for Life) in Lifechanyuan.

没有个性，一片苍白，如果百花园里只盛开一种花卉，单调乏味，若万紫千红，百花齐放，才姹紫嫣红，一片锦绣。每一位禅院草，都应该有个性，有自己独特于其他禅院草的特性，对此，我们应该维护，应该支持，应该容纳， 决不能期望大家都像自己一样，决不能用自己的习惯和价值观要求或挑剔他人，决不能用自己认为正确的标准去束缚他人或对他人指手画脚。

Without individuality, life would be pallid. If a garden is overgrown with only one kind of flowers, it will be boring and monotonous; if it is a riot of colors with countless flowers in full bloom, the garden will then be lively and splendid. Every Chanyuan celestial should have individuality, must have characteristics distinct from other Chanyuan celestials. And we should protect, support, accommodate such individualities. We should not expect others to be exactly like ourselves. We should not set down requirements for others or find fault with others on the basis of our own habits and values, we should not bind others up or make indiscreet criticisms of others with standards that we ourselves think are correct.

没有共性，一盘散沙，无序混乱，就会相互冲突，相互摩擦，能量会内耗。不仅难以获得开心快乐，自由幸福的生活，更无法展示出自己的个性，苦恼会增多，麻烦会接连不断地产生，久而久之，会演变成世俗社会，演变成动物 世界，演变成地狱。
Without generality, everything will be in a state of disunity like a sheet of loose sand, and chaos and confusion will reign supreme. It will be easy for us to get into conflict, and friction, and energy will be exhausted by internal strife. Thus it will be difficult for us to achieve joy, happiness, freedom and blessing, and accordingly it will be even more difficult for us to demonstrate our individuality. As a result, we will have more afflictions, and run into one after another trouble. With the passage of time we may slide into the secular world, the animal world and until into hell.

共性中要体现个性，个性中要展现共性，只有共性和个性完美统一，才能获得既有统一意志，又有个人心情舒畅，生动活泼，生机勃勃的生活局面。

Generality should embody individuality, and individuality should embrace generality. Only with the perfect unity between generality and individuality, can we guarantee a vigorous and dynamic life in which there is both uniform will and pleasant feelings of individuals.

共性要包含个性，不允许个性存在的共性是不人道的，是残忍的，是专制独裁的，生命禅院自始至终要防范这一点。当个性与共性发生矛盾冲突时，个性要让位于共性，不遵从共性的个性是独断专行不道德的，是一种极端，有损 于集体，是心灵被扭曲的一种标志，是一种病态，是生命的反物质结构残缺的标志。

Generality should accomodate individuality. Generality that does not allow the existence of individuality is inhuman, cruel, despotic and dictatorial. Lifechanyuan should consistently be on guard against this trend. When individuality gets into conflict with generality, individuality should give way to generality. The individuality that does not conform to generality is a law onto itself, is immoral and radical, and will do harm to the collective. Such individuality is a morbidity that reflects a distorted soul and indicates the deformity of nonmaterial structure.
千年界仙人们之所以活得比人间的人开心快乐，自由幸福，关键在于其共性和个性的高度完美统一。共性和个性越少冲突和矛盾，其生活的质量就越高，每个人活得越有滋有味，自由度反而越高。共性与个性之间矛盾冲突越多， 生活的质量越低，生命的品质越差，每个人的苦恼和麻烦也越多。


The reason that people in the Thousand-Year World live a more joyful and pleasant, and freer and more blessed life than people in the human world is because of the perfect unity between individuality and generality. The fewer conflicts and contradictions there are between generality and individuality, the better the quality of life will be, the more interesting a life everyone will have, and the greater the freedom will be. The more conflicts and contradictions there are between generality and individuality, the lower the quality of life will be, the poorer the character of LIFE will be, and the more afflictions and troubles everyone will have.

人类社会的共性主要靠宪法、法律法规、军队、警察等维护，没有这些强制措施，人类社会就会一片混乱，一团糟，就会弱肉强食，大鱼吃小鱼，小鱼吃虾米，就会按照动物世界的丛林法则来演绎。


The generality of human society is maintained mainly through constitutions, laws and statutes, army, and police. Without these compulsory measures, human society will be plunged into confusion and chaos and will be governed by law of the jungle existing in the animal world, by which the strong prey upon the weak.
生命禅院的共性主要靠禅院理念来维护，不需要宪法和法律法规，不需要军队和警察，完全靠禅院理念下心灵的同频共振来实现，完全靠每个人的自觉自愿来实现，不能用强制手段，不能设立强制措施。

The generality of Lifechanyuan is maintained mainly through Lifechanyuan values. No constitution, laws and statutes, or army and police are needed. The generality is realized completely by the same-frequency resonance of soul under Lifechanyuan values, and completely by everyone's free will and volition. No compulsory and mandatory measures shall be employed.

每一位修行修炼想去更加美好空间生活的人，必须明白共性与个性的完美统一性，既要保持个性，又要遵守共性，任何过分强调个性的人，永远到达不了生命的高层空间，越彰显个性的地方，越远离天堂，越靠近地狱，同样，越 强调共性，扼杀个性的地方，也越远离天堂，越靠近地狱。

Everyone who conducts self-refinement and self-cultivation in order to live in the better spaces of LIFE must have a good understanding of the perfect unity between generality and individuality, and must maintain individuality and at the same time conform to generality. Anyone who places excessive emphasis on individuality can never reach the higher spaces of LIFE. The more individuality a place emphasizes, the farther it is from the paradise and the closer it is to hell; in the same way, the more generality a place emphasizes and the more individuality it strangles, the farther it is from the paradise and the closer it is to hell.
每一个人必须明确这么一点，人类社会是强调个性的地方，你来自于人类社会，所以，你天生地想彰显个性，想维护个性，而无视共性，当你的个性得不到彰显的时候，你会苦恼，你会愤怒，你会产生仇恨报复心理，你会虐待他 人，同时也会虐待自己，甚至会自杀。所以，作为人类社会的一员，我们天生地心理残缺，我们生命的反物质结构天生不完美。


Everyone should understand that human society is a place that emphasizes individuality. You come from human society, so it is only natural that you want to fully exhibit and maintain your individuality. However, if you don't pay attention to generality and cannot fully display your individuality, you will be distressed, you will be furious, and you will be revengeful. You will mistreat others as well as yourself, and you will even kill yourself. Thus, as a member of human society, we are innately psychologically deformed, and innately handicapped in the nonmaterial structure of our LIFE.

哪怎么办？
集体生活是最佳的修道场，必须要融入集体生活中修炼自己，把不适合共性的个性像修剪树枝那样修剪掉。当一个人独处的时候，当一个人单身的时候，当一个人生活在世俗家庭中的时候，你或许会自我感觉非常良好，你觉得你 很完美，你处处正确，但当你融入集体的时候，你的缺陷和不足就会暴露出来，你会格格不入，你难以与大家友好和谐地相处，你会给大家带来苦恼，你会认为大家不爱你，不关心你，不照顾你，发生这种情况时，问题不在于集 体，而在于你自身。


Then what should we do?

Collective life is the best venue to cultivate the way. We must cultivate and refine ourselves by blending ourselves into the collective life, and get rid of the individuality that does not conform to generality in the same way as we prune the superfluous branches from a tree. When you live alone, when you are single, when you live in the secular family, you may feel wonderful, you may feel you are perfect and flawless; however, once you live in the collective, you will have your defections and deficiencies exposed, you will feel completely incompatible with the collective life, you will find it difficult to get along with people harmoniously, you will cause distress to others, and you will feel that others do not love you and do not care for you. When such things happen, you should find problems in yourself instead of in the collective.

比如，当大家都欢乐的时候，你要休息睡觉，然后埋怨大家制造了噪音，吵了你，这就是你的不对，你的个性没有融入共性之中。但是，当大家休息睡觉的时候，你又想欢乐，又吵又闹，这同样是你的不对。

For example, when everyone is having a good time but you choose to go to sleep and then complain that others have made noises and interrupted you, that's where you have gone wrong, because your individuality is not incorporated into the generality. On the other hand, you are equally wrong when everyone else is having a rest but you choose to have some fun and make a lot of noise.
或许有人会问：我不愿融入集体，也不给大家带来苦恼麻烦，我只修好自己，我只去自己向往的地方，难道不行吗？

Maybe someone would ask, I do not want to be a part of the collective, and I do not cause distress and troubles to other people, I only concentrate myself on my own cultivation, and I only go to the place that I yearn for, isn't that permissible?

行！生命的道路千万条，生命存在的空间无限广阔，你有什么样的意识，就能去什么样的生命存在空间，但是，你去不了天堂，天国里没有天马行空独来独往的地方，即使仙岛群岛洲，你可以随心所欲，但依然要遵循仙岛群岛洲 的共性，要与集体往来，你要与任何一位仙和平共处，你无法像人间一样只选择与几个好友往来而无视其他人。


Yes, it's permissible. The space for LIFE is infinitely expansive, and whatever consciousness you may and you will go to the corresponding space for LIFE. But you cannot go to the paradise, because in the paradise there is no place for a lonely ranger. Even if you can do whatever you want in Celestial Island Continent, you must still follow the generality of Celestial Island Continent, you must associate with the collective, you must live peacefully with any celestial being, you should not behave as in the human world, getting along well with only a few good friends you have choosen but ignore others.
你即使是一颗恒星，也必须在一个星系中存在，必须遵守星系的共性，否则，只能走向灭亡。


Even if you are a star, you must exist in a galaxy, and you must observe the generality of the galaxy, otherwise you will be doomed.
越是强调个性的人，苦恼和麻烦越多，对社会和集体的破坏力越大，自身越寂寞孤独，心灵越容易扭曲，心态越不健康。



The more one stresses individuality, the more distress and trouble they will have, the greater destruction they will bring to society and collective, the more lonely and solitary they will feel, the more easily their soul will be distorted, and the more abnormal mentality they will have.

个性与共性矛盾冲突越少的人，越开心快乐，心情越宁静，越容易修成仙道佛道；个性与共性矛盾冲突越大的人，轻者，会修成魑魅魍魉，重者，会修成妖魔鬼怪。


The less conflicts and contradiction a person suffers in individuality and generality, the more pleasant and happier they will be, the more serene a mind they will have, and the more likely they will achieve the spiritual state of a celestial being and Buddha. A person who suffers greater conflicts and contradiction between generality and individuality will become devils, monsters and demons.

宇宙的共性是道，道的核心是上帝，敬畏上帝，走上帝之道，就是将自己的个性与宇宙的共性完美和谐地统一了起来。只有将个性与宇宙共性完美和谐统一起来的人，才是头脑清醒的人，才有光明的前程，背弃了这个大原则，大 方向，无论怎么修，都不会有美好前程。

The generality of the universe is Tao, the core of Tao is the Greatest Creator. Worshipping the Greatest Creator and following his way means the perfect and harmonious unity between your own individuality and the universe's generality. Only people who have harmoniously and perfectly united their individualities and the universe's generality are clear-headed people and can have a bright prospect. If you have deviated this general principle and direction, you will not have a beautiful prospect no matter how much effort you have made for your own cultivation.
人类社会的共性是名利，凡一切为名为利的，不论采取什么方式，都是与人类社会的共性相一致的，违背了人类社会的这个共性，人生的路就会艰难，会处处受挫，会苦恼无穷。所以，作为人，应该求名求利，这样，就是将自己 的个性与人类社会的共性结合了起来，你人生的路会相对通畅，自由度会大。

The generality of human society is fame and gain. Every pursuit of fame and gain, by whatever means, is compatible with the generality of human society. And any departure from this generality of human society will cause great difficulty, setbacks, and endless distresses and troubles for one's life. Therefore, as a man, one should pursue fame and gain, and in this way one can combine his own individuality with the generality of human society and thus will have a relatively smooth and free life.

动物社会的共性是弱肉强食满足欲望，如果一个人活着仅仅是为了满足自己的欲望，且用弱肉强食的丛林法则方式，那么，你是将自己的个性与动物世界的共性有机地统一了起来，你虽然外表像一个人，但你的意识是动物意识， 你的来世就可以到动物世界。

The generality of animal society is the strong preying upon the weak to satisfy desire. If a person lives only to satisfy his own desire and follows the law of the jungle, then he has organically unified his own individuality with the generality of human society. Outwardly you are a man, but inwardly you only have the consciousness of an animal, and you will go to the animal world in future life.

生命禅院的共性是仙道，凡追求开心、快乐、自由、幸福生活，向往千年界、万年界、极乐界仙岛群岛洲，并热情地参与为人类开创生命禅院时代的人，就是将自己的个性与生命禅院的共性完美和谐地统一起来的人 。


The generality of Lifechanyuan is the way of celestial being. Anyone who seeks joy, happiness, freedom, and blessing, looks forward to Thousand-Year World, Ten-Thousand-Year World, and Celestial Island Continent of the Elysium World, and enthusiastically involves himself in pioneering the era of Lifechanyuan is a person who has perfectly and harmoniously united his own individuality with the generality of Lifechanyuan.

人人有个性，处处有共性，强盗集团有强盗集团的共性，黑社会集团有黑社会集团的共性，蜜蜂蚂蚁王国有蜜蜂蚂蚁王国的共性，狼群狐狸群有它们所共同遵循的共性，物以类聚，人以群分，无论在哪个群体中，只有那些将自己 的个性与其集体的共性完美和谐统一起来的生命，才会获得最大的收获。


Everyone has his individuality. And generality exists everywhere. Gangsters have gangster's generality, criminal syndicates have their own generality, bees and ants have their own generality, and wolf packs and fox flocks have also their own generalities. Birds of a feather flock together. No matter in what community, only those that can perfectly and harmoniously unite their own individualities with the generality of their collective can reap the greatest benefit.

生命禅院的禅院草是要去往仙界的，所以，禅院草一定要将自己的个性与禅院理念的共性完美和谐地统一起来，如此，就可以在最短的时间内完成自己生命的升华，破茧而出，羽化成天仙，前往仙岛群岛洲。

Chanyuan celestials in Lifechanyuan are going to the Celestial being's world, so Chanyuan celestials should perfectly and harmoniously unite their individuality with the generality of Chanyuan values. In this way, they can accomplish the sublimation of their LIFE within a short time, and achieve the state of celestial being and move toward Celestial Island Continent.

2008-09-26”

My opinion: From the whole universe, we can tell that there are laws existing.
No way of eternal freedom.
As a human being, we are already controlled by our parents, family, our company and society, country.
Even we die, we still need to be controlled by the law of Karma.
FREE WILL is only for heavenly beings not for us.
Hope you can understand what I mean.

[xidaijena]

Each of us is an Infinite Spirit having a brief Experience in what we call 'physical reality'.

FREE WILL is a Core Aspect of our Spirit and with which we are endowed by our Creator.

I'm not suggesting that capitalism is any better than communism... the primary problem of money is that it creates 'haves' and 'have nots'...

In point of fact, Thiaoouba makes the central point that monetary systems are the Root Cause for virtually ALL of humanity's past and current problems.

That said, ALL political systems currently employ this issue of money, and the basic problem of have vs have-not can, and is, exacerbated by dictatorial control systems. We currently see this played out in the US political system where politicians use their positions to illegally reap financial gains that are forbidden to the average person. And the same goes for all political systems for we see this same problem occurring in communistic and socialistic countries.

After watching the video on the 'dark origins of communism', I found a longer version that more accurately describes communism as it is practiced on this planet...

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In Unity, Peace and LOVE





Each of us is an Infinite Spirit having a brief Experience in what we call 'physical reality'.

FREE WILL is a Core Aspect of our Spirit and with which we are endowed by our Creator.

Here is an article about FREE WIIL:

人生的轨迹与自由意志


The Trajectory and Free Will of Life



Xuefeng
( Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer)


浩瀚的天空中有远远超过地球人数的天体，即星星，每一个星体有自己运行的轨道，每一个星体的运行轨道都是被确定的，不是星体自由选择的。

There are many times more stars in the sky than people on earth. Each star floats along its own orbit around the galaxy and each orbit is determined and is not its free choice.

人生也有轨迹，生长衰亡是逃不脱的轨迹，人生18项自身无法管理的事件是人生的轨迹，如果详细研究归纳分析，人生轨迹上的每一个细节都是早已被确定的，包括名字、每一个人人生阶段的脾气性格，会说什么样的话，会做 什么样的事，会遇到什么样的人，会遭遇什么样的不幸，会得什么样的疾病，结局是什么等等，等等都是早已确定的。
LIFE also has its track: birth, growth, ageing, and death is our inescapable course. Eighteen (18) properties cannot be self-managed within LIFE’s track. If we make a detailed search and analysis, we can see that each detail on LIFE’s track is predetermined, including our name, temperament or character, words and actions, who we will encounter, what we will suffer, what diseases we will succumb to at each stage of life, when the end will come, and so on.

问题来了，既然人生的轨迹及其细节是早已被确定的，那么，人有没有自由意志？若有，自由意志体现在什么地方？


Here is the question:

Since our LIFE trajectory and its details are already predestined, do people have free will or not, and if they do have free will, how then is it manifested?

人，毫无疑问，具有自由意志，而恰恰是自由意志是造成人生犹豫烦恼痛苦恐惧忧伤的根源所在。宇宙是一，宇宙全息，宇宙是一个大剧本，人类社会发生的一切是宇宙这个大剧本中的一段情节，每一个人，是人生这个大舞台上 的一个个演员，是严格按照事先确定好的剧本情节在演出，在扮演被规定的情节角色。


There is no doubt that people have free will. It is precisely this free will that causes the hesitation, trouble, agony, fear, and sadness in life. The universe is one; the universe is holographic; the universe is a big play. Everything that happens in human society is a single episode of the big play of the universe. Everyone is an actor on this big stage of LIFE and performs in strict accordance with a predetermined plot and is playing their role in this prescribed scenario.

人生的犹豫烦恼痛苦恐惧忧伤等心理感受是由每一个人的自由意志和剧本情节的冲突矛盾导致的，要你扮演一只老鼠，而你的自由意志想扮演大象，要你扮演住茅草房，而你的自由意志要求扮演住五星级宾馆，要你去配合并服务 于某个人，而你却企图让某人配合你为你服务，要你去种菜，而你却期望去制造宇宙飞船，要你去作恶，而你却非要做善等等，等等，这是自由意志在与剧本情节安排相冲突的，每当自由意志与剧本安排相矛盾相冲突的时候，内 心的犹豫、烦恼、痛苦、焦虑、恐惧、担忧、忧伤就开始了，如果自由意志与剧本情节的安排相契合，内心就会平静、喜悦、开心、快乐、幸福，就会感到自由。


The hesitations, troubles, agonies, fears, sadness, and other psychological feelings in life result from the conflicts and contradictions between each person’s free will and their role in the play. You are asked to play a mouse, but your free will wants you to play an elephant. You are asked to live in a thatched cottage, but your free will wants you to live in a five-star hotel. You are asked to cooperate and serve a certain person, but you attempt to make them cooperate and serve you. You are asked to grow vegetables, but you hope to make a spaceship. You are asked to do good or evil, but you choose to do the opposite, and so on. This is the conflict between your role in the play and your free will. Whenever the arrangement of the play is contradicted by free will, hesitation, trouble, agony, anxiety, fear, worry, and sadness will take over. If your free will agrees with the arrangement of the plot, you will feel peace, joy, happiness, and blessings in your heart and feel free.

修行修炼的最高境界是要消除我执，做到“无我”，只有放弃我执，达到“无我”境地，能与道合一，与道合一了，就修成正果了。


The highest realm of self-refinery and self-improvement requires you to eliminate your self-persistence and to become “free from ego”. It is only in this way that you can unite with Tao.

Then, when you do that, you will attain the spiritual state of an immortal.

又一个问题又诞生了，既然一切早已注定，人的努力和奋斗有什么价值和意义？


Here is another question:

Since everything is predestined, what is the value and meaning of struggling and making efforts?

首先，所谓的努力和奋斗几乎是无稽之谈，当程序确定，要扮演的角色确定，一个人的所谓努力和奋斗是确定的，也就是说，你不想努力和奋斗是不行的，一系列的事逼着你不得不努力和奋斗，你生命的反物质结构决定的性，性 格脾性逼着你或者说鼓动你不得不努力和奋斗，我自身的状态一直就是这样，不是我想努力和奋斗，而是我的性格和周围发生的事物及其牵连促使我不得不这么做，这就叫“人在江湖，身不由己。”
First, the so-called struggling and making efforts are barely more than nonsense. When a program is determined, the role to be played is determined and one’s so-called struggles and efforts are determined. That is, you will “have to” struggle and make efforts because a series of things will force you to. It is decided by the nonmaterial structure of your LIFE. Your character and temperament will force or encourage you to struggle and make efforts. This is determined by the self-state. It is not that I want to struggle and make efforts, but my character and the things happening around me and their ramifications prompt me to do so. This is described as, “Many things are not in charge of our hands in this world”.

人，都向往美好的未来，向往去天堂生活，那么，最终谁能实现自己最美好的理想？既然一切早已注定，个人向往又有什么用？
Every person yearns for a better future and to go to heaven, so who can eventually achieve their most beautiful dreams? Also, now that everything is predestined, what is the point of personal yearning?

这就牵扯到宇宙剧本中的某些程序，宇宙剧本中有定数，也有变数，剧本情节是定数，谁去扮演剧本中的人物是变数，扮演得好的，是可以去不断扮演更符合自己自由意志的角色的，比如去天堂扮演，扮演得不好的，将会扮演更 背离自己自由意志的角色，比如去地狱扮演角色。
This involves some of the programs of the play of the universe. The play of the universe has destiny and variables. The plot of the play is destiny. Who shall play which characters in the play are variables. If you play well, you can constantly play the role more according to your free will, such as to play in heaven. If you play badly, you will play a role more deviated from your free will, such as to play a demon in hell.

那么，谁去天堂呢？凡按照既定的剧本情节无执无我地扮演好角色的人能去天堂，凡与安排的情节冲突，也就是自我意识强不情愿扮演角色的，就得去地狱了。

Who then will go to heaven? Anyone who can play the role in accordance with the established plot of the play, free from self-persistence and free from ego will go to heaven, but anyone who has conflicts with the arranged plot, that is whose self-conscious is too strong and is unwilling to play the role, will end up in hell.

从中我们会发现这样一个奥秘，去天堂还是去地狱，与你扮演的角色毫无关系，而与你是否扮演好角色息息相关。比如法西斯党魁希特勒，从人的角度看，他应当下地狱，而从宇宙剧本情节看，若他对自己扮演的角色演出的很好 ，他反而会去天堂。不管你是扮演皇帝，还是扮演一个小偷，只要你扮演的好，就奖励你去天堂，如果你扮演的不好，就罚你去地狱。
We can find such a secret from this. Going to heaven or hell has nothing to do with the role you play, but everything with how well you play it. For instance, from most people’s perspective, Adolf Hitler should definitely be in hell, but from the plot of the play of the universe, if he played his part very well, he would be in heaven. No matter what your role is, an emperor or a thief, as long as you play it well, your reward will be to go to heaven. If you do not play it well, you will be doomed to reside in hell.

那么，如何才能证明自己扮演的是好，还是不好？

这有一个很简单的验证方法，即：不论是扮演什么角色，不管是受苦受罪的角色，还是享福享乐的角色，不管是叱咤风云的角色，还是平淡无奇的角色，任何时候你能平心静气，且开心喜悦，没有犹豫、没有烦恼、没有痛苦，没 有焦虑，没有担忧，没有恐惧，而是心存感激，那么，就证明你角色扮演的好，反之，就是扮演的不好。


So, how does one know whether they are playing well or not? Here is a very simple validation method. Namely, no matter what role you play, be it one with much pain and suffering or one that enjoys happiness and pleasure, be it a role to ride the whirlwind or one to suffer the commonplace, if you can stay calm, be happy and joyful, free from hesitation, trouble, agony, anxiety, worry, and fear, but with gratitude, then you have played well. Otherwise, you will have failed the role.

掌握了佛陀教诲精粹的人明白，我执是阻碍前往极乐世界的最大障碍，我执是因为自己的自由意识太强导致的，凡事都要按照自己的想法和意愿进行，总认为自己有理由，总要坚持自己的观点，总认为自己是对的，这样的人是扮 演不好剧本安排的情节的，这样的人是悲苦的人，是得不到天道奖励的人。
Those who have mastered the essence of the teachings and instructions of Buddha understand that self-persistence is the biggest obstacle to the Elysium World. Self-persistence is the result of a strong free consciousness. If you do everything according to your own ideas and wishes, if you always believe that yours is a just cause, if you always insist on your own views, if you always know that you are right, then you cannot play the arranged plot of the play very well and you will be miserable and unable to be rewarded with the Tao of heaven.

随遇而安，随缘而化，随性而动，随机而作是扮演好角色的最佳法门。

Take things as they are. Associate with others by following your predestined relationships. Acting in accordance with your nature and taking advantage of opportunities is the best way to play the role.

November 20th , 2015


Chinese version:


如何运用自由意志
雪峰


人是有自由意志的，剧本情节和人物确定的情况下，如何演绎是由人的自由意志决定的。人是做不到与道合一的，与道不合一的地方恰恰是人用了自己的自由意志导致的。人会思考，会权衡利弊，会用心机，会趋吉避凶，这些都 是人的自由意志的体现。人有烦恼、痛苦、焦虑、忧愁、恐惧，而这些感受是意识的感受，这也证明人是有自由意志的，当自由意志与剧本情节和人物安排产生矛盾和冲突的时候，这些感受就诞生了。

我们去商场采购东西，商场里商品琳琅满目，这时我们就会挑选，而这个挑选的过程就是自由意志充分表现的时候，电视中播放过“相亲”节目，“相亲”的过程就是发挥自由意志挑选的过程。人若没有自由意志，那就纯粹变成 了生物机器人，就不会发生挑选的事件。生活在家园的禅院草应该有这种体验和感受，当你处在一对一状态中时，你对导游的不要搞一对一的要求从内心里反感，甚至觉得自己是对的，导游是错的，但你又不敢正面反抗，一方面 想听从导游的引导，一方面又放不下，因此内心里会产生迷茫和痛苦，这就是自由意志与剧本情节之间的矛盾。

佛的教诲是“无我”，一个“无我”的人是没有自由意识的，佛的状态是“无我”，若“有我”，那就不是佛。与道合一天人相应的要求是，使自己的自由意志与道的程序和天的规律法则相一致，而不是相抗衡，也就是说，让自 己心甘情愿喜悦开心地与剧本情节和人物安排相契合，演啥像啥，干啥像啥，步步相合，心灵相应。

执着是人的自由意志的极端表现，要你东，你非要西；要你玩，你非要干；要你动，你非要静；要你脱下，你非要穿上；如此一来，矛盾冲突加剧，苦难灾祸频发。大家可以从周围人群、历史人物、电视剧中的人物中观察归纳， 一定会发现，凡执着的人生活困顿，人生不顺，结局不好。所以佛陀教导我们要“消除我执”。每一个生活在家园的禅院草从个人的体验中也可以发现这个奥秘，当你坚守禅院理念并严格按照导游路线图行走的时候，你会体验到 开心、快乐、自由、幸福，而当你违背禅院理念与导游路线图不一致的时候，会感受到压抑、郁闷、不舒服，享受不到开心和自由，这都是想施展自己的自由意志造成的迷乱。

“圣人抱一为天下式”，为什么要“抱一”？因为“抱一”了就轻松简单自由快乐，若不“抱一”，不仅步步艰难，且必有祸患。整个宇宙中与上帝“抱一”，在一个国家中与政府首脑“抱一”，在一个群体中与最高权势者“抱 一”，若非要抗衡，只能是鸡蛋碰石头，弄得自己头破血流。“抱一”，就要消除我执，消除我执，就要最大限度地遏制自己与剧情相冲突的自由意志。

自由意志是上帝赋予的，凡上帝赋予的就要用，不用是不对的，但如何运用呢？

宇宙大剧本浩繁复杂，只有开了法眼佛眼才能窥见一些奥秘，从历史的长河中看，从几百年几千年的时光中看，从点滴细节中看，从道的特性和演绎法则上看，才能略知一二，人大都是肉眼凡胎鼠目寸光，根本明白不了这个大剧 本在演绎什么，在如何演绎，唯一的康庄大道是：走上帝之道，聆听并遵守神佛仙圣的教诲和引导。靠我们自己的那一点点智慧想弄清楚宇宙真相无异于缘木求鱼，靠我们自己的那点自由意志想找到捷径上天堂无异 于痴人做梦。


2015-11-24

Google Translation:



How to use free will
Xuefeng


People have free will, and when the plot and characters of the script are determined, how to interpret it is determined by people's free will. Humans cannot achieve unity with Tao, and the inconsistency with Tao is precisely caused by human beings using their own free will. People can think, weigh the pros and cons, use their scheming, and seek good luck and avoid evil. These are all manifestations of human free will. People have troubles, pains, anxiety, sorrow, and fear, and these feelings are conscious feelings, which also proves that people have free will. When there is a contradiction and conflict between free will and the plot of the script and the arrangement of characters, these feelings are born. .

When we go to the shopping mall to buy things, there are many kinds of goods in the shopping mall, and then we will choose, and this selection process is when the free will is fully expressed. The "blind date" program has been broadcast on TV. The process of "blind date" is to use free will to choose the process of. Without free will, a human being is purely a biological robot, and no events of choice can take place. The Zen garden grass living in the home should have this kind of experience and feeling. When you are in a one-on-one state, you are disgusted with the guide's request not to engage in one-on-one one-on-one, and even feel that you are right, the tour guide is It's wrong, but you don't dare to resist head-on. On the one hand, you want to follow the guidance of the tour guide, but on the other hand, you can't let it go, so you will feel confusion and pain in your heart. This is the contradiction between free will and the plot of the script.

Buddha's teaching is "no-self". A person with "no-self" has no free consciousness. The state of a Buddha is "no-self". If there is "self", then it is not a Buddha. The corresponding requirement of the Tao He Tianren is to make one's free will consistent with the Tao's procedures and the laws of the heavens, rather than contending with it, that is, to make oneself willingly and joyfully fit with the plot and character arrangements of the script. , Acting like what, doing what it is like, step by step, the heart is corresponding.

Perseverance is an extreme manifestation of human free will. If you want to be in the east, you must be in the west; if you want to play, you must do it; if you want to move, you must be still; if you want to take it off, you must put it on. Since then, conflicts have intensified, and misery and disasters have occurred frequently. Everyone can observe and summarize from the surrounding people, historical figures, and characters in TV dramas, and you will definitely find that those who are persistent have a difficult life, their life is not smooth, and the ending is not good. So the Buddha taught us to "eliminate ego-clinging". Every Zen garden grass living in the home can also discover this mystery from personal experience. When you stick to the concept of the Zen garden and walk strictly according to the tour guide, you will experience happiness, happiness, freedom, and happiness. When the philosophy of the Chanyuan is inconsistent with the tour guide's route map, one will feel depressed, depressed, uncomfortable, and unable to enjoy happiness and freedom. This is all confusion caused by wanting to exert one's own free will.

"The sage embraces one for the world", why "hold one"? Because "holding one" is easy, simple, free and happy. If you don't "hold one", it will not only be difficult, but will also lead to disaster. In the whole universe "hold one" with God, "hold one" with the head of government in a country, "hold one" with the most powerful person in a group, if you have to contend, you can only beat the egg against the stone and make your own head. Bloodshed. "Hold one", we must eliminate the ego, and to eliminate the ego, we must maximize our free will that conflicts with the plot.

Free will is bestowed by God, and whatever is bestowed by God must be used.

The great script of the universe is vast and complex, and only by opening the eyes of the Buddha can we glimpse some mysteries, from the long river of history, from the centuries and thousands of years, from the details, from the characteristics of the Tao and the laws of deduction Look, you can only know a thing or two. Most people are short-sighted with the naked eye, and they can't understand what and how this big play is interpreting. guide. Relying on our own little bit of wisdom to figure out the truth of the universe is tantamount to begging for fish, and relying on our own little bit of free will to find a shortcut to heaven is tantamount to a fool's dream.

2015-11-24

[xidaijena]

Hi Friends,

What I find most interesting when I see a discussion about communism is that the people who are most vocal against it have no personal experience with it, by that I mean they don't now and haven't ever lived in a communist country.

It's ridiculous really, most of the perceptions of it they have are from other people (politicians and news channels) who also don't have any personal experience with it, and who tend to lie and twist facts as they see fit.

Are there bad sides to it, yes absolutely. Are there good sides to it, again yes absolutely. Just like in any other system made by people. People dislike communism because of some bad actions of certain individuals. Well, look at the western world now? It's complete ****, and there is no communism there, it's all thanks to the glorious capitalism and democracy. Democracy today, btw, is a complete scam and has absolutely nothing to do with original Greek democracy (peoples rule).

Country where my parents and grandparents lived was a communist country, Yugoslavia. It was one of the best countries to live in at that time. Almost all members of older generations have only good things to say about that country and those times. There was almost no corruption, at least compared to today. Everybode had jobes, and even people without a job could live, the country supported them. Half of the roads were built for free, willingly, by people. You could lay down to sleep in the darkest street or park in the city, and it wouldn't even cross your mind that you could get robbed or killed etc.

The only people who had anything bad to say about communist Yugoslavia were lazy people, thiefs and scammers.

Kind regards..


What I find most interesting when I see a discussion about communism is that the people who are most vocal against it have no personal experience with it, by that I mean they don't now and haven't ever lived in a communist country.

Quite agree with you, dear XelNaga. Just like those negative information of CCP or Communism shared by onawah, I really want to ask her that DOES SHE KNOW ANYTHING TRUE ABOUT CHINA??? HAVE SHE EVER LIVED IN CHINA BEFORE???

why so many people like to share their opinions without any realistic experience???

Only If onawah lived in China for so many years and knows CHINESE CULTURE VERY DEEPLY, I may feel what she shared about CCP or Communism is useful. The fact is that she is without any experience in China and just shares those negative information from GOOGLE.

I just want to point out that IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO CHINA, PLEASE BE CAREFUL ABOUT YOUR SHARING!

[Waldo]

Re: Only Communism Can Save Mankind

I've done the research, and I conclude "Only Jesus Christ can Save Mankind".

One of my Favorite authors is Watchman Nee, deep deep stuff from that man.

[xidaijena]

As per my previous posts (above) it doesn't matter whether the political system is capitalistic, socialistic, or communistic. The main problem on our world today is that ALL these systems use 'money' which, in and of itself, creates 'haves' and 'have-nots'. This creates division and leads to a few feeling 'superior' to their fellow countrymen.

Add to this corruptive brew, a populace almost completely detached from any true understanding of their individual and collective Spiritual Divinity endowed by the Creator. This is why we see so much division, strife, and hatred between individuals and countries.

Here's an excerpt from Thiaoouba Prophecy with some explanation both before and after...

Thao, Michel DesMarquet’s mentor during his visit to Thiaoouba, was explaining how the ‘political system’ in Lemuria operated, and described a system that was devoid of any ‘politics’ or ‘parties’, the people recognizing that as soon as you have a system with opposing ‘viewpoints’, you automatically create a system that fights against itself, to the detriment of the people and leads to corruption, particularly when a monetary system is involved.

Their system was exactly along the lines depicted in ‘The Green Beautiful’ (a French movie from the 90's), where each small community, by a show of hands, ‘elected’ their local representative – this representative had to be over the age of 60, and was well respected by the majority in the community for their even-mindedness, temperament and commitment to the community. This system was then extended between communities (like a ‘county’ system), gradually moving up to a ‘state’, and then the nation as a whole. Thus, only those people who had the temperament, experience and trust of the people, and truly had the best interest of the country, would rise to leadership positions. Since there were no monetary incentives involved, then the system worked exceedingly well.

From the book:
(Thao); “The only solution [to counter a political system as on Earth] is to follow the example of the government of Mu. This it place as the head of state a leader whose unique goal is the well being of the people – a leader not motivated by false pride or parties – and the resentment, the grudges, the hatred that go with them, and to hold out your hand to your neighbor – to accept him and work with him, regardless of differences you may have. He is after all, in the same boat with you, Michel. He is a part of the same village, the same town, the same nation, the same planet.”
Thao continued: “What is the house which shelters you made of, Michel?”
(Michel) “Of bricks, of wood, tiles, plaster, nails…”
(Thao) “Indeed, and what are those materials made of?”
(Michel) “Atoms, of course.”
(Thao) “Perfect. Now these atoms, as you know, have to connect very closely in order to form a brick or any other building material. What would happen if these atoms repelled each other instead of combining as they do?”
(Michel) “Disintegration.”
(Thao) “And there we are. When you push away your neighbors, your son, or your daughter – if you aren’t always ready to help even those whom you don’t like, you contribute to the disintegration of your civilization. And this is what is happening on Earth more and more, through hate and violence.”

Thao then goes on to describe the dangers of the depiction of violence in all forms of media and how the use of violence to foment political change and control is self-defeating, giving examples such as Napoleon and Hitler, ultimately describing how the media is promoting Great harm to the people by using increasingly violent images in the news and ‘entertainment’, and describing the psychological effects on individuals and the nation as a whole.

Humanity's biggest problem, after money, is breaking the cycle of violence, which begins in the mind. Violence begets violence. Here's an excerpt from 'Seth Speaks';

“It is wrong to curse a flower and wrong to curse a man. It is wrong not to hold any man in honor, and it is wrong to ridicule any man. You must honor yourselves and see within yourselves the spirit of eternal vitality. If you do not do this, then you destroy what you touch. And you must honor each other individual also, because in him is the spark of eternal vitality.”

“When you curse another, you curse yourselves, and the curse returns to you. When you are violent, the violence returns… I speak to you because yours is the opportunity [to better world conditions] and yours is the time. Do not fall into the old ways that will lead you precisely into the world that you fear.”

“When every young man refuses to go to war, you will have peace. As long as you fight for gain and greed, there will be no peace. As long as one person commits acts of violence for the sake of peace, you will have war. Unfortunately, it is difficult to imagine that all the young men in all of the countries will refuse to go to war at the same time. And so you must work out the violence that violence has wrought. Within the next hundred years that time may come. Remember, you do not defend any idea with violence.”

“There is no man who hates but that that hatred is reflected outward and made physical.
And there is no man who loves but that that love is reflected outward and made physical.”

In Unity Peace and LOVE

For your question about Money, please have a read about below two articles, only in Chinese version, I use Google translation:

生命禅院的金钱观

雪峰

金钱是财富的象征，生命禅院需要财富，需要物质财富、精神财富、心灵财富。

但是，当金钱转化为货币时，它只是交换流通领域的一种符号，一种媒介物，一种契约，就跟结婚证、身份证、合同等一样，大家认可它，它就代表财富；大家不认可它，它就是一张废纸。货币代表财富，但货币本身不是财富， 当货币代表不了财富时，货币还不如卫生纸，就像2009年的津巴布韦货币那样，百元钞票还抵不上一张卫生纸。

生命禅院的金钱观是，逐步不要货币，常驻家园的禅院草不接触货币，这一点我们十年前就基本上做到了，家园里只有一位禅院草负责保管货币，采购人员使用货币，其他禅院草基本上不接触货币，于是，禅院草之间再也没有金 钱货币往来，当人与人之间没有了金钱货币的厉害关系时，相处就简单轻松容易了，就格外和谐和睦祥和了，十年来，禅院草之间一直相处亲如一家，亲如兄弟姐妹，亲如知己知音，除了生命品质升华之外，禅院的金钱观也起了 很大的作用。

目前，因为禅院外部是靠金钱推动一切生产活动的，靠货币实行物资商品交换的，所以禅院不得不拥有货币，不得不拿货币去市场上换来所需用品，但当禅院这种生产和生活模式逐步扩大时，货币将逐步走向消失，比如禅院需要 电，就得交电费，但是，当电站的工作人员成了禅院草，他提供电，其他人给他提供吃穿住行，安排生老病死，如此，电费就不用交了，用电领域再也不用拿货币交换了。再比如禅院草需要衣服，只好拿货币去换来所需衣服，但 当制衣厂的工人们都成了禅院草，他们生产衣服，其他禅院草给制衣厂的禅院草提供所需一切，如此以来，禅院草穿衣服也不需要用货币交换了，以此类推到各行各业，就可以解决全社会的需求，货币就消失了。

生命禅院的另一个金钱观是，禅院草不向别人借钱，也不借钱给别人。禅院草把自己拥有的一切全交给了家园，家园给每一位禅院草提供所需的一切，于是，谁要向禅院草借钱，对不起，禅院草自身没有一分钱可以借给他人，禅 院草的一切所需由家园提供，当然啦！他也没必要向任何人借钱。这一观念和做法，让人人免除了许许多多的烦恼和痛苦，不再欠债，不再有生活上的压力，与人相处成本很低，“不求人情到处好”嘛！

没有金钱货币了，贪官也没有了，想贪污没地方贪呀！也没机会贪呀！生活在家园的禅院草没机会接触到钱，怎么贪？即便有机会贪，贪来干什么用？怎么用？有钱你花不出去，上百双眼睛盯着你，而你所需的一切由家园提供了 ，你要钱干嘛用？你想偷偷地给自己买点好吃的好用的？门都没有，如此做了，马上将名誉扫地臭不可闻，在家园将无立足之地。还有，禅院草之间相互不送礼品，相互不能结党营私，其实，你想与某一位结下深交，没用，也没 必要，因为将来有256处家园，最多三年后分别调离到其他分院了，或许从此一辈子再也见不着了，相互结下私交有什么用，还不如跟每一个人保持良好关系的好。

生命禅院里会不会出现当官的贪污腐化搞排场奢侈浪费的情况？首先，生命禅院里就根本没有当官的，现在最大的官是总院长，其次是分院长，从世俗的角度看，哇呀！院长就是官呀！其实不是那么回事，之所以叫院长，只是附 和一下世俗的称谓，但其实质是，是“总仆长”，是“分仆长”，这个“仆”就是仆人的“仆”，总院长就是生命禅院里奉献付出最多的仆人，分院长就是生命禅院里不仅付出奉献多还对每一位禅院草关爱关心关照最多最贴心的 仆人，请大家想象，这样的“官”会去贪污腐化吗？再说，钱不在院长手里，采购东西由专人负责，院长想贪污也没机会呀！这就像家园里从不发生偷盗事件一样，你即使能偷，偷来以后你往哪里放？你怎么用？你的房间不属于 你，房间由专人负责清扫整理，你敢把偷来的东西放在自己的房间吗？大家在公共食堂一起吃饭，一起劳作，一起活动，你怎么用偷来的东西？

一个良好的程序运行，不仅需要全体成员具备高尚的品德和修养，更需要一个高效有序合理合情合法的程序，对此，作为生命禅院导游心中非常清楚，也能做到游刃有余，为什么？很简单呀！没什么需要绞尽脑汁搜索枯肠研究历 史交流考察思索的，直接拷贝天国千年界模式即可，这样，不仅每一位禅院草能过上开心、快乐、自由、幸福的美好日子，最终每一位禅院草最低限度离开人间后可以前往仙界——千年界。

2020-02-13

Lifechanyuan's Concept of Money

Xuefeng

Money is a symbol of wealth. Lifechanyuan needs wealth, material wealth, spiritual wealth and spiritual wealth.

However, when money is converted into currency, it is only a symbol, a medium, and a contract in the field of exchange and circulation, just like a marriage certificate, ID card, contract, etc. If everyone recognizes it, it represents wealth; everyone Do not recognize it, it is a piece of waste paper. Currency represents wealth, but currency itself is not wealth. When currency does not represent wealth, currency is not as good as toilet paper. Just like Zimbabwe's currency in 2009, a hundred-yuan bill is not worth a piece of toilet paper.

Lifechanyuan's concept of money is to gradually no longer use currency, and the Chanyuan grass in the home does not touch currency. We basically achieved this ten years ago. There is only one Zenyuan grass in our home who is responsible for keeping the currency, and the purchasers use the currency. Others Chanyuan grass basically does not touch currency, so there is no money and currency exchange between Chanyuan grass. When there is no strong relationship between money and currency between people, it will be simple and easy to get along with, and it will be especially harmonious and harmonious. For the past ten years, the grasses of the Chanyuan have been living together as a family, as brothers and sisters, as close friends as confidants. In addition to the sublimation of the quality of life, the Chanyuan's concept of money has also played a great role.

At present, because the outside of the Chanyuan relies on money to promote all production activities, and relies on currency to exchange materials and commodities, the Chanyuan has to have currency, and has to use the currency to exchange for the necessary supplies in the market, but when the production and life of the Chanyuan are When the model gradually expands, the currency will gradually disappear. For example, if the Chanyuan needs electricity, it has to pay the electricity bill. However, when the staff of the power station becomes the grass of the Chanyuan, he provides electricity, and others provide him with food, clothing, housing, and transportation, and arrange for birth, old age, sickness and death. In this way, there is no need to pay electricity bills, and there is no need to exchange currency in the field of electricity use. Another example is that the chanyuan grass needs clothes, so it has to exchange money for the clothes it needs, but when the workers in the garment factory become the chanyuan grass, they produce clothes, and the other chanyuan grasses provide the clothes factory's chanyuan grass with everything they need. Since then, there is no need to exchange currency for grass and clothes in the Chanyuan, and by analogy to all walks of life, the needs of the whole society can be met, and the currency will disappear.

Another concept of money in Lifechanyuan is that the Zenyuan does not lend money to others, nor does it lend money to others. The chanyuan grass has given everything it owns to the home, and the home provides everything that every chanyuan grass needs, so whoever wants to borrow money from the chanyuan grass, I'm sorry, the Zenyuan grass itself does not have a penny to lend to others, All the necessities of the Zen garden grass are provided by the home, of course! He also didn't have to borrow money from anyone. This concept and practice frees people from a lot of troubles and pains, no longer owes debts, no longer has the pressure of life, and the cost of getting along with others is very low.

There is no money and currency, and there are no corrupt officials. If you want to be corrupt, there is no place to be corrupt! No chance to be greedy! Living in a Zen courtyard in my hometown has no chance to get in touch with money, so how can I be greedy? Even if there is an opportunity to be greedy, what is the use of being greedy? how to use? If you have money, you can't spend it. Hundreds of pairs of eyes are staring at you, and everything you need is provided by your home. What do you want money for? Do you want to secretly buy yourself something delicious and useful? There is no door. If you do this, your reputation will be discredited and you will have no place in your home. In addition, the grasses of the Chanyuan do not send gifts to each other, and they cannot form parties for personal gain. In fact, if you want to form a deep friendship with a certain person, it is useless and unnecessary, because there will be 256 homes in the future, and they will be transferred to each other after three years at most. There are other branches, and maybe we will never see each other again in a lifetime. What is the use of forming personal friendships with each other, it is better to maintain a good relationship with everyone.

Will there be corruption and ostentation in the Lifechanyuan? First of all, there are no officials in Lifechanyuan at all. Now the biggest official is the general director, followed by the sub-director. From a secular perspective, wow! The dean is the official! In fact, that's not the case. The reason why it is called the dean is just to echo the secular title, but its essence is that it is the "chief servant" and the "sub-servant". This "servant" is the servant's "servant". The dean is the most dedicated servant in Lifechanyuan, and the sub-principal is the servant who not only contributes a lot, but also cares and cares the most for every single person in the temple. Please imagine that such an "official" will go Corruption? Besides, the money is not in the hands of the dean, and the purchase of things is handled by a special person. The dean has no chance if he wants to embezzle! It's like the theft never happens in your home. Even if you can steal it, where do you put it after you steal it? How do you use it? Your room does not belong to you, the room is cleaned by a special person, do you dare to put the stolen things in your own room? Everyone eats together in the public canteen, works together, and conducts activities together. How do you use the stolen things?

A good program operation not only requires all members to have noble morality and self-cultivation, but also requires an efficient, orderly, reasonable, reasonable and legal program. As a tour guide of Lifechanyuan, I know this very well, and I can do it with ease. Why? It's very simple! There is no need to rack your brains to search for dry intestines, research history, exchange, investigate and think, just copy the model of the Millennium World of Heaven. In this way, not only can every chanyuan grass live a happy, happy, free, and happy life, but in the end every chanyuan grass After leaving the world at least, you can go to the fairyland - the millennium world.

2020-02-13

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钱财的问题

Xuefeng


基督耶稣说过，有钱人进天国比骆驼穿过针眼还难，佛陀的教诲是不积累财富，化缘靠施舍普渡众生，老子的教导是“金玉满堂，莫之能守，”“见素抱朴，少私寡欲，”“去甚、去奢、去泰”“一曰慈，二曰俭，三曰不敢为天 下先。”庄子的建议是清心寡欲，恬淡虚无。

神佛仙圣人的教导没错，因为人一贪恋物质财富，不仅容易陷入无穷无尽的苦恼深渊，更会使灵性失聪，远离大道，无机会使生命升华。

但是，神佛仙圣的教导是针对凡俗人生的，是针对那些不敬畏上帝的人说的，对生命禅院的禅院草而言，我们主要的时间和精力是为上帝服务，让上帝喜悦，在这个基础上，我们只要有机会，就应该努力赚取钱财，耶稣有过一个 比喻，主人出门旅行前给三个仆人各一定数量的钱，最后主人回来后的政策是按照谁钱财赚取的越多奖励越大来实施的，当然这个比喻主要是针对宣扬上帝王国消息的功德大小而言的，但是，这里的一个核心内容是，只要自己是 上帝的仆人，就应该最大限度地获取利润。

禅院草是上帝的护士，是上帝的仆人，是上帝的子民，所以，我们赚取的越多，上帝越喜悦，给我们的报酬越大，因为我们要建设世外桃源——上帝的一个乐园，上帝要我们享受人生的乐趣，所以，只要我们心中有上帝，坚定地 走上帝的道，赚取钱财为生命禅院服务，只要不伤害大自然，只要不伤害他人，就应该不怕赚钱，不仅不怕，有机会时还要大赚特赚。

佛教徒的路我们不能走，靠施舍不行，因为我们要对亲人尽心了心，这个尽心了心除了帮助亲人们认识上帝，走上帝的道外，钱财上的帮助更能让亲人们舒心，所以能赚则赚。

圣人清心寡欲，恬淡虚无的教诲符合古代，现代行不通，如果不赚钱，这上网费、水费、电费、车费等等问题解决不了，这些问题解决不了，我们无法静下心来修行修练，所以，钱还是要赚，不仅要赚，只要有机会，还要多赚。 我今天能安静地坐在这里建设生命禅院，就是因为前几年赚了点小钱，现在能维持生存，若当时不赚，哪有今天。

意识中不要排斥钱财，意识中希望上帝保佑赚取一定的钱财对亲人尽心了心，服务禅院，如此，机会一定来临，来临了，乘机而作。


当官的问题
官当的越大，为上帝服务的机会越多，修行修练在于心，不在于自己是什么社会地位和身份，所以，禅院草一旦有机会，就努力当官，争取当大官，能当上总统更好。


2006-4-11

Money problems

Xuefeng


Christ Jesus said that it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Be simple, be less selfish and have few desires," "go to extremes, go to extravagance, go to Thailand", "one is kindness, the other is frugality, and the third is dare not to be the first in the world."

The teachings of the gods, Buddhas, immortals and saints are correct, because when people crave material wealth, they will not only easily fall into the abyss of endless suffering, but also make their spiritual deafness, stay away from the Dao, and have no chance to sublimate their lives.

However, the teachings of Gods, Buddhas, Immortals and Sages are aimed at ordinary life and those who do not fear God. For the Zen Garden of Lifechanyuan, our main time and energy is to serve God, to please God, On this basis, as long as we have the opportunity, we should work hard to earn money. Jesus had a parable. Before going on a trip, the master gave each of the three servants a certain amount of money. In the end, the master’s policy after returning was based on who earns the more money. The more rewards, the greater the implementation. Of course, this metaphor is mainly aimed at the merits of propagating the news of God’s Kingdom. However, a core content here is that as long as you are a servant of God, you should maximize your profits.

Chanyuan grass is God's nurse, God's servant, and God's people. Therefore, the more we earn, the more pleased God is, and the greater the reward for us, because we want to build a paradise - a paradise for God, God wants us to enjoy the joy of life, so as long as we have God in our hearts, firmly follow God’s way, earn money to serve Lifechanyuan, as long as we don’t harm nature and others, we should not be afraid of making money, not only not afraid, When the opportunity arises, make a lot of money.

We cannot walk the path of Buddhists, nor do we rely on almsgiving, because we have to give our hearts and minds to our relatives. In addition to helping our relatives know God and walk the way of God, financial help can make our relatives feel more comfortable. Earn and earn.

The sage's teachings of pure heart and few desires, indifference and emptiness are in line with the ancient times, but are not feasible in modern times. If you don't make money, you will not be able to solve problems such as Internet access fees, water bills, electricity bills, and car fares. If these problems cannot be solved, we cannot calm down and cultivate , So, money still has to be earned, not only to earn, but to earn more as long as there is an opportunity. I can sit here quietly today to build Lifechanyuan because I made a little money a few years ago, and now I can survive.

Don't reject money in your consciousness, and hope that God will bless you to earn a certain amount of money. Dedicate yourself to your loved ones and serve the Chanyuan. In this way, the opportunity will definitely come, and when it comes, take advantage of it.


The problem of being an official
The bigger the official position, the more opportunities to serve God. The practice depends on the heart, not on what social status and status you have. Therefore, once the monk has the opportunity, he will work hard to become an official, strive to be a high official, and be able to be a high official. Better to be president.


2006-4-11

[xidaijena]

Re: Only Communism Can Save Mankind

I've done the research, and I conclude "Only Jesus Christ can Save Mankind".

One of my Favorite authors is Watchman Nee, deep deep stuff from that man.

Hi Waldo, I check the link: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%80%AA%E6%9F%9D%E5%A3%B0

Well, Jesus Christ is awesome, I once learned the Bible for many years and nearly became a pastor. Yes, Jesus Christ is the son of the Greatest Creator. He is the savior of human beings. HIS LOVE is great. His teachings are good for us to practise the way of the Greatest Creator. But the problem is: can the Christians build the kingdoms of the Greatest Creator on Mother Earth together? There are about 2 billion Christians in the world. Many of them are very kind. But they still have family and marriage. There are many churches in my hometown and I also go to the church to learn the teahcings of Jesus. But I want to know: how do the churches solve my Food, clothing, shelter and transportation ? How Jesus Christ solves the need of my love and sex?? Many of my relatives are Christians and they often ask me to pray and repent all the time. But can they solve my job, my marriage problem? The answer is NOOO. Learning the teachings of Jesus is very improtant, but we also need an environment to practise the teachings. I think, if Jesus Christ can Save Mankind, then all the Christians should unit as one family to build more and more the kingdom of the Greatest Creator so that they will surely save Mankind.

This is only my thought.:inlove:

[onawah]

Let's be realistic.
Earth is home to people at all levels of evolution.
If The Michael Teachings are credible (and I think they are), the main stages of human soul development on Earth range from the stages which the Teachings have labeled Infancy to Baby to Young, to Mature to Old.
See: https://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_ages.htmlare
This theory is nothing new, and doesn't depart from the teachings about reincarnation and soul development which have been part of Hinduism and Buddhism for centuries, but they do go into great detail about how souls evolve here on Earth.
Each stage has it's positive and negative traits.
As such, Infant and Baby souls can be very tribal, seeking safety first.
They are naive, being newly incarnating souls on planet Earth's challenging 3D reality of duality, and are therefore relatively inexperienced and needy, requiring mentoring, reassurance and assistance.
Young souls have "learned the ropes", are more adventurous, ambitious go-getters and can be self-serving "climbers" when it comes to getting what they want.
Mature souls can be very emotional and intense, needing lots of intimacy in their relationships, and can be very self-involved in various kinds of trauma dramas.
Old souls are wiser and more detached, focused individuals; often they are loners who just don't want to be bothered with wordly issues any more than necessary.

Souls at different stages of development have very different needs, not homogeneous needs, and trying to design a one size fits all template is pretty much impossible.

Then we have sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths, who may seem quite normal on the surface, but are conscienceless and though they are in the minority, are the cause of many of the world's ills.
Precisely because they are ruthless, they can ascend to positions of great power, fooling others all the while into thinking they are real leaders.
And those are the kinds of people who are ruling the world now, no matter what 'ism" we are talking about.

The most realisitic prognosis I've ever heard for taking a step toward healing the innate ills of our paradigm came from my late mentor, the very brilliant Dr. Christopher Hills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
...who said that in order to really progress, humankind must first learn how to identify sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths at their early stages of development and prevent them from victimizing their fellow humans.
(Many of these are not really what normal humans beings think of as human at all, as they are possessed by demonic entities.
The necessity for dealing effectively with such entities and healing the human beings who have been possessed by them cannot be discounted.)

Dr. Hills envisioned a future Earth where cooperative, sustainable, intentional communities have largely taken the place of nation states, but are governed democratically by the members of the communities themselves.
Families units would join in taking responsibility for all the chlldren, so no child would ever be homeless or uncared for, and adults would be free to marry, divorce, or remain single.
Members could leave and join other communities if they so desired, as could students engaging in inter-community exchange programs.

Many intentional communities around the world that seem to have been based on idealistic principles have turned out to be dangerous cults, so however ideal they may appear on the surface, they may actually be serving the purposes of some clever Satanic entities that are masquerading in human bodies.
We have seen this time and again.

We can be fairly certain that in China, the CCP is keeping a close monitor on any groups that appear to be inclining toward independence from CCP rule, and in other cases, the CCP is actually using such groups as tools of propaganda, with the purpose of fooling their citizens and the rest of the world into thinking the CCP is humanitarian, which of course, it is not, anymore than Marx or Lenin were humanitarians. See: How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118264-How-the-Specter-of-Communism-Is-Ruling-Our-World&p=1491539&viewfull=1#post1491539

And more to the point, with the tight control that the CCP keeps over all communications, it may be very difficult for the Chinese people themselves to know what is really going on right under their very noses.
Or to speak out about what they see, since if it's not favorable to the CCP's agendas, they may be punished.
One reason why sources such as those which are posted often on the Turmoil in China thread are very likely to be much more credible than sources coming from within China itself.
(See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111363-Turmoil-in-China )
...The former being people who once lived in China, but who still have personal connections with whistleblowers still in China who are willing to risk being targeted for sharing information the CCP would prefer to keep secret.

And of course, we see these same trends developing in Western nations too, so this post is not meant to be propaganda for the West.
Unfortunately, those in power all over the world seem to be holding the model the CCP is presenting to the world as ideal, and one they want to emulate.
And as we see even more now, with people literally starving in their own locked down homes in Shanghai, with their children being forcibly taken from them, the goal is not just absolute dictatorship, but also genocide and population control.

It would be comforting to think that the communities Xidaijena is recommending are somehow free from that tyrannical rule, but I find it hard to believe that is the case, in view of all else that we see happening in the world now, and especially in China.
If our eyes are wide open.

[thepainterdoug]

to be honest, I dont care about saving mankind. i care about living free.

It could be said that a prison works fine.
your cell opens, you come out, get fed, go out in the yard for exercise and so on. speak your mind, disagree and get a smash across your teeth. rinse, repeat do it again. see? it works really well.
communism can work in a contained group of like minded people. the more people, the more rules and force to impose it.
Its a spirit killer

And somehow there will always be an elite that are above it and get to enjoy earth in all its wealth and riches for themselves as they impose this system on all others. no thanks

[onawah]

Exactly. Which is why a first step towards freedom for mankind is to discover how to identify such sick individuals ( those who consider themselves the elite) early on in their development, and to limit their ability to cause harm.
And if possible, rehabilitate them.
Though if they can at least be prevented from doing damage, that might lead to an end to their infiltrating and/or or incarnating here.
It appears to be a long time before that dawn, however....


to be honest, I dont care about saving mankind. i care about living free.

It could be said that a prison works fine.
your cell opens, you come out, get fed, go out in the yard for exercise and so on. speak your mind, disagree and get a smash across your teeth. rinse, repeat do it again. see? it works really well.
communism can work in a contained group of like minded people. the more people, the more rules and force to impose it.
Its a spirit killer

And somehow there will always be an elite that are above it and get to enjoy earth in all its wealth and riches for themselves as they impose this system on all others. no thanks

[xidaijena]

Let's be realistic.
Earth is home to people at all levels of evolution.
If The Michael Teachings are credible (and I think they are), the main stages of human soul development on Earth range from the stages which the Teachings have labeled Infancy to Baby to Young, to Mature to Old.
See: https://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_ages.htmlare
This theory is nothing new, and doesn't depart from the teachings about reincarnation and soul development which have been part of Hinduism and Buddhism for centuries, but they do go into great detail about how souls evolve here on Earth.
Each stage has it's positive and negative traits.
As such, Infant and Baby souls can be very tribal, seeking safety first.
They are naive, being newly incarnating souls on planet Earth's challenging 3D reality of duality, and are therefore relatively inexperienced and needy, requiring mentoring, reassurance and assistance.
Young souls have "learned the ropes", are more adventurous, ambitious go-getters and can be self-serving "climbers" when it comes to getting what they want.
Mature souls can be very emotional and intense, needing lots of intimacy in their relationships, and can be very self-involved in various kinds of trauma dramas.
Old souls are wiser and more detached, focused individuals; often they are loners who just don't want to be bothered with wordly issues any more than necessary.

Souls at different stages of development have very different needs, not homogeneous needs, and trying to design a one size fits all template is pretty much impossible.

Then we have sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths, who may seem quite normal on the surface, but are conscienceless and though they are in the minority, are the cause of many of the world's ills.
Precisely because they are ruthless, they can ascend to positions of great power, fooling others all the while into thinking they are real leaders.
And those are the kinds of people who are ruling the world now, no matter what 'ism" we are talking about.

The most realisitic prognosis I've ever heard for taking a step toward healing the innate ills of our paradigm came from my late mentor, the very brilliant Dr. Christopher Hills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
...who said that in order to really progress, humankind must first learn how to identify sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths at their early stages of development and prevent them from victimizing their fellow humans.
(Many of these are not really what normal humans beings think of as human at all, as they are possessed by demonic entities.
The necessity for dealing effectively with such entities and healing the human beings who have been possessed by them cannot be discounted.)

Dr. Hills envisioned a future Earth where cooperative, sustainable, intentional communities have largely taken the place of nation states, but are governed democratically by the members of the communities themselves.
Families units would join in taking responsibility for all the chlldren, so no child would ever be homeless or uncared for, and adults would be free to marry, divorce, or remain single.
Members could leave and join other communities if they so desired, as could students engaging in inter-community exchange programs.

Many intentional communities around the world that seem to have been based on idealistic principles have turned out to be dangerous cults, so however ideal they may appear on the surface, they may actually be serving the purposes of some clever Satanic entities that are masquerading in human bodies.
We have seen this time and again.

We can be fairly certain that in China, the CCP is keeping a close monitor on any groups that appear to be inclining toward independence from CCP rule, and in other cases, the CCP is actually using such groups as tools of propaganda, with the purpose of fooling their citizens and the rest of the world into thinking the CCP is humanitarian, which of course, it is not, anymore than Marx or Lenin were humanitarians. See: How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118264-How-the-Specter-of-Communism-Is-Ruling-Our-World&p=1491539&viewfull=1#post1491539

And more to the point, with the tight control that the CCP keeps over all communications, it may be very difficult for the Chinese people themselves to know what is really going on right under their very noses.
Or to speak out about what they see, since if it's not favorable to the CCP's agendas, they may be punished.
One reason why sources such as those which are posted often on the Turmoil in China thread are very likely to be much more credible than sources coming from within China itself.
(See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111363-Turmoil-in-China )
...The former being people who once lived in China, but who still have personal connections with whistleblowers still in China who are willing to risk being targeted for sharing information the CCP would prefer to keep secret.

And of course, we see these same trends developing in Western nations too, so this post is not meant to be propaganda for the West.
Unfortunately, those in power all over the world seem to be holding the model the CCP is presenting to the world as ideal, and one they want to emulate.
And as we see even more now, with people literally starving in their own locked down homes in Shanghai, with their children being forcibly taken from them, the goal is not just absolute dictatorship, but also genocide and population control.

It would be comforting to think that the communities Xidaijena is recommending are somehow free from that tyrannical rule, but I find it hard to believe that is the case, in view of all else that we see happening in the world now, and especially in China.
If our eyes are wide open.

Dear onawah, thanks for your long and rational reply. I learn a lot from what you share and agree most of your sharing.


Then we have sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths, who may seem quite normal on the surface, but are conscienceless and though they are in the minority, are the cause of many of the world's ills.

For this point, I think, it is not the faults of sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths. They are just like the Biological robots or evil role played in the society. They have their function to help Satan to achieve his mission or job.

Most of the people on Mother Earth are in the circle of wrong consciousness. It is also the game or programme or matrix created by the Greatest Creator to help all human beings to grow and play games.


It would be comforting to think that the communities Xidaijena is recommending are somehow free from that tyrannical rule, but I find it hard to believe that is the case, in view of all else that we see happening in the world now, and especially in China.
If our eyes are wide open.

Yes, our community already realised the small group of people to be free in some control by the government or traditional thinking.
We will make it more around the world.
Let's wait and see.;)

[xidaijena]

to be honest, I dont care about saving mankind. i care about living free.

It could be said that a prison works fine.
your cell opens, you come out, get fed, go out in the yard for exercise and so on. speak your mind, disagree and get a smash across your teeth. rinse, repeat do it again. see? it works really well.
communism can work in a contained group of like minded people. the more people, the more rules and force to impose it.
Its a spirit killer

And somehow there will always be an elite that are above it and get to enjoy earth in all its wealth and riches for themselves as they impose this system on all others. no thanks


communism can work in a contained group of like minded people. the more people, the more rules and force to impose it.

Agree with you. Guide Xuefeng also knows this and he says, every branch of our communities can not more than 300 people. and We just want to build 256 branches. Not more.:inlove:

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It appears to be a long time before that dawn, however....

Yes, our community still has a long and difficult way to go.
However, we enjoy it and believe it will benifit our life.:heart: