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Deega
29th November 2016, 22:31
Whoua!, ''Italy’s Minister Of Interior: Surrender Your Homes To Migrants Or Face Jail'', never thought we might get there, wonder! But, will the Italians fight back?
I happened to read this in ''the Truth Seeker'' Website this morning, here's the link, what's next?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=143333
Fellow Aspirant
30th November 2016, 01:09
Whoua!, ''Italy’s Minister Of Interior: Surrender Your Homes To Migrants Or Face Jail'', never thought we might get there, wonder! But, will the Italians fight back?
I happened to read this in ''the Truth Seeker'' Website this morning, here's the link, what's next?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=143333
What's next, I would hope, is that people do some "Truth Seeking" on their own to investigate the reality of the situation. The link is to a report that refers to the Italian government wanting to force hotel owners into accepting low rates of compensation for the housing of refugees from Africa.
While alarming, the truth is a lot less disastrous than the headline implies.
One: the housing involved is in vacant hotel space, not private homes, and two:
the government has done nothing yet, preferring to wait for the results of a referendum on the matter that will not take place till next month.
Granted, the original begins with some inflammatory claims of its own, but the story that follows does not warrant the panic:
"Italy’s Minister of the Interior Angelino Alfano is planning to throw citizens in prison if they don’t hand over their homes to migrants, according to a report from Italian paper Ilgiornale.
Just two weeks ago, a shocking video went viral which showed an 80-year-old Italian businessman named Luigi Fogli being forced by the state to house African migrants in his hotel.
Today, we learn the plan is slated to go into hyperdrive come December, though the government is keeping it secret so as not to sway an upcoming referendum which could lead to the ousting of their current pro-migrant invasion prime minister.
From Ilgiornale.it (as translated by FouseSquawk for Gates of Vienna):
Migrants, Alfano’s Blackmail: Jail for those who resist requisitions
According to sources in the Interior Ministry, the Viminale Plan foresees enforcement agents and detention measures for those who resist requisition of their premises for migrants."
So, we are left with:
The Interior Ministry in the figure of Angelino Alfano is preparing to requisition the vacant hotel rooms of Italians to house migrants.
It will be done, explains Il Giornale, beginning only as of December 4 or after a consultation referendum, in order to avoid allowing protests by citizens to influence the outcome of the vote.
Calm down folks. Do some fact checking.
B.
Helene West
30th November 2016, 01:12
Whoua!, ''Italy’s Minister Of Interior: Surrender Your Homes To Migrants Or Face Jail'', never thought we might get there, wonder! But, will the Italians fight back?
I happened to read this in ''the Truth Seeker'' Website this morning, here's the link, what's next?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=143333
The ruling class seems to be turning up their cultural destruction of caucasian/european peoples a few notches. It's like they are trying to accomplish something sooner rather than later.
I read a similar instance last year of them busing young refugee males way out in the boonies of Sweden or Germany (can't remember which) of towns under 1,000 people and they made old people living alone on a check give up their apartments to the refugees.
This is a test. A feeler. They had concentrated on the northern euro's and now they are test driving the southern euro's. They want to test how much insult and wrongdoing white peoples will take. They are doing it here as well. Demonstrations and classes about / protesting whiteness have taken place of late. It's all Intel; and intel is the private cops / agents of the ruling class.
Some writers/media are making a deal about Brexit and the trump 'victory', some great populist movement. But to me it seems no matter what is going on in the very public arena/theatre, quietly behind the scenes the real agenda is being carried out regardless of what is or is not in the mainstream news, whatever puppet is is supposedly in charge.
Maybe the italians will be smart enough to resist immediately unlike the germans and swedes who waited until they became entrenched to start protesting or bonding. But even if the oligarchs get sufficient resistance against this latest caper they will just have their agents in spain or portugal or bangor, maine try something similar. Whatever is the particular style of the incident the aim seems to be to give the message to caucasians they don't deserve anything. Why is this so important to the elites? Ultimately I believe they will aim at disenfranchising any race of person who is working class or middle class but right now they are concentrating on whitey.
I realize the corporate oligarchs of the west are probably mostly caucasian but people today don't grasp that the white ruling class have nothing for, do not identify with ordinary whites outside their class. Obviously western culture means Nothing to them, they'll turn the Louvre over to be a mosque - they want their vision - their one world gov.....They needed ordinary whites for a few centuries but now thanks to technology and the global village they don't need them exclusively anymore to carry out tasks, all races are the same to them, including whites outside of their class. I think other races sense the pull back of any support of the white ruling class for ordinary whites and that is why race hustlers on campuses, politics, etc. are also getting more ballsy.
Anyhow, there is an Antidote - that is for caucasians to grasp - their Innocence. Really take in that in the year 2017 a.d. they are innocent people.
Whites have been subjected to mind control now for I think going on 3 generations that they are Bad People. If you never hurt anyone you're innocent and don't deserve any abuse, period. If your own father killed 80 people it is still not your fault. If your neighbor's brother killed several people and the cops couldn't find him so arrested your neighbor as a Proxy (scapegoat), you'd be upset and angry at the injustice. But that is exactly what ordinary whites are - proxies, patsies for the white ruling class. That's our job, to protect (albeit unwittingly), to be a schm*ck for the white ruling class. The anger that should be directed towards the elites never is, it's the function of ordinary whites to take on the guilt that they should be feeling and accounting for.
White Guilt needs to be more closely examined for the Intel PROJECT it was and continues to be - because if the ruling class succeeds in taking your job, or your home or part of your paycheck to give to someone who they are proclaiming is more worthy than you it will only be because of several decades of brainwashing that whites are bad people that should make amends or that they deserve it. Brainwashing can disable the natural impulse to fight against injustice towards oneself. Between learning that whites are bad or racist in Common Core and MTV for example the young are being primed for something like what is happening in this story.
I am not the white ruling class, are you?
You are Innocent.
Deega
30th November 2016, 15:38
@Fellow Aspirant, you should of read the article completely, here's some excerpts.
Italy’s Minister of the Interior Angelino Alfano is planning to throw citizens in prison if they don’t hand over their homes to migrants, according to a report from Italian paper Ilgiornale.
I guess it says it, ''homes to migrants'', can't be clearer than that!
The Interior Ministry in the figure of Angelino Alfano is preparing to requisition the real estate of Italians to place migrants.
Real Estate includes all type of dwelling.
the executive would be ready to take drastic measures against those citizens who would resist the assignment of private real estate to the migrants.
Private real estate, that ain't hotel!
Owners could bring this to court, but, waiting, cost, and since it is a government move, it would be difficult for owners. We'll have to wait and see what happened!
Deega
30th November 2016, 17:12
Hey thanks Helene West, I have read something similar in a website, but not sure if the link I forward is it. Here's a comment from author Lasha Darkmoon, October 5, 2016 in ''The Truth Seeker'' website. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=140576. She comments on NWO, disapearance of White race, new style of governance, mongrelization, with migration accross Europe, sure look like it, we'll see!
Why “toxic - Count Coudenhove-Kalergi ideas”? Because these are damaging and anti-democratic policies being implemented by neo-Bolshevik zealots within the European Union and elsewhere. Implementing these iniquitous policies will inevitably spell the death of Europe as we know it. This mass immigration program seems to have been maliciously designed to produce the mongrelization of the White European people in their traditional homelands. The race-mixing agenda of the Kalergi Plan has therefore naturally been seen by many White nationalists—see here, here and here—as a covert and cowardly form of White genocide. It is a silent genocide that is scheduled to take place surreptitiously over several generations, with its White victims wholly unaware they are being bred out of existence and replaced by an uglier, more brutal underspecies with a lower IQ.
To quote Christian Miller again:
The overarching goal of the “open borders” movement is to flood millions of non-Whites into all traditionally White nations. Make no mistake—this is not mere coincidence. It is White genocide by design, worldwide in application.
Cardillac
30th November 2016, 17:29
the same thing is happening here in Germany; several reports about those renting appts. have been forced to evacuate to provide housing for refugees-
thank God I bought my appt. yrs. ago (well, am still buying it monthy; it's called a mortgage)-
in the small village in SW Germany where I live a stone building, 3 stories high (like constructed to last for a loong time) is being erected to house refugees;
how can my village support refugees who have no connection whatsoever to German culture/Judeo-Christian code?- are we to blindly assume that just because they've been given refuge they will automatically conform to a Judeo-Christian way of life?- hardly-
the witch Angela Merkel adm. is not working FOR Germans (and legal residents as I am) but against them; when will people finally wake up and see what is unfolding in front of their very eyes?- Merkel is a globalist/NWO supporter- look at her track record- enough for now-
stay well all-
Larry
Deega
30th November 2016, 18:35
@Cardillac, I feel bad for the Germans people!, Merkel was bought somehow by Soro or another Illiminati (including Zionists), but I wonder how come German Parlement members don't see where Merkel is bringing them? How could the German People end up the Vassal State (to the US) they've been in since 1945, when does it end? Is there an opposition somewhat?
korgh
30th November 2016, 22:52
Absolute insane! Every conflict on middle-east or other country in Africa the result is the same : All the bills are sent to Europeans... Refugees, more taxes, unemployment and more at highest cost. I'ts like that Europe is guilty for all instability caused by TPTB and their dogs (and we know who they are). Where is the Vatican who preach the good will and fraternity and hide all their richness behind words? What about the UN?
Why not solve the problems where they really exists? Maybe is easier to maintain black ops, muppet politicians and pseudo foundations like Clintons and keep the fake media do the rest: annihilate with Europe.
Helene West
1st December 2016, 00:22
I don't think people who feel unworthy can stand up for themselves.
Ordinary whites have been made to feel like bad people when it is ruling class whites who should be. Ordinary whites need to stop suffering for the sins of the white ruling class.
The white ordinary class are divided and isolated. They gave up christianity decades ago particularly when they took TV into their homes in the late '50s. By the late '60s they were leaving the churches in droves. I am not saying to go to church but it was a form of bonding and networking and community with others. It was not only the hollywood amorality aspect, but maybe more importantly - Being alone in front of a screen is not very empowering. The technology itself was disempowering.
Even two generations ago here in the states some ordinary folk were still going to ethnic identity meetings like german-american this or that, irish american this or that, but no more... Ordinary whites felt prosperous enough or comfortable enough to let go of their immigrant roots. An obviously false sense of comfort as the oligarchy class was patiently waiting for the white ordinary class to give up their religious networking/bonding and then their ethnic bonding as well....Two former sources of strength strategically lured out from under.
One class molds another class into disconnected little sponges soaking up the message that they are bad people. And, after the sponges have taken in the message enough times that they are bad and privileged (hah, hah, this coming from those with more money than God) they are primed, the time is right to Pounce - Give me your home, give me your money, others deserve it more.....
Today the op happens to be about italians, - But the important question is - Do these Italians know they are innocent people?
Fellow Aspirant
1st December 2016, 03:00
Private real estate, that ain't hotel!
Okay, and private real estate ain't exclusively private homes, either. Yet only hotels are tied to the concept of private real estate by Alfano. He never mentions homes.
And ...
"Italy’s Minister of the Interior Angelino Alfano is planning to throw citizens in prison if they don’t hand over their homes to migrants, according to a report from Italian paper Ilgiornale."
... are the words of the reporter. So, someone (the reporter) is giving his readers his interpretation of what he thinks is happening. Nowhere in the article is there a quote attributed to Alfano in which he says he will be taking homes from citizens, nor is he ever quoted as saying that he will throw anyone into prison. The reporteer is making it up. Alarmist responses are not the exclusive purview of English media. :biggrin:
So, yeah, Deega, I think your conclusion ..."We'll have to wait and see what happened!" is a good one. We'll not get our knickers into no knots till we know what happened. :bigsmile:
If the Italian government was foolish enough to jail people who refused to give up their homes to migrants, then we could all share the outrage and the sh*t really would hit the fan.
But I'm betting that it won't happen.
Till then, let's all be calm.
B.
Fellow Aspirant
1st December 2016, 03:04
I don't think people who feel unworthy can stand up for themselves.
Ordinary whites have been made to feel like bad people when it is ruling class whites who should be. Ordinary whites need to stop suffering for the sins of the white ruling class.
The white ordinary class are divided and isolated. They gave up christianity decades ago particularly when they took TV into their homes in the late '50s. By the late '60s they were leaving the churches in droves. I am not saying to go to church but it was a form of bonding and networking and community with others. It was not only the hollywood amorality aspect, but maybe more importantly - Being alone in front of a screen is not very empowering. The technology itself was disempowering.
Even two generations ago here in the states some ordinary folk were still going to ethnic identity meetings like german-american this or that, irish american this or that, but no more... Ordinary whites felt prosperous enough or comfortable enough to let go of their immigrant roots. An obviously false sense of comfort as the oligarchy class was patiently waiting for the white ordinary class to give up their religious networking/bonding and then their ethnic bonding as well....Two former sources of strength strategically lured out from under.
One class molds another class into disconnected little sponges soaking up the message that they are bad people. And, after the sponges have taken in the message enough times that they are bad and privileged (hah, hah, this coming from those with more money than God) they are primed, the time is right to Pounce - Give me your home, give me your money, others deserve it more.....
Today the op happens to be about italians, - But the important question is - Do these Italians know they are innocent people?
I wonder, can you name one white person who actually feels like a bad person because they are white? Really?
Louis C.K. tried to guilt us, but we all just laughed ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUuYjSlME
B.
Deega
1st December 2016, 16:46
I don't think people who feel unworthy can stand up for themselves.
Ordinary whites have been made to feel like bad people when it is ruling class whites who should be. Ordinary whites need to stop suffering for the sins of the white ruling class.
The white ordinary class are divided and isolated. They gave up christianity decades ago particularly when they took TV into their homes in the late '50s. By the late '60s they were leaving the churches in droves. I am not saying to go to church but it was a form of bonding and networking and community with others. It was not only the hollywood amorality aspect, but maybe more importantly - Being alone in front of a screen is not very empowering. The technology itself was disempowering.
Even two generations ago here in the states some ordinary folk were still going to ethnic identity meetings like german-american this or that, irish american this or that, but no more... Ordinary whites felt prosperous enough or comfortable enough to let go of their immigrant roots. An obviously false sense of comfort as the oligarchy class was patiently waiting for the white ordinary class to give up their religious networking/bonding and then their ethnic bonding as well....Two former sources of strength strategically lured out from under.
One class molds another class into disconnected little sponges soaking up the message that they are bad people. And, after the sponges have taken in the message enough times that they are bad and privileged (hah, hah, this coming from those with more money than God) they are primed, the time is right to Pounce - Give me your home, give me your money, others deserve it more.....
Today the op happens to be about italians, - But the important question is - Do these Italians know they are innocent people?
I think there are some truth in this, but how do we get people to bond together again?, suggestions.
Deega
1st December 2016, 20:15
I wonder, can you name one white person who actually feels like a bad person because they are white? Really?
Louis C.K. tried to guilt us, but we all just laughed ...
@Fellow Aspirant, in Canada, the US, many Commonwealth Countries, most people don't feel bad person. But if you put yourself in German, Italian shoes, that's another story, they were brainwashed since 1945 that their leaders were responsible for the war, atrocities, they can't even talked about their true history, they would get jail, how can someone be proud? I've name these two Nationalities, but the whole of Europe (except Britain I suppose!) is under that spell.
Foxie Loxie
1st December 2016, 23:40
Being a citizen of the U.S. & an older person having learned more of the reality of our past with slavery being accepted as the "norm" for so many years; I have to recognize that even in this day & age there are unspoken biases that still occur favoring the "white" population. I don't feel bad about being white, I feel bad that there was such unequality in the past. :blushing:
amor
2nd December 2016, 02:13
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS ALL A NWO PLOT TO MONGRELIZE THE HUMAN RACE AND MAKE US ALL WEAKER FOR IT. IT COULD BE AN ALIEN PLOT. THE NWO QUALIFIES AS ALIEN, WHOEVER THEY ARE. The Italians being interviewed by the reporter all seemed horrified by the invaders. As for praying with their backsides in the air and in each other's faces, at which time they pass gas, it seems a bad joke by those who invented the whole fiasco. Was it the Jesuits? Were the inventors saying, "These people are so horrible, we must put them in a humiliating position five times a day and brainwash them from the cradle to the grave, making them brutalize each other in order to keep them in line."
Deega
2nd December 2016, 13:59
@Amor, you could have that right, mongrelizing people is probably a quick way to control them more easily, for whose purpose, NWO?, Illiminati?, Zionists?, but one/many of these are on the agenda, unfortunately, Merkel follow the lead, Renzi does the same. Hollande is quiting, I'm not sure if he's for it? Rajoy Spain, don't know. Globally, the EU seems like there following the lead also.
And all this is a product of the Saudia Arabia, Quator, US, Israel who pay mercernaries to fight a war on Assad because he refuses Quatar gas pipeline project bringing gas to EU competing with Russia gas sales to EU. All the people dying, mained, immigrating all over the place. A lawsuit should be underway against Saudia Arabia, Quator, US, Israel by the Syrian goverment to recover war reparation. Hope we see that in the future.
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