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ThePythonicCow
1st December 2016, 02:06
We have several thread begun over the last couple of weeks, on various related topics, that include substantial material involving #pizzagate - pedophilia in American elite.

The various topics are too entangled, in my view, for a straight forward merge of several threads to be useful. Such a merge would likely add more confusion than it cleaned up.

Here are some (perhaps not all) of these threads:

'Spirit Cooking' invitation found in Podesta emails... (Warning: extremely graphic) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94266-Spirit-Cooking-invitation-found-in-Podesta-emails...--Warning-extremely-graphic-)
Nothing here on WikiLeaks emails -- No Pizzagate? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94720-Nothing-here-on-WikiLeaks-emails-No-Pizzagate)
Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)] (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15915-Very-Disturbing-Jay-Weidner-Sacred-Mysteries-video--removed-)
Kanye West hospitalized, under psychiatric evaluation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94670-Kanye-West-hospitalized-under-psychiatric-evaluation)

I start this new thread to provide another contribution to this #pizzagate (the '#' hashtag being a twitter convention to mark key words labeling topics).

But it wasn't clear which thread to post this too, and I don't like spamming multiple related threads with the same post.

So ... I started yet another thread ... this one, to post this contribution. See Post #2, below.

As a "public service" I figured I'd list the existing threads that include pizzagate material, in this opening post.

Feel free to add more pizzagate material on this thread.

ThePythonicCow
1st December 2016, 02:10
In this 47th edition of Jan Irvin's "Unspun", Jan discusses with Joe Atwill some of the evidence, images, symbols and analysis regarding #pizzagate:
V8SXUdSUR4A

boutreality
1st December 2016, 04:31
Bravo Paul!

I very much appreciate the broader explanation of Moloch, relating it to cultural phenomena and the physical underground structures and passages that have been mentioned in accounts of trafficked and sexually abused children.
Many inter-dimensional links are underground, my take on the whole scenario is children that are never returned are not all killed; many are sent through to one other-dimension object (base; living quarters) or another.

I will say the Miley Cryus thing smacks of religiosity run amuck "Whore of Babyolon?" WTF!
Take away their slight yet obvious personal bias and selective application of programs like MKULTRA (How is it not possible she was targeted?), and this vid has A LOT of great info.

lucidity
1st December 2016, 14:11
The MSM isn't covering this Pizzagate stuff.
What absolute f@cking bullsh!t is that ?
There's clearly no independent reporting.
Silence on this issue testifies to the complicity of the MSM in these satanic practices.

Western political democracies presume the existence of a free and impartial press.
That's supposedly the counter-veiling force against excessive political power and corruption.
We need to take back the media... it's fallen into the hands of paedophiles and psychopaths.
I hope Trump breaks up these media monopolies and institutes some irrevocable laws that set
strict limits on the size of each individual media company to 5% of total market share.

Would someone, somewhere... do the world a favour and start selling Pizzagate T-Shirts
on ebay and/or Amazon. Someone needs to do something to bring attention to this important
sordid issue. There's every chance that such T-Shirts would become a cult item.
And i will definitely buy one. :)

(Creating this thread is a very welcome move... thanks Paul)

Post-script... there is _this_ record. Only 500 released so far.
I've not heard it.
I'm not quite sure what's going on with this, but it's clearly referencing Pizzagate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PARTYLINE-Bad-For-The-Baby-7-45-Bratmobile-Sex-Stains-Allison-Wolfe-Pizzagate-/302073712381?hash=item4654ff0efd:g:MqIAAOSw8gVX2a2d

bluestflame
1st December 2016, 15:37
re: "pizzagate" s5Rea2s3sHQshe's right about how it's being used to target "alternative " media sites

TargeT
1st December 2016, 16:04
The MSM isn't covering this Pizzagate stuff.


Worse than that, they ARE covering it (and covering it up):
Fake News Onslaught Targets Pizzeria as Nest of Child-Trafficking (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/technology/fact-check-this-pizzeria-is-not-a-child-trafficking-site.html) - NewYork Times

‘Pizzagate’ shows how fake news hurts real people (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-fake-news-hurts-real-people/2016/11/25/d9ee0590-b0f9-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?utm_term=.36f69d4c69c5) - Washington Post

Though I think that's backfiring by now, anyone that looks into this knows there's definitely something here.

The Freedom Train
1st December 2016, 16:13
We have several thread begun over the last couple of weeks, on various related topics, that include substantial material involving #pizzagate - pedophilia in American elite.

The various topics are too entangled, in my view, for a straight forward merge of several threads to be useful. Such a merge would likely add more confusion than it cleaned up.

Here are some (perhaps not all) of these threads:

'Spirit Cooking' invitation found in Podesta emails... (Warning: extremely graphic) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94266-Spirit-Cooking-invitation-found-in-Podesta-emails...--Warning-extremely-graphic-)
Nothing here on WikiLeaks emails -- No Pizzagate? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94720-Nothing-here-on-WikiLeaks-emails-No-Pizzagate)
Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)] (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15915-Very-Disturbing-Jay-Weidner-Sacred-Mysteries-video--removed-)
Kanye West hospitalized, under psychiatric evaluation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94670-Kanye-West-hospitalized-under-psychiatric-evaluation)

I start this new thread to provide another contribution to this #pizzagate (the '#' hashtag being a twitter convention to mark key words labeling topics).

But it wasn't clear which thread to post this too, and I don't like spamming multiple related threads with the same post.

So ... I started yet another thread ... this one, to post this contribution. See Post #2, below.

As a "public service" I figured I'd list the existing threads that include pizzagate material, in this opening post.

Feel free to add more pizzagate material on this thread.

There's also the #Twittergate thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94651-Twittergate

Flash
1st December 2016, 16:21
The MSM isn't covering this Pizzagate stuff.
What absolute f@cking bullsh!t is that ?
There's clearly no independent reporting.
Silence on this issue testifies to the complicity of the MSM in these satanic practices.

Western political democracies assume a central role for a free and impartial press.
That's supposedly the counter-veiling power against excessive political power and corruption.
We need to take back the media... it's fallen into the hands of paedophiles and psychopaths.
I hope Trump breaks up these media monopolies and institutes some irrevocable laws that set
strict limits on the size of each individual media company to 5% of total market share.

Would someone, somewhere... do the world a favour and start selling Pizzagate T-Shirts
on ebay and/or Amazon. Someone needs to do something to bring attention to this important
sordid issue. There's every chance that such T-Shirts would become a cult item.
And i will definitely buy one. :)

(Creating this thread is a very welcome move... thanks Paul)

Post-script... there is _this_ record. Only 500 released so far.
I've not heard it.
I'm not quite sure what's going on with this, but it's clearly referencing Pizzagate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PARTYLINE-Bad-For-The-Baby-7-45-Bratmobile-Sex-Stains-Allison-Wolfe-Pizzagate-/302073712381?hash=item4654ff0efd:g:MqIAAOSw8gVX2a2d

The whole title for the partyline sale on e-bay is "PARTYLINE Bad For The Baby 7" 45 Bratmobile Sex Stains Allison Wolfe Pizzagate"
worth having it all read

The Freedom Train
1st December 2016, 16:43
Okay. I want to share this here, because I feel like it is related somehow.

I just had a job interview today with a place called ACRHealth. Here is the website: http://acrhealth.org/

I have been sending my resume out all over the place, so didn't really look into this place when I responded, just read the job description (administrative support stuff) and applied. Upon arriving there today, I was not quite sure what to think about the services they provide, seeing as how many of them seem to be re-creating or encouraging the problems they are supposed to be addressing (just my opinion - I don't think the proliferation of loose sex and drug use is something to encourage).

But they put this whole non profit-y, diversity acceptance spin on it, so on its face it looks benign and like these people are all about helping people in need (and I am sure many of the people who work there do think that is what they are doing).

Also, this place is getting plenty of funding, especially from the NYS Department of Health.

They also have an entire YOUTH SERVICES branch, where they work with at risk youth....

So the interview is run of the mill until the end. The lady says, I have a question for you. And I am thinking.... why preface it in this way? This is an interview. All you've been doing is asking me questions. Okay, go ahead I say to her.

So she says, how would you feel about going into a local sex shop to buy sex toys, or buying them online, for our events and parties?

.....

What?? Why?

She said they give them out at their LGBTQ events, for instance. I said, I don't get it. I understand promoting acceptance of people's differing choices in sexual partners and whatnot (aside from pedophilia and rape) but why do you need to give away sex toys at events? What does that have to do with it?? She said she thought it was maybe just for fun.

I had to say, well no I would not feel comfortable with that, I am sorry.

As I am already on high alert with all of this pizzagate stuff going on, and learning how BoysTown was used as a source for the pedo rings (this place has services for at risk youth as well) I just wonder.

They have testing services, sex education, HIV counseling, LGBTQ support, safe drug use training, YOUTH SERVICES.....

I feel like I just dogded a bullet. Needless to say the end of interview was very awkward and I will NOT be getting the job.

From their website:

"ACR Health has speakers and educators available for presentations to community groups, schools, churches, health care providers, and other organizations. Our speakers are professional, well-researched and skilled presenters. There is no fee for their services.

Our presenters tailor their message to fit the educational needs of your audience. Topics include Safer Sex, Living with HIV/AIDS, Preventing the Spread of HIV and other STDs, How to Take HIV Medications, Sensitivity and Diversity, and other topics.

ACR Health has presented to audiences as young as six years of age, and to senior citizens."

"Community Street-based outreach: face-to-face risk reduction sessions, distribution of HIV/AIDS, STI, and hepatitis written materials and supplies, skills-building demonstrations, and referrals.

Educational Groups (Watertown): A single-session, video-based HIV/STD prevention session to encourage condom use and negotiation skills. <--- ?????

PLEASE, does anybody have more information about this kind of phenomenon? I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone!!!

norman
1st December 2016, 16:53
I just had a job interview today....


......So she says, how would you feel about going into a local sex shop to buy sex toys, or buying them online, for our events and parties?

...I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone!!!



The next step is to find a friend in the same line of CV profile and tell him/her what happened and to apply for the job too. But, take the opposite line at that point in the interview. Then go deep cover to find out whatTF.......is going on and document it.

norman
1st December 2016, 17:31
In this 47th edition of Jan Irvin's "Unspun", Jan discusses with Joe Atwill some of the evidence, images, symbols and analysis regarding #pizzagate:
V8SXUdSUR4A

Interesting bits in this but their grasp of the scene in Praia da Luz, Portugal is very wonky. Clement Fraud's villa was 3 miles away not a third of a mile and he was never a convicted pedo' because the facts didn't come out until after he died, just like Jimmy Saville.

Hey, I've just had a crazy notion about why doctor assisted death is becoming all the rage politically these days. The guys who are up to their eyebrows in the nasty stuff are clearing the way to make a desperate dash out of this world when they hear the police sirens.

lucidity
1st December 2016, 18:33
Come on Americans and Canadians...
you guys have a reputation for being dynamic entrepreneurs.

Figure out how to have batches of 10, 20, .. 100 T-shirts made.

Design 3 to 6 candidate PizzaGate Images for T-shirts.
(Or recruit the creative talent locally, or online)
Post the designs on Project Avalon and allow the membership to
specify their favourites.

Advertise the two most popular designs on ebay.
(Don't get any made until you have a few orders)
Post links to those adverts here... so i can buy one.

You'll be doing american society (and actually the world) a lot
of good by publicising this issue and allowing people to demonstrate
their objection to this sordid issue by buying the T-shirt and wearing
it in public. As i intended to do.

And you never know... doing this 'good thing' could be the seed of
new career in which you have the luxury of controlling your own work.

So please... people.. give it some thought and/or suggest it to your friends.
This is a wide open market... no one is servicing this issue with T-Shirts.
(good luck ... and be happy :-) )

The Freedom Train
1st December 2016, 18:34
I just had a job interview today....

......So she says, how would you feel about going into a local sex shop to buy sex toys, or buying them online, for our events and parties?

...I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone!!!



The next step is to find a friend in the same line of CV profile and tell him/her what happened and to apply for the job too. But, take the opposite line at that point in the interview. Then go deep cover to find out whatTF.......is going on and document it.

Wow what a radical idea. Damn I wish I had thought of that at the time.

Cardillac
1st December 2016, 22:09
when will people finally realize the world of geopolitics (this includes pedophile rings) is heavily (if not totally) influenced by the occult?-

we are still living in a Druidic society (the more things change the more they stay the same); what used to be done in the open is now done behind closed doors- but the occultic shamans behind the proverbial curtain still control events; we need to acknowledge this/come to terms with this; once we realize this we can fight/be rid of the sorcerers dictating our lives-

Larry

bennycog
2nd December 2016, 00:58
Bill if you do an interview again. Can this wonderful lady be on your list please?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmz7PlCa8i-WixMVTAWm6HA

Mandarys Alucard-Milan
Mandarys Alucard-Milan20 hours ago
Pizzagate is just what they CAUGHT. I was a victim of the New Jersey Watcher houses, provided as a "child porn actress" by my illuminati family. You aught to check out Meatsleep, a Youtube channel devoted to the "Sewnkin" pedophile ring. The videos feature houses I used to live in. Don't watch them at night. They are the most Satanic thing on Youtube. Say a prayer before you watch them. Also, you aught to do a video about Red Rooms. There are worlds unknown of illuminati sacrifices and child pornography on the Deep Web.
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Clarity
2nd December 2016, 01:37
What does Macaulay Culkin know about #pizzagate?

pOfF1D-UIM0

onawah
2nd December 2016, 20:00
HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN MISSING IN VIRGINIA
http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/hundreds-of-children-missing-in-virginia/
From : Forbidden Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlvC6a-ces

f you look at the website of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and read statistics of the most populous US states and their respective reported cases of missing children, you’ll see that as of 2016, there are 327 missing children in the State of Texas, the second most populous state in the US, with 27.5M inhabitants.

The number of missing children in Texas is less than the 392 cases of missing children in Virginia, with a population of 8.9M, or one third of the population of Texas. Most the nation’s capital, Washington, DC is engulfed by Virginia.

Another anomaly about the missing children in Virginia is that over half of them do not have photographs posted, unlike the reported cases in all of the other states. As the interviewee here asks, “Who would report a child missing and not provide a photograph?”

There’s a more disturbing pattern, having to do with the time of year during which these unphotographed children disappear at greater numbers. The monthly reported cases of missing children missing in Virginia – without photos posted – starts out early in the year at 3-6 per reported per month. In September, the number jumps to 23. In October, the month of Halloween, that number jumps exponentially again to over 40. During this year’s Election month of November, 74 children went missing in Virginia.

These indices are not readily available. They were carefully compiled by correlating the raw numbers.

The talk shifts to the pedophile bands who played at Comet Ping Pong, some of whose YouTube channels have been taken down, since I began investigating this report.

I have previously broadcast a piece videoed of a band that performs regularly at Comet Ping Pong called Heavy Breathing, whose lead singer goes by Majestic Ape and sports a red knitted face mask, sunglasses and a blonde wig. Her voice is altered through digital technology to sound like that of a man. All of this is not only disturbing to watch and to hear but it’s also to disguise the performer, whose real name is Amanda Kleinman, a college professor whose specializes in how to teach learning-disabled children.
You have to see this, to grasp how messed-up this is.

Alexandra Bruce

The Freedom Train
3rd December 2016, 04:13
when will people finally realize the world of geopolitics (this includes pedophile rings) is heavily (if not totally) influenced by the occult?-

we are still living in a Druidic society (the more things change the more they stay the same); what used to be done in the open is now done behind closed doors- but the occultic shamans behind the proverbial curtain still control events; we need to acknowledge this/come to terms with this; once we realize this we can fight/be rid of the sorcerers dictating our lives-

Larry

Agreed. And I was shocked to see that blood sacrifice is sanctioned by the Christian god via the story of Cain and Abel. I have never read the bible, so never thought to look into it before. No wonder the vatican has ties to all of this satanic pedo stuff. So intense!

I am highly interested in your suggestions for countering these sorcerors. What techniques have you found to be useful?

The Freedom Train
3rd December 2016, 04:26
Bill if you do an interview again. Can this wonderful lady be on your list please?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmz7PlCa8i-WixMVTAWm6HA

Mandarys Alucard-Milan
Mandarys Alucard-Milan20 hours ago
Pizzagate is just what they CAUGHT. I was a victim of the New Jersey Watcher houses, provided as a "child porn actress" by my illuminati family. You aught to check out Meatsleep, a Youtube channel devoted to the "Sewnkin" pedophile ring. The videos feature houses I used to live in. Don't watch them at night. They are the most Satanic thing on Youtube. Say a prayer before you watch them. Also, you aught to do a video about Red Rooms. There are worlds unknown of illuminati sacrifices and child pornography on the Deep Web.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c85TNtK9KgY

Fantastic stuff. Absolutely SRI correlation w shootings.... http://ssristories.org/

Dr. Kilde (former chief medical officer of Finland and whistleblower) says that absolutely the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders can be used to slap a label on ANYBODY (read: truth seeker, revolutionary, critical thinker, intutive empath, etc etc etc) and have them committed and medicated down to zombie status.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLIrZg8kaqM

Psychiatry is a science of control and subjugation. Mental illness is a product of psychotronic warfare and mind control. These are my opinions, and, based on my personal experiences and all that I have read and witnessed, as true as true can be.

muxfolder
3rd December 2016, 05:59
What does Macaulay Culkin know about #pizzagate?

If someone knows about pedophilia inside the Hollywood, that'd be Culkin. I'm pretty sure he also knows if Michael Jackson was ever a pedophile. And no, I don't think that song is coincidence.

Hervé
3rd December 2016, 12:25
Pizzagate: Podesta pedo perps and Clinton's international child sex trafficking ring exposed (https://www.sott.net/article/335512-Pizzagate-Podesta-pedo-perps-and-Clintons-international-child-sex-trafficking-ring-exposed#)

Joachim Hagopian Sott.net (https://www.sott.net/article/335512-Pizzagate-Podesta-pedo-perps-and-Clintons-international-child-sex-trafficking-ring-exposed#) Fri, 02 Dec 2016 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361328/large/Screen_Shot_2016_11_05_at_9_38.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361328/full/Screen_Shot_2016_11_05_at_9_38.jpg)


Use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of people already occupying positions in high places in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavor. Once an influential person had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati, they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm, and even death to themselves and their loved ones.

- Adam Weishaupt (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/pawns_inthegame/pawns_00.htm), Illuminati Founder Back in February 2015 I wrote a piece for Veterans Today about the undeniable age-old nexus between power and pedophilia (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/07/power-pedophilia-and-the-us-government/) when suspected pedophiles Bill Clinton and attorney Alan Dershowitz were caught with their pants down as frequent flyers on their registered sex offender buddy Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express documented flight logs. This coincided with the English royalty connection through Prince Andrew's (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2897836/How-Prince-Andrew-s-sex-abuser-friend-Jeffrey-Epstein-kept-list-nicknamed-Holy-Grail-great-good-Bill-Clinton-Tony-Blair-Mick-Jagger-Donald-Trump.html) known involvement. Having spent the better part of a quarter century career in mental health as a licensed therapist and clinician directly working with child and adolescent victims (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-failures-of-americas-foster-care-system/5392130) of sexual trauma and abuse in Los Angeles, I recognize pedophilia as a pathological mental disorder (https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia) and international crime of the worst disorder and over two and a half years ago was compelled to write about human trafficking (http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-human-trafficking-a-modern-form-of-slavery/5377853). Its tentacles have spread like a cancer to every corner of this earth to where slavery is far more widespread today than any previous time in recorded human history (http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/there-are-more-slaves-today-any-time-human-history). And Pizzagate as the scandal that won't go away is currently forcing us to deal with this abominable human malady like never before.

Last month a few days ahead of Election Day, FBI director James Comey was forced (http://truthfeed.com/breaking-bombshell-multiple-reports-tie-clintons-podesta-brothers-to-child-abduction-case/34348/) to reopen the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton due to smoking gun evidence discovered on the laptop filed under "life insurance" belonging to Anthony Weiner, the disgraced former New York congressman and husband of 20-year Clinton aide Huma Abedin. With 26 logged flight plans for Bill and at least a half dozen for Hillary, it directly linked both Clintons to Epstein's child sex slave pedophilia operation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q) on his Caribbean island estate. A second file on the Weiner laptop named "DNC Nuclear Arsenal" contained the dirt on Podesta and the DNC. In a third file labeled "Intimate" an NYPD insider (http://yournewswire.com/fbi-clinton-pedophile-ring-true/) claimed it included "X-rated photos of Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton with a teenager."

The cat that had already been let out of the bag a couple years ago obviously is not going back in, despite Comey reclosing her case two days prior to Clinton (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-11-06/fbi-says-its-conclusions-on-clinton-s-e-mails-not-changed) losing the election. Beyond all question or doubt a pervasive international child sex slavery-trafficking ring (http://www.howardnema.com/2016/11/11/child-sex-trafficking-and-satanic-ritual-abuse-tied-to-white-house/) has already been absolutely established and well documented long before last month's Pizzagate opened up the latest rabbit hole to a whole new can of Satanic worms. This most recent twist strongly indicates that just a stone's throw away from the White House the most egregious sex crimes operation ever committed in the nation's capital directly implicates not only the Clintons and Obama but as prime suspects Bill's former Chief of Staff turned Obama's legal counsel and Hillary's campaign manager John Podesta (http://truthfeed.com/breaking-bombshell-multiple-reports-tie-clintons-podesta-brothers-to-child-abduction-case/34348/) and his deep pocketed older brother lobbyist Tony Podesta, who for what it's worth, ranks #23 on GQ (http://www.gq.com/gallery/50-most-powerful-people-in-washington-dc) Magazine's list of the most powerful people in Washington DC.

The weak link at the epicenter of the still unraveling Pizzagate pedophile ring is 41-year old James Achilles Alefantis (http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/huge-breakthrough-in-d-c-pedophilia-ring/), owner of a pizza parlor called Comet Ping Pong. By the way, on that GQ power list, this guy's been designated the 49th most powerful (http://www.gq.com/gallery/50-most-powerful-people-in-washington-dc#slide=49) person in Washington. That's a bit weird in itself to have out of all the heavy hitters in our nation's capital a pizza joint owner as the 49th most important VIP. Through his posted display of dozens of perverted, bizarre photographs over many months accompanied by sick, highly incriminating commentaries on his public Instagram page (recently switched to private), along with dozens more WikiLeaked John and Tony Podesta emails to and from their intimate circle of criminal friends that include Hillary and Bill Clinton, an extremely strong and convincing case of circumstantial evidence (http://www.funnyjunk.com/What+the+actual+****/funny-pictures/6080949#14e885_6080505) emerges that when compiled together cannot be dismissed, conclusively demonstrating that the most powerful figures in the most powerful nation on earth may be hardcore Luciferian worshipping pedophiles partaking in an international child sex slave trafficking ring.

This presentation will tie the myriad of known pieces together that culminates the exhaustive, still ongoing, admirable effort made by thousands of internet sleuths (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1148311/pg1) feverishly communicating and exchanging information in recent weeks on Reddit. Touching a raw nerve, an open wound of pus-filled decadence is now oozing out of the nation's capital, where the most powerful movers and shakers on the planet live and work that could potentially bring down the global crime cabal. In response, no doubt under orders from a reeling, fearful elite, a week ago Reddit closed its subreddit (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-23/reddit-bans-pizzagate-we-dont-want-witchhunts-our-site) Pizzagate hashtag that's now been replaced by Voat (https://voat.co/v/PizzaGate) as the online meetingplace (http://archive.is/mCofy) hub for sharing info.

What's being exposed here is a thoroughly corrupt, broken system that carries out the most egregious crimes on earth that up until now through centralized media control (run by six oligarchs (http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6?IR=T&r=US&IR=T)), its crimes against humanity have largely been sealed and protected. But as much effort as the fake MSM news (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/11/joachim-hagopian/fake-news/) establishment desperately tries to cover up the overwhelming, in-our-face evidence, with Pizzagate critical mass is reaching the tipping point, and there is no stopping the ugly truth from now being widely disseminated to the global masses. Hence, the establishment is aggressively pushing back with censorship (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/18/what-to-do-about-fake-news/) on the internet in a desperate countermeasure to shut down the truth from getting out.

That the everyday citizens must be enlisted to function in the role of detectives working the internet trenches 24/7 to break the "story of the century" wide open, rather than wait for the nation's law enforcement apparatus to complete the criminal investigation, speaks volumes in and of itself. The fact that the FBI refuses to follow through on releasing its explosive findings only confirms its leadership is more than a complicit accomplice but an integral part of the systemic problem within a perversely diabolical system operating with total impunity, protecting the guilty at the top. Reddit's shameful attempt to undermine and thwart the citizens' online investigation, the MSM whores' failure to expose and law enforcement's failure to indict all prove that the system is completely broken beyond repair. The criminal establishment is currently in a state of pure panic, terrified that truth is spreading and under the clear light of day, like cockroaches the elite's running for the hills.

Pizzagate is the single most potent driving force behind America's secret shadow government and its MSM minions conspiratorially, frantically colluding with internet giants Facebook, Google, Twitter and Reddit to remove all traces of the uncovered ugly truth from the World Wide Web, deceitfully mislabeling and censoring it as "fake news (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-21/)." However, having now reached the point of no return, enough of the American and global public is finally onto the elite's criminal madness and propaganda brainwash that have successfully misshaped and manipulated our perceptions of reality for far too long.

This breaking story exposes the most appalling and perverse criminality at the top of the globalized food chain and in one fell swoop threatens to bring down the existing NWO international crime cabal that's owned, operated and controlled virtually all human affairs throughout every corner of this planet for centuries. It's time we smite the cabal's vile head to vanquish this demonic monstrosity once and for all, ultimately liberating a long suffering humanity from its genocidal stranglehold. As citizens of the world we must rise up and come together in unified solidarity in the name of truth and justice to demand fundamental change as we clean house, drain the swamp and root out this overwrought evil to hold the guilty accountable, starting with full disclosure of the Pizzagate story.

Honest renegade elements within the New York FBI offices and the NYPD grumbled loud enough to threaten to blow the lid off the Clinton pedophile cover-up based on the trove of incriminating evidence found on Weiner's laptop (https://www.sott.net/article/333069-Breaking-sex-scandal-from-Weiners-laptop-may-be-the-smoking-gun-that-will-bring-down-the-Clintons-for-good). Suddenly the US intelligence community responsible for so many of the WikiLeaks data dumps represented by Steve Pieczenik's YouTube videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q) announced days ahead of the election that a peaceful countercoup was underway removing the Clinton crime machine from power. At that same time, hundreds more of John Podesta emails were released by WikiLeaks (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/), and the shocking revelations began emerging just a week before America voted Donald Trump on November 8th to be our next president.

Checking with FBI code words (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/11/26/pizzagate-was-merely-code-for-child-sex-trafficking/) commonly associated and widely utilized in pedophile circles and investigations, instantaneously social media became abuzz on the frenzied, unstoppable Reddit message boards busily deciphering the leaked Podesta emails and connecting them to the pizza shop owner's strange and disturbing social media entries, piecing the clues together to come up with a dark sinister picture of the northwest DC's pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong that's apparently been acting as the front for a major child sex ring network. Shaking this tree may bring down the cabal.

The facts that Clinton fundraisers have regularly been held there in addition to two Obama (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/27890#efmAKgALR) phone bank fundraisers (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5326#efmADoAEY) during his 2012 reelection campaign, another Comet sponsored fundraiser at the White House where Obama (http://archive.is/4uB5R) was photographed playing ping pong with a child along with owner Alefantis being a White House guest (http://imgur.com/Ia1lLQK) at least five times, a letter sent by Hillary (http://archive.is/Jeh0X) thanking Alefantis for hosting a fundraiser, a document showing Hillary paid Alefantis (http://archive.is/5ljQn) $10,000 and even her main financier George Soros (http://humansarefree.com/2016/11/bombshell-obama-clinton-podesta-soros.html) donating another $11,600 to Comet Pizza through the PAC American Bridge 21st Century, these things don't happen to just any pizza joint owner in America but only to one with direct connections to the most powerful players at the top of the power pyramid. So when vigilant citizens investigating and scrutinizing Podesta emails crosschecked them with Alefantis' Instagram pages, a clear picture began emerging of a child sex slave trafficking operation indicating the most powerful puppets in Washington are guilty as sin. And linking Alefantis and Podesta to both the already confirmed Weiner evidence and the previously well-known Epstein child sex slavery ring, a more complete picture of hardcore evidence is now crystalizing that all the MSM deception in the world can no longer hide or suppress.

With all his brash, grandstanding bravado exhibited on Instagram for all the world to suddenly see, James Achilles Alefantis (http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/james-achilles-alefantis-and-his-comet-ping-pong-network/) quickly became the Achilles heel to the Clinton-DNC big wigs' active pedophilia ring. Despite James promptly switching his accounts to private (https://www.instagram.com/jimmycomet/?hl=en) once the Reddit investigators were exposing him, dozens of highly disturbing photographs along with his and his followers' equally bizarre, more than suggestive Instagram responses began circulating all over the internet, speaking volumes for the fast-growing, inquisitive worldwide audience busily putting two and two together.

On his Instagram account Alefantis posted photo after photo of...

[...]

Full article here: https://www.sott.net/article/335512-Pizzagate-Podesta-pedo-perps-and-Clintons-international-child-sex-trafficking-ring-exposed

Joachim Hagopian is a West Point graduate and former US Army officer. He has written a manuscript based on his unique military experience entitled "Don't Let The Bastards Getcha Down." (http://www.redredsea.net/westpointhagopian/index.html) It examines and focuses on US international relations, leadership and national security issues. After the military, Joachim earned a master's degree in Clinical Psychology and worked as a licensed therapist in the mental health field with abused youth and adolescents for more than a quarter century. In recent years he has focused on his writing, becoming an alternative media journalist. His blog site is at http://empireexposed.blogspot.co.id/ (http://empireexposed.blogspot.co.id/).


Related:
Progressive liberal values: Tony Podesta's creepy taste in art, the creepy people he hangs out with, and Pizzagate (https://www.sott.net/article/334002-Progressive-liberal-values-Tony-Podestas-creepy-taste-in-art-the-creepy-people-he-hangs-out-with-and-Pizzagate)

mountain_jim
3rd December 2016, 13:04
The above article is the most comprehensive, well-written summary, with so many links, that I have seen about this subject and it's relationship to pizzagate. Thanks for posting!

lucidity
3rd December 2016, 19:28
Finally... we have pizzagate T-Shirts now available on amazon.com.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=pizzagate+

I sooo hope they become massively popular cult items...
(like the Joy Division 'Unknown Pleasures' T-shirts from the late 1980s).

Suppressed news of privileged crimes... deserves enduring fame.

-----
update: I quite like the subtle simplicity of this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Pizza-Emoji-Style-Hidden-Shirt/dp/B01NBFQ205/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1480793078&sr=8-4&keywords=pizzagate

onawah
3rd December 2016, 20:18
Tying it all together...
-WnuR-yy48o

The Freedom Train
4th December 2016, 03:14
Has anybody seen this?

"Breaking:Comet Ping Pong Smoking Gun"

pM4I5cK4qf4

Thoughts?

norman
4th December 2016, 03:42
Sounds like a closed loop just got broken open, but the crucial missing info is how he got this and from where?

TargeT
4th December 2016, 14:58
Has anybody seen this?

"Breaking:Comet Ping Pong Smoking Gun"

pM4I5cK4qf4

Thoughts?

Nope, not buying that at all... he's sourcing one thing that was deleted. Why would they talk partially in code and then not in code in the same sentence?.... this seems fake, contrived... BS.

ponda
4th December 2016, 18:24
Some interesting perspectives on pizzagate from Max Igan



PizzaGate - The Psyop Aspects - Watch The Misdirection


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxIklMZS2Gw&t=2s

norman
4th December 2016, 19:10
Bump....

I recommend that everyone following any of the "pizzagate" threads and stories on the internet listen to this and share it as far as possible.

Max says, stay with the real leaks, not the Pizza store which is exactly where they want us to go and get caught out by something planted in the trail that's faked.

Meanwhile, the real story slipped out of focus.


Max also suspects Julian Assange is missing.

The Freedom Train
5th December 2016, 01:11
Nope, not buying that at all... he's sourcing one thing that was deleted. Why would they talk partially in code and then not in code in the same sentence?.... this seems fake, contrived... BS.

I too thought it seemed a little fishy. Like, too perfect.

It could be real, in which case how frustrating for the people who uncovered it. But who knows?

lucidity
5th December 2016, 01:39
This whole Pizzagate thing is just __TOO__ hot hot for them to handle.
They're going to wriggle out of it and claim that it's all fake news.

There is no way... Obama is going to make a presidential pardon for child abuse.
It will be easier for him to pretend it's fake news... and hence, ignore it.
And that looks like... what's happening right now.

But that's only a solution for the short term.
That stance will allow him (Obama) to ignore it long enough to leave office.

But there _is_ evidence out there, we've seen it. Wikileaks has it.
Someone going through those emails carefully
will find 10 or 20 points of incriminating evidence.
Enough to launch subsequent investigations.

I suspect, Pizzagate will blow up. Partly because ordinary decent people
are upset that Pizzagate is being deliberately ignored by the MSM.

lucidity
5th December 2016, 01:48
Given that Xmas is nearly here.

I want to suggest to you good people that perhaps a gift of a nice T-shirt
would be a generous and suitable gift for friends and family.
See here for example:
https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Pizzagate-T-Shirt-Medium-Red/dp/B01NCB0IMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480902204&sr=8-1&keywords=pizzagate

I am not associated with the vendors in any way.
I just think important that we focus on the corrupt
and criminal behaviour of those clearly unsuitable to lead us.

Western democracies assume the existence of a free and independent
press... whose purpose it is, to scrutinize, police and expose corruption and
criminal behaviour of our leaders and those in authority.

But we don't have a free and independent press performing this
scrutiny and policing role.
We need to break up the mega media companies.
Otherwise, they will remain in the hands of psychopaths,
Satanists and paedophiles.

This is a very credible T-shirt...
and a good opportunity to talk about censored news.
https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Pizzagate-T-Shirt-Medium-Red/dp/B01NCB0IMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480902204&sr=8-1&keywords=pizzagate

BongoBob
5th December 2016, 02:01
I suspect, Pizzagate will blow up. Partly because ordinary decent people
are upset that Pizzagate is being deliberately ignored by the MSM.


Well, it possibly will - D.C. police arrest suspect with an assault rifle at Comet Ping Pong restaurant (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/04/d-c-police-respond-to-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-comet-ping-pong-restaurant/?utm_term=.93c55ed305c6)


I wish not to bring much attention to this event specifically, with respect to the wonderful video by Max Igan posted a few posts above , and also as it is possibly a false flag (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1461475) sort of event.. Whether it is, or whether it is not, as I was reading it, I've felt that this will only serve to bring more attention to the entirety of what pizzagate is.

Whiskey_Mystic
5th December 2016, 04:34
Yeah. It finally hit CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/04/politics/gun-incident-fake-news/index.html

KiwiElf
5th December 2016, 04:48
It's being very much stepped up globally - not that you'll hear much about this in the MSM (this was November): related...

348 Arrests + 386 Voiceless Children Rescued in Global Sexual Abuse Investigation – Toronto Police

This is just police press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8Q9p-Wkec#action=share

Whiskey_Mystic
5th December 2016, 04:52
It's being very much stepped up - not that you'll hear much about this in the MSM (this was November): related...

348 Arrests + 386 Voiceless Children Rescued in Global Sexual Abuse Investigation – Toronto Police

This is just police press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8Q9p-Wkec#action=share

I know Huffpo carried that story because that was where I read it. I am glad to think that law enforcement is doing what they can.

Clarity
5th December 2016, 07:45
Having just listened to Max Igan talk, I can't help thinking it would be more appropriate to name it #podestagate instead of #pizzagate.

Iloveyou
5th December 2016, 08:37
Yeah. It finally hit CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/04/politics/gun-incident-fake-news/index.html

It just came to my mind what a clever damage control strategy it would be to send (an) assailant(s) to the pizza shop. It would clearly show the public how "dangerous and harming" it were to spread "fake news" about "innocent people". Twisted in itself.

Hervé
5th December 2016, 12:27
It's being very much stepped up globally - not that you'll hear much about this in the MSM (this was November): related...

348 Arrests + 386 Voiceless Children Rescued in Global Sexual Abuse Investigation – Toronto Police

This is just police press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8Q9p-Wkec#action=share
As posted with the video:
Published on Nov 18, 2013
Toronto Police Service announces results of international
child sexual abuse investigation, Project Spade,
341 people arrested, 386 children rescued
Posted also here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control&p=1116924&viewfull=1#post1116924) (<---) in what I catalog as "Damage Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control)" due to an apparency of "something being done" about it: Why would that "News" be resurfacing now?

Hervé
5th December 2016, 13:04
One facet of the accompanying psy-op "dice" (cubical or polyhedral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid)) is that such a behaviour is being "normalized," as in: "Look, most anyone does it... all over Asia... Africa... it's culturally ingrained... has been going on in families for eons (http://henrymakow.com/2016/11/athens-cradle-of-pedophilia.html)..."... to the point that "Justice Systems (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/school-cops-ignore-rape-15yo-girl-refused-notify-parents/)" would rather accuse and jail the victims and let the perps walk out with apologies for the inconvenience...

Well, that's an Orwellian twisting of minds that's happening... a slow, almost imperceptible shift toward "acceptance."

All that, thanks to Tavistock (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/diplomacy_deception/diplomacy_deception.htm), Freud and his nephew: Edward Bernays (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94369-Media-Manipulation&p=1117991&viewfull=1#post1117991).


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Sigmund_Freud_statue%2C_London_1.jpg/220px-Sigmund_Freud_statue%2C_London_1.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sigmund_Freud_statue,_London_1.jpg)
Nemon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Nemon)'s statue of Sigmund Freud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), in front of the Tavistock Centre, London

DebJoy
5th December 2016, 16:51
Pizzagate is supposedly "fake news." So is it their plan to create a false flag and send an assailant into the pizza shop just to show the effect that "fake news" has on the populace. They even boldly published the assailant's name - Edgar Maddison Welch. Did you know he's also an actor? I wonder how much this actor was paid to do this false flag? Was it more or less than other false flag events that involved multiple players? (Of course this might not be the same person, but it is the same spelling for first, middle and last name).

Here's his IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/

And another link: http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/edgar-maddison-welch-comet-pizza-pizzagate-washington-dc-gunman-suspect-photos-pictures-facebook-conspiracy-north-carolina/

Do you think they pumped up his bio prior to the false flag to enhance credibility?

The Freedom Train
5th December 2016, 17:23
The are so many references to "fake' and "false" news in the MSM reports that it is really obvious what is going on.

From the CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/04/politics/gun-incident-fake-news/index.html)

""What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories comes with consequences. I hope that those involved in fanning these flames will take a moment to contemplate what happened here today, and stop promoting these falsehoods right away," Alefantis told CNN."

Clear warnings to shut up about it.

Debjoy thanks for pointing out that the gunman is an actor.

False flag.

Orwell's 1984 has been my favorite book since high school. It is wild for me to learn in recent years how applicable it is to how we are living right now.

Bob
5th December 2016, 17:43
Looking on the DC deputy mayor's twitter feed -
@CoughingHillary @Francis_3 @SafeDC @DCPoliceDept He was an extra in a film shot in 2009, calling him a Hollywood guy/actor is not factual.

so, looking at the ImDB site - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm - "Edgar Maddison Welch" is known for his work on Mute (2011) 9 minutes, listed under "writing credits", shot in Wilmington, North Carolina, USA; The Mill (2008) listed as "storyboard artist"; and A Tale About Bootlegging (2005), listed as "production assistant" "

Image:
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/edgar-maddison-welch-2-e1480910868561.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

There was no mention of a film shot in 2009 in the imdb.com database where he was an "actor".

There is no mention of the fellow being an "actor" in the official database for his "BIO" listing in imDB.

However, below the official BIO, there is mention of "The Bleeding", where he is listed as "Raver / victim" which could be the reference in the tweet about being an "extra". That probably doesn't constitute being an "actor" which means I think being part of the Actor's Guild.

The Freedom Train
5th December 2016, 19:38
so, looking at the ImDB site - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm - "Edgar Maddison Welch" is known for his work on Mute (2011) 9 minutes, listed under "writing credits", shot in Wilmington, North Carolina, USA; The Mill (2008) listed as "storyboard artist"; and A Tale About Bootlegging (2005), listed as "production assistant" "

There was no mention of a film shot in 2009 in the imdb.com database where he was an "actor".

There is no mention of the fellow being an "actor" in the official database for his "BIO" listing in imDB.

However, below the official BIO, there is mention of "The Bleeding", where he is listed as "Raver / victim" which could be the reference in the tweet about being an "extra". That probably doesn't constitute being an "actor" which means I think being part of the Actor's Guild.

Sheesh thanks for digging further to shed light here. IMO the whole thing still stinks whether he is an official professional actor or not.

norman
6th December 2016, 01:38
Warning to Woo-Woo! Google's War against Words!

J209JImtRrE


Published on Dec 4, 2016
Warning to woo-woo! Google aiming at Alt-right has hit woo-woo square in jaw!
All alternative media may be at risk!
Be aware of what is going on in your search engine results!
Warning attack on alt-right media hits woo-woo!

Google, in an attempt to deal with 'fake news' which is really 'stuff too real for our sleeping population to accept, in our opinion' is changing some of their algorithms that deal with the display of results.

If your site is NOT alt-right, or woo-woo, you need to take steps to watch the words that google is banning or associating with the alt-right such that you don't get swept up by the new digital fascists who may think you are, like us, a digital untouchable!

KiwiElf
6th December 2016, 04:07
Related and good article here by Preston James (full article etc at link):


Satanic Pedophile Cabal’s Iron Grip of Evil

By Preston James, Ph.D on December 4, 2016

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/04/satanic-pedophile-cabals-iron-grip-of-evil/

When top USG officials are completely compromised & wholeheartedly committed to serving evil, it becomes hard for We The People to take back our Republic...

onawah
6th December 2016, 18:52
Someone in the Actor's Guild would be quite unlikely to take work as a false flag actor, however, I would think. It wouldn't look good on their resume. :o
People desperate for money or attention, or just plain crazy people would have no such qualms.

Looking on the DC deputy mayor's twitter feed -
@CoughingHillary @Francis_3 @SafeDC @DCPoliceDept He was an extra in a film shot in 2009, calling him a Hollywood guy/actor is not factual.

so, looking at the ImDB site - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm - "Edgar Maddison Welch" is known for his work on Mute (2011) 9 minutes, listed under "writing credits", shot in Wilmington, North Carolina, USA; The Mill (2008) listed as "storyboard artist"; and A Tale About Bootlegging (2005), listed as "production assistant" "

Image:
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/edgar-maddison-welch-2-e1480910868561.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

There was no mention of a film shot in 2009 in the imdb.com database where he was an "actor".

There is no mention of the fellow being an "actor" in the official database for his "BIO" listing in imDB.

However, below the official BIO, there is mention of "The Bleeding", where he is listed as "Raver / victim" which could be the reference in the tweet about being an "extra". That probably doesn't constitute being an "actor" which means I think being part of the Actor's Guild.

7alon
7th December 2016, 03:03
So today I just found out that a person who took photographic evidence for an investigative lead, was apparently being followed and is now missing. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466849

The photos were of a place in Hawaii that is suspected of being a front for trafficking and organ harvesting.

EDIT: Looks like Voat may very well be in the hands of disinfo guys.. sigh. I've been witness to a lot of credible threads being deleted.. one of them having over 1000 upvotes (which is A LOT for voat).

Then there is also this...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1467451

https://i.sli.mg/ed1NvA.png

gord
7th December 2016, 16:08
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=34671&d=1481126573
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=34672&d=1481126587
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=34670&d=1481126545

Olaf
7th December 2016, 16:53
I think, not in all cases those symbols are used as code for child abuse.
The international company Langese (http://www.langnese.de/home) has the double heart symbol at its website and also at most of their ice creams (at least here in Germany).

bluestflame
7th December 2016, 17:25
5XDxgKnv7eE max egan is right onto it

Bill Ryan
7th December 2016, 18:23
I think, not in all cases those symbols are used as code for child abuse.
The international company Langese (http://www.langnese.de/home) has the double heart symbol at its website and also at most of their ice creams (at least here in Germany).

And Wall's, in the UK (same company, different names in different countries)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YUI1wQievg4/Ts4WKzhAxFI/AAAAAAAAAB4/ll7lXYx6mYk/w316-h318-n/walls-ice-cream-white-light.png

norman
7th December 2016, 18:25
OMG, Orion Greys like strawberry Ice Cream !

Bill Ryan
7th December 2016, 18:30
OMG, Orion Greys like strawberry Ice Cream !

Yes. :bigsmile:

For anyone who's unfamiliar with what Norman is referring to, read here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theory) (or search anywhere)





On October 14, 1988, actor Mike Farrell hosted "U.S. UFO Cover-Up: Live!" a two-hour prime-time syndicated television special that was broadcast in North America (and elsewhere). William Moore and Jamie Shandera appeared (among many other guests) and discussed the acquisition of the Majestic 12 documents, and introduced their sources "Falcon" and "Condor", allegedly high-level government intelligence officials.

Interviewed in shadow and with masked voices, Falcon and Condor disclosed information about the U.S. government’s involvement in UFOs and alien interaction, UFO crashes and occupant retrievals, and alien biology. This broadcast also included the first known mention of Area 51 on television; also known as the "strawberry ice cream show" in reference to the informants' remark that a captured EBE enjoyed strawberry ice cream and Tibetan music.

:focus:

Whiskey_Mystic
7th December 2016, 18:50
Saw this a few days ago. Cross-posting from the David Wilcock thread.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eCIaCK3QhnE/Uld_-xXl6dI/AAAAAAAAAIA/6vhHqVjtlpc/s1600/photo+2+(1).JPG

mountain_jim
7th December 2016, 22:56
Wanted to link here to another thread post by Searcher of a Gordon White article I found of value:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94112-The-All-Red-Line-Updates-from-Gordon-White&p=1118674&viewfull=1#post1118674



Delivering Pizza to the Pentagon

If it is any comfort, George Soros doesn't know what's going on either. But something is going on.

Quote “There is a huge fight happening inside the United States right now between two factions. One faction wants to sacrifice the US for the sake of the empire, and the second faction wants to sacrifice the empire for the sake of the United States.”

-The Saker. 3rd Quarter Emerging Multipolar World. Solari Report

You cannot look at the Comet Pizza Instagram feed and tell me that is normal
social media activity for a local hospitality business. you also cannot tell me that it proves Hillary Clinton likes to run with a crew of globalist, child murdering Satanists.

It is nevertheless interesting that we came to this information via a section of the FBI whose job it is to run down these lines of thinking on a full-time basis. the Justice Department’s eye of Sauron was fixed on another corner of Scully and Mulder's workplace - the one investigating the state department emails. Not that anyone who subscribes to this email list was ever so naïve as to think otherwise, but the deep state is hardly monolithic.

I do not know if the codewords in the Podesta emails refer to the things Reddit says they refer to. But they are a code. Someone whose job is communication at a federal government level -someone who is sufficiently interested in food and culture to count appalling shock artists as acquaintances- does not say "cheese pizza", he says margarita. He also says “alle noci” instead of “walnut pasta”. And what’s with the handkerchief?

We don't know what it is but it's not going to be good. For what it's worth, Catherine Fitts thinks that it was the subtext of these emails that caused the neoliberal Clinton/Soros faction to back off in the last week of the campaign. Whatever these emails "bump up against" go much further up the chain than Clinton or Soros. This is a king hit in the Mind War –perhaps literally.

(rest at link)

7alon
8th December 2016, 04:54
People are making threads over on Voat right now about youtube and wikipedia deleting or removing anything that supports pizzagate.

I really hope one day, control will be taken away from these scum.

ponda
8th December 2016, 05:29
I think, not in all cases those symbols are used as code for child abuse.
The international company Langese (http://www.langnese.de/home) has the double heart symbol at its website and also at most of their ice creams (at least here in Germany).

Symbology can be used for manipulation. Just look at the all seeing eye on the US dollar bill. Who are the biggest consumers of ice cream ?

TargeT
8th December 2016, 22:12
the coverup continues:
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Cidersomerset
8th December 2016, 23:51
'Pizzagate':The Context - The David Icke Videocast Trailer

By Jaymie Icke on 8 December 2016 GMT

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=1119019&viewfull=1#post1119019

KP4z4hF7cTY

Published on 8 Dec 2016
World Tour Tickets - http://www.TheWorldWideWakeUp.com 2016/17

David Icke talks about #Pizzagate, The Podesta Emails. John Podesta's 'art'
collection, Marina Abramovic, Spiritcooking, Ted Heath, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton,
Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, Jimmy Saville and more

====================================================

Progressive liberal values: Tony Podesta's creepy taste in art, the creepy people he
hangs out with, and Pizzagate

Harrison Koehli
Sott.net
Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:35 UTC


© podesta.com
Because there's no job like being an agent for a country that kills Christians, gays,
critics of the government, treats women like dirt, massacres thousands of
foreigners, and funds terrorists. Good job, Tony!

The Podesta brothers - John and Tony - are creepy.

Most recently, John was the Clinton campaign's chairman, but he has worked with
Bill and Obama too. Tony is considered one of Washington's most powerful
lobbyists. (For more on their political background, see Abby Martin's recent Empire
Files on teleSUR.)

Not knowing much about them - aside from the fact that Podesta is interested in
UFOs - the first ping on my radar was the "spirit cooking" revelation from the
leaked Podesta emails.The relevant email suggests that not only are Tony and John
close enough to Crowleyite "magickian" and "artist" Marina Abramovic to be on a
first-name basis with her, but also that they are familiar enough with her "spirit
cooking" to know what that involves and presumably be fine with attending a
session. The casual tone sounds as if the planned "dinner" was probably not their
first. (See: Sickos: Wikileaks reveals Podesta bros participate in disturbing, occult-
themed "spirit cooking" involving copious bodily fluids?)

Read More....

https://www.sott.net/article/334002-Progressive-liberal-values-Tony-Podestas-creepy-taste-in-art-the-creepy-people-he-hangs-out-with-and-Pizzagate


Conspiracy of Silence – the banned documentary about the Franklin cover up

4AFrMpQxbmk

Also known as the Franklin Scandal, documentary "Conspiracy of Silence" was
pulled from tv just days before it was to air. Make your own mind up as to whether
that's because peodophile's in government were protetcted or not.

====================================================

David Icke Exposes George H W Bush

svJysyC7RDc

Published on 4 Dec 2016

ditting
9th December 2016, 02:50
Quote Posted by Olaf (here)
I think, not in all cases those symbols are used as code for child abuse.
The international company Langese has the double heart symbol at its website and also at most of their ice creams (at least here in Germany).
And Wall's, in the UK (same company, different names in different countries)



Good Humor ice cream as well...

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/e/e1/Good_Humor_1998.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20091230172140

http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/good-humor-before-after.gif

mgray
9th December 2016, 04:01
So where do we stand? We have the fake news push, costing Hillary the election. We have a "wing nut" going into Comet Pizza and we have social media executives saying it wasn't us spreading the news.

There is a list some of visit of web sites propagating false news.

Personally, I believe there are pedophiliacs in the highest levels of government. But the PTB are putting on full-court press to knock it down and they are winning.

Logos research aside, how can this move forward?

norman
9th December 2016, 05:15
So where do we stand? We have the fake news push, costing Hillary the election. We have a "wing nut" going into Comet Pizza and we have social media executives saying it wasn't us spreading the news.

There is a list some of visit of web sites propagating false news.

Personally, I believe there are pedophiliacs in the highest levels of government. But the PTB are putting on full-court press to knock it down and they are winning.

Logos research aside, how can this move forward?

Start another meme, like, Factual News ?

Might be very hard for someone like Alex Jones to stick to it though.

Dennis Leahy
9th December 2016, 05:39
I went through several searches at Wikileaks, in the podesta emails. The "pizza for an hour" and the "handkerchief with the pizza-related map" are the creepiest that I found. Though my gut tells me that these Ruling Class sociopathic misanthropes are certainly capable of and may very well be doing sex trafficking and pedophilia - I just don't see anything where a judge would even sign a search warrant much less a slam-dunk smoking gun on these issues. Maybe there is (or was), in anthony weiner's computer, (assuming that story was reported accurately), the evidence needed to actually bring down a Ruling Class pedophile ring.

My gut also tells me that (if the weiner computer story is correct), other Ruling Class sociopaths are named, and that makes revealing the contents of the computer into a guaranteed "suicide" by whomever releases it. So, my bet is that (if there really is a computer from weiner with the contents that have been hinted at), that hard drive somehow "accidentally" has already been passed over a large magnetic field and maybe even dropped into a vat of acid.

Bottom line: we don't have the evidence. Without it, we look like frothing-at-the-mouth nutjobs. All of the Ruling Class will be just fine. The "Alt Media" are the only ones at risk from this.



p.s. Hope no one minds - I decided to stop giving the respect of capitalizing the names of the Ruling Class misanthropes. I still capitalize "the Elite" and the "Ruling Class" in mock fealty.

Cara
9th December 2016, 06:53
This may be relevant here.... Tweeted by Richard Grove (https://mobile.twitter.com/tragedyandhope)


Pentagon “UNBELIEVABLE amounts of Child Pornography on Government Computers"
[Is THIS Why #PizzaGate is now Taboo?]


Tweet links to this story (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passcode/2016/1205/Child-porn-on-government-devices-A-hidden-security-threat) in Christian Science Monitor:

//
Child porn on government devices: A hidden security threat
CYBERCRIME

Explicit images of minors, which have been discovered on federal workers' computers across the government, can be gateways for criminal hackers and foreign spies. What's the best way to combat the problem?


Aliya Sternstein
@Aliya_Infosec

DECEMBER 5, 2016 —Daniel Payne, director of the Pentagon's Defense Security Service, admitted this spring to encountering “unbelievable” amounts of child pornography on government computers.

The comment came during an event in Virginia where military and intelligence officials gathered to address threats posed by federal workers. Mr. Payne, who spent much of his career in senior CIA and intelligence community roles before taking the Pentagon post, wanted to stress the value of monitoring employees' systems to ensure they remained fit to handle top-secret information.

But the revelation raised many more troubling questions. Who was downloading the sexually explicit and criminal material? How much of it was on intelligence agency networks? And why didn't the federal government deploy more robust technologies to keep child pornography from spreading on its networks?

While the notion of government employees and contractors with high levels of security clearance looking at child pornography was disturbing on its own, internal records retrieved through the Freedom of Information Act revealed the problem is not limited to military and intelligence agencies.

In the past three years, agencies ranging from the Postal Service to the Federal Highway Administration substantiated about 40 allegations that employees or contractors opened child pornography or provocative images of minors using government resources. The number of confirmed cases may be higher now since many federal organizations, such as the National Security Agency (NSA), did not respond to requests for records about similar investigations.

At a time when the US government is struggling to contain the problem of insider threats – employees who, for instance, steal national secrets or unwittingly damage US security by infecting federal computers systems with malicious software – pornographic images of children on government computers present a profound national security risk that if left unresolved could endanger American lives at home and abroad.

In interviews with more than a dozen federal officials and cybersecurity experts, they all acknowledge that government employees who download child pornography are more susceptible to coercion by foreign spies and criminal hackers.

What’s more, the forums where pornographers trade in sexual images of children are rife with malicious software, giving criminal hackers or intelligence operatives working with America’s adversaries myriad ways to infiltrate US government computer networks to potentially steal state secrets.

“These people misusing their computers, their government property, in addition to being odious and really stupid, does create an additional risk because they are subject to blackmail and the like,” says Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, a tech industry group. “And we have a major problem with the insider threats of cybersecurity, including people who are compromised for various reasons.”

Indeed, foreign attackers often initiate cyberespionage campaigns by breaking through the point of least resistance on a network – such as careless employees. For instance, the alleged Russian hackers who infiltrated US political parties ahead of the presidential election exploited human security weaknesses to tamper with the election, baiting political operatives to click bogus security alerts that offered cyber spies entree to email accounts.

Criminal hackers commonly use ads and other images on porn sites to deliver malicious software designed to steal passwords, infect computers, and encrypt documents on victims’ computers. A May 2015 study by the cybersecurity firm Blue Coat Systems found that pornography, in general, continues to be one of the most popular methods that hackers use to hide malicious software. The spring of that year, security researchers discovered that hackers installed programs designed to infect users’ computers in highly popular porn sites that accounted for more than 250,000 million monthly visits.

http://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2016/12/1017045_1_child-illustration-passcode_standard.jpg?alias=standard_900x600
Illustration by Erick Montes for The Christian Science Monitor

...
//

Full article continues at http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passcode/2016/1205/Child-porn-on-government-devices-A-hidden-security-threat

Cidersomerset
9th December 2016, 09:01
Another very good thought provoking show , they start off with the music industry
links to mind control past and present with Michael Chapman who killed John
Lennon and finish up with pizza gate asking questions of whether this is a decoy
and much more. Neil is open to Pizza gate and has studied the larger subject and
it is a endemic problem ,but is wary some of it does not add up and intelligence
links to Reddit and much more gives his cause for concern...



Neil Sanders On How The Elite Use Music & Film To Shape Children's Minds, #Pizzagate & More!

-xrS3eExC3U

Published on 7 Dec 2016

yuhui
9th December 2016, 11:27
Just saw this video shared on Project avalon's FB group and no one is discussing pizzagate there, and I thought it's a good video as people in it has done a lot of research: J0-QGu8lOO4

TargeT
9th December 2016, 13:36
I went through several searches at Wikileaks...... I just don't see anything where a judge would even sign a search warrant

Bottom line: we don't have the evidence. Without it, we look like frothing-at-the-mouth nutjobs. All of the Ruling Class will be just fine. The "Alt Media" are the only ones at risk from this.


The way the info was "released" certainly seems like we are being played,, especially with the "fake news" angle waiting in the wings & now the shooting at the pizza joint (with all the trafic cameras facing away from the place, then days later they are facing it again)...



It's kind of funny to think that we WOULDN'T be getting played right now... we've been dominated for as long as we have historical records & it's very probable that it's not humans dominating humans, rather humans acting as agents for...?... that dominate other humans.

our psychology is so well known (look into profiling and how crazy accurate it is) & we are far more predictable than our ego's would have us believe.... with these together we are the perfect subject to be... subjugated.

Iloveyou
9th December 2016, 15:59
My every day - mainstream - anti conspiracy - daily newspaper said today in a headline (in German): "How Pizzagate in Washington has become real", which means: Pizzagate is now real. Of course in the article they talk about the assailant as a "real" criminal versus the "falsely accused" pizzashop owner. But how many people do read more than the headlines. What sticks, are the words "Pizzagate" and "real".

Either the headlines have been written by the trainees, again - or it was a kind of Freudian slip. Could gladly happen more often. :)

marique3652
9th December 2016, 17:50
The MSM isn't covering this Pizzagate stuff.
What absolute f@cking bullsh!t is that ?
There's clearly no independent reporting.
Silence on this issue testifies to the complicity of the MSM in these satanic practices.

Western political democracies presume the existence of a free and impartial press.
That's supposedly the counter-veiling force against excessive political power and corruption.
We need to take back the media... it's fallen into the hands of paedophiles and psychopaths.
I hope Trump breaks up these media monopolies and institutes some irrevocable laws that set
strict limits on the size of each individual media company to 5% of total market share.

Would someone, somewhere... do the world a favour and start selling Pizzagate T-Shirts
on ebay and/or Amazon. Someone needs to do something to bring attention to this important
sordid issue. There's every chance that such T-Shirts would become a cult item.
And i will definitely buy one. :)

(Creating this thread is a very welcome move... thanks Paul)

Post-script... there is _this_ record. Only 500 released so far.
I've not heard it.
I'm not quite sure what's going on with this, but it's clearly referencing Pizzagate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PARTYLINE-Bad-For-The-Baby-7-45-Bratmobile-Sex-Stains-Allison-Wolfe-Pizzagate-/302073712381?hash=item4654ff0efd:g:MqIAAOSw8gVX2a2d

I checked the US Ebay and found the above item is also being sold in the US, along with these other two items; http://www.ebay.com/itm/INWO-Assassins-Pizza-for-the-Secret-Meeting-Illuminati-New-World-Order-Pizzagate-/291964966494?hash=item43fa77d65e:g:aVgAAOSw6DtYR5pU, AND ALSO: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COVER-UP-OF-THE-CENTURY-SATANIC-RITUAL-CRIME-WORLD-CONSPIRACY-PIZZAGATE-/122239332104?hash=item1c76082f08:g:stAAAOSwgZ1XtJkn. It looks like the t-shirt market is wide open for sales. If I had the money would create a tee shirt and market it on Facebook but alas I do not have the money to start up such an endeavor but would certainly make a person rich, lol. There are many anti Hillary groups and pages on Facebook to advertise and I am certain that a lot of money could be made...

Daughter of Time
9th December 2016, 19:04
YouTube is removing all pizzagate videos. While the titles still remain, when you click on a "pizzagate" title, you don't get the video. You get some music video instead!

Hillary Clinton recently announced that the internet would have to be changed so that all "fake news" would be prevented from being posted.

Matthew
9th December 2016, 19:16
... Though my gut tells me that these Ruling Class sociopathic misanthropes are certainly capable of and may very well be doing sex trafficking and pedophilia - I just don't see anything where a judge would even sign a search warrant much less a slam-dunk smoking gun on these issues. ...

Not quite a big hitter smoking gun, and at first seemingly unconnected to pizzagate but the closest I can think of are the Madeleine McCann photofits released by the UK police and reported by the BBC on 14 October 2013. This is police published research if nothing else. The 'coincidence' of resemblance to the Podesta brothers might turn out to complement other evidence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24519746

Madeleine McCann search: E-fit man seen 'carrying child'
14 October 2013 Last updated at 14:19 BST
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/13/article-0-18B8A6BF00000578-613_634x420.jpg
British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have provided more details about a man they say could be of vital importance to their inquiry.
...

norman
9th December 2016, 19:22
YouTube is removing all pizzagate videos. While the titles still remain, when you click on a "pizzagate" title, you don't get the video. You get some music video instead!

Hillary Clinton recently announced that the internet would have to be changed so that all "fake news" would be prevented from being posted.

Hopefully, the very process of administering this ongoing coverup will be well blown by the next whistle blower to come out. Everything they do is vulnerable to being exposed. Covering their tracks is as guilty as the tracks.

onawah
9th December 2016, 19:49
We are the real movement to destroy fake news
Dec 9 by Jon Rappoport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/12/09/we-are-the-real-movement-to-destroy-fake-news/

The new mandate is: throw off the tattered tasseled layers of horse****.

The bottom line: we are the real movement.

We’re the people who have the job of exposing big-time mainstream news as the frauds they are.

Along the way, we’ve encountered some strange ghouls and goblins. Just to sketch in a few recent editions:

Scott Pelley (CBS) is careful to watch himself. His tendency is to shove the message down the viewer’s throat like a pro surgeon making an incision without bothering to administer an anesthetic. Pelley’s been working to correct that. He’s a high-IQ android who’s training himself to be human. It’s not going well.

Diane (formerly of ABC) “don’t cry for me, America” Sawyer wandered into sloppiness. She poured syrup on her words, as if she’d had a few cocktails before breakfast. She affected a pose of “caring too much” and “refusing to apologize for it”—“I’m suffering for humanity and I won’t cover it up.” Sniff, sniff.

Before being put out to dry for lying about being shot at in Iraq, Brian Williams (NBC) was head and shoulders above his competitors. You had to look and listen very hard to spot even a speck of confusion in his delivery. He knew exactly how to believe his act was real. He could also flick a little aw-shucks apple-pie at the viewer. Country boy who moved to the big city.

Of course, Brian is now back. His bosses let him sneak in the side door at MSNBC, the only major news channel with ratings lower than Howdy Doody reruns.

Brian just let loose with a sober reasoned criticism of “fake news sites” the other day, claiming the real news has a responsibility to shoulder the load of truth. He neglected to mention he was kicked out of the news business for spreading fake news about himself—but no problem, the past is dead, and he’s a new man thanks to the love of his family and his deep reflections on character, mission, devotion, fidelity, and shilling for his masters…

Those are a few ghouls among many.

We are in the middle of the death throes of the old guard, and we need to recognize that. They’re going away. Independent media are taking over. It’s called decentralization.

Blackouts and censorship are the only weapons they have left. And guess how they’re trying to make that happen? They’re appealing to social media—Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and Google (which through its rankings is a form of social media). Amazing. Social media numbers are far higher than those of major newspapers and television news.

On Fade to Black radio last night (I have a regular Thursday slot), I discussed the death-rattle of major media. Host Jimmy Church made an interesting point. When CNN started out as the first 24/7 all-news global network, they were the “rebels.” They were the new faces and the interlopers, and they were hell-bent on muscling into the game. (Of course, their predilection for honesty was just another con.) Eventually, they turned into the media giants they purportedly hated. And now, with their ratings in the tank, they can’t go back. They’re trapped. They can’t reinvent themselves as new kids on the block. They’re slow, they’re Clinton fellow travelers, they’re racists accusing other people of being racists, they’re basically a bunch of miscreants who—if they didn’t have their jobs—would be lucky to land gigs pumping gas in Death Valley. It’s a sight to behold.

For the most part, FOX, another upstart, became a parade of young blondes who, one after another, rose and then fell. Remembering their names was like remembering winners of the Miss America pageant. Megyn Kelly, the latest edition, thinks she’s immune from that fate. Watch out, M. A few years from now, you could become just another tired face on one of the major network’s morning gab shows, listening attentively to some tattooed teen rocker talk about the drop of his latest album, his interest in wildlife sanctuaries, and his love of brisket sandwiches from some NYC deli 300 million Americans have never heard of.

It’s all going away. Bye, bye.

You have a choice. You can read, listen to, and watch any of a hundred thousand sites and blogs for your news, or you can attach yourself like a barnacle to the slow moving spewing ships of state/corporate media.

You can hope that the consensus status quo will hold, and reality will basically remain unchanged, or you can dump that fairy tale.

You can believe that all significant events on this planet emerge organically/randomly/accidentally, or you can investigate the concept that elite groups are steering us toward their New World, because they live for control.

You can live in a hazy gauzy dream that siphons away your energy, or you can embark on a new course of adventure that strips away the veneer and the shadows.

You can believe you are helpless before larger forces, or you can invent a different vision for yourself.

You can raise your children to be pawns, or you can inspire them with the knowledge of their own freedom and power.

You can “leave things to others,” or you can join in the fray.

You can claim you don’t know what to do, or you can figure out what to do on your own.

When I started this site in 2001, I shoved in all my chips on the idea that there were MANY individuals out there who could re-grasp their own power and figure out what to do on their own.

I haven’t moved off that premise. And I won’t.

I welcome the old layer of media reality being stripped away, because that leaves the individual in charge.

Toss that old chunk of mind control and hypnosis into the garbage and cross the threshold into a new time. The time you make.

Don’t complain, don’t explain. You’re the new elite.

Accept it.

An elite without the desire to control others. An elite based on merit. An elite based on life-force showing up when you know the future is unwritten.

Is that too much to ask?

I don’t think so. I don’t think so at all.

The game is afoot. The game is always afoot. If you can see it.

7alon
10th December 2016, 03:15
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201611021047005341-south-korea-shaman-gate/

Also, didn't expect David Wilcock of all people to talk about pizzagate..

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1208-endgame-pt-1

The Freedom Train
10th December 2016, 04:13
Good Humor ice cream as well...

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/e/e1/Good_Humor_1998.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20091230172140

http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/good-humor-before-after.gif

Strange that so many ice cream brands have the same logo. An odd coincidence that it looks so much like an FBI identified pedo sign. Curioser and curioser.

The Freedom Train
10th December 2016, 04:31
The way the info was "released" certainly seems like we are being played,, especially with the "fake news" angle waiting in the wings & now the shooting at the pizza joint (with all the trafic cameras facing away from the place, then days later they are facing it again)...

It's kind of funny to think that we WOULDN'T be getting played right now... we've been dominated for as long as we have historical records & it's very probable that it's not humans dominating humans, rather humans acting as agents for...?... that dominate other humans.

our psychology is so well known (look into profiling and how crazy accurate it is) & we are far more predictable than our ego's would have us believe.... with these together we are the perfect subject to be... subjugated.

TargeT you hit the target on that one, IMO. When I decide to think about my beliefs, I find I cannot truly say I believe in much of anything. But when I get my thinking cap on, I come to the same conclusion over and over again - that whatever is behind the evils in this world, which causes suffering in a myriad of ways, it cannot be human. The deflection of evildoings on human perpatrators (ie puppets) seems to be the greatest coverup of all time. Cut off the hydra head, and find twenty more in its place.

What is the source? The archons? What is your take TargeT?

The Freedom Train
10th December 2016, 05:43
Wow. This is so upsetting and triggering.

"Even among lower animals, lacking obeisance to a purported deity-in-the-flesh, the inability to take the simple steps which would lessen their own pain, in exiting from a harmful environment, has long been known. That knowledge has come in large part via Martin Seligman’s experiments in the mid-’70s, in which animals were given electric shocks in an environment where they could not escape that mistreatment.

At first the animals fought, tried to get away, and uttered cries of pain or anger. Then they sank into listlessness and despair. Later on, in a second set of experiments, the same animals were shocked again—only this time, by pressing a certain lever or completing some other simple task, they could stop the electric current. But they made no effort to do so.

The animals had learned to be helpless. Due to their previous experiences, even when a means of escape from the pain was provided, these animals were too defeated, perhaps defeated neurologically, to take the simple action that would end their suffering (Matsakis, 1996). "

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/gurusandprisoners.html

" AS WE HAVE SEEN, a common set of alleged problems, even expressed in nearly identical words, tend to occur in our world’s spiritual communities. Indeed, the reported characteristics observed are essentially independent of the specific beliefs espoused by the community, and of the historical time and place in which the spiritual leader and his disciples have existed.

Why would that be?

A large part of the answer surely comes from well-known research done at Stanford University in the early 1970s. There, Dr. Philip Zimbardo—later, president of the American Psychological Association—was able to inadvertently transform a group of “healthy, intelligent, middle-class” college-age individuals into “fearful, depressed, neurotic, suicidal shadows” in less than a week. He did that simply by arbitrarily assigning them (via the flip of a coin) to guard/prisoner roles in a simulated prison environment which they all knew was just an experiment."

The Freedom Train
10th December 2016, 07:33
tfXWXNItF_Y

*sigh*

7alon
10th December 2016, 12:43
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/ Argh, embed not working :(

Pam
10th December 2016, 14:48
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201611021047005341-south-korea-shaman-gate/

Also, didn't expect David Wilcock of all people to talk about pizzagate..

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1208-endgame-pt-1


This is the kind of thing that David Wilcock does best. He is a good researcher. I hope he continues to follow this. It is nice to see him doing something besides the absurd Corey stuff, which has ruined his credibility in my opinion.

Daughter of Time
10th December 2016, 17:49
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/ Argh, embed not working :(

In a very tiny nutshell:

many disasters, many upheavals, many betrayals, much chaos, much unpleasantness on so many levels - but with positive outcome in the end!

Olam
10th December 2016, 18:35
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/ Argh, embed not working :(

In a very tiny nutshell:

many disasters, many upheavals, many betrayals, much chaos, much unpleasantness on so many levels - but with positive outcome in the end!

I would add:

Sudden events that seem unexpected to the sheeple but that are totally on course of things from universe standpoint that will force some to dig deep and find who they really are. Humanity facing some big challenges, end of big cycles, make or break moments that purify and cleanse with the power of natural selection. For those who wonder what it is that they are supposed to do in this life, they will have that moment where they step up to the challenge and become the master of their lives and their loved ones and finally understand what is their purpose in this messed up and lost society. Its the start of new cycles and an opportunity to ride the wave instead of suffering it.
2016 is the end of the 9 year numerological cycle and 2017 the start of a new 9 year cycle.
Big time moments we are in now...

Hervé
10th December 2016, 22:06
The pizzagate files: Who's that in James Alefantis's Instagram profile pic? (https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@ausbitbank/james-alefantis-s-instagram-profile-picture-is-antinous-a-literal-monument-to-pederasty-pedophilia-git-repo-updated)

by ausbitbank (https://steemit.com/@ausbitbank)
steemit (https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@ausbitbank/james-alefantis-s-instagram-profile-picture-is-antinous-a-literal-monument-to-pederasty-pedophilia-git-repo-updated)
Fri, 02 Dec 2016 19:22 UTC




https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361804/large/cometpingpong.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361804/full/cometpingpong.jpg)

Remember this profile picture, that every researcher has seen on every jimmycommet instagram post for weeks now?


https://www.sott.net/image/s18/363068/large/rl43tTO.png (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/363068/full/rl43tTO.png)

It's been yet another clue this whole time.

This image compilation says the story far better then I can, resource links to everything will be provided at the bottom at the post.

http://i.imgur.com/Cbj5l41.jpg


View full size / Download (http://imgur.com/Cbj5l41.jpg)

Relevant Resources:

Wiki for Antinous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous)
Wiki for Emperor Hadrian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian)
Wiki for Antinopolis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinopolis)
Wiki for Osiris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris)
Google Image search for Antinous Osiris (https://www.google.com.au/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=954&q=antinous+osiris)
Google Books page for "Beloved and God: The Story of Hadrian and Antinous (https://books.google.com.au/books/about/Beloved_and_God.html?id=WwpwQgAACAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y&hl=en)" by Royston Lambert
Github Research Archive (https://github.com/ausbitbank/pizzagate/)
JimmyCommet instagram archives (https://github.com/ausbitbank/pizzagate/tree/master/comet-ping-pong-instagram-pictures)
Steemit Pizzagate Posts (https://steemit.com/created/pizzagate)


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... which goes right along with this: Athens: Cradle of Pedophilia and Mind Control (http://henrymakow.com/2016/11/athens-cradle-of-pedophilia.html)

Bluegreen
10th December 2016, 23:16
Thank you for making this documented information available to the public, please continue. Don't mean to derail with a passing thought ...

There are three places these odious criminals run their racket from and all three have their own police forces and mayors. None are countries, states, or even actual cities as defined by our so-called legal system. In fact, they are sovereign unto themselves.

Okay ... now I'm going to pull some numbers out of my head without checking them and they may or may not be right so please forgive me ...

Recent missing children statistics from Texas (pop 25.5 mil) list 327 missing minors. Statistics from the same period of time in Virginia (pop 7.5 mil) list 392, with most occurring in the month of October.

What problem is currently engulfing Washington DC?
What problem has engulfed Rome for the past 20 years?
What problem has engulfed London for the past 5 years?

ponda
10th December 2016, 23:51
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/ Argh, embed not working :(


There's a few interpretations here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=economist+cover+2017

Hervé
11th December 2016, 01:31
Andrew Breitbart - Was he murdered for investigating pizzagate back in 2012 ? [Compilation in progress] (https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@ausbitbank/andrew-breitbart-was-he-murdered-for-investigating-pizzagate-back-in-2012-compilation-in-progress)

11 days ago by ausbitbank (https://steemit.com/@ausbitbank) 66 in pizzagate (https://steemit.com/trending/pizzagate)


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/ABOg0F.jpg
Andrew Breitbart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart) was a journalist, author and tv personality as well as founder of the Breitbart News Network (http://www.breitbart.com/).


He has been a vocal critic of many US policies, and towards the end of his life he was focused on John Podesta.

This clip from the 2012 documentary "Hating Breitbart (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2400336/)" shows the growing anger and resentment of Andrew towards John :


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"Coincidentally" this documentary is also being claimed to be "most (critically) hated movie .. ever (http://www.ew.com/article/2013/06/13/hating-breitbart-documentary-critic-reviews)" because according to RottenTomatos reviews (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hating_breitbart/) it has a 0% score from film critics , but a 96% approval from regular users. That's a little weird.

If you'd like to see the full documentary yourself , you may be interested in these lucky numbers 460FD935E47A6189031D46E4F3A87BA53C1FD2B5 ...

This wasn't the only time Andrew had spoken out publicly against John Podesta, towards the end he got increasingly agitated and made some powerful enemies in John Podesta, Barack Obama, Planned Parenthood and Media Matters.

He claimed he had video that would harm Obama's re-election , and that both Media Matters and John Podesta were involved in covering up a child sex trafficking operation a full FIVE YEARS before the pizzagate story broke.

I'll try and dig up every related bit of information for these claims and archive them on the Steem blockchain.

Tweets from Andrew Breitbart
This twitter search query will bring back all tweets by Andrew between 2011-01-31 and 2011-02-04 - https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aandrewbreitbart%20since%3A2011-01-31%20until%3A2011-02-04&src=typd

I've embedded some of the most relevant tweets below


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/uYZmgh.jpg


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/VdqZJv.jpg


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/ScM8CE.jpg


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/SGhBvx.jpg


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/TFnjb0.jpg


Breitbart Dies - cause of death : "Natural Causes"
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2012/03/eyewitness-speaks-out-about-andrew.html
http://archive.is/bzBV5
On March 2, Crime File News reported Lasseter was walking his dog in Brentwood, Calif., when he saw Breitbart cross the street from the Brentwood Restaurant.

Breitbart was walking without apparent distress when he stepped on the curb “and fell like a sack of potatoes,” Lasseter said.

He noted that Breitbart’s skin color was bright red, which is not typically associated with heart attack victims.

Paul Huebl, who writes for Crime File News, reported April 22 that he interviewed Lasseter and added the detail that the witness was disturbed by Breitbart’s color.

As a former Army medic, Huebl knew that most heart attack victims turned blue.
Breitbart's Coroner then died of suspected Arsenic Poisoning


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://i.sli.mg/vOPBD3.jpg

RussiaToday reported - What a coincidence! Breitbart's coroner dead from arsenic poisoning? (https://www.rt.com/usa/coroner-arsenic-death-breitbart-456/)



Archived at http://archive.is/ZzaRh
Michael Cormier, 61, passed away on April 20, the Los Angeles Times reports this week. Although Cormier’s death is only being publicized now, the timing of actual passing actually came within hours of the release of the preliminary autopsy report of Breitbart.

Commenting to the Times on the latest news, Lt. Alan Hamilton of the Los Angeles Police Department says that investigators have not ruled out foul play in the death of Cormier. Authorities have yet to confirm how they believe arsenic entered his system — or if the coroner was deliberately poisoned — but Cormier passed away after being admitted to a hospital in Burbank, California last month after displaying symptoms typical with the illness.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/michael-cormier-dead-breitbart-arsenic_n_1468304.html
http://archive.is/2A9cP
Law enforcement sources told the Times that the presence of poison in Cormier does not necessarily point to a homicide as the substance may have entered his system by accident. However, the police haven't ruled out foul play, and Cormier's cause of death has been deferred pending further tests.
Alex Jones also covered this at the time :


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Witness to Breitbart's death disappears


https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://imgur.com/r4Z3S9O.jpg

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/now-a-witness-to-breitbarts-death-disappears/
http://archive.is/URxig
The apparent disappearance of Christopher Lasseter, who says he saw Breitbart drop to the sidewalk in front of a restaurant, adds to the mystery surrounding Breitbart’s March 1 death.
This was the testimony given by the only witness to his death before he disappeared:


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Closing thoughts
Andrew made a lot of powerful enemies in throughout his career, and David Brock / Media Matters has done an extremely thorough job of defaming his character and spreading misinformation.

I'm struggling to find unbiased reports about his final days because of this.

Please feel free to add any relevant links or info you have on this topic, and I'll continue to update this post as the facts are uncovered.

ausbitbank

7alon
11th December 2016, 14:15
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To clarify my views, I do not have issues with the Jewish people, nor do I blame them for the world's problems. This video just happens to mention that the woman has knowledge of some Jewish families may practice these acts.

I also do not believe you have to be Jewish to be part of this sickening stuff. :facepalm:

KiwiElf
11th December 2016, 15:03
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/ Argh, embed not working :(

In a very tiny nutshell:

many disasters, many upheavals, many betrayals, much chaos, much unpleasantness on so many levels - but with positive outcome in the end!

Lengthy & detailed "decoding" of the 2017 Economist cover here:

https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/decoding-economist-2017-cover/

And some YouTube Interpretations (all different):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQg2c_dmrk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0p3pfffgVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7OH6lpXoU

Hervé
11th December 2016, 15:27
[...]
I also do not believe you have to be Jewish to be part of this sickening stuff. :facepalm:

There might be some evidence to substantiate that belief:
Are Jews a Nation, Race or Religion? (http://henrymakow.com/jews_a_religion_not_a_nationra.html)
November 24, 2016

from June 12, 2009
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


None of the above.
Judaism is an occult secret society.
Jews and their Gentile acolytes are unwitting members of a satanic cult.

[...]
... like its proxy - Freemasonry - the defining element in Judaism is the occult "ideology." Race doesn't matter. Anybody can join the club: Marilyn Monroe, Sammy Davis, Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, Britney. As with American Express, "membership has its rewards."

And like Freemasonry, Judaism is characterized by the fact that the membership is ignorant of the true agenda. Only the "Illuminated" are in on the secret. The rest are manipulated and disposable.

As with Freemasonry, the hidden agenda is Pagan and Satanic. Judaism uses the Old Testament to draw people into the fold. But it is actually defined by the Talmud and Cabala which spurn the Old Testament.

Talmudic Judaism used "the Old Testament to cover its negation of every moral law of the Old Testament as it promotes practice of all the occult demonistic abominations excoriated by the Old Testament," writes Elizabeth Dilling. (http://www.gailallen.com/rel/writings/come-and-hear/c/dilling/index.html)

Dilling shows how Moses' injunctions against bestiality, sodomy, adultery, incest, necrophilia etc. - in the Old Testament - are overturned in the Talmud. (Chapter V)
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Accordingly, "Pizzagate" is either some "Damage Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control&p=1119712&viewfull=1#post1119712)" operation or a crack in a dam ready to crumble down.

The Freedom Train
11th December 2016, 18:03
Judaism is an occult secret society.
Jews and their Gentile acolytes are unwitting members of a satanic cult. [...]
... like its proxy - Freemasonry - the defining element in Judaism is the occult "ideology." Race doesn't matter. Anybody can join the club: Marilyn Monroe, Sammy Davis, Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, Britney. As with American Express, "membership has its rewards."

And like Freemasonry, Judaism is characterized by the fact that the membership is ignorant of the true agenda. Only the "Illuminated" are in on the secret. The rest are manipulated and disposable.


I have heard so much about the vatican being directly implicated in the elite pedophile/satan worshipping phenomenon. And when I looked up the Cain and Abel story, I was shocked to read that it is basically describing the beginnings of blood sacrifice.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15915-Very-Disturbing-Jay-Weidner-Sacred-Mysteries-video--removed-&p=1117303#post1117303

"1 Adam knew his wife Eve intimately, and she conceived and bore Cain. She said, "I have had a male child with the Lord's help."
2 Then she also gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel became a shepherd of a flock, but Cain cultivated the land.
3 In the course of time Cain presented some of the land's produce as an offering to the Lord.
4 And Abel also presented [an offering] – some of the firstborn of his flock and their fat portions. The Lord had regard for Abel and his offering,
5 but He did not have regard for Cain and his offering. Cain was furious, and he was downcast.
6 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why are you downcast?
7 If you do right, won't you be accepted? But if you do not do right, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must master it."
8 Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
— Genesis 4:1–8 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)"

So, let me get this straight. God is only happy with the firstborn sacrfices of Abel's flock - making Cain feel rejected, wanting approval from the big daddy. So God gives Cain a pep talk, tells him to do right to feel accepted (apparently sacrificing firstborns) to avoid the "sin" crouching at his door and gunning for him, so Cain then goes out and kills his brother, who is a firstborn of Adam and Eve. And then of course he feels horribly afterwards....

"According to Genesis 4:1–16, Cain treacherously murdered his brother Abel, lied about the murder to God, and as a result was cursed and marked for life.[18] With the earth left cursed to drink Abel's blood, Cain was no longer able to farm the land.[19] Exegesis of the Hebrew narrative has Cain punished as a "fugitive and wanderer".[20] Exegesis of the Septuagint's narrative, "groaning and shaking upon the earth" has Cain suffering from body tremors.[21] Interpretations extend Cain's curse to his descendants, where they all died in the Great Deluge as retribution for the loss of Abel's potential offspring.[22] Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain. This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible.[23]"

So, yeah. This is, to me, so obviously about the manipulation of human minds and emotions via mind control and psychotronics to commit atrocious acts, including blood sacrifice and murder, which are then turned against the mind controlled perpetrators and used as emotional blackmail so that they devolve into depravity and self loathing...."

I had never read the Bible before. So it looks like there are multiple organized religions and spiritual paths that are in actuality a form of satanic worship.

alexius
11th December 2016, 19:56
I spend alot of time cruising around in the PA forum. Not much of a writer though, so I do not make much of an impression. So here I am, and not. There seem to be something hidden deeper in all of this..

The leaks lead us to what is right there in plain sight. It's like we are still just looking to what is there for all of us to see.. And missing out on what is not. It appears that greater pieces of the puzzle have been found by people willing to show us. Sadly they are dropping dead.

Hervé
11th December 2016, 20:31
Graphic shows how MSM's fake news strategy was designed to short-circuit Pizzagate (http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/12/google-graphic-proves-how-the-msm-fake-news-strategy-was-implemented-to-short-circuit-pizzagate-scandal/)

The Millenium Report (http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/12/google-graphic-proves-how-the-msm-fake-news-strategy-was-implemented-to-short-circuit-pizzagate-scandal/) Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:34 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s18/363235/large/Screen_Shot_2016_12_04_at_5_39.png (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/363235/full/Screen_Shot_2016_12_04_at_5_39.png)


The Google graphic posted above is worth a million words...that essentially constitutes a scathing indictment of the Mainstream Media (MSM).

For those who are not good at reading graphs, may we spell it out for you?

The top RED line shows that the 'Fake News' meme was quite purposefully disseminated throughout the World Wide Web just 2 or 3 days before the PIZZAGATE scandal broke wide open. The bottom BLUE line shows the trending of PIZZAGATE on Google just after 'Fake News' was made to go viral (see how the RED line clearly dominates the BLUE line) In other words the new meme was deliberately planted in stories everywhere across the Internet. Even Obama went to Europe to talk about the "spread of fake news online" when he was in Germany in mid November. (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/world/europe/obama-angela-merkel-donald-trump.html)

See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94731-Fake-News-and-the-War-on-Freedom-and-Truth&p=1119795#post1119795) (<---)

Bill Ryan
11th December 2016, 21:00
I have heard so much about the vatican being directly implicated in the elite pedophile/satan worshipping phenomenon.

Yes.

Here's Illuminati whistleblower Svali (a pseudonym, of course), recounting to Greg Szymanski, on live radio, her experience as a young girl, forced to witness the blood sacrifice of a younger child in the catacombs of the Vatican.


http://projectavalon.net/svali.mp3

It's extremely emotional, and indisputably, utterly real. Svali herself can barely tell the story. It's pretty hard to listen to. I do very strongly feel, though, that every human being should hear this through, even if just one time. (And once is all that's needed.)

Omni
11th December 2016, 21:36
The more I searched for who was a top the entire conspiracy, it more and more appears to me that a Vatican source is atop the shadow government. For example it is rumored Papal Knights of Malta members were behind the founding of both the CIA and Monsanto.

Hervé
12th December 2016, 01:49
The more I searched for who was a top the entire conspiracy, it more and more appears to me that a Vatican source is atop the shadow government. For example it is rumored Papal Knights of Malta members were behind the founding of both the CIA and Monsanto.
I don't know if among the others present there were knights of Malta but, for sure, there were 4 skull & Bones members:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9032&d=1311477169



The followings are excerpted from Sue Arrigo's case 20 (http://pauljackson.us/sue_arrigo/):

Skull and Bones Founded the CIA


9032

There are only 15 new members of the Skull and Bones Death Worship Cult initiated each year; 150 every 10 years, 300 in the age range of 45 to 65. Since the population of the US is about 300 million, there is a 1 in a million or 0.000,0001 probability of a Skull and Bones man in that picture. However, in statistics we give the first such case the benefit of the doubt of coincidence and call it the index case. The probability that there was not a conspiracy involving Skull and Bones founding the CIA is the probability that the next three Skull and Bonesmen in the room were there by chance alone. That probability is 1 in a million cubed or 0.000,000,000,000,000,001. In short, this photo proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Skull and Bones was behind the founding of the CIA.


Both Bushes, Clinton, and Kerry are members of Skull and Bones. The chance of all 4 of them being the nominees for President without a conspiracy to accomplish it is 0.000,000,000,000,000,001 i.e. less than 1 in a quadrillion. Watergate was the tip of the iceberg in the CIA’s efforts to rig US elections. We had two men with integrity, without ties to financial scandals, running for election, Ralph Nader, and Ron Paul. Neither could get the nomination because they did not have the blessing of the Rockefellers , Bushes and their CIA. The CIA was set up to protect their illegal business operations and hide them from the public.

Hervé
12th December 2016, 12:17
I moved 9 posts from this thread to this new thread: Offs off the Pizzagate thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94940-Offs-off-the-Pizzagate-thread)

Omni
12th December 2016, 13:38
Google Graphic Shows The MSM ‘Fake News’
Strategy was Used To Short-Circuit PIZZAGATE Scandal
http://www.omnisense.org/2016/12/google-graphic-shows-how-msm-fake-news-strategy-was-implemented-to-short-circuit-pizzagate-scandal.html

A Common Sense Approach to Understanding PIZZAGATE
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/12/a-common-sense-approach-to-understanding-pizzagate-and-fake-news/

Much thanks to TargeT and Herve (IIRC) for some of the links. Project Avalon is linked / mentioned in both articles.

Jantje
12th December 2016, 16:41
Ole Dammegard and Carine Hutsebaut talk with Alfred Webre about pizza gate, networks and much more. some great points are being made.
I think this should be added to this thread.

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7alon
13th December 2016, 03:23
I have heard so much about the vatican being directly implicated in the elite pedophile/satan worshipping phenomenon.

Yes.

Here's Illuminati whistleblower Svali (a pseudonym, of course), recounting to Greg Szymanski, on live radio, her experience as a young girl, forced to witness the blood sacrifice of a younger child in the catacombs of the Vatican.


http://projectavalon.net/svali.mp3

It's extremely emotional, and indisputably, utterly real. Svali herself can barely tell the story. It's pretty hard to listen to. I do very strongly feel, though, that every human being should hear this through, even if just one time. (And once is all that's needed.)

I find the part about being only able to mind control people within the group very interesting. She claims that unless they are raised and trained within the group they would go psychotic and be useless as a puppet. However, there are passive techniques they use via the media to brainwash people?

lucidity
13th December 2016, 11:14
Hey folks, I was wondering if anybody knew of someone who can interpret this

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/economist-trump-new-world-order-700x350.jpg

An apparent anonymous source from the FBI said to pay attention to the cards, and apparently it is too disturbing for this other user's friend to talk about

https://postimg.org/image/xov75wes7/





I just wanted to make the point that there _is_ a card entitled "pizza for a secret meeting"
which might conceivably be a veiled reference to pizzagate-esque activities.

See here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INWO-Assassins-Pizza-for-the-Secret-Meeting-Illuminati-New-World-Order-Pizzagate-/302164872540?hash=item465a6e0d5c:g:aVgAAOSw6DtYR5pU

lucidity
13th December 2016, 11:19
I want to point out that there is now _actually_ a book on this whole sordid pizzagate issue
and the fact that it's been covered up. See here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pizzagate-Biggest-Media-American-Hostory-ebook/dp/B01MQUGBW4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481627334&sr=8-1&keywords=pizzagate

The author is Joe Kelly. The cost of this 'e-book' is only £3.24.
Brilliant. Hats off to Joe Kelly for:
(a) getting the word out and into print
(b) attempting to inform the masses
(c) getting this done so quickly, in time for Xmas.

Looking for handy and interesting xmas gifts ?
Why not buy this e-book for friends and relatives ?
Get the truth out... defeat the cabal... and keep your friends
and relatives entertained at the same time.... priceless!

Playdo of Ataraxas
14th December 2016, 03:17
In my reading of the thread I did not see this interview with David Seaman on The Higherside Chats show posted. Very interesting interview, worth a listen and addition to the thread.

http://thehighersidechats.com/david-seaman-pizzagate-podesta-pedophile-ring/

The Freedom Train
14th December 2016, 07:20
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-is-invited-to-dine-at-pizzeria-at-center-of-fake-news-barrage/ar-AAlunpO?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Curiouser and curiouser.

ponda
14th December 2016, 12:44
Posting this here as well as Sam's 'offs' thread

Here's a video/podcast that talks about child trafficking in general. Very interesting how prevalent it is and how much it is kept out of the news etc


Published on Dec 13, 2016

International child sex trafficking rings are real and they reach to the highest levels of government, business and entertainment.

Warning there are some possibly upsetting images that were painted by one of the victims from about the 24 minute mark

The Reality of Child Trafficking Rings


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQVRLrCbZs&t=2s

norman
14th December 2016, 16:17
I've been thinking about the current mix of Pizzagate and the CIA ( or part of it ) coming up with a phony but dangerous threat to use institutional clauses to block Trump from becoming President. The claim that they have evidence that Russia has meddled with the election process and so they have a legitimate reason to stop the process and select a different person for the job.

The pedophile network is part of a control system to keep system people in line. In the current situation, there must be a LOT of insiders, no matter how corrupted, who have been wanting to bail out and turn whistleblower. The people at the top must be constantly concerned about this risk that their entire structure could fall apart. They know better than any of us that they are only something like 2 or 3 people away from betrayal and a terrifying fate. They depend on ritualistic commitment and 'all-in' determination in their closest aids and cohorts. They probably have that, no matter what happens, but the people further away from them are more likely to consider turning.

As I see youtube clips of people popping up from agencies or media hacks etc coming out with these ominous statements about Russia backing Trump or accusing real news sources of being fake news sources, I'm seeing trapped people being whip slapped by the Peedo exposure threat management network. The more we chase down peedos, the more we will see these people pop up as drafted dummies saying these surreal things in obeyance of their corruption handlers.

It's becoming like a satirical scene from a 'Spitting Image' show, in my mind. I can almost see grotesque puppets standing behind them cracking whips and waving torture implements as they say these things with their nearly terrified faces on the brink of cracking and revealing their torment.

It's a closed loop of fear. I can even imagine the top people are applying exposure of the pedophilia, in the lower ranks, are leverage to gain greater emergency compliance from them. So far, it's working, but it's a razor's edge risk that the whole thing will implode. They surely know this and have escape or Plan B front and center of their minds right now.

muxfolder
15th December 2016, 06:41
Even the pope is now worried about those nasty fake news. I'm sure we all know why.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/12/07/pope-francis-compares-media-who-spread-fake-news-to-people-who-are-excited-by-feces/?utm_term=.e84ddedfa6e0

Cara
16th December 2016, 03:51
For those who do not mind a long read, Jasun Horsely of Auticulture.com has posted four articles on Pizzagate and paedophilia.

His commentary is written from cultural analysis viewpoint and he touches on scapegoating, social control, pedophilia vs ritual abuse, abuse culture, etc. It is a detailed and comprehensive inquiry.

I don't agree with everything he says, but he asks and attempts to answer difficult questions. Some of his views contain his particular biases, for example against Christians - you may want to filter these as you read so as not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".

Here are the articles:
Vicious Circles & Angry Squares: Pedophilia, Scapegoating, Taboo, & Social Control (Part One) (https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/vicious-circles-angry-squares-pedophilia-scapegoating-taboo-social-control-part-one/)

Vicious Circles & Angry Squares: Pedophilia, Scapegoating, Taboo, & Social Control (Part Two) (https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/vicious-circles-angry-squares-pedophilia-scapegoating-taboo-social-control-part-two/)

David Brock, Invasion 4Chan, the Alt-Right, & Pizzagate (https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/david-brock-invasion-4chan-the-alt-right-pizzagate/)

Vicious Circles & Angry Squares, Part Three: Abuse Culture
(https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/12/10/vicious-circles-angry-squares-part-three-abuse-culture/)

Curious77
16th December 2016, 04:37
As though we don't know the patterns with MSM buing scandals --

Was watching a video about Belgium situation today -- and it's a classic.

The Dutroux Scandal - BBC's Olenka Frenkiel investigates. Part 1/3.
3 easy parts of about 15 minutes each
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKc6-TqBfk4

Don't trust the closed caption, btw, you really need to hear the voices, as well.
But the closed caption is silent on a number of scenes, constantly garbles what
is being said, especially names.
But I truly recommend it because real people are so fascinating to see and listen to,
especially when they are as courageous as these parents and Regina Louf, who is a
survivor of abuse, and the Belgians when they first came out into the streets at
300,000 strong. Doesn't mention it in the video, but in my readings, evidently Belgian
firemen actually turned their hoses on the Capital Building. Unfortunately, the Belgians
didn't keep going.

Two young girls were rescued from a cage in a basement area hidden behind a wall of
Dutroux's house. The garden is dug up and bodies of two or three young girls are found.
Dutroux had a record of kidnapping and rape. And he was actually
under surveillance by police at this time because they had been tipped off that he planned
to make money by kidnapping girls. The girls tell of being repeatedly raped.
The nation is in mourning for these children, in shock and alarmed.

Dutroux's white van is followed and they are led to one associate and a few more girls rescued.
It is an investigator named Connaught who is responsible for the arrest of Dutroux and the
rescues and as I recall he actually arrests about 10 people.
But investigations of Dutroux, Nihoul are delayed and therefore their trials.

Meanwhile, at the arrest of Nihoul, a young woman named Regina Louf (and a few others)
come forward to say that they had been sexually abused by these same people.
An investigation Team is formed to investigate. Their work/interviews is constantly watched
and supervised by justice department individuals and superiors. They find that what Regina
is telling them -- including about the murder of a young girl which she witnessed -- seems to
be true. She is able to identify a house for them and they find that the girl she identifies fits
the description of a girl gone missing at that time.

Suddenly, everything begins to reverse itself. The Investigator who was responsible for the
arrest of Dutroux is taken off of the case. A bombshell. And then Connaught is replaced by
someone without any experience

About that time, news of Regina Louf and the other witnesses is released.

And Belgians come out into the streets.

Now the recognizable pattern begins -- a Commission is set up. It is said that
the Establishment fears a revolution, insurrection. The Commission begins to
investigate and quickly comes to see the unbelievable incompetence by the police
who were watching Dutroux. They begin to wonder whether this is simply incompetence
or whether Dutroux was being protected. Belgians citizens suspect a network in play.
At this point, cooperation with the investigation is stopped.

First the police team is attacked with suggestions that they manipulated Regina Louf's
testimony. Though she had drawn pictures of the inside of the house which had very
complicated hallway connections and also described wallpaper in the home, various
areas and especially some large doors which she drew, down to the molding on the doors.
And that they made mistakes, though they investigation and interviews was being supervised
at all times.

Then the Team's superiors were attacked for planting false evidence. They underwent two
inquiries of their conduct of the investigation and were cleared of any wrongdoing. They were
attacked again with new suggestions of wrong-doing.

Then the press became involved -- not to question what had been going on, but to attack
Regina Louf's testimony. She was labeled a liar, creating fantasies -- pornographic fantasies,
no less. "Sinister" and "Crazy."

All of this began to confuse the public who no longer knew what to believe.
The attacks on the investigators and witnesses continued on.
After five months in prison, Nihoul was released. Dutroux was never brought to trial.

Other witnesses tried to quietly come forward with information -- at least three were murdered.
In the end about 25 questionable murders occurred.

Regina Louf continued to survive -- suggesting that it was because she had told everything to the
police, judges, nation. And because "I am crazy" now so why would they kill me?
She is married 13 years, has four children of her own and runs her own business.

And that's how it goes.

There is no way that crime exists anywhere unless it is with the protection of Elites who
control government. In all of these cases, we see that higher ups are connected. That
generally the schemes were run (according to Regina Louf) to blackmail people in government.
End purpose being money. These cases in the UK, involve even the Royal family's entanglements
with Jimmy Saville.

My greatest puzzlement is how the people of Belgium understood so well what was happening in
their nation to children and yet turned around and bought the line offered by Elites that nothing
was happening.

At the time of the report by this journalist for the BBC .... 2000 children were kidnapped that year.

WHY do we allow these patterns to continue on?

Curious77
16th December 2016, 04:43
Yes, noted especially in the case in Belgium that the "church" was mentioned.

Imagine how insane it is for a Pope of a church involved with pedophile activities for 2,000 years
would come out to suggest that an investigation should be stopped because it was "excrement."
The excrement resides in the Vatican and its own conduct --
and with our MSM.

Curious77
16th December 2016, 05:14
Rather than watching MSM, we should be pulling on the whole filthy cable TV system.

Also remember that Verizon and Comcast are flooding the internet with violent pornography, including violent pornography -- and making $50 billion and more each at it every year.

Some males in US are becoming seriously addicted to this stuff to detriment of work and family.

They're also doing all they can to move lighter porn into movies -- and onto movie channels where you can watch jackhammer sex with all the emotion and thrill of "NYC drill we must." For those who are desperate and without imagination of memories to rely on, I guess it is some kind of a sick thrill. And, all, also while generally increasing violence and torture on every channel.

Curious77
16th December 2016, 05:28
MKULTRA and Pizzagate --
Since CIA was running drugs/guns out of Mena, obviously the Clintons were involved with them at that time. I've wondered if it happened much earlier ... Yale? Or even before? Both HRC and Bill seem to have family connections to Mafia which could connect them to CIA at earlier ages.

CIA/fascists are obviously the most obsessed with Russia -- and HRC seems to willing and able to carry forth on that obsession.

The pedophilia rings -- and also the kids held captive by MKULTRA -- through mind control were programmed as homosexual prostitutes, as drug runners and for spying/espionage. This is a way to blackmail other higher ups in order to gain their cooperation.

onawah
17th December 2016, 21:02
William Tompkins in the second part of the interview with Kerry Cassidy (see: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94992-Project-Camelot-interviews-William-Tompkins-Selected-By-Extraterrestrials-Part-1&p=1121157#post1121157 )
...comments briefly on the Draconian blood rituals and murders, pedophilia etc widespread on the planet, and says that his associate Robert Wood intends to blow the lid off the secrets surrounding the subject.
Tompkins says it is even worse than we know and is afraid it will scare off too many people just awakening and make them think all conspiracy theory is lies.
I hope we will be hearing more from them both soon.
2017 is heating up already...

7alon
18th December 2016, 03:44
lol people being paid to shill forgot to give bots names, guy screen capped before they deleted the accounts, which they did. (thanks for fix Paul)

http://thepythoniccow.us/pizzagatetweets.jpg

onawah
20th December 2016, 18:48
Julian Assange Isn’t Done With Hillary, Reveals Hidden Human Trafficking Network
The Millennium Report
November 17, 2016
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/julian-assange-isnt-done-with-hillary-reveals-hidden-human-trafficking-network/

Some of this is old info we've seen, but I had not seen anything before about hidden information in the Podesta emails. This looks very significant, if true.

[QUOTE]by Elliot Bougis
The Conservative Daily Post

Just when you thought it was safe to go back on the Internet…

I have been reporting for weeks now about the D.C.-based “pizza pedophilia” ring that is being exposed based on thousands of “Podesta emails” released by Wikileaks in the past month or two.

As of last week, the case became even more explosive.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw_U38-UoAABn3i.jpg:small
Now, don’t get nervous because it looks like computer mumbo-jumbo. You only need to remember two things.

1 – Every picture file is actually a code/pattern of numbers that our computers “translate” into images on the screen.

2 – Some “extra” information has been discovered in at least one picture code/pattern from a Wikileaks email.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Cw_U38-UoAABn3i-1024x576.jpg

I reported weeks ago about this “pedo ring” something called “photo steganography,” which is just the fancy term for the two points I explained just now.

The image (.jpg) of the two girls eating pizza was discovered as an attachment in the Podesta emails by Wikileaks. Data can be hidden in a .jpg file. In that image, a zipped directory (PK) was hidden inside. That doesn’t happen by accident. The directory likely contains illegal imagery and/or discussion. It is highly suggestive of illegal activity connected to child pornography, child exploitation, and child abuse.

Some have objected that the pizza.jpg file size is simply too small to contain any useful data (like an image, a link, a message, etc.), but the point is this: all the file would have to “smuggle” is a short password to open a secret website or .zip file. The hidden data could literally just be a few bits of information but it could open up thousands of gigabytes of data in the right website or compressed file. That’s how the users would access the dirty pictures, videos, messages, etc.

So, from a technical angle, this method is very possible, and it makes sense of why the Podesta emails include so many strange photo attachments. Are all those attachments little “Trojan ponies” for sharing images, videos, passwords, payment resources, etc.?

WATCH (Language/NSFW Warning):
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“Why do we even have an FBI? Is the FBI just covering for these people?”

Let me be honest:

I have researched corruption cases like this for many years, whether in current events or from historical records. So, I believe I have a somewhat thick skin when it comes to facing human sinfulness and evil like this.

Last Friday night, however, I won’t lie: I totally lost it.

All of a sudden, too many lightbulbs went off at once, too many connections hit me at once, too many implications dawned on me at once–and I just went into a kind of panic attack about how massive this whole cartel is, how well protected it is, and how truly destructive it is in real children’s lives.

If you want to get an idea of what set me off, let me show you three images.

BUT I WARN YOU: When you understand the context, these images are EXTREMELY DISTURBING.

First, here is a photo of Tony Podesta’s favorite work of art in his home:

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/heather-tony-podesta-arch-of-hysteria-art-getty.png

Tony Podesta is a big fan of “The Arch of Hysteria”

Next, here is an ad from Ping Pong Pizza, a restaurant in D.C. that has numerous, very disturbing connections to pedophilia and D.C. elites like the Podestas.

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/heavt-breathing-besta-pizza-body-bent-back.png

Another “arch of hysteria”?

Next we come to a police photo from the Jeffrey Dahmer case.

VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED:

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/dahmer-victims-poses-polaroids-bent-head.jpg

I wonder if Tony Podesta would also like this “arch of hysteria”…

Finally, here is the logo for Comet Pizza, another D.C. restaurant with deep connections to Ping Pong Pizza and the Podestas.

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/baphomet-comet-pizza-sign-moon.jpg

Can you see now why I “lost my [bleep]” last Friday?

Worse, in terms of how protected this satanic ring of perverts is, I recently reported that even the DOJ is compromised.

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/FireShot-Pro-Screen-Capture-351-Cw_HjkXUcAAYodA_jpg-1200%C3%97862-pbs_twimg_com_media_Cw_HjkXUcAAYodA_j.jpg

A man named Arun Rao has shown a disturbing interest in some sexually “creepy” images and expressions that are connected to the Podestas and this pedo ring. The problem is that Rao is an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the DOJ.

Specifically, Rao is Supervisor of the Southern (“Greenbelt”) Division office for the DOJ’s District of Maryland in Chevy Chase, Maryland. This means that Rao’s district is virtually on top of the area in D.C. where Besta Pizza operates. In addition, Besta Pizza and two other associated properties are directly over abandoned underground tunnels, many of which could easily connect to Chevy Chase.

On top of his social and geographical proximity to Alefantis, Rao’s DOJ division handles cases that seem tailor-made for busting—or covering up—the dark circles that sex traffickers hide in: federal racketeering, conspiracy, national and international fraud and corruption, immigration violations, counterfeiting, and—wait for it—child pornography.

In closing I will leave you with three “infographics.”

They are very complicated and “dense” so I don’t expect everyone to examine them.

However, even if you don’t look into the details yourself, I want you to be aware of how vast this whole network of evil is, and, therefore, of how many hands and prayers we need on deck to expose it and bring it down.

(NOTE: You don’t have to download these images to view them. You can just right-click open them in a separate internet browser tab, and click “+” to zoom in.)
https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBg7aHR0cHM6Ly9zdGF0aWMuY29nZ2xlLml0L2RpYWdyYW0vV0NVak5Rbmw4TGdDU1R4NS90aHVtYm5haWwUhBYU wgscFIQGFJQDAAAWABIA&s=eaf3s4eQe2yKVcqdhnV3IosCi7vTY9lFI1qx5fquY3I

First, a diagram of “key players” in the pizza restaurant side of the pedo ring. You can see the diagram for yourself here.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/coggle-pizza-pedo-podesta-diagram-cropped.jpg

Second, a much larger diagram of how this pizza-pedo ring connects to international kidnapping (esp. the Madeleine McCann case) and other DNC allies like “spirit cooker” Marina Abramovic.
continued

onawah
20th December 2016, 18:49
continued from post #115 above

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/WDRsVY-1024x507.jpg


Finally, a truly massive diagram of connections that implicate nations and leaders around the world, and put the sex trafficking cartel in the context of a global network of drug dealers, slave traders, murderers, and media elites.

https://conservativedailypost-guvbvzsunddro8yrw.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/epstein-pedo-ring-connections-mind-map-4chan.jpg

This is an ongoing investigation so stay tuned for more.
___
https://conservativedailypost.com/julian-assange-isnt-done-with-hillary-reveals-hidden-human-trafficking-network/?utm_source=Email&utm_campaign=16_November&utm_medium=Aweber[/QUOTE]

Curious77
21st December 2016, 02:33
Perhaps that thread can be added to the opening post?

Curious77
21st December 2016, 02:40
Re the Olson twins and "Pizza" song which was shown by Joe and Jan ---
It has always made me extremely uneasy as we have watched, not only adult language being put into the mouths of youths since early days of sit-coms, but the increasing sexualizing of that language over the last perhaps two decades.

I'm not at all familiar with the Olson twins show, but I'm wondering if anyone has looked into who was writing scripts for these shows or for the song?

Also wondering if the Olson twins (like others in Hollywood/mainly males, it seems) have discussed this subject/ pedophilia in Hollywood, or suggested in anyway that they themselves were threatened?

ALSO WANT TO ADD ... since the young girl taped to the table was shown on the video which Jan and Joe showed --
According to Voat/Pizzagate investigator -- the young girl is Cardis James which is indicated in a hashtag# on the photo.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504555 and he provides much more info.

And, this thread which I believe is the one I was reading.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1448760

At any rate, from reading there earlier today, Cardis James is the daughter of Cory Woolman and Scott Cummings (Seen in another photo holding Cardis and a string of beads joining them together.)
Evidently, Cory worked for Alefantis at some point -- and so did Scott who worked on the Comet Pizza building -- restoring it -- whatever?
Still, there are concerns from some that she may not be safe. In one photo she is shown with very dark circles under her eyes, seemingly sleep deprived. In another, she seems to be showing signs of having been conditioned. The family now seems to live in Oregon where Cummings makes children's coffins.

onawah
21st December 2016, 04:51
I'm bumping this :bump:
Did anyone else see the news about encrypted information in the Podesta emails back in November?
(See my posts http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94769-Pizzagate-pedophilia-in-American-elite--with-links-to-related-threads-&p=1121814&viewfull=1#post1121814
...and the one following.
I missed it, but it appears to be very important, and I don't remember seeing it posted on Avalon before.

7alon
28th December 2016, 08:00
Warning, detailed descriptions of trafficking experiences, murder, etc.

MdELZJk4YgM

Bill Ryan
28th December 2016, 12:07
.
This may also be well worth watching. It features a couple of Alex Jones videos which (apparently) have now been taken down.

This is the YouTube text, which may not be too far from the truth:
Alex Jones has taken all the blame for the #pizzagate (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%23pizzagate) shooter hoax. The MSM and the elite are trying to censor alt news sources and will go to extreme lengths to do so. Alex has likely been threatened. The interview with Sharif Salmi seems almost like a threat to Alex Jones to back off... Joe Biggs has also quit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFA9wtHLx0w

Eram
28th December 2016, 14:10
.
This may also be well worth watching. It features a couple of Alex Jones videos which (apparently) have now been taken down.

This is the YouTube text, which may not be too far from the truth:
Alex Jones has taken all the blame for the #pizzagate (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%23pizzagate) shooter hoax. The MSM and the elite are trying to censor alt news sources and will go to extreme lengths to do so. Alex has likely been threatened. The interview with Sharif Salmi seems almost like a threat to Alex Jones to back off... Joe Biggs has also quit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFA9wtHLx0w

I saw that youtube a couple of days ago and it feels all wrong to me indeed.

It's so weird to see the so called witness on that show lecturing AJ on how he should conduct his business and going on and on about it. Why would a witness go so far with making this point?
AJ meanwhile sort of on the defensive and explaining several times that all he did was passing news which was already there, downplaying infowars role in the whole case.

It felt surreal and sort of like there was indeed a lot more going on behind the scene.
Threats or something like that.

One interesting point was when the witnessed called for infowars to refocus their efforts on the possible corruptness of politicians instead of some dreamed up conspiracy in child porn/trafficking/abuse etc.
If there are indeed threats being made toward infowars (which I think to be the case), then this particular remark feels out of context... so, .. what can we (perhaps) deduct from that?

Bill Ryan
28th December 2016, 14:17
It felt surreal and sort of like there was indeed a lot more going on behind the scene.
Threats or something like that.
...
what can we (perhaps) deduct from that?

Yes, it was kind of surreal. I really don't think Alex would succumb to a threat. That just brings out the defiant raging bull in him.

But: (my pure wild speculation only)

There just might have been a deal behind the scenes. Something like "Look, change the emphasis here, because listen up: you've not got it quite right — and if you do that, which will help some innocent people, we'll NOT give you a hard time about X..." [ — and/or — ] "... we'll give you some inside info about Y."

norman
28th December 2016, 14:40
It's quite a considerable coincidence that the gun man and the City councilor were in Comet Pizza at the same time. What's the chances of that ?

Ewan
28th December 2016, 18:03
It felt surreal and sort of like there was indeed a lot more going on behind the scene.
Threats or something like that.
...
what can we (perhaps) deduct from that?

Yes, it was kind of surreal. I really don't think Alex would succumb to a threat. That just brings out the defiant raging bull in him.

But: (my pure wild speculation only)

There just might have been a deal behind the scenes. Something like "Look, change the emphasis here, because listen up: you've not got it quite right — and if you do that, which will help some innocent people, we'll NOT give you a hard time about X..." [ — and/or — ] "... we'll give you some inside info about Y."

Well, as you said that is just pure speculation, but the whole thing looked strained and contrived to me. It is not that I left the video with a feeling of right or wrong, I didn't know what to think.

The only thing I remain firmly convinced about is the reality of paedophilia has an increasing risk of occurence with the gathering of power in a corrupted world.

onawah
28th December 2016, 19:04
I've been wondering why Jones has been so silent on this subject which had him in near hysterical fits not so long ago.
He did say he was not equipped to deal with it because it made him feel so dirty, but this much silence is uncharacteristic of him.

DNA
28th December 2016, 22:00
It felt surreal and sort of like there was indeed a lot more going on behind the scene.
Threats or something like that.
...
what can we (perhaps) deduct from that?

Yes, it was kind of surreal. I really don't think Alex would succumb to a threat. That just brings out the defiant raging bull in him.

But: (my pure wild speculation only)

There just might have been a deal behind the scenes. Something like "Look, change the emphasis here, because listen up: you've not got it quite right — and if you do that, which will help some innocent people, we'll NOT give you a hard time about X..." [ — and/or — ] "... we'll give you some inside info about Y."



I think what Bill is saying here makes sense, but I don't think this is what happened.
I think bottom line Alex either knows or has learned that the American people just don't want to believe this is true.
I think this is one of those deals where, he may lose more than he gains with this topic dominating the airwaves of his show.
There are folks who simply refuse to accept this information because of how painful the cognitive dissonance is in personally accepting this is real.
There are folks on this forum who refuse to accept this topic as real.
And for those who are accepting it as real, some of us can only handle this topic in small doses due to the paradigm challenging nature of where this topic goes.
Which at the end of the day, you have to see some kind of spirit cooking, Bohemian Grove, Satanic/Saturnic child sacrifice thing going on.
The MKULTRA folks who survive to tell their story state that there are dark rituals going on all around them, and that they witness child sacrifice type stuff going on around them.


In short I think Alex just understands that probably 90% or more of his followers can't handle this kind of truth.
And I for one can understand, it's better to do what you can to spread the truth than to lose everyone due to folks tuning out and the show suffers through loss of viewership.


I've been wondering why Jones has been so silent on this subject which had him in near hysterical fits not so long ago.
He did say he was not equipped to deal with it because it made him feel so dirty, but this much silence is uncharacteristic of him.



And if he felt he wasn't equipped to handle this, just think how ill equipped his fan base would be to handle this.

onawah
28th December 2016, 23:04
Apparently somehow the thought of Reptilians engaging in blood rituals seems like it may be easier for us to stomach than the thought of humans doing it, which is kind of peculiar and I've wondered about that.
Of course, Alex Jones hasn't gone into the Reptilian agenda as far as I am aware, but we certainly have here on Avalon.
It seems perhaps it hits us a lot closer to home when it's humans engaging in such crimes, but perhaps that's because those who do are no longer quite human, or have gone one step too far toward losing their souls to the Reptilians.
And perhaps that is even scarier for us to contemplate.
Though I don't doubt that if we knew all the grisly details, it might shock and galvanize us into a more proactive response.
Yet if that is what is coming, and in a way, we have to pray that it is, who will be the ones willing to deliver the news?
One person who has expressed the desire is William Tompkins friend, Robert Wood.
I hope he has the courage to follow through, and I imagine that Kerry Cassidy would be the one who would help him to do it.

Kerry Cassidy
28th December 2016, 23:59
Hi Natalie and all,

I am in touch with William Tompkins and have invited him to appear on my weekly show on Project Camelot TV. Feel free to subscribe to the channel to be notified about upcoming shows as they are scheduled: http://youtube.com/jagbodhi/

And see my latest update here:
SEASONS GREETINGS FROM KERRY CASSIDY, PROJECT CAMELOT
http://projectcamelotportal.com/2016/12/28/seasons-greetings/
(http://projectcamelotportal.com/2016/12/28/seasons-greetings/)
Reposted here for convenience.

Have a multi-dimensional New Year!

Kerry

SEASONS GREETINGS FROM KERRY CASSIDY, PROJECT CAMELOT
December 28, 2016

I am in the UK and enjoying the holidays. I have managed to organize two interviews while I am here. One with the Barrister, Michael Shrimpton who was arrested for warning the UK government about a nuke threat (which turned out to be correct according to U.S. intelligence) at the Olympics back in 2012. He is out of prison, where he served six months and talking. With a substantial background in the intelligence game he has written a fascinating book called SPYHUNTER. This interview is now complete and being edited. To be released shortly!

Spyhunter-The-Secret-History-of-German-Intelligence

I will be doing an in-person interview with Simon Parkes while here as well. This gives me a unique opportunity to talk with Simon in a more relaxed atmosphere where we can delve into his latest intel on what’s really going on behind the scenes in government and world affairs.

I am also in talks with William Tompkins to plan to have him as a regular guest on my show. Stay tuned for more on this as the days progress.

Thank you for your support of Project Camelot throughout the year. Me and my team, Igor (webmaster) and Neil (designer, cameraman, co-editor) appreciate your continued support.

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onawah
29th December 2016, 00:31
Thanks Kerry!
I had also posted your newsletter here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95171-Kerry-Cassidy-s-latest-newsletter-re-Project-Camelot&p=1123282#post1123282
and hopefully we will continue to post them as they come on that thread, so we will have an official place for catching up with your news for those who don't get it via email, etc.
I watched your latest interview with William Tompkins, and especially noted what he said about his friend Robert Wood's desire to get out more information about child trafficking, blood rituals, etc.
Like Alex Jones and others, Tompkins expressed reluctance to go there; his thinking was that it would cause more disbelief and therefore would not further the cause of stopping the abuse, though it seemed like he would support any attempt that Wood would make.
I don't think we will know what the effects will be until more information gets out there.
My feeling is that some will go into shock and disbelief and close down even more, but some will be galvanized to take more action, find ways to expose more of the truth.
It's been amazing to me how little the issue has been discussed since the pizzagate scandal fizzled out.
No doubt the fact that Wikileaks seems to have closed down and Assange silenced has a lot to do with it.
But this is what always happens when something leaks about about child trafficking, pedophilia, etc.
Besides the strenuous efforts to cover it up, there is the inability of the public to face and deal with it.
I hope we can find a way to break this cycle.


Hi Natalie and all,

I am in touch with William Tompkins and have invited him to appear on my weekly show on Project Camelot TV. Feel free to subscribe to the channel to be notified about upcoming shows as they are scheduled: http://youtube.com/jagbodhi/

And see my latest update here:
SEASONS GREETINGS FROM KERRY CASSIDY, PROJECT CAMELOT
http://projectcamelotportal.com/2016/12/28/seasons-greetings/
(http://projectcamelotportal.com/2016/12/28/seasons-greetings/)
Reposted here for convenience.

Have a multi-dimensional New Year!

Kerry

SEASONS GREETINGS FROM KERRY CASSIDY, PROJECT CAMELOT
December 28, 2016

I am in the UK and enjoying the holidays. I have managed to organize two interviews while I am here. One with the Barrister, Michael Shrimpton who was arrested for warning the UK government about a nuke threat (which turned out to be correct according to U.S. intelligence) at the Olympics back in 2012. He is out of prison, where he served six months and talking. With a substantial background in the intelligence game he has written a fascinating book called SPYHUNTER. This interview is now complete and being edited. To be released shortly!

Spyhunter-The-Secret-History-of-German-Intelligence

I will be doing an in-person interview with Simon Parkes while here as well. This gives me a unique opportunity to talk with Simon in a more relaxed atmosphere where we can delve into his latest intel on what’s really going on behind the scenes in government and world affairs.

I am also in talks with William Tompkins to plan to have him as a regular guest on my show. Stay tuned for more on this as the days progress.

Thank you for your support of Project Camelot throughout the year. Me and my team, Igor (webmaster) and Neil (designer, cameraman, co-editor) appreciate your continued support.

Funding is needed to continue operations. We exist based largely on donations from people out there. If you want to see Project Camelot continue please consider DONATING!

Project Camelot’s second youtube channel PCTV (Project Camelot TV Network) in spite of our lack of success with our Go Fund Me efforts has continued for the past year with several volunteer show hosts and the valuable help of producer, Brian Onley. At this time, Brian is out of funds and will not be able to continue producing shows for our network without financial assistance! Please consider sending donations to him directly. We do not have enough funds to pay him and he has been working as a producer of shows on the PCTV channel now for over a year for free! Contact Brian at: brianonley@live.com or use this Paypal account to send him DIRECT DONATIONS: www.paypal.me/BrianOnley


In further news our webmaster, Igor, is in sore need of a better computer.
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7alon
29th December 2016, 05:10
Apparently somehow the thought of Reptilians engaging in blood rituals seems like it may be easier for us to stomach than the thought of humans doing it, which is kind of peculiar and I've wondered about that.
Of course, Alex Jones hasn't gone into the Reptilian agenda as far as I am aware, but we certainly have here on Avalon.
It seems perhaps it hits us a lot closer to home when it's humans engaging in such crimes, but perhaps that's because those who do are no longer quite human, or have gone one step too far toward losing their souls to the Reptilians.
And perhaps that is even scarier for us to contemplate.
Though I don't doubt that if we knew all the grisly details, it might shock and galvanize us into a more proactive response.
Yet if that is what is coming, and in a way, we have to pray that it is, who will be the ones willing to deliver the news?
One person who has expressed the desire is William Tompkins friend, Robert Wood.
I hope he has the courage to follow through, and I imagine that Kerry Cassidy would be the one who would help him to do it.

Honestly, I believe that people involved in this satanic stuff are often led by this reptilian race, but are also unaware they are led by them. I don't believe for one second that it is either all just humans or all just reptilians/aliens doing the satanic stuff. It is never that black and white.

onawah
29th December 2016, 05:53
I agree. I think AI has a lot to do with it as well, Archons, and who knows what else.
The Reptilian agenda is just the one we are more familiar with, and I think it's kind of become a catch all description.

DNA
30th December 2016, 11:37
I agree. I think AI has a lot to do with it as well, Archons, and who knows what else.
The Reptilian agenda is just the one we are more familiar with, and I think it's kind of become a catch all description.


This video by Linda Moulton Howe talks about three different experiences with three different masseuses. These masseuses each had an experience where while working on someone they saw a ghost like semitransparent full body Grey appear as if activated due in part to the massage that was taking place. Linda talks about us as "human containers" and these grey non-organic multidimensional forms seem to be inhabiting these "human containers" without the knowledge of the humans being inhabited. Linda recants several other eye witness accounts with similar experiences, one such experience comes from a woman practicing Reiki. Are the non-organic multidimensional entities inhabiting people responsible for some of these practices we see? Are these pizza-gate satanic/saturnistic ritual practicing pedophiles possessed and acting out in part because of this possession?
I'm not sure the case in point being discussed by Linda Moulton Howe has anything to do with this, but it might.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXkL4M41UFo
hXkL4M41UFo

TargeT
30th December 2016, 17:56
Are these pizza-gate satanic/saturnistic ritual practicing pedophiles possessed and acting out in part because of this possession?


I'd like to hope that possession has to include some sort of permission, allowance.

I've never done anything that I didn't at least partially agree with at the time that I did it (even though I may regret it later). But I also think strong emotions/intoxicants allow influence from "outside" also... some are more easily influenced, and I don't know that anyone is aware of it, not really (except for some bewilderment at the actions they took while intoxicated or emotional, maybe some guilt).

But, if this were a game, AI construct, Matrix.... that would be the a great way to seamlessly integrate your self into it (have a pre-defined avatar that doesn't recognize it is being "controlled" is much more immersive).

The Freedom Train
31st December 2016, 05:24
The only thing I remain firmly convinced about is the reality of paedophilia has an increasing risk of occurence with the gathering of power in a corrupted world.

As an example of watered down and glossed over historical admission of *socially acceptable* elite practice of pederasty in ancient Greece: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

The Freedom Train
31st December 2016, 05:38
Honestly, I believe that people involved in this satanic stuff are often led by this reptilian race, but are also unaware they are led by them. I don't believe for one second that it is either all just humans or all just reptilians/aliens doing the satanic stuff. It is never that black and white.

Agreed. The human actors are puppets

The Freedom Train
31st December 2016, 05:46
I'd like to hope that possession has to include some sort of permission, allowance.

I've never done anything that I didn't at least partially agree with at the time that I did it (even though I may regret it later). But I also think strong emotions/intoxicants allow influence from "outside" also... some are more easily influenced, and I don't know that anyone is aware of it, not really (except for some bewilderment at the actions they took while intoxicated or emotional, maybe some guilt).

But, if this were a game, AI construct, Matrix.... that would be the a great way to seamlessly integrate your self into it (have a pre-defined avatar that doesn't recognize it is being "controlled" is much more immersive).

Regarding possession ---

Cultural programming and mind control pave a way for manipulation and possession down the road.

As does engaging in addictive behaviors (consuming drugs, alcohol, caffeine, processed sugars; watching television and movies, playing video games, shopping for the sake of shopping, amongst other obsessive behaviors....)

As does experiencing trauma - physical, emotional/mental, spiritual..... these experiences weaken our defenses - chinks in the armor

The Freedom Train
31st December 2016, 05:57
Annie Lenox fangirl of spirit cooker???

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/10/annie-lennox-on-marina-abramovic

This was released in the Novemeber issue of Vanity Fair (which a family member gave me today to read on the plane. Not my normal cup of tea, but I decided I might as well give it a glance - maybe I would learn something.)

First thing I found interesting was the "new establishment" list - an A-list of elite movers and shakers according to Vanity Fair. Mind controlled slaves, co-opted middle men, and puppets perhaps?

The second thing, which was more profound for me considering the "Eyes Wide Shut" satanic ritualist elite pedo phenomenon I have recently become aware of was the brief praise piece on spirit cooker Abramovic. From the article: "She reveals with a certain candor that much of her outlet of expression has been drawn from a deep well of personal psychic and physical pain, either selectively or unwittingly. "

So yes it seemed pretty clear to me, having seen some of this woman's artwork, that she is disturbed. And we know that trauma paves the way for possession and manipulation.... another puppet.

This being written and submitted mere weeks before the pizzagate bombshell. How is this for coincidence?

Curious77
31st December 2016, 08:32
Agree -- believe there have been threats to Alex Jones --

One of the last videos I saw part of re AJ was his complete and utter distress
as he followed the investigation of pizzagate and child trafficking everywhere
and presumably his own investigations. Jones was totally distraught at what
he was finding out. Details, of course, for those who have looked are horrific
-- but not more horrifying than what is actually going on and which needs to
be stopped. The next thing I saw a bit later was that he was so freaked out
that he was going to need to draw back ... to save his own sanity, it seemed.
But then things took a bit of a twist into what seemed like some contradictions which really weren't believable and also seemed intended not to be clear.
My conclusion is that AJ is under threat -- and considering the many exposes
he has done in the past, it's worth nothing that THIS is the one which brought
him under what seems like very severe threat.

Keep that in mind.

Curious77
31st December 2016, 09:11
Freedom --

As does experiencing trauma - physical, emotional/mental, spiritual..... these experiences weaken our defenses - chinks in the armor

As we've watched the rise of the right, what we see is the rise of violence and chaos along with them. The right cannot rise without violence -- that's always been true -- and it's still true today. This is who they are.

But all of them? We do understand that among every people there are a few who are corrupt and who will act through violence for their own benefit. But are the numbers that we are seeing now believable?

Here are one or two things that we do know as fact --
CIA/MKULTRA and their Monarch program (records ordered destroyed by CIA Richard Helms) advocated torture and sexual abuse (which is also torture) in order to develop Mind Control programs. Iow's, violence.

MKULTRA and Monarch used torture and sexual abuse in order to create "split personalities" in their victims -- often children who were kidnapped or turned over to them by pedophile father who had been abusing the child long before.

What some don't realize is that these new personalities can also be programmed -- and they were -- as homosexual prostitutes, as drug runners, and as spies, for espionage/blackmail. Evidently, photographic memories can also be programmed.
This split, enables the primary personality to carry on without realizing what they are doing otherwise. Needless to say, most of us know that it is very difficult to lie long term and sometimes to calm ones conscience after wrong-doing. Imagine what it takes to continue on normally when a child has experienced what so many of these children have experienced in the way of physical torture.

PLUS -- evidently, you can also create a pedophile by sexually abusing a child from a very early age. NOT all or even most victims will themselves become pedophiles, but some will. Torture and sexually abuse, again, seems to be the key in that regard as well.

Few of us would think of devoting our lives to insanities such as these -- getting up every morning with on thought on your mind -- how to gain control over others.
Basically, these are children who are being made insane in order to carry out an insane agenda. But it seems to be happening. Certainly we see the rise of child and human trafficking -- in some cases for organs. We have anywhere from 500,000 to 800,000 children being kidnapped in the US every year. What is happening to these children? FBI receives tens of millions of dollars every year to find these children. How many are they finding? How many alive? Why is there so much silence from the FBI on this issue?

There are suggestions that our government continues to be involved in these programs via the CIA. In that case, the FBI wouldn't be doing very much reporting on the issues -- and nor would our newspapers (like the NYTimes) be giving the public information about these crimes, either.

I've been thinking along these lines for quite some time now -- and the other day I came upon a video about Bob Lasar -- some might remember him as someone who helped give us some insight into Area 51 as many as 25 years ago. The video was made by someone who had known him then and was one of the original people he began to confide in. What shocked me was hearing a whole NEW part of the story... Evidently, Bob Lasar -- who either was purposefully allowed to see aliens held at Area 51, or who accidently saw them a number of different times -- was drugged and tortured in order to prevent him from imparting his knowledge to anyone else. The torture and drugging took place at Area 51 after the first and later sightings of aliens he witnessed. He was lying on a couch and given something to drink which made him feel as though he was down a dark well or cavern and that his arms were 200 feet long and he was holding on to the rim by his fingertips. A soldier stood nearby with a rifle. As he was cautioned against revealing things he had seen, each time, the soldier would move forward and use the rifle to jab him in the stomach a number of times. Later, as he remembered some of the things he had seen at Area 51, he experienced great pain if he tried to tell anyone else about those things.

There's a pattern here which stems from violence.
We do know that abuse of a child will cause scarring of their brain.
We know abuse of a child can do even worse -- totally destroy conscience and any feelings of guilt or empathy for damage done to another human being.
There are also studies which show that the brains of pedophiles are different.

As we all go forward in trying to stem this rise of violence and corruption which has taken over our government, this seems to be a pattern to consider.

Meanwhile - we now face a New Year and a New regime in DC -- and I very much hope for all our sakes that it isn't a continuation of the rising violence, wars, chaos we've seen over the last 16 years.

ramus
31st December 2016, 15:08
I HOPE THAT THIS STAYS IN THE PUBLIC EYE ...... THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED .... HERE'S MY ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT GOING .

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/outside-the-box/six-case-studies-massive-child-pedophilia-ring-highest-power-levels/

Six Case Studies That Point To A Massive Child Pedophilia Ring At The Highest
Levels Of Power


With all the speculation surrounding the Clintons, and the allegations that they
are intimately tied to a massive child pedophilia ring interconnected with
occult practices, The Last American Vagabond wanted to present the following
case studies to show that the idea of a massive child pedophilia ring at the
highest levels of power is very real and needs to be addressed. This is not a
joke and something people should not take lightly.

To present the research, we would like to showcase a brilliant write-up by a
fellow redditor explaining six cases that point to this being more than mere
separate incidents or isolated events(Thank you for your incredible courage to
do the research and present it for all to see. Your work and time is much
appreciated by those in the Truth community). Each case is heavily researched
with a plethora of links, both within the article and in the sources section
below, for all to do their own personal investigation, as we at The Last
American Vagabond often advocate. Each conscientious truth seeker out there must
not resign to simply take our word for it, or anyone else’s; each must seek
their own conclusions. It is important to read this with an open mind and take
the time to get educated because this issue is of the utmost importance.

Original Post:

Two high-profile pedophilia cases have come to light in recent years, the abuses
of Jerry Sandusky at Penn State and those of famed British entertainer Jimmy
Savile. While both cases certainly garnered their fair share of media attention,
their time in the spotlight has ended and we are led to believe that their
horrific abuses were the result of a lone pedophile preying on children, while
esteemed institutions turned a blind eye to their indiscretions.

Occasionally, however, the media would pick up on a story such as “Jimmy Savile
was part of satanic ring,” or “Jerry Sandusky was part of pedophile ring,
victim claims.” These stories seem absurd at first glance. Yet if they are
investigated further, we are led down a horrific and disturbing rabbit hole of
pedophiles populating positions of power in government, finance, and
entertainment.

Related Reading: American Pedophilia: Prerequisite of a Wealthy Elitist

This post will lay out the evidence for an international pedophile ring of
massive proportions. The information contained within is of tremendous
importance, for we are sitting on our very own modern holocaust, a holocaust of
children. I promise that this statement is by no means an exaggeration, and urge
you to not be scared away by these walls of text, which are as concise as
possible while still conveying the necessary information. Throughout, I will be
completely transparent with my sources, and will not beat you over the head with
conclusions, but rather present you with evidence and let you decide for
yourselves.
THE DUTROUX AFFAIR

I will begin in Belgium, with a case known as the Dutroux affair. This case is
important because it illustrates how investigations can be undermined by a cabal
able to place its members in crucial positions of power, and how powerful people
can be implicated in abusing children. The Dutroux affair was covered
extensively by the mainstream media, and was huge news in Belgium, where 350,000
people took to the streets to protest the handling of the case, known as the
famous White March, from a nation of just 10 million.

The case begins in 1995, when multiple young girls began disappearing around the
area of Bertrix. Young girls had been disappearing in this area for a couple of
years but the BOB (equivalent of the FBI) was unable to develop any solid leads.
A breakthrough was made when a suspicious white van was reported, and the police
were able to trace it to Marc Dutroux, a known pedophile. Dutroux had been
released from prison just a few years earlier, after serving a third of his
sentence, despite reservations among those involved in the hearing and his own
mother, who had warned the parole board that he would certainly cause harm
again.

It was also revealed that Dutroux, though unemployed and receiving welfare from
the state, owned seven homes and lived quite lavishly, from his involvement in
selling children and child porn. It turns out that his mother was right, and
Dutroux was responsible for the recent abductions. Girls as young as 8
reportedly starved to death in a makeshift dungeon in his basement, after months
of sexual abuse.

The knowledge of these horrible transgressions committed by Dutroux are widely
available and thoroughly documented, and though disturbing, are not important
enough to focus on this case. Now, I will attempt to highlight the incompetence
of the investigating police, and the subsequent cover-up of evidence by the
state. Police had investigated Dutroux multiple times without any arrests. Once,
they entered his home and witnessed the outside of a makeshift dungeon in his
basement, while two girls were being held and starved inside. They even reported
hearing voices, though they said they believed Dutroux’s story that the voices
were coming from the street outside.

Police ignored a tip from an informant, who said that Dutroux offered him
between 3,000 and 5,000 dollars to kidnap young girls. Again and again, police
failed to act on information, or acted with complete incompetence. Incredibly,
Police had in their possession a video tape of Dutroux constructing the
makeshift dungeon in one of his basements, and would have saved the lives of two
girls who were being tortured while the police held on to the evidence, had they
viewed the video tape and acted on it.

By September 1996, the official body count had reached 8, and public outrage
over police incompetence mounted. Why had a known pedophile been released so
early from his original prison term, and allowed to terrify a country while the
police stumbled about, seemingly complicit in the carnage?

When the case transferred from the police to the courts, the coverup became much
more egregious. The lead prosecutor, Jean-Marc Conorrette, was dismissed from
the case, which drew huge criticism from across the nation. Conorette became a
hero because it was his initiative that led to the police actually finding two
girls in Dutroux’s captivity. He also was instrumental in finding the bodies of
four more girls. Conorette would later break down in tears in court while
describing the death threats he received when he was still involved with the
investigation.

Fuel to the fire would be added when a highly regarded children’s activist,
Marie France Botte, claimed that prosecutors were sitting on a politically
sensitive list of high-profile customers of Dutrouxs thousands of video tapes.

Marc Verwilghen, the Flemish parliamentarian who became the most popular
politician in the country after leading the inquiry into Dutroux, claimed that
many in the Belgian establishment, including heads of government, refused to
cooperate, and sought to stifle and ridicule his report. He claimed that
magistrates and police were officially told to not answer certain questions, in
what he described as a ‘characteristic smothering operation.’ He was further
quoted as saying ‘For me, the Dutroux affair is a question of organized crime.’
A parliamentary panel revealed the names of 30 government officials it said were
complicit in the hiding of Dutrouxs misdeeds, none have been punished.

The most important information on the case comes from a victim of Dutroux.
Regina Louf was the first to come forward, and was candid about the abuse she
received at the hands of Belgium’s child abuse networks. In 1996, she named and
described in great detail, to a specially assembled police team, the people and
places involved in the paedophile ring. Senior judges, one of the country’s most
powerful politicians – now dead – and a very influential banker were included.
The BBC article says,

“The sessions not only involved sex, they included sadism, torture and
murder; and again, she described in detail, the place, the victims and how they
were killed.”

She corroborated that one of Dutrouxs associates, Jean-Michel Nihoul, was
instrumental in the abuse parties.

“At these parties Nihoul was a sort of party beast while Dutroux was more on
the side.”

Nihoul had significant connections among Belgian political and financial elite.
He confessed to organizing an orgy at a Belgian chateau attended by government
officials. It emerged that Dutroux and Nihoul were part of a long distance child
trafficking ring that imported children from Slovakia.

Let’s get back to the questioning of the witnesses. The primary witnesses to
step forward all suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID). In 98% of
DID cases, the person suffered extreme sexual abuse as a child. The abuse that
the Dutroux witnesses attested to is beyond comprehension. Louf, and other
witnesses, recounted being raped by dogs and snakes, and being forced to witness
the murders of other children which were captured on video tape. That Louf spoke
the truth about witnessing these murders is laid out here in an excellent
manner.

She gave a tremendous amount of detail to her prosecutors that she simply could
not have known without being there herself, and there is simply way too much
evidence to lay it out here. I recommend reading the whole page, which is as
long as a short book, as the research is simply phenomenal. She also reported
being involved with Satanic rituals, which I will address in greater detail
later in the post.

Despite evidence that linked Dutroux and Nihoul to abuse parties and murder
snuff films, the prosecutor that replaced Conorette, Jacques Langlois,
completely dismantled the investigation. He sent police out on false tips and
helped spread disinformation in the media. Although nearly 100 high-profile
people in government, religion, entertainment and finance being accused of
involvement in child abuse, no one of significance other than Dutroux was ever
jailed. Nine police officers would eventually be arrested in connection with the
murders which also contained dozens of suspicious deaths among those who were
helping the case. I have only presented a small picture of what amounts to a
mountain of documentation on Dutroux. For further reading, look here and here.

I understand that my discussion on the Dutroux affair does not validate any of
the claims in the title of this post. It is only one small piece of the puzzle.
It shows how, from the bottom level of police work to the top-level of
prosecution politics, people complicit with pedophiles can be placed into key
positions to ensure that investigations never bear fruit. Now I will briefly
highlight pedophile rings that operated parallel to Dutrouxs during the same
time period, again in which no high level officials were brought to justice,
although they undeniable participated, to illustrate how widespread the child
porn and child abuse epidemic is. I will then move on to more important cases.
Parallel Occurrences

In Latvia, three top officials, including the Prime Minister, were named in
connection with a pedophile ring in which 2000 children in the country were
abused. An online ring known as Wonderland was busted and yielded 750,000 images
of children. From the article:

“Wonderland originated in the United States but also operated in Australia,
Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and
Britain.”

None of the men charged in relation to the ring served more than 30 months in
jail, and only two were put on the sex offenders registry (in the year 2000!!!).

A child porn ring in Mexico was busted and said to have thousands of clients in
the United States. Child porn videos reportedly made a Russian ring 410 million
dollars being sold in Germany, Italy, and the United States. A Dutch ring was
discovered in which images and videos of abuse of infants were circulated. A
magistrate leading an investigation into an Italian pedophile ring denounced
what he called a “paedophile lobby” of powerful politicians which he said openly
obstructed his investigation. French police arrested 250 people associated with
child pornography within a year of the Dutroux affair.
THE LINCOLN, NEBRASKA SCANDAL

From here on out the post gets more surreal. These child abuse and pedophile
rings are not by any means limited to Europe. Rather, the United States has
perhaps the biggest child trafficking epidemic in the world. It is important to
note, before I begin the next segment of this post, that the FBI does not track
statistics for missing children. Of all the statistics it keeps tabs on, rape,
homicide, domestic abuse, what amounts to perhaps the single most important one
in terms of citizen safety is ominously missing. Perhaps they simply do not want
us to know how bad the epidemic is? It should also be noted that FBI prosecution
of major child trafficking rings has been virtually non-existent.

Take a good look at this front page story, published on June 29, 1989. The first
chapter reads:

“A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and
District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan
and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and
foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washingtons political elite,
documents obtained by The Washington Times revealed.”

The story never fully hit the streets, as agents grabbed the copies from
newstands in the early hours of the morning. Another good article for background
before I move on to American organized pedophilia and satanism is this. The
first paragraph reads:

“All nine children tell the same story, a grisly tale of being taken out of
school and abused in a blue house. They name the same culprit, a school
administrator who, they say, performs satanic rituals as part of his twisted
routine. In the 14 months since the first child came forward, police said they
have conducted 150 interviews and cannot substantiate the claims of the
children, who range in age from 5 to 9. Prosecutor Stanley Levco is more blunt:
He doesn’t believe them, and he plans to publicly clear the accused.”

I will now talk about America’s own Dutroux affair, which began in Lincoln,
Nebraska, in the late 1980s. A good part of the story, minus the Satanism
aspect, is covered in a documentary called The Conspiracy of Silence. The
documentary was set to air on the Discovery Channel in 1994 but at the last
minute, it was pulled and destroyed. We only have access to it now because of a
“cutting room copy” leaked a year later. The story begins with Omaha businessman
Lawrence King, who was a rising star in the Republican Party at the time. In
1988, it was revealed that he had diverted millions of dollars from the Franklin
Community Federal Credit Union, the investigation of which spawned an
investigation into a pedophilia ring of mind-blowing proportions. Soon enough,
investigators into the embezzlement scandal began receiving reports of sexual
abuse.

Omaha newspapers were running stories of how young boys from Boystown were being
prostituted among local business leaders and sometimes traveled to Washington.
Parties would include sex, and abuse such as “beatings with extension cords
while naked.” Immediately, the FBI began claiming that there was no substance to
the sexual abuse allegations. The stories of the victims told a drastically
different story. “The older sister alleged that King arranged for her to fly to
parties in Washington, D.C., and other cities where men engaged her in sexual
activity.” Apparently, the abused were all foster children, and they would miss
weeks of school each year taking these trips.

The head of the investigative committee, known as the Franklin Comittee, Gary
Carodori, was also convinced of the rampant child abuse and was determined to
bring perpetrators to justice. As a side note, you can view Caradori’s
interviews with the victims here. Early on in the investigation, Gary Caradori
would meet an untimely death, during a flight on his way to Chicago to review
new evidence. There was a scattered wreckage pattern, indicating that the plane
broke apart in the air, and not upon impact. The new head investigator would
repeatedly lead the committee in the wrong direction, away from child abuse and
satanic ritual claims. A state senator resigned from the investigative committee
and said, “”I really don’t think the things Larry King knew will ever be made
public.” He also cited concerns about the change in leadership.

A New York Times article confirms that state investigators were given thousands
of files regarding sexual abuse from children and testimonies from people
involved in the foster care and education system. What happened next is amazing.
Instead of indicting the accused perpetrators to develop cases against them,
Grand Juries twice ordered the thousands of files to be sealed, and then brought
charges of perjury against some of the victims. The mainstream media did their
part to defend the grand jury and to marginalize the testimonies of the victims.
One of the victims was sentenced to 9-15 years in prison, and spent two years in
solitary confinement. 8 years later the woman in question, Alisha Owen, was
denied a hearing to commute her sentence. Lawrence King, however, would leave
prison after just 10 years, being found guilty only of financial crimes.

As with the Dutroux affair, I have again only shown a small portion of a truly
mind-blowing and exceptionally well documented story. Many victims in their
interviews cited being forced to participate in satanic rituals, and had named
King as a participant. What I hope I have laid out here is that there are
certainly child prostitution rings in the United States and that kids are
transported across the country for high-profile customers. When people get in
the way of these activities, they are silenced or killed. To learn more about
the Franklin Coverup (and there is a lot more to learn!!), read this book by
John DeCamp, watch this documentary, and view this website which has a great
collection of information.
PRESIDIO MILITARY BASE ABUSE

Unfortunately, the next step in this expose takes us to truly bizarre and
disturbing places. A particularly disturbing child abuse case involving a
military day care center came to light in 1987. Allegations of abuse involving
60 children, some infants, surfaced at the Presidio military base in San
Francisco. I would like to point out that this article claims that child abuse
allegations had surfaced at more than 30 military day care centers across the
country in the previous 3 years before its publishing, including some of the
most esteemed bases such as West Point and Fort Dix. It would be impossible to
lay out the case for each one here, but I would like to share this quote from
the San Jose Mercury News:

“Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly
familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had
excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine.
They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”

At the Presidio, at least 4 children were found to have chlamydia, and up to 60
had shown clear signs of abuse. The most important exposes into the Presidio
case were written by Linda Goldston of the San Jose Mercury News. In an article
entitled, “Abuse Case at Presidio Quietly Closed By U.S.,” the events are told
in chilling detail. The first victims to come forward were aged 3 and 4.
Interestingly, the Presidio child care center was not closed until over a year
after these allegations came to light. Initially charges were only brought
against one man, Gary Hambright, a civilian employee.

Later, however, it was revealed that police were investigating a man named
Michael Aquino, a Lt. Col. Aquino was the founder of a satanic church known as
The Temple of Set. Army documents showed that children were often taken on
unnanounced trips outside the center, and many children could accurately
describe Aquinos house. The search of Aquinos house got investigators thousands
of videos and photographs, and what appeared to be a soundproof room, but
charges were never brought against him.

The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry wrote an extensive analysis of the
victims of the Presidio. They stated:

“The severity of the trauma for children at the Presidio was immediately
manifest in clear cut symptoms. Before the abuse was exposed, parents had
already noticed the following changes in their children: vaginal discharge,
genital soreness, rashes, fear of the dark, sleep disturbances, nightmares,
sexually provocative language, and sexually inappropriate behavior. In addition,
the children were exhibiting other radical changes in behavior, including temper
outbursts, sudden mood shifts, and poor impulse control. All these behavioral
symptoms are to be expected in preschool children who have been molested.”

The San Jose Mercury News expanded on the story a few months later with an
article entitled “Army of the Night.” This article dives into the satanic aspect
of the child abuse at the Presidio. Satanism had apparently surfaced at the
Presidio years earlier. Military Police had investigated some buildings after
reports of a man dressed in all black holding a little girls hand had been
reported. An MP was recorded as saying:

“We kicked the door open and here’s this nice little bedroom. In a corner
was a mannequin with a gun aimed at the door. On the left side there was a bunk
against the wall. There was a pentagram on the floor, a huge one. There were
dolls’ heads all over the ceiling, just off-the-wall stuff… We were sitting
there, we’ve got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about
it.

“We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.”

As a side note, in February 1987, Aquino appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show and
gave a passionate defense of his Satanic beliefs. On the Autumnal equinox of
1987, an occult day of importance, fire would strike a building adjacent to the
day care center, destroying many records relating to the center. A month later,
fire would destroy the day care center itself. The ATF found that the causes of
both fires had been arson, contrary to the Army which claimed faulty wiring.
Prosecutors would once again bring charges against Gary Hambright, but
suspiciously they did not include the allegations of children with serious
documented abuse such as missing hymens and rectal lesions. Apparently the
children were chosen on the basis of who would make the best witnesses. The
strategy did not pan out, the judge ruled the charges as “too vague” and
Hambright walked free, and no charges were again brought against the Presidio
military base day care center.
FALSE MEMORIES SYNDROME FOUNDATION

The next case I will address is known as the McMartin Preschool abuse scandal.
But before I delve into that, I need to address the False Memories Syndrome
Foundation, FMSF. They are a prominent group promoting the idea that children
who claim they have been abused in satanic rituals have either wild
imaginations, or were prodded along by zealot psychologists. They have been
tremendously successful in their mission. Recently a Reddit post promoting the
false memory theory received over 2000 upvotes in r/TIL. Members of FMSF have
been called to appear as expert witnesses in dozens of court cases. I have
already established that there have been hundreds of different children
reporting satanic abuse not only across the country, but in different continents
as well. This alone should be enough to make the false memory theory very
flimsy.

However, there is a lot more interesting information about the FMSF to discuss.
A huge amount of members within the FMSF have not only been accused of
pedophilia themselves, but are also a part of the military industrial complex.
Peter J. Freyd founded the FMSF after being accused of sexual abuse by his
daughter. David Dinges, a member of the scientific advisory board of the FMSF,
was involved with Navy Intelligence. Harold Leif was involved with CIA mind
control experiments. Paul McHugh has been a very vocal critic of Dissociative
Identity Disorder and has worked at many military hospitals. Martin T. Orne was
funded by MKULTRA Harvard Crimson. Ralph Underwager claimed it was ‘gods will’
when adults engage in sex with children. There are more suspicious members of
the FMSF but I feel that this list suffices.

I will end this paragraph with a quote from the Columbia Journalism Review:

“Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a
profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False
Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at
manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of
psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers,
Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.”

MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL ABUSE

Now, on to the McMartin Preschool case. The McMartin preschool, located in
California, was the center of a massive child prostitution and pornography ring,
and appears to be the center of an equally massive coverup. Concerns began in
August 1983, when a mother told police that her two-year old son had been
sexually abused. By 1984, 360 children had come forward claiming abuse. A
significant number showed physical evidence of abuse. These kids also described
wild satanic rituals they were forced to participate it, such as eating feces,
necrophilia and coprophilia, with some claims as bizarre as a babies head being
chopped off, and being forced to drink the blood. The children told stories of
being transported in underground tunnels.

The mainstream media did their best to discredit the tunnel theory. However,
archeologist E. Gary Stickel, PhD conducted a study of the McMartin preschool
grounds, which you can read here. The survey was conducted in 1990, after the
property had been sold, and long after charges against the abuse perpetrators
had been dropped, and the victims thoroughly marginalized in the mainstream
media, with help from the FSMF. Stickel found two extensive tunnel systems
underneath the preschool, which accurately reflected the testimonies given by
the children.

In summation, the media and government would have us believe that 360 children
all invented false memories of horrific satanic abuse, of participating in
rituals in which adults sheathed in black ceremonial robes uttered chants, that
they lied about being transported for prostitution across town, and that they
lied about being photographed and videotaped for child pornography, despite
verification of emotional and physical abuse in most of the children as well as
the existence of tunnels under the complex. Again, the victims were marginalized
in the press, the FBI denied any legitimate claims, the prosecution harassed
victims endlessly in court, and all charges were eventually dropped.
THE FINDERS

In 1987 the New York Times ran a story about a little known cult called “The
Finders.” The first paragraph reads:

“Police officials here said today that six disheveled children found in
Tallahassee, Fla., might be the offspring of members of a little-known cult, but
the officials said they had not ruled out the possibility of kidnapping.”

The Finders had previously been described in the media:

“In appearance, the Finders—mostly middle-aged men, always in dark
suits—wouldn’t be out of place managing a local funeral home. But the behavior
of the handful of adherents has people wondering whether they arrived by flying
saucer.

Townspeople say the Finders constantly walk the streets, following people
home and taking extensive notes and pictures. They often appear at local council
meetings, never saying a word but simply observing the scene. At other times,
they plunder the visitor’s center of brochures, maps, and local travel guides.
And they haunt the courthouse, scouring land deeds to find out who owns the
local real estate.”

Who are these suspicious people, and what were they doing with 6 undocumented
children, transporting them across the country? The children were found to show
signs of sexual abuse. Customs agents raided one the Finders compounds, and
found detailed instructions on obtaining children for unknown purposes and
several photographs of nude children.

The US News and World Report article continues:

“The more the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they
seemed: There were suggestions of child abuse, Satanism, dealing in pornography
and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of the allegations was ever proved,
however. The child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee were
dropped.”

The stories about The Finders quickly died down, but would not disappear
entirely, as rumors linking The Finders to the CIA persisted. According to the
US News and World Report,

“Customs Service documents reveal that in 1987, when Customs agents sought
to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, D.C., police, they were told
that the Finders investigation ‘had become a CIA internal matter.’ The police
report on the case had been classified secret.”

Florida congressman Tom Lewis was quoted as saying:

“’Could our own government have something to do with this Finders
organization and turned their backs on these children? That’s what all the
evidence points to,” says Lewis. “And there’s a lot of evidence. I can tell you
this: We’ve got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn’t be happening if
there was nothing here.’“

A connection was produced, and confirmed by the CIA: A firm that provided
computer training to CIA officers also employed several members of the Finders.
Anyone researching the CIA will come to the conclusion that the organization
does not contract training out to other sources, it only ever creates
proprietary organizations.

***

This was an extensive compilation of research that should not be taken at face
value, as nothing today truly should, but should be used as a starting point for
those wanting to know the truth and not the State-sponsored comforting lie. That
is not to imply that the information is suspect or possibly incorrect, but
rather that with such a profoundly disturbing and relevant topic such as this,
it is paramount that one come to their own conclusions and not simply accept
another’s findings. All of the information here within is sourced back to
mainstream sources(for those who still feel that holds some measure of
legitimacy) and actual documented events and investigations. Please forward this
to anyone who needs to see actual documentation of events.

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onawah
31st December 2016, 17:45
California Democrats Make Child Prostitution Legal…

California…The New Child Sex Trafficking Destination Hot Spot of The West…
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Opinion By Karri Lewis AWAKE California
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Say What?

Yep, wipe the cobwebs from your eyes…this is no California Dreamin’ story…

This is more equivalent to the STUFF of NIGHTMARES…and PART of the New California NIGHTMARE for ALL Children.

On January 1, 2017, with little fanfare and easy passage through the California Democrat-Controlled state legislature (⅔ super-majority), Senate Bill 1322, Commercial Sex Acts: Minors, goes into effect.

The full text of SB 1322 can be found here.

California legislators that supported the passage of SB 1322 can be found here.

And it IS just as BAD as it SOUNDS…

Sponsored by Democratic Senator, Holly Mitchell, SB 1322 decriminalizes any act of prostitution for children under 18. The State of California press Release says:

“The law is supposed to protect vulnerable children from adult abuse, yet we brand kids enmeshed in sex-for-pay with a scarlet ‘P’ and leave them subject to shame and prosecution,” said State Senator Holly J. Mitchell (D-Los Angeles), who introduced SB 1322. “This is our opportunity to do what we say is right in cases of sex trafficking: stop the exploiters and help the exploited.”

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“The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions.”
But others that actually work with child sex trafficking victims, had this to say about Senate Bill 1322:

“As Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O’Malley, a national leader on human trafficking issues, told the media, “It just opens up the door for traffickers to use these kids to commit crimes and exploit them even worse.” Another prosecutor insightfully observed that if traffickers wrote legislation to protect themselves, it would read like SB 1322.”


A Back Door Way of Legalizing Child Prostitution and Pedophilia in California…

Yes, you heard that Right…Senate Bill 1322 makes it LEGAL for children to sell their bodies to anyone; ADULTS INCLUDED, without any interference from the State of California.

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It is estimated that 1.2 million children are trafficked globally every year. -www.unicef.ca
What this law now does, because it does not include any additional or alternative funding for counseling, housing or protection of child sex trafficking victims, is put the child victims right back out on the streets and into the hands of the adult Pedophile Pimps.

The Child Sex Trafficking victims now have even less protections than they did BEFORE child prostitution was decriminalized.

Way to go California Liberal-Communist (Democrat) Legislators!

You’ve just now created a Pedophilia Paradise…your moms and dads should be proud!

(Sarcasm intended)

With the help of none other than, California Democrat (and head liberal-communist) Governor Jerry Brown, who happily signed SB 1322 into law, California is now a Child Sex Trafficker’s destination hot spot!

“There is no such thing as a child prostitute,” announced California Governor Jerry Brown when he signed SB 1322 into law in September.

And indeed now that child prostitution is legal in California as of January 1st, POOF there is “no such thing as a child prostitute, ” according to Jerry.
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Convicted child rapist, Jared Fogle of Subway fame, would find a Pedophilia Paradise in California. He, and those like him, won’t have to fly to Indonesia any more…
Well at least the state budget earmarked for child sex trafficking victims (because child prostitutes no longer exist in the State of California), gets to be evaporated and put into other more fiscally “needed” services, like forced poisoning of ALL school Children via vaccines for depopulation purposes.

Sigh…Big Relief…

(Again, sarcasm intended)

Speaking of depopulation, sex trafficking of minors and Senator Richard Pan’s new proposed Senate Bill 18, which gives parental rights away to the state…

What has happened to all of the South and Central American unaccompanied immigrant children that were dispersed throughout California and the U.S.?

From the Huffington Post:

“According to the California Child Welfare Council, kids as young as 10 are being peddled for sex every day in Los Angeles County. Many of them come from troubled families and have previously been under the jurisdiction of the Department of Children and Family Services.”

According to the Washington Times – “Under the Obama administration, these “orphan” child immigrants were being loaded into the United States by the busloads.

What happened to these children? They were turned over to Child Protective Services units nationwide.

According to Medical Kidnap “Child Protection Services is a known child sex trafficking organization with little to no oversight.”

According to the authoritative InfoWars website:

“Sixty five percent of the children rounded up in human trafficking busts have turned up as victims who are actually wards of the state — via CPS.”

Democrats, you have some explaining to do…

When it comes to what has become of all of those unaccompanied Central and South American immigrant children in the California State CPS system, you can bet all of those records are “lost.”

…to be continued.

Opinion By Karri Lewis AWAKE California

onawah
1st January 2017, 19:45
#PizzaGate EXCLUSIVE: I Found the Basement
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Published on Dec 11, 2016
An investigation into the basement many people think is hiding under Comet Ping Pong and tied into the PizzaGate scandal.

ElgMxNupb1s From 2 years ago, but certainly still applies.

The Freedom Train
1st January 2017, 21:43
FLASE MEMORIES SYNDROME FOUNDATION

The next case I will address is known as the McMartin Preschool abuse scandal.
But before I delve into that, I need to address the False Memories Syndrome
Foundation, FMSF. They are a prominent group promoting the idea that children
who claim they have been abused in satanic rituals have either wild
imaginations, or were prodded along by zealot psychologists. They have been
tremendously successful in their mission. Recently a Reddit post promoting the
false memory theory received over 2000 upvotes in r/TIL. Members of FMSF have
been called to appear as expert witnesses in dozens of court cases. I have
already established that there have been hundreds of different children
reporting satanic abuse not only across the country, but in different continents
as well. This alone should be enough to make the false memory theory very
flimsy.

However, there is a lot more interesting information about the FMSF to discuss.
A huge amount of members within the FMSF have not only been accused of
pedophilia themselves, but are also a part of the military industrial complex.
Peter J. Freyd founded the FMSF after being accused of sexual abuse by his
daughter. David Dinges, a member of the scientific advisory board of the FMSF,
was involved with Navy Intelligence. Harold Leif was involved with CIA mind
control experiments. Paul McHugh has been a very vocal critic of Dissociative
Identity Disorder and has worked at many military hospitals. Martin T. Orne was
funded by MKULTRA Harvard Crimson. Ralph Underwager claimed it was ‘gods will’
when adults engage in sex with children. There are more suspicious members of
the FMSF but I feel that this list suffices.

I will end this paragraph with a quote from the Columbia Journalism Review:

“Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a
profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False
Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at
manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of
psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers,
Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.”

This is so interesting!!! As a TI, I was thinking recently about utilizing hypnotherapy to delve into my subconcious, to see if there was anything there I am as of yet unaware of. I had had a flash of abuse, triggered by my learning of the pizzagate phenomenon, which was wholly unsuspected. I lost touch with any sense of reality for an entire day, unable to believe in anything. It was a severe reaction.

For some reason I chose to google trauma induced amnesia, and found also in my search the False Memories group. It seemed to stink of something foul to me as I read about it - reminded me of the guardianship protocols that states have in place for forcing reprogramming psychoactive drugs on their hostage mental patients.

Thank you for finding this and for shedding some new light on a seriously disturbing aspect of our current state of affairs.

norman
5th January 2017, 06:21
Yoichi Shimatsu has been researching and writing about the pedophilia issue as a series for Rense dot com. There are 7 parts so far.


1) PizzaGate Is A Giant Step For Investigative Journalism:
http://www.rense.com/general96/pizzagateyoichi.htm#sthash.EUo1JN2c.dpuf

2) Are The PizzaGate Pimps For The Global Elite Up To Snuff?:
http://www.rense.com/general96/pizzapimps.htm#sthash.nDL8kgNZ.dpuf

3) It Takes A Spillage...Of Blood...To Awaken PizzaGate:
http://www.rense.com/general96/spillage.htm#sthash.nna17rrk.dpuf

4) Clintons, Soros Implicated In Norway Child Porn & Macedonia Fake News:
http://www.rense.com/general96/clintonssoros.htm#sthash.Lwcxj4Ij.dpuf

5) For Anyone Who Still Believes Snopes Is An Abuse Victim:
http://www.rense.com/general96/snopesvict.htm#sthash.yuKRMgFM.dpuf

6) Strange Days In The Snopes-DHS-ICE Underworld:
http://www.rense.com/general96/strangedayspizza.htm#sthash.cKcyF4tG.dpuf

7) Pedophile Savile Haunts The New York Times:
http://www.rense.com/general96/savileNYT.htm#sthash.UcRSefHo.dpuf



MP3 file to play or download ( Rense show 2017-01-04 ):

https://app.box.com/s/uiqoo0t3prfy2kn1dw3k37ehfdl6m0iz



also this previous interview from 2016-12-26
http://rense2.gsradio.net/rense/special/rense_122616_hr1.mp3

Eram
5th January 2017, 06:45
Someone found out where the alleged "kill room" is.
It's in the pegasus museum, owned by James Alefantis.
3516 11th street northwest (https://www.google.com/maps/place/38°55'59.5"N+77°01'44.4"W/@38.933202,-77.0295605,161m), Washington.

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ThePythonicCow
5th January 2017, 10:00
Someone found out where the alleged "kill room" is.
It's in the pegasus museum, owned by James Alefantis.
3516 11th street northwest (https://www.google.com/maps/place/38°55'59.5"N+77°01'44.4"W/@38.933202,-77.0295605,161m), Washington.

Here's a more current view of Pegasus Museum, marked with a red circle. It's roof has been papered over, hiding the details that were visible in the youtube video above.

http://thepythoniccow.us/Pegasus_Museum_Screenshot_2017-01-05_03-45-27.jpg

Cidersomerset
5th January 2017, 10:56
There were a couple articles posted on Davids headline page which
I put on the Jimmy Saville thread they may have already been posted....

Apologies if these are duplicates....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=1124882&viewfull=1#post1124882

US State Department & Jeffrey Epstein Tied to Child Trafficking Operation

By David on 4 January 2017 GMT

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/get-attachment-363.jpg



‘Evidence has emerged that the U.S. State Department is tied to a child trafficking operation involving
Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. According to internet detectives, one of Epstein’s aircraft which
was linked to the trafficking of underage girls is actually owned and operated by the U.S. State Department…

…The video below also reviews how Jeffrey Epstein is tied not only to Bill Clinton during what has amounted
to multiple trips to “orgy island,” but now his helicopter has been discovered to somehow share a tail number
with a State Department plane used by a private military company (Dyncorp), for “counter-insurgency” and
“counter-narcotics” operations in Colombia.’


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http://freedomoutpost.com/state-department-jeffrey-epstein-tied-to-child-trafficking-operation/

Read more: US State Department & Jeffrey Epstein Tied to Child Trafficking Operation

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Paedophile Savile Haunts The New York Times

By David on 4 January 2017 GMT Child Abuse,

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Untitled-3-10.jpg


‘Here in Part 7 of the Pizzagate series, we trace the media cover-up of Pizzagate pedophilia
back to the 2012 decision by publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. to install former BBC
director-general Mark Thompson as CEO of The New York Times. The British import was
previously involved in two criminal cover-ups in the UK: of the suspicious circumstances
behind the death of Iraq-invasion whistle-blower Dr. David Kelly and insider protection of
BBC’s in-house pedophile ring leader Jimmy Saville.

Objections raised by senior NY Times editors against Thompson’s association with pedophiles
are considered here. Also examined is his relationship with Marcus Agius, an in-law of the
Rothschild clan on the BCC executive board and banker who had a leading role in the Libor
rate-fixing fraud in London. Their association provides insight into the Hellfire tradition of
prostitution and the secret cooperation between the Jesuit order and the Illuminati secret society.’

Read more: Paedophile Savile Haunts The New York Times

http://www.rense.com/general96/savileNYT.htm

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pizzagate: A Primer

By David on 3 January 2017 GMT

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Published on 1 Jan 2017


www.martyleeds33.com

All of the investigative work in this video was not done by me. Many thanks goes out to all those
online researchers, 4chan, twitter, reddit, and now voat.co who are keeping this conversation alive.

#pizzagate is real and the amount of evidence is staggering and mountainous. We the people have
a moral obligation to speak out and discuss this, holding those accountable for perpetuating this
madness. This video is my small contribution to help those who may not be familiar with all the
intricacies of this investigation.

For many of you, this video will be nothing new, for others it will be a complete shock. Those of us
who do spend our time researching things of this magnitude often tend to live in a bubble. Our online
world becomes an echo-chamber and we often don't realize how little so many people know, especially
those entrenched in the narrative pushed by the major news media. On this subject, I found the
bifurcation of ignorance and knowledge fairly wide and so I gave my hand at summing up the accusations
and evidence in the most concise, straight forward and honest way I could. Obviously there are going to
be mistakes and errors made, as will happen in any honest research, and I only hope that anyone brining
skepticism and criticisms on any of the errors made in this film will be even-handed on their assessment
of the undeniable and damning evidence in this investigation.

It took me till New Years to get this out. So I guess here is my Happy New Years gift to the world.

Heck, it's not even really "New Years" anyway, the real new year is supposed to start in Spring. Oh well. :)

Much love to all and God bless,
Marty

Cidersomerset
5th January 2017, 17:53
This clip is from pre Saville and he says that witness's said they like to get
the keys to mortuaries and............


Why Hundreds of Thousands Of Children Go Missing Every Year - David Icke

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Published on 8 Nov 2016

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It was revealed that Saville had keys to the mortuary and much more sinister
allegations....

There were many headlines at the time but it has all gone quite....


Savile was given unrestricted access to Stoke Mandeville Hospital,
including the morgue, despite his reputation as a "sex pest", a new report was told
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-seen-having-sex-5234283
http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5234830.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/jimmy-savile-stoke-mandeville-hospital-main.jpg


Tory Whip Would Help Cover up Potential Paedophile Scandal ( 1995 TV clip )

( "brownie points". = black mail = do as we say )

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Published on 8 Jul 2014
1995. The late Tory Whip during the Heath years, Tim Fortescue, explains how
party whips would help cover up a potential paedophile scandal for "brownie points".

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British VIP Paedophile Ring.

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Published on 2 Jan 2015


A “powerful elite” of at least 20 formed a VIP pedophile ring that abused children
for decades in the UK, a former child protection officer has revealed.
Whistleblower Peter McKelvie, who first raised the alarm about high profile
individuals engaged in child sex abuse, said senior politicians, military figures and
even people linked to the royal family are among the alleged abusers.
McKelvie said that their campaign of abuse may have been going on for about 65
years, but “there has always been the cover-up and the collusion to prevent an
investigation.”
This edition of The Monarchy will investigate the issue and assess the newly
uncovered allegations.


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The investigation enquiry set up by Teresa May is in chaos , probably by design..


INDEPENDENT....

Theresa May accused of cover-up over child abuse inquiry concerns

It comes after a string of high-profile resignations from the inquiry into historic abuse
Joe Watts Political Editor |
@JoeWatts_ |
Wednesday 19 October 2016|


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-child-abuse-inquiry-cover-up-concerns-dame-lowell-goddard-stories-a7369976.html

Cidersomerset
5th January 2017, 18:22
This is part of one of David all day presentations from either 2015 or 16 ?
Its a excellent well presented segment covering many known aspects of
Satan history from its roots to today , an entertaining presentation that
will make you think . Some of this you may have come across and some
you may not agree with his interpretations but thought provoking connecting
many dots and explaining what might be one of the driving forces of this reality.....


Satanists & Pedophiles Run The World - David Icke

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Published on 30 Aug 2016
World Tour Tickets - http://www.TheWorldWideWakeUp.com 2016/17

7alon
6th January 2017, 04:17
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Curious77
6th January 2017, 06:53
Is the explanation for this that California has a lot of pedophiles running your government?

Certainly, on this coast we're doing our best to figure it all out, focus on Comet Pizza as the way in.

:)

Curious77
6th January 2017, 07:05
Some viewers feel that Alex Jones has been seriously threatened
about his investigation --
I tend to agree.

Curious77
6th January 2017, 07:17
Would just add this video which I found very interesting today --

Jim Fetzer with Detective Jim Rothstein on pizzagate and more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnT5amf6Ys

Jim Fetzer with Detective Jim Rothstein on pizzagate and more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnT5amf6Ys

Really good on the NYPD investigations -- going back over 50 years -- and the fact that they
were stopped 3X having reached the same higher levels that are being reached by investigations
now.

Also interesting at about (6:00 something on video and again at about 16:00 on video) WATERGATE
which Rothstein says was not only about prostitution ring, but also pedophile ring. And some comments
as well about Bermuda and Vatican Bank.

Still a promise that if FBI or DOJ don't do something about this that they'll get the info out somehow re
the Hillary emails on Weiner's laptop.

Will be great if they can do it.

Also, Rothstein makes clear that the military isn't in the picture yet and they are certainly involved. See: Kay Griggs/YouTube and the alert she tried to give us quite a while back about sexual abuse in military.


PS: Think I've posted this somewhere here, but good to repeat it re underground tunnels beneath DC and involvement of Pentagon in the kidnappings of children.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA


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The Freedom Train
6th January 2017, 07:20
Meanwhile, current fbi "investigation" is regarding the Russian hacking scandal - which is of course promoted as fact - not suspected or alleged - and certainly not fake news. No the Russian hacking that destroyed the Clinton bid for presidency is real because they tell us it is real. Period. And forget about all that pizzagate nonsense - no need to investigate any further there......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4092222/New-questions-arise-FBI-probe-Russian-election-year-hacking-s-revealed-never-asked-examine-Democratic-Party-s-server.html

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-never-examined-dnc-servers-russian-hacks/

muxfolder
6th January 2017, 19:12
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Those people seem to know they are untouchable and they seem to be very arrogant too. Why would they post any of those things in public? Sure they knew that anyone can see those posts? They just don't care because they know they can't get caught? This Alefantis guy seems to be some hot head who is very likely to be the scapegoat they need to put this pizzagate to go away. Someone is going to pay the price, but it's never ever going to be someone in the top of the elite. That's simply not gonna happen.

Hervé
6th January 2017, 20:08
"Normalization" of population via TV:

FOX "Comedy" Features 6yo 'Trans' Boy Wearing Bondage Gag (http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56069)

Chris Menahan InformationLiberation (http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56069)
Jan. 04, 2017

http://www.informationliberation.com/space.gif

http://www.informationliberation.com/files/fox-propaganda-gag-child.jpg
A sickening new "comedy" show on FOX features a 6-year-old boy wearing a bondage gag.


The boy, who is apparently transgendered, is seen wearing the gag after burning his tongue licking a hot grill at a Benihana style restaurant in exchange for $1,000 from his older teenage brother.

The FOX show is named "The Mick" and it aired on January 1st, 2017. It was created (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mick_%28TV_series%29) by Dave Chernin and John Chernin, both sons of top Hollywood executive Peter Chernin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Chernin).

Other scenes show the boy dressing like a girl and commenting how the dress he's wearing "kind of breezes on my vagina."


http://www.informationliberation.com/files/trans-boy-fox.png


Another scene shows the boy celebrate after a man's eye is impaled in front of him by a woman's high-heeled shoe. As blood is shooting on the boy's face and clothes, he exclaims, "cool!"

[UPDATE: Since going viral after this article was linked to on the front page of Drudge (http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56073), the trailer was removed without explanation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b00ug27WFu0). Nonetheless, this is the internet, so I replaced it with another copy. Here's another mirror (https://streamable.com/g46vf).]

Another forced scene highlighted by Newsbusters (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/lindsay-kornick/2017/01/01/mick-highlights-planned-parenthood-services-pilot) shows one of the characters awkwardly praising Planned Parenthood, plugging how they provide "health care to over three million women in this country."

While Sam Hyde's show was canceled from Adult Swim for jokes vaguely referencing the alt-right (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/09/adult-swim-fired-me-for-supporting-donald-trump-heres-how-it-went-down/), utter filth like this is aired during prime time on FOX.

Debra
7th January 2017, 01:35
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

Mark (Star Mariner)
7th January 2017, 13:57
On January 1, 2017, with little fanfare and easy passage through the California Democrat-Controlled state legislature (⅔ super-majority), Senate Bill 1322, Commercial Sex Acts: Minors, goes into effect.

What?



Senator Holly J. Mitchell (D-Los Angeles), who introduced SB 1322 [said] “This is our opportunity to do what we say is right in cases of sex trafficking: stop the exploiters and help the exploited.”

Eh?


Senate Bill 1322 makes it LEGAL for children to sell their bodies to anyone; ADULTS INCLUDED, without any interference from the State of California.

Good Christ!


California Democrat, Governor Jerry Brown when he signed SB 1322 into law in September [said] “There is no such thing as a child prostitute.”

w..t..f

This is shocking. This is the most awful, outrageous piece of legislation I've ever heard of. I do understand and kind of sympathize with moves in various places to legalize (regular adult) prostitution in highly controlled environments. This is to clean up the image of the inner cities. But this drive does NOT translate to minors. This will not serve to protect children in any way. It makes the problem worse: it encourages it. You cannot simply solve a legal problem by decriminalizing it. We're not talking about cannabis use here. Child exploitation is a million miles away from that!

I cannot understand why this unbelievable story isn't on the front page of every newspaper, or the top story of every news channel.

onawah
7th January 2017, 21:20
It appears the elite are using California to push through other agendas too which are extremely dangerous particularly for children, such as mandatory vaccines.
If they can do it in California, apparently, they think they can do it in all the other states as well.
California seems to have the best and the worst of everything!
Starting with the following link, there are a string of posts about the push for mandatory vaccines in Ca. and the fight to stop it.:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71330-Do-vaccines-contribute-to-autism-Should-we-vaccinate&p=1119300&viewfull=1#post1119300



On January 1, 2017, with little fanfare and easy passage through the California Democrat-Controlled state legislature (⅔ super-majority), Senate Bill 1322, Commercial Sex Acts: Minors, goes into effect.

What?



Senator Holly J. Mitchell (D-Los Angeles), who introduced SB 1322 [said] “This is our opportunity to do what we say is right in cases of sex trafficking: stop the exploiters and help the exploited.”

Eh?


Senate Bill 1322 makes it LEGAL for children to sell their bodies to anyone; ADULTS INCLUDED, without any interference from the State of California.

Good Christ!


California Democrat, Governor Jerry Brown when he signed SB 1322 into law in September [said] “There is no such thing as a child prostitute.”

w..t..f

This is shocking. This is the most awful, outrageous piece of legislation I've ever heard of. I do understand and kind of sympathize with moves in various places to legalize (regular adult) prostitution in highly controlled environments. This is to clean up the image of the inner cities. But this drive does NOT translate to minors. This will not serve to protect children in any way. It makes the problem worse: it encourages it. You cannot simply solve a legal problem by decriminalizing it. We're not talking about cannabis use here. Child exploitation is a million miles away from that!

I cannot understand why this unbelievable story isn't on the front page of every newspaper, or the top story of every news channel.

Hervé
7th January 2017, 22:33
FBI caught letting pedophiles go free rather than revealing their investigative techniques (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-child-predators-free-hacking/)

Jack Burns The Free Thought Project (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-child-predators-free-hacking/)
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s14/297379/large/fbi_serving_child_porn.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s14/297379/full/fbi_serving_child_porn.jpg)


The Federal Bureau of Investigations and the Department of Justice would rather let hardened pedophiles go free than to turn over information related to their methods of gathering evidence against such suspects. In some cases, the FBI has reportedly run porn sites (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-gave-215000-sickos-child-porn-25-arrests/) in order to gather information on child porn seekers. And in other instances, the FBI has infected suspects' computers with malware, all in an effort to gather the evidence necessary for a conviction.

Labeled "The Playpen," the FBI's kiddie porn sting operation on Friday saw the latest suspect to walk free. His name is Jay Michaud. His lawyer successfully argued in court that the FBI must turn over to his team of lawyers information regarding the Network Investigative Technique (NIT) it used to gather evidence on Mr. Michaud. The FBI said it would not turn over any information regarding NIT to the defense team, and the judge in the case, Judge Bryan then ruled all evidence gathered from NIT must be therefore suppressed.

As a result of the FBI's refusal to turn over any information about the NIT used to gather information on Michaud, the FBI then chose to let Mr. Michaud go free. According to Techdirt, (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/08320436415/fbi-dismisses-child-porn-prosecution-after-refusing-to-hand-over-details-hacking-tool.shtml) this is a common practice for the FBI when forced to choose between handing over technical data or letting a suspect walk free.

"The FBI is developing quite the reputation for dropping prosecutions in the face of challenges of its secret tools and techniques. The NDAs it hands out to every law enforcement agency seeking to purchase Stingrays not only tells them to obscure the device's use, but to let suspects walk if it seems some of this info might make its way into the courtroom," Techdirt writes.

The FBI has been criticized for its practices in evidence gathering. Techdirt writes, "The FBI argues in court (often obtaining the court's agreement) that these questionable tactics (deploying malware, warrants that ignore jurisdictional limits, running child porn sites rather than shutting them down, etc.) are justified because the people it's going after (child porn viewers/distributors) are that terrible. But then it turns around and lets the very bottom of its basket of criminal suspect deplorables go free rather than hand over information to the defense. It does this even though the defense, the judge, and the DOJ would do all they could to protect as much of the NIT information as possible, including sealing documents and redacting those that are published."

During the trial, the FBI drew the criticism of the court (https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=nit) which found it acted in an "outrageous" manner. The court then described the six ways the FBI acted recklessly in its evidence gathering against child porn suspects.
(1) The Government ignored the statute forbidding such conduct: "In any criminal proceeding, any property or material that constitutes child pornography . . . shall remain in the care, custody and control of either the Government or the Court." 18 U.S.C § 3509(m).

(2) The Government facilitated the continued availability of Website A, a site containing hundreds of child pornographic images for criminal users around the world.

(3) The Government, in fact, improved Website A's technical functionality.

(4) The Government re-victimized hundreds of children by keeping Website A online.

(5) The Government used the child victims as bait to apprehend viewers of child pornography without informing the victims and without the victims' permission—or that of their families.

(6) The Government's actions placed any lawyer involved in jeopardy for violating ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct 8.4, and raise serious ethical and moral issues for counsel. It is the conclusion of the court that the FBI ran a kiddie porn website, used kids as "bait," and improved access to the child porn website, all in an effort to gather evidence on porn users. The most damning criticism from the statements seems to be the knowledge that child porn victims, the children, and their images, were used without their knowledge, once again, to draw in pedophiles to the government-run website.

It really seems unnecessary doesn't it? Here at TFTP, there's absolutely no mercy for pedophiles, especially when those perpetrators are police officers, or people in positions of authority, such as pastors, missionaries, or priests. But knowing the government is in the business of kiddy porn to entrap such people is arguably more disturbing.

Even after being caught red-handed, instead of sharing the technology behind their evidence gathering, they chose to let the perpetrators, whom they admitted are the worst of society, walk free. Those actions may serve to demonstrate the FBI has a greater commitment to its secrecy than it does to protecting children caught up in the world of child pornography.

In light of the fact that Edward Snowden (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/tag/edward-snowden/) has revealed to the world the capabilities the federal government has to spy on all Americans, what harm would come from revealing the small ways the government was able to gather information on child porn purveyors and users? If they are, after all, the dregs of society, and we believe they are and should be shown no mercy, then risking exposing your methods to jail a pedophile predator, is more than worth taking that chance.

According to the court, "The only justification for the acts of the Government, as provided by counsel, is that the end justifies the means, or in the Government's words, 'Because those who create, obtain, trade, distribute and profit from the imagery of the rape and sexual exploitation of children have turned to Tor in an effort to hide their activities, the United States has been forced to employ creative means to unmask the individuals engaging in the destructive and heinous criminal conduct.'"

But instead of revealing those creative measures, they're now letting the despicable crooks go back to their pedophile ways, possibly emboldened to keep their activities further hidden from the prying eyes of big brother.


SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/338953-FBI-caught-letting-pedophiles-go-free-rather-than-revealing-their-investigative-techniques)
Doesn't that make the whole operation pointless if they if they aren't willing to provide the evidence that will put these predators behind bars? As a result of their running of a child porn site (https://www.sott.net/article/326215-FBI-secretly-took-over-child-porn-site-in-2015-distributing-child-porn-and-improving-web-site-performance-in-Playpen-case) for two weeks (as part of their investigative techniques) "the number of visitors to Playpen while it was under Government control [increased] from an average of 11,000 weekly visitors to approximately 50,000 per week. During those two weeks, the website's membership grew by over 30 percent, the number of unique weekly visitors to the site more than quadrupled, and approximately 200 videos, 9,000 images, and 13,000 links to child pornography were posted on the site,"

One wonders if the FBI has other agendas, such as furthering and even improving the distribution of child pornography.

Child porn evidence thrown out of court - FBI refuses to divulge Tor hack code (https://www.sott.net/article/319097-Child-porn-evidence-thrown-out-of-court-FBI-refuses-to-divulge-Tor-hack-code)
FBI secretly took over child porn site in 2015, distributing child porn and improving web site performance in 'Playpen' case (https://www.sott.net/article/326215-FBI-secretly-took-over-child-porn-site-in-2015-distributing-child-porn-and-improving-web-site-performance-in-Playpen-case)
FBI hacked into 8k computers in 120 countries investigating child pornography (https://www.sott.net/article/334610-FBI-hacked-into-8k-computers-in-120-countries-investigating-child-pornography)
FBI ran 23 Dark Web child porn sites to gather visitor info with malware (https://www.rt.com/usa/366567-fbi-child-porn-sites/)
FBI allows over 200K pedophiles access to child porn to make 25 arrests (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-gave-215000-sickos-child-porn-25-arrests/)
Child porn "epidemic" among Pentagon officials and US government employees (https://www.sott.net/article/278886-Child-porn-epidemic-among-Pentagon-officials-and-US-government-employees)
FBI veteran arrested on child pornography charges (https://www.sott.net/article/245547-FBI-veteran-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges)

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Too many things wrong with that FBI painted picture...

awakeningmom
7th January 2017, 22:40
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

This was a disturbing video -- but you would think that this Voat guy would have recorded the phone calls with Alefantis making these explicit threats against him and his family? In any event, these texts, if truly coming from Alefantis, certainly show a guy throwing his 49th most powerful man in DC weight around -- hardly the "nice" guy and hapless victim of a false conspiracy the NYT and WaPo are trying to paint him as in their "debunking" articles.

onawah
7th January 2017, 23:00
That poor, brave guy took on more than he bargained for.
I certainly hope the personal sacrifice will prove to be worth it.
He deserves our prayers.
Hopefully some law enforcement officials will be shamed into actually doing something.
It can't be legal to threaten someone's life, even in an email, and at least he has the evidence to prove that Alefantis did that.



I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

This was a disturbing video -- but you would think that this Voat guy would have recorded the phone calls with Alefantis making these explicit threats against him and his family? In any event, these texts, if truly coming from Alefantis, certainly show a guy throwing his 49th most powerful man in DC weight around -- hardly the "nice" guy and hapless victim of a false conspiracy the NYT and WaPo are trying to paint him as in their "debunking" articles.

7alon
8th January 2017, 02:45
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

This was a disturbing video -- but you would think that this Voat guy would have recorded the phone calls with Alefantis making these explicit threats against him and his family? In any event, these texts, if truly coming from Alefantis, certainly show a guy throwing his 49th most powerful man in DC weight around -- hardly the "nice" guy and hapless victim of a false conspiracy the NYT and WaPo are trying to paint him as in their "debunking" articles.

This thread is interesting: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1546248

He posted this and then deleted this! http://archive.is/A5UbV http://archive.is/tLvDY

James Alefantis's phone number was in the vid. How do I know it's James Alefantis? Because of this: http://archive.is/4JDnk.

The number was linked to Comet Ping Pong in 2007 by a user called james! number is 202 285 0567

TargeT
8th January 2017, 03:04
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

This was a disturbing video -- but you would think that this Voat guy would have recorded the phone calls with Alefantis making these explicit threats against him and his family? In any event, these texts, if truly coming from Alefantis, certainly show a guy throwing his 49th most powerful man in DC weight around -- hardly the "nice" guy and hapless victim of a false conspiracy the NYT and WaPo are trying to paint him as in their "debunking" articles.

This thread is interesting: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1546248

He posted this and then deleted this! http://archive.is/A5UbV http://archive.is/tLvDY

James Alefantis's phone number was in the vid. How do I know it's James Alefantis? Because of this: http://archive.is/4JDnk.

The number was linked to Comet Ping Pong in 2007 by a user called james! number is 202 285 0567


Look, I'm not convinced this is 100% real.. it COULD be faked... so that's in my mind.

This is, unfortunately, anecdotal... I wonder if someone familiar with body language could look at this... the telling of it (so close to the incident of him actually being "super scared") seems a bit too matter of fact.

I hate to be like this.. but burnt once, twice shy...

Here's how you fake text messages:

(from Iphone)
http://iphonefaketext.com/


so... grain of salt 'n all that.

Does the iphone time and time that the "voat" or "youtube" video got took down line up?

I'd investigate this more, but honestly, I'm already convinced on the Comet Pizza owner.. don't need to.


This seems, maybe attention grabby... he's just not offering anything new other than "omg look at this" type of stuff



I know the Alt communtiy pretty well by this point (not as long as some, but long enough)

I could make **** like this left and right, I could probably make a LOT of money off the "alt community" if I had lower ethical standards (or maybe desperation)....

/constantskeptic

Debra
8th January 2017, 07:17
I've seen this guy post a fair bit on Voat. Didn't realise he was going as far as to contact James Alefantis...

EZQxYQ49p0U

Thanks for this video 7alon. If indeed this exchange did happen and it certainly seems to be the real deal to me, then this is pretty scary. It deserves to be bumped for further analysis and commentary.

THANKYOU

This was a disturbing video -- but you would think that this Voat guy would have recorded the phone calls with Alefantis making these explicit threats against him and his family? In any event, these texts, if truly coming from Alefantis, certainly show a guy throwing his 49th most powerful man in DC weight around -- hardly the "nice" guy and hapless victim of a false conspiracy the NYT and WaPo are trying to paint him as in their "debunking" articles.

This thread is interesting: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1546248

He posted this and then deleted this! http://archive.is/A5UbV http://archive.is/tLvDY

James Alefantis's phone number was in the vid. How do I know it's James Alefantis? Because of this: http://archive.is/4JDnk.

The number was linked to Comet Ping Pong in 2007 by a user called james! number is 202 285 0567


Look, I'm not convinced this is 100% real.. it COULD be faked... so that's in my mind.

This is, unfortunately, anecdotal... I wonder if someone familiar with body language could look at this... the telling of it (so close to the incident of him actually being "super scared") seems a bit too matter of fact.

I hate to be like this.. but burnt once, twice shy...

Here's how you fake text messages:

(from Iphone)
http://iphonefaketext.com/


so... grain of salt 'n all that.

Does the iphone time and time that the "voat" or "youtube" video got took down line up?

I'd investigate this more, but honestly, I'm already convinced on the Comet Pizza owner.. don't need to.


This seems, maybe attention grabby... he's just not offering anything new other than "omg look at this" type of stuff



I know the Alt communtiy pretty well by this point (not as long as some, but long enough)

I could make **** like this left and right, I could probably make a LOT of money off the "alt community" if I had lower ethical standards (or maybe desperation)....

/constantskeptic


Great points TargeT

Then again, this might be his insurance policy as well to lay it out up front in plain sight, which is still scary but IF something physical does happen, and I don't wish that of course, then Alefantis would indeed be dragged up first.

Though if what Hervé has posted further up about the FBI being totally useless with their gathered data on these networks, what hope has anyone have in tabling evidence these days. The system is so stacked against real justice. Very depressing.

Is Alefantis - if this allegation is true - just brazen and confident of protection? Within this picture, we cannot ignore also the child sex age laws that are being primed in the State of California that Onawah has also brought to our attention.

Point is, what can we do about this because leaving this in the hands of the agencies is clearly not enough. This depravity continues. Wholesale.

lucidity
8th January 2017, 08:58
Quick question: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?
Does anyone know what this percentage is ?

Question 2: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
And you grow up to become a child sex abuse offender.
Statistically, on average, how many children will you abuse ?

If you listen to David Icke (and others) this problem is rampant, it's everywhere.
I'm wondering if this problem will only grow and grow over time.
Perhaps each victim has (say) a 50% chance of becoming an offender as an adult.
And maybe each adult creates ... (say) .. 12 victims.
In which case, it's a problem that can only explode in the years ahead.
Everything depends on it's transmission rate.

be happy

bennycog
8th January 2017, 09:57
Quick question: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?
Does anyone know what this percentage is ?

Question 2: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
And you grow up to become a child sex abuse offender.
Statistically, on average, how many children will you abuse ?

If you listen to David Icke (and others) this problem is rampant, it's everywhere.
I'm wondering if this problem will only grow and grow over time.
Perhaps each victim has (say) a 50% chance of becoming an offender as an adult.
And maybe each adult creates ... (say) .. 12 victims.
In which case, it's a problem that can only explode in the years ahead.
Everything depends on it's transmission rate.

be happy

Good question Lucidity :) and it is a hard hitting very emotional one to a lot of people i would imagine.

I was abused as a child (not sexually) but mentally and physically on a huge scale.. too many stories to put right here.

As an adult i have only hit my children twice. both of these times were because they put themselves in great danger. For example running out on the road without looking or wandering off too far without thinking about it.

These couple of times have done enough to let my children see the dangers in life, remember what can happen to them because of what i have told them around the time they got smacked, and to respect the hazards that are there for every child.

I do not know if i am one of a few that have been through total and horrible abuse and have come out of it with a clear mind or not but i am hell sure that it has not affected me in a bad way toward my children :)

Bu heaven forbid anyone else put harm on them ... then maybe bad things would happen.

lucidity
8th January 2017, 10:19
Quick question: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?
Does anyone know what this percentage is ?

Question 2: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
And you grow up to become a child sex abuse offender.
Statistically, on average, how many children will you abuse ?

If you listen to David Icke (and others) this problem is rampant, it's everywhere.
I'm wondering if this problem will only grow and grow over time.
Perhaps each victim has (say) a 50% chance of becoming an offender as an adult.
And maybe each adult creates ... (say) .. 12 victims.
In which case, it's a problem that can only explode in the years ahead.
Everything depends on it's transmission rate.

be happy

Good question Lucidity :) and it is a hard hitting very emotional one to a lot of people i would imagine.

I was abused as a child (not sexually) but mentally and physically on a huge scale.. too many stories to put right here.

As an adult i have only hit my children twice. both of these times were because they put themselves in great danger. For example running out on the road without looking or wandering off too far without thinking about it.

These couple of times have done enough to let my children see the dangers in life, remember what can happen to them because of what i have told them around the time they got smacked, and to respect the hazards that are there for every child.

I do not know if i am one of a few that have been through total and horrible abuse and have come out of it with a clear mind or not but i am hell sure that it has not affected me in a bad way toward my children :)

Bu heaven forbid anyone else put harm on them ... then maybe bad things would happen.

Hi Bennycog,

I don't think it's necessary for the abuse to have been sexual,
for that abuse to be 'transmitted' some N years down the line.
(I'm not suggesting that you think that it is necessary -- i'm just thinking out aloud)

I remember conversations i had with a senior HR manager
about the problem of staff turnover and it's connection to management
bullying. It turns out that very often, bullying managers were previously
bullied. They quite 'unconsciously' hand the abuse back to innocent
bystanders some X years later.

I'm betting these managers, or child abusers (sexual and non-sexual) don't make
the connection between receiving abuse in the past and giving abuse in the present.

What can we do to reduce the transmission rate of abuse (of all kinds) ?

=> Provide counselling for the victims of abuse so that they adjust and
normalise quickly (perhaps this will reduce the rate of their own offending later)

=> Mindfulness meditation or a 10 Day vipassana course would be great for
helping victims get some of that stuff off their chest and become more aware
of their own feelings and cognitions. Meditation has been shown in numerous studies
to be very emotionally stabilising ... for everyone.

=> Keep a database register of abuse victims... and add to that DB details of
the victim's fingerprints, blood type and DNA data. Make this data available to
the police as a victims' DB. (This will help with the detection of victims that
flip into offenders). There are civil liberties issues here, however.

be happy :)

lucidity
8th January 2017, 10:35
wow.. I've just been reading an article about abusers and victims in Psychology Today.

Here's how they describe the behavioural tendencies of abusers:



• Underreport, hide, minimize, or justify their abusive behavior
• Describe themselves as victims
• Feel abused when their partners disagree with them or don't do what they want
• Label their partners' behavior as abusive
• Attribute malevolent intent to their partners' positive behavior (manipulative, deceptive)
• Pathologize their partners (emotional or personality disorder, incompetence)
• Use negative labels (nag, irrational, hysterical, lazy, unreliable)
• Have great difficulty describing their partners' perspectives
• Show little or no compassion
• Exhibit self-righteousness

And here is how they describe the behaviours of victims:



• Underreport or hide their partners' abusive behavior
• Not label obviously abusive behavior as abuse
• Blame themselves in part for the abuse they reveal
• Make excuses for the abuser's behavior
• Bend over backwards to see the abuser's perspective
• Describe the abuser at least partially in sympathetic terms
• Exhibit self-doubt


source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/anger-in-the-age-entitlement/200905/the-line-between-victims-and-abusers

bennycog
8th January 2017, 10:37
Quick question: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?
Does anyone know what this percentage is ?

Question 2: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
And you grow up to become a child sex abuse offender.
Statistically, on average, how many children will you abuse ?

If you listen to David Icke (and others) this problem is rampant, it's everywhere.
I'm wondering if this problem will only grow and grow over time.
Perhaps each victim has (say) a 50% chance of becoming an offender as an adult.
And maybe each adult creates ... (say) .. 12 victims.
In which case, it's a problem that can only explode in the years ahead.
Everything depends on it's transmission rate.

be happy

Good question Lucidity :) and it is a hard hitting very emotional one to a lot of people i would imagine.

I was abused as a child (not sexually) but mentally and physically on a huge scale.. too many stories to put right here.

As an adult i have only hit my children twice. both of these times were because they put themselves in great danger. For example running out on the road without looking or wandering off too far without thinking about it.

These couple of times have done enough to let my children see the dangers in life, remember what can happen to them because of what i have told them around the time they got smacked, and to respect the hazards that are there for every child.

I do not know if i am one of a few that have been through total and horrible abuse and have come out of it with a clear mind or not but i am hell sure that it has not affected me in a bad way toward my children :)

Bu heaven forbid anyone else put harm on them ... then maybe bad things would happen.

Hi Bennycog,

I don't think it's necessary for the abuse to have been sexual,
for that abuse to be 'transmitted' some N years down the line.
(I'm not suggesting that you think that it is necessary -- i'm just thinking out aloud)

I remember conversations i had with a senior HR manager
about the problem of staff turnover and it's connection to management
bullying. It turns out that very often, bullying managers were previously
bullied. They quite 'unconsciously' hand the abuse back to innocent
bystanders some X years later.

I'm betting these managers, or child abusers (sexual and non-sexual) don't make
the connection between receiving abuse in the past and giving abuse in the present.

What can we do to reduce the transmission rate of abuse (of all kinds) ?

=> Provide counselling for the victims of abuse so that they adjust and
normalise quickly (perhaps this will reduce the rate of their own offending later)

=> Mindfulness meditation or a 10 Day vipassana course would be great for
helping victims get some of that stuff off their chest and become more aware
of their own feelings and cognitions. Meditation has been shown in numerous studies
to be very emotionally stabilising ... for everyone.

=> Keep a database register of abuse victims... and add to that DB details of
the victim's fingerprints, blood type and DNA data. Make this data available to
the police as a victims' DB. (This will help with the detection of victims that
flip into offenders). There are civil liberties issues here, however.

be happy :)

Hey :)

Always be happy :)

I am sure there are countless instances where abuse as a child can come into play, someone who has fallen into the darkness they were under at an earlier age and released it when they may not be expecting to.

If they do not have the right avenue to discuss it or vent it, then yes things can happen. I am very soon about to host an event that i started last year after my brother passing. An event to try to bring these demon offences out into the open so people can stop treating it as taboo.. All funded by myself.. And reluctantly but clearly do a speech in front of many.

I promised my brother i would do this for him. I rarely go back on a promise.

lucidity
8th January 2017, 11:22
Quick question: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?
Does anyone know what this percentage is ?

Question 2: If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
And you grow up to become a child sex abuse offender.
Statistically, on average, how many children will you abuse ?

If you listen to David Icke (and others) this problem is rampant, it's everywhere.
I'm wondering if this problem will only grow and grow over time.
Perhaps each victim has (say) a 50% chance of becoming an offender as an adult.
And maybe each adult creates ... (say) .. 12 victims.
In which case, it's a problem that can only explode in the years ahead.
Everything depends on it's transmission rate.

be happy

I found a paper which supplies data related to my first question:


If you were a child sexual abuse victim..
What are the chances (as a percentage) that you'll go on to become a child sex abuse offender ?

See this paper:
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482

The male victim-to-victimiser table of statistics are here:
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/highwire/markup/46006/expansion?width=1000&height=500&iframe=true&postprocessors=highwire_figures%2Chighwire_math%2Chighwire_inline_linked_media%2Chighwire_embed

They basically took 747 male child abusers.
They asked the following questions:
Were you a victim of paedophilia (only) ?
Were you a victim of incest (only) ?
Were you a victim of both incest and paedophilia ?

Here are the results:
paedophilia (only) : 61%
incest (only) : 51%
paedophilia and incest : 75%

Interestingly, this pattern isn't the same for women.
Women have a very low rate of becoming paedophiles.

Unfortunately, interesting though this data is,
it doesn't actually answer my question.... because...
I want to know what percentage of sexually abused children, go on to become abusers.
But this data is telling me what percentage of abusers were abused as children.
Which is looking at the question from the 'other' perspective, that of an adult abuser.

For example, it might be true, despite the data above, that only 1 child in 100
goes on to become an abuser.

be happy :)

Addendum:
But in any case, if you wanted to pursue similar questions
this journal might be a good source of information:

https://www.journals.elsevier.com/child-abuse-and-neglect/

lucidity
8th January 2017, 16:34
I've just watched this video ... which clearly shows the vice-president of the USA,
Joe Biden, clearly groping young girls... in public... on camera. It's unbelievable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXjWAr2zZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKjuTv85Maw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPepm9booSI

Probably regulars on this thread already knew about this but
it's all pretty shocking news for me.

Hervé
8th January 2017, 18:28
Predators given a free pass: UN peacekeepers won't be charged despite rape accusations by over 100 children (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/un-peacekeepers-child-sex-abuse/)

John Vibes The Free Thought Project (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/un-peacekeepers-child-sex-abuse/)
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s18/369295/large/dj_vu_in_the_central_african_r.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/369295/full/dj_vu_in_the_central_african_r.jpg)


It was recently reported that UN peacekeepers will not be charged for sex crimes against children that they allegedly violated while they were stationed in the Central African Republic. The French Government investigated the French soldiers who were accused of the attacks, but they found no evidence of wrongdoing, as often happens when organizations investigate their own. French prosecutors claim that they had insufficient evidence to charge the soldiers, but over 100 children have leveled accusations against them. Do they expect the world to believe that all of these children are lying?

UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said that the agency defers to local governments in situations like this.

"So obviously we'll keep an eye on this. But as we've said, it is the responsibility of member states to fully investigate and hopefully prosecute crimes. The fight against impunity for these horrendous actions has to be a partnership between the UN and member states,"Dujarric said. (http://www.dw.com/en/no-charges-in-french-military-child-sex-abuse-inquiry/a-37031422)

There is a second investigation that is currently ongoing which involves UN peacekeepers and sexual assault in the Central African Republic. However, it is not clear whether or not this investigation is relating to the same accusations — or new crimes that have taken place since.

This is not the first time that UN workers have been accused of these types of crimes. After the UN has entered areas like Cambodia, Mozambique, Bosnia, Sudan and Kosovo, there was an explosion of sex trafficking and numerous reports of abuse. In the past several years, the UN was caught attempting to cover-up the fact that there were 231 people in Haiti (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/peacekeepers-sexually-assaulted-women-children-haiti-relief-missions/#LgxQCUUiESyHWgM8.99) who claimed they were sexually violated by UN peacekeepers, and were forced to perform sexual acts in exchange for food and supplies that were intended as relief packages.
SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/339007-Predators-given-a-free-pass-UN-peacekeepers-wont-be-charged-despite-rape-accusations-by-over-100-children) There are so many instances where UN peacekeeping forces have been caught acting more like predators (https://www.sott.net/article/313696-U-N-Peacekeepers-go-on-rape-spree-in-21-countries-no-prosecutions-are-made) than protectors of human rights. Even more egregious is that their abuses are systematically covered up (https://www.sott.net/article/296024-United-Nations-has-a-history-of-covering-up-abuse-by-peacekeeping-forces) - which suggests these armies are being protected by the PTB to further their own agenda.
There are almost too many cases to list in which high-profile public figures or organizations were accused in pedophilia or human trafficking cases. However, they almost always dodge any prosecution or public scrutiny due to their control of the legal system and media.

There have been many cases in recent history where establishment figures have been caught up in child prostitution rings but quickly had the story swept under the rug.

One such case was on June 29, 1989, when the Washington Times' Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald reported on a Washington D.C. prostitution ring that had intimate connections with the White House and President George H.W. Bush. It was suspected that this was connected with the Franklin prostitution ring (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtstlx96s8M) that was being exposed at the same time, in a different part of the country.

That story involved the manager of the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union in Nebraska. His name was Lawrence "Larry" King and he was also a prominent politician. Various unconnected victims accused him of transporting them around the country to be used as sex slaves for politicians. When the accusations finally came to light, the victims were railroaded out of court and threatened into recanting their statements, thus making themselves guilty of perjury in the process.
SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/339007-Predators-given-a-free-pass-UN-peacekeepers-wont-be-charged-despite-rape-accusations-by-over-100-children)
For a more complete history of the Franklin scandal, see:
"The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse, and Betrayal": An Interview with Nick Bryant (https://www.sott.net/article/233555-The-Franklin-Scandal-A-Story-of-Powerbrokers-Child-Abuse-and-Betrayal-An-Interview-with-Nick-Bryant)
A Dangerous Movie - The Franklin Scandal by Nick Bryant (https://www.sott.net/article/236071-A-Dangerous-Movie-The-Franklin-Scandal-by-Nick-Bryant)
The perjury was unfortunately enough to drop the case and actually send some of the victims to jail. The truth of the matter didn't come out until former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp went back to reexamine the case and discovered that the accusations were indeed true.

Human trafficking is an industry of the ruling class, it always has been. Your average blue-collar, white-collar people aren't buying slaves, and they certainly aren't selling them either! This is still very much a part of western culture, even companies with major government contracts have been accused of organizing full-scale slave rings. These companies have not only been protected by their governments, but they were also able to keep the contracts and subsidies that they had prior to the accusations.

Some of the world's largest multinational corporations such as DynCorp and Halliburton were exposed as major players in the global human trafficking market. These companies did not work alone, but cooperated with each other through various subsidiaries and had the luxury of government protection.

When suspicion was brought upon these companies it was swept under the rug by government officials. Even high-ranking members of the establishment such as Donald Rumsfeld were implicit in covering up this scandal. On March 11th 2005, he was questioned by Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr2oQExxGmU) and he admitted on the record that the allegations did have credibility, but he pushed the blame off onto a few "rogue" employees. He used the "few bad apples" line that the government always dishes out when they are caught up in a scandal.

Although Rumsfeld and other high-ranking officials claimed that they would look into the situation, they actually prevented any serious investigations from taking place. This happens every day, even organizations like the UN and NATO have come under fire for running slave rings out of third world countries when they are on "peacekeeping missions."
SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/339007-Predators-given-a-free-pass-UN-peacekeepers-wont-be-charged-despite-rape-accusations-by-over-100-children)
The above instances are only a few examples showing the depth of sexual deviancy that exists within elite circles, which have been systematically concealed for years. As the Pizzagate scandal threatened to expose the widespread nature of these practices, the ruling elites went into overdrive using the fake news meme in a desperate attempt to bury the story (https://www.sott.net/article/336339-Graphic-shows-how-MSMs-fake-news-strategy-was-designed-to-short-circuit-Pizzagate).

Pizzagate: Podesta pedo perps and Clinton's international child sex trafficking ring exposed (https://www.sott.net/article/335512-Pizzagate-Podesta-pedo-perps-and-Clintons-international-child-sex-trafficking-ring-exposed#)
Global pedophile rings hiding in plain sight (https://www.sott.net/article/335633-Global-pedophile-rings-hiding-in-plain-sight)
Jeffrey Epstein: A 'sex slave' scandal that exposed elite pedophile rings (https://www.sott.net/article/330734-Jeffrey-Epstein-A-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-elite-pedophile-rings)
Norwegian #Pizzagate BUST: 51 pedophiles, including lawmakers, arrested on child abuse charges (https://www.sott.net/article/336342-Norwegian-Pizzagate-BUST-51-pedophiles-including-lawmakers-arrested-on-child-abuse-charges)
Pedophile rings are enormous and pervasive among the world's elites (https://www.sott.net/article/321602-The-real-EU-Powerhouse-and-protection-mechanism-for-pedophile-elite)
The real EU: Powerhouse and protection mechanism for pedophile elite (http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/18415)
Belgium's X Files: Dutroux Affair Uncovered Pedophile Networks (https://www.sott.net/article/242624-Belgiums-X-Files-Dutroux-Affair-Uncovered-Pedophile-Networks)
Pedophile prostitution trial implicates Netherlands elite, royalty (https://www.sott.net/article/316833-Pedophile-prostitution-trial-implicates-Netherlands-elite-royalty)
Child sex rings reveal unspeakable acts of power elite (https://www.sott.net/article/255051-Child-sex-rings-reveal-unspeakable-acts-of-power-elite)

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See this thread as well: While you were out… business as usual (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27790-While-you-were-out---business-as-usual)

A few more "dots" to connect whichever way one wishes, in terms of military traditions:
Athens: Cradle of Pedophilia and Mind Control (http://henrymakow.com/2016/11/athens-cradle-of-pedophilia.html)

Who is Kay Griggs? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57036-Who-is-Kay-Griggs&highlight=Kay+Griggs%3A)

Athenian, Ideal Greek Tribes were the model for the Tribes of Israel (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86384-Here-The-So-called-Word-Of-God&p=1122555&viewfull=1#post1122555)

Army training 'more harmful than the war' - veterans (https://www.child-soldiers.org/news/army-training-harmful)

MKultra heirs (https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/01/08/isis-shows-preschooler-killing-victim-tied-to-carnival-ball-pit//?singlepage=true)

ThePythonicCow
9th January 2017, 04:48
Here's an article that describes Ryan Youtube video about Alefantis' Pegasus Museum, the original of which Ryan took down, after threats from Alefantis: https://www.intellihub.com/youtuber-claims-pizzagate-pegasus-kill-room/

The reuploaded copy of Ryan's video, as posted above by Eram in Post #146 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94769-Pizzagate-pedophilia-in-American-elite--with-links-to-related-threads-&p=1125012&viewfull=1#post1125012) is still available on Youtube.

Hervé
9th January 2017, 16:20
Tip of the iceberg: Interpol says ICSE database helped identify 10,000 child sex abuse victims over past 5 years (https://sputniknews.com/military/201701091049398690-interpol-sex-abuse/)

Sputnik (https://sputniknews.com/military/201701091049398690-interpol-sex-abuse/) Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:30 UTC



https://www.sott.net/image/s18/369450/large/1022856010.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/369450/full/1022856010.jpg)
© AFP 2016/ ROSLAN RAHMAN


Interpol's International Child Sexual Exploitation (ICSE) database has identified 10,000 victims of child sex abuse around the world since 2011, the press service of the organization said Monday.

The ICSE database was created in 2011 and 49 countries are maintaining access to it.

"Whilst we are pleased to have assisted law enforcement around the world identify and rescue 10,000 victims of child abuse, this is just the tip of the iceberg," Interpol Secretary General Jurgen Stock said as quoted in a statement by the press service.

According to the statement, the ICSE database enables Interpol's experts to use sophisticated image and video comparison software to find connections between locations, abusers and victims.

"In one case, officers in the UK were able to identify and arrest a suspected abuser and rescue the victim just 10 hours after images were shared via the ISCE database," the press service said.

===============================================

So, really, what's that FBI doing (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94769-Pizzagate-pedophilia-in-American-elite--with-links-to-related-threads-&p=1125750&viewfull=1#post1125750)?

Hervé
9th January 2017, 20:03
[...]
===============================================

So, really, what's that FBI doing (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94769-Pizzagate-pedophilia-in-American-elite--with-links-to-related-threads-&p=1125750&viewfull=1#post1125750)?

Well, here is from another investigation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93959-Rigging-the-Election-DNC-Hillary-s-multi-front-assault.&p=1126122&viewfull=1#post1126122):


"Due to the extremely sensitive nature of this investigation and the damage its disclosure could cause, the case will be designated as a prohibited investigation in accordance with Counterintelligence Division Policy Implementation Guide," the report states.

So, THEIR problem is to define "damage" and to "whom." That is, is their bread going to still be buttered both sides...

ramus
10th January 2017, 19:25
HERE IS MORE ON PEDOPHILIA, LET'S KEEP THIS TOPIC ALIVE !

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5jznpc/according_to_the_fbi_pedophi
lia_and_child_sex/

Was anyone else under the impression that pedophilia is fairly uncommon? I tried
to list every major pedophilia related bust that I could, and I’m simply
shocked. Surprisingly, a large number of these were not reported nationwide, or
at all. A lot of the links are from local news outlets, and many are government
websites. These stories need more coverage. People need to realize what we’re
actually dealing with here.

May 16, 1977 "Delta Project" Chicago is found to be center of national child
porn ring

Jun 24, 1987 Head of the UN's Children's fund in Belgium resigns after linked to
child porn ring

Apr 13, 1989 Ex-boyscout leader and ex-priest charged in child porn ring

Mar 3, 1991 3 men charged for creating hundreds of child porn videotapes and
abducting children

Jul 17, 1996 16 worldwide indicted on child porn charges

Sep 3, 1998 44 suspects worldwide arrested for child pornography ring

Aug 12, 1999 15 charged for family run, multi-state child prostitution ring, 27
minors recovered

Oct 27, 2000 1500 child porn users tracked worldwide

Jan 10, 2001 "Operation Cathedral" More than 100 involved in child porn ring
arrested in UK

May 26, 2001 "Operation Blue Orchid" 4 Americans and 5 Russians arrested in
child porn investigation

Aug 8, 2001 "Operation Avalanche" 100 arrested in child porn bust in Texas

Aug 9, 2002 "Operation Hamlet" 20 arrested in international ring headquartered
in Fresno, 45 victims identified. 1 million child porn images seized

Feb 9, 2004 6 men charged in Illinois child porn ring

April 5, 2006 Homeland Security official arrested in child sex sting

2007 “Operation Flicker” 264 pentagon employees implicated in child porn ring of
5,200 people

May 17, 2007 Six east coast men charged in child sex trafficking scheme

Jun 18, 2007 10 involved in child porn ring arrested in Delaware

Jun 23, 2008 "Operation Cross Country" 21 children rescued, 356 arrested for
child prostitution

Oct 1, 2008 121 involved in child porn ring arrested in Spain

Oct 27, 2008 "Operation Cross Country II" 47 kids rescued from prostitution, 642
arrests

Feb 9, 2009 ”Operation Joint Hammer" 170 arrested in ongoing international child
porn investigation

Feb 23, 2009 "Operation Cross Country III" 48 Children recovered, 571 arrested
for child prostitution

Aug 31, 2009 "Operation Twisted Traveller" 3 'child sex tourists' arrested

Oct 26, 2009 "Operation Cross Country IV" 700 arrested, 52 children recovered
from child prostitution

Sep 3, 2010 Portuguese politicians among 6 found guilty of preying on children
in state-run orphanages

Jul 2, 2010 ”Operation Nest Egg" 50 people arrested, 38 convicted on child sex
abuse in ongoing investigation

Nov 9, 2010 "Operation Cross Country V 69 children rescued from child
prostitution

Mar 16, 2011 "Operation Rescue" British police expose 70,000 members of a
pedophile network, save 230 children, arrest 184 worldwide

Jul 7, 2011 Child pornography found on Assistant U.S. Attorney's computer

Aug 3, 2011 "Operation Delego" 72 arrested for child pornography distribution
and creation throughout 10 countries

Nov 11, 2011 After his death, Jimmy Saville found to have abused more than 500
children

Jun 25, 2012 "Operation Cross Country VI" 79 children recovered, 100 pimps
arrested for child trafficking

Jan 3, 2013 “Operation Sunflower" More than 200 people arrested in international
child porn ring, 123 victims identified

Jul 19, 2013 "Operation Cross Country VII" 105 children recovered, 152 pimps
arrested for child trafficking

Nov 14, 2013 "Project Spade" 348 child porn arrests made worldwide, 386 kids
rescued, 45 terabytes of child porn seized

Dec 3, 2013 D.C. police officer charged with producing child porn

Dec 11, 2013 Washington DC police officer accused of producing child porn on
duty found dead

Dec 11, 2013 2 D.C. cops accused of "pimping teens"

Mar 19, 2014 "Operation Round Table" 14 arrested for sexually exploiting over
250 children nationwide + 5 foreign countries

May 21, 2014 "Operation Caireen" Rabbi, nurse, police officer among 70 In
massive sweep

June 20, 2014 D.C. police officer admits prostituting girls

June 23, 2014 "Operation Cross Country VIII" FBI recovers 168 children and
arrested 281 pimps from sex-trafficking rings across the U.S.

Jul 5, 2014 At least 40 UK politicians complicit in alleged Westminster
'pedophile ring' – report

Jul 24, 2014 "Operation Predator Alert" Total of 28 charged in ongoing child
pornography investigation

Oct 16, 2014 "Operation Darknet" 55 arrested in child porn ring, including
teachers, priests, and at least one member of the military

Oct 30, 2014 11 people involved in international child porn ring sentenced to
prison

May 6, 2015 "Project Hydra" 41 arrested in Ontario child porn ring

May 20, 2015 "Operation Hydrant" British celebrities and politicians among over
1,400 suspected in child-sex-abuse scandal

Jun 3, 2015 "Operation: L and P" 101 people arrested in sex predator sting
including Disney World employee

Jul 24, 2015 Philly restauranteur arrested and charged in child porn scheme

Oct 14, 2015 "Operation Cross Country IX" 149 children recovered, 153 pimps
arrested for child sex trafficking

Oct 17, 2015 81 people involved with child pornography ring arrested in Spain

Jan 5, 2016 "Operation Torpedo" rescues 6 children and sentences 19 to prison in
nationwide investigation

Jan 7, 2016 "Operation Kingdom Conqueror"21 involved in nationwide child porn
ring arrested

Jan 27, 2016 "Operation Malaise" 12 arrested involved in child porn ring in
Canada

Apr 6, 2016 "Operation Safeguard" Teacher & school bus driver among 16 arrested
in New Jersey child porn sweep

Apr 10 2016 "Operation Pacifier" 135 people in 18 states arrested on child
pornography charges

Apr 28, 2016 80 people charged in Canadian child porn ring, 870 victims in
Ontario, another 173 internationally

April 29, 2016 Former Speaker of the House of Representatives Dennis Hastert
'serial child molester' sentenced to 15 months in prison

May 5, 2016 "Operation Wild Fire" 5 arrested in child prostitution sting

May 10, 2016 "Operation Subterfuge" 9 arrested in Tennessee child porn ring. 300
US victims, 1600 worldwide

May 20, 2016 “Operation Someone Like Me" 2 ministers and 30 others arrested for
child prostitution and trafficking

Jun 7, 2016 7 arrested for child prostitution in Aurora Colorado

Jun 22, 2016 19 involved in child porn and solicitation arrested in Texas

Jul 4, 2016 "Operation No Borders" 79 arrested involved in international child
porn ring

Jul 7, 2016 "Operation Broken Heart" More than 1,300 suspected child sexual
predators arrested nationwide

Jul 11, 2016 13 arrested in Spokane, Washington child sex abuse sting

Aug 11, 2016 ”Operation Baby Face" 50 children rescued from trafficking in
California

Aug 18, 2016 "Operation Statewide" 40 people arrested in New Jersey child porn
crackdown

Oct 3, 2016 5 arrested in San Francisco child porn ring

Oct 11, 2016 56 arrested in Spain involved with child pornography ring

Oct 19, 2016 "Operation Cross Country X" FBI rescues 82 children, arrests more
than 200 in sex trafficking sting

Oct 26, 2016 "Operation Deep Connection" 7 people behind massive child porn ring
arrested in Italy

Nov 10, 2016 Chinese police arrest 300 child predator and pornography suspects,
over 30 victims

Nov 21, 2016 “Twittergate” Twitter user identifies 23,000 accounts associated
with child porn

Nov 23, 2016 "Operation Darkroom" 150 Terabytes of child porn seized in Norway

Dec 7, 2016 Four face charges in suspected Quebec child pornography ring

Dec 14, 2016 "Operation Underground Railroad" 10 arrested in child predator
sting

Dec 21, 2016 "Operation Safe Holiday" 36 Texas men caught sexually exploiting
children

Dec 21, 2016 37,000 child rape images and videos found at ex-USA gymnastic
doctor's home

7alon
11th January 2017, 03:16
Alefantis being investigated by FBI after threatening researcher Ryan O'neal https://vid.me/oQeS (any way to embed vids besides youtube?)

ThePythonicCow
11th January 2017, 04:54
(any way to embed vids besides youtube?)

No way in most cases, with our current vBulletin forum software ... sorry. You can find more comments on this question in another thread started today: Questions re embedding Twitter and Vidme videos? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95376-Questions-re-embedding-Twitter-and-Vidme-videos)

The Freedom Train
11th January 2017, 05:13
ym6TWmXw_fE

Flowerpunkchip
11th January 2017, 11:48
ym6TWmXw_fE

I hesitated to watch the entire video. At 22min I was in some sort of pain.

I can't add much except that I feel very sorry for both the cannibal and the willing victim. Both suffered terribly feeling abandoned. But neither of these 2 men were abused as much as some people we may know and yet they end up growing up wanting fulfil the most outrageous of fantasies. It's nuts/crazy/shocking.

So what outrageous fantasies could SOME victims of worst abuses would want to fulfil?
So sad.

7alon
11th January 2017, 15:45
Kill Room location video removed due to Copyright claims by James A. Alefantis https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1555551

Looks like the threat against the Pizzagate researcher was real.

https://i.sli.mg/LAcbok.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3-UHwhK3T4&feature=youtu.be

The Freedom Train
13th January 2017, 04:43
It will be interesting to see what, if anything, will transpire in the way of investigations, court hearings, and legal actions.

After quite a bit of research, I have found that we have many instances of cover-ups over the years when investigations and allegations involve the highest circles. So I am not exactly sure why people still have faith in the FBI to properly investigate and prosecute - that is unless they think there has been some kind of changing of hands in the departments leading to an increase in their freedom to finally blow the whistle on what has been going on (at the very least) since the Athenians and their pederasty practices.

It seems that any arrests are, at best, made to take out "sacrificial lambs" of the elite circles, and are more usually focused on the lower echelons of society.

With all that being said, I cannot deny the possibility that somehow, justice will be served - by a Divinely guided hand.

Curious77
13th January 2017, 19:40
Presume someone has archived the original video?
Still a lot of progress being made on investigating various DC buildings
connected to the core group stemming out from Podesta's emails and
Hillary's Clinton Foundation and connections to Laura Silsby who was
caught attempting to take 34 children (who had parents and who were
not orphans) out of Haiti.
Amazing stuff going on in the lineup of stores in the same area as Comet
Pizza -- below which there is a large system of tunnels.
And, as Detective Jim Rothstein notes at the end of the interview of him
by Prof. Jim Fetzer, investigations have not as yet included the Military.
Tunnels pass right by Pentagon.

I'm sure you're all familiar with what I'm talking about --
but just in case . . .

http://truthfeed.com/breaking-clinton-foundation-tied-to-convicted-child-trafficker-laura-silsby-media-silent/34146/
Silsby is now working for a contractor for US government -- Amber Alert and she has a new last name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cnT5amf6Ys

Tunnels are amazing --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA
and there are others it seems.

THIS is also interesting re CIA involvement from day #1 --
but evidently after homosexuality was no longer quite as blackmailable as it had
been earlier, they began to move to pedophilia.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1546920

1950s: Origins of the CIA's "Pedophile Academy"




Here is the author's Wikispooks page: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Jo%C3%ABl_van_der_Reijden“Oh we do have our stable of weird people working for us. Did I ever tell you about the Pedophile Academy? We actually had one down at Camp Peary, (in Virginia) right near (the CIA’s) Jim Critchfield’s place. I don’t know if you’re aware of it, but we called it ‘The Farm,’ and it was supposed to be a secret training center for young agents. Allen Dulles set up this training center down there for pedophiles. They were in training to seduce, molest, and most especially photograph the young children of targets. Not only, Allen reasoned, would our graduates have a spanking good time but they could get wonderful action photos of the wee ones to blackmail their families with. I understand they broke it up when one of the graduates nailed a (CIA) Deputy Director’s son at a summer camp.”
•Robert Crowley, CIA Domestic Contracts Division 1959-1962; Assistant Deputy Director of Operations (ADDO) 1980

Source: 50 years of CIA history with top "Company" man Robert Crowley: JFK, RFK, MLK, guns, drugs, blackmail, coups and all the rest


And --
Also, an interesting article here I picked up from another website --


Psychiatric textbooks states that around 94% of the violent pedophiles were young victims too, most of the times offered by their own families (fraternity ties, well, that's their mind).

I just posted a link of an expert explaining this Modus Operandi. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1561644

Curious77
13th January 2017, 19:51
Alefantis seems pretty well up there as 49th most influential person in DC --
with 5 visits to Obama White House -- one on the same days as Laura Silsby.

The guy who did the video actually filed a police report and supposedly it will
be investigated. And, it's illegal to file a false police report.

Curious77
13th January 2017, 20:23
The witness, Silmi, gets really aggravated when he is challenged by the lawyer who
points out that he had been in at Comet Pizza only an hour before the attack, yet he
is willing to swear that everyone there are "good people," evidently based wholly on
the fact that they work there and make a minimum wage -- and because it's a private
business. Ridiculous. Looks like as fake as the "gunman."

I think the strongest reaction came from him when asked about the "art" on walls at
Comet. Don't think he was prepared for that and think he was a bit betrayed by his own
conscience there as if he was familiar with the art and that it did point to pedophilia and
violence.

Meanwhile . . .

The "gunman" attack seemed a fake immediately and some have investigated.
You have to get to page 3 and 4 on Yahoo before you find any challenges to this story . . .

This is a report on the fakery --
https://nworeport.me/2016/12/06/pizzagate-man-arrested-in-comet-ping-pong-restaurant-shooting/


Coincidentally, the traffic cameras were shut down hours before the "gunman" showed up at Comet.

The video below covers the event at the Comet Pizza shop which many are speculating to be some sort of “false flag” event.

Strangely, the traffic cameras outside the restaurant appear to have been moved and cut off just hours before the gun man arrived.

Police say they have identified the gunman as 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina. He has been charged with assault with a dangerous weapon.

According to the latest reports, he pointed a gun at a restaurant employee, who fled and notified authorities. The gunman then discharged the weapon inside the restaurant. There were no injuries.

Two weapons were found inside the restaurant and a third one was recovered from the man’s vehicle, according to Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department

Welch also reportedly admitted he had gone to the restaurant to investigate claims Clinton and her campaign chief John Podesta were running a child sex ring from the restaurant’s backrooms, police said on Sunday evening.

The initial reports have been changing since yesterday and apparently the event was even reported before it happened.

There are also suggestions that the gunman is a known actor.

Russia Insider points out that the father of the alleged “gunman” served as the Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, a national, non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children.

Those familiar with Pizzagate, will see how this is a remarkable coincidence. The fact that Welch worked for his father’s production company, Forever Young Productions, and has also spent time in Haiti (doing the same kind of charitable work that the Clintons are involved in, no doubt), just raises more red flags.


hmmmm....

onawah
14th January 2017, 19:17
More "good people" that Alefantis is friends with...
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ks_eOBb8FB8

onawah
16th January 2017, 19:11
Meeting at Comet Pizza
From:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95487-Project-Veritas-Exposes-Jan.-20-Inauguration-Plots&p=1127869&viewfull=1#post1127869
...thanks to bsbray
MHZSfhd1X_8

Ewan
16th January 2017, 20:45
It seems incredible to me that after all this time, all the history that is widely known, and that almost every human alive in the culturally modern arena, will have heard the term 'Divide and conquer', it is as alive and well as it ever was.

America is spectacularly divided at this moment.

lilac
16th January 2017, 21:03
see that? Onawah? time of your post: 11:11, posts: 7171; thanked in 6001 posts. Here is a place where 2 threads cross. I have been weaving threads lately. I mean, I find that one thread explains another. At this crossing of Trump vs "pedos", I am weaving threads about timelines, missing money, mysterious deaths. I am wondering if these numerical oddities mark changes in the timeline. On the day Trump was elected, I saw 11:11 3 times.

onawah
16th January 2017, 21:21
I have no answer to any numerology questions, Lilac, but I don't think Trump is part of the pedophile elite, at least, even though he no doubt does have a Brian Epstein connection.
I think he is calling on powerful people in the financial sector more because his connections with all powerful sectors are tenuous in that he is not really an insider (including the political) and is a maverick of sorts.
He apparently does have ties to the Vatican that have gone relatively unnoticed, but it remains to be seen how strong those ties are ( inasmuch as the Vatican appears not to be in such a powerful position at present).
See:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94907-Trump-is-NOT-the-answer&p=1123278&viewfull=1#post1123278
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1123782&viewfull=1#post1123782
So what will follow is probably anybody's guess, supposing he survives.
And that too, it appears, remains to be seen. inasmuch as there are many who would like to see him "gone".

lilac
17th January 2017, 03:35
I agree, Trump is not involved in the pedo ring, but rather, due to his (sun/uranus in gemini) shake-up of the whole establishment - has got that beehive swarming. The unseemly behaviour of Hollywood actors and celebrities really makes me wonder about the extent of these underground tunnels. Looking at the inauguration chart as the birth chart of his presidency, it has challenges (mars square saturn, moon in scorpio 6th house), but also a great deal of support (venus exalted in pisces). Maybe he'll have to be inaugurated as a hologram, lol, but I think he'll be with us for a while. Interesting times!

onawah
17th January 2017, 04:27
Underground tunnels, downtown Washington D.C.
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Just two of the many, many vids on youtube about pizzagate now.

A Voice from the Mountains
18th January 2017, 06:52
So this made it onto a local news station in Atlanta, thanks to a beast local reporter named Ben Swann:

-LHmq7F8GtU

Hervé
18th January 2017, 15:13
Content Warning: Member of DC Anti-Fascist Coalition penned defenses of adult-child sex in late 1990's (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-17/member-dc-anti-fascist-coalition-penned-defenses-adult-child-sex-late-1990s)

William Craddick Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-17/member-dc-anti-fascist-coalition-penned-defenses-adult-child-sex-late-1990s) Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:31 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361804/large/cometpingpong.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s18/361804/full/cometpingpong.jpg)


WARNING: certain links below contain graphic descriptions of sexual relations with minors. Reader discretion is advised.

On January 16th, 2017, journalist James O'Keefe and Project Veritas released the first part (https://vid.me/1JRn) of footage they had shot documenting attempts by the Anti-Fascist Coalition to commit acts of civil disobedience and protest during Donald Trump's Presidential Inauguration on January 20th.

The video reveals that during the investigation Project Veritas journalists met undercover with members of the Anti-Fascist Coalition, Luke Kuhn and Scott Green, at Comet Ping Pong to discuss ways to disrupt the "Deploraball (http://deploraball.com/)" Inauguration event. Comet Ping Pong is a Washington D.C. pizza parlor which gained notoriety in late 2016 when online activists accused its owner, James Alefantis, of participating in child human trafficking. The scandal has been termed "Pizzagate" by the media.

Disobedient Media has obtained information indicating that Luke Kuhn made a number of posts online advocating for the legalization of pedophilia. Mr. Kuhn made the posts while a member of the Utopian Anarchist Party (UAP) during the late 1990's. The Utopian Anarchist Party has been identified in other online postings as having links to international child pornography and child exploitation.

On June 19, 1998, Mr. Kuhn made a usenet post in alt.anarchism (http://archive.is/97aly)where he advocated for teenage sex.

A February 2005 post (http://archive.is/edyCB) references Mr. Kuhn's post and links the text of it in it's entirety. It also encourages people to search archive.org for archived versions of overthrow.com to find more posts by Mr. Kuhn.

A pair of usenet posts made on June 12, 1998 to dc.general (http://archive.is/aisfQ)(Part 1) and alt.anarchism (http://archive.is/HepJ3) (Part 2) made several days before the above post by Mr. Kuhn names him in a discussion of "Adult-Child Sex Advocates."
Your boy Luke has been prowling the chickie-hawk/kid-porn scene on the internet and advertising your group's name in the process. Why is this?

Have you and your pals no shame? I mean this is pretty firm evidence of the predilecition towards pedophilia by the UAP.

Can you now deny the child-porn/pedophilia connection of the UAP without asking Luke? Or is it your ludicrous claim that Lukie Boy-Predator was just doing UAP missionary work? The posts also contain the following explicit statement:
It has been demonstrated in the last several days that there is a documented connection between the UAP and a link to international child porn and sexploitation. On September 22, 1997, Mr. Kuhn also made a post to tomcspotlight.org (http://archive.is/vC0mE)titled "Ronald McDonald the child-molesting clown."

A May 8, 2008 article from freerepublic.com (https://archive.is/eWqby) listed Luke Kuhn as being a "well known radical" whose home was searched by the Washington D.C. police as part of an investigation into domestic terrorists. Mr. Kuhn also was discovered to have made a posting on alt.engr.explosives (http://archive.is/mB16u) on the topic of "Making nitric using ammonium nitrate instead of Na or K nitrate."

This article was originally posted at www.disobedientmedia.com (http://disobedientmedia.com/member-of-dc-anti-fascist-coalition-penned-defenses-of-adult-child-sex-in-late-1990s/)

onawah
18th January 2017, 21:46
One astute comment on the youtube page: "The yellow tape was already up, before Welch was arrested. Unheard of, especially if they are concerned about being shot. That event was also reported before it had taken place by Benjamin Freed. I believe it was staged by friends of Alefantis. Recently there was an inauguration plot uncovered at Comet too. "
The latter, of course, is referring to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8&t=28s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbkYLI1nY

So this made it onto a local news station in Atlanta, thanks to a beast local reporter named Ben Swann:

-LHmq7F8GtU

A Voice from the Mountains
19th January 2017, 01:08
One astute comment on the youtube page: "The yellow tape was already up, before Welch was arrested. Unheard of, especially if they are concerned about being shot. That event was also reported before it had taken place by Benjamin Freed. I believe it was staged by friends of Alefantis. Recently there was an inauguration plot uncovered at Comet too. "

Bombard's Body Language channel on YouTube analyzed Alefantis' body language for when he spoke to the press after that event, and she noted that he put very deliberate emphasis on saying that it was an example of what would come of the Pizzagate conspiracy theories. So her impression was that Alefantis knew in advance that it was going to happen and that it was being used to try to suppress discussion. Just one more data point that fits in with all the others.

7alon
19th January 2017, 02:38
One astute comment on the youtube page: "The yellow tape was already up, before Welch was arrested. Unheard of, especially if they are concerned about being shot. That event was also reported before it had taken place by Benjamin Freed. I believe it was staged by friends of Alefantis. Recently there was an inauguration plot uncovered at Comet too. "
The latter, of course, is referring to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8&t=28s
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbkYLI1nY

So this made it onto a local news station in Atlanta, thanks to a beast local reporter named Ben Swann:

-LHmq7F8GtU

What a coincidence that it is no longer available to watch the pizzagate segment on the cbs site http://www.cbs46.com/clip/13036440/reality-check-is-pizzagate-fake-news

A Voice from the Mountains
19th January 2017, 19:14
Yeah, that's one of the videos that you might want to save to your hard drive. There's been a lot of information purges lately.

I use a Firefox add-on called "YouTube Video and Audio Downloader" that lets me download YouTube videos with a single click. I have lots and lots of videos, websites and images saved in regards to Pizzagate. I have it stored to external hard drives and soon I'm going to burn it all to DVDs, along with a lot of other conspiracy-related data, since DVDs can even survive an EMP.

Cidersomerset
19th January 2017, 20:32
Interesting vid............

(2017) PIZZAGATE EXPOSED BY FORMER CIA - NEW EXPLOSIVE
EVIDENCE - PIZZA GATE IS REAL! MUST WATCH!

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Published on 17 Jan 2017
Watch a former CIA agent expose pizza gate. Pizzagate is real!

onawah
19th January 2017, 20:56
Awesome! :bump: :bump: :bump:

A Voice from the Mountains
19th January 2017, 21:15
I also asked this in another thread, but does anyone think all these recent revelations are not a sign of a major positive change to come in the West?

TargeT
19th January 2017, 21:25
I also asked this in another thread, but does anyone think all these recent revelations are not a sign of a major positive change to come in the West?

the first step to dealing with a problem is admitting there is one ;)

onawah
19th January 2017, 21:43
I certainly could be, but it's not over yet.
As the ex CIA senior officer Steele pointed out, the Rothchilds have a lot more money than Trump, and if they wanted to, could probably still make things very difficult for him.
there are others who would certainly like to help them, too.
( I kept feeling like there was something very strange going on when Trunp kept shooting himself in the foot during the campaign, and Steele's explanation made a lot of sense to me.)
But if the truth prevails, it could signal major changes, and just in time for the planet, too.
I'm not sure how Trump might be able to get all those very individualistic Cabinet members he has appointed to do his bidding, but it will be interesting to see what happens.

I also asked this in another thread, but does anyone think all these recent revelations are not a sign of a major positive change to come in the West?

A Voice from the Mountains
20th January 2017, 00:10
( I kept feeling like there was something very strange going on when Trunp kept shooting himself in the foot during the campaign, and Steele's explanation made a lot of sense to me.)

Steele said some stuff that didn't add up for me, that being one of them. Trump has had his whole life as a billionaire to become a sell-out and one of the Warren Buffets or Bill Gates of the world, and he never did. He's always done things on his terms, and his book Art of the Deal he harps on the merits of honor even when it causes you to lose money. In fact he did lose lots of money during this election. He's also been talking about running for president since the late 80s/early 90s, precisely because he didn't like seeing the direction the country was taking and said he would put the well-being of the country before his own well-being if it came down to it. He risked assassination (at least 2 attempts during the campaign) and everything else to get where he is now.

The other thing he said that didn't add up for me was that the Republican party was going to go down because of pedophilia charges and so Trump would lose Congress in the next elections. I don't doubt that Republicans are involved, but if this guy hasn't realized by this point that Hillary Clinton and lots of Democrats are at least as involved, if not more involved, then he has his head up his ass. The Democratic party by all measures is the party on life support and under threat of extinction as a viable national party at this point, and even party leaders and the MSM occasionally acknowledge it. If the pedophilia stuff comes out mainstream then you can bet it will wipe out establishment figures on both sides of the aisle. It was the Clinton Foundation trafficking children out of Haiti and Syria.

I don't get what he means by "electoral reform" either, but if he's talking about the electoral college, I wish he would elaborate because there is a very specific reason why the electoral college exists and it goes back to states' rights and the founding of our nation as a republic, not a pure democracy, which the founding fathers abhorred and considered equivalent to mob rule. The electoral college gives each state the same relative weight to one another as the House of Representatives does. It's meant to prevent states like California and New York from determining what happens in the rest of our country, no matter how hard they rabidly vote for people like Hillary Clinton. States are supposed to have much more authority in general than what they have been reduced to today, and local governments are supposed to be more powerful as well. It's all about returning sovereignty and power as close to the individual as possible, rather than rendering it to the mob mentalities in big cities.

onawah
20th January 2017, 01:44
There may be an explanation for that, if the Republicans react more strongly to discovering that leaders in the RNC have been involved in pedophilia than Democrats will react to the same news about their own leaders.
Though it will certainly wipe out figures on both sides, if it really goes public.

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The other thing he said that didn't add up for me was that the Republican party was going to go down because of pedophilia charges and so Trump would lose Congress in the next elections. I don't doubt that Republicans are involved, but if this guy hasn't realized by this point that Hillary Clinton and lots of Democrats are at least as involved, if not more involved, then he has his head up his ass. The Democratic party by all measures is the party on life support and under threat of extinction as a viable national party at this point, and even party leaders and the MSM occasionally acknowledge it. If the pedophilia stuff comes out mainstream then you can bet it will wipe out establishment figures on both sides of the aisle. It was the Clinton Foundation trafficking children out of Haiti and Syria.

A Voice from the Mountains
20th January 2017, 05:14
There may be an explanation for that, if the Republicans react more strongly to discovering that leaders in the RNC have been involved in pedophilia than Democrats will react to the same news about their own leaders.

So what you're suggesting is that the Republicans could become more disgusted at the revelations and then either switch their votes to Democrats or abstain from voting at a greater rate than Democrats. I'm not sure that that's going to happen. Though I talk to a lot of Republican voters and I don't know of anyone who actually likes John McCain or Lindsay Graham, or even Paul Ryan. I think those are the types who are going to be exposed and many of us will be glad to see them go, and hopefully replaced with Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz types.

When you look at the left, people like Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Chuck Schumer, they may be the Democrats' answer to the John McCains and Lindsay Grahams (Pelosi being tied to a dirty money-laundering pizza shop of her own in California, with "goat" in the title of it no less), but where is the Democrats' answer to Trey Gowdy? I don't see them realistically attracting any better turnout than they have in recent years, which has only seem them lose more and more seats in federal Congress as well as state congresses. Since 2008 they have lost more and more every year and they still haven't got the message and still push the same failing ideologies.

Btw, this election has caused me to go back and look at the Democratic party throughout our history, and it goes back fundamentally to the idea of promoting a powerful federal government over the states and eroding the Constitution by a simple majority vote. A pure democracy means 50% + 1 vote determines what we do as a country, previous laws be damned. It means Obamacare is fine despite the fact that the Constitution explicitly forbids the federal government from ever passing such a sweeping mandate upon the whole population, being clearly outside of the feds' numerated powers. That is where our country has been pushed to. It's also historically related to Jacobinism during the French Revolution, and, not surprisingly, Marxism, socialism and communism, none of which really have any respect for personal liberty at the end of the day.

Anyway, a lot of people say "once CIA, always CIA." I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule but the guy in the above video said one too many things that don't add up for me to take anything he says for granted.

7alon
21st January 2017, 03:41
Jim Rothstein of NYPD being interviewed by Prof. Jim Fetzer about Pizzagate

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Kerry Cassidy
22nd January 2017, 21:58
Hi Natalie,

I am assuming you saw my latest live show about this and Tompkins: SHOW RE TOMPKINS & THE EFFORTS TO CONTROL DISCLOSURE!!
http://youtu.be/QJxGdppZyLU

As far as interviewing Bob Wood about this I would be happy to and was thinking of contacting him about this recently.

Keep in mind Mark Richards has actually written to some degree about the Rep side of this in his papers published by his wife Jo Ann Richards specifically in the BATTLE OF VESTA as I recall... http://edhca.org/

And the satanic details have long been out there including the Svali material: http://projectcamelotportal.com/2008/04/09/a-tribute-to-svali-illuminati-whistleblower/

I don't think it's so necessary to linger on the details of human sacrifice and ritual (see human sacrifice by tribes going back in time as well) so much as the need to begin to understand the meaning of it all.

In essence we have several PREDATORY races some of whom are linked to us through DNA and our so-called Reptilian brain as you know. How do we live with them is the question? That is what we need to be considering. Warning our children is surely the first step. You can't wipe them all out because too many humans are steeped in the Rep DNA/Bloodline now to jettison them all off the planet!! Instead it's time to view the existence of predators towards humans with a more discerning eye. We need as a result to be warriors of light not "workers" and begin to chart our own course in this way. Raising your vibration helps as does being physically fit and having second sight or spiritual awareness on all levels. Figure this is the way of the Cosmos and the challenge of life on the 3d/4d. Predators force a species to refine itself and rise to the challenge. See this not as a victim but as a challenge for further development and advancement.

I see waking people up to the ET/alien/inner earth races and their presence as key to warning them about the both good and bad aspects of this as paramount to human development and progression. Not all ETs are our friends. Not all humans work on behalf of humanity. This is the world we inhabit as spirits having a material existence. We came here for the challenge. I agree that being in denial as to the negative does nothing to enlighten anyone and does not protect our children.

Kryztian
22nd January 2017, 23:50
Hi Natalie,

I am assuming you saw my latest live show about this and Tompkins: SHOW RE TOMPKINS & THE EFFORTS TO CONTROL DISCLOSURE!!
http://youtu.be/QJxGdppZyLU


Kerry, in your December interview with William Tompkins, you discussed the matter of pedophilia and it's connection to world wide secret power and occult ritual. He seemed reluctant to go into the topic, I think partly, because it was such a big topic and he had much to say about it. But he also confirmed that this is a real issue and a real problem for humanity.

Do you think this was why he cancelled his last interview with you, because this information had to be contained and someone was afraid this would be a major topic in your next interview???

Kerry Cassidy
22nd January 2017, 23:53
Hi Natalie and everyone,

I am assuming you saw my latest live show about this and Tompkins: SHOW RE TOMPKINS & THE EFFORTS TO CONTROL DISCLOSURE!!
http://youtu.be/QJxGdppZyLU


Kerry, in your December interview with William Tompkins, you discussed the matter of pedophilia and it's connection to world wide secret power and occult ritual. He seemed reluctant to go into the topic, I think partly, because it was such a big topic and he had much to say about it. But he also confirmed that this is a real issue and a real problem for humanity.

Do you think this was why he cancelled his last interview with you, because this information had to be contained and someone was afraid this would be a major topic in your next interview???

It sounds like you haven't watched my live show linked on my post! The answer is there.

Best wishes,

Kerry

onawah
23rd January 2017, 03:48
I didn't think Kerry's youtube video here;
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...was working, but if you wait for a little while, it does.

onawah
23rd January 2017, 04:50
Ryan O'Neal, who received death threats from James Alefantis, is interviewed here:
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PizzaGate Gets Real, The Opperman Report Interviews Threatened Investigator 1/18/17

Hervé
2nd February 2017, 13:20
Ben Swann's Truth in Media site down, Twitter, Instagram, FB accounts gone (http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2017/02/01/ben-swanns-truth-in-media-site-down-twitter-instagram-fb-accounts-gone/)

Rodney Ho AJC (http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2017/02/01/ben-swanns-truth-in-media-site-down-twitter-instagram-fb-accounts-gone/)
Thu, 02 Feb 2017 11:36 UTC


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This was posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 by Rodney Ho on his AJC Radio & TV Talk blog

CBS46 evening anchor Ben Swann today blocked his "Truth in Media" website and dropped his primary Twitter (https://twitter.com/BenSwann_) and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/benswann_/?hl=en) feeds, as well as his Facebook "Truth in Media" page (https://www.facebook.com/TruthInMediaProject/), which had 427,000 plus followers.

But he hasn't entirely disappeared off social media. He managed to keep a different Facebook page alive (https://www.facebook.com/BenSwann/?fref=ts), one that only has 1,800 followers. The last time he posted on this site was January 17, the morning before he aired his "Reality Check" about Pizzagate which went viral and led to a week-long suspension. He came back on air on CBS46 this past Monday.

Swann was hired by CBS46 in June, 2015 as an evening anchor. He had been running his Truth in Media project since 2012 and his station bosses allowed him to maintain the site, which for a time included most of his "Reality Check" pieces he aired on CBS46.

Here was his Twitter site yesterday:


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Here it is today:


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He has fashioned himself as a bit of a renegade, someone willing to take different angles on new stories that most mainstream reporters wouldn't touch.

Swann has built a fervent following in the alt-right world. In fact, his Facebook page under the name "BenSwannRealityCheck" is the one with more than 427,000 followers.

Critics have fashioned his approach as that of a conspiracy buff with The Daily Beast popping a tin-foil hat on his head (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/18/meet-ben-swann-the-republican-pizzagate-truther-hosting-atlanta-s-cbs-nightly-news.html). (That reporter also discovered ties between his Truth in Media site and an Republican PAC.)

Swann's January 17 Pizzagate story, which was a resurrection of a rumor that a Hillary Clinton aide had run a child pornography ring out of a D.C. pizza parlor, questioned why nobody has done a full investigation while not appearing to do any independent reporting of his own. Plus, the story had no Atlanta angle and was clearly geared to his Truth in Media audience more than the CBS46 audience.

The story was seen nearly 1 million times on his Facebook page before the page went dark.

His fans cheered him on since he happens to be part of the mainstream press and gave that story sustenance by even taking five minutes of airtime to talk about it. And now they are wondering if there is (gasp!) a conspiracy behind all his pages disappearing (http://www.theeventchronicle.com/cabal-exposed/happened-ben-swann-pizzagate-report/#).

The Truth in Media site, before it was locked from public view, posted a vast majority of the "Reality Check" segments he did for CBS46.

It was here:


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Now it's not:


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It's clear his bosses forced Swann to take down his social media accounts. But it's unclear what the future of his Truth in Media project will be.

He actually warned his readers several days in advance that he was "going dark." It's possible this gave folks a chance to save a lot of his work themselves before he took the sites down.


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Related:
Ben Swann: The only mainstream TV anchor investigating Pizzagate (https://www.sott.net/article/340083-Ben-Swann-The-only-mainstream-TV-anchor-investigating-Pizzagate)

Octavusprime
3rd February 2017, 02:46
AJ and JR talk alot about Pizzagate in this new podcast...

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Hervé
7th February 2017, 15:02
From Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/baasepagev3.html):

BLOCKBUSTER: I WAS RIGHT ABOUT CHILD SMUGGLING IN HAITI

Remember the post yesterday that Glenn Beck put up about a bust of child smugglers in the Caribbean? WELL, as it turns out, it was real and it happened in Haiti, and there is a very good chance Hillary Clinton is involved.

PIZZA GATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So without further comment I am going to post my original report on this topic:

Originally posted on Nov 18 2016
Monica Petersen, a woman who according to her friends who are searching for answers, was investigating the Clinton foundation for child trafficking and was found dead from "suicide" in Haiti

I thought this had to be hoax news. But it turned out to be true when the foundation Monica worked for held funeral services in Haiti. Monica Petersen had a friend named Bella Robinson who has confirmed that Monica was investigating child trafficking under front cover of a "gold mine" in Haiti that was affiliated with Hillary's brother. Monica was a truther, who wrote this blog post. (http://thehaitianblogger.blogspot.mx/2015/03/hillary-clintons-scandalous-conduct-in.html) I have confirmed that Monica was working undercover for the Human Trafficking Center, (http://humantraffickingcenter.org/) which investigates child thefts and that the Clintons really were likely to have been running a child trafficking ring under the cover of a false front gold mine in Haiti. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/role-of-hillary-clintons-brother-in-haiti-gold-mine-raises-eyebrows/2015/03/20/c8b6e3bc-cc05-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html)

The Child Trafficking Center has now held a quiet funeral ceremony for Monica in Haiti. At the time of this post, Monica's family has not been able to get any details about what happened leading up to this, but Bella claims to have information and is refusing to give the details on how Monica "committed suicide" saying instead that "it is inappropriate to post it" and to message her. So we have a key source of info who probably voted for Clinton that just can't get a grip on the fact that if this is real she had better blow it open now, or she's going to be dead too.

onawah
8th February 2017, 03:17
Haiti Police Rescue 31 Girls in Child-Trafficking Sting
Monday February 6, 2017
Defense, Traffickinghttp://sentinel.ht/2017/02/06/haiti-police-rescue-31-girls-child-trafficking-sting/
(The language used in the following video is Haitian, but possibly there will be translations available at some point.)
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COTE-DES-ARCADINS (sentinel.ht) – 31 minors, all girls aged 13-17, were rescued in an anti-child-trafficking sting operation undertaken by the Haitian National Police on Sunday. Among the arrested were 9 adults, foreigners, including missionaries among them.
How 31 children were able to pass hotel administrators and staff to be kept in one room is being investigated by police.
All 31 children were being held in a single room, number 155, at the Kaliko Bay Hotel in Côte-des-Arcadins. The adult suspects were in Room 158 when they were arrested. How all the girls were able to pass hotel administrators and staff to be kept in one room is being investigated by police, according to Inspector Gary Desrosiers. The hotel owner, a driver of a bus that transported the children and some caregivers were held by police.

The investigation began in December and remains ongoing to uncover the true breadth of the operation that appears to include non-governmental organization and international elements. Assistance was given by fellow missionaries to police, which aided in the operation.

Investigators believe the syndicate was preparing to take the children over the Dominican Republic border to then leave the island. Police and other public officials are also investigating possible sexual exploitation being that all the minors were female.

Conservative Radio Host Glenn Beck, who visited a children’s refuge in Haiti in December, to pass out Christmas gifts, tweeted about the police operation hours in advance. This information is part of boatloads of “circumstantial” evidence that ConspiracyTalk‘s ongoing reporting into the U.S. political scandal, PizzaGate, reported.

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Big op going down in 2 hours. 20 plus kids. Youngest is 10 and has been filmed the last couple years in child porn videos. #rescueslaves
10:24 AM - 5 Feb 2017

Charles Harris
8th February 2017, 04:02
Elvis and Jimmy!

TrumanCash
8th February 2017, 18:50
Former Freemason Grand Master facing ten years in jail after being caught in sting by police as he waited to meet 14-year-old boy (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4193914/Former-Freemason-caught-child-sex-sting-police.html)

A former Freemason Grand Master is facing jail after he was caught in a police sting trying a lure a child into sex.

Alan Wright, 75, regularly went to meetings at Freemasons Hall in St James Street London.

He was described as a 'significant' figure of the organisation which is also popular with Prince Michael.

Wright was arrested last November at Bury St Edmunds railway station in Suffolk, the Express reported.

He thought he was there to meet a 14-year-old boy he'd talked to online, and sent pictures of his private parts.

But instead when he arrived he was greeted by Suffolk police, who'd set up an online sting after gathering information on Wright's private life.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4193914/Former-Freemason-caught-child-sex-sting-police.html#ixzz4Y7ZShXNy
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A Voice from the Mountains
9th February 2017, 21:31
There is some very important info here tying the Haitian orphanage Nos Petits Frères et Sœurs to Alefantis and Brock: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1632804

7alon
10th February 2017, 00:21
Looks like Podesta is in trouble :)

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onawah
12th February 2017, 18:04
PIZZAGATE NEW EVIDENCE 2/11/17
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Anthony Weiner Pedophile Sexting Scandal
End Times News Report
Published on Feb 8, 2017
(Warning: The detail that this goes into is gross--I couldn't listen to most of it, but it certainly leaves no room for denial that Weiner is guilty.)

Disgraced Congressman Anthony Weiner is set to face federal charges for child pornography and sexting with a 15 year old girl. Graphic details of the sex scandal
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New Arrests, Sessions Sworn In, Vault 7 Tweets

Streamed live on Feb 8, 2017
Massive child trafficking arrests, the confirmation of Jeff Sessions, and a cryptic tweet from Wikileaks are some of the big new developments this week which could determine the future of the PizzaGate.
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KiwiElf
13th February 2017, 07:14
Pizzagate Arrests: FBI Arrest Hundreds In Child Sex Trafficking Sting

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1895-pizzagate-arrests-fbi-arrest-hundreds-in-child-sex-trafficking-sting

Nationwide operation sees 100s arrested across 14 states
By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 12th February 2017 @ 11.44am

The nationwide sex trafficking sting saw 100s arrested across 14 states.
The FBI has conducted a huge nationwide sting operation that has seen over 500 arrested in connection with human trafficking offenses in what appears to be the first wave of Pizzagate related arrests.

Among the hundreds arrested, are said to be police officers, firefighters, and state officials. The operation involved 23 different law enforcement agencies across the US and targetted sex trafficking and pedophile rings. The huge bust also saw over 70 juveniles and adults rescued from being illegal bought and sold for sex.

The operation was said to have gathered a lot of its intel during the Super Bowl, which, unfortunately, has become a haven for human traffickers as they use the distraction as a shield for illicit activity. In a press release from the Illinois Sheriff's Department, Sheriff Thomas J. Dart said; "Sex trafficking continues to destroy countless lives, and this broad national movement should send a strong message" "It's particularly meaningful that this sting culminated on the day of the Super Bowl, which unfortunately has emerged as a prominent haven for sex trafficking." "I'm exceedingly proud to lead the nation in targeting sex buyers and traffickers" "We made it clear that there is no place for victimization and sexual exploitation."

Following the swearing in of Jeff Sessions as the new Attorney General, President Trump immediately signed a new executive order giving federal law enforcers extra powers to deal with human traffickers. An anonymous whistleblower had revealed that the FBI had applied for arrest warrants to begin making high-level arrests once Sessions was sworn in as the new AG, with many hoping to see high-level arrests take place immediately after.

It seems now that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is working with a different strategy as they quietly make lower-level arrests as they most likely build a case and gather intel to begin making bigger arrests. Hopefully, we should start to see more sting operations over the coming weeks that will eventually lead right to the top of the elite Washington D.C. pedophile ring.

After all, something this big couldn't realistically happen overnight.

Read more at: http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1895-pizzagate-arrests-fbi-arrest-hundreds-in-child-sex-trafficking-sting
© Neon Nettle

Hervé
13th February 2017, 12:07
[...]
It seems now that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is working with a different strategy as they quietly make lower-level arrests as they most likely build a case and gather intel to begin making bigger arrests. Hopefully, we should start to see more sting operations over the coming weeks that will eventually lead right to the top of the elite Washington D.C. pedophile ring.
[...]
Yeah...this is still a "Damage Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control)" operation since few individuals can grasp the sophistication of the "elite" networks and operations which can build orphanages (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control&p=833191&viewfull=1#post833191) with all logistics for smuggling the "chosen ones" all prepared in advance of a not-yet-declared war and rip the "benefits" of said war... apparently it never fails to work according to "plan."

PathWalker
13th February 2017, 20:14
Please read this article from http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.co.il/2017/02/confirmation-visible-progress-toward.html
CONFIRMATION - Visible Progress toward Massive Pedophilia Ring Take-downs - Videos, Links, and Commentary

...

So Our FBI anon friend who predicted PizzaGate has allowed me to interview him with ten short questions. This is BIG. It looks like the #PizzaGate scandal is going to bring down some sick Senators, Congressmen, Wall Street bankers, Journalists and other assorted demonic creatures.
I asked him some questions and I did not expect the answers I got ! Fully one third of our Government is a Pedoring!

Child Sex Trafficking through Child “Protection” Services Exposed – Kidnapping Children for Sex (http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.com/2016/11/child-sex-trafficking-through-child.html)
Q: Back in July, you astounded the world by predicting #PizzaGate when you posted on 4chan. How did you know?

A: We did not predict PizzaGate. What we did do is point out that the Clinton Foundation had and has deep ties to a network of pedophiliacs.Its now slowly coming to light with the new revelations regarding Epstein and Weiner. There is lots more to come. We also got some things wrong. The VP pick, and honestly, we did not expect WJC to survive into 2017.

Q: You were laughed at when you first posted, but 95% of what you stated ended up being true. How does it feel to be vindicated?

A: We expect that. 4chan was the right environment to engage those on the “edge world” as we call it. Some considered our message to be a LARP. Thats fine. We threw in some false paths to ensure plausible deniability. However, when internet sleuths and citizen journalists began hunting for confirmation of our claims, we achieved the spiral effect we were seeking.

Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble - VT and Keshe Take the Lead in Breaking the Most Insidious Human Trafficking Gang on the Planet
(http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.com/2016/12/largest-pedophile-ring-in-history-70000.html)
Q: Can you tell us what to expect in the near future?

A: We expect some movement next week. High level arrests of close to 3 dozen pedophile politicians, some who are quite well known. Another 42 people also expected to be arrested in the drag net. 72 in all.

Q: But why pre-announce on 4chan? Doesn’t that compromise the sting?

A: There is furious push back to not make arrests. There are internal and nefarious forces attempting to thwart the operation. The cesspool called DC is one big extortion arena. Our politicians are either being extorted for being pedophiles, or they are in the pocket of Bankers, Big Oil, Israel or Saudi Arabia. If Israel and the Saudis can no longer extort politicians for their sexual deviance, where do they make their money and wield their influence? If bankers cannot stop the destruction of their puppet politicians, how do they keep the “fix” in place? Our alphabet agencies are compromised. Our homeland security and defense apparatus has become politically corrupted.How can we stand by while our powerful leaders impose law on one hand, and sexually abuse our children with another?

REVEALED - How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring - Links, Video, and Commentary (http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.com/2016/11/how-thatchers-government-covered-up-vip.html)


Q: Good points. So, is PizzaGate connected to the West Coast.

A: There is serious connection. Not necessarily connecting to the arrests we hope to see next week, but you may want to look into CES, and also NP and see if that politician has any Pizzadust on their shoes.

Q: Nancy Pelosi?

A: No comment

Q: Can you provide some more initials of politicians being investigated?

A Sure BF, MB, TK, DF, JM, LG There are also journalists, pundits, money men, lobbyists.Many are being tracked down and are about to be exposed, arrested, drained. Some may off themselves when they realize they risk prison, ruination, loss of power, etc.

Q: Can you tell us where active Political pedorings in America exist now?

A: In every state. The main concentration is in the East and in the West. In the East, NYC, the resort towns, and of course DC. Out west, Hollywood, Beverly Hills,Napa Valley, Marin County.

Reports: Democratic Representative Anthony Weiner Facing Child-Porn Charges
(http://discerningthemystery2000plus.blogspot.com/2017/02/reports-democratic-representative.html)
Q: Ok, so wealthy areas. But why is nothing done about it?

A: It’s covered up. Law Enforcement takes their orders from the DC power brokers. AG’s, police chiefs, etc are ordered to cover up the Pedophile rings and their players.Law Makers are allowed to be Law Breakers, because they create the law and rule over those that enforce the law. We believe that the NOBODY is above the law.


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Hughe
14th February 2017, 02:36
Will the Trump government jail thousands of monsters?

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Bluegreen
14th February 2017, 03:14
Will the Trump government jail thousands of monsters?

Maybe

MSM

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1871-hundreds-arrested-across-los-angeles-in-massive-pedophile-ring-bust
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/massive-online-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/01/29/bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/

KiwiElf
15th February 2017, 12:37
Crossposted on 2 x other threads - please refer to OP link below ;)

Pizzagate: Elite Pedophile Ring 'Child Sex Pimp' Arrested

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1904-pizzagate-elite-pedophile-ring-child-sex-pimp-arrested

Pedo responsible for 'pimping out young boys to rich donors'
By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 14th February 2017 @ 5.23pm

Attorney general Jeff Sessions oversees more arrests made in connection with Elite pedophile rings. State police in Pennsylvania have just arrested a man for multiple accounts of sexually abusing minors, but now evidence has emerged that the man arrested was part of a family network that was responsible for supplying elite pedophile networks with children.

Full story at link

BMJ
15th February 2017, 15:20
Attorney general Jeff Sessions oversees more arrests made in connection with Elite pedophile rings. State police in Pennsylvania have just arrested a man for multiple accounts of sexually abusing minors, but now evidence has emerged that the man arrested was part of a family network that was responsible for supplying elite pedophile networks with children.

Nice find Kiwielf. :sun: And so now the house of cards will begin to fall.

Ba-ba-Ra
15th February 2017, 17:57
Elijah Wood: Hollywood Is Run By A Powerful Elite Pedophile Ring

Elijah adds his voice to Corey Feldman's who came out previously with the same allegations. Perhaps, this time, something will be done about it.

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1888-elijah-wood-hollywood-is-run-by-a-powerful-elite-pedophile-ring

Hervé
16th February 2017, 01:44
Flashback: Illuminati Pedophiles Rule Society (https://www.henrymakow.com/when_illuminati_shills_fear_ex.html)

By Henry Makow February 15, 2017


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Pizzagate is further evidence that the Western world is run by the Illuminati, a Masonic Jewish criminal cult of sociopaths, pedophiles and child murderers.

We repost a story that describes what happened in 1994 when three lawyers exposed this hidden power in Vancouver BC.

At the same time, we plug Kevin Annett's book Unrelenting (https://www.createspace.com/6052421) on the murder of 50,000 Indian youth which cites witnesses who say that Pope Francis, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Royals are also involved in satanic ritual abuse.

From May 7, 2008
by Henry Makow Ph.D.

Under a thin veneer of Law, we are governed by a secret network of traitors, pedophiles, Satanists and criminals, masquerading as prominent lawyers and judges, journalists, politicians, businessmen and police chiefs.

They are often Freemasons who derive their power from the central banking cartel based in London UK which controls the mass media and seeks to impose its tyranny in the guise of "world government."


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/renate.jpg


If you don't believe me, you've probably never heard the names Renate Andres-Auger, (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestarphoenix/obituary.aspx?pid=179508261) (above) Jack Cram and Bruce Clark. They are Vancouver lawyers who were dragged from the courtroom, drugged, disbarred and committed to a mental asylum when they attempted to expose this clique in the 1990's.

CITY CONFIDENTIAL
Beautiful Vancouver B.C., site of the 2010 Winter Olympics, was described by the Christian Science Monitor in 1997 as "a pedophile paradise," a place known for its "notorious sex trade," with an international reputation "as a city where it is easy to find a child for sex." In 1999, UNESCO named Vancouver one of the world's top three centers for sex trafficking, child porn and pedophilia because of "suspected judicial protection for child sex offenders."

In 1994, Renate Andres-Auger, an aboriginal lawyer and single mother of six girls, found irregularities in a land claim case that were very damning to the judicial process. She also charged certain judges and lawyers with a criminal conspiracy to aid and protect pedophiles. She and her own lawyer Jack Cram presented evidence, including photographs and eye witness accounts that two Supreme Court judges were engaged in pedophilia and were using their office to protect other pedophiles. She named the prestigious "Vancouver Club" as a center of this pedophile ring. (Kevin Annett, Hidden From History: The Canadian Holocaust, p. 147-150)

The Judge ordered Auger removed from the court. "The sheriffs dragged Andres-Auger out of the court and you could hear her thumping down the stairs behind the judge's bench." Then the Judge ordered the sheriffs to remove her lawyer Jack Cram. Police were called to clear the courtroom of about 80 supporters. According to a press release (http://sisis.nativeweb.org/clark/cram.html), this is what happened when Cram took the cause to the public:

"One night at about 11:30 p.m., after finishing a radio interview, Mr. Cram returned home, parked his car, and while walking to his apartment building five policemen emerged out of the bushes and leaped on him. He was put in an unmarked van and as soon as they got him in they "shot him full of something" and he was transported to the psychiatric ward of Vancouver General Hospital -- as a "no information" patient.

SAVING JACK CRAM
" When the committee found out where Mr. Cram was, they had to go to Prince George, some 800 kms away, to find a lawyer who would file habeas-corpus writ to release Mr. Cram but it was never used as Mr. Cram was again, unexpectedly, released after being held this time for 7 days.

"Mr. Cram went directly from the psychiatric ward to a meeting of the committee that was under way at the same time. He was still under the effects of the drugs that had been administered to him up until about two hours prior to his release. But he was able to explain everything that had happened. It was two of his closest associates, one of which was the one who had bad mouthed him on TV, that signed papers to have Mr. Cram committed.

"After a trial, the court disbarred him for a year and fined him $10,000. He was bankrupt and had lost his practice. Cram moved to his ranch in Princeton, a community about 280 km east of Vancouver.

"According to Judge Gibbs, in making his recent judgment on Dr. Clark's appeal, said "after [Mr. Cram] received treatment for his paranoid-delusions mental illness, he subsequently dropped all his court cases that he had started in his delusional phase" and one of the conditions for returning to the bar after one year was that he continue to receive psychiatric treatment for that year. Mr. Cram could have been jailed for three months if he didn't receive the treatment or defaulted on paying the fine."

Renate Andres-Auger (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestarphoenix/obituary.aspx?pid=179508261) died last April. Law Society of BC official James Taylor, who disbarred Andres-Auger and Cram, became a BC Supreme Court judge and issued an injunction in 2002 against mentioning the pedophile charges.

Ed John, a native leader accused of using Mafia tactics, and running cocaine and child prostitution rings, was actually named Minister of Child and Family Services in the NDP (socialist) provincial government in 2000. The injunction also covered any mention of these charges.

COMMENTS ON THIS SHAMEFUL EPISODE
Jennifer Wade, a founder of Amnesty International in Vancouver, said in 1999:
"The Cram/Andres-Auger story, to this day, remains a very strange and fearful tale of alleged corruption and pedophilia in high places. It is also a story which has never yet been completely told. Perhaps if it were, along with a few other strange stories, we as Canadians would have little reason to gasp at the exposure of pedophile rings in Belgium operating in high places two years ago. The matter of cover-ups possibly existing for those in high places in Canada is becoming more and more credible as more and more people speak out."
In 2007 Univ. of Lethbridge professor Anthony Hall* commented in Canadian Dimension magazine:
"No public investigation into the treatment and accusations of Andres-Auger and Cram ever took place. We can only speculate, therefore, on the circumstances behind such a dramatic collapse of dignity and due process in the criminal-justice system. Certainly it is made to seem probable that some highly placed group or individual believed that he, she, or they had a great deal to lose if Andres-Auger and Cram had been able to press charges."
Hall relates how in 1995, when lawyer Bruce Clark (http://sisis.nativeweb.org/clark/currvit.html)tried to make a legal argument on behalf of Aboriginal clients, an incident transpired in a rural B.C. court similar to when Andres-Auger and Cram tried to bring their evidence forward. Clark was taken into custody and sent to an institution for a compulsory psychological examination.

This is how dissidents were treated in another Illuminati satrap, the USSR. Granted these events took place 13-14 years ago, but you can bet they created a chill that continues today.

CONCLUSION
The Illuminati has a vital interest in using Native leadership to confiscate Aboriginal land and water, and to operate drug trafficking and pedophile rings. That's why lawyers who attempted to represent ordinary Natives incurred the wrath of these (moral) reptiles. That's when the mask slipped, and we had a glimpse of the ugly reality of our society.




Another man to watch is Kevin Annett (http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/) , a United Church (Methodist-Presbyterian) minister who was kicked out of the church (https://www.henrymakow.com/be-known-by-your-enemies.html) for investigating systemic murder of Native children in church-run residential schools. He is leading a courageous crusade to force the Canadian government and churches to acknowledge genocide. Canadians are outspoken about recognizing other nations' genocides.


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"If genocide can happen to to Indian people today, it can happen to you tomorrow," Annett writes in his book, Love and Death in the Valley.

"Especially if you rely on the government and corporate system that has robbed them for so long."
The experience of Andres-Auger, Cram, Clark and Annett shows that when it comes to freedom, truth and justice, we live in an hypocritical and decadent society. Banker-Masonic control infects society like a cancer paralyzing mind and spirit.

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Related:
YouTube on Child Trafficking (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0-QGu8lOO4)
"A Tale of Two Lawyers" (http://british-columbia.ca.human-rights.org/Tale2lawyers.html)
"Did Illuminati Exterminate Canadian Indian Children?"
(https://www.henrymakow.com/did_the_illuminati_exterminate.html)"Illuminati Sex Slaves Paint Horrifying Picture" (https://www.savethemales.ca/000683.html)
Canada Is Famous – For Child Sexual Abuse (http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2014/01/canada-is-famous-for-child-sexual-abuse/)
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*
About Lethbridge prof. Anthony Hall (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/tony-hall-suspended-lethbridge-1.3793294):


B'nai Brith Canada called for Hall's termination after questions about an anti-Semitic Facebook post made on his page by a third party. The group also alleges the professor uses his academic credentials to deny the Holocaust and promote various conspiracy theories.... which means that a certain clique got onto Tony Hall's case...

BongoBob
16th February 2017, 02:12
[...]
It seems now that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is working with a different strategy as they quietly make lower-level arrests as they most likely build a case and gather intel to begin making bigger arrests. Hopefully, we should start to see more sting operations over the coming weeks that will eventually lead right to the top of the elite Washington D.C. pedophile ring.
[...]
Yeah...this is still a "Damage Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control)" operation since few individuals can grasp the sophistication of the "elite" networks and operations which can build orphanages (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control&p=833191&viewfull=1#post833191) with all logistics for smuggling the "chosen ones" all prepared in advance of a not-yet-declared war and rip the "benefits" of said war... apparently it never fails to work according to "plan."



FBI raids Strongsville-based international adoption agency (http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2017/02/fbi_raids_strongsville-based_i.html)
on February 14, 2017 at 4:16 PM, updated February 15, 2017 at 2:47 PM

STRONGSVILLE, Ohio -- The Cleveland FBI raided an international adoption agency based in Strongsville Tuesday as part of an ongoing criminal investigation, a spokeswoman confirmed.

The visit by federal agents to European Adoption Consultants came less than two months after the U.S. State Department barred the company from conducting international adoption services for three years.

The State Department's investigation found the company and its providers overseas committed several violations, including soliciting bribes and lying to officials to affect adoption eligibility, according to a report posted on its website. In some instances, the agencies' decisions or actions led to children being harmed, the report says.

European Adoption Consultants was founded in 1991 by Margaret Cole. She lost her 6-week-old daughter to sudden infant death syndrome and told a Plain Dealer reporter in 1995 that she started the agency after others denied her adoption attempts because she was more than 40 years old and already had children.

The State Department says European Adoption Consultants operates adoption programs in Bulgaria, China, Colombia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Haiti, Honduras, India, Panama, Poland, Tanzania, Uganda and Ukraine.

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The investigation found that European Adoption Consultants and its providers used false documents and made false statements to influence the government decisions here and overseas. These decisions affected adoption cases and the accreditation of agencies.

The report also says the Strongsville company did not properly supervise providers overseas to ensure that the providers followed each country's laws. It says the providers did not act in the best interest of children, especially to prevent the sale, kidnapping, exploitation and kidnapping of children.

The agency also failed to follow various international treaties and laws by soliciting bribes, fraudulently obtaining birth parent consent, and lying to birth parents, the report says. It also failed to seek accurate information about children, and withheld or misrepresented important information about children.

In one instance, the State Department says the agency gave preferential treatment to an agency employee when placing a child, after the adoption of the child failed the first time.

"The placement decision, together with other failures related to that placement, resulted in serious harm to a child," the report says.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 02:49
New infographic with arrests since Trump's inauguration:

http://i.imgur.com/LvwzrFi.jpg

7alon
16th February 2017, 13:29
New infographic with arrests since Trump's inauguration:

http://i.imgur.com/LvwzrFi.jpg

Wonderful! I was just about to post this myself. This gives me hope. I hope they really clean house because its time for humanity to rise from the ashes of this vile deep state and their disgusting ways.

boutreality
16th February 2017, 14:55
Accrediting this to Trump is like saying the Washington monument helped us save the white house on 9/11.

Years and years of coordinating among different law enforcement agencies and investigations and sorting out who among them could even be trusted went into this- groups of people whose careers last through several Presidents.
And like Herve says- this is all damage control and will continue to be until actual royal, aristocratic and international corporate elites are brought down- perpetrators and the profiteers from the trade at the top will have to fall.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 18:32
Accrediting this to Trump is like saying the Washington monument helped us save the white house on 9/11.

Years and years of coordinating among different law enforcement agencies and investigations and sorting out who among them could even be trusted went into this- groups of people whose careers last through several Presidents.

The Justice Departments of previous administrations tied the hands of many law enforcement officials who wanted to act on this stuff (from Obama back to Reagan at least). You will get to hear plenty about all of that and the reasons why that was the case by the time this is all said and done with.

The fact that Trump is president now does make a difference here.

boutreality
16th February 2017, 18:40
The faction that runs the child sex traffic trade in the US, as in many other countries, exists within the CIA, CPS, FBI -local plus other national and international law enforcement and State Department agencies- the work to have these truly small scale gains had and published at all carried on throughout all president's terms from at least Bush I.

To claim a man entered the white house and have it implied that by the 'magic of his presence' this all happened in two to three months is an assault on basic intelligence.

The below scenario is just as valid as "Trump, the White Hat finally":

Trump was teased into entering the 16 election in order to sway voters as necessary into choosing between two chosen candidates -most likely Jeb Bush or Cruz and Hillary- a faction counter to NWO interests seized the opportunity to force Trump into office, a man who will be more easily controlled and whose policies can be more effectively steered.

He ran on "Make America Great Again" -Reagan's slogan was "Make America Great" his "platform" was "build a wall, they'll pay for it"; "ban Muslims" and tit for tat exchanges with all the fervor of high school "put-down" contests.

Nevermind that Reaganomics set in motion what is still gradually making the middle class vanish and the apparent "fresh worldview" that his disavowing of accepted decorum offered during his campaign:

He is worth HUNDERDS OF MILLIONS.
His "blind trust", where his assets are meant to be held while in office, was appointed to it his son- clear malfeasance.
He has appointed characters around him that have been fixtures of the same "make them think its getting better while we ensure it gets worse slowly enough for us all to cash in
and so that no one notices" regimes that have run this country for over a century.

If you think this make me a democrat your're wrong it's whigs and torries- it has been all along.

TargeT
16th February 2017, 18:43
To claim a man entered the white house and have it implied that by the 'magic of his presence' this all happened in two to three months is an assault on basic intelligence.

And to think that he had no impact is equally as inane; but why push the point, how does this matter for the current topic at hand?

boutreality
16th February 2017, 19:00
The only point of my first and second post on this page is:

"Let's not make this a cheer-all for any president, this is a too hard fought victory of law enforcement and it is not to be accepted as proof the problem is coming to an end."

How about, "What's the latest on Epstein?" -Something in line with an unrelenting chase after the actual culprits.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 20:04
The faction that runs the child sex traffic trade in the US, as in many other countries, exists within the CIA, CPS, FBI -local plus other national and international law enforcement and State Department agencies- the work to have these truly small scale gains had and published at all carried on throughout all president's terms from at least Bush I on.

If you look into the details of these busts they are different, but you have to link them with what is coming out of the Pizzagate investigation on places like Voat.

One example: Haiti. Haiti is the major hub of human trafficking through the Caribbean. George Webb has been showing all of this in great detail for months. The arrests taking place in Haiti hit directly in areas where the Clinton Foundation was facilitating a lot of dirty stuff, not only forced prostitution and sex trafficking but also mass murder and organ harvesting. We could go into the whole Laura Silsby thing (arrested for human trafficking in Haiti) if you want details linking the Clintons directly to child trafficking, or we could go the Michael and Max Maccoby route (consulting for orphanages that were involved in trafficking operations) and directly link DNC and George Soros operative David Brock (who worked directly for Hillary Clinton's election campaign) and his ex boyfriend James Alefantis to child trafficking that was occurring in Haiti as well.

Granted that we haven't cleaned everything up in Haiti (yet), but it's a promising start and an indicating that they are continuing to gather evidence. When they do raids like this they are not only making arrests and freeing children but also collecting evidence for trials and further investigations and raids. Like George Webb says, all they have to do is pull the financial records of some of these hotels and orphanages and the whole house of cards will come tumbling down in a major investigation. Certain Haitian politicians have known what is going on for a long time and Trump got a lot of Haitian support during the election, and he pledged to help their people however he could.

Or we can look at the child trafficking bust at the Detroit Auto Show. This is an interesting case too, because not only was human trafficking going on at an auto show, but Obama himself attended this show last year. That may not sound very significant in itself but Obama is eat up* in the Wikileaks and other Pizzagate-related stuff, everything from ordering $65,000 worth of "hot dogs" from Chicago for a party at the White House (going through the same "channels," in the language of the email), where outside food is not allowed for security reasons, to meeting with James Alefantis types and organizations connected to Clinton Foundation operations in Haiti and elsewhere.

Child trafficking busts have happened under previous administrations that still managed to protect their own criminal elements for the most part, but at least some of these busts that have been happening lately are qualitatively different in that they tie directly into circles that have become known to public Pizzagate researchers, and these circles touch on lots of household names and people in high places. We'll see if more big names start going down but between all of this, and the Anthony Weiner stuff, the Podestas, Hastert, Epstein, etc., etc., things are not looking good for these people.


* To be "eat up" in something is a way of saying to be up to your neck in something, to be heavily involved in something. Someone brought it to my attention that this idiom isn't used everywhere so instead of watering down the local dialect I figured I'd just include this note. Thanks. :)

boutreality
16th February 2017, 21:34
Excellent point, the arrests re: the Clinton foundation (which I'm all for) could not have possibly resulted from an investigation that spanned the duration of Trump's time in office (sworn in less than a month ago) -if they did, they are shams meant to be thrown out of court.

The progress these arrests and the yet to be heard cases represent can't be tied to any president, the fact that they're going forward can't be tied to anyone in office.
Members of DoD and Law enforcement responsible for the "advances" aren't voted in, they do the work.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 21:44
Federal law enforcement (such as FBI agents) answer to the Department of Justice (DOJ). The Department of Justice answers to the President of the United States.

Law enforcement cannot move forward with cases unless the DOJ cooperates.


Yes, they have had this info for a long time. But that doesn't mean they are allowed to act on it. Remember Loretta Lynch meeting on a plane with Bill Clinton for 30 minutes last year? What do you think that was about, exactly?

boutreality
16th February 2017, 21:57
I'm not sure if you think I'd defend Clinton at all for any reason, if that's the case you're mistaken.

Timing of events can lead to apperceptions; you're breathing and a drug bust went down outside- and every case pursued by the DoJ, every lead officer/agent involved does not depend on the POTUS to move forward, perhaps the AG has his own agenda and enforces it.

Ted Gunderson reported that his FBI investigation into a child sex trafficking ring out of LA area preschools was shut down by the CIA as it led them to sex-slave auctions outside Vegas.

The bureaucracy is formidable and obscures the sets of people that perpetuate the problem, if it could all be cleanly tied back to one office-holder the problem might have ended by now.

There's no proof that "hands previously tied are now free" -it's a forced play by play commentary shared because it fits the "Trump is our guy" meme.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 22:26
You can believe what you want. In the next few months we're either going to see this develop into something bigger or we're not. Then we'll see whose interpretation of the data was better.

boutreality
16th February 2017, 22:35
I appreciate your info on Haiti and other cases, there's just nothing tying those developments to Trump, and it can't bee seen as "sufficient progress".
The whole global problem needs to be handled.

These cases are likely "sacrificial lambs"; false surrenders of a ring that already has in place how that part of their "market" will be served despite the apparent setback, with all the evidence pointing to involvement at the highest echelons of power, it's a logical conclusion.
Obama/Trump/Clinton- whoever.

There's no reason to lose hope that things will get better, hope is better placed with people, those that will serve the law and save the children and not in what any one person represents.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 22:38
Justice Department stats: Human Trafficking Bust Since Trump Inaug More Than Double 2014 Year


Feds Make Record Gains On Human Trafficking As Global Networks Broken Up

While the mainstream media's attention has been fixed on political drama in Washington D.C., federal and state law enforcement have been quietly working to dismantle a shockingly large number of human trafficking and child abuse networks across the United States. The busts in America come at the same time as a number of other successful international law enforcement operations against networks engaging in human trafficking of women and children.

Since the inauguration of Donald Trump on January 20th, 2017, the number of trafficking arrests for human trafficking in 2017 have doubled the total numbers provided for the entire year of 2014 by the Department of Justice. Each individual law enforcement operation has been listed below for reader convenience:

Domestic Trafficking Busts

January 27th: 42 arrested in Memphis, Tennessee during a human trafficking operation led by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. Arrestees included a medical professional, engineers, a law student, a tow truck driver and construction workers.

January 29th: 474 arrested, 27 adults and 28 sexually exploited children saved in an operation spearheaded by more than 30 federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and task forces in Los Angeles, California. The bust of the sex ring was the largest human trafficking operation in United States history and was largely ignored by the media.

On the same day, five individuals were arrested in Bucks County, Pennsylvania as part of what authorities described as a fetish-themed child predator sex ring. The Pennsylvania Attorney General stated that the arrests were part of an ongoing investigation and that they believed the child abuse sex ring involved more victims and predators.

February 1st: 11 women rescued in an operation lead by the New Orleans Violent Crime against Children and Human Trafficking task force. No arrests were reported.

February 5th: 108 arrests were reported in Illinois as what was described as part of a national sex trafficking sting operation occurring in 15 different states.

178 individuals were arrested in Texas on the same day as part of the same John's Suppression Initiative. Arrestees included the sports agent responsible for getting Roger Clemens the highest ever single-season Major League Baseball contract.

In addition to the arrests in Illinois and Texas, 464 other individuals were arrested in the same interstate operation on Super Bowl Sunday. Police stated that six minors and 86 adults were rescued during the operation.

February 10th: 160 individuals were arrested during an immigration crackdown in Los Angeles, California. 150 of the individuals arrested had criminal histories, many including child sex offenses.

February 13th: 22 arrested, 15 adults and 2 child victims saved at Detroit's North American International Auto Show.

February 14th: The FBI raided the adoption agency European Adoption Consultants (EAC) in Strongsville, Ohio. In December the State Department debarred the agency from continued operation, citing failures "to adequately supervise…preventing the sale, abduction, exploitation, or trafficking of children."

February 15th: 11 men were arrested during a child sex sting operation in Spotsylvania County, Virginia. One of the arrestees was working part time at a local Christian school.

42 individuals were also arrested in Polk County, Florida as part of a child pornography and sex offender investigation.

International Trafficking Busts

January 27th: 13 individuals were arrested in connection with a pedophile ring in Quebec, Canada. Several of the arrestees held positions as teachers and scout leaders.

February 5th: 9 individuals were arrested and 31 children and women rescued during a police raid at the Kaliko Beach Club resort in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Users online speculated that the arrests may have been related to an announcement two days earlier from the Clinton Foundation that they would be quitting their projects in Haiti.

February 10th: Six men aged 20 to 66 were arrested on child pornography charges involving 168 underage male victims in Japan

February 13th: 16 suspects were arrested and 24 children freed by the Ghanan Police Anti-Human Trafficking Unit (ATHU) from the the Volta Lake in the process of being transported to other parts of the country to be sold into forced labour. Online users have pointed out the the now closed Clinton Global Initiative partnered with a program known as The Post Harvest Project (TPHP) in the Volta Lake area of Ghana, though at this time there is no definitive indication as to whether the arrests were related the project or not.

Notable Individual Arrests

February 13th: Jeffery Sandusky, the adopted son of disgraced child abuser Jerry Sandusky, was arrested on child molestation charges. He is accused of solicitation of statutory sexual assault, solicitation of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, six counts of unlawful contact with a minor and two counts each of solicitation to photograph or depict sexual acts, sexual abuse of children and corruption of minors.

February 15th: A man was arrested in Wayland, New York on charges of Possessing a Sexual Performance of a Child and Promoting Sexual Performance of a Child. Users online speculated that the individual was the Chief Analyst for the New York National Guard after a Linkedin profile was discovered under the same name as the arrestee.

Additionally, a newly appointed special prosecutor in Cleveland, Ohio reopened over 70 child sex cases according to reports on February 14th. A Jane Doe Plaintiff has also filed a new civil case on January 26th against notorious billionaire pedophile Jeffery Epstein and his associates Ghislaine Maxwell, Lesley Groff, Sarah Kellen, and Natalya Malyshev. The charges relate to the underage sex ring being run by Epstein that was uncovered in 2005. A pretrial conference will occur on March 9, 2017, in New York City.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-16/feds-make-record-gains-human-trafficking-global-networks-broken


The difference between the DOJ under Loretta Lynch and the DOJ under Jeff Sessions is already making itself clear.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 22:41
I appreciate your info on Haiti and other cases, there's just nothing tying those developments to Trump, and it can't bee seen as "sufficient progress".

I realize you're not a fan of Trump and that's apparently the only issue you have with what I'm posting, since I guess he can't possibly be an agent for positive change in Washington. But I have a question for you, and I'm curious what your answer is.

Loretta Lynch (Obama's Attorney General, head of the DOJ) was responsible for prosecutions resulting from FBI investigations. Bill Clinton met with her privately on a plane for 30 minutes during the FBI's investigation of Hillary Clinton.

Why do you think that happened?

boutreality
16th February 2017, 22:45
These cases are the result of footwork and investigations that may have lasted for more than half of Obama's time in office! At any time they could have been shut down! -And not just by the President or the AG- they weren't. When it's an international case the decision to prosecute may not lie with US officials.

And that doesn't mean I like Obama either.

"Agent" for positive change in Washington -singular- when it comes to sex trafficking will lead to no lasting improvement, because it's one person.

Agents for positive change will, you think Trump is one of them I don't- he's a patsy for the side we're both on and he has no choice.

Loretta Lynch-

I quite directly don't care- perhaps Clinton paid her to get off it and maybe she did. Maybe she was being stalled by a pro-Clinton interest that foresaw an ability to redirect the course of things once Hillary was in office- that's likely.

Let's call for an investigation into her AND Obama's involvement because if there was obstruction of justice it's a factor that ought to be removed.

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2017, 23:05
These cases are the result of footwork and investigations that may have lasted for more than half of Obama's time in office! At any time they could have been shut down! -And not just by the President or the AG- they weren't.

If you look up the Franklin cover-up, or Ted Gunderson, or the Boys Town stuff in Nebraska, people in law enforcement have known about this stuff and been investigating it and trying to prosecute it for decades.

Federal investigators have known about this stuff for decades and have been prevented from acting on it. If there is a sudden increase in prosecutions of these cases this year, the only thing that has changed administratively to explain it is the fact that the Trump administration now controls the DOJ and oversees the FBI.


Loretta Lynch-

I quite directly don't care-

Well you should because the fact that the DOJ can throw the FBI off of prosecutions negates your entire argument that it's only career investigators who are responsible for prosecutions. Obviously there is a level of administrative control and they can't just prosecute everybody they have evidence on.