Trump is NOT the answer

[bojancan]

In Trump administration: " Let's make Ilegal Lega!"

Dec, 17
More Perfect Union
2.52M subscribers
We Investigated The Criminals Who Bought Trump: What We Found Will Shock You
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A billionaire put $75 million into the Trump family crypto company. His SEC probe was dropped.

Binance helped them make a crypto coin and facilitated a $2 billion deal. The founder was pardoned.

The Trumps are using crypto to enable brazen corruption at the highest level.

[shaberon]

According to a recent vote (https://freespeechforpeople.org/140-members-of-congress-vote-to-advance-articles-of-impeachment-against-trump/):


On December 11, 2025, 140 members of the US House of Representatives voted to advance Congressman Al Green’s articles of impeachment against President Trump.



You can follow the link to the roll call and if you have a supporting representative, you can ask them to file new articles. He is sure to provide grounds for this.

If they are not supporting, you can argue with them.

This takes about eighty more votes to become a Resolution, which is passed to the Senate. It requires compelling evidence because 2/3 of the Senators must pass it to convict.


The soon-to-be-related Reolution 64 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/64/all-actions) went like this:


12/17/2025-6:09pm Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
Action By: House of Representatives

12/17/2025-6:09pm On agreeing to the resolution Failed by the Yeas and Nays: 211 - 213 (Roll no. 346).
Action By: House of Representatives



In other words, the impeachment was tabled, along party lines, meaning more or less it stopped. Need to file again.

This vote, concerning Venezuela, failed by like two votes and went back for re-consideration that very minute.

It's a simple directive to pull the military away from Venezuela, not use force, etc., because he cannot declare war.

[bojancan]

The whole world knows... no matter what Trump has done or will do in the near future... it will be sanitized... probably swept under the table... it seams to me, that there are too many other criminal people in power... they are equally guilty of criminal activity... same bad human biengs high above all of us... untouchable... :thumbsdown:

Dec, 18
MeidasTouch
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Trump has CATASTROPHIC DAY as KARMA FINALLY STRIKES
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[AutumnW]

Nothing will come of the documents being released.

The Fascists have won, not just in the US but internationally. Fascism has to play itself out through more war, more famine, more misery.

Those countries who have or will shortly vote in monsters have to feel the boot directly on their own faces, before they'll acknowledge there's a massive problem.

[bojancan]

Some News about Melania????

Dec,17
The Daily Beast
507K subscribers
Why Melania Trump Is Hiding From Me: Wolff | Inside Trump's Head
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Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles with a story Trump World would rather bury: his legal pursuit of Melania Trump after she threatened a $1 billion libel suit over his reporting on her ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Wolff details the surreal effort to serve the First Lady—lawyers refusing papers, process servers turned away, Trump Tower staff claiming she lives there while she avoids being found—and explains why he sued first under New York’s anti-intimidation law.

The legal farce opens onto something larger: a family operating in secrecy and fear, a president trying to “serve” his wife even as control slips, and a White House where avoidance has become strategy. As Trump’s foreign policy grows more erratic and Europe edges toward war, the question lingers: is Melania’s disappearance just legal gamesmanship—or another sign of a presidency retreating from accountability?

[Ravenlocke]

DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump comment on a 14-year old girl. "This is a good one, right?"

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2002145322441855165

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[Ravenlocke]

dana reposted

CALL TO ACTIVISM

🚨HUGE EMBARRASSMENT FOR Melania Trump.

BREAKING: The director of Melania’s new documentary, Brett Ratner, is not only in the newly released Epstein files - but he’s photographed kneeling by a shirtless Jean-Luc Brunel, Jeffrey Epstein’s close associate later charged with sex trafficking.

This is who the Trumps chose to tell her story. This is who they are.

https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/2002500089617522726

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[bojancan]

Well said George!

The World Cup should never have gone to the United States
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Trumps and Clintons were the best buddies for decades... Trump was democrat till 2008, 9...


Trump Aides Are Secretly Prepping for His Downfall | Inside Trump's Head

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[shaberon]

The Fascists have won, not just in the US but internationally. Fascism has to play itself out through more war, more famine, more misery.

Those countries who have or will shortly vote in monsters have to feel the boot directly on their own faces, before they'll acknowledge there's a massive problem.



This was effectively true by the 1930s.

It may not have been obvious, since the typical person in those days would not have known details about the dirt in Washington, D. C.; so for example, even though Smedley Butler made this perfectly clear, without internet you are talking about a minorly-distributed pamphlet rather than common knowledge.

However, the Truman Doctrine, 1946, establishes it in a perfectly clear manner, from which we go to the genocidal campaign against Korea for so many years and so forth, and there aren't missing details, or, if there are hidden stories, the knowable ones are bad enough.

What you have described is unfortunately the status quo of the U. S. and most of Europe, along with Argentina.

I have never known of an example in law or politics -- as in something that *passed* -- that significantly challenges the core principles.

And, yes, the key to Economics is the science of moving the violence elsewhere so you don't see it. So what we get here is a type of stagnancy with enough life support to keep flogging it along. Without serious backlash, no one is likely to blink.

[rgray222]

It may not have been obvious, since the typical person in those days would not have known details about the dirt in Washington, D. C.; so for example, even though Smedley Butler made this perfectly clear, without internet you are talking about a minorly-distributed pamphlet rather than common knowledge.


Bulter had a cynical view of the world, and sometimes I believe he used corporate profiteering as a disguise for his shortcomings and the guilt he felt for his own actions on the battlefield. You can only wonder what led him to defy his Quaker pacifist upbringing and become a general in the Marine Corps. There is no doubt he was being agonizingly pulled in two different moral directions, and it was easier to blame corporations than himself. The blame had to land somewhere.



And, yes, the key to Economics is the science of moving the violence elsewhere so you don't see it. So what we get here is a type of stagnancy with enough life support to keep flogging it along. Without serious backlash, no one is likely to blink.

Viewing economics as simply moving the violence around reduces it to a manipulative game rather than an understanding of how economies actually work. Hiding unpleasant outcomes is about as cynical as you can get. I don't admit this a lot, but I have a strong educational background in economics. Recognising the good, the bad, and the ugly in economic systems removes that cynicism and provides the tools to understand how it works.

Trump may not be the answer for a lot of people, but if you are turning over rocks trying to find facism then I suggest you move northward beyond the border. The ground for fascism is much more fertile.

[bojancan]

Malignant Narcissist.. criminal and grifter.. not only con man.. he is bathing himself and his family in a bigger swamp he said, he will get rid of... I can not believe how gullible and stupid people are... still watching up to him... Shame!!!!

Dec, 21
George Galloway
745K subscribers
MONOLOGUE: Trump crucified. But it doesn't feel like Christmas
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Epstein reveal charade. Drain the swamp? Trump's Epstein connection flushes him down the plughole. Maria Farmer reported it all to the FBI in 1999. Deliberate overlook

[abmqa]

The "totalitarian tiptoe" will eventually (and sooner rather than later) be visited upon ALL American citizens.


Immigrants’ DNA to Be Tested Under New DHS Plan--October 31

Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not--November 4


Expanding Border Security: DNA and Social Media History to Be Collected from Travellers--December 14


Moreover, visitors may be required to disclose their phone numbers, email addresses, and even IP addresses used over the last five to ten years. Additional personal data, such as the names, birth dates, and places of birth of close family members (spouses, parents, children, siblings), may also be collected. These proposed data fields would go far beyond the standard requirements currently in place, offering a much deeper dive into travelers’ personal and professional lives.


Soon it will be all tourists and then all citizens, I figure.

Here we go. It has officially arrived.

[abmqa]

Nothing will come of the documents being released.

The Fascists have won, not just in the US but internationally. Fascism has to play itself out through more war, more famine, more misery.

Those countries who have or will shortly vote in monsters have to feel the boot directly on their own faces, before they'll acknowledge there's a massive problem.

I agree 100%. The total erosion of our legal system is happening before our eyes. What recourse is there when the Department of Justice has deliberately and with malicious intent, ignored the law? This release of the Epstein files by the DOJ is a huge middle finger 🖕 to every citizen in the United States and perhap, the world. Everyone should be furious, regardless of political affiliations. This is what they call transparency folks! You have a problem with that? Is their attitude. Scary.

[shaberon]

I don't admit this a lot, but I have a strong educational background in economics. Recognising the good, the bad, and the ugly in economic systems removes that cynicism and provides the tools to understand how it works.

Trump may not be the answer for a lot of people, but if you are turning over rocks trying to find facism then I suggest you move northward beyond the border. The ground for fascism is much more fertile.


Again you are posting something diversionary without making a point.

It's "Fascism" (strong education), and we're not turning over rocks trying to find it. Most of us are looking to see if it ends anywhere, and are not impressed with an "economic system" holding $37 T of debt. To take an ad hominem against Butler does nothing about the underlying issues.

[shaberon]

This is how it is being understood in international consortiums (https://en.mehrnews.com/news/240030/US-Israel-promoters-of-war-and-violence-in-the-world):




On the International Day against Violence and Extremism, critics argue that US and Israeli policies have entrenched war, state terrorism, and global instability.

December 18, 2014 has been designated as the International Day against Violence and Extremism by the UN General Assembly resolution. In this regard, this year, the international conference "Peace and a World Free of Violence in Legal Principles and Shared Cultural Values" was held at Tehran University on Sunday, December 21, 2025, with the participation of a group of university professors, and prominent Iranian and foreign jurists.

The reality is that today, with the expansion of America's hostile and violent policies against independent and multilateral countries and its insistence on institutionalizing unilateralism in the Trump era, the world is witnessing the rapid growth of state terrorism and the preparation for war. The realities of the scene show that terrorism, violence and war-mongering are the products of the neoconservative policies of America and the Zionist regime, and it is not wrong to consider the rulers of Tel Aviv as the main accomplices of the White House in this area.

The ideological foundations of terrorist networks are rooted in the hegemonic tendencies of the United States, and the joint action of Washington and Tel Aviv to assassinate the main figures of the Resistance Axis, nuclear scientists, the genocide in Gaza, and the aggression against Iran is considered the result of the incitement of the United States and Israel.

In fact, the support of American officials, especially Trump, for Israel is the main source of war and state terrorism and its spread in the world. According to Paul Atwood, a professor of American studies at the University of Massachusetts, terrorism is a tool in the US foreign policy strategy.

Israel, which does not shy away from admitting to the killing of its opponents and terrorist operations in countries around the world, seeks to implement the strategy of expanding this regime "from the Nile to the Euphrates" or "Greater Israel" by increasing war and insecurity in West Asia. Tel Aviv, by ignoring international laws and regulations, the genocide in Gaza, the continuation of the occupation of Palestine, and the destabilization of Lebanon and Syria, also enjoys the support of the United States as a promoter of terrorism.

This year, the world is welcoming the Day to Combat Violence and Extremism, while the United States and the Zionist regime are undoubtedly the main promoters of war and insecurity and the most hated regimes in the world, and the killing of children and women in Gaza is one of the prominent symbols of Washington and Tel Aviv's collaboration in creating fear and intimidation in the world. Of course, the inefficiency of the United Nations and its executive arm, the Security Council, has also exacerbated the process of violence and war and threatened international peace and security.

Apart from inciting war in West Asia, the movement that the United States has put on the agenda against Venezuela is a warmongering action in the Caribbean Sea. The US's excuse for aggression against Venezuela, namely its connection to drug trafficking, is completely false because combating drugs has its own ways and methods, and no country has sought to combat drug trafficking through war and aggression against an independent country. Today, there are places in America that are the production and distribution of drugs, and this issue is abundant in some parts of New York, and if Trump wants to fight drugs, he must first start in his own country. At the time of the emergence of the Taliban, the Americans allowed them to earn money from selling drugs, acquire weapons, and fight the Afghan fighters who had defeated the former Soviet Union. Therefore, the claim that the United States is seeking to combat drugs in Venezuela is an excuse to destabilize a revolutionary state and put its desired person in power in this country.

Of course, history has shown that no country can usurp another country without suffering damage itself, and if a war breaks out in the Caribbean, it will be long-term and may even spread to other Latin American countries.

At this critical time, it is necessary for supporters of peace and justice and the main opponents of terrorism and war, united and deciding, to show their seriousness in fighting violence in the field. Non-governmental organizations, research centers, academics, and the media can also play a role in a world free of war and terrorism by exposing the main perpetrators of global problems.

The Islamic Republic of Iran, as a peace-loving country that has repeatedly shown that it has been a pioneer in eradicating terrorism and warmongering, can also take the necessary measures in this regard in bilateral and multilateral relations at the current stage.

[bojancan]

"I've lost faith in the American people being able to differentiate between right and wrong"... says Scott Ritter about the dump of redacted Epstein files...

Dec, 22
George Galloway
745K subscribers
INTERVIEW: We have a literal cult of personality in power today
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[bojancan]

Criminal families...

Dec, 22
Jack Cocchiarella
1.39M subscribers
HOLY SH*T! Blanche CAUGHT STEALING MILLIONS … Trump Implicated!
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[bojancan]

Trump's been extra busy this year with his corrupt and chaotic handling of DEI, immigration, the trade war, SNAP benefits, foreign bribes, and more, but Jon Stewart managed to sum it all up with one big, beautiful word: Bulls**t!

Dec, 22
The Daily Show
13.3M subscribers
Jon Stewart's Best Trump Takedowns of 2025 | The Daily Show
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[bojancan]

Two disgusting people... this administration... Trillions of dollars are being transferred from poor to the rich AGAIN.. as first term... but now, on a much larger scale.. :facepalm:

Bravo Dilon! Bravo!!!!

Liberty Vault
364K subscribers
Tim Dillon Shares the TRUE STORY of Trump, Friendship, and the ISRAEL LOBBY
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[bojancan]

Yes... you are right Kyle.. utterly agree with you.. short video.. but right on the target!

Dec, 25
Secular Talk
2.08M subscribers
Hunter Biden Finally Snaps On Jared Kushner’s Corruption | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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[bojancan]

Trump is a Trojan Horse...

Long good article in https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/10/investigative-reports/city-states-without-limits-part-1/

City-States Without Limits – Part 1

A powerful group of Silicon Valley oligarchs are using the Trump administration to push for the construction of privatized city-states in the US. Their interests are aligned with a global network of oligarchs who want to move away from the global governance of nation-states to the global governance of an international network of city-states. The intention is for the city-states to form a “patchwork” of realms overseen by a regional balance of power global governance system: the Multipolar World Order.

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IAIN DAVIS
OCTOBER 9, 2025
47 MINUTE READ

New city-states—some being constructed from scratch and others being seeded into existing cities—go by many names. In the US, President Donald Trump has called them “Freedom Cities.” The United Nations refers to them as “human settlements,” the C40 Cities Network calls them “15 minute cities,” The Global Parliament of Mayors sometimes refers to them as “resilient cities,” and the Charter Cities Institute calls them, unsurprisingly, “charter cities.”

But whatever they are called, they have a defined set of common characteristics. All of these emerging city-states are centrally planned and designed to maximise the use of technology. Some are already close to becoming completed “smart cities.” Many of these new city-states, as yet undeclared, have been given independent jurisdiction with varying degrees of autonomy from the nation-states in which they reside.

Perhaps their most striking shared trait is their universal commitment to implement global governance policy initiatives. To this end, many nascent city-states have already joined city-based global governance networks.

Their development is being driven by a public-private partnership investment strategy that is encouraged and supported at the global governance level. Some are currently being built in so called “Special Economic Zones” (SEZs). Other announced city-state developments, such as Freedom Cities in the US, bear all the hallmarks of SEZs. The global proliferation of Special Economic Zones, most notably those with “residential spaces,” is rapidly expanding the potential locations for yet more city-state projects. There are already thousands.

Conspicuous philosophical and political theories, and the city-state landscape forming before our eyes, redefines our concept of global governance. The notion of phasing out the purported “sovereignty” of nation-states is now firmly embedded in the strategies to develop a new kind of intergovernmental structure. One in which the city predominates. The concept of a worldwide network of privatized, corporate city-state “kingdoms” has been embraced and is viewed as the best and most expedient method both for enslaving humanity to a centralised digital surveillance and behavioural control grid, and for establishing firm global governance.

Gov-Corp Technates

In a previous two-part investigation for Unlimited Hangout—The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate Part 1 and Part 2—we explored the so-called philosophy of the Dark Enlightenment and the sociopolitical theory of Technocracy. We saw how these two concepts overlap and witnessed how they have captured the imaginations of a group of Silicon Valley oligarchs—Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen, etc.,—who have effectively seized control of the Trump administration. It is recommended that you read those essays to get a perspective on some of the concepts we will expand on here.

The Dark Enlightenment was a philosophical treatise first published by British political theorist and philosopher Nick Land in 2012. It incorporated the ideas espoused by US “thinker,” tech entrepreneur and blogger Curtis Yarvin. Publication of the Dark Enlightenment in the UK and Yarvin’s theories, published in the US, combined to lay the alleged intellectual foundations of what has become known as the Neoreactionary movement (NRx).

In the Dark Enlightenment, Land acknowledged the influence of Peter Thiel on the growth of his own ideas. Specifically, Land referenced Thiel’s 2009 article “The Education of a Libertarian” as formative. Curtis Yarvin describes Thiel as “fully enlightened,” and is a close associate of Thiel’s. Thiel’s Founders Fund financed Yarvin’s tech startup ventures.

In essence, the Dark Enlightenment proposes that public sector government should be replaced with a form of private sector government. Privatized, corporate realms should be ruled by the CEO “TechnoKings” of “sovereign corporations” (sovcorps) as dictatorships. The realms can then be linked to form what Yarvin termed a “Patchwork” of realms. In 2008, describing his notion of the “Patchwork,” Yarvin wrote:

The basic idea of Patchwork is that, as the crappy governments we inherited from history are smashed, they should be replaced by a global spiderweb of tens, even hundreds, of thousands of sovereign and independent mini-countries, each governed by its own joint-stock corporation without regard to the residents’ opinions.



Yarvin was obviously floating the idea of breaking up nations-states into private fiefdoms where the people living in them have no voice, no individual sovereignty, and are powerless. The ideas of the NRx are extremely authoritarian. The NRx model of “government” is disassociated from any notion of politics as we understand it. As Peter Thiel wrote in his influential 2009 article, the objective is “to find an escape from politics in all its forms.”

It is worth pausing here to emphasise an important point. Neither the NRx nor the technocrats—we’ll cover them shortly—present concepts that fit easily into our comprehension of existing sociopolitical systems. Their intention is to eradicate everything we associate with so-called “representative democracy” and replace it with technological social control systems unlike anything we are currently familiar with, though more of us are starting to grasp what it portends.

For example, in order to access the realm’s currency, the “customer”—there are no citizens in an NRx technocrat run city-state—will need digital ID. Digital ID linked to digital currency will enable all the assets of every “customer” to be recorded and maintained on the realm’s unified ledger. The unified ledger will use Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) to record all customers’ assets. Consequently, those who control access to the ledger effectively have control of every customer’s life.

Imagining what life was like for oppressed peasants living in the feudal societies of Medieval Europe is probably the best way to visualise the future the darkly enlightened technocrats have in mind for us. Nothing could be further removed from libertarian principles.

The leading NRx technocrats are not the only members of, what we might call, the parasite class who wish to enslave us with digital technology. Nor are they the only oligarchs who want to transform our international polity into a network of city-states overseen by a firm global governance structure. Indeed, the NRx technocrats’ plans have succeeded to this point precisely because they gel with the objectives of the global oligarchy, of which they are a part.

Unfortunately, because the NRx technocrats propose doing away with government and exiting all political systems, this has led some libertarians to imagine that the NRx technocrat’s model is preferable to existing sociopolitical systems. Indeed, NRx influencers like Thiel are happy to be perceived as libertarian and eager to promote the idea that they are. Presumably, they do so because what they actually advocate is much closer to fascism than to libertarianism.

Telling people you want them to live in a corporate controlled technological dictatorship is not an easy sales pitch. Cloaking yourself in faux libertarianism and casting yourselves as the opponents of the globalist oligarchy neatly covers the deceit.

Land posited that gov-corp would operate on the national scale to run “an efficient, attractive, vital, clean, and secure country.” Though the relationship between gov-corp and sovcorps isn’t specified by the NRx (anywhere), given that Yarvin’s notion of sovcorp realms is based upon smashing nation-states to pieces, Land’s idea of a “secure country” run by gov-corp suggests some sort of private ruling body overseeing the “Patchwork” of sovcorp realms. Gov-corp global governance if you like.

Peter Thiel is a leading proponent of the Dark Enlightenment and an advocate for the ideas of the NRx. His fellow tech-oligarch Elon Musk, who, like Thiel, heavily backs the Trump administration, avidly promotes the implementation of Technocracy. Often described simply as a sociopolitical system controlled by relevant experts, as Musk well knows, Technocracy is much more than that.

Technocracy is a comprehensive centralised social and behavioural control system which dictates every aspect of what genuine “technocrats,” like Musk, call “the social mechanism.” Human beings are reduced to programmable automatons or “human engines” whose actions can be controlled through the surveillance of the monetary system and the economy, and through the centralised management and allocation of all resources.

Technocrats assume that there is no problem that technology cannot resolve. Crucially, Technocracy relies upon a redesigned monetary system that maximises the use of technology to monitor and manipulate every transaction. By doing so, the “function” of the human engine in the “social mechanism” can be programmed. All human behavior is regulated, permitted or restricted in a Technocracy. By overseeing the distribution of all resources, combined with firm conditions placed upon all economic activity, the behaviour of every business and every individual across the entire social mechanism—we would say across the whole of “society”—can supposedly be precisely engineered by the technocrats in a Technocracy.

The original founders of the Technocracy movement in the US envisaged the replacement of all nation-states on a continental scale and the establishment of a North American Technate. A “Technate” would be run by a “Continental Board” who would select a “Continental Director” from within their ranks to rule the entire Technate as a technological dictatorship.

Musk’s own family history is steeped in the Technocracy tradition and he has openly declared his ambition to establish Technocracy. To give an example, in an October 2024 exchange on Musk’s ‘X’ social media platform (formerly Twitter) between Musk and Guillaume Verdon, Verdon said “The Network State for Mars is being formed before our eyes.” Musk enthusiastically replied, “The Mars Technocracy,” to which Verdon gleefully responded “Count me in.”

Verdon is the founder of the Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) philosophical wing of the NRx and a tech entrepreneur who established the AI hardware startup Extropic in 2022. Like many members of the NRx, Verdon also desires Technocracy. There are notable similarities between Dark Enlightenment philosophy—if you can call it that—and the sociopolitical and socioeconomic theories inherent in Technocracy....

Both the NRx and the technocrats believe that technology is the panacea for every problem and that society—whatever they might choose to call it—should be governed through the use of technology. Therefore, in today’s technological age, both the NRx and the modern technocrats advocate a form of government largely administered by artificial intelligence (AI).

The NRx and the technocrats champion oligarchy—government by a small group of powerful people. The NRx posits that “realms” should be controlled by the CEO “TechnoKings” of a sovcorp, with the CEO of gov-corp apparently ruling the patchwork of realms. Similarly, technocrats think the Technate should be commanded by the “Continental Board” led by the “Continental Director.” Both the NRx and the technocrats want to remove all semblance of democratic oversight and establish technological oligarch-led dictatorships.

The NRx and the technocrats consider humanity worthless and expendable. For technocrats, we are “human animals” to be trained or controlled like a dog or a vehicle. For the NRx we are the “unthinking demos” whose individual sovereignty should be treated “with derision.” The NRx would like to transform us into cyborgs so that we can be programmed and they want to psychologically imprison whomever they deem “undesirable” as “bee larva” waxed in a virtual cell. Modern technocrats, such as Musk, consider us meatsacks, nothing more than “a biological bootloader for digital superintelligence.”

Verdon, alongside Nick Land and others, is considered among the patron saints of “Techno-Optimism” by leading NRx advocate and Silicon Valley oligarch Marc Andreessen. In 2023, he published the Techno-Optimist Manifesto. In his Manifesto, Andreessen wrote:

We believe that there is no material problem — whether created by nature or by technology — that cannot be solved with more technology. [. . .] Combine technology and markets and you get what Nick Land has termed the techno-capital machine, the engine of perpetual material creation, growth, and abundance. [. . .] We believe in accelerationism — the conscious and deliberate propulsion of technological development. [. . .] We believe Artificial Intelligence is our alchemy, our Philosopher’s Stone.


All NRx devotees, such as Andreessen, consider themselves accelerationists. They believe in the aggressive application of Joseph Schumpeter’s “Creative Destruction.” In his 1942 work Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy, Schumpeter described Creative Destruction as:

The opening up of new markets, foreign or domestic, and the organizational development from the craft shop to such concerns as U.S. Steel illustrate the same process of industrial mutation—if I may use that biological term—that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structure from within, incessantly destroying the old one, incessantly creating a new one. This process of Creative Destruction is the essential fact about capitalism. [P. 83]


Schumpeter was describing an effect of capitalism: the tendency for technology to revolutionise and destroy old markets by replacing them with new ones. Think how the terrestrial television and radio advertising markets have been replaced by the online digital advertising market.

Schumpeter realised that this capitalist evolution of markets has wider social implications. As the leaders of large monopolies and dominant industries exert sociopolitical influence, Creative Destruction implies more than just a revolution of commercial activity. It shifts the sociopolitical and socioeconomic order too. Again, consider the waning influence of Television and the increasing influence of social media.

Accelerationists like Andreessen and Thiel, adopting Land’s Dark Enlightenment, see Creative Destruction not just as an effect of capitalism but as a tool to propel the evolution of capitalism, rendering capitalism itself a controllable revolutionary force. They can achieve this, they assert, by investing in whatever they consider to be a disruptive technology with the potential to change society. In so doing, they believe they can manipulate and control the development of new sociopolitical and socioeconomic systems and bring us closer to being ruled by the corporate monarchy they wish to form.

The “we” Andreessen refers to in his Techno Optimist Manifesto is a group consisting of Silicon Valley oligarchs—of which Andreessen is one—alongside Thiel, Musk, Sam Altman, Palmer Luckey, Larry Ellison, Joe Lonsdale, and David Sacks, etc. Joining them are a gaggle of NRx acolytes and aspiring oligarchs, like Balaji Srinivasan and Guillaume Verdon. Working together to shape the policies and initiatives of the current Trump administration, this core group is applying the Dark Enlightenment and installing Technocracy in the US. But the US isn’t the only nation-state undergoing such oligarch-led “transformation.”

Though it is a stretch to call Land and Yarvin’s ramblings “philosophy,” we could say that the Dark Enlightenment provides the philosophical underpinning for the move to a system of city-states. Technocracy outlines the social control mechanism—the operating system of the city-state if you like—that will surveil and engineer our behaviour should we find ourselves trapped in one of their corporatised city realms: gov-corp Technates.

The NRx technocrats’ ideas overlap with the blueprint already being implemented at the intergovernmental level by their senior globalist oligarch brethren—and they are overwhelmingly, though not exclusively, men. The global oligarchy wants to install a “Multipolar World Order” (MWO) as the final bureaucratic redesign of global governance prior to instigating firm global government—sometimes referred to as the New World Order—overseeing a patchwork of city-state realms.

This may all read like very bold claims, but we’ll explore the evidence demonstrating the fact in these two articles.

The Orbital Authority Sham

Certainly leading NRx “thinker” Curtis Yarvin is fully onboard with a proposed system of global dictatorship ruling a patchwork of city-state realms: the ultimate gov-corp Technate. In his 2024 piece “The Orbital Authority,” Yarvin metaphorically argues, as is his want, that weaponising space will make all forms of terrestrial warfare redundant. He posits that air, sea, and land forces will be rendered “obsolete” by the “Orbital Authority” that controls space weaponry and directs warfare from orbit.

Bear in mind that NRx technocrats like Yarvin view AI as their “philosopher’s stone”—symbolizing material and spiritual transformation. They disconnect AI from humanity and perceive it as a separate entity, as a “superintelligent” consciousness. In his article, Yarvin wrote:

Mars, god of war, is the father of all things. Orbit is the ultimate high ground. When we conquer orbit [. . .] we have conquered the Earth. [. . .] The most important task of any weapons system is to defend itself. Not only could a 21st-century [orbital weapons system] defeat a nuclear first strike, it could defeat any attempt to defeat the system itself. It would serve as a launch denial system. It would destroy any previously unannounced launch—rendering orbit a monopoly.
Evidently Yarvin envisages some sort of independent, autonomous, monopolistic AI “Orbital Authority.” Like the “father of all things” this weaponised superintelligence dominates the “ultimate high ground” to effectively conquer the Earth.

Yarvin’s fellow NRx technocrat Nick Land has long argued that capitalism is a simulacrum for AI, by which he means a distinct “non-human” intelligence. Land came to this conclusion as a result of his unusual interpretation of one of the basic tenets of Austrian Economics.

Formative Austrian Economist Friedrich Hayek observed that any market economy is an “information, processing system.” Austrian economists emphasise that individual actions and decisions drive markets and therefore, to a great extent, value is subjective (methodological individualism). Thus, for Austrian Economists, prices are the result of a decentralised information exchange at the whole capitalist economy scale.

In 2011, shortly before he published the Dark Enlightenment, this led Land to conclude:

What appears to humanity as the history of capitalism is an invasion from the future by an artificial intelligent space that must assemble itself entirely.
Of course, this is not what Austrian Economists like Hayek argued. In their model, the information system is formed by price signals emanating from the needs and desires of individual human beings. Though the complexity of all signals in a large market economy is beyond the analysis of any one individual or bureaucracy (economic calculation problem), there is nothing “artificial” about it. The price system is not a separate self assembling entity, as Land wants to believe, but rather the product of human interactions. It is a distinctly “organic” system, for want of a better term.

Sharing Land’s view that AI is, or will become, an independent entity beyond human intervention, in his 2024 article, Yarvin envisioned that “the Orbital Authority dominates, owns and controls the whole planet.” It is not difficult to appreciate that for Yarvin, Land and other NRx technocrats, “Orbital Authority” is a metaphor for ascendant, AI-controlled, automated and well-armed global governance systems.

Advocates of the Dark Enlightenment have been developing AI weapons technology for decades. Thiel’s Palantir, for example, has seen its 2025 second quarter sales jump by 48% due, in part, to the success of its Lavender, Gospel, and “Where’s Daddy” AI targeting systems. These have been deployed, with Palantir’s assistance, by the Ukrainian and Israeli militaries.

Because NRx technocrats like Musk, Land and Yarvin imagine AI to be a “superintelligence,” they present theories about the future of humanity that assume AI will inevitably become an independent, conscious entity that we will have no choice but to obey. They are certainly committed to engineering this future if they can.

Yarvin’s figurative “god of war”—Orbital Authority—is a typical example of the circular reasoning frequently exhibited by NRx technocrats. They imbue AI with abilities it doesn’t possess and then advocate AI as a solution to humanity’s problems based upon their unfounded insistence that AI possesses said abilities.

In truth, before we get to Self-Aware AI—which the NRx technocrats claim is inevitable—AI developers first have to overcome a whole range of tricky problems to achieve Theory of Mind AI. As Theory of Mind AI is currently purely hypothetical, the assumption that Self-Aware or Superintelligent AI is imminent is highly questionable, to say the least.

Indeed, we might wonder how it is possible for NRx technocrats to program a computer algorithm to be conscious when, as yet, no human being can define consciousness. As highlighted in March 2024 by Professor Arthur T. Johnson:

[A] sufficient definition of the nature of consciousness has not yet been satisfactorily established. How the brain conjures conscious awareness from the electrical activity of billions of individual nerve cells remains one of the great unanswered questions of life. And what this consciousness actually means is not easy to define. Trying to extend whatever is known about consciousness in living beings to an AGI [artificial generative intelligence] would be difficult, if not unreasonable, at this time.
Ideologically, not rationally, setting AI as their “philosopher’s stone,” the NRx technocrats seek to establish an international “patchwork” of AI-managed “neostates,” though we can accurately refer to them as gov-corp Technates. This dispersed network, they contend, will decentralise and localise authority.

Yarvin seemingly creates a paradox between decentralised authority and the absolute centralisation of all “Orbital Authority.” Such jarring contradictions are not uncommon for the NRx technocrats.

Yarvin’s proposed Orbital Authority will ensure the “Patchwork” will flourish because military conflict between the city-states will become impotent, if not impossible, under the Orbital Authority’s watchful eye and its ability to destroy any aggressor. So, in Yarvin’s view, it matters not who controls the Orbital Authority, only that it exists.

If you posit, as NRx technocrats do, that Orbital Authority—global government—will not be exercised by people but by the dispassionate logic of an AI “superintelligence,” then Orbital Authority is the great saviour protecting us from our own self-destructive urges. It is a “god” allowing us to decentralise into the Patchwork. Thus, sociopolitical decentralisation is enabled by the centralisation of all power and authority beyond humanity’s control.

The metaphorical Orbital Authority for which Yarvin advocates is a sham concept and he admits as much in his own musings.

Yarvin asks:

Where does the Orbital Authority come from? Who creates this force? Who are the people who operate it? [. . .] All good questions. But this is one future I would want to live in.
Yarvin likes the idea of a single, logical dictatorship ruling the Earth for no other reason than it fits with his own ambition to establish a worldwide structure of city-state realms. He essentially argues that a cohesive, overarching AI world order with the power to annihilate humanity will lead humanity to “flourish” in a network of “thousands of independent sovereign states and city-states.”

Yarvin casually dismisses the “good questions” he asks. The question of “who creates” and thus controls the imagined Orbital Authority ruling the entire patchwork planet is, he insinuates, of secondary importance. Like all NRx technocrats, Yarvin wants us to accept the fundamental principle that dictatorship is good.

NRx technocrat oligarchs, like Thiel and Musk, say they are opposed to any form of world government. Thiel claims he views world government to be the manifestation of the Antichrist. Nonetheless, the question of who rules is of primary importance to the global cartel of oligarchs who have, for generations, been plotting to establish themselves as unchallenged world rulers.

If, as NRx technocrats proclaim, they wish to avert world government, it appears their efforts to establish a patchwork of city-state realms is a monumental miscalculation. So much so, that we might suspect the NRx technocrat’s protestations are a ruse. Their globalist oligarch partners have been trying to construct exactly the same city-state network for decades, precisely because it better facilitates global governance and, thereafter, the move to global government—Orbital Authority.

In reality Thiel, Musk, Andreessen, and Sacks et al. are members of the same global oligarchy. Thiel and Palantir co-founder and CEO Alex Karp, for example, are on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group. Even the mainstream media concedes that the Bilderberg group has the authority to concentrate “control at the top of the Atlantic alliance [NATO].” A private oligarch network controlling NATO is approaching the Orbital Authority Yarvin imagines. Like Yarvin, it seems the mainstream media is only interested in the fact that private sector international authoritarianism exists, accepting its presence without question.

In all likelihood, Yarvin, Land, Thiel, Musk and Andreessen, etc., know that AI is not a potentially independent, artificial god—though they pretend it is and that its arrival is unavoidable. Yarvin certainly seems to infer that AI is and will always be a technological tool controlled by human beings, some of whom have very specific agendas.

As Yarvin reluctantly admits, the people who control his conceptualised “Orbital Authority” are not irrelevant. On the contrary, this is the key question that should concern us all..............



More here:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/10/investigative-reports/city-states-without-limits-part-1/

[shaberon]

The basic idea of Patchwork is that, as the crappy governments we inherited from history are smashed, they should be replaced by a global spiderweb of tens, even hundreds, of thousands of sovereign and independent mini-countries, each governed by its own joint-stock corporation without regard to the residents’ opinions.


Yes, of course they are.

Do they have anything specific to say about the past, or just babbling as usual?

Superficially, reversion towards the form of City-States may not be such a bad idea, just not that kind. Least of all technocratic corporations. Which means that is probably exactly what will be attempted. Certainly no one would ever allow an "Orbital Authority". However some of these people are so ridiculously rich that they *can* start putting together resources and actually do something that has a big effect. Their interest is to sell you something that keeps updating. At least that way you fail to enjoy what we already have. That way everything rots.

Government has one legitimate purpose: to protect us from these private interests.

[bojancan]

Trump is having... was having a big role in politics in 2025... has a big ripple effect all around the world... negative for sure!

Dec, 28
George Galloway
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YEAR OF THE GUN | Trump and Zelensky | Myanmar poll | Old world over | MOATS LIVE
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2025 has become the YEAR OF THE GUN — and George Galloway is LIVE to confront it. From Trump and Zelensky’s dangerous dance, to Gaza, Ukraine, Myanmar and the collapse of the old world order, tonight’s edition of The Mother of All Talk Shows lays bare a year defined by weapons, war, and the failure of diplomacy.

As power shifts east, institutions crack, and conflicts multiply, George examines how the language of peace has been replaced by the language of force — and what that means for the year ahead.

🎖 Retired Lt. Col. Anthony Aguilar — former US soldier and ex-worker at the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation — joins George with firsthand insight into Gaza, humanitarian failure, military reality, and the consequences of war decisions made far from the battlefield. His testimony cuts through spin and exposes what civilians are really facing.

📰 Max Blumenthal — award-winning journalist, author, and editor of The Grayzone — returns to MOATS to dissect US politics, Trump and Zelensky, media deception, Ukraine, Palestine, and why the “old world” is rapidly coming to an end. Few journalists have been more consistently right — or more fiercely attacked — for telling the truth.

Tonight George covers:
– Why 2025 is shaping up as the Year of the Gun, not diplomacy.
– Trump, Zelensky, and the politics of perpetual war.
– Gaza, Palestine, and the collapse of humanitarian credibility.
– Ukraine, Russia, and the grinding endgame.
– Myanmar and forgotten wars the media ignores.
– The old world order breaking — and what replaces it.
– Gayatri Galloway’s Social Media News Update tracking global reaction.
– Your calls LIVE from around the world.

[bojancan]

Always amazing... to see and hear some satire talk by both of them... Joanna and Michael!

Dec, 27
The Daily Beast
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Truth About Trump’s Miserable Mar-a-Lago Christmas | Inside Trump's Head
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Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to peel back what Christmas looks like inside Donald Trump’s carefully staged world at Mar-a-Lago .... a holiday less about family and warmth than performance, attention, and control.
From the bored, rope-off table at the center of the patio to Trump’s late-night torrent of Truth Social posts, Wolff maps how even Christmas becomes another arena for validation. They examine Melania’s rare flash of animation beside her father, the eerie surge of hyper-religious messaging from Trump-world, and the rituals that feel rehearsed rather than heartfelt. As the conversation widens, they trace how sagging TV ratings, Hollywood power plays, and proximity to Trump himself still dictate the action around him.

[bojancan]

Young generation... as Luke... smart 22 years young man... discusses Barron Trump's insane secret friendship....

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WTF?! Barron Trump's INSANE SECRET LEAKS!

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[bojancan]

I was reading about this girl at the time 1993 was raped by E and T .. it was article in Europe before 2000... as always I knew about this girl with alias name Katie, and I was placing this "stuff" year ago in this thread... now they are talking about this court document...

Jan. 01
Secular Talk
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Trump Accuser’s Bone Chilling Tell All Will Leave You Speechless | The Kyle Kulinski Show

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[bojancan]

Tim sits down with journalist Ryan Grim from Drop Site News to discuss the latest release of Epstein Files, how they implicate president Donald Trump, and what new questions they raise.


Dec, 31
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The Epstein Problem Just Got Worse
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[bojancan]

Very interesting talk about Trump... with Anne Elizabeth Applebaum.. she is an known American journalist and historian... she has written about the history of Communism and the development of civil society in Central and Eastern Europe... very interesting talk!


Jan, 01
PoliticsJOE
730K subscribers
Anne Applebaum: Donald Trump has reinvented reality
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This year we had Anne Applebaum in the studio to discuss the ideas in her book Autocracy Inc. During the conversation, Anne went into great depth about the MAGA movement's dismantling of democracy while in power, and how it has moved to question the very basis of fact.

[abmqa]

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David Icke is spot on, as usual with his recent views on the current situation. I wholeheartedly agree with everything that he addressed here. He's consistent with his views regardless of political allegiances. Oftentimes to his detriment.

[rgray222]

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David Icke is spot on, as usual with his recent views on the current situation. I wholeheartedly agree with everything that he addressed here. He's consistent with his views regardless of political allegiances. Oftentimes to his detriment.

It is always interesting (and a bit sad) to observe someone lose their moral reasoning. I have not always agreed with David, but I always believed he was travelling on the right path. When he began his journey down the Protocols of the Elders, he stepped into some sort of weird dimensional slipstream. He could still understand that powerful unseen forces were pulling the strings, but he no longer saw that he was being misled and manipulated. He is still on the right board, he is just moving the wrong pieces.

[bojancan]

Trump Family.... bunch of Thieves, Liars and Grifters...
Jan, 02
Occupy Democrats
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Trump SCRAMBLES As His Son's GOLD SCEHEME Just Got EXPOSED
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[rgray222]

Trump Family.... bunch of Thieves, Liars and Grifters...
Jan, 02
Occupy Democrats
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Trump SCRAMBLES As His Son's GOLD SCEHEME Just Got EXPOSED
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The Occupy Democrats website is like the North Star of political nonsense, guiding their hateful followers of all things Trump down a rabbit hole of unimaginable, inaccurate and dishonest information. Believe it or not, I am all in on attempting to discredit politicians you don't believe in. If you can't do it with honest information, then it's not worth doing at all. I even think it's OK if fake stuff slips through the cracks every once in a while, it happens. But you are advocating for the posting of content that expresses hatred towards Trump, without regard for factual accuracy, integrity, or even plausible believability.

[bojancan]

Everyone has their own opinion... and trust their own people... after all those criminalities Trump is doing... was doing... I trust Jack Smith! Trump is really con man and warmonger! Criminal... today he attack unlawfully Venezuela! Disgusting!!!! And still, we shall not forget to talk about friendship Epstein, Trump, Melania etc... criminals together....

Jan, 02

Secular Talk
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BREAKING: Jack Smith CONFIRMS Trump Was Going To Prison In LEAKED HEARING!
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[bojancan]

We around the world, will never forget Epstein, Maxwell, Trump, Melania friendships and their pedophilia doing... Trump thinks, he will be spared of these topics.... Epstein and Jack Smith... Disgusting behaviour of US, their boss and his good friends oligarchs ... looks like mafia's doing...

Jan, 03
Legal AF
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Trump INVADES Venezuela over OIL?!?! Maduro Indictment RELEASED…
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[bojancan]

Trump is very unhinged!!!! Unconstitutional and disgusting... and military just obeyed illegal orders... :facepalm:!!!


Jan, 03
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Trump FALLS ASLEEP as ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE
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[shaberon]

This is beyond the figureheads.

It is more difficult because the entire Republican Party moves in lockstep.

And so I think what is required is to drown out, flood, and swarm this entire monologue. Don't use junk to do it.

What is firstly required is more Congressional oversight, and, most likely, an impeachment process. That can all be done smoothly and effectively. It's slow -- H. R. 64 is a bit late to prevent the main military action in Venezuela's case.

We don't have an "answer"; the only possible first step would consist of Congressional authority to greatly reduce all the military buildup and intervention.

Help me figure out a coalition to basically de-militarize the United States, and, I'll go with that. It would be too difficult to concoct an entire political platform that would work to everyone's satisfaction, reducing the focus to one issue will have to suffice.

This violence has even been rebuked in offbeat places like Switzerland and Austria. The country is simply plummeting from the world's view while the 2026 actions are uncomfortably close to World War Three performed by the Fourth Reich.

It's beyond discussion. Help me figure out how to prevent having my taxes stolen and used by Republican vampires.

[shaberon]

Furthermore, I'm going to add that what we are seeing today is an exact match as recently posted about the underlying theme of Avalon in The Anglo-Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=1697067&viewfull=1#post1697067).

If you overlook some of the unnecessary details -- e. g., the use of nuclear or biological weaponry -- it's just the same MI6 equation of cash in --> random violence out. This has just been openly confessed that foreign agents are trying to find a way to provoke the Iranian police, to which the answer is Military!

The desire is to re-install the Shahs, not because that has anything to do with "democracy", but because they were willing to oppress the Iranian people so the oil could be removed for the benefit of others.

As far as I can tell, the U. S. Sec. State not only just admitted, but, proudly promoted the exact same thing that Bill was told years ago by some mysterious "insider".

If that is the purpose of the website, then I would think we would all lean towards a similar view, and be looking at ways to drain the power of this thing.

Because I am not a nationalist, I offer the reminder that state secession is a legitimate means to extricate oneself. Otherwise, it would take a radical shift of priorities by the Congress. Yes, it is somewhat unbearable that this huge military budget goes on, instead of being re-invested into the domestic general welfare. Or, not being taken out of our pockets in the first place.

There's no excuse for what is being done.

[bojancan]

HEY MR. DONALD AND MELANIA... NOTHING WILL DISTRACT US FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES, not even an ILLEGAL WAR...

[rgray222]

This is beyond the figureheads.

It is more difficult because the entire Republican Party moves in lockstep.

And so I think what is required is to drown out, flood, and swarm this entire monologue. Don't use junk to do it.

What is firstly required is more Congressional oversight, and, most likely, an impeachment process. That can all be done smoothly and effectively. It's slow -- H. R. 64 is a bit late to prevent the main military action in Venezuela's case.

We don't have an "answer"; the only possible first step would consist of Congressional authority to greatly reduce all the military buildup and intervention.

Help me figure out a coalition to basically de-militarize the United States, and, I'll go with that. It would be too difficult to concoct an entire political platform that would work to everyone's satisfaction, reducing the focus to one issue will have to suffice.

This violence has even been rebuked in offbeat places like Switzerland and Austria. The country is simply plummeting from the world's view while the 2026 actions are uncomfortably close to World War Three performed by the Fourth Reich.

It's beyond discussion. Help me figure out how to prevent having my taxes stolen and used by Republican vampires.




Furthermore, I'm going to add that what we are seeing today is an exact match as recently posted about the underlying theme of Avalon in The Anglo-Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=1697067&viewfull=1#post1697067).

If you overlook some of the unnecessary details -- e. g., the use of nuclear or biological weaponry -- it's just the same MI6 equation of cash in --> random violence out. This has just been openly confessed that foreign agents are trying to find a way to provoke the Iranian police, to which the answer is Military!

The desire is to re-install the Shahs, not because that has anything to do with "democracy", but because they were willing to oppress the Iranian people so the oil could be removed for the benefit of others.

As far as I can tell, the U. S. Sec. State not only just admitted, but, proudly promoted the exact same thing that Bill was told years ago by some mysterious "insider".

If that is the purpose of the website, then I would think we would all lean towards a similar view, and be looking at ways to drain the power of this thing.

Because I am not a nationalist, I offer the reminder that state secession is a legitimate means to extricate oneself. Otherwise, it would take a radical shift of priorities by the Congress. Yes, it is somewhat unbearable that this huge military budget goes on, instead of being re-invested into the domestic general welfare. Or, not being taken out of our pockets in the first place.

There's no excuse for what is being done.

I think casting your stones toward the Republicans is giving a pass to the real culprits. I had a good laugh at your comment about the Republican vampires. We believe and act upon what we observe, and yet there are times when we remain unaware or even mystified by the existence of unseen forces and entities that are exerting influence over critical events on earth, effectively shaping the course of history and human affairs. Most people remain oblivious to the true forces that shape these affairs, leaving no chance to alter their course. Simply being aware of their existence offers a shield, both physically and mentally. Most people look no further than the obvious.

[bojancan]

Always I was with my opinion so strong against Trump as a human being... more so as a man on very very high position and very responsible one... my words can be "polluted" even more dramatically and drastically with NOT pro Trump characteristics of him... but I expressed my view on this many many times in this thread... now, all my discernment about Trump... also with Epstein stuff... not president of peace, grifter, liar, provocateur, con.. was proven correct...
Bellow interesting article:

President Trump Is a Warmonger
Whether Trump supporters here at home are willing or in any fashion able to hold Trump to his antiwar rhetoric and blunt his penchant for using military force remains to be seen.
by William Hartung

Earlier this month, the Trump administration released its new National Security Strategy, or NSS. Normally, such documents are poor predictors of what’s likely to happen in the real world. They are more like branding tools that communicate the attitudes of a given administration while rarely offering a detailed or accurate picture of its likely policies.

The reason documents like the NSS are of limited import is simple enough: foreign and military policies aren’t set by documents but by power and ideology. Typically enough, the current U.S. approach to the world flows from struggles among representatives of contending interest groups, some of which, like the military-industrial complex (MIC), have a significant advantage in the fight. The weapons industry and its allies in the Pentagon and Congress wield a wide array of tools of influence, including tens of millions of dollars in campaign contributions, more than 1,000 lobbyists, and jobs tied to military-related facilities in the states and districts of key members of Congress. The MIC — which my colleague Ben Freeman and I refer to in our new book as the trillion-dollar war machine — also has considerable influence over the institutions that shape our view of the world, from the media to DC think tanks, Hollywood, the gaming industry, and our universities.

But the power and influence of the war machine are not going completely unchallenged. The grip of militarism and the institutions that profit from it are indeed being challenged by organizations like The Poor People’s Campaign: A Call for Moral Revival; Dissenters, a youth antimilitarism group based in Chicago; antiwar veterans organizations like About Face, Common Defense, and Veterans for Peace; longstanding peace groups like the Friends Committee on National Legislation and Peace Action; networks like People Over Pentagon and Dismantle the Military-Industrial Complex; the ceasefire and Palestinian rights movements on U.S. campuses and beyond; and groups working for racial and economic justice, gay and trans rights, immigration reform, the demilitarization of the police, or compensation for environmental damage caused by nuclear weapons testing and other military activities. As such organizations coalesce, bringing together tens of millions of us whose lives and prospects are impacted by this country’s ever-growing war machine, let’s hope it might be possible to create the power needed to build a better, more tolerant, and more peaceful world, one that meets the needs of the majority of its people, rather than endlessly squandering precious resources on war and preparations for more of it.

So why pay attention to that new strategy document if what really determines our safety and security lies elsewhere? There are several reasons to do so.

First, the NSS has prompted discussion in the mainstream media and elite circles of what U.S. priorities in the world should actually be — and such a discussion needs to be expanded to include the perspectives of people and organizations actually suffering the consequences of our militarized domestic and foreign policies.
Second, that strategy paper reflects the unnerving intentions and worldview of the current administration, which, of course, has the power to determine whether this country is at war or peace.

Finally, it suggests just how the Trump administration would like to be perceived. As such, it should be considered a weapon in the debate over what kind of country the United States should be.

Touting the “President of Peace”

From the start, the submission letter that accompanies the new strategy document is pure Donald Trump. In case you hadn’t noticed, the current occupant of the Oval Office would have us believe that everything — every single thing! — he does is bigger, better, and more beautiful than anything that ever came before it. And that’s definitely the case, in the first year of his second term, when it comes to his view of what this country’s national security policies should actually be. As the letter puts it:

“Over the past nine months, we have brought our nation — and the world — back from the brink of catastrophe and disaster. After four years of weakness, extremism, and deadly failures, my administration has moved with urgency and historic speed to restore American strength at home and abroad, and bring peace and stability to our world.
”No administration in history has brought about such a dramatic turnaround in so short a time.“

Needless to say, we’re expected to attribute that alleged American revival to the brilliance and tough-guy attitudes of the president and his team. But any reasonable American should instantly have doubts about that. After all, one of the Trump administration’s proudest accomplishments, as the new document notes, has been getting “radical gender ideology and woke lunacy out of our military.” Or, to put it slightly differently, under the guise of its crusade against DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion), the administration has effectively dismantled programs designed to reduce racism, misogyny, and anti-gay and anti-trans violence in the ranks of the military.

Whether the programs aimed at reducing entrenched discrimination in those ranks were ever sufficient is certainly doubtful, but that discrimination in the military needs to be addressed should have been and should still be beyond question. To cite just one example, a 2024 study by political geographer Jennifer Greenberg conducted for the Costs of War Project at Brown University found that there were more than 70,000 cases of sexual assault in the U.S. military in 2021 and 2023 (the years covered by her analysis). Her report also noted that, “on average, over the course of the war in Afghanistan, 24 percent of active-duty women and 1.9 percent of active-duty men experienced sexual assault.” Pretending that widespread sexual violence doesn’t exist in the U.S. military or dismissing it as an example of “radical gender ideology and woke lunacy” should be considered, at best, a policy equivalent of criminal negligence. And it’s certainly not a great look for the person who desperately wants to be known as the “president of peace.”

But our commander-in-chief is nothing if not persistent (and predictable). In his introduction to the new strategy document, I’m sure you won’t be shocked to learn that President Trump takes the opportunity to pat himself on the back for allegedly ending “eight raging conflicts” in his first eight months in office — including those between Cambodia and Thailand, Kosovo and Serbia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, India and Pakistan, and Israel and Iran.

Of course, residents of many of those countries can be forgiven for not being aware of President Trump’s purported role in bringing relative peace to their regions or, in some of those cases, for failing to note that the peaceful situations he claims to have brought about don’t even exist. And they would be right to be skeptical. After all, this is the same president who has decimated the U.S. diplomatic corps and dismantled Washington’s main economic and humanitarian aid organization, the U.S. Agency for International Development — hardly the actions of a president of global peace.

Trump’s rhetoric in his introductory letter contrasts with some of the more sober passages in the document itself. His ranting and self-praise, however, are undoubtedly of more relevance when it comes to understanding the world that we’re actually in than the words in the body of that strategy’s blueprint. If his time in office tells us anything, it’s that his administration’s policies are heavily influenced by his personal desires and resentments, whether or not they square with existing laws, procedures, or policy pronouncements.

The Donroe Doctrine: A 19th Century Strategy for the 21st Century World

The aspect of the newly announced military strategy that has gotten the most attention (and may be the closest to the president’s heart) is its focus not on the rest of the world but on the Western Hemisphere, including what the president has called the “Trump Corollary” to the Monroe Doctrine, or what’s come to be known as the “Donroe Doctrine.”

The hemispheric focus includes the administration’s harsh immigration crackdown. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is now literally kidnapping people off the city streets of this country, often regardless of their actual immigration status and absent the alleged criminal histories that have been used to justify its activities. President Trump sees this wave of repression as a badge of honor, arguing that “starting on my first day in office, we restored the sovereign borders of the United States and deployed the military to stop the invasion of our country.”

The hyper-militarization of the border has been paralleled by a wildly more aggressive posture in the hemisphere as a whole, most notably in the repeated attacks on alleged drug-trafficking boats in the Caribbean Sea, the waters off of Venezuela, and even the eastern Pacific Ocean, and the preparations for what could become a regime-change war against the government of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. No matter that his country poses no direct threat whatsoever to the United States. And Republican calls for a full-scale war against that nation are occurring despite the disastrous results of this country’s regime-change policies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and beyond in this century.

The attacks on those defenseless ships, targeting individuals who pose no direct threat to the United States and haven’t even been proven to be involved in drug trafficking, violate international law and are being carried out without the approval of Congress. That was no less true of the recent seizure of a Venezuelan cargo ship transporting oil to Asia and the imposition of sanctions on six more oil-carrying ships.

Unfortunately, waging war without input from Congress has been the norm in U.S. military interventions of this century. Data generated by the Military Intervention Project at Tufts University indicates that the United States has used military force or engaged in outright warfare 30 times since 2001, with Congress largely on the sidelines. And rarely have those interventions achieved anything like their stated objectives, as documented by the Costs of War Project, which has shown that America’s post-9/11 war on terror has cost at least $8 trillion, involved the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians, and left a huge cohort of U.S. veterans with physical and psychological injuries, all without faintly achieving the stated goals of promoting democracy or stability in the targeted nations.

Can the Trump Administration End Endless Wars?

Despite its increasingly aggressive posture in the Western Hemisphere (and on U.S. soil), some analysts hold out hope that the Trump administration will ultimately reduce the frequency of U.S. military intervention globally and perhaps even “end endless wars.” There is rhetoric in the new strategy document that could support such a notion, but the real question is whether the president will act on it in any meaningful way.

Judging by its rhetoric alone, the administration’s strategy document would seem to suggest at least an implicit reduction in the use of force overseas, as evidenced in its discussion of strategy:

“A strategy must evaluate, sort, and prioritize. Not every country, region, issue, or cause — however worthy — can be the focus of American strategy…American strategies since the end of the Cold War have fallen short — they have been laundry lists of wishes or desired end states; have not clearly defined what we want but instead stated vague platitudes.”

The document then goes further, seeming to denounce the American war machine and the drive for U.S. military dominance globally:

“After the end of the Cold War, American foreign policy elites convinced themselves that permanent American domination of the entire world was in the best interests of our country… Our elites badly miscalculated America’s willingness to shoulder forever global burdens to which the American people saw no connection to the national interest. They overestimated America’s ability to fund, simultaneously, a massive welfare-regulatory-administrative state alongside a massive military, diplomatic, intelligence, and foreign aid complex.”

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth reinforced such themes in a December 6th speech at the Reagan National Defense Forum, while highlighting the administration’s usual condemnations of efforts to reduce discrimination in the military or this country or address climate change. As he summed it up, “The War Department will not be distracted by democracy building, interventionism, undefined wars, regime change, climate change, moralizing and feckless nation building.”

Taken seriously, such observations would lead to a sharp reduction in the American global military footprint of 750 foreign bases, more than 170,000 troops deployed overseas, a Navy designed to support combat anywhere in the world, dozens of ongoing “counterterror” operations globally from Somalia to Yemen, and arms-supplying relationships with more than half the nations on earth.

Needless to say, so far that hasn’t happened, whether a Republican or a Democrat was at the helm of the administration. But as with President Trump’s professions of being a peacemaker or his occasional rhetorical jabs at “war profiteers” and “warmongers,” the anti-interventionist language in some of the administration’s new National Security Strategy is clearly aimed mainly at those parts of the president’s base here at home who are indeed sick of war and skeptical of large corporations and the “deep state.”

All too sadly, President Donald Trump, Secretary of “War” Pete Hegseth, and the rest of the crew seem all too willing to make war in the Western Hemisphere in a significant fashion, while essentially ignoring the U.S. military’s other warring activities elsewhere on the planet. (Only recently, for instance, U.S. Africa Command confirmed that it had launched 111 airstrikes in Somalia in 2025.) And whether Trump supporters here at home are willing or in any fashion able to hold Trump to his antiwar rhetoric and blunt his penchant for using military force remains to be seen.

The Fight for Peace

To resist and reverse the militarization of American foreign policy will mean speaking truth to power, while working to debunk the myths that rationalize this country’s permanent war footing. But it will also require confronting power with power by generating a broad people’s movement against militarism in all its manifestations, including the militarization of foreign policy, immigration enforcement, and policing in this country, as well as the military’s role in generating staggering amounts of greenhouse gases and so accelerating climate change and threatening public health.

There are people and organizations fighting on all those fronts. Building a network of resistance that respects the priorities of each of them will take dedicated organizing and relationship-building. Much of that work is already underway. But the question remains: Can the public interest overcome the special interests and bankrupt ideologies that continue to make war and the threat of more war America’s face to the world? It’s a question on which none of us can afford to remain neutral.

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/donald-trump-warmonger

[shaberon]

I think casting your stones toward the Republicans is giving a pass to the real culprits. I had a good laugh at your comment about the Republican vampires. We believe and act upon what we observe, and yet there are times when we remain unaware or even mystified by the existence of unseen forces and entities that are exerting influence over critical events on earth, effectively shaping the course of history and human affairs. Most people remain oblivious to the true forces that shape these affairs, leaving no chance to alter their course. Simply being aware of their existence offers a shield, both physically and mentally. Most people look no further than the obvious.


Can you be more specific?

I have tried to describe that since the Revolution, we have been in a dispute with a relatively identifiable league of individual human beings originally categorized as Wall Street, and now this.

That's just one narrowly-defined particular little group that infested New York and D. C.. It may be only one example, but I think it may be on the important side if it has been sitting there the whole time and now here we are.

If we re-ify the unknown, that's asking to be manipulated. Or, it is a driver of systems based on "threats".


The most appropriate response to 2026 would be to form the:


Bolivarian Party


with intended reforms along the lines of:


anti-imperialism

nationalization of infrastructure and public interests


That would be really easy to do right now.

[shaberon]

President Trump Is a Warmonger
Whether Trump supporters here at home are willing or in any fashion able to hold Trump to his antiwar rhetoric and blunt his penchant for using military force remains to be seen.
by William Hartung


The grip of militarism and the institutions that profit from it are indeed being challenged by organizations like The Poor People’s Campaign: A Call for Moral Revival; Dissenters, a youth antimilitarism group based in Chicago; antiwar veterans organizations like About Face, Common Defense, and Veterans for Peace; longstanding peace groups like the Friends Committee on National Legislation and Peace Action; networks like People Over Pentagon and Dismantle the Military-Industrial Complex




I have no organizing power, so, I find it of interest to put together those who have raised a similar mentality. Overcoming this Cold War addiction is critical. Part of the immediate visual resistance was done by a "Party for Socialism and Liberation" and:



In Washington, activists demonstrated outside the White House to protest the US strikes, voicing their opposition to any new war involving the United States and condemning President Donald Trump’s policy toward Latin America. Participants described the operation as an assault on the sovereignty of an independent state and warned of its humanitarian and political consequences.

Speaking to US and Arab media outlets, some demonstrators expressed fears of a repeat of the devastating scenarios seen in past wars. They argued that the conflict has little to do with defending democracy or combating drug trafficking and instead is aimed at securing control over Venezuela’s oil resources. The protesters said the operation serves the interests of US oil companies rather than the American or Venezuelan people, calling for an immediate de-escalation and respect for Venezuela’s sovereignty.

Organizers said the New York rally was one of more than 80 protest actions held on Saturday across US cities, organized by the ANSWER Coalition, a group known for its opposition to wars and US military interventions.

In Los Angeles, demonstrators gathered despite heavy rain, holding signs reading “Stop bombing Venezuela now!” and “No blood for oil.” They stressed the need to oppose what they described as an illegal war, warning that the Trump administration’s efforts to shape Venezuela’s future leadership following Maduro’s arrest raise further concerns about the dangers of direct US interference in the affairs of a sovereign nation.

The protests come amid mounting international and domestic criticism of the US military operation, which Washington announced earlier this week and which led to the seizure of Maduro and his wife and their removal from Venezuelan territory—an act widely described as a flagrant violation of the principles of sovereignty and non-intervention.


It is well worth informing ourselves about a few of these things. Maybe we can work our way out of this mess. I'm sure if we don't try, we won't.

[bojancan]

I need to place this Monolog by George Galloway also here.. this administration with Trump have lost all moral integrity... it's gone now.... also for many of my friends, who were trying to defend him year back... it's gone... it's gone...

We are not forgetting Epstein Trump Saga! Trump and his circle will be exposed!

MONOLOGUE: Trump has metaphorsed into Caligula
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[bojancan]

Get some news about Melania... all will be exposed! Her Einstein visa... she is a big pretender and con woman as her husband... all world knows both of them as a good friends with Maxell and late Epstein, for decades... they were good friends with Clintons, that time Donald was a Democrat... we all know, how they pretend that they are a big enemies nowadays .. in front of the world for sure... but behind the curtain, they are in together still friends... and we knew her well in EU too, in her native country Slovenia too! She is NOT GOOD human being as her HUSBAND!

Jan, 04
Melania Trump IN WORLD OFF HELL in Lawsuit DONALD FEARED MOST!!!
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In a bonehead and thoughtless move, did Melania— our purported nationalized First Lady — just open herself up to proctologist style cross examination under oath about whether she lives with Trump at Mar a Lago or the White House, or really lives with her son Barron at Trump Tower in New York, and what documents she has to prove any of it?
Michael Popok examines the procedure that Melania will be forced to use to prove she is a resident of “Florida” and not New York, as she attempt to get a Trump-appointed Federal Judge to save her from journalist Michael Wolff’s state court suit against her after she threatened him with a $1 Billion Dollar defamation case. Popok focuses on just how much this judge is going to allow Wolff’s lawyers to delve into Melania’s marriage, immigration status, lifestyle and residency.

[rgray222]

I think casting your stones toward the Republicans is giving a pass to the real culprits. I had a good laugh at your comment about the Republican vampires. We believe and act upon what we observe, and yet there are times when we remain unaware or even mystified by the existence of unseen forces and entities that are exerting influence over critical events on earth, effectively shaping the course of history and human affairs. Most people remain oblivious to the true forces that shape these affairs, leaving no chance to alter their course. Simply being aware of their existence offers a shield, both physically and mentally. Most people look no further than the obvious.


Can you be more specific?

I have tried to describe that since the Revolution, we have been in a dispute with a relatively identifiable league of individual human beings originally categorized as Wall Street, and now this.

That's just one narrowly-defined particular little group that infested New York and D. C.. It may be only one example, but I think it may be on the important side if it has been sitting there the whole time and now here we are.

If we re-ify the unknown, that's asking to be manipulated. Or, it is a driver of systems based on "threats".


The most appropriate response to 2026 would be to form the:


Bolivarian Party


with intended reforms along the lines of:


anti-imperialism

nationalization of infrastructure and public interests


That would be really easy to do right now.

I don't want to get carried away on this topic, at least not on a thread where this is not really the topic of discussion. My point is, there are people and circumstances that we assign blame to when, in fact, we are actually being manipulated. The left/right - republican/democrat trope is custom-made for deceit and misdirection.

[bojancan]

NOT TRUMP... the average person will have to pay the costs.... always in US and anywhere... never forget "socialise the costs but privatize the profits" is the US mantra....
Socialism for the rich.... capitalism for the poor.... TRUMAN SHOW with criminals...

Jan, 05
SNEAKO DESTROYS MATT WALSH VENEZUELA LIES ‪@SNEAKO‬
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[bojancan]

It is so obscure and crazy to watch unfolding of those up above how they think, react and doing... I am not following US politicians that I like or not like... just observing and seeing how bad ripple effect they will cause out in the world... as here I am listening Kelly... I do not know about him much... but he is having points...

This administration is above us where we can see... what they should not do but they are doing... they say, they are a Good Christians.. calling Jesus their friend... I see them like they all are possessed byVanity, Greed, Lust, Envy, Anger, Glutteny and Sloth...

Jan, 05
Brian Tyler Cohen
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Mark Kelly drops BOMB on Pete Hegseth for trying to downgrade his rank
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[bojancan]

Trump: "Donroe Doctrine" ... we say administration with mafia policies...
Jan, 05
The Daily Beast
523K subscribers
How Trump's Big Moment Left Him Exposed: Rothkopf | The Daily Beast Podcast
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David Rothkopf joins Joanna Coles to explain why Trump’s move in Venezuela looks less like foreign policy and more like a heist. Rothkopf walks through the rushed effort to topple Maduro, the boastful talk about “running” Venezuela, and the alarming reality that there was no plan for what came next — who governs, who controls the oil, or how any of it ends.

Together, they examine what Rothkopf calls Trump’s “mafia doctrine”: kidnap the leader, seize the resources, ignore the law, and dare the world to respond. It’s chaotic, risky, and deeply consequential — for Venezuela, for America, and for everyone watching what comes next.

[shaberon]

My point is, there are people and circumstances that we assign blame to when, in fact, we are actually being manipulated. The left/right - republican/democrat trope is custom-made for deceit and misdirection.


Yes, we know that.

I am going to do the manipulating.

This negative image of Trump thread is nine years old and it is from outside the United States.

I'm not sure I even paid attention to it in his first term because it was so obvious.

Since, again, it is NOT the Answer, I may have to agree a little more strongly this time.

I like "Bolivarian" which is quintessentially true here but it might be too strong for sensitive Anglo ears.

"Anti-Administration" would again be true but too limited in scope.

Did you see what I have to do if I *don't* want a Republican Congressman this year? My Democrat candidate is running Republican because the district is so solid a Democrat stands no chance. She's a crypto. It's actually her second run-to-lose campaign in order to make noise about the new district map. Everything has been re-drawn according to the figures that would have made John McCain President.

What do you think happens if I take that across the line and throw it into a billion dollar fire?


Moreover, I suggest anyone do that. Go look at Congressional Districts in your state, Wikipedia has it. Are they being adjusted?

I would call it a scandalous attempt to stack Congress.

Just like our Congressional candidate, there isn't a word for this. But we can very easily make a platform that is simply against a particular Party. That's far easier than me going in some deep level about the Constitution or whatever. And what would mainly be needed is to constrain them to a minority in the House and Senate, museum-like. The intent would be to throw people in there who are not afraid to talk about radical policy changes at a substantial level. That are not the same things we get from this same Party.

Moreover, if we combine this with the momentum from the Mayor of NYC, I would say he is the closest thing to the basis of any new third party...that if you want any chance of any viable long-term alternative maybe something could be born from that. It would zip up the east coast so there wouldn't be any weird sh!t between the north and the south.

It's a very simple mnemonic, as of 2026, what do you mean "reduce the power of the Republican Party", anti-imperialism. Followed by a drawdown of militarization generally. It's understandable if your forces were on the U. S. territory. Like if you really need to protect California from the air force of Mexico, maybe you do. Disintegrate the Cold War mentality. Maybe I can get my candidate to from the Orwellian Party. It's like some unfinished business. I don't know what to call something that hasn't happened yet. I like the actual words that are the same as what happened before, but that doesn't make them actually good choices.

If you have been involved with this thread because you generally agree with the title, it's not personal, it's not him, it's the Party.

If this main concept can be vented through the legitimate processes, then, it may channel energy away from potentially angry mobs. Most of those just made me angry. Currently I get a sense of ripeness for a principle of government that is against what just happened. What to call it.

[bojancan]

All is coming together... Trump Trojan horse for Technocrats.. agree with Kyle!

Jan, 05
Secular Talk
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The Hidden Reason For Trump’s Venezuela War They Don’t Want You To Know | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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SURPRISE! 'Anti-War’ MAGA Voters Were Completely Full Of Sh*t | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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[shaberon]

Actually, I have to adjust the rhetoric and I have to come up with it within a few days.

It's going to have to ride the first wave of etching the Republican Party from the inside.


This is catch-up, it has already gone to the Washington Post with the registration switch last year, it's not news. I wandered into this by accident because I went berserk when I saw the new maps because I understand the consequences.


First of all, I checked out the local campaign and I would say it is satisfying enough, there's things in it that are para-revolutionary in scope. She is a Unicorn and has put together an accessible enough way for a person to get an idea about the problem that has been created. What it means, is, if she doesn't do this, the same guy just sits in office without lifting a finger.


That's because usually no one pays attention to the Primaries which are coming up soon and you have until the first few days of February to register if you want to take this seriously.

If you just wait until the General Elections in November, you just get the one same candidate. No competition.


Now, to the common understanding, that is grounds for a Revolution. I would say the mere suggestion of it is. For the time being I think the flash message is the only way to change Congress by normal means is to go to the Primaries. That shouldn't have to be a big deal, but this is a rigged situation.


This means it's going to have to use some shill Republicans, which is very easy to define, they don't automatically vote on Party lines.



Get me the Mayor of NYC on a stable platform and I'll give you the south like this:




​I'm done with the leaders in DC (from both parties). We need to vote all of them out and start fresh - with leaders who actually listen.

​

And the only way to get rid of them is to game the corrupt, bullsh*t maps they've drawn to protect their power. That means primaries.



It's the only free and legal way to affect the course of destiny.

100% simple truth.

It may be possible to get this to purge itself without the more severe way I do things. I couldn't do what she's doing. It satisfies the same demand, without being so inflammatory. It's like a step-down transformer of something so grisly and abominating you can't really tell.

The lacuna compared to the way I would put it in regard to a Party would mean you would have to vote for any non-Republican Senator. But that works differently. The maps are about Congress. And because they are rigged, it means unless they are challenged in the Primaries, you will always get an excessive number of the same sitting Republican Congressmen.


It's actually a highly partisan issue, but our new candidate has spun it in a way that is probably far more entry-level than anything I would ever come up with.

If we can take this year and sort of crush the dual-monoparty thing and do anything in the name of a few basic principles I would be fine with that.

I don't know what we can do in a matter of days, it may take another two-year cycle. Is this common knowledge? They're going around shackling you to the same politicians?

Help me help you move this into the halls of power, and I will. This is a good time to make a new synthesis that has an anti-war view sort of inherently. Otherwise we will definitely get the same thing.

[sdv]

shaberon ... Trump really is that bad, but you see him through the 'lens' of an American way of thinking. The FFG shared some of the session they did on Trump. In my own words, they basically saw that he has been placed in that position to collapse the system. IMO, revolution/major disruption can be very successful in destroying a corrupt system that is almost impossible to reform (the USSR went for the collapse option, but without a violent revolution; China chose reform, carefully carried out in a series of 5-year plans). Just my opinion, but the work you are doing is important even though I have said the it is impossible to reform the system. The carefully thought out work you are doing gives America a chance to make revolutionary change and sweep away the corruption, without a violent revolution. Trump is not going to do that. He is the disruptor and destroyer. Supposedly it is the gobalists who are waiting in the wings to take control when Trump has collapsed it all. Trump is not going to rescue America from these globalists (whoever they are) ... he is their tool (unknowingly). It will be people like you who will have to step up and rebuild, and not let the globalists take control. (I don't think they are inherently evil, but I am not keen on a one world government in the hands of an elite group of people.)

[shaberon]

...he has been placed in that position to collapse the system. IMO, revolution/major disruption can be very successful in destroying a corrupt system that is almost impossible to reform (the USSR went for the collapse option, but without a violent revolution; China chose reform, carefully carried out in a series of 5-year plans). Just my opinion, but the work you are doing is important even though I have said the it is impossible to reform the system. The carefully thought out work you are doing gives America a chance to make revolutionary change and sweep away the corruption, without a violent revolution. Trump is not going to do that.


It may be.

In one sense, it has probably been mathematically impossible to resolve the federal debt for generations.

The "system" in the sense of numbers and mechanics, etc., may not be salvageable. I'm not particularly interested if the Federal entity survives.

On a human level, we can make reforms. It is not that hard. He only has power because he gets 100% support from the same old Congress and Senate. Every single one of them can be replaced very easily, or, if not every one, enough to where that grip on power is gone.

[bojancan]

So very late Megyn... your eyes had finally opened .................... so much love, trust and adoration you gave to Trump... when I was always having this knowing/feeling he is a pretender, lier, con....

Megyn Kelly HUMILIATES Both Trump AND Fox News
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[shaberon]

Here's the thing about this "fishy business". If you think someone is trafficking narcotics, why cannot you catch them on U. S. territory and go in with probable cause?

If you're so smart you know it is coming from a point of origin, then if you prove it by normal means, we might go "oh, you're right. Glad you could track those". That would be very easy to do.

But that's not what this is about. It's a transition from the Bush-era investigation of a lot of dumb facts leading to an unreasonably aggressive move, to just an unreasonably aggressive move that plainly says so.

Elsewhere in the world, this is perceived as Recycled Justifications, Same Strategy (https://english.almanar.com.lb/article/8311/):



When Donald Trump declares, “Nobody can stop us,” he is not issuing a threat alone—he is articulating the end of restraint as a governing principle of US power. What once required elaborate justifications, fabricated intelligence, and multilateral cover is now asserted openly: force creates legality, resources validate intervention, and sovereignty survives only at Washington’s discretion.



Considering this is really...a desperate cash grab:



Trump’s warlord rhetoric—reducing geopolitics to loot, threats, and spectacle—reflects an empire that no longer invests in persuasion. Iraq demonstrated that falsehood incurs no penalty. Venezuela tests whether justification itself is now unnecessary. The shift from nation-building to asset stripping, from legitimacy to force, marks not confidence but decay.

When an empire declares that “nobody can stop us,” it is not announcing strength. It is acknowledging that the systems designed to restrain power have failed.

Venezuela, like Iraq before it, is not an exception. It is a test case. And history suggests that empires which abandon even the language of law eventually discover that power alone is a fragile foundation.


What I am observing is fewer and fewer Americans are interacting with these threads. I'm guessing this is fallout from the "Q material". There obviously is a side that thoroughly agrees with the recent intervention, and, you can't talk to them. Conversely, we used to get scorching stuff every day whether it was the FDA, or Homeland Security, or something revolting about taxes, whatever, and now it is this non-negotiable black and white thing.

As a critic, I haven't thought "defund the courts" and all of that was the right way to rebel, and as of now I'm simply going to select a candidate.

Here, you can replace the Same Thing with something different if you actually just do it. I think it could work, that it could be more than just talk, that we could at least get rid of this obsolete unending loop of the Same Thing.

[bojancan]

No US presidents and Western leaders have been criminally held accountable... no one for war crimes... for killing presidents of other countries, no one for genocide, invasions and theft of resources of other countries... disgusting!

Jan,06
Democracy Now!
3.13M subscribers

Trump's Plan to Seize Greenland Would "Militarize the Arctic," Trample Indigenous Rights
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Following the U.S. attack on Venezuela, the Trump administration has renewed its campaign to take over Greenland, which has been controlled by Denmark for more than 300 years. The White House says it's considering "a range of options," including the use of military force. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen has warned that if the U.S. were to attack Greenland, it would spell the end of NATO.

"Greenland is not up for sale," says Aaju Peter, a Greenlandic Inuit activist and attorney, who says Indigenous Greenlanders want their independence from both the U.S. and Denmark.

We also speak with analyst Pavel Devyatkin, who says the U.S. is "acting like a rogue state" and enacting a policy of "pure imperialism."

[JackMcThorn]

What I am observing is fewer and fewer Americans are interacting with these threads.

I missed that detail but I noticed how much non-americans care so much about what is happening in america at the expense of their own stress levels. [AND too much time spent on propaganda.]

I think Trump is not a deep thinker. He does not demonstrate long-term thoughtfulness nor care in communication. But what to do with a system that perceives the lessor of two evils as somehow the better choice? [AND the only choice.]

I think fewer americans interact with these threads because they realize what is in or out of their control. These drama and events do little to affect the individual or the family unit. There is no return on any effort and the expense is wasted time.

Misery like usual, loves company. Time is being spent hopefully on something more productive.

[shaberon]

What I am observing is fewer and fewer Americans are interacting with these threads.

I missed that detail but I noticed how much non-americans care so much about what is happening in america at the expense of their own stress levels. [AND too much time spent on propaganda.]


I like to know about those things but I am an outsider in countries where I am not.

I don't consider the internal affairs of France or China are really my business.

Israel is totally different, for reasons that should not be hard to understand.




I think Trump is not a deep thinker. He does not demonstrate long-term thoughtfulness nor care in communication. But what to do with a system that perceives the lessor of two evils as somehow the better choice? [AND the only choice.]


To produce a viable third party.

That's what this year is about. Whether an actual, named party, or just a band of related opinions about things we are tired of.

He just said on NBC and Time "they will find a reason to impeach me if we don't win the mid-terms".

Actually there are about twenty, until we pencil in some updates. Being in office is like giving him rope to hang himself with. He just said it. He's talking to "we" which is diminishing.



I think fewer americans interact with these threads because they realize what is in or out of their control. These drama and events do little to affect the individual or the family unit. There is no return on any effort and the expense is wasted time.

Misery like usual, loves company. Time is being spent hopefully on something more productive.


That's why after all these years of discussing philosophy and history and so on, I found someone who spoke the plain truth. For there to be change, you have to win it in the Primaries. Because you don't, every election will be the "lesser of two evils" choice -- if you even get a choice. Where I am right now, you don't. Democracy is dead. That will never change unless you change it in the Primaries.

We are free to replace all his Congressmen and Senators and basically replace his Party.

Return the favor, since it has a plan to permanently subordinate us, it can just have that back.

My sense is the emerging British Empire shadow banking noise is a red herring to cover up 9/11 as if it wasn't enough already. That, and to extend the well-being of...the Party...which let's remember that it doesn't like you.

I have a sitting President recommend that I leave the country, so his Party can sit in absolute power indefinitely?

And, you know what, the thing that tempers my response from going absolutely ballistic will be found along the lines of civilization by women. That definitely has something to do with replacing the Party, or, if we get enough momentum, the whole dualized monoparty by a third.

I of course use strong language like an acid bath, but I am usually literal, and so by "ballistic", it should be understood literally as "projectile". Due to circumstances, I believe we have reached a junction point that could perhaps lead to something very unlike what we have seen -- or else it could spiral in to angry mobs which we have also seen. Something similar to the Civil Rights era, except this is an even more basic step like Human Rights.

Simple equation. How come nobody ever said that in this forum? If there is a major complaint, you can put someone in Congress very easily. Not necessarily in the major districts, but, there are a whole lot of smaller ones and you have to do it by numbers.

In my whole life I have paid zero attention to any of that, however it is one main issue that I find important and I am confident that there are enough who share a similar view that it is not a waste of time because you can't succeed if you don't try.

[shaberon]

So I'm sitting here with a simple fact I did not get from this forum, and in this thread I see a collection of angry voices who led visible protests over the Venezuela fiasco.

Who are these people and what are they doing? Obviously I, or anyone who supports the general position of this thread, share something, and collectively failed to prevent a damn thing so far.

What's going on?


"People over Pentagon" is an Act, H. R. 1194. That's tangible. It proposes a minor reduction in the Defense budget. Obviously this is not easy to get. Any negative number is sure to be scoffed at.


Dissenters (https://wearedissenters.org/) is a crowd of young people. There isn't really anything else on their home page. There might be a little more to it through the links, but it appears shapeless. One basic point. They don't know I have already stolen their souls, but they are going to find out.


Dismantle the MIC (https://www.dismantlethemic.org/) is a "resource hub" themed on Eisenhower's farewell address. It seems vested towards education if you want to learn a lot of stuff about defense contractors and so forth.


Friends Committee on National Legislation (https://www.fcnl.org/) is the Quaker lobbyists since 1943. That's perfectly legitimate. I didn't specifically ask if they had ever gotten anything passed. That's seventy years of Quaker presence in DC and my first impression is that Federal behavior does not resemble the Society of Friends. I'm going to guess that very little of their main idea which is the same as mine, has been particularly welcomed.


ANSWER (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.) is a NYC-based response to 9/11 which includes communists and is anti-Zionist enough to instead support Hezbollah. And so it is because of those tendencies or "connections" that most other groups shy away from them. Too strong. Too acerbic. These must be the ones that Trump was telling to leave the country and I am guilty by association.


I see a few pieces of proposed legislation, and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the Quakers got $75,000 for some windmills in 1972, but let's say they're far from the dominant party.

None of this is known to have fielded a Congressman. They are proposing legislation to an organization that basically does not want it. When you change the person, you change that, and you get a vote that can break a caucus.

There is no reason they can't put in some candidates somewhere. There is a reason that, if successful, none of those are likely to become powerful influential individuals any time soon, but, it's Congress, a vote is a vote, a dustbowl in Wyoming is equal to Manhattan.

Maybe some things happened that we just don't know about, but, this basic fact of how the government works seems completely ignored. As do most of the protest statements when those things happen. You are invoking someone who looks at you like a statistic rather than a living being. I've never tried that but I am going to try this.

[bojancan]

it's getting interesting... prosecutor from Hague... Jack Smith!


Jan, 08
Legal AF
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Jack Smith Gets FINAL REVENGE on Trump
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US government is the biggest gang controlled by gangsters that MAGA VOTED for repeatedly... it's MAFIA state!

Jan, o8
Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom
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Aaron Maté : When Law Dies, Freedom Follows - MURDER in Minneapolis
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[bojancan]

Always loved Glenn Greenwald... good talk... one more interview by Napolitano!

Jan, o8
Glenn Greenwald: Power Unchecked Destroys Freedom
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[shaberon]

Once again, you get another glib automatic response ICE is right. He wasn't there. Everybody knows they're gunmen. So now you have polarized deep embitterment to the level of the Governor of Minnesota.

Add the President of Germany for destroying world order (https://english.almanar.com.lb/article/9256/):



“Then there is the breakdown of values by our most important partner, the USA, which helped build this world order,” Steinmeier said in remarks at a symposium late on Wednesday.

“It is about preventing the world from turning into a den of robbers, where the most unscrupulous take whatever they want, where regions or entire countries are treated as the property of a few great powers,” he said.


However there may be an out-of-control slip from the Epstein saga (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/11/22/759279/israeli-emirati-power-play-horn-africa-jeffrey-epstein-covert-role):



The ideological base of the UAE-Israel axis is Zionist Islamophobia, combined with totalitarian hyper-neoliberalism.


One of his roles was to network this stuff around the Horn of Africa, which, obviously, is an ideological match to the American idea. Apparently now the concern is that it will simply go independent, that is, outside of America's control and not to the benefit of its capitalists.

What a thickly tangled web we weave.

The Iranian response -- and it is nice they will say it openly -- is that after decades of restraint, they may shift to pre-emptive strikes.

My first litmus test says that it will be easy to mobilize millions in the "negative" sense, that is, those who oppose this extremist behavior. That much is realistic. Big cultural shifts like "socialism" or "Hamas" probably are not; rebuking the Party is. I think we may be able to sink the drone hive mind that clings to fear and aggression. It won't go away completely, but you can push it to an impotent minority.

[bojancan]

I would love to know, who are those 47 senators, who are for wars... who is supporting Trump for his wars... today was voting only for Venezuela... I am hoping the same will happen regarding for Greenland and other Trump's appetites...

Jan, 08
MeidasTouch
5.79M subscribers
Trump LOSES IT as Senate VOTES AGAINST HIM on WAR
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[Ravenlocke]

Alpha100

This #US citizen was detained by #ICE on way to work at a traffic stop.
>She's in scrubs, helps people for a living & this is how she's treated.
>She was released once agents checked her ID. Check ID first!
>Why do they cover their faces?
>#ICE trained by #IDF, NOW MAKES SENSE!

https://x.com/100_alpha/status/2009361254989893674

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★★★★★ Pamphlets ★★★★★

🚨🇺🇸 BREAKING — "Absolute Immunity" ?

12+ Injured as ICE Agents Assault Protestors in Minneapolis Armed With a New Licence to Kill.

JD Vance just Said They Will Not Face Justice Even in the Case of Murder

https://x.com/PamphletsY/status/2009364216235610327

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Micah

JD Vance: “He is protected by absolute immunity.”

If ICE agents have “absolute immunity” that means they can never be prosecuted for anything done on the job.

That's about as Orwellian as it gets.

https://x.com/micah_erfan/status/2009385623195394137

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[shaberon]

I would love to know, who are those 47 senators, who are for wars... who is supporting Trump for his wars...


Republicans except (https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/08/senate-votes-to-restrict-trump-on-venezuela-00716127?nid=0000015a-dd3e-d536-a37b-dd7fd8af0000&nname=playbook-pm&nrid=e8409d60-5cd9-43c2-a709-92a507924734):


GOP Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Todd Young of Indiana and Josh Hawley of Missouri backed the measure to check Trump in a 52-47 vote. Paul, a co-sponsor of the resolution, and Murkowski have supported previous attempts to rein in Trump. Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania also supported the measure despite previously signaling he might oppose it.

The vote is a shocking sign of divisions among Republicans on Trump’s plans for the South American country, and an about-face to a November vote on limiting the president that failed. Democrats have promised more tough votes that force Republicans to take a public stance as Trump threatens to seize Greenland and floats military action in Colombia.


Three Republicans who previously opposed efforts to restrict Trump changed their votes in this latest effort, citing concerns about a possible U.S. military presence in the country. Collins, who chairs the Senate Appropriations Committee, Hawley and Young supported the measure after opposing an earlier resolution that came to the floor before Maduro’s ouster.


It's a re-firing of Senate Resolution 98, introduced on Dec. 03.

By "shaming" his "betrayers", I believe he has permanently reduced his allegiance to a minority among the Senators. It's not enough for an impeachment (2/3). A Resolution isn't anything binding, it only shows the majority view. Remember, he can never heal this, he can only break it down more. And then if you act in a way to blatantly defy the Senate, then there can be tangible repercussions, rather than the revelation you just fell out of power.


There is also HCR68 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/68/all-actions?s=5&r=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22hcr68%22%7D) which likewise needs about six votes to swing to make a similar Congressional "rebuke".

There is HR9761 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/6971/all-actions?s=2&r=3) about limiting Executive Orders, while there are a few proposals rolling that would of course tend to increase the President's powers.

But yeah, flipping the Senate over Christmas by your own free will is not particularly foresighted.

[Ravenlocke]

Breaking911

Jesse Ventura responds to Minneapolis ICE shooting, says he may run for Governor again:

"We're a 3rd world country now!"

He calls Trump a "rich white boy" & asks if Sec. Noem has "ever met a person of color."

https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2009390030783910157

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The Resonance

Jan 6
Max Blumenthal: “Where is the Smedley Butler of today to rise from the ranks of the U.S. military and realize that they are just the muscle for a banker's cartel and that they are actually not defending anything or anyone except the global militant ZI0NIST 1%?”


https://x.com/Partisan_12/status/2008794971353346447

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