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Spellbound
10th December 2016, 12:40
New (rare) video about human mutilations here. This is a subject I find fascinating.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuSv7ogRMH0

Dave - Toronto

Truthster013
10th December 2016, 15:22
Thanks for sharing. The title and topic had me intrigued but I find John Ventre hard to trust. He seems to jump to conclusions far too quickly like saying he believes Jack the Ripper was the first alien abduction and mutilation case and that black helicopters are alien craft disguised to look like helicopters. He also makes a comment about ancient Egypt depictions of aircraft and says something like "this can only mean..." (as if to say there arent dozens of plausible theories). Mutilations are an interesting topic but i didn't find anything here that seemed compelling. Thanks again for sharing.

Justplain
10th December 2016, 16:09
This is a very serious subject. Human abduction/mutilation is a topic that Richard D. Hall, of Richplanet.net, has done some research on:

The phenomenon of animal mutilation is difficult to explain in conventional terms, and has been linked for decades with UFO's, because strange lights are sometimes witnessed in proximity to sites where animal carcases are found. But have human beings suffered similar attacks? This film attempts to answer this very controversial question. Rumours about human mutilation have circulated the UFO community for years with some people claiming to have had contact with a military group which is used to acquire the corpses of victims of human mutilation. In the film we reveal the testimony of a black ops soldier, who was employed by a secret NATO "find and secure" military team. Their job is to search for and then protect sites where human mutilation has taken place.


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Spellbound
10th December 2016, 16:37
Hi Justplain. Yes, that Richard Hall video is VERY good, imo. There's also a few Butch Witkowski presentations that are quite good (though his credibility has been called into question in recent years, the subject remains with merit). It's a subject that has long fascinated me. ET's are abducting and mutilating or eating humans. Basically they use us as a source of food (or energy). The gov't tries to swipe this under the rug because they know this reality would FREAK people out in a big way. This is the dark side of the ET phenomenon that rarely gets discussed. Even Lind Moulton Howe, who revels in this idea as it pertains to cattle, poo poos the idea of it happening to humans (though personally I think she was warned by higher powers to stay away from the subject).

I wish more people would come out with stories / presentation / videos on human mutilations at the hands of ET's. IMO it MUST be addressed.

Dave - Toronto

mojo
10th December 2016, 17:05
Looking from another pov we would find the governments may have allowed this to take place with our citizens. For example there are statements that a treaty was made with some ETS for technology and for allowing ETs to take some people. Another consideration might be programmed lifeforms and black op projects such as Dulce base for experiments on them.

Not to say there aren't abductions by true ETs, ie Betty-Barney Hill, the Allagash four, Travis Walton etc... and even in the abduction case we see a scale from the extreme of mutilation to people saying the abduction experience was positive.

PS: wanted to mention that even an insect type scorpion ET that sucks blood might be the creation of some nefarious gov expirement using human animal chimera

Spellbound
10th December 2016, 17:12
Hi Mojo. Yes, there is a wide array of experiences with abductions (by many different ET's). However, I'm referring to the very bad cases that involve mutilations. I remember watching a presentation that Kerry did with Laurie McDonald (hypnotherapist who specializes in ET abductions) and she refers to the reptilians who eat humans. That is the part of the story that many people don't want to address...but I find fascinating.

Dave - Toronto

Justplain
10th December 2016, 20:03
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

AutumnW
10th December 2016, 21:22
Could be, but there is no proof reptilians are eating anybody. I sure would like to know who is disappearing people in national parks though. David Paulides radio interviews scare me witless!

AutumnW
10th December 2016, 21:25
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

Well now...that was scary! But it kind of looked like a bunch of people chasing somebody. And they pulled him apart awfully easily, like he was made of cream cheese. Seems like it could be a hoax. Still...scary!

Bill Ryan
10th December 2016, 21:32
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

It's from one of the trailers for the video game S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl

Spellbound
10th December 2016, 22:18
Could be, but there is no proof reptilians are eating anybody.

Oh, I dunno about that. There's been a few sources who claim reptilians eat humans (part and parcel with the rule....don't mention the reptilians).

Dave - Toronto

Justplain
10th December 2016, 22:37
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

It's from one of the trailers for the video game S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl


Hi Bill,

Can you provide a link to the trailer? I looked in youtube and couldnt find any trailers like this in Stalker, which is a computer game.

The furthest back of a youtube vid i can find of this is 2010. None of the posters provide any background, so that is suspicious, but it may be that they just ripped it off from somewhere else.

If this is bogus, then lets out it. But it would be good to verify one way or another.

Cheers,
Al

Bill Ryan
10th December 2016, 23:54
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

It's from one of the trailers for the video game S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl



Hi Bill,

Can you provide a link to the trailer? I looked in youtube and couldnt find any trailers like this in Stalker, which is a computer game.

The furthest back of a youtube vid i can find of this is 2010. None of the posters provide any background, so that is suspicious, but it may be that they just ripped it off from somewhere else.

If this is bogus, then lets out it. But it would be good to verify one way or another.

Cheers,
Al

Yes, I looked for a little while but couldn't find it on any of the trailers for the game -- and there are quite a few different trailers out there.

Several YouTube comments said it was an unreleased advertisement, which came in the 'bonus material' along with the game (or something like that). Literally dozens of YouTube commenters, on several different videos, stated flatly, and with certainty, that it was from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. On one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR372Xwohx0) (uploaded June 2008) the uploader STATES in the text it's not real, and is from the game.
FOR all of you people that keep saying that this is not real, i know., its a game, i just posted it for fun

I got to the point myself where it seemed so obvious where it was from I stopped spending any more time to dig deeper.

AutumnW
11th December 2016, 01:42
Could be, but there is no proof reptilians are eating anybody.

Oh, I dunno about that. There's been a few sources who claim reptilians eat humans (part and parcel with the rule....don't mention the reptilians).

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound,

Who are the sources? And granted, iron clad proof would be hard to come by, but do you think that there is very strong circumstantial evidence? My worst fear isn't of being killed and eaten it's of being abducted and ending up on display in a zoo like atmosphere somewhere off planet. Seriously, this just scares me witless.

Spellbound
11th December 2016, 02:27
Could be, but there is no proof reptilians are eating anybody.

Oh, I dunno about that. There's been a few sources who claim reptilians eat humans (part and parcel with the rule....don't mention the reptilians).

Dave - Toronto

Spellbound,

Who are the sources? And granted, iron clad proof would be hard to come by, but do you think that there is very strong circumstantial evidence? My worst fear isn't of being killed and eaten it's of being abducted and ending up on display in a zoo like atmosphere somewhere off planet. Seriously, this just scares me witless.

Ok, iron clad proof...probably doesn't exist unless there is black ops film of it happening (which actually would not surprise me). However, there have been many sources over the years who claim reptilians eat humans. I think Alex Collier has had this claim in his presentations (especially about children). I know the above video from Richard Hall tells the story of downed UFO's with body parts being found inside. As I said above, Kerry's interview with Laurie MacDonald makes this claim by specifically naming the reptilians (see here at the 55:10 mark)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khUrJbp1Seo&t=1s

My point being that there is a very dark side to the ET phenomenon that not many people will address. It's one thing to believe in UFO's and aliens....it's quite another to believe we could actually be a food source. As I've stated in other threads lately, there are many similarities between cattle mutilations and human mutilations - lips and jaw bone skinned back, vital organs missing, anal cavity cored out, and completely devoid of all blood.....for which I believe the human/cattle is alive during the process thus releasing an endorphin into the bloodstream which the ET (be it a reptilian or some other race) seem to thrive on. Is there 100% proof of this?? Not that I'm aware of. However, I do believe this is very real.

Dave - Toronto

Justplain
11th December 2016, 03:28
I apologize for the Russian zombie fake vid, i had read that it was real, but I'll take Bill's word for it.

Another Russian incident that is well documented and researched which has human mutilations is the 1959 Dyatlov incident. Here's an excerpt from wikipedia:

The Dyatlov Pass incident (Russian: Гибель тургруппы Дятлова) is the mysterious deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural Mountains on February 2, 1959. The experienced trekking group, who were all from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, had established a camp on the slopes of Kholat Syakhl when disaster struck. During the night something made them tear their way out of their tents from the inside and flee the campsite inadequately dressed in heavy snowfall and sub-zero temperatures.

Soviet investigators determined that six victims died from hypothermia while others showed signs of physical trauma. One victim had a fractured skull while another had brain damage but without any sign of distress to their skull. Additionally, a female team member had her tongue missing. The investigation concluded that an "unknown compelling force" had caused the deaths.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

One extra note, one of the campers had a camera, and the last photo on the reel was a night shot that showed bright lights in the sky. This is plain evidence of ufo presence. None of the sources i've read indicate that this was a psy op.

Spellbound
11th December 2016, 03:52
Nice to bring up the Dyatlov Pass incident, Justplain. I've watched quite a few docs on that (including a few movies...some good...some bad). Not quite sure what to make of it, to be quite honest. Some folks attribute it to sasquatch (or as they call it the almasty). There was a documentary released 2 years ago that show things from that perspective, including a picture taken with said camera showing a bigfoot-like creature in the forest, which I don't believe considering it took place over 50 years ago and that picture just surfaced now?? There were bright lights reported in the sky that night from people who were a few miles away...and the bodies that were found later were very compelling (that missing tongue intrigued me...as did some of the people found with different clothing and some with no footwear or jackets....and the tent was cut from the inside out, as I recall). I'd lean towards an ET attack, but we'll never know for sure. Very interesting case.

Dave - Toronto

helencrump
11th December 2016, 06:21
While I don't blame Justplain for posting that vid, I am soooooo glad to hear its fake because I watched it earlier today and could not unsee it all day. Ive seen a lot of bad stuff on youtube and that was the worst thing ever. Not saying that stuff doesn't happen but a relief to think its a video game. Right after I watched, i repeated to myself "its just a video game, its just a video game". lol

Tangri
11th December 2016, 09:54
I apologize for the Russian zombie fake vid, i had read that it was real, but I'll take Bill's word for it.

Another Russian incident that is well documented and researched which has human mutilations is the 1959 Dyatlov incident. Here's an excerpt from wikipedia:

The Dyatlov Pass incident (Russian: Гибель тургруппы Дятлова) is the mysterious deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural Mountains on February 2, 1959. The experienced trekking group, who were all from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, had established a camp on the slopes of Kholat Syakhl when disaster struck. During the night something made them tear their way out of their tents from the inside and flee the campsite inadequately dressed in heavy snowfall and sub-zero temperatures.

Soviet investigators determined that six victims died from hypothermia while others showed signs of physical trauma. One victim had a fractured skull while another had brain damage but without any sign of distress to their skull. Additionally, a female team member had her tongue missing. The investigation concluded that an "unknown compelling force" had caused the deaths.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

One extra note, one of the campers had a camera, and the last photo on the reel was a night shot that showed bright lights in the sky. This is plain evidence of ufo presence. None of the sources i've read indicate that this was a psy op.

You can watch this movie, you can find it free stream sites for it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1905040/

TargeT
11th December 2016, 15:37
Here's a bizarre video taken in infrared from a Russian military helicopter. It shows some humanoids, who are impervious to bullets, attacking/killing/dismembering a Russian soldier. The youtube publisher believes these attackers were zombies but i tend to think they were reptilian or some other form of non human species, possibly ET. This is unpleasant to watch:

W_JJZq_YnoQ

thats fake ;)


edit: woops, should have kept reading :)

CurEus
11th December 2016, 23:00
I find this topic VERY disturbing. If the truth of the matter is that we cannot defend ourselves from these aggressors or that our governments have colluded with them we really are in a sorry state of affairs...

TargeT
11th December 2016, 23:06
I find this topic VERY disturbing. If the truth of the matter is that we cannot defend ourselves from these aggressors or that our governments have colluded with them we really are in a sorry state of affairs...

in my 37 year on this planet, I have yet to need to defend from either even once ;)

so it shouldn't be TOO disturbing ;)

Justplain
12th December 2016, 00:23
Unfortunately, I am one of those who has suffered (i believe) from some sort of abduction process. I have physical evidence of triangular scars on my legs and needle holes on my genitals. I had a sore left knee, then one night, awoke in my sleep from a severe pain there and saw, in an 'astral' type form (ie. sort of dreamlike) a grey (alien?) leaning over my left leg. It squealed when it saw me awake, leaned forward and i went blank. I awoke later normally with a sore left knee.

No one has to convince me that something is abducting some of us. The mutilation i suffer from are these scars, but atleast i'm still alive.

This is a difficult topic. I cant stop this nor defend myself. I get the impression my harvesters are happy enough with the current state of affairs to let me live a relatively normal life. I hope that someday we can prevent this kind of crap. We know from Lloyd Pye's starchild that this kind of alien interference in human lives has been going on for ages.

I think it will only be when we can master transdimensional defenses that this will become combatable. Certainly prayers and other psychic techiques i have heard of dont work. The harvesting occurs when our defenses are down, when we are in deep sleep. Maybe someday we will have the tech to beat this, but certainly now we dont in the public domain.

Innocent Warrior
12th December 2016, 00:26
There are most certainly malevolent beings from other dimensions who can and do physically affect us, a fact I know from personal experience. Nothing to fear, we are powerful beings ourselves, but they are real. I don't know what shadow beings are exactly (the formless black, dense smoke/cloud looking ones) but they appear to inhabit this physical realm. I have seen them numerous times and had a couple of run-ins with them. I have never seen any sort of reptilian ET but it isn't that much of a stretch for me to consider the reality of their presence here and Richard Hall's documentary is highly compelling too. The description of the appearance in that documentary is interesting (looks like a demon type creature), same as what Max Spiers described, which is not the same as what is usually reported.

Update: I just remembered, it was the Draconians that Max described as demonic looking (baphomet), same looking creature as reported in Richard's documentary. I don't know if they are considered reptilian or not.

SpookyMulder
12th December 2016, 07:42
I do believe that both "Linda Moulton Howe" and "David Paulides" are the closest thing to getting some real info and facts on the subject of "Alien Abduction/Animals Mutilations" with some fascinating exposés and chilling tales. Also listening to "David Paulides" mentioning how certain people could have been taken away/abducted, how they have vanished without leaving any trace, when no real possible scenario could be ascertained is quite something really.

Too many possible routes and not one real lead!