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ponda
14th December 2016, 06:16
Interesting documentary that just aired on RT that goes into detail about Glyphosate use in food production.


Published on Jan 25, 2016

Glyphosate is the world’s most widely used weed killer. Some claim it is completely harmless, others say it is a serious health hazard for man and animals. A topical investigation into a controversial substance.


Click here for a shorter version of the film in German language: https://youtu.be/UCh_Qe79i-w


Glyphosate is the world’s most widely used weed killer in farms and gardens. German soil was treated with six million kilograms in 2012 alone. Glyphosate is cheap and readily available at all wholesale garden stores. Some claim it is completely harmless, while others say it is a serious health hazard for man and animals. Large-scale studies of the herbicide have only been carried out by the industry itself. Such studies would be far too expensive for individual authorities. But glyphosate so far only has a limited licence in Europe, and this year, the Federal Institute for Risk Assessment in Germany is responsible for extending it. Now, the WHO has suddenly announced it is calling for an all-out ban on glyphosate, right in the middle of the decision-making procedure. A WHO cancer research team considers the herbicide produced by Monsanto, Syngenta and BASF to be absolutely toxic and probably carcinogenic. More and more people and animals that are exposed to the substance become ill – and there are a large number of unexplained miscarriages and deformities in humans in South America, especially in areas where glyphosate is used on large monocultures. Critical scientists have been warning of the long-term damage for years. But their studies have not been recognised by the authorities. We ask how a substance without a tested licence in Germany has been extended for test operation since 1974, even though there has been evidence of its toxicity for the past 10 years. The film sets out in search of sick animals and humans and asks how the WHO has reached these new conclusions and what action the Federal Institute for Risk Assessment is taking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyI10Z8aH0

Bubu
14th December 2016, 11:28
once my boys were digging worms for fishing bait, in a banana plantation they never find one until a man passing by told them to dig somewhere because the soil inside the banana plantation is dead whit no living organism whatsoever. that explains why a week into eating the said export quality bananas my immune system got so weak that I got a flu. I normally dont eat fruits or veggies from plantation I always choose the native lowly varieties that are not sought after not pricey so there is no cause to spend bucks (fertilizer and pesticides/) to increase production. On that particular instance there was a series of low pressures and typhoons that cause oversupply of alleged good bananas and no native cheap (non gmo) ones. banana is a daily staple for me so I was force to buy. big mistake.
Lets include all kinds of chemicals use in agriculture not only glypo.

ponda
14th December 2016, 11:32
once my boys were digging worms for fishing bait, in a banana plantation they never find one until a man passing by told them to dig somewhere because the soil inside the banana plantation is dead whit no living organism whatsoever. that explains why a week into eating the said export quality bananas my immune system got so weak that I got a flu. I normally dont eat fruits or veggies from plantation I always choose the native lowly varieties that are not sought after not pricey so there is no cause to spend bucks (fertilizer and pesticides/) to increase production. On that particular instance there was a series of low pressures and typhoons that cause oversupply of alleged good bananas and no native cheap (non gmo) ones. banana is a daily staple for me so I was force to buy. big mistake.
Lets include all kinds of chemicals use in agriculture not only glypo.


Yeah it's a good idea to go organic as much as possible if you can imho


cheers

Justplain
15th December 2016, 00:14
It appears that the Dutch have banned glyophosate, the herbicide in Monsanto's roundup poison, and other countries may follow suit including France, Brazil and the EU:

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/roundup-banned-netherlands-france-brazil-likely-soon-follow/

The dominoes are starting to fall.
The evidence damning glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, the world’s number one herbicide for weed control, has become too enormous to ignore.

While it won’t kill you immediately as demonstrated by foolish Monsanto reps who have been known to drink Roundup in product demonstrations to convince unwitting farmers to use it, the long term effects to health are nothing short of devastating.
Infertility
Kidney disease
Birth defects
Severe gastrointestinal ailments
Parkinson’s Disease
Cancer
Nervous system damage
And the list goes on.
Finally, governments around the world are starting to take action, with the Dutch Parliament in recent days voting to ban all glyphosate-based herbicides including Roundup, from the end of 2015 and beyond.

Yetti
15th December 2016, 00:48
Ok Ponda, so let me put it this way, : is there any piece of land actually gliphosate free? ( in US?) , Is this chemical poisson able to travel to the clouds and come down as rain?, are the rivers wash away gliphosate and carry it out to the oceans ending on our fish? How we can cure our soil from this kind of poissoning? I would like a more explicit explanation because I have a small farm and trying to do organic produce and cheese, and something like this is very alarming... to say the least.

ponda
15th December 2016, 10:49
Ok Ponda, so let me put it this way, : is there any piece of land actually gliphosate free? ( in US?) , Is this chemical poisson able to travel to the clouds and come down as rain?, are the rivers wash away gliphosate and carry it out to the oceans ending on our fish? How we can cure our soil from this kind of poissoning? I would like a more explicit explanation because I have a small farm and trying to do organic produce and cheese, and something like this is very alarming... to say the least.


Hi,

I done a quick search and the news appears to be good. Glyphosate/roundup should break down fairly quickly depending on soil type and rainfall amounts. Please note that the info in the link is an opinion from an anonymous poster so treat with due care.

cheers


http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Message.aspx?b=72&m=6292&ps=50&dm=1&pd=2&am=6336

Glyphosate, the active constituent of Roundup, has been found to bond strongly with clay particles and so it is quickly inactivated once it washes into clay rich soils.

It has been found to break down in the soil over a period of several weeks to several months, depending on moisture levels, temperature and microbial activity. It has also been found to have little if any soil activity in a wide range of soil types.

It is quite ineffectual on woody plants unless the treated plant is already stressed or very young and 80% or more of the foliage is hit. More often than not glophosate treated native shrubs re-sprout after a short period of time. For them it is not all that much different from being defoliated by fire.


From this link: http://permaculture.com.au/glyphosate-toxicity-impacts-on-the-environment-and-non-target-species/

Glyphosate in soil takes 140 days to break down to half it’s toxicity and will continue to be taken up by plants from the soil for 2 years and longer.


You might find these peoples experience relevant:

Getting Roundup Out of Our Farm’s Soil

https://farmingsweetbay.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/getting-roundup-out-of-our-farms-soil/


Good luck with the farm :)

Lifebringer
15th December 2016, 14:05
I'm organic tiller. Wouldn't have it any other way.

Yetti
15th January 2017, 05:52
Hello Lifebringer. Because the soil around here is pure clay ( i should put a brick factory instead of farming) I use homemade compost on rise beds to plant my veggies and peppers, on a 50/50 ratio plus adding some vermiculite to keep the air in. Some of the field now is pretty good after 5 years of adding compost, tilling, and cover crops. But definitely I have no clue if the rain bring me any contaminant like gliphosate os some poisson from chemtrails...... That's why I produce my own compost. if you know anyone who have a simple way to detect such a chemical in the soil let me know!.