Insight into The Pine Cone (third eye): The Holy of Holies, The Ark of the Covenant, and The Pineal Gland.

[Hunkin]

Hello Project Avalon community! I would love to hear what everyone in the communities thinks about the Pineal gland from a spiritual, Christian, esoteric, and occulted understanding. I was a part of this Podcast last night, http://mythicist.me/opening-third-eye-pineal-gland-meditation-tutorials-techniques/ at the Mythicist.Me page and it had so much beautiful insight into the understanding of the Pineal Gland as referenced in many versus of the bible.

For instance, what is everyone’s take on the fact that Jacob wrestled with God in a place called Peniel(Pineal) ultimately seeing God, "Face to Face." Also in Matthew 6:22-23 It was referenced that, ""The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

I know Michelangelo’s Creation of Adam in the Sistine Chapel has an anatomically accurate image of the human brain. It seems as if there is something being held back from us, that it not allowing us to develop a deeper and richer understanding of this holy place that is referenced as the, "Mercy seat of God," and the Ark of the Covenant.

I would love to hear everyone's beautiful insight into this and would also love to know what you all have discovered in the bible that references the Pineal Gland and the third eye.

Thank you!

[Cidersomerset]

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I just saw this article on the headline page......


The Importance of Your Pineal Gland For Over-All Health and Well-Being

By David on 14 December 2016 GMT Medical/Health, What is Reality?


https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/bcd6fd50cecb5eb0f407b8c53bd1d221.jpg

‘Within the center of everyone’s brain is a small pine cone-shaped endocrine gland, known
as the pineal gland. The pineal gland is located very close to the pituitary gland. This tiny,
yet very important gland is responsible for many important functions in our bodies.

The pineal gland produces various hormones and chemicals that keep us healthy and
functioning well. One such hormone that the pineal gland produces is called melatonin,
which controls our body’s sleep and wake patterns. Without the proper amounts of
melatonin in our system, we experience sleep disruption, and possibly an accelerated
aging process. Other hormones and chemicals created through the pineal gland, when
it is functioning properly, cause states of happiness, euphoria, peacefulness, healthy
mental function, balanced emotions, moods, and nervous system. Yet that is not all
this little pine cone-resembling part of our human anatomy does.’

Read more: The Importance of Your Pineal Gland For Over-All Health and Well-Being

http://thecostaricanews.com/importance-pineal-gland-health-well/


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Another article on the page that may be of interest..?

Declassified Document Suggests Many of Us May Have Superhuman Powers

By David on 4 December 2016 GMT

http://www.wakingtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/There-is-No-Spoon.jpeg

Christina Sarich, The Mind Unleashed
Waking Times

A recently declassified document that was unearthed through the Freedom of
Information Act, suggests that the Chinese government has conducted massive-
scale studies on superhuman powers like telepathy, psychokinesis, approbation,
aerokinesis, clairsentience, clairaudience, and more. The US Central Intelligence
Agency was appraised of these studies, and could have conducted similar
investigations, all while keeping the results hidden from the general public.

read more...
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/12/02/declassified-document-suggests-thousands-may-superhuman-powers/

[DeDukshyn]

 

This verse: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

I interpret as a non-pineal related statement. To me, this means refers to perception and ego. The ego has a point of view for everything, and it is always contradictory. An example is "Love". Real love has no conditions - none at all; therefore if one applies a condition to love it is really no longer love at all. The ego will make you believe that these conditions are acceptable, because they are "practical" -- an example - God might want you to love all people and all things, and we say "yes of course!", but then we hold back our love from people we don't like, disagree with, ex-lovers, enemies, etc.

It seems practical to listen to the ego's "insane" reasonings, that create and adhere to a set of floating conditions for every experience, but in turn deny you from having a single "whole" (Holy) point of view. When one is able to cast the ego from being the main controlling aspect of the mind, this single or "whole" point of view can be restored, without the thousands of contradictory "reasonings" that the ego is always trying to present you with to keep you from being your true self and from functioning from a single perspective -- the true self.

So when "thine eye be single" - it is a representation of overcoming the ego's shattered logic, to reach a state of being where a person is one with their true self, and able to receive the Love of God.


That's my interpretation anyway.


Don't forget this massive sculpture at the Vatican ... :)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/90/82/ac/9082ac80f2e1ff6914b58fecdf1727cb.jpg

[Hunkin]

DeDukshyn that was so beautiful and insightful! This is what I love about dialectics, but most importantly life and all of it's endless beauty, is the fact that man will always have endless subjective interpretations of what the truth is, but the truth is objective and just is; therefore, when we try to associate concepts, theories, and even words, it has already removed the beauty of it. I so grateful for your reminder of how important it is to, "just be," "I am, that I am."

[Cidersomerset]

I just finished listening to the discussion in the background and it
was interesting , most of it ion talks about on payday but interpreted
slightly different we are all eternal gods that come from source and
return after our visit though some do not. Its a fun subject but do
not get bogged down with good & evil we create everything in this
reality thru the frequency of the word and so on and on....

I do like how more people are coming into their power spiritually
and not religiously as religion has been the greatest control
mechanism ever invented imo. But saying that you are god
so if you want to be in a religion or not is up to you. The only
problem is when we are born and arrive in our bodies most
soon loose touch with their innocence and are programmed
into whatever culture their parents are in so their experience
is coloured from a early stage , this does not apply to all but
a large proportion of the world population. :Angel: Are real...;)

[greybeard]

David Wilcock--give him is due--researched deeply into The Pine Cone (third eye) the information was in one of his books.

Chris

[shaberon]

I will hold with Dedukshyn on this one. I would say never attempt to open/stimulate a gland/chakra, but the more one releases and dissolves the lower ego, the more one's entire system changes on a permanent basis.

As a pine cone, that was its symbol amongst the Dionysians. The third eye was literally that: an eyeball.

It also produces brain sand, which apparently is a big unknown to doctors.

[DeDukshyn]

DeDukshyn that was so beautiful and insightful! This is what I love about dialectics, but most importantly life and all of it's endless beauty, is the fact that man will always have endless subjective interpretations of what the truth is, but the truth is objective and just is; therefore, when we try to associate concepts, theories, and even words, it has already removed the beauty of it. I so grateful for your reminder of how important it is to, "just be," "I am, that I am."

Heh, thanks.

Yes, thinking is overrated. :) This all ties back into quieting the mind and learning to be a present moment observer. Thinking has it's place, as does the ego, but true living, in a sense, is in the "zone" - the present moment. We forget we are focusing mechanisms and can move from one state to the other as is beneficial. We get stuck zoomed in at the ego end and often forget that we can always breathe, relax, just be, exist as we really are, without labels, without description ...

BTW: "Dialectic" -- why is that word not already in my vocabulary? Thanks :)

Anyway ... back to topic ...

[Beren]

There is something deeply ethereal when talking about glands of a body. Especially pinneal. When you break down what is the gland excrement - hormone - you get the phenomenal revelations. Deeply down it`s a chemical element. The formulaic order of atoms within and molecules makes the excrement different from the other ones. Hormones are very potent because their chemical formula is super strong.

Now, what is beneath the formula?

Deeper down, it`s a electrical signal that arranges the molecules and atoms into desired form of an energetically charged information - hormone.
There lies the truth, the energy that gave the signal that certain hormone need to be made, comes from the soul, which resides in a different frequency.
High one. But since soul wants an experience through the body (which is in material realm) it needs to translate the command into the language that body can follow, thus it sends the ethereal signal which transforms into electric pulse which stimulates glands to produce a thing physical-carrier of the command and information into material plane (body).

That`s why certain glands are more potent to different possibilities of an experience. Pinneal is for higher worlds.

[ghostrider]

all I know is when human beings learn to speak , think and act , from their still small inner voice , the world will change ...

[DeDukshyn]

There is something deeply ethereal when talking about glands of a body. Especially pinneal. When you break down what is the gland excrement - hormone - you get the phenomenal revelations. Deeply down it`s a chemical element. The formulaic order of atoms within and molecules makes the excrement different from the other ones. Hormones are very potent because their chemical formula is super strong.

Now, what is beneath the formula?

Deeper down, it`s a electrical signal that arranges the molecules and atoms into desired form of an energetically charged information - hormone.
There lies the truth, the energy that gave the signal that certain hormone need to be made, comes from the soul, which resides in a different frequency.
High one. But since soul wants an experience through the body (which is in material realm) it needs to translate the command into the language that body can follow, thus it sends the ethereal signal which transforms into electric pulse which stimulates glands to produce a thing physical-carrier of the command and information into material plane (body).

That`s why certain glands are more potent to different possibilities of an experience. Pinneal is for higher worlds.

Nice. But while you describe it - "formulaic order" - you failed to describe (more dot connecting) that this in part refers to the "crystal" element of the endocrine (glandular) system(s). Crystals have the ability to receive and even sometimes hold high frequency energy - ethereal energy even. We have long understood that radio receivers use crystals to receive the actual radio signal - electronics then amplify that signal. The glands in our endocrine system (pineal included) also contain crystalline structures of certain acids and salts ... do the high level math - it's not a complex equation. It's more strange that mainstream medicine / science hasn't already made this connection within our biology ... :)

[CD7]

 

This verse: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

I interpret as a non-pineal related statement. To me, this means refers to perception and ego. The ego has a point of view for everything, and it is always contradictory. An example is "Love". Real love has no conditions - none at all; therefore if one applies a condition to love it is really no longer love at all. The ego will make you believe that these conditions are acceptable, because they are "practical" -- an example - God might want you to love all people and all things, and we say "yes of course!", but then we hold back our love from people we don't like, disagree with, ex-lovers, enemies, etc.




It seems practical to listen to the ego's "insane" reasonings, that create and adhere to a set of floating conditions for every experience, but in turn deny you from having a single "whole" (Holy) point of view. When one is able to cast the ego from being the main controlling aspect of the mind, this single or "whole" point of view can be restored, without the thousands of contradictory "reasonings" that the ego is always trying to present you with to keep you from being your true self and from functioning from a single perspective -- the true self.

So when "thine eye be single" - it is a representation of overcoming the ego's shattered logic, to reach a state of being where a person is one with their true self, and able to receive the Love of God.


That's my interpretation anyway.


Don't forget this massive sculpture at the Vatican ... :)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/90/82/ac/9082ac80f2e1ff6914b58fecdf1727cb.jpg

Great explanation of having a holistic view DD.. What do the peacocks represent.. does anyone know?

[DeDukshyn]

... What do the peacocks represent.. does anyone know?

Here's the more "official" explanation for these symbols.






The pine cone carries a heavy symbolism in Christianity supposedly being the fruit of the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden (hence the Assassin’s Creed link). It represents eternal life and enlightenment and the literal biblical translation is “the face of God”. The pineal gland in the brain (named for its similar shape) is the geometric centre of the brain and is considered the third eye or the seat of the soul. The Pope’s staff features a pine cone symbolising the illumination of the church. The symbolism of the pine cone is similar in many religions and was obviously absorbed by the Christians like many other aspects of the Greco-Roman and Egyptian religions. The fact that it stood in the Temple of Isis (a goddess revered by the early Christians as the Virgin Mary and often used as a disguise in the days of persecution) explains the reason behind the reverence of this sculpture.

The peacocks at the base of the Pine Cone are the Christian symbol of eternal life stemming from the legend that their flesh did not decay (St Augustine believed that peacock flesh had anti-septic qualities). This, added to the symbolism of the shedding of the feathers and replacing them with brighter ones, alludes to the resurrection of Christ. The eyes on the tail feathers were also seen as the all-seeing eyes of God. This of course all comes from earlier Greco-Roman religions and was adopted when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire. Both the pine cone and the peacock were synonymous with the Roman god Sol Invictus (the unconquerable sun) who was used as a substitute for the Christian God by Constantine on his coins who sought to keep both the Christians and pagans happy by using a symbol that was appropriate to both sections of society. The Christian day of rest was even placed on the day of Sol Invictus, Sun-day. The bronze peacocks, however, were not part of the original sculpture but are thought to be originally taken from Hadrian’s mausoleum (now Rome’s fortress, the Castel St. Angelo).

Thus as a whole the Pine Cone is meant to be a symbolic fountain of life. Even in its present form the symbolism still points to the Pine Cone as an emblem of renewal in the Eternal City.

Excerpt from here:
https://thedailybeagle.net/2013/09/08/the-pigna-and-the-apollo-belvedere-two-treasures-of-the-vatican/

[Foxie Loxie]

Amazing posts by everyone! In my mind's eye I keep going back to the figures of the "gods" holding a "pine cone" in one hand & what looks like a "purse" in the other.
I wonder what it all really means? :confused: I had never seen the sculpture from the Vatican! Thanks!

[DeDukshyn]

Amazing posts by everyone! In my mind's eye I keep going back to the figures of the "gods" holding a "pine cone" in one hand & what looks like a "purse" in the other.
I wonder what it all really means? :confused: I had never seen the sculpture from the Vatican! Thanks!

I do recall a discussion and a new theory presented about the pinecone and a purse -- not sure if I agreed with it, but the theory had to do with the pinecone representing a food source from the ocean or something ... anyway the theory I saw was a non-pineal related theory about what the pinecone and the purse symbols might mean. Try searching with the advanced search (good luck! ;)) there are some great threads on Pineal symbolism here from the past.

[Inversion]

When they removed the lid from the sarcophagus in the Kings chamber of the great pyramid they found a white powder that's secretions from pineal glands of Thoth's initiates. Samples of it were taken to a British museum. That information is from ‘Nothing In This Book Is True, But It’s Exactly How Things Are’ by Bob Frissell. The pineal gland contains crystals and a field goes up around it during the sleeping state shutting out space/time or time/space (an explanation of the two is in session 41 of the Ra Material). The pineal gland is wired directly into the optic nerve which allows us to see images. It can be said that the pineal gland is a gateway to what Ra refers to as intelligent infinity.

[Bubu]

whoever is promoting the issue that the pinneal gland is our gateway to higher realm is doing a great job in diverting our attention from the real one which is "thought ". creation starts with thought. the created propaganda which is perceive by the brain ( not the pinneal) gives birth to "ego" which gives birth to negative thought patterns that in turn prevents us from being our true selves. you see the media is doing a really great job in calcifying our thought. Thus even if I dont expose myself to fluoride and other chems I remain an idiot because I expose myself to the created matrix.

Have you taken time out in nature lately? away from the madness of the city. how does it feel? Did it put things in a better perspective?
guard your perception guard your thought.

[happyuk]

Really interesting thread. The passage from Matthew 6:22 is absolutely everything to do with awaking the spiritual eye ("Kutastha" in yoga) that comes by deep meditation and concentration on the centre between the eyebrows ("Christ Consciousness").

I think the pine cone / peacocks sculpture outside the Vatican is also very symbolic of this. If I may hazard a wild guess, there is a specific technique (Joyti Mudra) that one practices after a period of meditation that enables one to clearly see the spiritual eye with eyes closed - the "eye" being a golden colored halo of light with a five-pointed star inside. "Joyti" translates as light, "Mudra" translates as seal.

Joyti Mudra involves closing the ear traguses with the thumbs, the lips with the ends of both sets of smallest fingers, the nostrils with each middle finger and the corners of each eye with each index finger. It is whilst applying the slight pressure to the eyeballs that one sees the coloured spot at the bottom corner of each eye. Are these the "eyes" of the peacock feather that is being talked about. Either way with persistent sincere practice it is possible to attain a glimpses of the single spiritual eye - the pine cone? - the quality of which seems to be dependent on the depth and quality of practice.

The Kriya Yoga techniques themselves have to be gained from a qualified Kriyaban (http://www.yogananda-srf.org/Kriya_Yoga_path_of_meditation.aspx)

[DeDukshyn]

whoever is promoting the issue that the pinneal gland is our gateway to higher realm is doing a great job in diverting our attention from the real one which is "thought ". creation starts with thought. the created propaganda which is perceive by the brain ( not the pinneal) gives birth to "ego" which gives birth to negative thought patterns that in turn prevents us from being our true selves. you see the media is doing a really great job in calcifying our thought. Thus even if I dont expose myself to fluoride and other chems I remain an idiot because I expose myself to the created matrix.

Have you taken time out in nature lately? away from the madness of the city. how does it feel? Did it put things in a better perspective?
guard your perception guard your thought.


What humans consider "thought" currently, is nothing more than byproduct of the ego. Stop your thought for 5 minutes without a single word or image thought - you have not control over it - the ego controls it ... Also thought itself does not create in the physical realm - manifestation has more to do with proper use of emotion; proper use of emotion frees it from the egos grasp and only then can thought be healed. but what humans consider "thought" today has only been destructive to man's true path. The opposite to thought is "knowing" - a sense we all have within us. When one is "knowing" thought has no place - it is a result of a perceived lack. We might agree to disagree on this ... which is fine (likely more a matter of semantics) :)

[greybeard]

Spiritual progress is a progression--everyone is where they are supposed to be ---the path gets narrower and narrower till what was once believed in is now found to be a distraction.
Experiences --gifts of healing etc are fine and have their place but they are found to have nothing to do with what you are at core--in other words Self realization.
Anything that comes and goes is not what you are.
Opening the Third eye or even Kundalini awakening which I experience, is not it.
Self is already complete, eternal, perfect---just needs to be realized by letting go of everything which it is not.
Enlightenment literally means --removal of ignorance.
Removal of a belief in a separate identity--oneness already exists (non-duality)
The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

[Bubu]

whoever is promoting the issue that the pinneal gland is our gateway to higher realm is doing a great job in diverting our attention from the real one which is "thought ". creation starts with thought. the created propaganda which is perceive by the brain ( not the pinneal) gives birth to "ego" which gives birth to negative thought patterns that in turn prevents us from being our true selves. you see the media is doing a really great job in calcifying our thought. Thus even if I dont expose myself to fluoride and other chems I remain an idiot because I expose myself to the created matrix.

Have you taken time out in nature lately? away from the madness of the city. how does it feel? Did it put things in a better perspective?
guard your perception guard your thought.


What humans consider "thought" currently, is nothing more than byproduct of the ego. Stop your thought for 5 minutes without a single word or image thought - you have not control over it - the ego controls it ... Also thought itself does not create in the physical realm - manifestation has more to do with proper use of emotion; proper use of emotion frees it from the egos grasp and only then can thought be healed. but what humans consider "thought" today has only been destructive to man's true path. The opposite to thought is "knowing" - a sense we all have within us. When one is "knowing" thought has no place - it is a result of a perceived lack. We might agree to disagree on this ... which is fine (likely more a matter of semantics) :)

When I am in nature my thought can wander from the sound of river water flowing, to the chirping of birds at day and crickets at night to the dancing of leaves with the wind and so on and there was no ego in it.
yes its more on semantics thats why I always say words are deceptive simply because we put different meanings on each.

[Bubu]

The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

yes Chris very true and probably most of us if not all here already knew it, but the more important thing to address is how do we do away with the ego.

[greybeard]

The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

yes Chris very true and probably most of us if not all here already knew it, but the more important thing to address is how do we do away with the ego.

There is a lot here on the link below Bubu but I suppose the realization that ego is just the identification with the story of me--in other words a thought.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=7764&viewfull=1#post7764

Regards Chris

[Bubu]

The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

yes Chris very true and probably most of us if not all here already knew it, but the more important thing to address is how do we do away with the ego.

There is a lot here on the link below Bubu but I suppose the realization that ego is just the identification with the story of me--in other words a thought.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=7764&viewfull=1#post7764

Regards Chris

Thanks Chris but there is 308 pages on it:)

"Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended".

can you please tell me if you have successfully done this already.

[greybeard]

The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

yes Chris very true and probably most of us if not all here already knew it, but the more important thing to address is how do we do away with the ego.

There is a lot here on the link below Bubu but I suppose the realization that ego is just the identification with the story of me--in other words a thought.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=7764&viewfull=1#post7764

Regards Chris

Thanks Chris but there is 308 pages on it:)

"Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended".

can you please tell me if you have successfully done this already.

Bubu, the first few pages are mainly about transcending the ego particularly in line with the teaching of the late Dr David Hawkins.

To answer your question--there is still ego in my case but im very aware of it so the effects of it are minimalistic, and short lived.
A me thought comes, I dont have to buy into it --invite it in for tea.
I dont own the thought, I did not ask it to come calling.
I can instigate thoughts but that is different.
On the whole my mind is quiet

Now this has taken time--the ego has been there for years.
Basically I had to, on a daily basis, read and view material coming from enlightened teachers.

Hope this helps.

Chris

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons the what if cap...

What if the ego (which so many seem to insist on banishing) is nothing more than the autopilot supplied with the meatsuit through which you are able to have, and hopefully enjoy, experiences on this plane.
From that perspective destruction of such would seem counter productive, no?
If one takes that perspective then simple acknowledgement of that fact enables precluding of that influence in any manifesting process undertaken subsequently all that energy and effort spent in suppression is no longer required...

[greybeard]

The ego will make you feel guilty for enjoying---laughing.
Ch

[DeDukshyn]

whoever is promoting the issue that the pinneal gland is our gateway to higher realm is doing a great job in diverting our attention from the real one which is "thought ". creation starts with thought. the created propaganda which is perceive by the brain ( not the pinneal) gives birth to "ego" which gives birth to negative thought patterns that in turn prevents us from being our true selves. you see the media is doing a really great job in calcifying our thought. Thus even if I dont expose myself to fluoride and other chems I remain an idiot because I expose myself to the created matrix.

Have you taken time out in nature lately? away from the madness of the city. how does it feel? Did it put things in a better perspective?
guard your perception guard your thought.


What humans consider "thought" currently, is nothing more than byproduct of the ego. Stop your thought for 5 minutes without a single word or image thought - you have not control over it - the ego controls it ... Also thought itself does not create in the physical realm - manifestation has more to do with proper use of emotion; proper use of emotion frees it from the egos grasp and only then can thought be healed. but what humans consider "thought" today has only been destructive to man's true path. The opposite to thought is "knowing" - a sense we all have within us. When one is "knowing" thought has no place - it is a result of a perceived lack. We might agree to disagree on this ... which is fine (likely more a matter of semantics) :)

When I am in nature my thought can wander from the sound of river water flowing, to the chirping of birds at day and crickets at night to the dancing of leaves with the wind and so on and there was no ego in it.
yes its more on semantics thats why I always say words are deceptive simply because we put different meanings on each.

Agreed - semantics :) What you call in your posts ~"thoughts from bird chirping to crickets" etc. -- this is what I call passive observation. What is usually considered as "thought" is inner dialogue with yourself. Becoming a passive observer silences the mind and the experience of being an observer replaces the thought (inner dialogue). This is setting the ego aside for a moment and yes nature is wonderful for helping one get into that "zone". Our definition of terms is varying a bit between us.

[DNA]

I have some experiential data to share.
At the ripe old age of 15 I discovered the books of Carlos Castaneda.
I've read almost all of the published works debunking him, and I really don't want to go there.
Instead I would just like to focus on my experience in so as it relates to practices good ole Carlos recommended.
Open eye meditation is what I pulled from Castaneda. Especially shadow gazing. It sounds elementary enough but the experiences associated are truly profound, further more, it is my experience that open eye meditation truly activates the third eye faster than any other method.


Pebble gazing is the easiest way to get started. You choose a small rock, about the size of a pea but depending on your vision you can make it a little bigger.
The reason you want the rock small will soon become apparent.
Quicker results will be had if you gaze at the pebble's shadow rather than the pebble, but both will work.
You need to do this in an area where you will not be interrupted, and your gaze on the object should not break if you want good results.
In a short amount of time, the pebble will become imbued with your energy, and when this happens for some reason your third eye opens.
The extent you will be able to do this will depend upon your ability to quiet your internal dialogue and achieve the state of mind where one is not talking to one's self.
It should be noted, fixating one's gaze makes it monumentally easier to quiet the internal dialogue.
Control of one's mind and of one's eyes seems to be linked for some reason.
Also, a larger stone takes longer to become soaked with your energy, this is why the smaller stone is recommended.



After practicing this method for years,,,,
I made a breakthrough at the ripe old age of 28.
I became capable of seeing ghosts. For further details concerning this see this thread. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21695-How-To-See-A-Ghost-For-Yourself
The pertinent piece of information I wish to share would be this. Ghosts have a very prominent red dot in the middle of their heads. Ghosts being translucent heads and bodies allows one to get a view into their being.
I was blown away by this the first few times I was to see it.
Ghosts have a red dot exactly corresponding to where their pineal gland should be.
I can't help but to think folks in India have seen this and this is why they do the red dot on their foreheads.


One last thing, if you go ahead and practice this, it's a good idea to bury the stone you've used after you are done.
The reason being your energy residue can lead to you in so far as astral beings are concerned.
This is why it is probably not a good idea to use statues or walls for this practice.

[Bubu]

The seeking of powers is a desire to be special--to be different--in other words, of the ego.

Chris

yes Chris very true and probably most of us if not all here already knew it, but the more important thing to address is how do we do away with the ego.

There is a lot here on the link below Bubu but I suppose the realization that ego is just the identification with the story of me--in other words a thought.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=7764&viewfull=1#post7764

Regards Chris

Thanks Chris but there is 308 pages on it:)

"Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended".

can you please tell me if you have successfully done this already.

Bubu, the first few pages are mainly about transcending the ego particularly in line with the teaching of the late Dr David Hawkins.

To answer your question--there is still ego in my case but im very aware of it so the effects of it are minimalistic, and short lived.
A me thought comes, I dont have to buy into it --invite it in for tea.
I dont own the thought, I did not ask it to come calling.
I can instigate thoughts but that is different.
On the whole my mind is quiet

Now this has taken time--the ego has been there for years.
Basically I had to, on a daily basis, read and view material coming from enlightened teachers.

Hope this helps.

Chris

Thanks again this gives inspiration to me. I knew it can be done. I too have moments of no ego. Although in the city its kind of rare to get into the zone

[Bubu]

I have some experiential data to share.
At the ripe old age of 15 I discovered the books of Carlos Castaneda.
I've read almost all of the published works debunking him, and I really don't want to go there.
Instead I would just like to focus on my experience in so as it relates to practices good ole Carlos recommended.
Open eye meditation is what I pulled from Castaneda. Especially shadow gazing. It sounds elementary enough but the experiences associated are truly profound, further more, it is my experience that open eye meditation truly activates the third eye faster than any other method.


Pebble gazing is the easiest way to get started. You choose a small rock, about the size of a pea but depending on your vision you can make it a little bigger.
The reason you want the rock small will soon become apparent.
Quicker results will be had if you gaze at the pebble's shadow rather than the pebble, but both will work.
You need to do this in an area where you will not be interrupted, and your gaze on the object should not break if you want good results.
In a short amount of time, the pebble will become imbued with your energy, and when this happens for some reason your third eye opens.
The extent you will be able to do this will depend upon your ability to quiet your internal dialogue and achieve the state of mind where one is not talking to one's self.
It should be noted, fixating one's gaze makes it monumentally easier to quiet the internal dialogue.
Control of one's mind and of one's eyes seems to be linked for some reason.
Also, a larger stone takes longer to become soaked with your energy, this is why the smaller stone is recommended.



After practicing this method for years,,,,
I made a breakthrough at the ripe old age of 28.
I became capable of seeing ghosts. For further details concerning this see this thread. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21695-How-To-See-A-Ghost-For-Yourself
The pertinent piece of information I wish to share would be this. Ghosts have a very prominent red dot in the middle of their heads. Ghosts being translucent heads and bodies allows one to get a view into their being.
I was blown away by this the first few times I was to see it.
Ghosts have a red dot exactly corresponding to where their pineal gland should be.
I can't help but to think folks in India have seen this and this is why they do the red dot on their foreheads.


One last thing, if you go ahead and practice this, it's a good idea to bury the stone you've used after you are done.
The reason being your energy residue can lead to you in so far as astral beings are concerned.
This is why it is probably not a good idea to use statues or walls for this practice.

May we know what happened when your 3rd eye opened? other than seeing ghost, Does it give you more peace and joy.

[DNA]

May we know what happened when your 3rd eye opened? other than seeing ghost, Does it give you more peace and joy.



I would love to answer your question in terms of yes or no.
The opening of the third eye is a meditative experience, meaning you need to will for it to happen, and it only stays open for the time you are meditating. It is as if the demands of day to day life ignite your internal dialogue and sap you of the required energy to keep your third eye open.
Opening your third eye, atleast for myself means you see a connected field of energy between all things.
The energy seems liquid like and in constant motion.
I think it also makes sense that as you are able to see this energy connecting all things you feel more connected as well.
During the opening of the third eye you feel excellent and the experience has a positive after effect as well.


But,,,,
It is not all fun and games.
Once you open you're third eye, my guess is that you become like a beacon to the astral realm.
Ghosts and entities begin to seek you out.
I should amend what I had previously stated in my earlier post.
I had stated in my earlier post that I had opened my third eye at 28. This is not exactly true, for I had experienced my third eye being opened very quickly after beginning the open eye meditations, within a year.
And as soon as I began to do this it was as if I could "sense" beings within my vicinity without full on seeing them.
At twenty eight I was practicing an open eye meditation on my ceiling. I had one of those popcorn type ceilings with a lot of texture in it, as such I could focus on one small piece of the ceiling that was about the size of a pebble, during this meditation a ghost simply showed up and began making passes over my body. It began harnessing my life force.
It was acting as a parasite.
This is one of the reasons I say use a small pebble and bury it afterwards, because when you meditate on things that are permanent fixtures, especially within your own home, you tend to attract unwanted guests. You leave behind an energy residue that can be discovered and tracked to you by beings in the astral. It was this incident where upon I noted I could see ghosts and I expand on this experiencein the link I placed in my previous post. From this moment on if I felt a ghost like presense I could enter a quick meditative state which would open my third eye and then I would see it. I give instructions on the easiest method to see a ghost for yourself in that previous post.


So, the bottom line to your answer is this.
Although it feels great to open your third eye and such, doing so causes you to notice that which is in the astral more.
Beings living in the astral are almost entirely parasitic in nature, so when you notice them you are giving them attention, and where your attention goes your energy goes, so in fact you are now becoming the focus of parasitic entities.
This literally sucks.


I expand on this here. PARASITIC NON-ORGANIC MULITDIMENSIONAL BEINGS http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21614-Parasitic-Non-Organic-Multidimensional-Beings

[DeDukshyn]

 
Dislodging fear from the subconscious should go hand in hand with with opening the "third eye" -- if you don't, your eye will not stay open. Fear is "food" to some entities - they will bug you if you harbour it. Not sure about the "beacon" thing but just realize the pineal isn't a magical thing - it is a sensory organ - like an eye, hence the name. All it allows you to do is see the unseen. These entities feed off your fear, whether your third is open or not - being able to perceive this is the "disturbing" part. Once fear is purged from your subconscious these entities no longer have much interest in you - they are only interested in your fear. When fear is dissolved from the subconscious, the pineal will begin to open it's "antenna" automatically, but shuts down on consistent fear. Tricks used to open it usually are not permanent -- but they can be "eye-opening" - pun intended ;)

So Bubu - in your assertion that the pineal doesn't grant a person "super powers" - I would agree ... in a community of deaf people is hearing a super power? The Pineal is an antenna - a receiver, nothing much more, but without having such a sense in our historical existence makes it seem ... "super". :)

[amor]

I posted something about this in the past. The ANKH is the "purse" being carried by the Anunnaki in one hand and the pine cone, pineal gland representation, in the other hand represented in the Babylonian tablets brought to our attention by Zachariah Sitchin. A book was written, which I mentioned in the previous posting, about the ANKH being a simple antenna device which when held in the hand of someone with sufficient Melanin in the skin passes a current to the Pineal Gland. I believe this causes the gland to have secretions leading either to long or everlasting life. Anyone versed in radio electronics can replicate this device. White people, according to the book, have insufficient melanin in the skin to complete the circuit between the ANKH and the Pineal Gland. There is a way around everything if you look for it. The circuit device appears to pull electrical energy from the air and/or is working with the electric field which surrounds and permeates the human body.

[DNA]

Dislodging fear from the subconscious should go hand in hand with with opening the "third eye" -- if you don't, your eye will not stay open. Fear is "food" to some entities - they will bug you if you harbour it. Not sure about the "beacon" thing but just realize the pineal isn't a magical thing - it is a sensory organ - like an eye, hence the name. All it allows you to do is see the unseen. These entities feed off your fear, whether your third is open or not - being able to perceive this is the "disturbing" part. Once fear is purged from your subconscious these entities no longer have much interest in you - they are only interested in your fear. When fear is dissolved from the subconscious, the pineal will begin to open it's "antenna" automatically, but shuts down on consistent fear. Tricks used to open it usually are not permanent -- but they can be "eye-opening" - pun intended ;)

So Bubu - in your assertion that the pineal doesn't grant a person "super powers" - I would agree ... in a community of deaf people is hearing a super power? The Pineal is an antenna - a receiver, nothing much more, but without having such a sense in our historical existence makes it seem ... "super". :)


Fear can be a factor but it's hardly exclusive.
I will repeat, attention is the key. It is because these things are not only within your visual perception, but within your empathic perception that these things are now capable of being given attention, and where attention goes so to does your energy.
The key is detachment, one needs to practice healthy detachment while dealing with these things.
I don't exactly know what you mean about purging fear from your subconscious, perhaps you might elaborate or give your method for accomplishing this. For myself I do not believe this is really possible, or even desirable, we all feel fear from time to time and this is hardly a bad thing. To me, no offense, those are just kind of hallow meaningless words. It has the same hoaky connentation as "if you just believe in yourself you can do it".
Detachment can be practiced simply by controlling your attention.
If fear is a problem, I think it can help if you know beyond a shadow of a doubt, that ghosts can not affect matter. Ghosts can not move anything, they can't strike you, and except for taking some of your energy through their presence they can not really hurt you.
I know people like to present poltergeist activity as evidence to the contrary, but my explanation on this account would be that the entities involved in poltergeist activity are not ghosts. I'm not saying the phenomenon does not exist, I'm simply stating that this is something else entirely.
Activating the third eye is actually more than just "seeing the unseen" in my opinion. While your third eye is open you are vibrating at a different frequency, your whole being is affected, not just your etheric sight.


And in so far as entities feeding off of fear is concerned this is a very limited point of view.
Entities feed off of sexual energy, feelings of love, and they can feed off of healing energies if you are so inclined to send them.
These beings can also touch you, not in a manner where upon you would feel a hand smack you on the back, but the touch can raise the hairs on your arm and send the chill down your spine folks often associate with the remark "someone just walked over my grave". A ghost touch can elicit a pleasant sensation from a touch or a skin crawling sensation.
You can often feel a ghosts presence without seeing it, but seeing it provides the confirmation you may need to know absolutely it is there. Ghosts are incredibly common, it is absolutely no big deal if they are there. But ghosts as a rule do feed on folks, and I suppose this is done whether you know about them or not.
Again I expand on all of this quite a bit here, as well as quite a few other folks expanding on the subject it is worth the read if you are so inclined. Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21614-Parasitic-Non-Organic-Multidimensional-Beings)

[Inversion]

This is a short and very interesting video. Pine pollen has been used in Chinese medicine for years and he pineal gland releases melatonin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin). Pine pollen (https://www.healthline.com/health/pine-pollen) has the shape of Mickey Mouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse) ears. Yesterday, I was pondering if Mickey is some kind of symbolism and mouse is singular for mice. Kerry Cassidy said Pine is another name for the Secret Space Program (SSP).

Military Industrial Complex (MIC) + key
Military Industrial Complex Extraterrestrial (MICE)
Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex (MIEC)

post#317 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-Dulce-Base-and-Cherry-Hinkle-s-testimony/page16)

P17. Pine Gap is controlled by the Club of Rome which is a cover for the Illuminati.

Fontana della Pigna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontana_della_Pigna)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqnoaHyDWf8
Hey Mickey (www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqLwHP4y6Q)
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[pabranno]

Inversion, so strange you mention that. I was trying to find symbolism behind Mickey Mouse last week. Didn’t find much, didn’t look long.
Nice to see this thread rebooted.
I agree, the ‘purse’ and the pine cone on many statues etc is intriguing.
And the Vatican sculpture… interesting thread, this.
Nite the AnnunKi also used it.

Pamela

[Inversion]

Pine-Sol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine-Sol) seems to depict a nutrient loop. See video in post#36.

earthsky (https://earthsky.org/space/what-is-the-suns-name/#:~:text=You'll%20never%20see%20Sol,the%20Greek%20sun%20god%20Helios.)

You’ll never see Sol used by astronomers in their scientific writings, for example, unless they are writing in Spanish, Portuguese, or Swedish where sol translates as sun.

Solis is Latin for sun. Sol is the Roman equivalent of the Greek sun god Helios.

A pinecone is held in one hand and a bag/bucket in the other. It's speculated it may contain holy water.
post#1 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118606-James-Rink-Book-s--Videos)

P345. Water is sentient.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1PHMU4E8g

If you have seen many ancient Mesopotamian and Sumerian sculptures, you might've noticed some deities with wings or genies holding a bag on one hand and a pine cone on another, sometimes before a tree. But what's the need? What does the pine cone and the hand bag represent?

Many scholars say that the bag contains some purifying water that the deity used to purify an object or a person by dipping the pine cone in it and by sprinkling the water. But why use a PINE CONE!? and why does the pine cone and hand bag/bucket symbolism appear in many cultures around the world!? And why in some pictures the deities are seen with those objects in front of a Tree? Is that the TREE OF LIFE!?

Ancient Astronaut theorists say that the bucket might've been some kind of battery that the Alien Gods or Anunnakis used to generate power in the Spaceships. The pine cone may represent the third eye or consciousness and the Anunnakis standing in front of a tree could mean that they're altering our DNA with that tree representing the DNA. But what's the real truth? What's the true meaning of Pine cone and Hand Bag symbolism? In this video, I've tried to cover all the theories and facts and about the other cultures which use those bag and pine cone symbolism from which you can get an idea of what they could actually mean. So make sure to watch this video video till the end!

[Inversion]

This is a list of the locations around the world with the name Pine. There's a zoomable map in the link with the plotted locations.

geotargit (https://geotargit.com/called.php?qcity=Pine)

Number of places named Pine per country:
There are 9 places named Pine in America.

Pine - Texas
Pine - Pennsylvania
Pine - Oregon
Pine - New York
Pine - Louisiana
Pine - Indiana
Pine - Idaho
Pine - Colorado
Pine - Arizona

Cities named Pine in Liberia.
Pine - Sinoe (anagram (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=sinoe&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) for noise)

Cities named Pine in Guinea.
Piné - GN (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pin%C3%A9,+Guinea/@8.9069366,-8.2062069,2122735m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xfaf9324a8e90371:0x8ad2c91bea23615b!8m2!3d7.933333!4d-8.15)

Cities named Pine (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pine+Hill,+Bridgetown,+Barbados/@13.0981607,-59.5972191,2575m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8c43f6e85738c28b:0x1298443a5bcfb58a!8m2!3d13.1003993!4d-59.5960343) in Barbados.
Pine - Saint Michael (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)) (archangel)

[DeeMetrios]

The Pineal Gland is non natural , a negative ET gland infused into our physiology by genetic manipulation done many thousands of years ago ( Atlantis / Lemuria) .
I believe its very dangerous n best left calcified .