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WhiteLove
17th December 2016, 21:42
There is some great new content on YouTube coming out, but great content is also being removed, the YouTube platform itself I find is getting gradually worse and worse day by day. The latest trend of putting "Video will play after ad" on tons of videos is not great at all, overall you can see a pattern where gradually in small fractions at a time you are exposed to more and more ads on a daily basis, I don't want that, I want to consume the content that is made available by the general public for the general public. At the same time there are things about YouTube that I find is "too expensive" to be consumed by billions of users on a daily basis, things like having to re-configure the filter criteria on every search, extreme amounts of duplicate content, lots of links that lead to videos that are unavailable and so on. It is just not a platform that you feel excited about although you are glad it exists.

I think we are ready for something better. What are the options? Any new promising services being released around the corner?

Will look at Vimeo now... :blackwidow:

EDIT: I went through a number of options, Vimeo was the best I found right now, an option that did not force me to click on a signup button and an option that let me watch videos in my region. That's a good start. I also looked at "TED", felt a little like taking an economy seat in a SAS airplane, I bet there is tons of stuff that is not true in the content, plenty of made up stuff presented as facts I bet.

Nick Matkin
17th December 2016, 23:31
http://www.liveleak.com/

Beware, quite a bit 'grittier' than Youtube and you don't have to dig too deep. The horror of real life is there - shown graphically - that hopefully most of us won't ever experience.

Mike Gorman
18th December 2016, 01:18
It is now technically pretty easy to host your own video platform, it is incredibly cheap to do so with resources such as Amazon AWS, WordPress to build a website and host petabytes of video files very cheaply - so if you have an entrepreneurial flair, or ambition it really is exceedingly possible to build your own and completely side-step being a consumer passively waiting for someone to do something for you, and to actually engage with our global network. This was the original intention of the people who enabled the internet to become available - the internet was really the archetypal 'black operation' we sometimes forget this because we have become so conditioned to regard 'Google' & 'Microsoft', 'Facebook' type businesses as being the internet, but they are not. When Tim Berners-Lee developed the means for all documents to be linked and accessed across all networks (The 'WWW') we were liberated. It seems to me that people all over the globe have forgotten this and we need to fully appreciate the potential we all have for truly using the resources we all have access to. It is not difficult to learn how to use these tools, and we can also leverage the talents of others very cheaply and effectively.

Star Tsar
18th December 2016, 02:52
"Video will play after ad" on tons of videos is not great at all

A host file will take care of those for you Whitelove....

One can find it here with installation instructions but if you need help PM me.

http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

latina
18th December 2016, 03:04
Hi there: My son installed AdBlock in my computer years ago and since then I have no problems with ads in youtube or any other page. It's free you only give a donation if you want to. that's all and it works perfect! If i find a page that doesn't allow me to read it's content with the blocker on I just paused the program for just the time i need it. Of course those five minutes or so I have to allow those ads when finished with my reading or whatever I just Unpaused the blocker. Peace

EFO
18th December 2016, 09:23
There is some great new content on YouTube coming out, but great content is also being removed, the YouTube platform itself I find is getting gradually worse and worse day by day. The latest trend of putting "Video will play after ad" on tons of videos is not great at all, overall you can see a pattern where gradually in small fractions at a time you are exposed to more and more ads on a daily basis, I don't want that, I want to consume the content that is made available by the general public for the general public. At the same time there are things about YouTube that I find is "too expensive" to be consumed by billions of users on a daily basis, things like having to re-configure the filter criteria on every search, extreme amounts of duplicate content, lots of links that lead to videos that are unavailable and so on. It is just not a platform that you feel excited about although you are glad it exists.

I think we are ready for something better. What are the options? Any new promising services being released around the corner?

Will look at Vimeo now... :blackwidow:

EDIT: I went through a number of options, Vimeo was the best I found right now, an option that did not force me to click on a signup button and an option that let me watch videos in my region. That's a good start. I also looked at "TED", felt a little like taking an economy seat in a SAS airplane, I bet there is tons of stuff that is not true in the content, plenty of made up stuff presented as facts I bet.

WhiteLove follow latina's advice and click on the icon representing your browser,ABP will be installed automatically and a small red icon will appear on the right side of search bar in your browser.If you have more browsers do the same thing for all of them.This is the link https://adblockplus.org/

Excepting youtube,vimeo and other well known video content platforms you can use:
Moj Video (My video) http://www.mojvideo.com/
RUTUBE https://rutube.ru/
Both platforms have the almost the same interface/layout as youtube,therefor will be easy to navigate.
Sometimes you'll be amazed when you will find deleted content from youtube and others.Both platforms supports latin characters. :)

Wizard Of Ozark
18th December 2016, 09:48
It is now technically pretty easy to host your own video platform, it is incredibly cheap to do so with resources such as Amazon AWS, WordPress to build a website and host petabytes of video files very cheaply - so if you have an entrepreneurial flair, or ambition it really is exceedingly possible to build your own and completely side-step being a consumer passively waiting for someone to do something for you, and to actually engage with our global network. This was the original intention of the people who enabled the internet to become available - the internet was really the archetypal 'black operation' we sometimes forget this because we have become so conditioned to regard 'Google' & 'Microsoft', 'Facebook' type businesses as being the internet, but they are not. When Tim Berners-Lee developed the means for all documents to be linked and accessed across all networks (The 'WWW') we were liberated. It seems to me that people all over the globe have forgotten this and we need to fully appreciate the potential we all have for truly using the resources we all have access to. It is not difficult to learn how to use these tools, and we can also leverage the talents of others very cheaply and effectively.

As a sidenote to this thread I just have to comment that this is my first encounter ever with the word "petabytes", so thank you! Probably won't be the last. I like to pay attention to those roadmarks. We are living in interesting times. I still remember having one of the early "pong" game consoles, that also came with a plastic pistol so you could shoot at a huge bouncing pixel on your television screen. Holey moley is technology advancing fast, now. I like the idea of the world wide web being a tool of planetary liberation, not as another tool of control. I worked at an engineering university in the early 90s and remember discovering the internet through usenet groups on a black and white Mac Classic. Anyway... too much rambling. But "petabytes". Nice.

norman
18th December 2016, 21:05
https://www.minds.com/

This site looks like it's a cross between youtube, myspace and facebook.

East Sun
18th December 2016, 22:40
I don't do google, nor twitter, nor do I do facebook nor, i could go on and on.
i dont do smart anything, ABSOLUTELY no smart meters or smart phones. period.........

stuff your smart everything 'where the sun don't shine'
no way,
young people take NOTICE, listen to me.......i'm 74 so you're younger, make sure you don't get screwed,
they are out to screw you..............LISTEN............

NOW it's up to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pass it on and on and on...............

Frances2014
19th December 2016, 15:38
''I think we are ready for something better. ''

Thank you.

That is what I have been feeling deep within for a while now.
Something that does not exist yet
... whispers from my heart...
We will manifest what we need,
so that WE THE PEOPLE,
we will stay connected both in our inner and outer space,
to experience and explore ouselves, each other and our world.
with the most important thing in this entire universe...
FREE WILL.

Meet some ELF (s)
Equality ... Liberty ... Fraternity...

Blessings to all...

TargeT
19th December 2016, 17:20
. The latest trend of putting "Video will play after ad" on tons of videos is not great at all, overall you can see a pattern where gradually in small fractions at a time you are exposed to more and more ads on a daily basis, I don't want that, I want to consume the content that is made available by the general public for the general public.

So you want to watch videos for free, and you don't want the creator of the video to get any compensation?

My youtube channel only has a handful of videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/CruzanCowgirls), but it represents over 100 hours of work editing, filming, coming up with ideas etc... Content creation is a LOT of work and the owners of those channels are the people putting the adds there in the hope that they will get compensation.

If you were willing to pay to watch videos (YOUTUBE RED) you won't get adds, but your watching for free, and I for one quit making content on my channel because my time is valuable and I can use it more effectively elsewhere to greater personal compensation.

Becareful what you wish for... you might not like it if you haven't thought all the connected scenarios through.

ExomatrixTV
19th December 2016, 22:10
http://vid.me is growing really big & fast! ... in my opinion the best alternative to youtube!

DeDukshyn
20th December 2016, 00:10
. The latest trend of putting "Video will play after ad" on tons of videos is not great at all, overall you can see a pattern where gradually in small fractions at a time you are exposed to more and more ads on a daily basis, I don't want that, I want to consume the content that is made available by the general public for the general public.

So you want to watch videos for free, and you don't want the creator of the video to get any compensation?

My youtube channel only has a handful of videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/CruzanCowgirls), but it represents over 100 hours of work editing, filming, coming up with ideas etc... Content creation is a LOT of work and the owners of those channels are the people putting the adds there in the hope that they will get compensation.

If you were willing to pay to watch videos (YOUTUBE RED) you won't get adds, but your watching for free, and I for one quit making content on my channel because my time is valuable and I can use it more effectively elsewhere to greater personal compensation.

Becareful what you wish for... you might not like it if you haven't thought all the connected scenarios through.

Keep this aspect in mind ...

If There's no compensation then people have to create videos because the content is: A) very important - too important to not share, B) content that is created out of the love of doing so.

It seems 80% of content on Youtube these days has vastly compromised content as the quality of the content will take a backseat to putting up content that can get a click or a view - content independent.

Wish supported. :)

WhiteLove
20th December 2016, 20:50
So you want to watch videos for free, and you don't want the creator of the video to get any compensation?

Kind of, the ads and making money adds some degree of limitation, impact the incentive and mess with the vibrational situation at the moment of consumption as well as during production. Since your aim becomes to earn money and create excitement to earn views, whatever that works becomes what you do, the truthfulness of the content easily becomes a secondary concern, there might be a responsibility drop too. Of course not necessarily, but content produced out of love is a different thing, it automatically has less limitation and a higher vibrational signature, simply put it is more true over time and has better scalability.

Truth first. One of the reasons why PA rocks so much...

amor
21st December 2016, 01:15
"The laborer is worthy of his hire." There is a compromise here in the way the screen in set up. It must be wide enough to accommodate the slim, vertical, AD on the left side where it can stay for a longer period of time while the viewer looks at the video. What is upsetting is when the pop-ups block out the video in part or in whole.

WhiteLove
21st December 2016, 20:05
"The laborer is worthy of his hire." There is a compromise here in the way the screen in set up. It must be wide enough to accommodate the slim, vertical, AD on the left side where it can stay for a longer period of time while the viewer looks at the video. What is upsetting is when the pop-ups block out the video in part or in whole.

Yep, that's frustrating and also the fact that YouTube is being flooded with this type of content:

T9UJM9xfS6Y

TargeT
21st December 2016, 20:11
Yep, that's frustrating and also the fact that YouTube is being flooded with this type of content:

T9UJM9xfS6Y

It shouldn't be.. that's a GREAT discernment test..

Great for self analysis.. if you feel drawn to "click" on something, but there is absolutely NO valid reason (just a circle and an arrow and some "leading" words) then you will be able to recognize when your innate programming is being taken advantage of and become immune.

I don't even see those types of videos anymore, my brain just filters them out as noise.

norman
21st December 2016, 22:27
http://vid.me is growing really big & fast! ... in my opinion the best alternative to youtube!

We'll know it's arrived when Google buys it for 15 billion.