Giant human skeleton found in Malaysia, in a giant grave

[xeon]

This just came out in a Malaysian newspaper. Highly interesting...

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/12/18/giant-human-skeleton-found-historian-also-discovers-largerthanusual-graves-on-island/

These giant graves have been long known for many years, but nobody excavated them. They are purportedly from holy Islamic preachers or famous men/warriors, who visited or lived in Malaysia hundreds of years ago.

What makes this report interesting is the fact that a researcher has now stuck his head out and made his findings public. And he claims to have seen the bones too, which based on what he says - are huge.

I am thinking that some kind of partial "disclosure" (which suits the TPTB narrative) is near or going on, based on what I'm reading of late. Which many of you guys may also be already aware of....

And this "news" is also some sort of additional "dripfeed" in that direction, me thinks. It will be interesting to see what the Malaysian government will do about this. Will they cart the bones away and hush it all up, like what the Smithsonian Institute has been doing all along? :facepalm:

[shaberon]

Well, Malaysia is somewhat...rebuffing...of western power isn't it? Doesn't recognize Israel, convicted one of the Bushes of war crimes? I'm somewhat hopeful it's a place that can act independently. Nice find.

[CurEus]

Congrats Xeon on an interesting find.! I'm fascinated by giant mythology and was most impressed with our cousins the Hobbits or Homo Flourensis in the last few years. The storm of controversy for that is nothing in comparison to the discovery of giant human remains...which tend to "disappear" rather quickly all too often.

Apparently this was to preserve some Darwinian evolutionary paradigm...which makes precious little sense as every other mammal and plant has a mega flora or mega fauna counterpart...supported by the fossil record. The best information I have to date from a scientific perspective is that the Earth at one time had a MUCH higher level of Oxygen ( which negates the need for for lower gravity) and a very thick atmosphere that blocked much of the UVA and UVB spectrum of light from the sun which is replicated in labs. All the creatures tested so far have grown 6 times their normal size...its been posited that poisonous animals lose their poison and animals tend not to need to eat very much as they rely on the excessive oxygen/ or Co2 for energy metabolism. Perhaps there was an Eden where animals didn't eat one another?

The scientist conducting the studies at his university is an avowed "creationist" which rankles his peers so his work is continually challenged, but the results are interesting. I tend not to be satisfied with current "dating" methods or of geological formations myself. They are wildly inaccurate, variable and completely subjective. I'll try to find some papers by the researcher and his videos.

[SpookyMulder]

Very interesting indeed, but not quite surprising.

As we know real history has been hidden from us, it would be interesting to see what "The Smithsonian Institute" has managed to hide in various warehouses around the world?

[LoneWolf76]

Well, the Darwinian "theory" of evolution is starting to fall apart as more people are exposed to the scientific evidence... See here (https://www.sott.net/article/336663-Scientists-confirm-Darwinism-is-broken)

[Bill Ryan]

This just came out in a Malaysian newspaper. Highly interesting...

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/12/18/giant-human-skeleton-found-historian-also-discovers-largerthanusual-graves-on-island (http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/12/18/giant-human-skeleton-found-historian-also-discovers-largerthanusual-graves-on-island/)



The article may be important, and is worth quoting in full:

Giant human skeleton found
by R.S.N. MURALI (http://www.thestar.com.my/authors?q=%22R+S+N++Murali%22)

http://www.thestar.com.my/%7E/media/online/2016/12/17/18/47/main_1812_p3a_oo.ashx/?w=620&h=413&crop=1&hash=2B6EAFFE9DCE677A0A2DE6206F6D8A6B67D57DA8
Historical find: Mohd Fuad’s assistant Azman Wahab at the large grave site in Pulau Upeh.

MALACCA: A historian claims to have discovered skeletal remains of what is believed to be a larger-than-usual man in a cave in Pulau Upeh, off the coast here.

Mohd Fuad Khusari M. Said, who was appointed by the Malacca go­vernment to search for new historical sites, said he discovered some bones partially exposed above the ground in Pulau Upeh.

He also found two other unusually large graves some 1.2km outside the cave.

The graves measuring about 5m by 0.5m are located about 15m to 20m away from each other.

“I have reported the findings to the authorities because we have no right to excavate the site without permission,” he told The Star yesterday.

He said the discovery could be proof to validate claims that early settlers in Malacca, including du­ring the Malay Sultanate, were large in structure.

The historian, who has 10 years experience in archaeological stu­dies, said based on the size of the skull and the length of the bones, the remains could measure between 3m and 5m long.

Mohd Fuad said the length of the skeletal remains matched the large graves of Sultan Ariffin and seven warrior brothers in Pulau Besar.

“There was no excavation work at any of these grave sites, thus the tales of the giant settlers remain a myth.

“However, the research on this latest find could help prove or disprove claims that giant-sized men roamed Malacca a long time ago,” he added.

He said there were historical records of sightings of giant races, dating back to the Mayans, and even as recently as 1871 when a newspaper reported the finding of some 200 giant skeletons in Cayuga, Ontario, Canada.

“So, it’s not strange to have sighting of giants in this part of the world and we need to carry out an in-depth research into such claims,” said Mohd Fuad.

There have been previous findings of “gigantic graves” in Pulau Besar here, believed to belong to Muslim religious leaders from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, India and Java, who came to Malacca to spread Islam during the early days of the Malacca Sultanate.

Institute of Historical and Patriotism Studies of Malaysia chairman Prof Datuk Wira Dr Mohd Jamil Mukmin said that the graves were huge compared to modern ones.

“These could probably be due to the size of those buried in those graves, or they were dug larger than usual as an honour to them for spreading Islam in this part of the world,” he said yesterday.

He said Pulau Upeh was once a base for Javanese religious leaders who travelled to the Port of Malacca to conduct Islamic classes for the locals and traders in the 15th century, while the giant-sized graves in Pulau Besar mostly belonged to those from Yemen.

Chief Minister Datuk Seri Idris Haron said he had been informed of the latest finding in Pulau Upeh.

“Yes, we have commissioned the historian to provide facts about undiscovered historical sites and research was ongoing for the latest discovery of the giant-sized remains,” he said.

Idris said he was told that vill­agers from the mainland had placed tombstones on the graves a few years ago.

Malacca’s Barisan Nasional’s social service centre director Amir Hamzah Aziz said the story of a mysterious giant’s remains in Pulau Upeh had been circulating since the 1990s.

“Many claimed to have sighted the remains there, and if it is true, we must preserve it for the future generation,” he said, adding that there could be some truth to claims that the early settlers in Malacca were much larger than the current population.

[7alon]

What do you mean by the article itself may be important Bill? Does it correlate with something?

[Bill Ryan]

What do you mean by the article itself may be important Bill? Does it correlate with something?

No — just that in my opinion it was well worth reading in full. Mohd Fuad really did find something, and the dimensions are huge. Sometimes when people just quote a link in a post (and there's no criticism here!), members don't actually go the extra step to click and read it. I wanted to draw attention to the detail in the article.

[7alon]

What do you mean by the article itself may be important Bill? Does it correlate with something?

No — just that in my opinion it was well worth reading in full. Mohd Fuad really did find something, and the dimensions are huge. Sometimes when people just quote a link in a post (and there's no criticism here!), members don't actually go the extra step to click and read it. I wanted to draw attention to the detail in the article.

Thanks for the clarity :) I was a little confused, because you often share correlating stories and thought I may have missed something that stood out in the article :sherlock:

[Cardillac]

I think the bit about possibly being Islamic preachers is jibberish; these giants had have existed looong before Islam was invented;

it's even in Genesis that giants once roamed the earth- for more info on this subject please do read Richard J. Dewhurst's book "The Giants Who Ruled America" (mound builders!) with the subtitle "The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up"- truly informative!-

be well all-

Larry :-)

[Ewan]

I'm always interested in these stories/findings, but I note that the photgraph depicts a surface dimension that is too narrow for its length when compared to the ratio of a human form.

(May be insignificant when (if) excavated, just an observation. The surface shape may be in relation to the headstone and not the remains within).

[DNA]

This isn't Malaysia but it is a report from the Muslim speaking world and as such I think it provides some insight.


I thought the article below was very interesting regarding the thread topic, so I posted the article in it's entirety. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0802%20Sun.gif


Most Afghans Are Certain The Demons Of Myth Actually Roam The Earth
http://www.businessinsider.com/afgha...onsters-2013-3 (http://www.businessinsider.com/afghan-mythology-is-home-to-monsters-2013-3)


All cultures have fairy tales and folklore, stories that teach morality or emphasize the importance of not going into dark or dangerous places all by yourself. Some are so effective that they leave our siblings too terrified to go swimming in the ocean as kids, and, to this day, if I hear noises coming from under my bed in the middle of the night I’m high-tailing it out of my room and not coming back without some silver bullets or a wooden stake or a priest/rabbi/shaman or something. (What? Jaws and The Exorcist were what passed for fairy tales in my house growing up. Thanks, Dad.)
Like us, Afghans have myths and stories, legends and monsters. Overall, though, they tend to be a bit more superstitious than your average American. Not many Americans (openly) believe in fairies, dragons or headless horsemen. Until it’s dark anyway. And a whole lot of us still knock on wood or toss spilled salt over our left shoulders or even just say “bless you” when someone sneezes. They may be reflexive, but we still often do them.
Many Afghans, though, are pretty certain that the monsters of yore are still stomping around the earth. While out on a patrol with some local policemen, we came across this grave marker:
It was about 20 meters (about 65 feet) long. One of the policemen pointed at it and said, “This was a famous giant. He was almost 20 meters tall, that is why his grave is so long.”
“A giant?” I asked, perhaps a touch skeptically.
“Yes!” chimed in a second one. “As recently as 80 years ago, there were giants all over in this area!”
“Ah, so maybe just really tall people, like 2.5 meters (8-9 feet). That happens sometimes,” I replied.
“No, no!” a third guy insisted. “Not just tall people, real giants. This man was a small one at only 20 meters. Some were as tall as 30 meters (almost 100 feet)!”
I continued to be somewhat cynical, thinking they were pulling my leg and trying to suggest that if the grave marker was any indication of his size, he had been 20 meters tall, but really, really, really skinny.
Not only did my sarcasm fall on deaf ears, it actually insulted the Afghans. Before I knew it, I had a whole squad of Afghan police who were pretty angry and yelling at me. My interpreter, who had a university education and had lived abroad, was no exception–he was vehemently supporting them. As I stood there somewhat flabbergasted, one of my colleagues stepped in with our stories about giants, such as David and Goliath, and came across as much more open-minded. That mollified the crowd somewhat, and they explained that people’s grandparents had seen the giants and had told their grandchildren about them, so it must be true. In the end, the Afghans knewthat giants had roamed the earth within living memory and nothing some disbelieving (female) American could say was going to change the truth.
In my defense, my interpreter later admitted that Afghans do get a kick out of misleading people, especially Americans, about goofy things like this, and had they been doing so, I would have earned super cool points for calling them out. It just happened that the one time I thought they were joking, they weren’t.
In addition to giants, I knew of one mountain nearby that was inhabited by a dragon, who flew around with a giant diamond in its mouth and would eat anyone who went up the mountain alone at night.
Not too far from that mountain was another one where evil dwarves lived, who would kill you if you went up their mountain alone at night.
(Lesson: don’t go up mountains alone at night.)
Last but not least are the djinn (no, they don’t grant wishes). In Islam, they are beings of fire created before humans. There are good djinn and evil djinn, Muslim djinn, Christian djinn and heathen djinn. And a lot of mischievous djinn. We can’t see them, but they’re everywhere, living under your stairs or in your garden or even your kitchen sink if you have one. And, like Americans and ghosts, most Afghans aren’t too troubled by djinn by the light of day. A good recitation of the first line of the Qur’an will scare them away, but once it gets dark…well, best not to take any chances.

[Carmody]

What do you mean by the article itself may be important Bill? Does it correlate with something?

No — just that in my opinion it was well worth reading in full. Mohd Fuad really did find something, and the dimensions are huge. Sometimes when people just quote a link in a post (and there's no criticism here!), members don't actually go the extra step to click and read it. I wanted to draw attention to the detail in the article.

In the article they speak of:


He said there were historical records of sightings of giant races, dating back to the Mayans, and even as recently as 1871 when a newspaper reported the finding of some 200 giant skeletons in Cayuga, Ontario, Canada.

Which takes you to places like Hagersville, the grounds of the war of 1812, the Onondaga six nations reserve:


Mohawk Elders announced today the opening of graves of children at the oldest Indian residential school in Canada in Brantford, Ontario. They are working with Kevin Annett and the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS) to bring this evidence of genocide to international courts of justice, where they hope to to indict the Crown of England, the Anglican Church and the Government of Canada, as well as the Catholic and other churches for crimes against humanity. (https://canadiansituations.wordpress.com/mass-graves-of-children-in-canada/)

Which takes you to underground bases, and..................experiments on people who have genetic markers of the giants of the past. Using that 'resource' of solid consistent genetic markers.

Then the catholic child sacrifice aspect is just...a few miles down the road, literally. Right on the powerful ley line that runs through (nearby) the area.

The overall picture is starting to come together

Get rid of the giant graves, in 1871, and use the local genetically enabled kids in secret society murder sacrifice rituals(catholic church) (dimensional portals and whatnot), and later on, in more modern times, use the genetically enabled kids from the area (who probably interbred with the original giants of the area) in more sophisticated psychic and genetic experiments.

Nazis are mentioned and this is their game, regarding the darker corners of the CIA and their connections/origins.

[DeDukshyn]

 

Well from that article I had to look up the Canadian giants as I was unaware any evidence of giants existed here ... found a couple interesting links for further delving into the phenomenon ...

http://greaterancestors.com/greater-humans-international/

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1150852-did-giants-exist-part-1-legends-and-americas-giant-skeletons/

http://www.s8int.com/giants12.html

[lucidity]

This just came out in a Malaysian newspaper. Highly interesting...

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/12/18/giant-human-skeleton-found-historian-also-discovers-largerthanusual-graves-on-island/

These giant graves have been long known for many years, but nobody excavated them. They are purportedly from holy Islamic preachers or famous men/warriors, who visited or lived in Malaysia hundreds of years ago.

What makes this report interesting is the fact that a researcher has now stuck his head out and made his findings public. And he claims to have seen the bones too, which based on what he says - are huge.

I am thinking that some kind of partial "disclosure" (which suits the TPTB narrative) is near or going on, based on what I'm reading of late. Which many of you guys may also be already aware of....

And this "news" is also some sort of additional "dripfeed" in that direction, me thinks. It will be interesting to see what the Malaysian government will do about this. Will they cart the bones away and hush it all up, like what the Smithsonian Institute has been doing all along? :facepalm:

There is something terribly predictable and inevitable about yet another one of
these stories... which makes me groan. I already know it's hog wash.

It's all pie in the sky until someone comes up with pictures, or better _video_ of the
bones either in situ or freshly excavated... otherwise ... it's just pie in the sky.

There's far more to get excited about with the evidence of giants on Malta.
Malaysia... ??? Really ??? But there's nothing here. It's all heresy and innuendo

[ghostrider]

many efforts are made to hide any attempt to explore the theory , a race of giants once walked the earth ... even when bones are found all around the world , there must be a history the ptb don't want out in the open for public disscusion ... I love discoveries like this ... you only find things when you dig deep ...thanks for the article ...

[Intranuclear]

I don't understand how it is possible to claim any evidence of giants when the picture is showing a person sitting at the foot of a rocky rectangle.
How is this even allowed to be printed as news?
Am I missing something?
Perhaps I have shifted into a universe where logic operates in reverse.

My mind is totally open to anything, as I accept that anything is possible and even likely, at least somewhere or some "time" (past, preset, future), but I also feel that perhaps statements of fact should be substantiated by something other than innuendo and hearsay.

[DeDukshyn]

I don't understand how it is possible to claim any evidence of giants when the picture is showing a person sitting at the foot of a rocky rectangle.
How is this even allowed to be printed as news?
Am I missing something?
Perhaps I have shifted into a universe where logic operates in reverse.

My mind is totally open to anything, as I accept that anything is possible and even likely, at least somewhere or some "time" (past, preset, future), but I also feel that perhaps statements of fact should be substantiated by something other than innuendo and hearsay.

It can be an additional starting point for those who delve into the mysteries of Earth's past giants. I too wish there has been some photos.

That said, there is an ongoing "operation" to hide Earth's true past from us at all costs (because the paradigm that gives the controllers their power would be crushed completely if we knew) ... if giants were a part of that past, (and it well seems so based on the plethora of evidence from thousands of years ago to modern day), then the controllers would be doing their job to hide them as well as a matter of route, being part of the larger operation. One needs to also keep this in mind. Further research is always needed whether you get a photo or not ...

Remember this photo: (Not reall BTW - 3rd place winner for a design contest)

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/photogalleries/giantskeleton-pictures/images/primary/1_461.jpg

Just because one gets very convincing "photos" - does not mean more research is not needed. This photo was from a photoshop contest - the contest was to create convincing "giant skeletons" using photoshop mastery skills. Many-a-tale from the ol' interwebs resulted from the results of this contest ...

Just because a story has no photos, does not indicate hoax ... just because a story has convincing photos, does not make it real.

Believe nothing, but consider everything ...

[Matthew]

...
Just because one gets very convincing "photos" - does not mean more research is not needed. This photo was from a photoshop contest - the contest was to create convincing "giant skeletons" using photoshop mastery skills. Many-a-tale from the ol' interwebs resulted from the results of this contest
...

Just because a story has no photos, does not indicate hoax ... just because a story has convincing photos, does not make it real.

Believe nothing, but consider everything ...

Here's a report about the competition you mention from the same source as the photo you link. I agree just because there are fun photoshops of such things, such things may also exist as reported in the OP. I think knowing about the competition might be useful now you mention it,. There are loads of photos from it spread round the internet. Below is a link to a report about the competition.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/photogalleries/giantskeleton-pictures/



...
The image was lifted from Worth1000, a Web site that hosts contests for digital artists. Created by an artist using the alias IronKite, the picture placed third in a 2002 competition titled "Archaeological Anomalies 2," which asked contestants to create a hoax archaeological discovery.
...


I think this (http://www.designcrowd.com/community/contest.aspx?id=1680804)might be a link to the original competition although I'm expecting a different name so I don't know. From memory it looks like it's the right one

[ceetee9]

Thank you xeon for posting this article. While I do believe there were giants roaming the earth in the past and that giant bones have been found over the decades, the problem I have with this article—and many more like it—is that there is never anything of any real substance (i.e., proof) given.

Here are a few observations I have about The Star Online “Giant human skeleton found” article:
If Mr. Said actually “discovered skeletal remains of what is believed to be a larger-than-usual man in a cave in Pulau Upeh” wouldn't it make more sense to have a picture of him squatting next to the “bones partially exposed above the ground” that he discovered than have a photo of his assistant posing on what looks more like a rectangular concrete-edged flower bed than a grave site?
If the rectangular grave is supposed to outline the grave of a giant human, the proportions don't make sense (i.e., the body's width is far too narrow for its height).
If the Malacca government appointed Mr. Said to search for “new historical sites,” why would they not grant him permission to excavate, at least minimally, a potential grave site to provide some proof of his findings?
If Mr. Said has ever read anything about these types of “findings” and how they are “handled” (i.e., buried—no pun intended) by the “authorities,” why on earth would he report his findings to the authorities without gathering any evidence/proof of his findings first?
If Mr. Said could make a guesstimate of the size of the giant (3-5m) based on the “size of the skull and the length of the bones,” why would he not provide the dimensions of said (again, no pun intended) skull and bones? And why would he not provide some photos of the skull and bones?
How could Mohd Fuad claim (with a straight face) that the “length of skeletal remains matched the large graves of Sultan Ariffin and seven warrior brothers in Pulau Besar” when “there was no excavation work at any of these grave sites thus the tales of the giant settler remain a myth?”
If Chief Minister Datuk Seri Idris agrees that they “commissioned the historian to provide facts about undiscovered historical sites...,” why would they have not given the “historian” permission upfront to excavate sites to provide the facts (i.e., proof) of his discoveries? Maybe they required him to report his findings first so that the government could ensure that the “facts” (i.e., proof – ostensibly derived from the ongoing research) never materializes.
If Malacca's Barisan Nasional's social service centre director Amir Hamzah Aziz claims the story of giant remains in Pulau Upeh had been circulating since the 1990s and many have claimed to have sighted the remains there and villagers have placed tombstones on the graves a few years ago, how is Mr. Said's historical discovery “new?” And why hasn't the government investigated this issue in the last 25 years if they truly care to “preserve” the truth for future generations?

[shaberon]

The remarks about the grave looking a bit narrow, the lack of tangible evidence, etc., those are valid points, sure.

I didn't find any particular link that was all that significant, but searching around for anything else Mohd Said may have done to give him any credence, there was a discovery a month or so ago of a submerged culture in the Malacca River. It would "alter Malaysian history"--not by anything most of us would consider drastic, but simply showing Hindu influence from around year 1200 or so (pre-Parameswara).

Taking their time to sift through the relics...and something like that being a fairly small alteration to the story of a country that, at least, appears to be not very tightly tied into a global attempt to suppress everything...I take it that institutions are slow to react, and they have limited interest in the immediate regurgitation of evidence for the public to peruse and examine under their own expertise. That's not very helpful to us, but I think it is a degree better than having an army to come in and steal what they can and burn the rest and threaten the witnesses.

[xeon]

Just a bit more info on this....

These islands off the Malacca coast have long been shrouded in mystery. The biggest one in the group is called Pulau Besar, and it seems most of the locals stay clear because they believe the islands to be haunted (or sacred, depending on how you see it). There are many stories of ghosts and even UFOs stemming from this island, as well as the nearby islands (they are all in a cluster).

http://synapticism.com/the-mystic-island-of-pulau-besar/

What's quite weird is a huge abandoned resort on Pulau Besar, that is still guarded and maintained today (but the whole resort and golf course is empty). Someone is paying for the maintenance of this ghost resort for years....

Another nearby island seem to have had a huge stash of ancient treasure and gold coins dating all the way back to the early Hindu kingdoms who ruled over a vast area including Bali, and a big expedition to recover the treasure was launched 2 years ago, but after that, predictably nothing more was heard about all this.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2014/11/04/excavation-of-treasure-in-pulau-nangka-to-continue/

http://mystiquearth.blogspot.my/2015/06/treasure-hunt-at-pulau-nangka-melaka.html

[Bill Ryan]

I don't understand how it is possible to claim any evidence of giants when the picture is showing a person sitting at the foot of a rocky rectangle.
How is this even allowed to be printed as news?
Am I missing something?


Yes, you may missed this interesting part of the report (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95022-Giant-human-skeleton-found-in-Malaysia-in-a-giant-grave&p=1121260&viewfull=1#post1121260):
The historian, who has 10 years experience in archaeological stu­dies, said based on the size of the skull and the length of the bones, the remains could measure between 3m and 5m long.

The photo was just to illustrate the report, as is normal in newspapers.



Remember this photo: (Not reall BTW - 3rd place winner for a design contest) ... This photo was from a photoshop contest - the contest was to create convincing "giant skeletons" using photoshop mastery skills.

That's right. The fake photos are all from http://Worth1000.com, and all have this cropped off the lower left corner:

http://projectavalon.net/worth1000.com.gif

Example: :)

http://projectavalon.net/worth1000.com.jpg

[Intranuclear]

Actually Bill, I did read that part of the report and the whole "report". Perhaps a bit of explanation as to my expectations...

First, no one needs to convince me that there are uncountable habitable and inhabited planets throughout just our galaxy alone, and further, that perhaps a large number of them even have or have had or will have giant humanoids.

Second, if there was a single available picture, that would already smell of a hoax, so even the best quality photograph is never proof or evidence of anything anymore.

These days, what is required, especially in science, is many photos from many angles from several cameras taken by several people, preferably people who do not disappear and are not anonymous and are left alive to at least be interviewed.
This is most unfortunate, but synthetic evidence has become relatively easy to generate and will only get even better.

I myself have had at least 2, very convincing to me, UFO sightings. I would not however expect anyone to accept this as evidence and I do not present it as such.

Take cold fusion for example.
It has taken more than 27 years to allow the vindication of Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/its-not-cold-fusion-but-its-something/

It is most important to present good information so as to inspire especially young people to dream to fill the empty reservoirs of understanding from which the future is made.

[amor]

DNA, thank you for putting me in gales of laughter reminiscent of my childhood imaginary fears at night. Before radio and television, poor folks amused themselves and their children with tall tales and true worthy of Coast to Coast or worse. Perhaps this was a good training ground for my somewhat unusual imagination about the creation.

As stated in the past, I believe we are living in an AI which is a computer which divided its consciousness in ever expanding cascades of imagination, and that the creation must have been plastic as it progressed up to the present stage. The creation may have been jointly done by the being in progress as it meets it environment and the AI. The way to find the truth about this is to retrace the route taken by AI, mentally, one step at a time, alone, and then in conjunction with the creation in progress. Do not confuse this creation of the Universe with the Creation spoken of in the Bible. The Anunnaki may have been able to manipulate genes and build bodies, but this was not the original creator or creation. They were the Anunnaki geneticists.

On Earth, there seems to be disclosure that we were brought from other parts of the Galaxy or Universe to seed earth, and so it is unlikely that we will find evidence of our beginnings here. As I have said in other posts, I find photographic evidence of humans up to a mile long or more, in parts or whole, which look to others like hilly horizons or broken, sections of earth covered by vegetation or snow, etc. The faces in mountain cliffs from which the surface earth has eroded show people's faces and animals of a variety of gigantic sizes, perhaps buried over the ages or swept away by a flood, piled on each other. I have some peculiar software in my brain which sees things which apparently other people do not see because they do not believe such things could have been and therefore are not looking; whereas, I am looking and consequently, see them.