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Ba-ba-Ra
27th December 2016, 18:06
From Joseph Farrell:


A couple of years ago one of the stories we were watching here was Germany's attempts to repatriate its gold from the New York Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, and the Bank of France, and bring it physically back to the Bundesbank's vaults in Germany. That move, you'll recall, began as a popular movement, rather than within the German government itself. It began first as a request for a full audit of Germany's reserves, reputed to be the second largest in the world after the United States.

At that time, I also pointed out that it was not the first time "something fishy" seemed to be going on with Germany's gold bullion, for I also noted that in his memoirs, former Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht, recounted an episode which occurred during his visit to the USA in 1928. Back then, Schacht visited his old friend and the then Governor of the New York Fed, Benjamin Strong, and asked to see the Reichsbank's gold reserves as his host led him on a tour of the New York Fed's vaults. Moments later, the staff came back to the two central bankers to report that they could not find the Reichsbank's gold reserves. Schacht then records a response that seems incongruous, to this day:

Farrell's Speculations:
Now what's interesting here is that the Bundesbank, according to the Zero Hedge article, appears not to have slowed its repatriation, but rather, to have accelerated it.

And that action raises all sorts of very intriguing high octane speculation hypotheses: could an internal audit of said gold have found more gold-plated tungsten than real gold? Or have found gold of less purity than was supposed to be the case? Or could such an audit have found other indications that have caused the Bundesbank to continue with the repatriation even though that shows the opposite of a "demonstration of confidence," i.e., is the Bundesbank no longer confident of the bona fides of its fellow central banks in Paris and New York? Or, conversely, is it doing so because of the internal meltdown of Deutschebank and all its alleged bad derivatives paper (remember that "fraudulent securities element")? Is this connected to the German government's warning this past year for Germans to prepare for "an emergency"? Of finally, is it doing so because of the weakening of the EU and the euro, against the possibility of having to reinstitute the D-mark?

These may all be possibilities, but for my part, I cannot help but indulge in some really high octane speculation, and think that the real story here is revealed by Schacht's recounting of the "amusing incident" in 1928, a story that he deliberately mentions, and draws attention to by noting that he believes the NY Fed is "good for it," i.e., his remarks imply that he is aware that something is afoot, something untoward, and that he knows what it is. There the remarks stand to this day: they have never been followed up on, nor accounted for. But Schacht himself, let it be noted, found himself after the war in a number of "gold hot spots" such as Indonesia, where, once again, all that buried Japanese loot enters the story. And lest we forget, "gold" of course in some circles means "drugs," and the international trade in them. And a certain major oriental bank has allegedly been involved in such activities... (HSBC Bank: Secret Origins To Laundering The World's Drug Money)

complete article: https://gizadeathstar.com/2016/12/remember-german-gold-repatriation-thing-well-going-faster-planned/

lucidity
29th December 2016, 02:04
I believe it was Max Keiser who first re-lit the fire under this story.
It was within the last 5 years.. It was he who, to my knowledge,
first suggested that Germany's gold has 'vanished'... and that the
Bundesbank should conduct an audit of it's overseas gold holdings.

There's even an episode of the Keiser Report where Max attempts to
put these very questions to the bank.
The bank staff clearly had no clue what answer they should give.

Subsequently, there was an announcement that some gold would be
'drip fed' back to Germany over a period of years.

Which lead to the obvious questions:
Why so little ?
Why so slow ?

And Max implied that the gold isn't there... It's vanished.
So sending the gold back means buying it on the open market...
hence the low volumes and the slow speed.

I distinctly remember that Max suggested that Germany would never see that gold again.
So now i'm left wondering, how much gold has Germany actually received in the last few years ?

Let's assume, just for argument's sake, that Max is correct: The gold has vanished.
So what's happened to the gold ?

Would anyone like to offer their own suggestions about where that gold is now ?

Ba-ba-Ra
29th December 2016, 02:59
I believe it was Max Keiser who first re-lit the fire under this story.
It was within the last 5 years.. It was he who, to my knowledge,
first suggested that Germany's gold has 'vanished'... and that the
Bundesbank should conduct an audit of it's overseas gold holdings.

There's even an episode of the Keiser Report where Max attempts to
put these very questions to the bank.
The bank staff clearly had no clue what answer they should give.

Subsequently, there was an announcement that some gold would be
'drip fed' back to Germany over a period of years.

Which lead to the obvious questions:
Why so little ?
Why so slow ?

And Max implied that the gold isn't there... It's vanished.
So sending the gold back means buying it on the open market...
hence the low volumes and the slow speed.

I distinctly remember that Max suggested that Germany would never see that gold again.
So now i'm left wondering, how much gold has Germany actually received in the last few years ?

Let's assume, just for argument's sake, that Max is correct: The gold has vanished.
So what's happened to the gold ?

Would anyone like to offer their own suggestions about where that gold is now ?


Well, here's one theory that's been out there for a while.

J P Morgan bldg and NY Fed Reserve Bank are across the street from each other. Each has a huge vault 5 stories underground. The implication has been floated around that since they are both at the same level underground, that they meet. http://www.businessinsider.com/jp-morgan-fed-gold-vault-theory-2013-6

Then consider that back in 2013 JP Morgan sold said building to a Chinese firm.

For JPMorgan, which was in talks at the time to settle a number of government investigations, the sale should provide a cash infusion.
The bank is facing a possible settlement related to mortgage-backed securities that could cost as much as $11 billion. JPMorgan (JPM) said Wednesday that it would pay $100 million to the U.S. regulators, conceding "reckless" behavior led to the London Whale trading debacle that generated about $6 billion in losses. http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/18/news/china-jpmorgan-real-estate/

So, if there is access between JPMorgan bld and NY Fed Reserve vault - and a Chinese firm now owns the JPMorgan bldg . . . . .?!?!

There was loose talk of the US unable to make an interest pmt due to China in 2013 because China would no longer accept US $$. So US had to give them the gold. Keep in mind according to Forbes US has to pay 79.5 million dollars a day to China for our loans to them, so this is how US made pmt.

Plausible or just another conspiracy theory?

Foxie Loxie
29th December 2016, 19:52
This conversation made me think of the shipment of gold that "vanished" in South Africa; it seems difficult for us to really know what is going on!! :confused:

CurEus
29th December 2016, 22:39
What happened to the Nazi Gold train rumored to be in Poland buried under a mountain?