Why: 1) 102 members vs 1,584 guests online; 2) 1,115 active vs 10,390 total members this morning at PA?

[JChombre]

Since I joined PA, I have been puzzled by the difference that exists between the number of members vs guests who log on PA everyday. I have also been puzzled by the difference between the number of active vs total PA members.

This morning at 10:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, there were 102 members vs. 1,584 guests online at PA. That's about 16x more guests than members logged at PA.

In addition this morning, there were 1,115 active members out of a total of 10,390 enrolled members. That's about a 10% active membership rate.

I realize that PA is an all-volunteer and probably a non-profit organization so, the marketing rigor and scrutiny that applies to a traditional organization is most certainly not appropriate here.

However, I cannot help asking the following questions:

What prevents so many interested people from joining Project Avalon?

Is there anything that can be done to help them join PA?

To current Avalon members, why did you join Project Avalon? How long did you sit on the fence before joining PA? If you were to leave PA, what would push you to do that?

What can be done to increase the number of active members or member participation at Project Avalon?

Thank you so much.

Many Blessings and Happy New Year 2017 :sun:.

JC



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[The Freedom Train]

I have not been a member for very long. I joined because I wanted to share my story about etheric implanting with the hopes my story might help others who have been through something similar to feel a sense of solidarity and validation in their experiences.

I am guessing there are more guests than posting members because not everybody chooses to chime in and post on the topics, preferring to lurk and read.

As to the activity level, I am not sure.

[Hervé]

102 members vs. 1,584 guests online at PA. That's about 16x more guests than members logged at PA.

In addition this morning, there were 1,115 active members out of a total of 10,390 enrolled members. That's about a 10% active membership rate.Many known and unknown reasons for that...

First, many of the "Guest" visits may be from members who either don't have the time, won't bother or cannot (work's/library's/friend's computer) log-in and just have a glance at what's new.

Second, many remain on lurking mode before joining and, then, still remain in lurking mode till they feel safe enough and confident enough to post something and express their experience or opinion. Confidence may be the biggest obstacle because a lack of it may be due to innumerable reasons like mastering the language and/or its spelling or dyslexia or fear of ridicule or being trolled or facing the limelights... etc...

As for the discrepancy active vs registered members, I can imagine that if one's view is already represented in some posts... then it may not be worth the troubles to log-in and post something?

Then, there are quite a number of members who lost their e-mail address or don't remember their user's name or their password, etc... and of those, it's mostly the ones who truly want to interact who contact us (http://projectavalon.net/FAQs.htm#29) to mention their troubles logging-in.

Then, also, there is some sort of natural evolution of the forum which, like the rest of the world, seems to go through fads or focused interests which slowly fade back into oblivion due to loss of interest... as such, the forum sees "waves" of membership applications due to current focus of the day which then become inactive when the interest drops down to nil.

[shaberon]

It looks meager but those seem to be fairly reasonable statistics.

A *lot* of people simply prefer to browse. We cannot conclude that by reading the various articles that they feel any level of interest in joining. Nothing would really prevent that, except maybe the fact that there isn't an "auto-join"...and if the mods weren't reviewing applications, then it would be like almost any other website.

Sometimes there's nothing to say, and not everyone is going to hop online on a daily basis either. And to many people, the potential for disagreement can be intimidating (or frustrating).

I admire the wide variety of subjects here--if I was that deep into firearms, building solar panels, or hunting fossils, I would probably tend to pursue a site *specific* to that topic.

I believe it would behoove everyone to attempt to organize or lead some kind of group activity, because a lot of stuff has no resemblance to a lively party showing up and sticking around forever. Generally, with things I have done in my life, the ratio of people who show up interested versus how many are dedicated and successful several years down the road, is about 1 in 500.

[sunwings]

I sat on the fence for 3 years dipping in and out to help me with researching different topics.

Maybe I did not feel ready. PA sometimes feels like a series of fast flowing river rapids. Every couple of days a new topic comes up which reels me in. Threads move at rapid pace, I´m sure people find them difficult to follow.

On the other hand if the high number of inactive members is true....that maybe even more interesting.

[Andre]

As for "active" vs "enrolled" members, in my case, years sometimes pass between my being active vs non-active. I come and go and I suspect many others do also. So it all depends on what period of time has to pass on the forum before a member's status is set to inactive, i.e. how long it has been since their last login.

I'm not sure the high number of guests is anything to be concerned about since "guests" may (1) see no reason to join because they are happy to just read what interests them; (2) they are fearful of identifying themselves by joining, i.e. afraid of going on a watch list, or; (3) can't be bothered with another bloody username and password.

[Patient]

All thoughts posted here resonate with me.

One thing that I will add - there are many real intelligent posts made by intelligent people. Many real life experiences brought forward by brave individuals. I for one, do not often have things to add to such posts. So I read and learn - listen!

You can all be proud by how many followers there are that are listening!

[Jackson]

I joined Project Avalon several years ago. I also lurked for a while before I joined.

I still come here every day (sometimes several times a day) to check out the latest post. I tend not to comment lately...but still gain a lot of wisdom and information from members here.

Happy new year all....and be well.

Jackson

[Gillian]

I wanted to join for quite a while, but thought I was not good enough to be part of this group and that I had nothing of any consequence to contribute. After the forum grew, I was better able to decide that I was worthy to be a member, could benefit greatly, made my application, and it was accepted.

I enjoy getting my daily news from this forum, although I haven't been as dedicated over the holidays as I have family visiting, a rare treat as they live all the way down in San Diego. Also, there has been quite a bit of help in satiating my curiosity about or answering certain questions.

[Snoweagle]

When I joined Avalon, I had been following Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot now) as they were committed to research into our past and the prospects of mankinds future. I signed up right away as this is my interest as well. So did many others. This enabled the alternative researchers a source to review and collaborate with discussion regarding the many mysteries of our humanity. Of course, there are these days lots of current events daily racing through the forum which is also representative of the relevant issues that are synonymous with change.

Avalon has a superb library of discussion of virtually every subject known to man. Well worth the review.

If I were to leave PA, what would push me to do that? Irrelevant. This site is less social media, even though life long friendships regularly occur but more of shared commentary. It is about digging for the truth in respect to your interests. There are a lot of super smart people here and others less so though all are treated respectably within the community.

There is nothing to be afraid of here at all. Treat it like a Participation Community Library for best effect.

[Chris411]

Hi,

I am not very active here although I drop by several times per day. Project Avalon is one of my 4-5 preferred websites I browse daily. Sometimes I find many interesting subjects sometimes none at all. English is not my mother tongue but this is not the main reason why I shy away from contributing. One of my New Year's resolution is to be more active here. I am fully aware that if most of the visitors only read and don't contribute, the forum will slowly die off. This should be a major concern for those that treasure this discussion platform in today's strongly biased news environment. Let us all make additional efforts to keep the Project Avalon spirit alive!
Thanks.

Cristian

[norman]

There are so many 'spiders' patrolling the web that many of the guests are likely to be not real people. I'm sure Cliff High isn't the only one using our words to model various things with.

[Carmody]

Becoming a remember here is a fairly rigorous affair as compared to other places..

Other places that are more permissive in granting membership in a simplistic automated fashion.

in those cases, those forums, as far as stable, informed, polite, intelligent and..USEFUL CIVILIZED discourse, are disaster zones.

There is a limit to what the mods can do, even if there were twice as many of them. After a certain level of unbridled 'immigration', you will find the forum being entirely debased and it will go the way all other forums have gone.

Into a trashcan.

The forum cannot be restrictive but neither can it be allowed to be a rampant beast that spirals down to the the lowest common denominator, or have it infiltrated by groups who purport to use it as a vehicle, or attempt to break it's back. And many other scenarios of rotten and parasitical nature.

It has to ride the ragged edge of that scenario. In that scenario, the membership is restricted to a degree. A vehicle, going somewhere, under control and directed ...as opposed to a vehicle that is completely out of control.

If this was a totally unrestricted open forum, I'd guess 90% of you would not be here, and it would look like a cross between GLP (god like productions) and ATS. Where discussion and debate are shut down with evil and virulent behavior and vibes. Forced division, forced black and white arguments, one-upmanship, zero empathy, where the angry and malevolent go to get their jollies.

I most certainly would not be here.

It would spiral down into being a psychotic mosh pit, with a bad vibe and bad energies. Which is how I feel about the other two forums mentioned. Which are merely on line 'fight clubs', troll vehicles, the thing that the internet is, for the most part. We've got millions of those places and nearly none like this.

And we need more like Avalon.

The value and success of this forum is entirely reliant on it being as it is.

[bobme]

I am new here also. It took me a while to decide if I had the time to respond to any post when I post them. And also the feeling I was getting from the forum itself. I am not the worlds fastest thinker, or typest. My perception of the way things are happening has always been different from other people. I am not a schooled person, and I do not trust science very often. I feel I can trust most members here to not judge me because of that. I still read the posts, but do not log in unless I feel to say something. But that is my reason for just viewing. So I am just saying something now.:waving:

[JChombre]

I have not been a member for very long. I joined because I wanted to share my story about etheric implanting with the hopes my story might help others who have been through something similar to feel a sense of solidarity and validation in their experiences.

I am guessing there are more guests than posting members because not everybody chooses to chime in and post on the topics, preferring to lurk and read.

As to the activity level, I am not sure.

Thank you Freedom!

You joined for a very specific purpose so I wonder if you have been able to share your story about etheric implants. I was not around 3/4th of the time in 2016 so I might have missed it.

Many blessings and happy new year. :beer:

JC

[JChombre]

102 members vs. 1,584 guests online at PA. That's about 16x more guests than members logged at PA.

In addition this morning, there were 1,115 active members out of a total of 10,390 enrolled members. That's about a 10% active membership rate.Many known and unknown reasons for that...

First, many of the "Guest" visits may be from members who either don't have the time, won't bother or cannot (work's/library's/friend's computer) log-in and just have a glance at what's new.

Second, many remain on lurking mode before joining and, then, still remain in lurking mode till they feel safe enough and confident enough to post something and express their experience or opinion. Confidence may be the biggest obstacle because a lack of it may be due to innumerable reasons like mastering the language and/or its spelling or dyslexia or fear of ridicule or being trolled or facing the limelights... etc...

As for the discrepancy active vs registered members, I can imagine that if one's view is already represented in some posts... then it may not be worth the troubles to log-in and post something?

Then, there are quite a number of members who lost their e-mail address or don't remember their user's name or their password, etc... and of those, it's mostly the ones who truly want to interact who contact us (http://projectavalon.net/FAQs.htm#29) to mention their troubles logging-in.

Then, also, there is some sort of natural evolution of the forum which, like the rest of the world, seems to go through fads or focused interests which slowly fade back into oblivion due to loss of interest... as such, the forum sees "waves" of membership applications due to current focus of the day which then become inactive when the interest drops down to nil.


Herve thank you for the detailed explanations. They are very helpful because among other things, they provide some information on who PA online guests are really. Your explanations also help me because I really don't have a lot of forum experience. PA is the only forum that I belong to and I was absent more than half of the time since 2014 when I joined PA.

Very interesting but I can see why confidence (or lack of) can be a big factor when it comes to joining and participating in Avalon. Of course, language and technical challenges definitely don't help in that...

However, I am curious about the membership turnover rate. Are there maybe 40% new members every 2 to 3 years? If the turnover rate is that high then those who have been here since 2010 or so keep seeing the same questions over and over?

Thank you again.

Many blessings and happy new year :beer:

JC

[JChombre]

It looks meager but those seem to be fairly reasonable statistics.

A *lot* of people simply prefer to browse. We cannot conclude that by reading the various articles that they feel any level of interest in joining. Nothing would really prevent that, except maybe the fact that there isn't an "auto-join"...and if the mods weren't reviewing applications, then it would be like almost any other website.

Sometimes there's nothing to say, and not everyone is going to hop online on a daily basis either. And to many people, the potential for disagreement can be intimidating (or frustrating).

I admire the wide variety of subjects here--if I was that deep into firearms, building solar panels, or hunting fossils, I would probably tend to pursue a site *specific* to that topic.

I believe it would behoove everyone to attempt to organize or lead some kind of group activity, because a lot of stuff has no resemblance to a lively party showing up and sticking around forever. Generally, with things I have done in my life, the ratio of people who show up interested versus how many are dedicated and successful several years down the road, is about 1 in 500.


Hello Shaberon,

Thank you for posting here. What really got my attention is the difference between the numbers of online members (80-120) vs guests (900-1500). However, Herve explained that the number of guests includes some members who, for a variety of reasons, choose not to log in. So that gives a completely different meaning to the ratios of members over guests. And what you are saying is fairly consistent with what Herve's and other members have said.

Again, thank you so much.

Happy New Year and many blessings to you. :bigsmile:

JC

[guyres]

Hi all,
I fully understand English when read or ear it, but my mother language is French, it's difficult to be sure that the meaning I want to express is well translate. So most of time just read and watch.
Thank you all for PA.

[shaberon]

Yes, I might browse a bit prior to logging in...kind of like I might log in and physically leave the computer for six hours.

Aussi, quelques personnes comprennent le francais...si on ecrit en cette langue, quelq'un peut traduir en anglais. Je ne la connais pas comme un natif, mais tu peut faire marcher le crain!

[guyres]

Aussi, quelques personnes comprennent le francais...si on ecrit en cette langue, quelq'un peut traduir en anglais. Je ne la connais pas comme un natif, mais tu peut faire marcher le crain!

Words have several meaning and I don't want to say someone "that's not what I meant !!!", this will lead to a philosophical thread. And my opinion is no so important, there is quite always somebody thinking more or less like me.

Thank you Shaberon but it is my duty to translate both if good or approximate.

[JChombre]

I sat on the fence for 3 years dipping in and out to help me with researching different topics.

Maybe I did not feel ready. PA sometimes feels like a series of fast flowing river rapids. Every couple of days a new topic comes up which reels me in. Threads move at rapid pace, I´m sure people find them difficult to follow.

On the other hand if the high number of inactive members is true....that maybe even more interesting.

Dear Sunwings,

Thank you for joining and posting here. Like you I sat on the fence for a couple of years, may be 4 or 5+ years. I don't remember exactly. I was extremely busy at work and could not free my time to do anything else...

You are explaining that it took you awhile to join, and you say "maybe I did not feel ready." Very interesting because I heard that from other members, Herve is right on that.

Thank you again.

Many blessings and Happy New Year 2017 :o.

JC





















posting here,

[poetbil]

it is the F e a r Planet ,isn't it
So it is very understandable ,
people have to survive their fear about all these Services which c o l l e c t data about everything
I hope in God ,He will put all this data ,in collector's fat ......

[Enola]

I didn't really think about it, since I kind of fit in here. I don't know, some things you can just relate to more, and it's the kind of thing that I'm able to contribute something to. I mostly just try not to disgrace Avalon. :)

[greybeard]

Sometimes people join Avalon to post or share on a specific subject.
They might not feel the need to enter into another "section" of Avalon.
The thread Im particularly interested in gets 3000 guests visiting most weeks, few members go there.
Thats the way it is.

Avalon is like an interactive magazine--many interesting posts one can read, engage with.

Its a good place to be and its informative for many guests who dont feel a need to join.

Chris

[Lifebringer]

I check in with those I consider my human soul family. I pray when they ask for prayers and offer comfort on the rocky road of changes that must come. Love brings me here.

[happyuk]

What prevents so many interested people from joining Project Avalon?

Is there anything that can be done to help them join PA?

To current Avalon members, why did you join Project Avalon? How long did you sit on the fence before joining PA? If you were to leave PA, what would push you to do that?


I would have thought there would be nothing stopping any sincere person from joining Project Avalon if she or he wants, either to actively contribute to the discussions, or peruse the various topics.

I would also think that if PA were to just carry on doing what it is already doing (good articles, disseminations and discussions) the membership will increase anyway.

One of the things I like about PA is that anybody is free to comment on a topic that is interesting to them without fear of ridicule, trolling and the like. Most contributors seem like minded in this respect. You can be quite outlandish in your opinions and thoughts, and free to disagree. People can and will frequently question your assertions, but by using logic and facts rather than resorting ad hominems and the like. There have been one or two exceptions but these are so rare compared to other forums I have had the misfortune to comment in.

[Basho]

I'm like you JCHombre, lurked for years before joining. My life was in a state of chaos & deconstruction during those years so I didn't feel ready to be part of the community, yet. That is one of the best things about Avalon, the admissions process, which keep a lot of viewers from joining. But also keeps Avalon drama & troll free.

The main reason I finally joined ; so I can click on the thanks button & say thank you to the many members that have enriched my life with their posts through the years :D

[latina]

This forum is awesome! I have learned a lot about everything and I say that considering that I had a lot of prior knowledge before coming here. I have notice a change through the years. Some Members have quit when they consider this forum is of no service for them anymore but even now we have a lot of people with a comprehensive understanding of everything. However I think that a "marketing campaign" motivating quests to enroll would be great. In my case the barrier language prevents me to post more often. been here in the forum since March 2011 and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.

[Domp4547]

I recently joined to engage with the community and to be able to share ideas. I have been enlightened by Bill Ryan for years now and wanted to follow a good source for cutting edge information. This forum is an incredible source of information and a large majority I believe still are too timid or shy to be able to engage with a community like ours. It's a whole new world, a new perspective, a new way to view reality for some people and it takes some time to process it. The truth is a hard pill to swallow for some and I believe that prevents some new potential members.
I am very grateful and appreciative to become a member of this forum and look forward to many different interactions,engagements,discoveries, and mostly importantly happiness!
Life is an incredible ride and I look forward to enjoying it with all of you! Thanks:bigsmile:

[shaberon]

...and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.

Is that something actually denied to some members?





From Bill: Not at all! Please see Paul's post #34 below (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95222-Why-1--102-members-vs-1-584-guests-online-2--1-115-active-vs-10-390-total-members-this-morning-at-PA&p=1124432&viewfull=1#post1124432).

[shaberon]

Words have several meaning and I don't want to say someone "that's not what I meant !!!", this will lead to a philosophical thread. And my opinion is no so important, there is quite always somebody thinking more or less like me.

Thank you Shaberon but it is my duty to translate both if good or approximate.

We have to do that with our English sometimes, to tell someone it's not what was meant. It is a very difficult language, I would probably be terrified if it was new and strange to me.

[WhiteFeather]

Many many guests are lead to this forum through internet searches, Re: Searching ET contact etc etc in a search engine as I have. Its amazing how you are lead to this forum from such searches. Many categories are here in this forum. As far as the turnout goes with respect to members, i cannot answer that good question OP.

[JChombre]

This forum is awesome! I have learned a lot about everything.

In my case the barrier language prevents me to post more often.

been here in the forum since March 2011 and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.


Dear Latina,

Thank you for your feedback here. I remember you, you are an hypnotherapist.

I agree with you, Avalon is a very good forum. Carmody mentioned GLP (God Like Production) and ATS (Above Top Secret), so I checked these two fora and run away from them. I am just not into conspiracy theory and I believe in treating people with dignity and respect.

As far as language barriers are concerned, I understand how you feel because I get confused at time between English (that has taken over now as my primary language) and the other languages that I speak. However, I think that your English is excellent and it should not be a major problem.

Also, you don't need someone permission to start a new thread. Please click on the link given below then click on #15. That will take you to a step-by-step direction compiled by Runningdeer on how to start a new thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66104-How-to-Tips-with-Visuals-for-Links-Quotes-Images-etc..


Thank you again.

Many blessings and New Year to you. :bigsmile:

JC

[ThePythonicCow]

... and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.
I am sure you have permission to post a new thread. The thread How to post or start a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14795-How-to-post-or-start-a-new-thread) explains how to do this.

[Mike]

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[JChombre]

To current Avalon members, why did you join Project Avalon? How long did you sit on the fence before joining PA? If you were to leave PA, what would push you to do that?

We are animals of habits, so I had some concern about the low member participation at PA.

However, the feedback from several members showed me that the number of PA members logged at Avalon website and labelled as "members", is lower than all the Project Avalon members involved with the site at that time. It is this way because several PA members go to Project Avalon website but for a variety of reasons, do not log in. Therefore, they are not counted as "members" but as "guests".

From the feedback provided by Avalon members, I have concluded that my concern about low member participation at PA is no longer justified. I would like to thank everyone at Avalon that helped me realize that. You successfully answered my questions and I learned a lot, and I thank you for that.

Now, I am an Avalon member so I might as well answer why I joined Project Avalon.

I followed Bill and Kerry work at the old Project Camelot. I liked their work on finding the real history of our planet. I also liked the spiritual and mystical aspect of their work. In fact, I can say that I am very much interested in spirituality and life mysteries; and I abhor anything or anyone that advocates division, fear or hate.

I am not interested in conspiracy theory, and I am suspicious of most MSM outlets and of alternative media. Instead, I believe in Oneness.

I sat on the fence for 4 to maybe 5+ years. I was very busy at work and had very little time left for anything else. Ultimately I joined Avalon and have learned a lot here.

Thank you so much and many blessings. :Angel:

JC

[Chris411]

...and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.

Is that something actually denied to some members?

This is new to me too. How do we "qualify" to be able to start new threads? Mods...? Thanks.

[Hervé]

...and even now I don't have permission to post a new thread.

Is that something actually denied to some members?

This is new to me too. How do we "qualify" to be able to start new threads? Mods...? Thanks.

As soon as a member's user's name turns purple/fushia upon replying in the "Welcome" thread, then said member can start posting, whether that be post or thread.

As for the "How-to" ... read the answers to that question in this thread...

Check the FAQ (upper right corner of the forum window): Where (and how) should I start a new thread? (http://projectavalon.net/FAQs.htm#1)
Check the "Forum Technical Q&A (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?90-Forum-Technical-Q-A) "to look if similar questions have already been answered.

Cheers!

[betoobig]

After many years of seeking info and following Project camelot interviews, suddenly, i found the fórum...no doubt, i jumped in the first day i found it... i feel not alone knowing that more souls like me are around, careing and discussing politely, awesome...hope this could extent to the whole world, we would live in heaven. Thanks JC for the thread and thanks to everyone involved from Bill to all the guests.

[Matthew]

I really liked a post and couldn't click thanks till I joined. The application process was a small inconvenience towards my goal of clicking thanks. It's lovely to be here. Reasons why I don't post more: ...my own opinion is already said or I've learned something or sometimes because I just don't understand the subject. I'm always learning new things or re-learning old things. I have a big stupid enough mouth to post sometimes but typically, and I mean this in a good way, I don't have anything useful to contribute.

:couch2:

[Akasha]

Avalon's a multi-layered endless book being constantly extended in a multitude of different directions at any given time. That only a relatively small proportion are authoring it is most likely consistent with the ratio of author to reader in any given field.

BTW, Happy New Year, Everyone!

[BMJ]

The thing we all seem to have in common has been that we have been drawn to Avalon community because the questions we have where not satisfied by mainstream means.

Project Avalon provides a safe place to learn and grow. Avalon for me has provided a place for the people of all backgrounds to provide there point of view, no matter how controversial, on equal footing in search for truth, knowledge and enlightenment.

I can personally say that my growth as a result of Project Avalon has impacted my life to such a very positive degree that my mindset has changed considerably, so much so that the person I was 6 years ago is very different to the person I am today. One indication of this change is the fact that I was before working as an Accountant now I am a full time Carer and really love my new role.

Thank you to "everyone" for all your contributions, and especially for Bill and Kerry for starting me down this road with Project Camelot.

[Bill Ryan]

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Many thanks for this thread, and to everyone for their perceptive comments and heartfelt appreciation. :heart:

I'd meant to reply earlier, but have just — genuinely! — been too busy. (Spot the very nice irony... :bigsmile: )

We've always known that there are 12-15x as many guests as logged-in members during any average day. I regularly get personal emails from people I've never heard of before, who are glowing with thanks for the forum and everything we do. Many say they've been following the forum for years, some checking in almost every day. Sometimes, and we always value this, they tell us who they are.

But, it's quality not quantity, all the way. I realized a long time ago that if someone needs to connect here with the community, for any personal reason, then that just happens.

It's all an organic process: the right people connect as they should, with us as a whole, and also individually with one another. We do that in our regular lives, too, whether we're aware of it or not, and so Avalon is just one more meeting place. But a very highly concentrated one, as it were.

The chances of meeting kindred spirits here are very high. None of that is orchestrated by us: we provide a platform... and then it all just happens. :star:

[Ascension]

I suspect a fair amount of the "guests" are members, like me. I do not log in to browse, only to post. So I show up as a guest multiple times a day.

[mgray]

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[/I]It's all an organic process: the right people connect as they should, with us as a whole, and also individually with one another. We do that in our regular lives, too, whether we're aware of it or not, and so Avalon is just one more meeting place. But a very highly concentrated one, as it were.

The chances of meeting kindred spirits here are very high. None of that is orchestrated by us: we provide a platform... and then it all just happens. :star:

If I hear you right Bill, then you're saying: if you build it, they will come. Lol

[JChombre]

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We've always known that there are 12-15x as many guests as logged-in members during any average day. I regularly get personal emails from people I've never heard of before, who are glowing with thanks for the forum and everything we do.

Bill, thank you so much for the feedback. Live and learn! And learn I did.

It was a number thing! I just could not figure out why there are so many more guests than members. This ratio just doesn't fit a traditional marketing rate and that threw me off completely. However, from the feedback that I got from everyone, it makes sense.

Thank you again and many blessings.

JC

[Bill Ryan]

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We've always known that there are 12-15x as many guests as logged-in members during any average day. I regularly get personal emails from people I've never heard of before, who are glowing with thanks for the forum and everything we do.

Bill, thank you so much for the feedback. Live and learn! And learn I did.

It was a number thing! I just could not figure out why there are so many more guests than members. This ratio just doesn't fit a traditional marketing rate and that threw me off completely. However, from the feedback that I got from everyone, it makes sense.

Thank you again and many blessings.

JC

As a wonderful example, I got this message a few minutes ago, from someone — a longstanding non-member — who had most kindly made a donation in response to my post here:


A reminder: please don't forget to donate to the Forum (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15584-A-reminder-please-don-t-forget-to-donate-to-the-Forum&p=1126087&viewfull=1#post1126087)

He wrote:



Love and MUCH appreciation, Bill. I visit Avalon several times each day and consider it by far the most valuable time I spend on line. Mahalo nui loa.

:star:

[bbj3n546pt]

Discovered Bill Ryan at the Project Serpo web site, followed him with Kerry Cassidy and then to Project Avalon.

I'm and architect and an engineer so i do my best to make my posts based on hard data and/or scientific basis which I have discovered have not been well received. So most of the time now I'm a visitor.

[Bill Ryan]

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I received this e-mail, half an hour ago, from a non-member who lives in France: name given but of course redacted here. It absolutely made my day. :)






Hi Bill,

It is the first time I write you, in resonance with one thread in the Avalon forum. I one of those who are present since some years, six or seven, without manifesting.

So, out of gratitude I can share, and show a face.

I find some of the best expertise, treasure of information, and support, and like your gentleman's attitude and commitment. Reading is an effort since some years for me, except for moments of intense search, so I prefer have a quick gaze on some subjects, for the atmosphere, and to find a sense of being part of a whole.

I had find some very valuable doors, some that I have opened, following a link that lead me to huge breakthrough. Thank you all for maintaining this platform.

I express more through art or direct testimony than conventional conversation, living a very reclusive life, so I am not accustomed to talk about me. I may miss something by not sharing, what can I share would interest some people surely, but the issue of talking is still a big issue for me. Still bearing a trauma about "can't be heard", deceptive relations, long term solitude, huge breakthrough and crisis, and a severe look about "talking of me", so, I vanish in Silence, where I feel safe, and Absolutely alone.

Maybe we can explode that resistance to manifesting something.

:star:

[RunningDeer]

:wave:

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/welcome-to-Avalon_zpsdipekjjr.JPG

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I received this e-mail, half an hour ago, from a non-member who lives in France: name given but of course redacted here. It absolutely made my day. :)






Hi Bill,

It is the first time I write you, in resonance with one thread in the Avalon forum. I one of those who are present since some years, six or seven, without manifesting.

So, out of gratitude I can share, and show a face.

I find some of the best expertise, treasure of information, and support, and like your gentleman's attitude and commitment. Reading is an effort since some years for me, except for moments of intense search, so I prefer have a quick gaze on some subjects, for the atmosphere, and to find a sense of being part of a whole.

I had find some very valuable doors, some that I have opened, following a link that lead me to huge breakthrough. Thank you all for maintaining this platform.

I express more through art or direct testimony than conventional conversation, living a very reclusive life, so I am not accustomed to talk about me. I may miss something by not sharing, what can I share would interest some people surely, but the issue of talking is still a big issue for me. Still bearing a trauma about "can't be heard", deceptive relations, long term solitude, huge breakthrough and crisis, and a severe look about "talking of me", so, I vanish in Silence, where I feel safe, and Absolutely alone.

Maybe we can explode that resistance to manifesting something.

:star:

[Sierra]

Dear Sir,

Your letter to Bill gave me joy in a time where I greatly needed it. I thank you Sir, for the courage it took to speak. Without gratitude, I would not be alive.

With great respect, Regards, Sierra,


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I received this e-mail, half an hour ago, from a non-member who lives in France: name given but of course redacted here. It absolutely made my day. :)






Hi Bill,

It is the first time I write you, in resonance with one thread in the Avalon forum. I one of those who are present since some years, six or seven, without manifesting.

So, out of gratitude I can share, and show a face.

I find some of the best expertise, treasure of information, and support, and like your gentleman's attitude and commitment. Reading is an effort since some years for me, except for moments of intense search, so I prefer have a quick gaze on some subjects, for the atmosphere, and to find a sense of being part of a whole.

I had find some very valuable doors, some that I have opened, following a link that lead me to huge breakthrough. Thank you all for maintaining this platform.

I express more through art or direct testimony than conventional conversation, living a very reclusive life, so I am not accustomed to talk about me. I may miss something by not sharing, what can I share would interest some people surely, but the issue of talking is still a big issue for me. Still bearing a trauma about "can't be heard", deceptive relations, long term solitude, huge breakthrough and crisis, and a severe look about "talking of me", so, I vanish in Silence, where I feel safe, and Absolutely alone.

Maybe we can explode that resistance to manifesting something.

:star:

[Innocent Warrior]

That letter is beautiful and so kind. I wish we could see his art.

[Charles Harris]

That letter is beautiful and so kind. I wish we could see his art.
I would second that. Maybe Bill could relay a message for us?

[Hervé]

Un grand merci à toi également, artiste inconnu, car tu nous as montré que toutes ces heures passées à discuter "l'impossible" n'ont pas été peines perdues...

La coquille est ébréchée... continue!

[BMJ]

Un grand merci à toi également, artiste inconnu, car tu nous as montré que toutes ces heures passées à discuter "l'impossible" n'ont pas été peines perdues...

La coquille est ébréchée... continue!

Translation:

A big thank you to you too, unknown artist, because you showed us that all these hours spent discussing "the impossible" were not sorrow lost ...

The shell is chipped ... continues!

[BMJ]

I am stating the obvious. These beautiful emails posted by Bill highlight how important it is that whilst we express ourselves we need to be very mindful of what we say because of how it may impact both members and guests.

[Bill Ryan]

That letter is beautiful and so kind. I wish we could see his art.

Here's a video he has made: :star:


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4zcfry_saundari-ou-les-mysteres-du-trait_creation
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4zcfry_saundari-ou-les-mysteres-du-trait_creation

[araucaria]

What we are seeing right now is the next stage of universal literacy: not just the ability to read (very little) and write one’s own words (less) but the ability to read a great deal and express one’s own thoughts much better although still lagging behind. This is the individual process of learning to think and the collective process of circulating ideas. But people generally have not been idle all this time: what they haven’t been thinking they have been feeling. The issue today is integrating the ancient feeling process into the relatively new thinking process.

The Internet and social media are like the Berlin Wall in the first few minutes or hours of people being allowed through. It became apparent very quickly that the Wall had already been consigned to the history books before the concrete smashing started. We are on the other side of the Wall; what Wall? If we are on the other side, then by definition there is no Wall. That realization and the destruction itself was one big flurry of excitement. But the next step – What do we do know? [now] – has been proving much longer and harder. The Internet is not going away, if only because the government would immediately stop collecting taxes etc. and grind to a halt.

See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89523-So-Why-hasn-t-Planet-Earth-been-invaded&p=1059181&viewfull=1#post1059181). The Internet is a noisy place just now because the extraverts are still celebrating that realization. But the revolution per se is actually all about introversion: how do we get from centuries of mass introversion to a collective mentality more conducive to expressing our full potential? Which is why any signs of slackening introversion such as we are witnessing here are a cause for rejoicing, because that is precisely how we can tap into that wealth of feeling that has been built up, which was the problem and is now the solution – once we’ve cleared away all the useless concrete.

[pyrangello]

They say you can pick your friends but not your family. Here is just the total opposite as here we all chose to be here in the Avalon Family , a body of energies from all around the world coming together to express thoughts and energy of one's self to the rest of the family looking for validation or counterpoints of the opposite expressing opinions that represent another direction,all coming together for the purpose of teaching each other, seeking the real truth's,and occasionally giving congrads or b-day wishes just like any other family would do. Then there is the compassionate side of asking for prayers of energy for someone who may be sick and just look at all who jump on that train to help. It's a very incredible concept that was given birth here with lots of incredible people from around the world who most have never met ,at least in this lifetime. And especially now with this day and age of junk news out there, whenever something happens big in the world I jump on the forum here to find out whats really going on before I believe that tasteless dirty laundry of garbage being presented( I should be more sensitive shouldn't I) .

What really makes this forum special here is no matter what the question, inquiry, or comment- You will not be met with rolling eyes, a heavy sigh, or that obvious look like your as crazy a clown popping his own balloons at 40,000 ft........................................ Back in the day when there was only Camelot and as i learned from the videos and interviews that Bill and Kerry did, I wanted to just shout out what I had learned only to be met with the clown look. So back in my incubator test tube I went until being here. If your here reading anything from Avalon, guest or member. You are here for a reason, you are here to jump past the matrix, you are much more aware than you think. Its kind of like you know there is more to this than just getting up every morning and going to bed every night. This here at the Avalon Family institute of Progression is one of many steps to your own development outward and mostly discover what you possess inward. Here is where there is no clown at 40,000 ft. Here is like an ongoing family reunion at a small pub where when you have the time drop in a say hi and see whats going on, join a conversation, or if you need to find an answer just ask .:) Its that comfortable here. And if you get to outrageous we have the Avalon Bouncers of the pub. Just kidding, all the mods are definitely needed, believe me.

Many thanks to all the Mods and Bill , takes so much behind the scenes work that most will never know to keep this forum running. And to all the non-members who just read,that was me long, long, ago .And hanging out in the back seat of this moving caravan isn't a bad thing either because just being here makes you that much more awake than the masses!

[JChombre]

I stop coming to this thread on Jan 9, I think. I thought that it had run out of gas. So today, I sort of stumbled in here and was surprised to see that more people had posted to the thread. I would like to say thank you for that.

Best regards and blessings to all:waving:

JC

[RunningDeer]

I stop coming to this thread on Jan 9, I think. I thought that it had run out of gas. So today, I sort of stumbled in here and was surprised to see that more people had posted to the thread. I would like to say thank you for that.

Best regards and blessings to all:waving:

JC
FYI: from instructional post #22 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66104-How-to-Tips-with-Visuals-for-Links-Quotes-Images-etc.&p=847929&viewfull=1#post847929) - whenever you post or create a thread, it’ll automatically come up in your news feed. You can also subscribe to threads.

Below explains:

how to subscribe
how to check the latest posts from those threads


How to subscribe in 2 steps:

Click on the drop down menu found at the top right called, “Thread Tools”. Then click “Subscribe to this Thread”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/thread_subscribe_zpsff3da898.jpg

Then click “Add Subscription”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/add_subscription_zpse67d2a71.jpg



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How to check for the latest in your ‘news feed’ in 2 steps:

Click on, “Settings” found at the top right.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/settings_zps812b043b.jpg

Here’s a sample of what comes up, “Message Board: Avalonians Request Our Help”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/sample_sites_zps4d35b53a.jpg


Now, if anyone has posted since the last time you checked the site, it’ll register in your “news feed”.


NOTE: to find previously subscribed threads, click 'view all' (to the right).


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/view-all_zpskrtyxh8c.jpg

[JChombre]

I stop coming to this thread on Jan 9, I think. I thought that it had run out of gas. So today, I sort of stumbled in here and was surprised to see that more people had posted to the thread. I would like to say thank you for that.

Best regards and blessings to all:waving:

JC
FYI: from instructional post #22 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66104-How-to-Tips-with-Visuals-for-Links-Quotes-Images-etc.&p=847929&viewfull=1#post847929) - whenever you post or create a thread, it’ll automatically come up in your news feed. You can also subscribe to threads.

Below explains:

how to subscribe
how to check the latest posts from those threads


How to subscribe in 2 steps:

Click on the drop down menu found at the top right called, “Thread Tools”. Then click “Subscribe to this Thread”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/thread_subscribe_zpsff3da898.jpg

Then click “Add Subscription”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/add_subscription_zpse67d2a71.jpg



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How to check for the latest in your ‘news feed’ in 2 steps:

Click on, “Settings” found at the top right.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/settings_zps812b043b.jpg

Here’s a sample of what comes up, “Message Board: Avalonians Request Our Help”.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/sample_sites_zps4d35b53a.jpg


Now, if anyone has posted since the last time you checked the site, it’ll register in your “news feed”.


NOTE: to find previously subscribed threads, click 'view all' (to the right).


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Computer_Tips/view-all_zpskrtyxh8c.jpg

Dear Runningdeer, thank you so much for reading my mind and showing me how to keep track of the activity in threads that I am interested in. I have been thinking about what to do since yesterday, and I just found your information about 20 min ago. This is very helpful and I am grateful for your help because these days, my brain is not what it used to be...

Sincere regards and many blessings to you. :highfive:

JC