Free Energy In Unit The Size Of Coffee Cup On CNN

[Wizard Of Ozark]

I don't think anyone has posted about this yet (I did a search but if it's a repeat moderators please do whatever you do with those :bigsmile:)

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[Ashy67]

Wow!!! This is amazing. Hopefully it will roll out and we can leave fossil fuels behind :sun:

[Bob]

http://coldfusion3.com/blog/cnn-covers-cold-fusion-device


The video of the SunCell shown on CNN Newsroom on New Year’s Day looks a lot like the pictures of LENR devices. It is similar to the Andrea Rossi’s hot ecat and the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project’s glowstick units, shown online. The SunCell can supposedly keep a “coffee-cup sized version of the sun burning continuously” that sounds like fusion to me.

Brilliant Light’s CEO Randell Mills claims the SunCell converts hydrogen atoms from water molecules to a lower energy form. That also sounds like fusion to me. He claims that this creates dark matter through something called a hydrino.

“If Mills is right Quantum Mechanics is wrong,” a CNN host whom I could not identify rightly noted. Despite that Mills claims he has attracted tens of millions of dollars in investment and is ready to conduct field testing on the SunCell this year. If the SunCell works he plans to start marketing the device next year.

The SunCell will supposedly generate electricity with photovoltaic cells like those used in solar panels. That makes more sense to me, I think a steam or Stirling (hot air) engine would be more practical. He claims it will be able to replace the utility grid.

[WhiteLove]

I don't think anyone has posted about this yet (I did a search but if it's a repeat moderators please do whatever you do with those :bigsmile:)

siHCRp7TpoU

Very promising, this is similar to a theory that I am building which suggests that you reach a state of 0 mass when the electrons are accelerated into the nucleus of the atom, but that is not yet concluded to be the case. The above invention makes me think of E = M * c^2 as e = c^2 / M (this is Joule / kg^2 or energy per total mass), where c the speed of light is going from a stable constant state, to an accelerated state of increase and where the energy, the mass and the speed of light span across two densities, we exist in one of them. Put in different terms - the shift of energy from one dimension into another (= dimensional shift), hence no violation against the law of conservation of energy. :waving:

Is this the error that Lockheed discovered in Einstein's equations...

[Sequoia]

Hydrinos and dark matter wow…:sun:

[Bob]

Let's look at the name Dr. Randell Mills and see what is listed for new revolutionary energy - Notice in 2008 the company is called BLACK LIGHT POWER, not Brilliant Light Power

BlackLight's physics-defying promise: Cheap power from water

2008-07-02, CNN Money
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/01/smallbusiness/blacklight.fsb/index.htm

Imagine being able to convert water into a boundless source of cheap energy. That's what BlackLight Power, a 25-employee firm in Cranbury, N.J., says it can do.

The only problem: Most scientists say that company's technology violates the basic laws of physics. Such skepticism doesn't daunt Dr. Randell Mills, a Harvard-trained physician and founder of BlackLight, who recently claimed that he has created a working fuel cell using the world's most pervasive element: the hydrogen found in water.

Mills says he has a market-ready product: a fuel cell that produces a chemical reaction to alter hydrogen atoms. The fuel cell releases heat that turns water into steam, which drives electric turbines.

The working models in his lab generate 50 kilowatts of electricity - enough to power six or seven houses.

But these, Mills says, can be scaled [up] to drive a large, electric power plant. The inventor claims this electricity will cost less than 2 cents per kilowatt-hour, which compares to a national average of 8.9 cents. Mills developed the patented cocktail that enables the reaction - a solid fuel made of hydrogen and a sodium hydride catalyst - only a year ago.

(He recently posted instructions on the company's Web site, blacklightpower.com).

Now that the device is ready for commercialization, he says, BlackLight is negotiating with several utilities and architecture and engineering firms.

The business, Mills says, has attracted $60 million in funding from wealthy individuals, investment firms ... and it is no longer seeking money. BlackLight's board of directors reads like a Who's Who of finance and energy leaders.

------------ http://www.wanttoknow.info/newenergyinventionsnewsarticles-0-10000

So what are we seeing here??

Black Light Power dot com redirects to : http://brilliantlightpower.com/

The THEORY PAGE is listed HERE: http://brilliantlightpower.com/theory-overview/


In the atom, electrons are constantly accelerating around the proton in an atomic orbit. Yet, classical physics requires that accelerating charges radiate energy, which would cause the electron to spiral into the nucleus in a fraction of a second. This seminal problem of the stability of the atom was one of the key obstacles physicists faced early in the 20th century, and their inability to solve it led to the construction of quantum theory.

Mills solved the structure of the electron using classical physical laws, such that electron orbits were stable to radiation. This allowed Mills to construct a new theory of atoms and molecules that was based entirely on classical physics. And unlike other attempts in the 20th century, the result was not merely a “hidden-variables” reinterpretation of the quantum formalism, but a ground-up reconstruction of atomic theory.

This new model of the atom predicted the theoretical existence of the hydrino, or energy states of the hydrogen atom that exist below the -13.6 eV energy state of atomic hydrogen that is the basis of Brilliant Light Power’s power source.

[Bob]

Here is DR. RANDELL L. MILLS's SUNCELL

http://brilliantlightpower.com/suncell/


The SunCell® comprises six fundamental low-maintenance commercially available systems, some having no moving parts and capable of operating for a decade or more:

(i) a start-up inductively coupled heater to first melt silver;
(ii) a gas injector to inject hydrogen derived from water and an injection system comprising an electromagnetic pump to inject molten silver and a very stable solid source of oxygen that reacts with the hydrogen to form the hydrogen to hydrino catalyst;
(iii) an ignition system to produce a low-voltage, high current flow across a pair of electrodes into which the molten metal and fuel are injected to form a brilliant light-emitting plasma;
(iv) a blackbody radiator heated to incandescent temperature by the plasma;
(v) a light to electricity converter comprising so-called concentrator photovoltaic cells that receive light from the blackbody radiator and operate at light intensity of over one thousand Suns; and
(vi) a fuel recovery and a thermal management system that causes the molten metal to return to the injection system following ignition.


http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/SC-parts-3pics-111016.png


Dr. Mills, Founder and principal stockholder of Brilliant Light Power, Inc., has served as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer and President since 1991.

Dr. Mills has authored nine books, participated in over 50 presentations at professional meetings, and authored and co-authored over 100 papers regarding the field of energy technology that have been published in peer-reviewed journals of international repute.

Dr. Mills has received patents or filed patent applications in the following areas:
(1) Millsian computational chemical design technology based on a revolutionary approach to solving atomic and molecular structures;
(2) magnetic resonance imaging;
(3) Mossbauer cancer therapy (Nature, Hyperfine Interactions);
(4) Luminide class of drug delivery molecules;
(5) genomic sequencing method, and
(6) artificial intelligence.

A thorough description of the Company’s technology and Dr. Mills’ underlying atomic theory is published in a book entitled The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics.

Dr. Mills was awarded a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Chemistry, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from Franklin & Marshall College in 1982, and a Doctor of Medicine Degree from Harvard Medical School in 1986.

Following a year of graduate work in electrical engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Mills began his research in the field of energy technology.

[Bob]

Brilliant Light Power's December 2016 press release

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NEWS RELEASE

December 13th 2016, Cranbury, New Jersey, Brilliant Light Power, Inc. announces today the appointment of the Company’s Advisory Board –The Advisory Board consists of senior industry executives and includes Colin Bannon from BT, Bill Maurer from ABM Industries, Ray Gogel, former President of Current Group and US Grid Co., Matt Key, CEO of everynet and three additional executives from Telecoms, Finance and Legal professions.

“We searched extensively to identify Advisors that can help us answer some of the big questions to support our SunCell® commercial launch next year” said Dr. Randell L. Mills, Founder, President and CEO of Brilliant Light Power, Inc. “This is a team of senior executives from future customers, partners and advisory groups that will help us shape what we offer and how we offer it as we prepare to go to market”.

Bill Maurer, SVP from ABM Industries Energy division said “it’s a great opportunity to be part of the team that will launch the technology that will change the way we think about energy in the future”

Matt Key, CEO of everynet said “Brilliant Light Power has put together a very sophisticated advisory group and they have given us some big questions to consider. The SunCell® technology is an incredible invention and we all look forward to helping the Company in achieving its full potential by transforming the worlds energy markets as we know them”

The Advisory Board will meet monthly and will be advising Brilliant Light Power on its the commercial offerings, launch markets, potential customers and organizational structure the Company will employ to deliver them.

About Brilliant Light Power:
Brilliant Light Power, Inc. is developing a new zero-pollution, primary energy source applicable to essentially all power applications wherein the latent energy of the hydrogen atom from water molecules serving as the fuel source is released by forming Hydrinos®, a more stable chemical form of hydrogen. The SunCell® cell was invented by Dr. Mills to release this energy as brilliant light converted directly to electricity using concentrator photovoltaics at an anticipated cost of a small percentage of any competing source of electricity.

Website:
www.brilliantlightpower.com

[TargeT]

It's a brilliant idea

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its sort of like a miniaturized version of this:
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less focused on the heat generation, and more on the conversion directly to electricity (I wonder how much waste heat there is, potentially it could be used as well?)

[Bob]

Hia TargeT - my belief is that waste heat (from looking at the earlier blacklight article) could be converted to mechanical motion using low vaporization temp freons to drive turbine(s) to then create electricity directly. The heat would vaporize the low temp freon, which could then be re-condensed back to liquid.. sort of a heat-pump system... or even a type of sterling-like engine could use the excess heat..

[Flash]

One thing seems sure: the establishment or cabal or the change of cabal seems to have decided that open free energy for all is a go - they must have found a way to collect money from it.

It would be great in any circumstance, for the planet, I think. Unless it can be used for nefarious purposes in a way we cannot imagine yet.

[Wizard Of Ozark]

I know I'm preaching to the choir but an affordable free energy source is absolutely a game changer, if it's legit. And that's an understatement. I've been through the half-truths, hoaxes, and such, from the alternative community, in regards to such a device, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Downright giddy if I let myself inhabit the possibility! It seems they want to put it on the market in 2018. It would set the whole world on a brand new, and brighter, path. We shall see... but I can't wait! *stamping feet and flailing arms excitedly while still bracing self for soul-crushing disappointment*

[PurpleLama]

Timing is everything....

[enigma3]

I hope this stays up. It is a most fascinating post. With the seed money and directors aboard it will truly be a game changer. "Free" energy from water. I always thought hydrogen would be involved. I will be following this one closely.

[ThePythonicCow]

Ok - by agreement of most of the parties involved, I removed a few off topic posts.

[Intranuclear]

Thank you Paul for removing those posts as they were most disturbing. The internet indeed makes it easy to find dirt on people with or without merit.

As for hydrinos, I was completely ignorant on the topic. I just did some "research", and it is remarkable how split everyone seems to be on this issue.
One thing that seems to be consistent in all of history is that anything truly revolutionary is dismissed all to quickly especially by experts or rather gatekeeper of existing theories of the time even though they themselves admit that the theories they use to reject new observations are themselves severely limited, including quantum mechanics or even the newer string theories.

The problem with verifying the existing device is that without a "proper" theoretical framework, patenting the invention may be impossible. However, the moment a new theoretical framework that can predict existing phenomena and provide new predictions, similar inventions will be unstoppable.
God only know how difficult it is to patent anything that is deemed a "national security" issue.

Of course, new theories of physics almost always are used to create exponentially more powerful weapons, so there is a severe downside. I can't think of any major discoveries in physics or chemistry that contradict this observation, assuming they are allowed to be published.

Seems like sneaking in inventions in a more benign way may be the way to go.

I mean, what are the chances of allowing the publication of any theory which can be used as a recipe to make more efficient weapons?
I think I just depressed myself.

[Bob]

One thing seems sure: the establishment or cabal or the change of cabal seems to have decided that open free energy for all is a go - they must have found a way to collect money from it.

It would be great in any circumstance, for the planet, I think. Unless it can be used for nefarious purposes in a way we cannot imagine yet.

It's not quite free energy Flash - in my post 6 above, looking at when the company was named Black Light Power here is how the Dr described the output - (SunCell design)


The working models in his lab generate 50 kilowatts of electricity - enough to power six or seven houses.

But these, Mills says, can be scaled [up] to drive a large, electric power plant.

The inventor claims this electricity will cost less than 2 cents per kilowatt-hour, which compares to a national average of 8.9 cents. Mills developed the patented cocktail that enables the reaction - a solid fuel made of hydrogen and a sodium hydride catalyst - only a year ago.

There was no mention of "duration" of production of the 50 kilowatts produced, how long does the system produce such? In what form of energy, pure 50 or 60 cycle normal electric power, or a "burst" of such power. Is the sodium hydride "catalyst" actually consumed and/or does it de-compose or need a "recharge" of excess hydrogen gas? Another unknown question.. with no given answer.

later in the December 2016 press release, where the company name is now Brilliant Light Power this:


Brilliant Light Power, Inc. is developing a new zero-pollution, primary energy source applicable to essentially all power applications wherein the latent energy of the hydrogen atom from water molecules serving as the fuel source is released by forming Hydrinos®, a more stable chemical form of hydrogen.

The SunCell® cell was invented by Dr. Mills to release this energy as brilliant light converted directly to electricity using concentrator photovoltaics at an anticipated cost of a small percentage of any competing source of electricity.

A few unknowns that I did not see covered, such as the total energy consumed verses total energy out and what byproducts besides "waste heat".. the photovoltaic cells that are listed as using the "light" have a conversion efficiency (not disclosed), and a life span, also not disclosed.. the hydrogen ion (the nucleus of the atom stripped of an electron) is technically the most corrosive "acid" known to exist. Will that "acid" eat through the containers? Like in fusion reactors, if the "plasma" touches the walls, it burns through and the reaction stops.. I didn't see how the electrodes are allowed to contain the plasma (which is quite hot apparently) and not immediately or shortly thereafter break down (and need to be replaced)...

If taken at the face value cost of electricity produced by the "system" is really to be "retail" at less than 2 cents per kilowatt hour, that is pretty good.. We don't fully know if there is any other radiation such as neutron flux radiated from the hydrogen.. or is this a real low temperature nuclear reaction LNR.. so a few questions remain.. it certainly sounds promising..

However now, going back to the Dr's theory page he has a section that says in one of his special "fuel cells" running on water that


Specifically, oxidation-reduction reactions of H2O involving oxygen and oxygen ion intermediates such as hydroxide, oxides, peroxides, and superoxides are involved in the spontaneous electrolysis of water powered by hydrino formation that in turn result in the formation of catalyst and hydrinos.

The equivalent of Steps 1 and 2 occur continuously, except that no electricity has been applied during this process. Power is produced with a large net gain in electricity (e.g. 10X) over that to initiate the spontaneous electricity-producing process.

Now that is then "free energy" 10X more out than in.. But, is there consumption of something other than water in the reaction, something missed? He calls it a catalyst, and a catalyst in a normal chemical sense is not normally "consumed", such just facilitates a "reaction", so that Less Energy is consumed in a chemical reaction than would be needed without the catalyst.. http://brilliantlightpower.com/ciht-cell/

If one goes to wiki and looks up HYDRON - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydron_(chemistry) one gets this description -

"In chemistry, a hydron is the general name for a cationic form of atomic hydrogen, represented with the symbol H+
However, in most textbooks, this term is avoided and instead "proton" is used, which strictly speaking refers to the cation of protium, the most common isotope of hydrogen. The term "hydron" includes cations of hydrogen regardless of their isotopic composition.."

and

"Traditionally, the term "proton" was and is used in place of "hydron". Acid and bases are referred to as proton donors and acceptors correspondingly."

What I don't see is where the 10X over unity energy surplus comes from.. in what appears to be a normal fuel cell..

His image is this:

http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/images/CIHTSchematic.png

[The Freedom Train]

I thought it pertinent to add an excerpt from this Interview with Stephan Schwartz PhD (remote viewer): Nonlocal Awareness and Visions of the Future, as interviewed by Daniel Redwood, DC.

".........REDWOOD: The project of yours that I find most intriguing is the 2050 Project. Could you tell us about that?

SCHWARTZ: That’s another variant of all this. When I was in government, I was asked to participate on a committee that the Secretary of Defense and the president of MIT put together, called, “Innovation, Technology and the Future.” And then I was asked to host a television program called, “Conversations at the Smithsonian: Innovation, Technology and the Future.” So I began reading a lot of futurist stuff. And if we all look back at what we were concerned about in the 1970s, the great fear was overpopulation, that we would run out of natural resources, nuclear war, just dreadful stuff. That was the settled wisdom of the futurists. If you read the futurist literature of that period, the Club of Rome or Paul Ehrlich’s work, that’s what it was saying. Well, none of it turned out to be true. So by 1978 I could see that pretty much all of what we had said about the future was wrong. And as I began to look at it, I realized that almost all predictions about the future are wrong. Not just details, but even the broad trends are not correct, despite the fact that people who write them up are very smart and diligent.

So I thought that if we could use remote viewing to accomplish all that we had already done, why couldn’t we get it to look at the future? This made me think, well, how far into the future would you go? Reading about various kinds of predictions, I realized that if you get even a century or so down the time line, things change so much that they become incomprehensible. As an example, if you had tried to explain the Internet to your grandmother 80 years ago, what would you say? I have this box on my desk and it links me up with a box on every other desk in the world, and it also stores all the information, and I can get it all and transmit. It’s incomprehensible. If you were talking to a 17th century thinker, how would you possibly explain either the technology or the cultural effect of television? “There’s a box that sits on a table and it’s got dancing people in it.” The whole concept is very hard to get hold of. In the late 19th century, before Pasteur, people couldn’t think of germs.

REDWOOD: Somewhat along these lines, I read in the paper today that last year in Boston a paralyzed man became the first person to send an email with his thoughts. There was a chip implanted in his brain that enabled him to do this.

SCHWARTZ: Really! Well, all of these kinds of things led me to realize that I should not go too far down the timeline, because I wouldn’t understand what I was being told. So I settled on the year 2050. And in 1978 I began collecting this data, and I’ve gotten about 4000 people to do this. I asked them to go forward in time to the year 2050 [while in a state of nonlocal awareness] and to describe what they see, what people wear, what kind of health care is there, very mundane stuff. How do you pay for things, what does your house look like, how many people live in your area. Not big, grandiose questions, just mundane stuff. How many children do you have? How do the children communicate? How do people travel? And I began to get, immediately, a view that was utterly different than the view that I had expected. It contradicted just about everything that I thought the future was about.

REDWOOD: What did they see in 2050?

........... (several paragraphs removed for brevity and to highlight the main point I wanted to share here. For the rest please see the attached PDF: 34774 for the interview in full, which is a very interesting read!!)

SCHWARTZ: That there has been an energy revolution, that energy is no longer an issue. There’s some decentralized kind of energy. This is a case where even though I was only looking less than a hundred years into the future, the descriptions don’t mean anything to me or anyone else that I’ve shown them to. All I can tell you is they describe this thing, that’s probably three feet high and maybe three feet wide, like a big box. There are various sizes of them. They sit in either individual homes or in neighborhoods and they provide power. In 2050, nobody thinks much about power anymore. I can’t tell you what it is. I thought for a while that it was cold fusion, but we don’t know yet whether cold fusion is real. I just don’t understand. They try to describe it to you, but the technology has not yet been invented, the concept is not here yet. People say, “Well, it’s a box.” I said, “Does it get very hot?” thinking there might be something inside the box. They said, “No, it just kind of hums along and produces power. So I said, “How does it do that?” and they said, “Well, there are these wires.” The net of it is, there has been an energy revolution, that’s a big one, and also a medical revolution. Most illnesses, most chronic illnesses have disappeared. Multiple sclerosis, muscular dystrophy. The chronic genetic diseases have largely disappeared because they’re engineered out at birth, or at pre-birth............"

((http://www.healthy.net/Health/Interview/Nonlocal_Awareness_and_Visions_of_the_Future/305#))

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

One thing seems sure: the establishment or cabal or the change of cabal seems to have decided that open free energy for all is a go - they must have found a way to collect money from it.

I was somewhat cynically thinking that too, in that avenues to free energy - totally free abundant energy - usually get 'disappeared' one way or the other. From Tesla on, that seems to be the trend, and it's very sad.

Let us hope this is what it claims to be, does what it claims to do, lives up to expectations and comes to fruition. We've had too many disappointments. But this really would change everything!

[TargeT]

the hydrogen ion (the nucleus of the atom stripped of an electron) is technically the most corrosive "acid" known to exist. Will that "acid" eat through the containers? Like in fusion reactors, if the "plasma" touches the walls, it burns through and the reaction stops.. I didn't see how the electrodes are allowed to contain the plasma (which is quite hot apparently) and not immediately or shortly thereafter break down (and need to be replaced)...

From my understanding they are forcing a "lower" orbit for the electron, not stripping the electron (that's what the "hydrrino" is and where all the energy comes from, that electron orbit change).


Now that is then "free energy" 10X more out than in.. But, is there consumption of something other than water in the reaction, something missed? He calls it a catalyst, and a catalyst in a normal chemical sense is not normally "consumed", such just facilitates a "reaction", so that Less Energy is consumed in a chemical reaction than would be needed without the catalyst.. http://brilliantlightpower.com/ciht-cell/

He said it consumes water, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Catalyst is consumed at a very slow rate (and I'd call it "less effective" not really consumed)



What I don't see is where the 10X over unity energy surplus comes from.. in what appears to be a normal fuel cell..

His image is this:

http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/images/CIHTSchematic.png

It's not even "over unity" (I guess that's debatable. I don't see it as over unity, it's just utilizing energy that's already stored in the higher electron orbits) it's just that he's found a way to drop the electron to it's lowest orbit, which releases a huge amount of energy as the electron changes to a tighter orbit.


Obviously, a positive energy change means that the electron absorbs energy, while a negative energy change implies a release of energy from the electron. Note that the formula is the energy per mole, rather than that of a single photon.
https://d18l82el6cdm1i.cloudfront.net/image_optimizer/828074b56149261712cab408756e22419c029d2a.png
During transition, an electron absorbs/releases energy is in the form of light energy. The energy of the photon absorbed/released during the transition is equal to the energy change of the electron. Using the properties of DeBroglie waves, we can calculate the wavelength and frequency of the following formula:

It's well explained here, I don't know how to copy the formulas over:
https://brilliant.org/wiki/energy-level-and-transition-of-electrons/

[Sunny-side-up]

Cynically thinking.

They the PTW let out a form of energy device, a device that is not the real Zero Point tech that we know exists. so all development money and developers become consumed by the tech that we are allowed to see. this goes on for many years and becomes the new norm-tech. All the time the PTW keep the true powerful-clean free energy tech for their black-opp's/selves. So who will be the financial backers and then controllers?

This will also divert attention from the black-opp tech, helping keep it secrete, keeping it breakaway.

Great to see something coming to light though :)

My main concern I have is every time I see 'Water' in the equation :(
We already hear that future battles/wars might focus around the diminishing drinking waters of this now grey planet.
with the PTW controlling water stocks Doh

More stress for the Bio-sphere from us.

So do Black-opps have Anti-gravitic craft/drives, do they have Zero-Point clean energy, can they go into space, to other solar systems, galaxy's?

[TargeT]

My main concern I have is every time I see 'Water' in the equation :(
We already hear that future battles/wars might focus around the diminishing drinking waters of this now grey planet.
with the PTW controlling water stocks Doh

More stress for the Bio-sphere from us.

Well, we aren't running out of water any time soon (planet is still 2/3 covered in it) and she certainly isn't grey!

Not sure what your worried about there, both those topics are highly obfuscated and certainly contain no conclusive evidence that there is anything to worry about currently (nor that we can do anything about it!).


So do Black-opps have Anti-gravitic craft/drives, do they have Zero-Point clean energy, can they go into space, to other solar systems, galaxy's?

Does "zero point" energy exist? (I don't think so, I think very very "easy" energy exists, but not "free" or "zero point").

I couldn't answer any of those questions conclusively in the positive and anyone who does, with out some sort of evidence; is suspect in my mind.


HOWEVER:

we already have "anti-gravity" tech in the public sphere (seems to be more of a "gravity shield" than anti-gravity) so maybe?

We already have seen some forms of cold fusion are "probably" possible (the E-cat etc... maybe this new unit as well?) so, maybe?

We certainly know space is obtainable (lots of of man-made objects up there that can be seen from earth) so definitely that is happening.

We have already sent probes out side our solar system, but the next galaxy is so far away... I don't think we've gone to other galaxies yet.

So.... i guess we'll just have to wait and see?

[Bob]

Hia TargeT - I get what you are saying. Mills claims 10X more energy out than in in the "fuel cell" version of his "hydrino" utilization method. I've never known of any way where an electron orbit of hydrogen can be placed into a lower orbit than can possibly exist. In the "ground state", it is as close as it's going to get to the proton nucleus. The atom is stable, one proton, one electron and the momentum of the electron (outward) plus the coulomb force (inward), keep the atom together balanced. There is no "new" element in that ground state.

Add energy, the electron moves to a higher orbit, like adding a faster "spin" the movement is outwards. Remove the stimulus and the electron drops back down to ground state and in {that} process from ground +1, a photon (electromagnetic wave packet) is emitted. The "energy" then that is emitted is one photon packet with a given amount of energy. The energy emitted is never more out than comes in when the momentum is "extracted".

I am assuming Mills is saying then he can make the "ground state" lower, or closer to the proton, something that "physics" says isn't possible, and that appears to be where the contention comes in when a classic physicist says Mills can't do what he is claiming.. not in creating a "new atom" with a different proton/electron ground state.

http://science.jrank.org/article_images/ep201102/science/science982.jpg

What I would believe though, is the "fuel cell" is similar to the pons fleischmann "charging up" of the metal "sponge" that is storing "excess hydrogen".. Mills calls the hydrogen hydride catalyst the magical substance (paraphrased) where the hydrino is formed (the 'illegal hydrogen' atom).. My belief is the cell continues to miraculously put out 'excess energy' from the chemical reaction of surplus hydrogen and metal reactively creating a "battery" as the hydride sponge reacts..

In other words its like a metal-air battery, where in such a battery, the charges between the oxygen and the metal are utilized to create electron excess. With the "hydride battery" though, the metal and hydrogen forms the "battery" which he says is the "catalyst".. I don't think it's a catalyst, I think it's a "hidden battery" which is supplying the excess "juice" in the form of hydrogen-metal reactional chemistry.. (no fusion, just standard electro-chemical battery) When the excess "hidden" (stored) hydrogen runs out of the "sponge" (the metal hydride holding the excess hydrogen), the "magical" electrolyis reaction stops.. (the hydride is consumed in other words, or at least the "hydrogen stores" are consumed)... So my question of "HOW LONG" does this apparatus RUN before it crashes.. The excess hydrogen is stored in the "metal sponge" (hydride) and then gets consumed, and the "battery" is then discharged.. Adding more "water" into the fuel cell then would not do anything as the excess stored (hidden) hydrogen is used up..

I haven't fully yet analyzed the solar-cell concept to see what's happening there, unless it's utilizing the same "electrochemical excess hydrogen "hidden" battery" contributing the "excess apparent energy"..

Not saying this is debunked.. (yet).. Just saying the excess hydrogen "metal-sponge" could be a "hidden battery", and disguising it as a "lower than ground state electron | proton" (hydrogen) atom may be happening in the "explanation" of a "hydrino" being created. (see the eVionyx page referenced below about metal energy stores)

The "atom" reference page is this: http://science.jrank.org/pages/982/Bohr-Model.html - the Bohr Hydrogen Atom

The reference page for metal-air batteries is - http://web.archive.org/web/20101227101957/http://www.batteriesdigest.com/metal_air.htm

eVonyx - fuel cell "batteries" - http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/fuel_cell_markets/member_view.aspx?articleid=662&subsite=1&language=1


eVionyx is an energy company dedicated to the development of metal-fuel-cell technology through innovative solutions that benefit humanity.

Our mission is to help the world take advantage of solid-metal fuels and, in the process, become a leader in the global energy marketplace.

Metals, such as zinc, aluminum, and magnesium store vast amounts of energy. Besides, they are naturally abundant, inexpensive, recyclable, and environmentally friendly.

Perhaps most significantly, metals are intrinsically nonflammable and safe to handle, which affords us the opportunity to build a metal fuel economy with a simple, affordable infrastructure.

lastly, a "metal hydride "air" battery" - https://arpa-e.energy.gov/?q=slick-sheet-project/metal-hydride-air-battery - JPL (Jet propulsion Labs) prototypes

for the "solar-cell" Mill's system, possibly this concept is being utilized - http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/148/2/A121.short "a photo recharged metal-hydride air battery"

A good article in understanding how VAST amounts of hydrogen can be stored in metal nano-structures is here - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369702111701626

And in photo-stimulated "water splitting" - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1002007112001463 pioneered by Fujishima and Honda..


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For the group, here is another analogy, reduced to its simplest form..

I have a hydride power source for my flashlight. It is fantastic ! It contains a lot of power in a small double A sized "battery".. The battery is a nickle metal hydride battery..

IF I were basically naive and I was looking for "free energy" I could turn on my flashlight with that miraculous "power source" and say WEEEEEEE I have hours and hours and hours of useful light ! Look at all that energy!!

And I could put a meter on the miraculous power source, and it would show some measure of POWER coming out of the magical device.. I could turn the flashlight off, and the current would gradually appear to increase for the miraculous power source (such effects are known to happen as the chemistry alters in a discharging verses idle battery)...

And I would be blown away, with such a miraculous device being given to me which uses a HYDRIDE !! I could even be woo'd to believe some magical new particle exists that powers the reaction...

But, sadly, after a while, my flashlight no longer shines... Something unmiraculous is happening !! OH NO !! sadness..

Then the manufacturer says, well wait a minute, we have a way to make the magic come back ! They send something and say put the miraculous device in this thing, and wait a few hours, and put the magical miraculous device back in your flash light and turn it on..

I do, and wooooohhhhhh, I get light again ! something has put the magic back...

That is what happens when one not familiar with the makeup of a metal hydride battery, how it works, how the chemicals work, and so forth... Not that that is the case with the BlackLight that became Brilliant Light.. just saying, it could be excess hydrogen storage being "missed" by the observers, and nothing miraculous is really happening, just some really good sleight of hand "black majik"...

So the summary is this -

When there is something coming out which is useful energy - one has to take a look at the total energy that was used to 1) make the whatever device in the first place, 2) make the whatever release the inherent energy, and 3) if the device can be made to re-release the stored energy, how much energy must be put in..

Then one looks at how often can it be "re-charged", and what is the cost of recharging physically and in energy consumed..

One never sees in an electro-chemical reaction, MORE OUT than in.. Some methods are more efficient, most are very very low efficiency..

If it seems too good to be true, it is too good to be true..

Only at this time what we are being let on to understand and work with, is the nuclear reaction, where the nuclear binding force provides immense "over unity" energy levels.

Example: At the nuclear level, nuclear binding energy is the energy required to disassemble a nucleus into the free, unbound neutrons and protons it is composed of.

It is the energy equivalent of the mass excess, the difference between the mass number of a nucleus and its true measured mass.

The average nuclear binding energy per nucleon ranges from 2.22452 Million electron Volts (MeV) for hydrogen-2 to 8.7945 MeV for nickel-62.

In other words Mills is not working with the binding force.

[WhiteLove]

I just saw the videos at http://brilliantlightpower.com/plasma-video/, it looked very compelling and very promising! This could actually be something huge... I am waiting for additional developments around this with great excitement!! Hopefully we will have some third party board of scientists doing independent validation and presentation of data from this...

[Desire]

Is this company still around or did they take it out?

[Bob]

Is this company still around or did they take it out?

They have a website page, collected what appears to be millions of $$$ from investors, and have had their apparatus claims/devices reviewed - presentations of some of their apparatus make witnesses believe something amazing is happening.. brilliantlightpower.com

my feeling is there is some undisclosed phenomenon happening (the excess hydrogen in Mill's catalyst) where the energy is coming from the "undisclosed phenomenon". I am not convinced that it is hydrino, or free energy. My post 23 above describes my feelings.

Logically if one were to create a bit of smoke and mirrors, how it would be done is to create a NEW WORD (hydrino), and then have people argue and focus on that new word, and allegedly new physics.. arguing about how it (the hydrino) works then detracts attention from something that could be very clearly obvious to those familiar with hydrogen storage devices.

Secondly, find a method that can be covered up, such as hydrogen being stored highly effficiently, basically within the "metal" and call that metal a catalyst. By using the word CATALYST that would also take attention OFF the stored hydrogen, as a chemist and physicist would know that a CATALYST would not be consumed.. But the hydrogen in the so called catalyst WILL be consumed and depending on the efficiency and release mechanism of the hydrogen from the "catalyst", it could very well pass simple testing...

Sleight of hand, the logic I described in my post details clearly what to look for and what to test for - - looking at the obvious, not some new particle being created.. by 'redefining' physics according to Mills.

[Desire]

Thanks Bob, I'm now wondering if this isn't another disinformation scam to get us all excited for free energy and that grab it away from us. But, I do believe free energy is really out there and by accepting that in our minds we can make it happen

[Bob]

Thanks Bob, I'm now wondering if this isn't another disinformation scam to get us all excited for free energy and that grab it away from us. But, I do believe free energy is really out there and by accepting that in our minds we can make it happen

I updated my post with some simple analogy to remove technical-ness.. Sorta showing how one who is not experienced can be 'convinced'.. As to disinformation, it maybe a very very good 'scam' in so much as really good technicians checked the 'energy coming out', and such showed immense energy coming out..

I am not convinced that conventional "chemistry" can achieve free energy.. I am convinced that a cold fusion nuclear reaction could very well be a source of "free energy", using the excess energy liberated by atomic fusion.. But I don't see fusion coming in the Mill's apparatus.. So I am left to ponder, where did the energy come from.. I see hydrogen stored in the miraculous catalyst being the 'hidden' (look away from behind the curtain) energy.. I may be wrong, but that is how I view this on the surface. Mills states that his "catalyst" is the key, well, OK, so what's in that??

Stored hydrogen.. Hydrogen is the power, and hidden stored hydrogen being released over time, could have what appears to be a "flat" discharge curve.. Dunno the spec's fully of his "battery".. just saying the obvious is what strikes me, more so than a new particle being created...

Alas, this reminds me of Keely, John Keely, who claimed he could cause water to spontaneously release immense amounts of energy if just the right "frequencies" were put in.. I could easily see Keely having made the first hydrogen absorbing sponge, which when the right frequencies are played, that the release of the "stored gas" could appear... And possibly if a reactive metal was then exposed to the excess hydrogen, that an immense temperature rise would very well happen.. What the sleight of hand is, the stored hydrogen in the METAL SPONGE was released, on command... And it could very well be the right 3 frequencies caused a strong enough resonance to the stored metal sponge to release the metal's stored hydrogen. Was John Keely then a sham? Was his technology a sham?

A metal releasing hydrogen to be combined with an appropriate receiver as within a battery is a very good technology, just that there is no real 'majik' happening, no new particles, just conventional chemistry and conventional physics..

I don't know if that's the case with the Mill's 'hydride'... I provided some references to the immense amount of power that can come out of METAL-HYDRIDE batteries.. so, it could just be that..

[Desire]

Thanks Bob again, I have seen videos here that show how to create free energy. They are using different battery sources and appear to work well. Rocky Shorts has oneDo you think we can do it?. What do you think?

[Rocky_Shorz]

I don't think anyone has posted about this yet (I did a search but if it's a repeat moderators please do whatever you do with those :bigsmile:)

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I was wondering if the news stations would drop the CIA lies headlines and go after big oil...

great to see it happening.

[TargeT]

Hia TargeT - I get what you are saying. Mills claims 10X more energy out than in in the "fuel cell" version of his "hydrino" utilization method. I've never known of any way where an electron orbit of hydrogen can be placed into a lower orbit than can possibly exist.

Normally Hydrogen is stable with it's electron at the lowest orbit level (this is all theory however, we could be completely wrong). What if it's lowest level... wasn't it's lowest level? I'm guessing that's the claim here. that he's some how dropping the electron lower... Hydrinos have a radius proportional to 1/p, so state p=4 is 1/4 ground state size per Mills so 64 fit into(cube for volume) a ground state atom volume. Likewise mean free path increases to the inverse of cross section to 16 times for p=4. Nickel has a diameter 5.4 times hydrogen ground state so 2,519 of the p=4 hydrinos would fit into the nickel atom volume.

So, hydrinos would be highly penetrating with much longer mean free paths, enabling much easier escape from containers and container gas than ground state hydrogen molecules H2.

These two videos go into a bunch of detail on the "hydrino"


https://vimeo.com/194678559



https://vimeo.com/194618004


But that's the problem with no published theoretical model.

I'd assume he has power output measurements that back up his statements... we'll have to see those for sure.... I'd guess the E-cat is much further along as a mature technology (it's already had a few third party tests done on it).



Same issue with the E-cat... it sure SEEMS to work, but "why" isn't exactly known (though the e-cat with it's palladium catalyst and nickle + hydrogen actually makes a lot of sense on what's going on, reaction wise)

[Bob]

What I would wonder about as to 'more punch' for a particle would be what type of momentum would exist that is being stored up.. Binding energy in fission and fusion reactions appears to be where lots of power could come from. But that needs a nucleus with a neutron and the basic hydrogen does not have that neutron, and the nucleus is never being taken apart to release nuclear reaction "binding force energy".. (no fusion, no fission in the Mill's reactions)

Without neutrons in the "hydrinos" there is no potential for fusion or fission, no atomic reaction, so what is left is looking at available momentum energy and any potential for the electrons to be stripped off.. leaving a proton with a strong positive charge (a strong acid), which then could be held apart from a strong "lewis-style" base (like oxygen) - such as in the reaction H 2 + O ⟶ H 2 O , one could say that oxygen is lewis acid but that would be contradictory since hydrogen doesn't have a lone pair to donate. Therefore, oxygen acts as a lewis base by donating a lone pair to hydrogen ion when acids are dissolved in water. That would form the basis for fuel cell batteries which Mill's claims to have created.. Fuel cells are electrochemical then.

So I think unless he is creating lithium or deuterium there are no neutrons happening. No fusion reaction happening, and no excess binding energy being liberated to account for "excess energy" production..

Then what's left? hydrogen storage coming out of the hidden stores in the 'specially made proprietary hydrogen hydride catalyst"...

Looking at a 1/4 ground state, where an electron is moved closer to the proton. One would assume that 3x more momentum is present to keep the electron from collapsing into the nucleus.. Sounds logical, but that is not 10X more energy coming out, and it would take immense energy being put in, to then get the electron that close.. So my question is how much total energy is used in the system so one could look at energy in verses energy out..

So let's say that the electron can be forced and kept in an illegal "state".. When the electron jumps to a higher energy state, like in this case normal hydrogen ground state.. energy is ADDED, and where does the extra energy come from? The way I look at it, energy is needed to force a 1/4 distance "new ground state", to create an impossible atom, and then when trying to utilize that new atom's electron to move upwards (and then to move downwards to release juice), again energy is needed. It's a loose loose formula. Energy to create a new 'illegal state' and then energy needed to raise that energy level back to normal ground state.. ergo, loose loose..

But if one substitutes the understanding of metal hydride hydrogen storage, and considers the "battery" is present, it makes sense.. the extra energy is coming from conventional chemistry of an electro chemical metallic hydride battery.. no mystery that way, nothing with illegal 1/4 ground distance states, everything works normally as in electrochemical batteries.. Which leads me to believe this "new fuel cell" of Mill's isn't working with "hydrinos", but stored hydrogen being released from his custom made proprietary "hydride catalyst"

[TargeT]

When the electron jumps to a higher energy state, like in this case normal hydrogen ground state.. energy is ADDED, and where does the extra energy come from? The way I look at it, energy is needed to force a 1/4 distance "new ground state", to create an impossible atom, and then when trying to utilize that new atom's electron to move upwards (and then to move downwards to release juice), again energy is needed. It's a loose loose formula. Energy to create a new 'illegal state' and then energy needed to raise that energy level back to normal ground state.. ergo, loose loose..

his claim that he's taking it from a standard orbit to a lower one and making energy makes sense, the new lower orbit doesn't seem to exist though in standard models.. that's the only place I find conflict.

The above videos (VEMO links) talk about why he's going this route, a challenge to quantum mechanics really.. At least watch the first video, it's pretty interesting stuff (about 20 min) I'm open to the fact that quantum mechanics is flawed & they explain it in a way that it seems possible/feasible.

His theory is that the hydrogen atom has a series of orbits that exist below the ground orbit, from ground all the way to 1/137th of the ground state orbit, the currents of the electron at this point (1/137th) are approaching the speed of light so you cannot go below that.

Anyway, that's what hydrino's are based on..



But if one substitutes the understanding of metal hydride hydrogen storage, and considers the "battery" is present, it makes sense.. the extra energy is coming from conventional chemistry of an electro chemical metallic hydride battery.. no mystery that way, nothing with illegal 1/4 ground distance states, everything works normally as in electrochemical batteries.. Which leads me to believe this "new fuel cell" of Mill's isn't working with "hydrinos", but stored hydrogen being released from his custom made proprietary "hydride catalyst"

It's very possible that it's a LENR reaction just like the E-cat, I suspect Deuterium is being created, but not tested for as this "hydrino" is all they are looking for.

[Bob]

So we'd have a basis to be able to try to check Mill's re-write of Physics so that he can explain why he feels he gets extra energy out of his "battery"..

I just can't seem to wrap my head around re-writing physics to justify how a for-sale product which gleaned I think I saw 70million $ US needed such to explain it's operation.

I can see how a metal hydride battery action hidden inside a proprietary catalyst which must be used to create "hydrinos" can happen. I can't see redefining "reality" to suit what looks like to me as a marketing scheme.

If the hydrinos can be then created without the special proprietary catalyst, then we'd have a basis for looking at the reality of hydrinos and many other closer energy ground states for hydrogen's electrons. My point is, moving the electron closer needs energy, moving the electron then further out and then back again to release some energy needs energy.. All the energy needed is a net loss, not a gain.. I don't see how taking a ground state electron in hydrogen and moving it closer some way out of a natural stable position is going to use less energy. If he is saying our normal ground state is NOT a real ground state, that something is tricking the electron to stay in the "normal ground state", that is where his basis for his physics re-write comes in.

But I would prefer to look at the reality of a hidden hydrogen store in his catalyst as the answer than re-writing physics as the explanation. To me that makes sense, not trying to explain that ground state for an electron in a stable hydrogen atom is not really "ground state" :)

As to the deuterium, somewhere then neutrons are going to be needed.. Finding out where the neutrons are coming from would be needed.

The nucleus of deuterium, called a deuteron, contains one proton and one neutron. Normal hydrogen is one electron in the ground state and one proton in the nucleus. Rotational momentum keeps the electron from collapsing into the nucleus and coulomb (electrostatic) charge keeps pulling the electron in.. The balance is kept stable. Knock out that electron, strip it, and a positive free floating proton happens just waiting to combine with an electron to achieve energy stability..

But manage to pop out that nucleus, then one has nuclear binding force release.. So if he managed to get a neutron in there (making deuterium), where did it come from, how did it manifest (that is transmutation), and then how is the split happening to release the binding force.. My understanding that transmutation could only happen from neutron manipulation.. Electrostatic repulsion keeps protons from entering the nucleus, leaving electrons as the "normal electro-chemistry" reactions..

I am totally fascinated with nuclear physics, not-so-much electron chemistry, but that which goes on inside the nucleus.. I just am not convinced Mill's is manipulating nuclear structures by forcing electrons to move to conventionally illegal states (as you mentioned down to 1/137th distances in).. To move it in, it just doesn't move in like slipping in, it takes energy, immense amounts if that is possible to force it to go in so close, and remain there..

[Bubu]

Cynically thinking.

They the PTW let out a form of energy device, a device that is not the real Zero Point tech that we know exists. so all development money and developers become consumed by the tech that we are allowed to see. this goes on for many years and becomes the new norm-tech. All the time the PTW keep the true powerful-clean free energy tech for their black-opp's/selves. So who will be the financial backers and then controllers?

This will also divert attention from the black-opp tech, helping keep it secrete, keeping it breakaway.

Great to see something coming to light though :)

My main concern I have is every time I see 'Water' in the equation :(
We already hear that future battles/wars might focus around the diminishing drinking waters of this now grey planet.
with the PTW controlling water stocks Doh

More stress for the Bio-sphere from us.

So do Black-opps have Anti-gravitic craft/drives, do they have Zero-Point clean energy, can they go into space, to other solar systems, galaxy's?

I agree in general with your post but dont worry about drinking water being destroyed by energy from water technology just in case, it would be a very little percentage and its going to turn back to water after use. More so water for energy technology is an impossibility unless we get engine manufacturers to cooperate which is also saying, we get the cabal to cooperate. One simply cant run ICE on water without providing a system to inject a lubricating oil on top of the piston. Speaking from experience. I have to mix lub oil to gasoline for lubrication otherwise the engine runs very hot and I am only able to cut at least 35% of petrol consumption from the hydroxy devise I made.

What happened to keshe tech and the previous allege new promising techs that was posted here. I have been here long enough to develop aberrations to such threads.

One thing that I keep in mind "energy is available anywhere in space in unlimited quantity" Nikola Tesla. . If any device should produce free or cheap energy it must be able to harvest energy from space, call it zero point or eather or whatever you want to. It has to come from it simply because this is an electric universe.

[General Urko]

After visiting their website, it seems they are marketing this technology to transportation companies. That raises a flag for me. The real money in a "free or almost free" energy device is to individuals or small neighborhoods. MILLIONS of potential customers. By marketing to transportation companies they show what the product really is. The transportation industry is used to a tech that must always be refueled, and that produces some sort of waste emissions. This may be a more efficient, less polluting power source for their fleets, which is great, but if that is the target customer, I don't believe this is the tech we are hoping for.

Just my 2 cents

[Ernie Nemeth]

now that we're coming back to reality and without any disparaging remarks

when and/or if the device arrives there will be no need for gimmicks, marketing schemes, or any other subterfuge

and that's a big if

ask Wade

[Bob]

After visiting their website, it seems they are marketing this technology to transportation companies. That raises a flag for me. The real money in a "free or almost free" energy device is to individuals or small neighborhoods. MILLIONS of potential customers. By marketing to transportation companies they show what the product really is. The transportation industry is used to a tech that must always be refueled, and that produces some sort of waste emissions. This may be a more efficient, less polluting power source for their fleets, which is great, but if that is the target customer, I don't believe this is the tech we are hoping for.

Just my 2 cents

Follow the money in other words..

[Praxis]

I dont care about what anybody says about the physics or whatever. I dont care about any of the discussion really because Im tired of theoretical, DO YOU REMEMBER STEORN!!!!!!??. If you cant put a video of your machine on power something practical, I have zero time for you. OOOH great, you put a video of some thing flashing brightly. Again, put your money where your physics is or go home. Maybe It is there and I just didnt find on my quick peruse, but again I have no time to dig into these claims. I think that is what many of these things are, IM LOOKING AT YOU KESHE!, is a time suck. Your most finite and precious resource here is time. if you waste it chasing these claims then they are winning. That is why i liked Stan meyer. He had a thing, he showed that thing, that thing worked. He is now dead and his tech locked away. unfortunately, im not smart enough to replicate his thing. I just tell others to be aware of it and eventually we can get out hands on it fromthe government

[ThePythonicCow]

A thorough description of the Company’s technology and Dr. Mills’ underlying atomic theory is published in a book entitled The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics.I have placed a copy of this book at http://thepythoniccow.us/GUT-CP-2016-Ed-Book-Web.pdf (103 MBytes).

I haven't quite finished reading it yet ... it's a mere 1817 pages long :).

[meat suit]

so what is the waste product of this process?
you lower the electron orbit, extract your energy.. and then the backside of the unit spits out altered hydrogen? what does that do?? evaporate???

[ThePythonicCow]

so what is the waste product of this process?
you lower the electron orbit, extract your energy.. and then the backside of the unit spits out altered hydrogen? what does that do?? evaporate???

Apparently Mills claims that this waste product, so called hydrino's, is nothing more than the black matter that supposedly makes up 90+% of the universe - tiny, non-reactive, elements that disappear from the view of any detector.

[Bob]

A thorough description of the Company’s technology and Dr. Mills’ underlying atomic theory is published in a book entitled The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics.I have placed a copy of this book at http://thepythoniccow.us/GUT-CP-2016-Ed-Book-Web.pdf (103 MBytes).

I haven't quite finished reading it yet ... it's a mere 1817 pages long :).

Thanks for doing that Paul. I hope others take a look at it too.

[lucidity]

There seems to be a deafening silence from the science media about this.
This is fake news.

[TargeT]

After visiting their website, it seems they are marketing this technology to transportation companies. That raises a flag for me. The real money in a "free or almost free" energy device is to individuals or small neighborhoods. MILLIONS of potential customers. By marketing to transportation companies they show what the product really is. The transportation industry is used to a tech that must always be refueled, and that produces some sort of waste emissions. This may be a more efficient, less polluting power source for their fleets, which is great, but if that is the target customer, I don't believe this is the tech we are hoping for.

Just my 2 cents

Follow the money in other words..

This is done for certification reasons, it's much easier to get industrial certifications; consumer certifications (especially for something that's in the house, making tiny suns...) takes a long time & a lot of testing still.

This is a big reason why consumers are almost always the last to get tech that's downsized from industry.

so the opposite is true in this case, the "easy money" is in industry.

[WhiteLove]

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https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCFqq2KeaQN0j2Y7jFsed7PQ

[Gillian]

Please post on this forum when you buy one. Share details, price, etc. Is it easy to use, hook up to electrical devices, etc.

Thank you

[TargeT]

Please post on this forum when you buy one. Share details, price, etc. Is it easy to use, hook up to electrical devices, etc.

Thank you

I do not think they are for sale yet, not until later this year.


Their validation page is interesting....


During April-May 2016, five independent third-party validations of Brilliant Light Power’s SunCell Technology were carried out at BrLP’s facilities in Cranbury, NJ. In each case, a scientist from academia or industry supervised and directed experiments and measurements, with BrLP staff acting in a support role to facilitate the work of the validator. Experimental set-ups were built from components, and instruments were calibrated in accordance with manufacturer’s specifications under the supervision of the validators. Four validation methods were employed to substantiate the SunCell® reaction power levels. These test results all demonstrate up to megawatt net power when compared to reference reactions. The highlights of the four techniques are:
Absolute Total Optical Power of Ignited Hydrated Silver Shots Recorded over the Spectral Range from Extreme Ultraviolet to Infrared Wavelengths: 514 kW of optical power was produced by a tiny hydrated silver shot due to the hydrino reaction. This result was extraordinary considering the peak power was 1.3 MW coming from a fuel shot having a volume of 10 millionths of a liter triggered by the ignition power of 25 kW, less than 2% of the peak power generated. It was further remarkable that the radiation was essentially all short wavelength (high energy) in the EUV and UV range with essentially no visible or near infrared light.
Absolute Ultraviolet Power Spectrum of Ignited Hydrated Oxide-Doped Silver Shots: Ignited partially hydrated oxide-doped shots showed optical power in the ultraviolet of up to 689,000 W that exceeded the ignition input power of 25 kW by a factor of 28 even considering that the UV light power represents only about 25% of the total optical power extending to 10 nm.
Calorimetry of Solid Fuel: This thermal power and energy test verified the measured optical powers and energies of single solid fuel shots. The total thermal power levels of over 300 kW were limited by the size of the test cell. A subsequent test with a 2 times larger test cell produced 440 kW. The tests were carried out in a commercial water bath calorimeter using 80 mg, 2mm diameter silver shots with a small amount of partially hydrated oxide doping run under an 95% argon and 5% hydrogen atmosphere. The shots were ignited in the water-submerged cell. The energy was determined by the temperature rise of the known amount of water in the bath, and the average power was determined from the energy released and the event duration.
Thermal Burst Power Measurement in Continuous Generator: The tests confirmed the feasibility of 1.5 MW continuous power generation with a total 8.6 kW input power to the ignition electrodes, electromagnetic pump, and inductively coupled heater used for startup and power calibration. Megawatt scale plasma power was generated when a small amount (0.5 wt%) of very stable oxide injected with a highly conductive, inert, molten silver matrix was allowed to react with an atmosphere of 3% hydrogen and 97% argon to form the hydrino reaction catalyst and atomic hydrogen in an ignited arc plasma. The insignificant input power was maintained constant, and output power increase with the addition of oxide to initiate the hydrino reaction was measured by the dramatic relative increase in the thermal response of a water coolant loop, heat exchanger about the cell body and components. The immense hydrino reaction power melted the 3.7 mm thick high-temperature stainless steel vessel walls and 6.6 mm thick tungsten electrodes in seconds. Commercial systems will incorporate high temperature refractory materials and control the reaction power to run for a projected two decades. The results demonstrate the feasibility of power densities in excess of those required to enable any planned SunCell power generator.

Lots more interesting reading here: http://brilliantlightpower.com/validation-reports/

[Wizard Of Ozark]

There seems to be a deafening silence from the science media about this.
This is fake news.

I see where you are coming from, but why does that give you confidence that it's fake? Scientists can be slow to embrace a new technology if it calls into question the current paradigm. In this case Quantum Physics. Nobody wants to look silly or put their career/reputation on the line, unnecessarily. Your's is a valid observation, though, and another thing to consider. I guess the only thing we can really do is wait and see. If it doesn't come to market in 2018, like they say, then I will stop holding my breath, or at least start releasing it. We've all been burned before. But free energy has to happen someday.

[Bob]

There seems to be a deafening silence from the science media about this.
This is fake news.

I see where you are coming from, but why does that give you confidence that it's fake? Scientists can be slow to embrace a new technology if it calls into question the current paradigm. In this case Quantum Physics. Nobody wants to look silly or put their career/reputation on the line, unnecessarily. Your's is a valid observation, though, and another thing to consider. I guess the only thing we can really do is wait and see. If it doesn't come to market in 2018, like they say, then I will stop holding my breath, or at least start releasing it. We've all been burned before. But free energy has to happen someday.

If it were true they wouldn't need 70 million dollars US to implement. Such a tech would need no more than 20,000 $ US to build models and demonstrate. Considering 3D printing and the cost to make models.. To have to re-write physics is a red flag too. IMHO of course.. Something that we should be allowed to state on this forum.

[amor]

It is too late for me to read all of the above, but Emellio Chavez did make a statement that he did not believe an electron could be two places at once. I have heard this before which I feel I may be able to clarify. In the Zero Field, we have really only one FORCE. That Force proceeds from many sources, spinning and intersecting with its neighbors to form what we call the "flower of life" pattern. These patterns are repetitive across the Zero Field, the forces meeting in opposing directions and causing each other to move in "resultant" directions. The same interactions are taking place across the Zero Field. The stronger force or "resultant" may be seen as the Negative force and the weaker "resultant" as the Positive force. Now in enumerable interactions these two forces make the patterns and appearance of matter. However, in actual fact their meeting and dodging motions seen as a group are a Wave Form made of what appears to us as One Negative Particle in space but is actually a great many interactions producing the illusion of movement and the wave form. There is never One Electron moving in a circle, but a great many in space-time creating the illusion of One Electron moving in a circle. Nothing is standing still in the illusion of space-time. What looks like a circle is actually a wave reconstructed in our brain as a circle.

[amor]

This insight comes from the Creator, God, who let me see into a little of his clever work.