People Claim To Have Seen A 90s Movie By Sinbad Called “Shazaam” But It Never Existed!?!?

[1Watchman]

First the Berenstein Bears and then other movies, now this.
The Mandela effect.

http://mythicist.me/sinbad-shazaam-never-existed-mandela-effect (http://mythicist.me/sinbad-shazaam-never-existed-mandela-effect/)

[thunder24]

it existed...

[the_real_dave-id]

I remember it too. Specifically because of the superhero that was called Shazam. I was excited they were making a Captain Marvel film (the other name for Shazam) until I saw the second "a" in the back half of the name and then Sinbad dressed as a genie on the poster. I even remember Phil Hartman had a hand in writing it as I was a fan of his work. Hmmm?

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
I think it was called Shazaam but played by Shaquille O'Neal
Here's a link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116756/

[thunder24]

Hello Everyone:
I think it was called Shazaam but played by Shaquille O'Neal
Here's a link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116756/

i remember that too

[the_real_dave-id]

The Shaq movie is called "Kazaam." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116756/?ref_=nv_sr_1

And it is almost the same plot as "Shazaam" was. A genie grants kid(s) wishes.

Both movies came out at relatively the same time making them easy to mix-up. Sort of like "A Bug's Life" and "Antz."

I remember BOTH movies existing!

[Bill Ryan]

Hello Everyone:
I think it was called Shazaam but played by Shaquille O'Neal
Here's a link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116756/

'Kazaam'...

http://projectavalon.net/Kazaam.gif

[Charles Harris]

I remember running full speed at my bed, jumping in the air and yelling, SHAZAM!
After watching the series on T.V. That is when I first learned that the little black box was a liar.
True Story, Charles

[Mitm]

I remember hearing of this movie too and seeing the poster, I wondered sometimes what ever became of it..

[Lifebringer]

Thanks Bill I destinctly remember Shaq saying "Shazaam!!" Wow merging as close as possible is occurring.

[dancing bear]

I don't remember the movie/film as not much of a visitor but do remember this when I was growing up in 70's . Two kids would bring their rings together and say Shazzan and a genie/gin would appear.
I remember it quite well as I really used to enjoy it. People used to think I was quite strange when I would talk about the previous evenings episode of Shazzan at work. I was only 26 and they would be talking about Crapnation Street :-) Naaaa only aving a laugh,10 or so really.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazzan

[Miaspri]

As far as I remember we Shazaam was with Shaq. However I do remember a movie with Sinbad playing a genie with a different name that I can't recall. Other aspects of the Mandela effect that I remember and it bugs me that I know it to be one way and now it's another.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

People on IMDB discussing the same thing we are.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005435/board/nest/264324827?ref_=nm_bd_1

[NeedleThreader]

I remember the movie with Sinbad. If I wasn't convinced of the mandala effect before this came up I am certainly changing gears now.

How can this be? SO far everything regarding the mandala effect are these little details or situations. Names of things etc.

What BIG things are different?

[seehas]

I remember the movie with Sinbad. If I wasn't convinced of the mandala effect before this came up I am certainly changing gears now.

How can this be? SO far everything regarding the mandala effect are these little details or situations. Names of things etc.

What BIG things are different?

i think i can remember even a cover about this movie its a weird feeling.

another movie with a weird taste is james bond - moonraker, there was a blonde girl in this movie "dolly" she had braces, but now the braces never existed some fans even contated the actress and she said that she never had any braces in that movie.

but when it comes to the mandela-effect i struggle more with the new sapruder movie seeing a different car and 6 people inside it, ive seen the sapruder movie of my old timeline more than hundred times and it was another car with 4 people in it.

interesting times we have

[the_real_dave-id]

Someone over at IMDB has posted an image of the Sindbad/Shazaam film on VHS. Photoshop hoax or real thing? Anyone remember this?

34778

[thunder24]

they need to upload video from it

[Honesty]

..........

[thunder24]

ASMSnC0ZpNw this shows the cover bill pulled to show and another cover. the second one in this video is more like what i remember but still not the same as i remember

[the_real_dave-id]

So now we've possibly got people faking mandela effects?
Great, that'll make it way easier to try to understand what's going on.


Not.

[thunder24]

im watching jupiter rising, and it had grays blanking people, so i thought of men in black with the statue of liberty being a zapper to blank the city. In jupiter rising it mentions some people make it through the cracks and remember things the rest dont....

just a possibility

[Octavusprime]

http://i.imgur.com/2gwWYg9.jpg

[BMJ]

Someone over at IMDB has posted an image of the Sindbad/Shazaam film on VHS. Photoshop hoax or real thing? Anyone remember this?

34778

I remember the movie also but I think the cover in this instance is a hoax. I remember Sinbad always carrying a little baby fat he was never built and cut.

The "genie" in the below displayed image actually features the chest and arms of WWE wrestler Chavo Guerrero, but with Sinbad's face digitally added to the scene:

http://static.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/wreslter.jpg

Link: http://www.snopes.com/did-sinbad-played-a-genie-in-the-90s-movie-shazaam/

[DNA]

Hey BMJ you are the man with that wrestler body double find. Excellent work!!!
With folks stating they remember the poster being similar I wonder if this was just the work of someone trying to show what their memory was of the original movie.



im watching jupiter rising, and it had grays blanking people, so i thought of men in black with the statue of liberty being a zapper to blank the city. In jupiter rising it mentions some people make it through the cracks and remember things the rest dont....

just a possibility


Hey Thunder nice correlating here. I love it when folks do this. We see so much of folks just plopping some new piece of data on the table but no one ever correlates. And if they do, folks have no mental endurance for it that I've seen or appreciation.
So I'm just showing my appreciation. :)




Also, just as a sidenote, My wife remembers this movie but I do not, and I've always been kind of a movie buff, I'm not proud of it or anything but my pop culture knowledge has always been pretty strong, and I do not remember this movie being made with Sinbad the actor at all.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I have at times thought this whole mandela effect subject was 'getting carried away' with itself, like rather too many internet memes tend to do - people jumping on board, particularly from social media, to fuel a new fad simply for the fact that it is new and cool (until it no longer is, then it dies). But this Shazaam thing is interesting, and it's starting to get a big following. Personally I don't remember the film.

I'm hoping for something more UK-centric to come along and really spark the memory banks (I have no idea who 'Sinbad' is to be honest, except for Sinbad the Sailor lol), something that in my mind is 100% incontrovertible, and solid proof to me that this is really real.

[Feritciva]

Ok I didnt give Mandela effect too much attention till now - anyway all the stories were in some "shadowy edges" of memory, but this is ridiculous. Of course there was a movie named Shazaam with Sinbad in my college days. I still remember it because it was fun (I was a very keen follower of comedy films back then) and the first movie I ever heard of Sinbad. I thought "why havent I heard of this guy before?"

So this must be kind of prank, trolling - or smth like that.... Or else this is really timeline merging (or splitting) and its time to read Granma Dolores again!

[Kate]

Interesting response from Sinbad himself and the replies are also worth a look

https://twitter.com/sinbadbad/status/817018312731332608?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (hope the link works)

One guy claims to have the movie https://twitter.com/MCAWestleyRiley

[thunder24]

Hey Thunder nice correlating here.

you should check out Silvia Ivanova's work. She is researching how the Jesuits (if i remember correctly) inserted a thousand years of history into our minds by taking the i or j infront of dates and turning it into a 1. i posted some of her videos here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10845-Avalon-The-gathering-of-33-Bloodlines...&p=1122011#post1122011)

My thoughts are that this is a technological thing with the mandela effect but being used for the same purpose to rewrite our history. We only notice the small mundane things cause as a whole we are apathetic and indifferent because of technology, sports, celebs, etc... For some reason I think they are connected...but its only an opinion.

My mind went to sept 11 2001 for some reason. IN the future the whole narrative being rewritten different from mainstream and alternative view... but i digress

[Domp4547]

This one bothers me, I do remember Sinbad as a genie. That's all that I knew him for, I didn't follow his stand up acts, only knew him as a genie. I don't believe anyone will bring proof or evidence of this, somehow someway it will all be vanished...making me feel even more crazy. Then again,we could all be experiencing false memories..WHO KNOWS!

[NeedleThreader]

Thank you Octivus Prime, that is the cover I remember.

I am guessing that it was a bad selling movie, never got converted to DVD and thus was lost in the transition somewhere. Or maybe not.

[the_real_dave-id]

I'm beginning to believe that this Sinbad thing is a way for TPTB to cover up the Mandela Effect and try to control what the very term "Mandela Effect" itself means.

In the article linked by BMJ above (and here: http://www.snopes.com/did-sinbad-pla…movie-shazaam/) Snopes says: "It appears that this is another instance of  the "Mandela Effect" an informal term for a collective false memory."

It's not a term for false memory, but that's what Snopes wants readers to believe. It's a term for something we don't yet fully understand. While some of the examples of it may indeed be false memory, others are too uncanny, and almost impossible for me to believe that so many people have the very same false memory. It simply hasn't been investigated enough to claim that's all it is.

I think the Photoshopped Sinbad covers may be like all the other made up stories put out there to control the masses thoughts about any given thing. Like the "fake news" stories the MSM started circulating when the whole pizzagate thing hit.

And aren't Snopes the ones who will be deciding what is "fake news" or not for Facebook? The judges of what will be shoved to the bottom of the Facebook pile, or not be allowed to be seen at all? Here's an article from Mercola.com suggesting they may not be the best arbiter of truth: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/01/03/snopes-outed-unfit-arbiter-truth.aspx

And here's a little gem from Facebook telling you that "It takes under a minute to check Snopes - Think before you post."
Link: https://www.facebook.com/underaminute/

This clearly shows Facebook is trying to set Snopes up as an authority. The myth of authority is for me the disease of the unawakened.

Anyway, ranting aside, highlighting people faking a VHS cover, and giving it high visibility, is possibly a way to try get the people to think that the whole Mandela Effect is all just a lot of nonsense invented by hoaxers and convince those people to dismiss it entirely any time they hear about it in the future. Another "conspiracy theory."

I ain't buyin' it. I don't know what the Mandela Effect is exactly yet, but I'm not going to let Snopes or Facebook dictate the truth to me on it.

The person identified as the writer of the Snopes article is Dan Evon. At the bottom of the page his credentials are written thusly:


"Dan Evon is a Chicago-based writer and longtime truth enthusiast. His work has appeared somewhere, and he earned a degree at the University of His Choosing. His exploration of Internet truth has been supported by grants from the Facebook Drug Task Force."

Sure he's being "wacky" and "irreverent" but his funding comes from Facebook itself. It seems like he may be laughing at the readers rather than with them.

[BMJ]

I ain't buyin' it. I don't know what the Mandela Effect is exactly yet, but I'm not going to let Snopes or Facebook dictate the truth to me on it.

Good call the_real_dave-id

[skyflower]

I remember Shazaam. Never saw the movie, but I remember that title.
I am seeing way too many Mandela effects, so this doesn't shock me anymore.
I have asked so many people to spell Oscar M*yer, and they all spelled "mEyer" , singing the song. When I tell them it is spelled mAyer now, they just shrug it off. :(

[Bill Ryan]

.
Here's a REVIEW of the movie... which is pretty interesting to read: (And do read the comments, too...)

http://scaredstiffreviews.com/sinbad-shazam-genie-movie-film-review-the-movie-that-never-existed-but-i-cant-forget

Sinbad: Shazam Genie Movie – Film Review — The Movie That Never Existed but I Can’t Forget

After talking with a few of my movie-buff friends who are tearing their hair out and feeling insane while remembering the controversial film SHAZAM, I decided I’d put myself 100% out there. Somehow this film disappeared off the face of the earth so knowing I’ll be called a nut, I’ve decided to write what I remember because I saw this movie several times. It aired on TV, it was in video stores I worked at, and it was a fun little film.

The film starts with Sinbad (genie) in his lamp/man cave. There were purple curtains or blankets on the wall. A large round bed and a TV across from it. Sinbad saunters over, sits on the bed with two waiting female genies hanging out with him. Sinbad says, “let’s see what’s on TV” and turns it on via remote.

It zooms in as the opening credits roll on the TV. The song that played reminded me of the theme of THE ADDAMS FAMILY movie, but it wasn’t the same tune. I don’t recall hearing it on MTV or the radio, but if I heard it today, I’d know it.

Once the credits are over, the main family is moving in to a new house because the dad got a better job. The son (12ish) automatically doesn’t like his neighbor because the boy over there (7ish) sprayed him with a squirt gun and made a face. The next-door kid also played Teddy, Michelle’s friend on FULL HOUSE. The new kid (I’m going to just call him John from now on, because I don’t remember his name), is about to walk over when his little sister (7ish) says, “leave him alone. He’s just a baby.” I loved that line because she was roughly the same age and I thought it was cute.

John brings a box to the attic and there he finds THEE lamp. He takes it downstairs and puts it in his room without telling anyone.

John is a sassy and annoying kid who fights with his younger sister and complains his dad doesn’t care about him. I don’t know if I’m blocking the mother out or if this was just another child film where the mom is dead. When I think back, the father is difficult for me to pinpoint but it was an actor that’s been in other things. My gut tells me Sam Waterston, but he was in SERIAL MOM around the same time so I’m not 100% on that.

John rushes off mid-way thru dinner complaining about missing his school and his friends. Most of the stuff is still in boxes, so he picks up the lamp and dusts it off.

Sinbad emerges. He’s irritated and wants to go back in the lamp, but once he’s out he has no choice but to grant 3 wishes or he can’t get back in. At this point, the younger sis comes in and is about to scream when Sinbad covers her mouth. He says that he doesn’t want anyone else to see him because the more that do the more people he has to grant wishes to. (Never heard that genie rule before this film or after). I also don’t watch too many films about genies.

John’s first wish is to go back to his old-school with his old-friends. Sinbad makes John hold on to the lamp so they won’t lose it. They begin their journey when Barbara Eden (cameo) starts coming out of the lamp and calling out to Sinbad– horrible CGI effect. She’s pushed back in the lamp. (She shows up periodically, but just a few seconds here and there and then at the ending credits)

As Sinbad is walking his necklace and bracelets gets tangled. He throws his jewelry away and kid sister picks it up, puts it on and looks ridiculous. (another of my favorite scenes)

So the wishes are done SCROOGE style. At the school, John, his sister and Sinbad are unseen, but John sees his friends have gotten along fine without him and the girl he liked was with someone else. Sinbad asks if he wants the wish to be permanent. John says “no forget it.” Sinbad means to snap his fingers but says SHAZAM (I think that was the magic word and not Sinbad’s name in the film. Here, I may be wrong. I know it’s also a superhero’s magic word, but I think that’s what he said too.). After saying the magic word and screwing up it allows everyone to see them.

Sinbad yells “RUN.”

John yells at Sinbad calling him a horrible genie. Sinbad tells him it’s been awhile since he granted any wishes and to give him a break.

The next wish is for John’s dad to spend less time at work. They show up during of his dad’s conferences and (again invisible) mess with the pie charts. They floated and moved in a circular motion. The sister protests, scared that her dad will get in trouble, but it backfires and the boss thinks it’s a magic trick that made the meeting boring into entertaining.

The little sister’s first wish was that she was a fast runner because she couldn’t keep up when Sinbad and John were running. In a funny product placement scene, Sinbad walks in without being invisible and just buys her a pair of Nike Air running shoes. Not sure if it took place in an actual footlocker or it was a parody of a footlocker but the salesman had a referee-like TV shirt. Sinbad complained about the price. After that, she ran real fast.

The little sister’s second wish is for John to be happy. This really touches John and he hugs his sister and apologizes about being a jerk. He feels happy and thanks Sinbad who says that ‘he hadn’t done anything yet, but the wish still counts.” Another cute scene I liked.

On the way home, Sinbad keeps asking what their last wishes are. John sees Teddy (Michelle’s friend from Full House/neighbor) being picked on by bullies.

John looks at Sinbad, “I wish he had someone to protect him.”

Sinbad looks at Teddy and then at John, “I think he does.”

John asks “who?”

And the little sister says, “you, silly.”

John nodded and began walking over to the bullies. He stopped for a second and Sinbad smiled and said, “It still counts.”

John stands up for Teddy and gets rid of the bullies. Teddy apologizes for earlier and John tells him he should come over at some point to hang out.

Sinbad turns to the little sister and asks what her last wish is and she says “all the money.”

Sinbad laughs and says, “it’s about time one of you asked for that.”

“So where is it?”

“You can’t wish for money, kiddo. What else?”

She then wishes for Sinbad to come back and visit and he says he will. John returns and he gives them both a hug and goes back to the lamp.

The little sister goes upstairs and finds $50.00 under her pillow and yells “YES.”

John asks to talk to his dad and tells him that he misses him and wants to spend more time with him. His dad hugs him and promises to make time.

Back in the lamp, Sinbad is back on the bed with Barbara Eden and another genie watching himself to stand-up. He says “this guy’s pretty good” or ‘this guy’s good.”

Now for the controversy. I have no idea why people are denying the existence of this film. I certainly hope it isn’t this CERN/ MANDELA EFFECT conspiracy, I’ve heard.

That said, this movie definitely exists (existed) and somehow/someway no one has a copy of it. Sinbad states he never portrayed a genie other than hosting some marathon.

I believe in false memories. I believe people can repeat something enough where someone believes it, even if it isn’t real. That, isn’t this. This is a movie I’ve seen, I remember and was around until at least 2004. I broke my ankle then and was staying at my brother’s house and I remember watching it yet again there.

This disturbs me quite a bit. It would be like if all the footage and copies of THE BRADY BUNCH movie disappeared and Shelley Long swore she had never been in the film.

I’m hoping there’s a reasonable explanation. Maybe, Victor Salva or another known pedo was involved and they decided to destroy all copies. Maybe, there was some sort of lawsuit and the product needed to be wrecked. Maybe, Sinbad is a product of MK-Ultra, I don’t know!?!

I’d like a valid explanation and Sinbad doing a movie now called SHAZAM isn’t going to explain where this 90s film went.

Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to write what I recalled and share it with those interested.

[PurpleLama]

I wonder if we will ever have a Mandela effect in which the memories date to later than 2001.

[Bill Ryan]

I wonder if we will ever have a Mandela effect in which the memories date to later than 2001.

Well, I saw Moonraker (for the very first time) — in October 2014. I just checked the torrent download date.

Dolly (the cute, tiny, bespectacled, pigtailed, blonde girl who fell in love with 'Jaws' at the very end of the movie and transformed him) — had braces. ABSOLUTELY. I remember the very amusing little cinematic touch. (And so do tens of thousands of others.)

Now, the braces are not there. I just checked on the movie, that's been sitting there on my external disk the whole time.

It's changed. From the way it was, in my reality, only two years ago. (And that's why I remember it so very clearly.)

[Innocent Warrior]

Snopes says: "It appears that this is another instance of the "Mandela Effect" an informal term for a collective false memory."

It's not a term for false memory, but that's what Snopes wants readers to believe.

"Great spirits are always opposed by mediocre minds."
~ Albert Einstein

[Wind]

I wonder if we will ever have a Mandela effect in which the memories date to later than 2001.

Well, I saw Moonraker (for the very first time) — in October 2014. I just checked the torrent download date.

Dolly (the cute, tiny, bespectacled, pigtailed, blonde girl who fell in love with 'Jaws' at the very end of the movie and transformed him) — had braces. ABSOLUTELY. I remember the very amusing little cinematic touch. (And so do tens of thousands of others.)

Now, the braces are not there. I just checked on the movie, that's been sitting there on my external disk the whole time.

It's changed. From the way it was, in my reality, only two years ago. (And that's why I remember it so very clearly.)

Well, that is something!

After looking into the subject until now I dismissed the "Mandela effect" as a collective case of false memory syndrome. However...

As a fan I've seen all of the Bond movies several times over the years and Moonraker is one of my all time favorite old Bond movies since I always liked the more comical ones with Roger Moore, I even got Roger Moore's signature when he was around here many years ago. I can absolutely confirm that when I saw it, Jaws' girlfriend in the movie indeed had braces. I haven't touched my blu ray-collection which I bought years ago, but I will have to see it asap. I'm a highly visual person and remember some things quite well, can't I even trust my own memory now? That's so weird...

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[Bill Ryan]

can't I even trust my own memory now?

Yes, you can! It's reality you can't trust... :bigsmile:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I can absolutely confirm that when I saw it, Jaws' girlfriend in the movie indeed had braces.

Hm, that is very very strange. I remember those braces as well. Clearly!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

That's not even the right girl, she didn't have that enormous bust in the movie I remember, she was a lot younger, teenagerish - hence the big braces grin she wore. I'm trying to parse this out in my head as a false memory, but I can't get there: I was a big Bond fan as a kid and have watched Moonraker multiple times. I can visualize this scene and this girl vividly. The girl in the above utube clip does not match what I recall. For me personally this is the strangest, darnedest, yet most convincing aspect to the mandela effect yet. This is such a bizarre feeling.

If I went back in time 10 years, just for a few moments, and googled 'moonraker girl with braces', would the images come up be the ones I just saw, or the actual ones I remember!?

What the hell is going on

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The more I think about the scene, the less certain I become that the memory is real. I don't know where this sudden doubt comes from. But I have to ask and must consider: is it simply this which is creating a false memory:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a7/4f/de/a74fde7bcb1f50aae67bfed2015bb468.jpg

Is it some kind of mental disassociation, whereby the image of 'Jaws' and his mighty metal teeth gets somehow transferred to the girl? Could it be "memory conformity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_conformity)", also known as social contagion of memory? Wikipedia describes it as: a situation in which one person's report of a memory influences another person's report of that same experience.

On hearing others claim that the moonraker girl wore braces, some part of our minds may default to a mental image of the scene and automatically agree: because we are associating 'the moonraker girl' with Jaws - who is known for his metal teeth. Is this what is happening here?

One thing definitely real and observable with the mandela effect, it is a highly contagious phenomenon. Could it then be a trick of the mind/memory? Even false memories can be very persuasive when the power of suggestion is particularly strong, especially in the case of Jaws and his super-sized braces.

I am still open to the mandela effect. My mind is open to all things (in order to take on true knowledge, you have to have an open space for it to enter in) but one has to at least investigate plausible alternatives first.

Just asking the question.

[Akasha]

That female Jaw's admirer never had braces in my memory and that cleavage was firmly imprinted on my brain too when I saw the film on the big screen as an 8 year old.

Did Truthseekah start this thread under a pseudonym? He's all over the home page (http://mythicist.me/) of mythicist.me which hosted the article in the OP.

[Wind]

can't I even trust my own memory now?

Yes, you can! It's reality you can't trust... :bigsmile:

So what the heck might have happened to our reality then? : P

[Whiskey_Mystic]

What I remember is that the braces were part of the punchline shot at the end where Jaws and his girl were happy together. They both smile revealing their metal teeth. I remember that shot.

[Akasha]

I reckon the confusion is from the wire-rimmed spec's rather than wired teeth.

https://supposedlyfunblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jaws1.jpg

[seehas]

another one is in back to the future part 1, when doc sends marty into the future for the first time, the terrorists are coming ... in my reality this was a totaly different van.

when i saw it for the first time i was thinking "wow, it wasnt a cool surfers volkswagen bully in the last 50 times ive seen the movie"


this timeline van
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/b/b6/Libyanchase.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080320222211

the van i can remember

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bL56t0gt8sk/hqdefault.jpg

the funny thing here is that even in used car sited this toyota-van is sold as "the back to the future terrorist-van". http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/toyota/van/1984/

edit: im happy im not the only one seeing this kind of things here on PA :P

[IChingUChing]

Couldn't see the other Mandela Effect thread so hope ok to post here. There was/is all the discussion about Forest Gump and "Life is/was like a box of chocolates".

I also remember it being "Life is like a box of chocolates" although it seems it is now "Life was like a box of chocolates".

Checked what the dubbing is in German and was happy to see there at least it is stil "Life is like...."!

Here from

https://de.wikiquote.org/wiki/Forrest_Gump:


"Das Leben ist wie eine Schachtel Pralinen - man weiß nie was man kriegt."

» "Life is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get."

Halleluja!!!

p.s. I remember the braces on the girl in Moonraker and the Toyota van in Back to the Future. This is plain strange!

[IChingUChing]

This is intriguing:

From http://universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml

Dolly
Played by: Blanche Ravalec

Description: In perhaps the strangest love affair in the series, Jaws meets Dolly in Rio after his failed attempt on Bond and Goodhead's lives. The complete opposite of Jaws, Dolly is a short blond girl with pigtails, glasses and braces. It is her influence that leads Jaws to the side of good and she also hears the one line Jaws says in his two movies, "Well, here's to us."

However the photo on that website shows her without braces!

Photo without... text with.... curiouser and curiouser!

[42]

I wonder if we will ever have a Mandela effect in which the memories date to later than 2001.

Well, I saw Moonraker (for the very first time) — in October 2014. I just checked the torrent download date.

Dolly (the cute, tiny, bespectacled, pigtailed, blonde girl who fell in love with 'Jaws' at the very end of the movie and transformed him) — had braces. ABSOLUTELY. I remember the very amusing little cinematic touch. (And so do tens of thousands of others.)

Now, the braces are not there. I just checked on the movie, that's been sitting there on my external disk the whole time.

It's changed. From the way it was, in my reality, only two years ago. (And that's why I remember it so very clearly.)

Fortean Times has a whole thread on the subject. http://forum.forteantimes.com/index.php?threads/moonrakers-dolly-braces-or-not.61527/

Speaking as a survivor of the British dental service in the 60's, my braces self destructed after 2 years as well...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It really does get weirder and weirder, but I have consoled myself with satisfactorily busting one mandela effect, and one of the biggest of all, that in the beginning started to fuel this whole phenomenon. It is this one:

http://nowiknow.com/wp-content/uploads/luke_i_am_your_father.jpeg

"Luke, I am your father..."

Many swear blind that Vader said, "Luke, I am your father," not the actual line of "No, I am your father."

The first possible reason why people have misremembered this line, is down to context. When quoting 'movie lines', it is natural to add a non-existing detail to help identify the line, the persons involved, and the movie they are talking about. Another example is, "Play it again, Sam." (from Casablanca, instead of the actual: "You played it for her, you can play it for me. If she can stand it, I can. Play it!"

The reason perhaps isn't so much memory, but laziness. But one's mind can readily adapt (re-write) itself, particularly when associated with repetition, until quite literally a false memory is 'created'.

Secondly: take into account the preceding lines of dialogue in the scene between Vader and Luke - which leads up to this most famous line. No one in this mandela effect meme has ever questioned or doubted the initial proposition that took place prior to the revelation of Luke's real parentage. Here it is:

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"

Now let's add the line so many people believe followed this exchange. Read the whole thing.

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
Vader: "Luke, I am your father."

That does not fit in at all! It is not a natural line to say, it doesn't sound right, and actually ruins the scene. It always was, and always shall be:

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
Vader: "No...I am your father."

Going back to the first point about context. If someone asked you 'hey, what's your favourite line, or most memorable line from a movie?', and you thought of this one, it would be very natural to say 'Luke, I am your father,' simply because without inserting the identifier of 'Luke' in the quote, it's likely they wouldn't know what movie or what scene you were talking about. 'Luke' adds context, where, in this instance of making a random quote, context and identification is needed.

I think the Vader/Luke mandela effect is not a valid one, and all down to misinterpretation, which has spawned a kind of verbal myth. And there are many others. ("Beam me up Scotty" was never said either, but has become a kind of 'buzzphrase', because it carries an obvious context immediately identifying it to Star Trek, has an amusing quirk all of its own, and is a lot easier to say than "transporter room, five to beam aboard."

[triquetra]

If it's any help, in the other timeline thread, the Shaq/Kazaam movie was the one that did not exist. The differences in these "let's show the swap in a fun way, as a friendly gesture" crossovers the differences are trivial and somewhat amusing, besides being symmetric. Berenstein or Berenstain both served the role of teaching kids morals, Shazaam and Kazaam served the role of a typical early-mid 90s kids movie. There would not be a need for both.

For anyone remembering a kind of hybrid of the two realities, that group is in a more interesting category, the crossover category.

Think of the threads of the timelines as a kind of Venn diagram. For there to be a crossover these timelines need to not just touch, but to overlap. Depending on how things worked out in your case, you might remember only the reality of one, only the other, or elements of both.

It's hard to put into words to justice, but the takeaway is there's no need to attribute dark explanations behind why the swaps are happening. They are happening for a good reason and you can read into that by the lighthearted nature of what the differences are.