Law of Attraction vs Seeking the truth

[TinFoilSuit]

Greetings!

As you can probably gather, I am new to this forum. Like many others I'm sure, I arrived at a soul shaking realization (about 4 yrs ago) that 'things' were not at all what they appeared. This has given rise to an unquenchable thirst to discover the truth. I continue to spend countless hours of precious time trying to solve the riddles of numerous topics (politics, history, health, spirituality etc), from the relatively new vantage point of a conspiracy minded seeker. Certainly, my journey has brought on a fair share of initial depression, dismay, confusion, anger, fear etc. At the same time, I have also made a number of wonderful 'discoveries' that have positively impacted my life. Perhaps I feel some sort of civic duty to constantly keep tabs on what 'they' are up to next. Of course, I do have selfish aims in that I wish to protect my family and friends as well. In any case, I refuse to quit 'digging.' But it is difficult to stay positive during this everlasting search. So my question is straight forward:

If the Law of Attraction has any merit (I'm still undecided on this), then how do I balance this with my insatiable desire to get at the truth? If I am constantly trying to sleuth out conspiracies (which are negative by nature), isn't it possible that I am attracting negative outcomes in my life? I imagine this is a common conundrum for many zealous truth seekers.

One last point: Although I consider myself fairly open minded, I found 'The Secret' movie/book highly suspicious - anything that is celebrated and pushed by the mainstream media (i.e. Oprah) tends to put me on high alert. To me, the message seemed to be "don't think about bad things (e.g. any men behind the curtain) and just focus on happy things - like money."

I'd love to hear all your thoughts.

Peace & love,

TFS

[sunwings]

Welcome Tin Foil Suit!

A fascinating question which I am sure we have all thought about. Truth holds the highest vibration! Unfortunately the route to the truth can be difficult and negative.

You are not alone with these thoughts but hopefully after joining Avalon you will find some wonderful insights hidden inside the threads.

Start here for example

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71935-Well-I-Too-Am-Tired-Of-This-F-cking-Sh-t-

[shaberon]

If anything, the difference is in what it means to you mentally.

So if you are feeding paranoia, then yes, the trouble would be that you are paranoid, and that will suck a person down a self-created whirlpool. That will happen whether you study bad news or not. Using a term like "constantly" would make me question the balance (and that would be with respect to a variety of behaviors).

If not, then no, it doesn't make any difference. "Just focus on happy things" is some candy for the emotionally weak, and, of course, lets conspiracies (or whatever) run unchecked. Pretty much the purpose of Disney magic. It's almost backwards, because, if I hope to have happy fluffy things all the time, then I am afraid of losing them. With no such expectation, one becomes care free.

[Anchor]

This has given rise to an unquenchable thirst to discover the truth. I continue to spend countless hours of precious time trying to solve the riddles of numerous topics (politics, history, health, spirituality etc), from the relatively new vantage point of a conspiracy minded seeker. Certainly, my journey has brought on a fair share of initial depression, dismay, confusion, anger, fear etc.

Yes, this happened to me too. I saw it written on this forum that "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off". Once you get past that its time to help with other people who go through this phase.


If the Law of Attraction has any merit (I'm still undecided on this), then how do I balance this with my insatiable desire to get at the truth?

What is there to balance? The Law Of Attraction is simply that, a law. You have no control over it. Your insatiable desire to get at the truth is something most awakening incarnates share and the degree to which you indulge in it is under your control and it is what makes you do the things you do.


If I am constantly trying to sleuth out conspiracies (which are negative by nature), isn't it possible that I am attracting negative outcomes in my life? I imagine this is a common conundrum for many zealous truth seekers.

It is always possible, but I think the negative outcomes are very much conditional on negative intent, and by negative, I mean the intent to serve the self rather than others - say for example studying the occult to gain power for oneself, as opposed to studying the occult to simply understand the way things work in that realm.

For me it comes down to a choice to serve the self at the expense of others, or serve others at the expense of no-one. If you choose to serve others then your loving intent will see you right.

[Lifebringer]

From what I'm gathering we are to focus on how we want our world, future for children/generation and put our minds, hearts and physical strength to rebuild after the celestial alignment gauntlet of survival, to come.
We are the rebuilders after "this too shall pass." However man's idea of happiness through materialism and sex, hasn't worked out too well, has it? Such baser "needs" really have nothing to do with whats really going on around us/in our lives, do they. We are coming out from under the veiled forgetful dark beginnings of the evil that ruled this planet for centuries.
Survive "remnant and prepare your house/hearts.

[betoobig]

Wellcome to Avalon TinFoilSuit... your questions and path is the usual one, but now you question it so you are going out of fase one (fear, paranoid, etc..). When you talk about the negative things, or digg on it, there is one sentence that helped me to be sure not to atract them: "do care but dont concern" thus putting your focus, as a cocreator that you are, in what you really want for family, friends and the world. Plus you´ll get to a point where no judgments are made thus all is good. I bet you will spend less time researching as you will get to important things faster...and come out "clean", using the free time to love your beloved ones. The seek never stops as the path never stops...meaning you´ll forget about any "end of the path" point, instead you´ll just enjoy the seek itself, the path itself.
About the Secret (Law of attraction) i do think there is much missing, as usual, part of the truth but incomplete or twisted... in a selfish way IMO.
Our real power is cocreate, all toguether, colectivly...unstopables, unstopable as we are truely One.
Be kind no matter what and remember that it is time to for-give and not for-get....unselfishly.
Looking forward to interact with you.
Much love

[RedSun88]

Hello TinFoilSuit,

In terms of the law of attraction, my understanding is that it is primarily driven by what our subconscious is resonating with, and as such the mechanism as a whole serves the purpose of bringing our subconscious to light.

Just a passing thought; have you visited the site of Miles Mathis before? I have found it to be quite illuminating recently.

http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html

All the best,
Art

[Foxie Loxie]

Welcome, TinFoilSuit! Not knowing exactly where you are in your journey, I'll give the same advice I always do. :blushing: A good basis to build upon is viewing all the Bill & Kerry videos from the beginning...like 2006 onward. A lot of amazing things were discovered on their journey together; worth knowing about! Enjoy The Journey! :waving:

[Miaspri]

Thank you for posting this! Exactly how I've been feeling. I've been rereading books such as The Secret and working on my personal law of attraction. I surround myself daily with the white light of protection and healing with reflective gold and silver flakes. Yet at times it's difficult with all the negativity.

[TinFoilSuit]

Thank you! I am so grateful to have found this community. It was getting so very frustrating seeing the looks of either disinterest or disbelief on the faces of any friends and family with whom I might cautiously engage on such topics. It is truly amazing how dismissive people can be when a given topic does not fit within their thought systems. What I realized is that we are simply at different stages in our own personal journeys. But good grief, it sure can make for a lonely path at first. I sometimes wish I had not ventured out of my warm cocoon of denial.

And yes, RedSun88 - Miles Mathis' work has been quite an eye opener for me. Although it appears his ego and anger occasionally muddy the waters, the bulk of the evidence he compiles is undeniably compelling. Being a bit of a hobby historian, his material has been right up my alley. I particularly enjoyed his essays on Lennon, the Trinity/Bikini Tests, Salem Witch Trials, and the Tate 'Murders.'

Another writer I enjoy is Ken from RedefiningGod. Although his 'predictions' have been less than accurate, I do feel his heart is in the right place.

As for the LOA, I'm comforted by all your responses. I admit, my initial digging came from a place of despair and desperation. But I can honestly say now that fascination and curiosity have well overtaken the aforementioned emotions. I hope to soon be able to share some of the things I have learned during my relatively short adventure thus far. Being both cursed and blessed with adult ADD, I have found that my ever wandering mind has provided me with a multitude of 'dots' between which I have been able to connect and ultimately draw insight from.

Any other recommended sources would be very much appreciated. I've run the through the gamut with DailySheeple, BeforeItsNews, Info Wars, Vets Today, Zero Hedge and even Wiki Leaks - while I'm sure some truths can certainly be gleaned from these sites, all of them smell like 'controlled opposition' to me. And boy howdy, talk about negative!

Cheers!

TFS

[sheme]

You are right , you are in charge of your destiny, create the world you wish you and your family to inhabit , Make it so- what you create in your conscious is your reality. You have free will.. Think a beautiful world and give it life.

[betoobig]

Please check www.bibliotecapleyades.net , i bet you´ve done it allready.
Much love

[WhiteLove]

Greetings!

As you can probably gather, I am new to this forum. Like many others I'm sure, I arrived at a soul shaking realization (about 4 yrs ago) that 'things' were not at all what they appeared. This has given rise to an unquenchable thirst to discover the truth. I continue to spend countless hours of precious time trying to solve the riddles of numerous topics (politics, history, health, spirituality etc), from the relatively new vantage point of a conspiracy minded seeker. Certainly, my journey has brought on a fair share of initial depression, dismay, confusion, anger, fear etc. At the same time, I have also made a number of wonderful 'discoveries' that have positively impacted my life. Perhaps I feel some sort of civic duty to constantly keep tabs on what 'they' are up to next. Of course, I do have selfish aims in that I wish to protect my family and friends as well. In any case, I refuse to quit 'digging.' But it is difficult to stay positive during this everlasting search. So my question is straight forward:

If the Law of Attraction has any merit (I'm still undecided on this), then how do I balance this with my insatiable desire to get at the truth? If I am constantly trying to sleuth out conspiracies (which are negative by nature), isn't it possible that I am attracting negative outcomes in my life? I imagine this is a common conundrum for many zealous truth seekers.

One last point: Although I consider myself fairly open minded, I found 'The Secret' movie/book highly suspicious - anything that is celebrated and pushed by the mainstream media (i.e. Oprah) tends to put me on high alert. To me, the message seemed to be "don't think about bad things (e.g. any men behind the curtain) and just focus on happy things - like money."

I'd love to hear all your thoughts.

Peace & love,

TFS

The Bible has some facts on this one...

"Matthew 7:13-14 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

The narrow road leads to life.

From the point of view that nothing is the way you think it is, from the point of view that you have been formed by society ever since your birth, from the point of view that others around you depend on your level of truth and from the point of view that you have a chance to evolve, then peace, love and truth become significant enough for you to choose a path that builds up vital energy for yourself and others. Part of that process is to be friends with truth and to be critical to what is being presented to you as fact, because it may or may not be deceptive and it may or may not be good to you and those around you. Truth is steady, it provides focus, it nurtures who you and others truly are and it desires good for you and others. As a being you are hence a carrier and channel of some degree of truth.

When you decide to go into sleep mode it is similar to handing over the remote control to some random other being who may or may not care about you. It is more wise to let truth control you, because it has peace in store for you and people on earth. The narrow gate brings all the fruits of truth.

[Gillian]

Until otherwise proven, I decided and this is through personal experience, that the law of attraction only works if I am attracting something I am meant to have. If I try to attract something that isn't in my soul contract, I am probably wasting my time.

Kevin Moore, on the other hand, has been having great success with law of attraction and swears by it.

Meanwhile, I am contented to seek the truth.

[shaberon]

Any other recommended sources would be very much appreciated. I've run the through the gamut with DailySheeple, BeforeItsNews, Info Wars, Vets Today, Zero Hedge and even Wiki Leaks - while I'm sure some truths can certainly be gleaned from these sites, all of them smell like 'controlled opposition' to me. And boy howdy, talk about negative!


You are pretty correct in that assessment.

In terms of daily news there are a few places, but specifically for the overall scene of political conspiracies, I was impressed by the Institute for the Study of Globalism and Covert Politics https://isgp-studies.com/

It's extremely dense and thorough, and created for exactly that reason (90%+ of what's out there is controlled by someone). After getting the gist of what he is saying, you will never use the term NWO again, let's put it that way. Saves you ten years of wading through dodginess.

I don't agree with his "Atlantis denial", but that is a small irrelevant section there. Most everything else fits like a pair of socks.

[AutumnW]

I feel the Law of Attraction, as defined by The Secret, is based largely on greed. The Law of Attraction works well in purely mental space, when people are seeking the truth, deeper understanding. The more pure the desire to transcend the base self in pursuit of knowledge, love, understanding, the more it is likely to work.

It is incompatible with the pursuit of power and material possessions. Any gains accrued, above and beyond basic needs will likely backfire. It is beyond creepy to use esoteric means to advance materially. And those in 'the Secret' who preach we have to get past our 'scarcity mentality' should focus on manifesting a round trip ticket to Bombay with a home stay inside a hovel of their choice, where they can pour over population statistics.

[Rich]

Law of attraction is based on the belief that something we want is seperate from us, no?! Attracting something that we want because we dont have it is a lacking belief. And if we see it that way we will experience it accordingly.