Are Women Superior to Men??

[AutumnW]

Just thought I would leave it open ended. Please discuss!:clapping:

[OMG]

No, and vice versa.

Our reality/universe clearly shows the interaction of both polarities as equally relevant in all things. It's a macrocosmic/microcosmic paradigm and relates to gender as well.

Cheers
:)

[Sunny-side-up]

Well physically they look better :)

Supposedly they are a better design for flying fighter planes.

And what OMG said.

[AutumnW]

Yes!

Why do you ask?

Be more specific, please. Why do you think this.

[Antihero]

Lol, this thread.

[amor]

I will be diplomatic and pass. Hello Autumn.

[sheme]

Complementary - this is what men and women should be - The ptw have done every thing they can to destroy our relationship you can see this if you look and listen.

[Gillian]

Nobody is superior to anybody else. We each have our strengths and the only flaw is that many of us don't know how to play to them. Having referred to not playing to our strengths as a flaw, it might be better to suggest that we have been conditioned or programmed not to.

My daughter had to write an essay for her home school social studies class, about racial prejudice. I helped her by suggesting she use horses as an analogy. For example, some horses are heavy draft breeds and some are elegant light models. If one wants to plow a field, a beautiful elegant horse is useless. If one needs to outrun an army, a heavy draft horse is useless. I remember reading that English Thoroughbreds were useless in the Scottish Highlands were Highland Ponies with stout strong legs were brilliant at negotiating the terrain, thus giving the Scots quite an advantage over the English. This essay was given a top honour and widely published in home schooling journals. People with darker skin are highly adapted, naturally, to living in sunny climates. They even develop sickle cells to help handle malaria. Lighter skin doesn't do so well when exposed to equatorial sunshine for extended periods of time. So how can one say that one is better than the other?

I am trying to show that no individual is better or worse. If one really wants to make comparisons, in my experience, young children are vastly superior (more evolved) to the majority of adults. And we really should be learning to work as a team: Team Humanity.

[Clear Light]

34794

Oh, .................. :wink:

[Franny]

I've been seeing a lot of "women hating men" and "men hating women" memes lately. Sometimes the depth and breadth of the hatred and revulsion is scary.

But there's nothing like divide and rule of the clueless to keep multiple wars going on as many fronts as can be devised. It's been a very useful weapon against us.

So, no, women are not superior to men or vice versa.

However, fresh brewed coffee is superior to freeze dried :)

[Daughter of Time]

Kind of like asking if oranges are superior to apples.

[Deega]

Both polarity are indispensable one to the other, each has it different forces and weaknesses, this Tread is divisive, we don't need that!, what are we to proved?

[Orph]

At cooking and housecleaning? :bolt:
:lol:

[AutumnW]

Thanks all. Just thought I'd ask:handshake:

[TargeT]

Both polarity are indispensable one to the other, each has it different forces and weaknesses, this Tread is divisive, we don't need that!, what are we to proved?

How is it divisive?

I very rarely (never?)find a question that shouldn't be asked.


Currently, this is a topic that is "out there", we have major 3rd wave feminism movements that have a strong opinion on it and even now I think there's a men's rights group as well?

I see it as an obvious injected confrontation, a divide and conquer move. But either way, worthy of discussion.

[rgray222]

Simply by asking the question you have provided the definitive answer.

[Gillian]

Both polarity are indispensable one to the other, each has it different forces and weaknesses, this Tread is divisive, we don't need that!, what are we to proved?

How is it divisive?

I very rarely (never?)find a question that shouldn't be asked.


Currently, this is a topic that is "out there", we have major 3rd wave feminism movements that have a strong opinion on it and even now I think there's a men's rights group as well?

I see it as an obvious injected confrontation, a divide and conquer move. But either way, worthy of discussion.

It seems to me that both Men's and Women's movements have caused a lot of misunderstanding, emotional pain, degradation, and even hatred. As I said above, I think we need Team Humanity.

[shaberon]

Well, overall, not really, in kind of the same way I would say a human is not superior to a bacterium.

In general, however, females often have a steadier nervous system, which means they make excellent snipers. This probably has a mental equivalent that if they decide to concentrate on something in their "mind's eye", on the whole they can compose a more stable image than a man can. So I see no problem with respect to certain things, that, statistically, women can usually make better marks than men; by the same token, in other fields, they would typically score worse.

[AutumnW]

Simply by asking the question you have provided the definitive answer.

That's kind of cryptic. What do you mean?:bowing:

[AutumnW]

I will be diplomatic and pass. Hello Autumn.

Hello Amor. How are you today?

[DeDukshyn]

"Superior" is a completely ineffective metric, so the question is loaded - intrinsically.

A better way to put the question might be "Are women more effective than men?" - then one would have to ask "effective at what?" and break down a list of items and compare average effectiveness across various areas.

What I have thought is that men and women don't really differ - except physiologically and culturally, obviously. Physiologically it is pretty much merely the different hormonal expressions, and those results (body structure / function, tendencies toward particular emotions / lack of); culturally makes up the rest - and it is quite a lot. The bulk of noted differences between male and female humans is perceptual.

I have met plenty of "tough" women who have strength to weight ratios equaling or exceeding most men and I have seen it vice versa quite often as well; it might be good to consider that most physically "strong" women might choose to hide that quality, and most physically "weaker" men might also choose to hide that quality, skewing even the perceived results.

I think that might go for all other areas, besides physical strength,; so I don't think we are as different as our cultures lead us to believe ...

[ghostrider]

Men and women are equal , one is not over the other... they are yin yang , both make the circle of life complete as creation intended ... In the eye of creation human beings are all the same no matter what planet they are born on , or what galaxy they reside in , they absorb knowledge from every angle and perspective to bring that knowledge back to creation making sure future galaxies are the more fantastic and beautiful ...

[TargeT]

In general, however, females often have a steadier nervous system, which means they make excellent snipers. This probably has a mental equivalent that if they decide to concentrate on something in their "mind's eye", on the whole they can compose a more stable image than a man can. So I see no problem with respect to certain things, that, statistically, women can usually make better marks than men; by the same token, in other fields, they would typically score worse.

That's because a testosterone influenced adrenal system is FAR more effective (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17611905) and active when compared to an estrogen influenced adrenal system, nothing to do with mental acuity, a LOT to do with survival and the hunter gather life style we existed in for probably quite a while (or, alternate theory, the gene stock we were mixed with lived long in that style).

When your in a combat situation, it's very hard to not have an adrenal reaction.


Women score higher in any topic (https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-a0036620.pdf) they are interested in.

Males score slightly better in sciences and maths, but still below females.

That's certainly a difference that should be noted, however; motivation varies and many women are not willing to forgo family for career.



What I have thought is that men and women don't really differ - except physiologically and culturally, obviously.

I'm not so sure that a testosterone influenced mind and an estrogen influenced mind... The women that I've known that are stronger & act more masculine seemed to think in a more male way as well.

Plus women clearly can be better scholars.

The "sex" hormones are very strong, I can see a mental difference, and I'm sure I've noticed one in my life.

[Satori]

But of course. It goes without saying (or in this case asking). But seriously, which is superior: A cat or a dog? A flower or a tree? Sugar or salt?

[Innocent Warrior]

Well physically they look better :)

For a while anyway.

http://img.memey.com/1/3/funny-men-vs-women-aging.jpg

This one's for Orph.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/28/83/2f/28832fb23565a307880ed9037f862383.jpg

[Daozen]

I heard it said once that if women ran the world, there would be no war... but there'd never be any peace.







:p

[TargeT]

Well physically they look better :)

For a while anyway.

http://img.memey.com/1/3/funny-men-vs-women-aging.jpg


Men have nothing like menopause... Our Testosterone production in general does decline, but I'm SURE little-shoes up there is taking T. replacements... the "sex" hormones are like a taste of the fountain of youth for those suffering from the older illness. (http://reason.com/archives/2016/12/02/time-to-declare-aging-a-disease-and-get) But with the tech we have coming, I dunno, living to 400 could be viable very soon, if not longer.


This woman is 62 ;)
http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/christie-brinkley-at-siriusxm-studios-in-new-york-city-november-2015_1.jpg

[Spellbound]

NINE WORDS WOMEN USE...

(1) Fine : This is the word women use to end an argument when they are
right and you need to shut up.

(2) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an
hour.. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given
five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

(3) Nothing : This is the calm before the storm. This means
something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with
nothing usually end in fine.

(4) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

(5) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement
often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an
idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and
arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of
nothing.)

(6) That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women
can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard
before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

(7) Thanks : A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just
say you're welcome. (I want to add in a clause here - This is true,
unless she says 'Thanks a lot' - that is PURE sarcasm and she is not
thanking you at all. DO NOT say 'you're welcome'.. That will bring on
a 'whatever').

(8) Whatever : Is a woman's way of saying...Go to Hell...

(9) Don't worry about it, I'll do it:Another dangerous statement,
meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several
times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man
asking 'What's wrong?' For the woman's response refer to # 3..

Send this to the men you know, to warn them about arguments they can
avoid if they remember the terminology.

Send this to all the women you know to give them a good laugh, cause
they know it's true!!!

Dave - Toronto

[shaberon]

When your in a combat situation, it's very hard to not have an adrenal reaction.


Women score higher in any topic (https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-a0036620.pdf) they are interested in.


Can't knock the adrenal thing, although sniping is a lot more like hunting than combat--hence women could be doing better on a range, but maybe not when someone tries to bayonet them.

And to say, they are doing better in something that interests them, yes, that's how I perceive their mode of concentration. A man likely deals better with a hundred different kinds of random stress, a woman better able to focus when undisturbed.

[DeDukshyn]

But of course. It goes without saying (or in this case asking). But seriously, which is superior: A cat or a dog? A flower or a tree? Sugar or salt?

Cat Tree Salt. Any questions? :P

[guyres]

In a sense yes with parthenogenesis they don't really need man to reproduce...

[Innocent Warrior]

In a sense yes with parthenogenesis they don't really need man to reproduce...

Yeah but I'm pretty sure we can only reproduce females that way, that's no fun.

[Orph]

Equals. Life is life. All is equal. That's honestly how I feel. There is no "superior". Sure, you, (all of you reading this), are going to be better at some things than me. And perhaps there may be a thing or two that I'm better at doing than you. So what? That does not mean that you are superior to me, nor am I superior to you. We're just simply different. We're each just exploring this physical life in our own way. And that way is unique to us as individuals.

In talking about superiority, you have to set up parameters of what you mean by superior. Is physical strength? Is it compassion? Intellect? Intuition? (Cooking and cleaning? :haha: ). Whatever parameters you set up are simply artificial constructs. You can set up one set of parameters and say that "these parameters make me superior". So what. I can set up another set of parameters and say that "This is what make's me superior".

When it's all said and done, it's simply an opinion. And every persons opinion is equally valid, because that is the way that each of us perceives our own universe.
:grouphug:

[TargeT]

Can't knock the adrenal thing, although sniping is a lot more like hunting than combat-

I ran commo for a LRS team (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Surveillance) for 4 years, never deployed with them, but even in our OPFOR exercises (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposing_force) (and we were ALWAYS OPFOR ;) ) you got pretty damn amped... haha, no way in hell we were getting caught or shot when we were on OPFOR, that's the ultimate embarrassment.

And when deployed I put sights on bad guys many times, usually from pretty far away (I'm comms after all,) its hard to call it anything but exciting.


Equals.

That's kind of misleading though & perhaps a part of the problem, we should celebrate our differences; but not try to force equality.

I weigh 215lbs, there's no way my wife could pull me out of a burning vehicle. She weighs 110lbs, I could probably pull her out of a vehicle with a broken leg and broken arm.

OH, and she's given birth to 5 children (on top of everything else!)... I can't even think of a comparative analogy, I got nothing on that.


So I don't like "equal", though I do like your sentiment.

I'll go with this "equally important" or "Equally valid", I'm comfortable with that :)

[shaberon]

Well, on the military thing, I've been watching two active examples: the Peshmerga, who deploy women to front lines, especially due to the Takfiri belief that if they are killed by a woman, they go to hell, and plus, those ladies are as brave and dedicated as anyone could be.

By comparison, the Syrian Arab Army uses them almost exclusively for snipers, due to their above-average performance. Wait and watch the victim for four hours or more, and make one shot count.

Ultimately, I don't think there is much of a thing as combat training--either someone is trying to kill you with everything they've got, or not. So, although Norwegian women are entering the armed forces in co-ed barracks, I would have a hard time comparing them to the women of Peshmerga who get maybe three months' training and then face death until the threat is gone (which it's not). They're all volunteers, and no small minority but maybe a good 30% of the troops.

[Ashy67]

The answer to this question is YES if you know what's good for you!!!! Ha ha

[Charles Harris]

At cooking and housecleaning? :bolt:
:lol:
I would argue that men are the better cooks.:highfive:

[waves]

I wonder if superior should be changed to evolved. A word that's still subject to opinion and interpretation, but there sure are major overriding facts with miniscule exceptions and maybe that's what you more meant in your OP.

I suspect the level of soul/human evolvement is closely tied to the handling of the incredibly strong and frequently overpowering human challenges of power, violence and sex.

In all of history, how many times have troops of 1000's of women organized themselves to barge into a country, town or peaceful settlement to destroy all it's buildings and means of existence, and kill other women and children or leave them bleeding, wounded and suffering with absolutely no conscience or regret for some supposedly righteous cause?

In all of history, how many women have been in top political power at all, let alone in a rich country and diverted the bulk of income resources to means of destruction guns, tanks, planes, ships, bases, recruitment, salaries for warmongering and killing with their power? How many men haven't?

What is the percentage comparison of women to men in terms of obsession with their genitals, relentless impersonal getting off, porn, using prostitutes, the commission of sex crimes and a lifelong emotional detachment from what should be a deeply connected human act?

Those are the super-simplified basic examples, but some girlfriends and I have had numerous conversations wondering if a soul can only embody a woman after evolving from many lifetimes as a man and conquering these overwhelming urges and challenges, seeing their fallacy and finally becoming strong enough to not allow them to rule their human existence.

[Chester]

Well, I think women are far more superior because, IMO, if the world was not at least "a four crazy," it would be massively boring...

Note 16 million views and climbing

hKWmFWRVLlU


ohhhh and the Hot Crazy matrix used by women is quite practical. So they are smarter too.

[AutumnW]

I wonder if superior should be changed to evolved. A word that's still subject to opinion and interpretation, but there sure are major overriding facts with miniscule exceptions and maybe that's what you more meant in your OP.

I suspect the level of soul/human evolvement is closely tied to the handling of the incredibly strong and frequently overpowering human challenges of power, violence and sex.

In all of history, how many times have troops of 1000's of women organized themselves to barge into a country, town or peaceful settlement to destroy all it's buildings and means of existence, and kill other women and children or leave them bleeding, wounded and suffering with absolutely no conscience or regret for some supposedly righteous cause?
.

Madelaine Albright, Hillary Clinton, Margaret Thatcher?

[Spellbound]

Well, I think women are far more superior because, IMO, if the world was not at least "a four crazy," it would be massively boring...

Note 16 million views and climbing

hKWmFWRVLlU


ohhhh and the Hot Crazy matrix used by women is quite practical. So they are smarter too.

Haha...I've seen this before. Good for a laugh. Gotta find me a unicorn!!

Dave - Toronto

[Orph]

Equals.

That's kind of misleading though & perhaps a part of the problem, we should celebrate our differences; but not try to force equality.

I'll go with this "equally important" or "Equally valid", I'm comfortable with that :)I agree. I think this is a better way to word it than just "equal".

[waves]

I wonder if superior should be changed to evolved. A word that's still subject to opinion and interpretation, but there sure are major overriding facts with miniscule exceptions and maybe that's what you more meant in your OP.

I suspect the level of soul/human evolvement is closely tied to the handling of the incredibly strong and frequently overpowering human challenges of power, violence and sex.

In all of history, how many times have troops of 1000's of women organized themselves to barge into a country, town or peaceful settlement to destroy all it's buildings and means of existence, and kill other women and children or leave them bleeding, wounded and suffering with absolutely no conscience or regret for some supposedly righteous cause?
.

Madelaine Albright, Hillary Clinton, Margaret Thatcher?

I acknowledged the existence of exceptions up front, and tho they're in our modern history faces these witches are just blips in the historical timeline, and the percentages still stand of being lopsided to the furthest corners of extreme when adding up all of written history and I think that implies something significant.

[Red Skywalker]

It depends on the skills of the operator:


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[NancyV]

Well, I think women are far more superior because, IMO, if the world was not at least "a four crazy," it would be massively boring...

Note 16 million views and climbing

hKWmFWRVLlU


ohhhh and the Hot Crazy matrix used by women is quite practical. So they are smarter too.

Sorry, Sam, you're a LOT smarter than most of the women I know!

[dawnawakeningfreespirit]

Well, I think women are far more superior because, IMO, if the world was not at least "a four crazy," it would be massively boring...

Note 16 million views and climbing

hKWmFWRVLlU


ohhhh and the Hot Crazy matrix used by women is quite practical. So they are smarter too.

Just when you think you have seen it all... I don't know to laugh or cry!

[Charles Harris]

Our Inequalities make us equal. " Every person is worth as much as the next"

¤=[Post Update]=¤

To put it more simply,"Yes".

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Just thought I would leave it open ended. Please discuss!:clapping:

In very general terms, at some things, yes. In very general terms, at other things, no.

That's what I honestly think though I realize I'm very stupid for saying so. The "correct" answer from any man is supposed to be, "Of course they are, honey." :inlove:


For example, men are better at peeing standing up. Try to find any woman who can pee with any accuracy at a distance of even 3 feet away. You may be able to find one but it will be the exception that proves the rule. Men are just better at peeing standing up and it's for physiological/anatomical reasons.

On the other hand, women are better at breastfeeding. Believe it or not there are cases of men who have lactated. At least that's what I saw on the Discovery Channel several years ago, on some TV show about hermaphrodites and other oddities of nature. But again that'll be the exception that proves the rule. And again it's because of physiology. :P


When we go beyond coarse physical differences to things like difference balances of hormones in the brain, and psychological differences, then it gets really interesting. The best research I've seen from psychologists, like in peer-reviewed studies, seems to indicate that women are better at analyzing social interactions, reading faces and body language, being able to empathize and care for people, etc., while men are better at paying attention to things at a distance, thinking in "colder," more abstract terms and separating themselves from their feelings. Evolutionists draw the obvious conclusion that this all evolved to divide up tribal roles so that women could nurture the next generation while men hunted animals and fought in wars.

I'm not much of an evolutionist but I can see how that makes a lot of sense on some level anyway.

[take]

"Women" and "Men".
If OP's question is genuine, and not humoristic (as I assume), then it is a loaded question.
But seriously, yes, at least their bodies, at least in one respect. Women give birth to LIFE. That is amazing.

[Rich]

I think the only measurement of superiority is happiness, since that is what everyone wants.
I assume we are equally happy in reality, only in the dream there are some suffering more, others less, depending on how much we accept reality.

[Daughter of Time]

I think women are foolish to pretend they are equal to men. They are far superior and always have been.

Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater.

If you give her sperm, she will give you a baby.

If you give her a house, she will give you a home.

If you give her groceries, she will give you a meal.

If you give her a smile, she will give you her heart.

She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.

So, if you give her any crap, be ready to receive a ton of s--t!

William Golding
British Novelist, Playwright and poet
1911 - 1993

[Flash]

i agree with you Red Skywalker, women just have many more switches, all around: brain, body, emotions, name it. Does that makes them superior? up to you to decide.

However, one place women are TRULY SUPERIOR is in their orgasmic abilities. Not only can they have multiple orgasms, with more than one genital organ (multiple switches), when they have orgasms, THEIR WHOLE BRAIN reacts, WHILE ONLY A TINY PART OF THE MAN BRAIN reacts (by shutting off for both, resulting in more relaxation and sensations in women). TALK ABOUT REAL JOYFILLED SUPERIORITY!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSOFtSG6nDo

OK, I admit, I may have overstated the differences. lollllll



It depends on the skills of the operator:


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[bluestflame]

OP is really a loaded question , what's one without the other ?

[A Voice from the Mountains]

However, one place women are TRULY SUPERIOR is in their orgasmic abilities. Not only can they have multiple orgasms, with more than one genital organ (multiple switches), when they have orgasms, THEIR WHOLE BRAIN reacts, WHILE ONLY A TINY PART OF THE MAN BRAIN reacts (by shutting off for both, resulting in more relaxation and sensations in women). TALK ABOUT REAL JOYFILLED SUPERIORITY!!!

And yet it's always men who are single-minded about getting somebody in the sack. How does that work?