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Justplain
12th January 2017, 18:33
Here's a novel idea: the new UN Chief says the UN needs to do a better job at preventing wars (the problem is most wars are being started by western funded mercenaries for resource control by their clients):
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lucidity
12th January 2017, 18:52
Here's a novel idea: the new UN Chief says the UN needs to do a better job at preventing wars (the problem is most wars are being started by western funded mercenaries for resource control by their clients):
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"...western funded mercenaries... " sounds like code for the CIA funding, training, arming and equipping of Al-Qaeda and ISIS,
and... the Israeli sponsorship of Al Nusra (another terrorist group in Syria)

You might remember that these terrorist organisations were defeated recently in the
battle for Aleppo.... by a mixed bag of Hezbollah, Syrian troops, Russians, Iraqis & Iranians.

Clearly, the UN, who's job it is to prevent war... is completely ineffective.
Given that it's most heavily armed member, the USA, starts most of the wars.

Maybe we should give the job of peacekeeping to the Russians;
they are apparently very effective.

Gillian
12th January 2017, 21:46
My problem is I don't believe the UN Chief. Maybe he is paying lip service to a popular idea or maybe he is trying to look good. I wonder if he really believes that the UN should do a better job of preventing wars. Sorry to be skeptical. Time and the behaviour of the UN will tell ...

Bubu
12th January 2017, 22:44
we will know that he is sincere if he is kick out of his job soon.

BMJ
13th January 2017, 02:10
Max Egan is spot on.

Now the UN is trying to save face because "The Don" has said the USA will no longer be paying for wars. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Now it's "pay to play" if you want to go to war UN, you can pay for it because no more will the USA foot the bill. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Tptw are struggling financially, as Trump and Putin may join forces and end the perpetual war on terror miltary industrial complex profiteering scam. FAILED.

The F-35 fighter jet program has been outed as another scam. FAILED.

So now we have the build up of US troops in europe because that big bad russian bear is back to take over europe and the world. Even though Putin has stated at least twice he will not go to war with the USA.

(Hopefully "The Don" will send all the troops back home, so they can spend more time with their families)

What does that mean, it is that old chestnut "the cold war" being pulled out of the hat, because tptw have to make money some how.
Now tptw want a Cold War 2.0, maybe we can also have Tom Cruise reprise his roll in "Top Gun Against the Reds" to save the world again from the russian bear, another scam. WILL FAIL.

Justplain
13th January 2017, 03:50
Max Egan is spot on.

Now the UN is trying to save face because "The Don" has said the USA will no longer be paying for wars. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Now it's "pay to play" if you want to go to war UN, you can pay for it because no more will the USA foot the bill. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Tptw are struggling financially, as Trump and Putin may join forces and end the perpetual war on terror miltary industrial complex profiteering scam. FAILED.

The F-35 fighter jet programming has been outed as another scam. FAILED.

So now we have the build up of US troops in europe because that big bad russian bear is back to take over europe and the world. Even though Putin has stated at least twice he will not go to war with the USA.

(Hopefully "The Don" will send all the troops back home, so they can spend more time with their families)

What does that mean, it is that old chestnut the cold war being pulled out of the hat, because tptw have to make money some how.
Now we have a Cold War 2.0, maybe we can also have Tom Cruise reprise his roll in "Top Gun Against the Reds" to save the world again from the russian bear. WILL FAIL.

Hi BMJ, if you think that 'the donald' will be upsetting tptb, look at this thread on his appointments to see that's a fallacy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95413-Trump-s-Appointments-Tell-a-Tale

shaberon
13th January 2017, 04:27
So many people chimed in, I don't think I could have stayed awake for the session:

https://www.un.org/press/en/2017/sc12673.doc.htm

Out of all the things said, it is perhaps noteworthy that Israel, in the very first sentence, mentions facing hate every day.

They sure have been pretty complacent about the Saudi thing. A word search does not even find Saudi on that whole gigantic page.

BMJ
13th January 2017, 06:33
Max Egan is spot on.

Now the UN is trying to save face because "The Don" has said the USA will no longer be paying for wars. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Now it's "pay to play" if you want to go to war UN, you can pay for it because no more will the USA foot the bill. FANTASTIC NEWS.

Tptw are struggling financially, as Trump and Putin may join forces and end the perpetual war on terror miltary industrial complex profiteering scam. FAILED.

The F-35 fighter jet programming has been outed as another scam. FAILED.

So now we have the build up of US troops in europe because that big bad russian bear is back to take over europe and the world. Even though Putin has stated at least twice he will not go to war with the USA.

(Hopefully "The Don" will send all the troops back home, so they can spend more time with their families)

What does that mean, it is that old chestnut the cold war being pulled out of the hat, because tptw have to make money some how.
Now we have a Cold War 2.0, maybe we can also have Tom Cruise reprise his roll in "Top Gun Against the Reds" to save the world again from the russian bear. WILL FAIL.

Hi BMJ, if you think that 'the donald' will be upsetting tptb, look at this thread on his appointments to see that's a fallacy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95413-Trump-s-Appointments-Tell-a-Tale

I took a look, point taken Justplain and I might have to eat my words down the track. But for the moment the proof is in the pudding look at all the positives before he has even taken office.

Bob
13th January 2017, 06:42
Prevent wars... (sigh)

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in history. It's purpose is to destroy the United States."
- John E. Rankin
a U.S. Congressman
"The age of nations must end. The governments of nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they will surrender their arms."
- U.N. World Constitution


A front to institute the NWO ---- gees..

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_un04.htm

stop wars, i just can't wrap my head around that..

shaberon
13th January 2017, 07:53
"The age of nations must end. The governments of nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they will surrender their arms."
- U.N. World Constitution


Which Article of the Charter of the United Nations says this?

Bob
13th January 2017, 17:14
The reference was from the website listed in the link. I don't know where they got the quote from.

Looking on a google search - 32. James Crawford, THE CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS AS A CONSTITUTION, in Hazel Fox (ed.), The Changing Constitution of the United Nations, (London: British Institute of International and Comparative Law, 1977 appears to reference how the "Charter" appears to be interpreted as a "Constitution".

In this archived link: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jVm8Chi7yhwJ:https://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/82d07020-9e27-4180-af23-bf3282f8c6bb/The-Charter-of-the-United-Nations-as-a-World-Const.aspx+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us it's titled as "Charter of the United Nations as a World Constitution" as written up which looks like an interpretation - Ronald St. J. Macdonald is the author - the dissertation appears to be based on "interpretations" and his experience in US Naval War College

A book - Ruling the World?: Constitutionalism, International Law, and Global Governance edited by Jeffrey L. Dunoff, Joel P. Trachtman - this book gets into interpretations also, is the charter a "treaty" or a constitution and how should it be interpreted.

From http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=FinalWarning&C=8.1, using the keyword name "John E. Rankin (D-MS, 1921-53)" gets into "one world government" propositions and who was backing such historically.

An article in the Christian Science Monitor - http://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0815/081596.opin.letters.1.html

US policy, "State Department Document #7277," was presented to the UN General Assembly by President John F. Kennedy on Sept. 25, 1961.

It sets forth three stages of disarmament that culminate in what the document states: "Progressive control disarmament ... would proceed to the point where no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened UN Peace Force."

From - http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/history_nwo/history_nwo08.htm contains a lot of different references on NWO movements..


A State Department document, #7277, called Freedom From War: The United States’ Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World, revealed a plan to disarm the U.S. military, shut down bases, and to give the UN control of our Armed Forces, and nuclear weapons.

The UN military arm would then be the world’s police force to act as “peacekeepers.” The document, which on September 1, 1961, was sent by courier to the UN Secretary General, suggested a “progressive reduction of the war-making capability of the nations and the simultaneous strengthening of international institutions to settle disputes and maintain the peace...”

It was to be done through a three-step program:

“The first stage would significantly reduce the capabilities of nations to wage war by reducing the armed forced of the nations ... nuclear capabilities would be reduced by treaties ... and UN peace-keeping powers would be strengthened ... The second stage would provide further substantial reductions in the armed forces and the establishment of a permanent international peace force within the United Nations ... The third stage would have the nations retaining only those forces required for maintaining internal order, but the United States would provide manpower for the United Nations Peace Force.”

The plan called for “all weapons of mass destruction” to be eliminated, except for “those required for a United Nations Peace Force” (page 12, 1st paragraph); and (on page 16, 8th paragraph) to “keep the peace, all states will reaffirm their obligations under the UN Charter to refrain from the threat of use of any type armed force.”

I’m sure that this includes the disarming of American citizens. Sarah Brady, one of the leading proponents in this country against handguns, said: “Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”

Sen. Joseph S. Clark of Pennsylvania said during a March 1, 1962 debate on the Senate floor, that the program is “the fixed, determined, and approved policy of the government of the United States.”

The Program was later revised in The Blueprint for the Peace Race, which said on page 33: “...the Parties to the Treaty would progressively strengthen the United Nations Police Force ... until it had sufficient armed forces and armaments so that no state could challenge it.” The Program was again revised by the present Outline of Basic Provisions of a Treaty on General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World.

Finding where they got their "statement" may be difficult unless one has the same source material they used.