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Carmody
18th December 2010, 18:33
http://www.townsendletter.com/May2010/earthing0510.html


Earthing's Fascinating Discovery
Throughout the history of civilization, cultures around the world honored connectedness to the Earth and described the energy of the Earth in different ways. Some may be familiar to you, such as Earth Qi in Traditional Chinese Medicine and Prana in Ayurveda.

Until now, however, the distinct health benefits of this energy have remained largely unknown. Thanks to the curiosity and persistence of Clint Ober, a pioneer of the cable TV industry, the benefits are surfacing. At one point, Ober headed the largest cable TV installation company in the US. In 1993, at the age of 49, at the height of success, he became deathly ill – the result of an abscess that nearly destroyed his liver. Ober recovered from the ordeal and decided to shed his possessions and look for a higher purpose in life. He traveled throughout the US for four years in an RV, looking for, as he put it, "my mission." He found it one day in Sedona, Arizona, on a park bench, while watching the passing tourist parade. He became aware that almost everybody wore synthetic soled shoes. He wondered if such footwear, which had increasingly replaced leather since the 1960s, could have an effect on health.

It occurred to him rather innocently that he and most everyone else around him were insulated from the electrical surface charge of the Earth. His thoughts went back to his years in television and cable. Before cable, you may remember, TV images were commonly afflicted with flecks, "snow," or disturbing lines from electromagnetic interference. In the cable industry, systems in every home are grounded and shielded to prevent outside signals and fields from interfering with the transmission carried through the cable. The cable consists of an inner copper conductor, an insulating layer, and an outer shield. The shield is electrically connected to the Earth – to a ground rod. This is the principle of grounding – connecting electrical systems in homes, buildings, and industry to the Earth's energy field in order to provide electrical stability and protect them from errant electrical charges.

Could this energy field also protect the body from ubiquitous environmental electrical charges (EMFs) thought by many to be an insidious health hazard? Could it provide stability to the body? These were questions that Ober raised. He knew that the body is conductive; that is, it conducts electricity. So he performed a simple experiment on himself. He rigged up a crude conductive grid to fit on his bed. He took an alligator clip and attached it to the grid, connected a wire to it, ran the wire out the window, and fastened it to a ground rod outside. He then lay down on the grid and measured the voltage on his body. He found that when he was "grounded," the EMFs on his body had disappeared. The voltage of his body was near zero, the same as the voltage, or potential in electrical terms, as the surface of the Earth. The next thing Ober knew, it was morning. He had fallen asleep and slept soundly for the first time in years – and without a pill. This was a big deal for him. He suffered with constant back pain and disturbed sleep. He took painkillers to sleep at night and again in the morning to get through the day.

He repeated the experiment every night for a week. Same results. Moreover, he noticed that his pain had decreased significantly. He then decided to tell some friends about his little experiment. They asked if he would make them a grid for their beds. He did. They had similar results: better sleep and less pain.

Ober contacted university sleep researchers looking for an explanation. Nobody knew anything about this. Nobody was interested. So he decided to find out himself. Armed with tips he received from friendly undergraduate research students, he set off, a nonscientist, on a scientific odyssey. Twelve years later, he is still at it. He has inspired and brilliantly organized a dozen studies with scientific experts that have thoroughly validated his initial personal observations of better sleep and reduced pain. They clearly show that Earthing has a powerful influence on the delicate balance between health and illness, and the prospect of living longer and better. During this time, he continually developed and refined indoor Earthing systems for use in studies and to make available to interested individuals. He found that after someone experiences less pain and better sleep from sleeping grounded, they want all their relatives and friends to experience the same thing.


Blood cells without grounding on the left, with grounding on the right. This does not surprise me.
http://www.townsendletter.com/May2010/BloodViscosityimages.jpg


I'm working with a friend who suffers from blood clots. They ride bicycles at the competitive racing level. When one is at that level, issues of asthma and associated issues arise quite often. As well, the severe body stressing of racing that hard...changes the pH (which is an electrochemical descriptor!!!) stability aspects of blood. Blood MUST be at a level of a neutral pH, which is 7.0, and a deviation of 0.05 ph (IIRC, from memory here) is enough to kill you. Chemical exchanges in the blood can only occur freely (correctly and well) in a neutral and balanced system. (Stop drinking pots of coffee, as the calcium to correct the blood and body balance to neutral comes straight out of your body's reserves).

This friend was also one of the original guinea pigs for a national and national government level set of experiments aimed at coming up with undetectable and legal (not known to be against the given sport rules and regs) techniques for blood doping in extreme body stress sports. In this case, Olympic and Tour De France levels of bicycle racing. What they found was that they could consume about 5 grams (I can't remember the exact amount) of calcium (basically tums) every 15 (approx) minutes for 45 minutes before a race. This meant that the body was super saturated with alkaline buffers, ie, calcium. Then, when immediately thereafter racing at brutal intensities, the limit was no longer the body's ability to shed the lactic acid build up, but the heart's ability to pump blood without exploding. The lactic acid buildup issue virtually disappears. But, this might be seen as highly dangerous. It's an actual stressing of the body between two extremes of pH. so I do have a bit of evidence to back these suppositions up. This information and technique was developed in the mid 70's, that's how long this knowledge has been around.

As far as my friend goes, he has a prior injury that will not seal off, ie a bone split that never heals that is seeping blood and associated fluids out the marrow and bone core, when he stresses himself when riding really really hard. The bone will NEVER heal. However, the combination of the bone split/fracture seepage combined with his overt stressing of his blood pH while training so hard that he's whacked on endorphins during the runs (his whole reason for doing it, not uncommon) is seemingly the origins of his blood clots, as a combined and created mechanism. I know that this conclusion of mine, combined with this grounding information seems to be coming up as being supported and cross-supported by the data, etc. I also work casually in the design of complex solutions of multiple ingredients, with regard to particle dispersion/separation. I am also supported in my knowledge base about how proper alchemical techniques actually function. All the same thing in this case. ph levels are vitally important. I could go on for an entire book, here.

In essence a combination of electrical grounding, low exposure to complex electrical fields, balanced acid/alkaline eating (according to your blood type),and no uneven and/or overt body stressing such as extreme exercise/competitive sport regimens. Meaning, no sport or exercise regimens that tax the body to near death, like marathon runs, etc. There's being healthy ....and then there's killing yourself.

All this leads to electrical fields, AC fields, Astrology, Electrified or doped chemical consumption, ie oxygenated water, crystals, magnetism, etc, etc. Straight into the whole pyramid/charge etc stuff of the dimensional and astral lore. DNA being superconductive (superconductivity automatically infers and indicates extreme sensitivity to micro levels of electrical charge and charge change) etc, etc.

conk
20th December 2010, 19:41
I have been sleeping grounded for about 4 months. No noticible change yet. I'm wondering if the special sheet (silver threads) isn't grounded properly through the wall outlet. interference in the circuit maybe? I'm going to plant a 9 foot copper rod in the ground this weekend and run a decent guage wire to the sheet, and forego the wall outlet ground. That way I'll know I have true ground.

Zillah
20th December 2010, 20:33
Wonderful research, thank you for this post! It was refreshing to see those case study photos, which one cannot argue.

I find myself lost if I dont work with grounding energies, even if this simply means going outside and putting my feet in the grass - taking in the Earth's energetic frequencies. During the freezing winter (now) - because I spend most of my time inside, there is a noticeable difference in my wellbeing. The furnace is running, the computers are on more, and because it gets darker faster there are more artificial lights on (rather than soaking in natural light). During the cold season I try to utilize devices that will help combat harmful EMF since I am around them more, and for longer (himalayan salt lamps, orgone devices, etc) and I keep grounding stones and crystals around me, in my pocket, or just hang on to one when Im feeling some discomfort. Dietary wise, I try to eat more Alkaline foods, and I drink more Terramin Clay (http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/clay2.htm) (or treat myself to clay masks/baths), where afterwards you will undoubtedly feel both steady and refreshed.

This has been the first season where I am utilizing all that I mention simultaneously, and it has made such a tremendous difference in my life, its going to be one of the easier winters I have to go through.

Happy grounding all <3

jeannacav
20th December 2010, 20:36
Interesting thread, carmody,

See what you can find about Red root. Ceanothus americanum

It does something remarkable in the bloodstream and to the blood cells.
In that darkfield microscope, the cells unclump within minutes.
I would never be without my little bottle of red root.

I do not sleep well at home yet I sleep really well in my camper which does have 2 iron legs a levelers.
I thought the better sleep was from the quiet as in sound, but, perhaps there is an electrical quiet that I should include in my conclusions!

[Conk, please keep us informed.]

Thanks,

jeanna

Carmody
20th December 2010, 20:49
I have been sleeping grounded for about 4 months. No noticible change yet. I'm wondering if the special sheet (silver threads) isn't grounded properly through the wall outlet. interference in the circuit maybe? I'm going to plant a 9 foot copper rod in the ground this weekend and run a decent guage wire to the sheet, and forego the wall outlet ground. That way I'll know I have true ground.


Copper rod is the way to go. the ground in the wall is very polluted. Polluted with all the junk in the AC lines. The two are too closely coupled. The micro-disturbances in the ground inthe wall socket are detrimental. Less detrimental than the lack of grounding, we hope.

The bigger problem occurs in dry or winter indoor and outdoor climates, when the relative ambient humidity drops below about 37%, or thereabouts. That is when we get into static charge building over that of charge dissipation.

This is known to some of us as an effect of feeling pretty bad when things dry out like that.

I have a lit-up salt rock that emits ions to neutralize the charge build effects....and a $3k ionizer/filter that I found a junk store for $40. http://www.cleanairkings.com/saviair5000.htm

norman
20th December 2010, 21:32
I'll agree about making sure you have a proper grounding rod independent from the mains supply 'earth'.

My house might be considered primitive by modern standards because it doesn't have a damp course membrane. I have to let my house 'breath' or it will accumulate a lot of moisture. The ground floor is solid with a combination of old stone flags and some concrete. Even when I'm indoors my feet are connected to earth ( usually ). I try to have only natural fibre carpets, though they are very hard to get hold of.

However, I DO generate a lot of electromagnetic noise in my house with computers, audio equipment and low energy light bulbs.

Czarek
21st December 2010, 01:57
the ground in the wall is very polluted. Polluted with all the junk in the AC lines. The two are too closely coupled. The micro-disturbances in the ground inthe wall socket are detrimental. Less detrimental than the lack of grounding, we hope.

Are you sure about that? Any links/references to support that? Have you tested any home DC outlets with a scope? I would agree if we were dealing with DC. example: a ground (chasis) of an isolated system like an automobile.

Have a peak at David Wolfe's web site. He utilizes ground from the outlets. If I were to utilize ground outlet I would still put an inlinea fuse . I'm not sure if his products do.

Carmody
21st December 2010, 02:47
(one of) My area(s) of expertise is the molecular aspects of electrical function. So, I do tend to know a bit about the grounding considerations. One may be grounding to the wall socket, but at the distance away from true ground one is at that point..combined with the RF and other low level spuriae that can still reside on such a line..I'm not really sure it's the best bet. A true ground spike may be best. Something that needs be looked at through a bit of empirical oriented experimentation and musing of the given personal results.

str8thinker
21st December 2010, 07:31
Remember to disconnect before the possibility of a lightning strike nearby...:eek:

wolf_rt
2nd January 2012, 04:56
I just grounded my bed after thinking about the 'vortex' shape of the bed springs freaked me out enough. I am also trying to get into the astral, and i realised that both times i have been successful i was napping on the couch.

i just cut a slit in the mattress material, and soldered a wire onto the steel structure inside, i probably should check the connection between the piece i soldered onto and the rest of the springs, as the metal was covered with lacquer to prevent rust.

ran the wire under the house to a piece of copper pipe i hammered into the ground about 4ft... deeper would be better, but i'll see how it goes (i'll water the ground spike before bed for a few days to ensure good earthing)

certainly can't do any harm.

i seriously considered using the house power earth, but it just didn't seem right.

Dawn
2nd January 2012, 06:00
Posted by Carmody (here)
the ground in the wall is very polluted. Polluted with all the junk in the AC lines. The two are too closely coupled. The micro-disturbances in the ground inthe wall socket are detrimental. Less detrimental than the lack of grounding, we hope.
Czarek: Are you sure about that? Any links/references to support that? Have you tested any home DC outlets with a scope? I would agree if we were dealing with DC. example: a ground (chasis) of an isolated system like an automobile.

I learned about this the hard way... The really really hard way. I lived in a lovely home right up against a 5,000 acre natural woodland park for 17 years. While there I developed severe radio sickness. I did not understand my illness until I was invited to attend a lecture at Stanford University by Dr Grahm and Mike Stetzer. They had just finished a study on cancer clusters on the east coast and had come up with some startling information. What they discovered is that the electrical grids in the USA were built before modern electronics. They were not capable of handling the EFTs generated by modern computers, refrigerators, TVs and so on. As electricity ran through these devices they generated electrical frequencies different from those supplied by the electric company. These frequencies built up in the lines as electricity ran through electronics in house after house. These were found to cause serious disease in humans and pastured cows.

Further study showed that the EFTs that had built up in the lines were too much to return to the power company via the original return wire designed into the systems in the days when simple appliances and light bulbs were the main users. The overload was grounded from each electrical pole through a rod in the ground. And from there the dirty electricity EFTs ran through the soil back to the power plant which generated them. An illegal but cost effective way to handle modern electrical needs.

Welcome to the new modern era of poisonous EFTs in the electrical wires, in our homes, and in the ground under our feet. Any testing done with a Grahm Stetzer filter needs to show EFT presence of less than 50 units or cancer, MS, Parkinsons, and a whole host of awful diseases would begin to show up. My lovely home tested at 975! Here is a connection to a website which has quite a bit of foundation information on this topic as well as links to studies about this issue: http://www.dirtyelectricity.ca/stetzer_filters.htm

Let me tell a bit about radio sickness here, because it isn't discussed much and people need to be aware of it. This is the result of the body being bombarded with radio and other electrical frequencies to the point that an autoimmune response develops to these. In a world where wireless phones, cell phones, wireless routers, TV signals, microwave signals, and on and on are all around us, radio sickness is a terribly debilitating disease. In my case, I had chronic headaches, chronic fatigue, pain everywhere, and chronic flue like symptoms. If I worked on a computer for more than 30 minutes, the mother board would blow... as my hypersensitive body went into attack mode.

I was able to correct the EMF situation in that home, and others I've lived in since, with filters made by the StetzerElectric company. They remove the EMFs traveling in the electrical wiring of your home. In addition I've helped many people who did not realize that the reason for their sickness, was toxic EMF saturation in their homes and/or offices.

I wanted to ground my bed at the time, and bought a special bed set up to try. But, I was not able to ground my bed at that home... because we were at the very end of the power lines... which meant the power company was using the ground under our home to transmit the dirty electricity back to the power plant. The company selling the 'earthing' beds stopped selling their product, because so many customers wanted to return them. Grounding into the soil at their homes did not provide healthful benefits. I was sitting on toxic soil at my home.

I've moved a couple of times since then, and I no longer suffer from radio sickness to an extreme degree. Last month I bought a grounding pad for my bed and it has been a wonderful thing. It is connected to a copper rod pounded 8' into the ground outside.... but the soil here does not carry EMFs to the degree of the home I described so the grounding rod works really well. All the benefits discussed have come true for me with this bed pad. No longer do I have stuffy sinuses in the morning or aching finger joints. The night time grounding is effective.

There are commercial grounding desk pads available for day time use, however mine is home made. When at my desk I have my feet on a polished granite slab which is grounded. Here's how the desk grounding stone was created
(1) Copper tape was applied to the front edge of a granite counter top remnant
(2) A copper grounding rod was pounded into the ground outside the walls
(3) A wire runs from the grounding pipe, through a tiny hole in the wall to the copper tape on the stone
(4) Finally an electric heating pad lies under the stone so that it is always warm for my feet.

There is a site called http://lessemf.com/ They sell quite a few things to help with grounding including a special conductive rubber strap you can wear on the outside of your insulated shoes which grounds your body while you are out and about.

Thanks for the thread Carmody. Important topic.

TraineeHuman
2nd January 2012, 06:34
Here in Sydney you can buy various kinds of anti-EMF devices. I assume you can buy them everywhere. Also, some of the ones available in Sydney are made by a local resident who apparently has developed ones that work more effectively, or so he claims.

It feels great to have one or two of them near either side of the foot of your bed. I’m sure they ground the energies in my bedroom.

They also negate the effects of my battery-driven alarm clock. If you measure the electromagnetic field strength around even a battery-driven alarm clock (let alone a quartz one, or a mobile phone), it’s too strong for a radius of nine feet. But if you dowse (e.g. with a divining rod), you get a strong reading that it’s bad for the health to a radius of eleven feet – unless neutralized by an anti-EMF device.

wolf_rt
2nd January 2012, 06:51
Thanks dawn, interesting stuff... i live in the center of a medium size town, so i imagine the 'ground' is quite active... it seems like there should be a simple solution to this problem (at least as far as grounding a bed)...

perhaps 2 earth spikes inserted at a distance from each other and connected at the top would help to minimize any potential the 'ground' may have?

i have a bit of electronics experience, but at a bit of a loss here...

does anybody know if the charge that people develop is positive or negative or either?

if it is positive (i believe it is) then surely a simple diode in the ground wire would be beneficial?

if it can be either, then a more complex circuit would be called for...

can anybody suggest a filter circuit to connect into the (bed only) ground wire, to reduce the effect of ground charge?

i can build any simple (or even quite complex) circuit suggested, but have no cash for expensive commercial devices.

wolf_rt
2nd January 2012, 06:59
TraineeHuman, do you have any way to contact this person? if he actually cares, he may be willing to give me a schematic of his device?

wolf_rt
2nd January 2012, 21:07
Well... Had a really crappy nights sleep... My partner 'thought perhaps she slept better? but felt a little tingly when she went to bed?'... So i'll do a few experiments today, and see what i can find out with a multimeter...

christian
2nd January 2012, 21:57
So, boiling it down:

A conductive grid on the bed connected to the ground outside via a copper wire, is that it?

What would you suggest as a comfortable simple built conductive grid there?

wolf_rt
2nd January 2012, 22:28
I don't see why the springs in the bed shouldn't be used?

TraineeHuman
2nd January 2012, 23:08
TraineeHuman, do you have any way to contact this person? if he actually cares, he may be willing to give me a schematic of his device?

wolf_rt, one person who sells the device in Sydney is Kent at the Tian-He Healing Arts Centre in Crows Nest.
Phone number (+612) 81971662, email address tianhe@gmail.com

There was a copy of the schematic available when I bought several of the devices from Kent, though I know the inventor is continuing to make improvements.

Based on what I can feel of the strength of the field, I find these devices seem to me to have a strong shielding effect which makes them good value in comparison to other similar products I have seen.

wolf_rt
3rd January 2012, 06:08
Well, i just broke the multimeter out....OUCH!

i attached a 1sq ft piece of aluminium foil to each electrode, placed 1 under the pillow and 1 in the center of the bed.

with the bed earthed i recorded up to 0.2V AC when i cut the earth wire it fell to 0.06V AC... the same as the floor...Damn!

Very lucky that Dawn posted her experience, or i might not have checked.

As i slept so poorly last night, i went for a nap this morning, and noticed that when i woke, i was wide awake STRAIGHT AWAY.. not normal for me.

defiantly check for this if you decide to ground your bed!!!!

leavesoftrees
3rd January 2012, 07:16
They also negate the effects of my battery-driven alarm clock. If you measure the electromagnetic field strength around even a battery-driven alarm clock (let alone a quartz one, or a mobile phone), it’s too strong for a radius of nine feet. But if you dowse (e.g. with a divining rod), you get a strong reading that it’s bad for the health to a radius of eleven feet – unless neutralized by an anti-EMF device.

Thanks TH I had heard that it is best to have no electrical clocks , appliances etc in your bedroom while sleeping. Had not realized that this also applies to clocks. Guess I'll have to rely on my own internal clock.

How do anti-EMF devices work?

annacherie
3rd January 2012, 15:56
Thanks for the link to the clay Zillah! Grounding is an issue near and dear (pun intended!) to my heart having been challenged with a parkinson condition. I have an "earthpulse device" which works really well...really well as it creates a fluctuating bath of frequencies which encourage alpha-theta states and really helps me sleep well.

conk
3rd January 2012, 21:23
Glad to see this thread pop up again. A reminder for me to take Carmody's advice and use a 9foot copper rod driven deeply into the ground, then run a thick copper wire to my big toe while I sleep. ;) Grounding experiment, round 2:

TargeT
3rd January 2012, 22:22
Glad to see this thread pop up again. A reminder for me to take Carmody's advice and use a 9foot copper rod driven deeply into the ground, then run a thick copper wire to my big toe while I sleep. ;) Grounding experiment, round 2:

when grounding in earth there are several things to keep in mind, one is the water table, and dirt compisition etc... if your area is overly sandy your going to have to go much deeper for a good ground.


& for some reason urinating on a grounding rod works VERY well, especialy in sand (probably due to the extending the "reach" of the grounding rod with liquid)

it almost seems that you are facilitating the conduit... your helping support "as above so below" with this... for that reason alone it seems worth looking into.

wolf_rt
4th January 2012, 04:52
When i went to bed last night i had another go with the multimeter...

Grounded = 0.85V

Ungrounded = 0.15V

Be careful people!

Bo Atkinson
4th January 2012, 15:34
(snips)
The bigger problem occurs in dry or winter indoor and outdoor climates, when the relative ambient humidity drops below about 37%, or thereabouts. That is when we get into static charge building over that of charge dissipation.

This is known to some of us as an effect of feeling pretty bad when things dry out like that.


I think this is the most productive aspect to consider. For people living in cold winter climates. Actually also for people in extremely arid places....

In the days of parlor stoves and cook stoves, a large amount of steam went into the air and some condensed in walls and sills. This moisture increased conductance, (which is same as reducing the electrical insulation between the indoors and earth-ground) ... Just enough electrical conduction to steep the 'grounded' electrical potential into the living spaces. Slightly increased moisture transfers electrical potentials from the ground potential of earth, locally. Today we have so many built-house variations, some of which result in extreme electrical-insulation. (Electrical and heat insulation largely equate in architecture, unless further measures are taken. However, code enforcement is entirely dismissive of such concepts.) Extreme electrical insulation means electrical fields can elevate in potentials and further-polarize local emf, in the air. The drier the air, the less of the emf neutralizes to ground. The moister the air, the more emf dissipates to the ground. In dry air we tend to dehydrate, requiring more hydration, (as by drinking more water). Moderns can also keep house plants, which transpire moisture. For grander effects, add on a greenhouse addition which humidifies the home with tender new oxygen provided by your plants ^__^ Or possibly, more frugally, keep pans of water over radiators or warmer surfaces. (Or, for me, as the least wanted, electric humidifier gadgets.) To say nothing of how much localities can differ according to local industry or urbanization factors. Or just how much electro smog are we living in?

What is clear-- We can take many steps to improve our ambient conditions. I just happen to focus more on moisture-ambiance, more-natural environs (like rural living) and minimized electro-pollution. Moderate humidity will achieve most of the objectives listed, (here above), through a simplistic-elegance.

Peter Kraai
4th January 2012, 16:26
What about something a little more simple ? As I was reading this thread this popped up in my facebook updates lol !
I don't know alot about this subject, but it seems legit o.o
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Selene
4th January 2012, 17:36
One of the simplest and fastest ways to ‘get grounded’ is to – quite literally – get your feet on the ground: spend a few minutes each day walking on the earth, either in bare feet or wearing thin leather soles (which are getting harder to find, though…)

As Dawn has pointed out, some soils may be electromagnetically disturbed. But the odds are good that the soil near you is not particularly damaged.

If you try this simple test, you’ll know within moments if grounding is working for you:

• After a day spent, say, at work or living in a building several stories above the ground or after a few hours in a car or plane, just walk toward any bit of lawn or bare earth.

• Slip discreetly out of your shoes and just stand on the lawn quietly. Notice your breathing – don’t change anything, just observe. See what happens.

• You may notice that you spontaneously begin to take deep, slow “whew...” breaths of letting go. That some unexplained inner tension seems to begin releasing and is replaced by a sense of deep relief, stillness or “smoothness”. If you are very sensitive, you may even feel a certain inexplicable “static” draining out of your body into the ground. Grounding is a quiet sense of restoration, of ‘wow, I needed that….’

• Walk a bit in your bare feet, or just roll your feet and wiggle your toes in place to flex your soles. You’ll know what’s needed. And then exchange those thick-soled ‘athletic’ shoes for thinner ones for everyday walking. Even crossing the parking lot in leather or thin-soled shoes daily can help ground you.

A dear friend of mine had Multiple Sclerosis. He was wheelchair bound and lived in an apartment ten stories up, so his feet quite literally never touched the ground. When he’d come for dinner in summer we’d sit outdoors at our brick (clay!) patio. I’d always make a discreet point of slipping off Jim’s shoes as we settled him into a chair…. Never said anything. But it was remarkable to watch how his tremors would gradually cease as the evening wore on. He resisted my suggestion that he try to get his feet on the ground more often; said it was merely the congenial company that buoyed him up, etc… But I knew better.

Thanks for starting this very useful thread, Carmody.

Cheers,

Selene

Aurvandil
4th January 2012, 17:37
I live in a house with water heating and hot water radiators, the heating system is of course grounded since it is linked to the district heating system. The pipes are made of copper so I could use for grounding, right?
I used to be a very active radio listener in my youth, my main hobby was DX-ing. I always used to link the antenne from the radio to the radiator to get better signal, this must be the same thing.

Sebastion
4th January 2012, 17:51
I would like to introduce something that I've been pondering since Dawn's breatharian thread and the exercise she introduced. Consciousness itself is electrical in nature. Let us say it's spiritual in nature and therefore "positive". Now if one considers that the earth's energies are "negative ground" and you are grounded properly, it certainly looks like we have just completed an electrical circuit, have we not? What does that tell you? What might that implicate? I would carefully and in a balanced way, practice that meditation and you will start to find out....

TargeT
4th January 2012, 18:25
I would like to introduce something that I've been pondering since Dawn's breatharian thread and the exercise she introduced. Consciousness itself is electrical in nature. Let us say it's spiritual in nature and therefore "positive". Now if one considers that the earth's energies are "negative ground" and you are grounded properly, it certainly looks like we have just completed an electrical circuit, have we not? What does that tell you? What might that implicate? I would carefully and in a balanced way, practice that meditation and you will start to find out....

we are the conduit through which conciousness flows into this reality; I imagine this is how Mono-atomic gold (an injested Super conductor) becomes benificial & grounding certainly makes sense as well.... Perhaps this also explains why magnets seem to be able to effect us physiologicaly.

Sebastion
4th January 2012, 20:18
I have reason to believe that this information is incredibly important. If Dawn used it and ultimately enjoyed becoming a breatharian for a time, what else is possible? Do not the Chi-gung practitioners seem to perform incredible feats by pulling energy from the earth? Once you consciously know what your doing energy wise, what if you qualify the energy as "healing" energy for instance? Bears pondering it does....

Dawn
4th January 2012, 22:00
wolf_RT: When i went to bed last night i had another go with the multimeter...

Grounded = 0.85V

Ungrounded = 0.15V

Be careful people!

My partner is very knowledgeable re this subject. Here is some information for you.
1) Any time you connect 2 dissimilar metals you get an electric charge
2) There is varnish on the bed springs and you need to sand it off for a good connection
3) Sleeping on your grounded bed will never the less be of benefit for you*
(*unless you have a situation such as I described in post #11 on this thread, in which case your meter would be a LOT HIGHER. Therefore I don't think this is the case with you.)

That is how we used to ground our mattress until we bought our current commercial grounding pad. It worked somewhat, however the padding on top of the springs interfered with the full effect of earth contact we have now with the pad.
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I just re-read all your threads and realized you have already tried to sleep on the mattress grounded this way. Being in the middle of a town does not necessarily mean you have EMFs in the soil under your house. The electricity grounded by the electric companies flows in invisible river channels that are rather narrow. If you are not on one of those 'rivers', you are OK. If you ARE on one, then I'd advise you to move right away. I became quite ill after living in the house-on-an-emf-river for 17 years. It took about 2 years to be able to feel even remotely normal again. However that house tested 975 on a Stetzer meter in all the electrical outlets as well. The farther from the electrical plant you are, the dirtier the electricity coming into your house is. (dirty as in anti-life electrical frequencies riding the wires)
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I've tried the grounding devices for shoes I described in post #11 for the last 3 days and I can report they make a definite difference in my body. My feet and legs often 'pulse' or 'throb' off and on (not in a painful way) while wearing it. From my Somatic Experiencing Training, I know that this means the body's nervous system is releasing charge... a very good thing! Grounding... the key to a happy body!

norman
4th January 2012, 23:13
EMT's generated by "tronics" are not that hard to remove from power lines. With such easy access to both ends of the potential a capacitor or an array of capacitors can be put directly between the lines. An array is better because you can filter the incoming and outgoing separately, also areas of the house.

Capacitance can be our friend. Inductance, environmentally, is the sharp shooter that can take us with a single shot - very dangerous.


Dawn said.... Further study showed that the EFTs that had built up in the lines were too much to return to the power company via the original return wire designed into the systems in the days when simple appliances and light bulbs were the main users. The overload was grounded from each electrical pole through a rod in the ground.

Power AC is 5o or 6o Hz. That frequency is quite probably a health hazard as it is. There's no way to get rid of that without living without AC electrical power. The injected high frequency shapes ( of very complex harmonic elements ) can be attenuated with capacitance if they are higher than a few octaves above the base frequency without noticeably losing any power efficiency.

Resonant elements in the circuit are the danger. They can amplify peaks way out into the danger zone quite unexpectedly. They are very hard to predict and keep track of. Only a regular check with test scopes during the development of technological gadgetry can keep your feelers on the situation.

Resonances and impedances are crucial to all of this.

I've got no idea what exactly a lightening strike really contains, in terms of frequency and harmonic elements. I used to think of it as a simple DC sort of thing but I've come to think that it's more light white noise. If it IS like white noise, that opens up all sorts of resonant/impedance issues.

The Earth itself is a capacitor. It's the reason why we see it as 'the end of the line' - it's SO BIG, we deceive ourselves. In reality, it's not the end of the line. Electrically, it's only a capacitor. With suitably matched resistors and inductors, it could itself produce amplified waveforms of energy. It surely does, we just don't understand it well enough yet.

Being "EARTHED" really means we are 'nailed' to one end of a massive potential difference. I can imagine a good reason for that, in theory. However, we DO need to remember that our environment can produce even more massive, inductance produced, crushing or burning, or whatever peaks of oscillating energy.

That would make being "earthed" a very good seat to sit in to watch ( and feel ) the cosmic ride. Being unearthed might leave us drifting in limbo experiencing all the turbulence and none of the "signal"!